The importance I got from the Bonasera story in the book was that the legal system would not protect the newly arriving Italians. The mafia used these situations to show the neighborhood that they were the true justice system.
I agree, but the system was also about who had the money to put into the 'system', Vito had authorities on the payroll, if Bonasera had come to Vito first, the punks would have been dealt with possibly both physically and legally, but Bonasera chose the legal system first, fearing Vito and believing the system would work fairly.
@@Frank_Nemo Actually, the field of plastic surgery made some real strides during World War II. Sir Harold Gillies, and his cousin, Sir Archibald McIndoe did some amazing work on wounded soldiers and burned airmen. I do see what you did there, by the way. Bakelite surgery. LOL!
Clemenza sent responsible people that wouldn't get carried away. After all the Corleone's were not murderers, in spite of what this undertaker thought.
They were beaten within an inch of their lives in the book. I always hated that they didnt show at least part of the creeps' getting their just deserts in the movie.
A major reason that Bonasera did not want to be in the Don’s debt was that he was an undertaker. He was afraid that he might be forced to dispose of bodies.
but he allowed Vito's wife to be the godmother to his daughter. he was rude not to invite the Corleones to his house he did not want to be Vitos friend.
@@justynmatlock8873 The Don was very old-fashioned. He believed that one should not interfere with another man’s family unless invited. That was also the reason that he did nothing to protect his daughter from her husband.
This episode was continuing the tradition in Italy which had led to the original founding of the Italian Mafia -- people needed justice they could not get from the government.
I think ma fia is Italian for “my daughter”. There is a legend that the mafia started when a woman ran down a street crying, “Ma fia” , my daughter, after her daughter was attacked, seeking justice
In sicily they prefer to call "la cosa nostra". Or "This thing of ours". Mafia is an etymology dates back since medieval era when sicily was ruled by islamic caliphate: - maʿafī (معفي): exempted. In Islamic law, jizya is the yearly tax imposed on non-Muslims residing in Muslim lands. Those who pay it are "exempted" from prosecution. -mahyāṣ (مهياص): aggressive boasting, bragging -marfūḍ (مرفوض): rejected -muʿāfā (معافى): safety, protection -Maʿāfir (معافر): the name of an Arab tribe that ruled Palermo There is possibility that the words "mafia" is amalgamation of these words. The local sicilian use to describe organized crime because in sicilian dialect back then, "mafia" can means different thing depending on how the noun is used.
👩🏻💻🇺🇲 What I thought was interesting is that Bonasera wanted these boys k¡lled and how the Godfather meted our justice. But Vito told the undertaker that "I am not a murd€rer, your daughter still lives. You come to me "on my daughter's wedding day and ask me to do murd€r" I don't know the last time you invited me over for a cup coffee." Infering there was no friendship to commit what Bonasera wanted. Bonesera had to back down and see reason and said, "Be my friend ... Godfather."
The Corleone family were one of the best sympathetic villains ever portrayed! Bonasera fully deserved to see this justice against the two monsters who took advantage of his daughter. Vito was also correct in agreeing to carry out this justice after the complete failure of the court to carry out justice. However, ultimately the Corleone family are villains.
The way I see it, Bonasera (which translates to "Good Evening") comes across in the book and a deleted scene as something of an ungrateful ingrate. He had shunned and even looked down upon Vito Corleone prior to turning to him when he was desperate for the justice that he so naively thought he would receive in a court of law. Because of how he felt about Vito, it seems a bit disingenuous on Bonasera's part to have even sought him out in order to obtain justice for his daughter. Nevertheless, he did so, received the justice knowing that he might have to repay Vito someday, but then feels dread and regret that he ever sought out the justice in the first place. Had he maintained even a cordial and respectful relationship with Vito prior to what happened to his daughter, he would have known that Vito would never have put him in a position where he would be in peril, especially given how his wife was godmother to Vito's daughter.
He was not an ungrateful ingrate any more than you are a scholar of literature or movies. He chose to put his faith in his adopted country completely and integrate into American society and be law abiding and live a good honest life. What he didn't see was that there is a hierarchy still and some people are more equal than others. He also knew that Vito was a powerful and dangerous man if crossed, so he steered clear of him and avoided any interaction with him to not be drawn into his world. But when the courts betrayed him, he relied on a furtive stratagem based in Italian tradition to get the justice he sought for his daughter, and essentially entered into a Faustian pact, knowing that he would be in Vito's debt from then on. But Vito actually had pity on him and what he went through and accepted his request only asking for friendship and loyalty. Bonasera was not an ungrateful ingrate any more than you are a scholar of literature or movies.
There was a lot of backstory not covered in the movie, it would have been 6 hours or more, lol. Paulie was given the job who chose 2 low level street thugs who were anxious to show their gratitude to the family for giving them a 'living'.
If you count video game logic, Clamenza took a few punks with him, beat the crap out of them, and dumped them in a phony empty open grave. I don't remember the book very well, but how close am I?
Yes, something to that affect. My heart broke for Bonasera at the reception when the cake was bought out. He did pay his debt to them twice, once with Sonny Corleone and of course Don Corleone when they died. He had this look of peace on his face at Don Corleone's funeral.
@@laminage In the book Bonasera was scared as crap when Tom called that his service was now expected, he imagined (as you said) disposing of bodies from the ongoing war. Vito said I do not want to his mother to see him like this, and at the viewing Sonny's casket was open because Bonasera was so skillful in his craft.
read the book and you will know what happened to the two guys that beat the undertaker's daughter...most people are too lazy to read more than a youtube title ...pathetic
The importance I got from the Bonasera story in the book was that the legal system would not protect the newly arriving Italians. The mafia used these situations to show the neighborhood that they were the true justice system.
I agree, but the system was also about who had the money to put into the 'system', Vito had authorities on the payroll, if Bonasera had come to Vito first, the punks would have been dealt with possibly both physically and legally, but Bonasera chose the legal system first, fearing Vito and believing the system would work fairly.
I think that’s something a lot of different groups of migrants experienced through history.
The legal system doesn’t protect working Americans
@@stalwartzero7001Exactly,the so-called "legal system" was prejudiced against Italians and other immigrants
@@stalwartzero7001exactly,the "legal" system was prejudiced against Italians and other immigrants
In the book,Paulie Gatto and two other soldiers beat them so badly they required plastic surgery.
John Bobbitt's wife had a better idea on how to get bodily revenge.
Of course, back in those days it would have been Bakelite surgery.
@@billolsen4360 I always thought Bonasera should have asked that.The Godfather would have found it appropriate.
@@Frank_Nemo Actually, the field of plastic surgery made some real strides during World War II. Sir Harold Gillies, and his cousin, Sir Archibald McIndoe did some amazing work on wounded soldiers and burned airmen. I do see what you did there, by the way. Bakelite surgery. LOL!
One of those guys had their testicles crushed with the brass knuckles. I forgot which one was it.
“I want you to use all your powers and all your skills, I don’t want his mother to see him this way. Look how they massacred my boy…” 😢
If you saw only the movie, you don’t know what happened to them. The book describes in great detail what happened to them.
Clemenza sent responsible people that wouldn't get carried away. After all the Corleone's were not murderers, in spite of what this undertaker thought.
Yeah Don Corleone didn't kill that many people in his hay.
They were beaten within an inch of their lives in the book. I always hated that they didnt show at least part of the creeps' getting their just deserts in the movie.
A major reason that Bonasera did not want to be in the Don’s debt was that he was an undertaker. He was afraid that he might be forced to dispose of bodies.
but he allowed Vito's wife to be the godmother to his daughter. he was rude not to invite the Corleones to his house he did not want to be Vitos friend.
the book goes into that in grisly imagined detail
Or simply get more work?
It was assumed that this might be what The Godfather needed to use him for. It was a huge shock that he was needed for a regular undertaking.
After Bonasera paid his debts to the Don involving Santino, in the movie, he paid one final debt for Don Vito's funeral.
As I understood it, Bonasera didn’t completely fulfill his obligation until the Don himself died and then Bonasera did HIS funeral as well…
If Bonasera's Daughter was Vito's wife's Goddaugher, then surely an attack on her was an attack on the (extended) Corleone family, no ?
She was goddaughter to Don Vito's wife, not him.
@@jamesv.laspino5763
I believe Don Vito's wife and Don Vito are part of the same family ?
@@justynmatlock8873because Don Vito believed in street justice. Eye for an eye tooth for a tooth beating for a beating
@@justynmatlock8873 The Don was very old-fashioned. He believed that one should not interfere with another man’s family unless invited. That was also the reason that he did nothing to protect his daughter from her husband.
@@tlords117
That didn't pan out too well, did it.
I love how The Godfather video game lets you give Bonasera's Daughter justice. Great video and commentary 👍👍
"If by some chance a man like yourself should make enemies then they would become my enemies. And then they would fear you."
You beat the shit out of them in the first godfather video game from the 2000’s. It’s like one of the very first missions.
This episode was continuing the tradition in Italy which had led to the original founding of the Italian Mafia -- people needed justice they could not get from the government.
I think ma fia is Italian for “my daughter”. There is a legend that the mafia started when a woman ran down a street crying, “Ma fia” , my daughter, after her daughter was attacked, seeking justice
In sicily they prefer to call "la cosa nostra". Or "This thing of ours". Mafia is an etymology dates back since medieval era when sicily was ruled by islamic caliphate:
- maʿafī (معفي): exempted. In Islamic law, jizya is the yearly tax imposed on non-Muslims residing in Muslim lands. Those who pay it are "exempted" from prosecution.
-mahyāṣ (مهياص): aggressive boasting, bragging
-marfūḍ (مرفوض): rejected
-muʿāfā (معافى): safety, protection
-Maʿāfir (معافر): the name of an Arab tribe that ruled Palermo
There is possibility that the words "mafia" is amalgamation of these words. The local sicilian use to describe organized crime because in sicilian dialect back then, "mafia" can means different thing depending on how the noun is used.
I have already seen this movie a while back, but decided to buy the novel on a transpacific flight from Japan to Georgia. DEFINITELY WORTH IT!!!
👩🏻💻🇺🇲 What I thought was interesting is that Bonasera wanted these boys k¡lled and how the Godfather meted our justice. But Vito told the undertaker that "I am not a murd€rer, your daughter still lives. You come to me "on my daughter's wedding day and ask me to do murd€r" I don't know the last time you invited me over for a cup coffee." Infering there was no friendship to commit what Bonasera wanted. Bonesera had to back down and see reason and said, "Be my friend ... Godfather."
The Corleone family were one of the best sympathetic villains ever portrayed! Bonasera fully deserved to see this justice against the two monsters who took advantage of his daughter. Vito was also correct in agreeing to carry out this justice after the complete failure of the court to carry out justice. However, ultimately the Corleone family are villains.
Just read the novel. It is explained much better in the book. Puzo was a great action story writer.
Justice Comes in Many Different Forms. Especially when a Corrupt Court System has Failed
There's a lot of broken jaws and broke hearts in the Godfather. 🤔
Michael had special surgery to fix his broken jaw.
The book is always better than the movie, thank you that was interesting
I did read it in the book. Thank you for reminding me if how they pay back their enemies.
The way I see it, Bonasera (which translates to "Good Evening") comes across in the book and a deleted scene as something of an ungrateful ingrate. He had shunned and even looked down upon Vito Corleone prior to turning to him when he was desperate for the justice that he so naively thought he would receive in a court of law. Because of how he felt about Vito, it seems a bit disingenuous on Bonasera's part to have even sought him out in order to obtain justice for his daughter. Nevertheless, he did so, received the justice knowing that he might have to repay Vito someday, but then feels dread and regret that he ever sought out the justice in the first place. Had he maintained even a cordial and respectful relationship with Vito prior to what happened to his daughter, he would have known that Vito would never have put him in a position where he would be in peril, especially given how his wife was godmother to Vito's daughter.
He was not an ungrateful ingrate any more than you are a scholar of literature or movies. He chose to put his faith in his adopted country completely and integrate into American society and be law abiding and live a good honest life. What he didn't see was that there is a hierarchy still and some people are more equal than others. He also knew that Vito was a powerful and dangerous man if crossed, so he steered clear of him and avoided any interaction with him to not be drawn into his world. But when the courts betrayed him, he relied on a furtive stratagem based in Italian tradition to get the justice he sought for his daughter, and essentially entered into a Faustian pact, knowing that he would be in Vito's debt from then on. But Vito actually had pity on him and what he went through and accepted his request only asking for friendship and loyalty. Bonasera was not an ungrateful ingrate any more than you are a scholar of literature or movies.
@Dac54 Ungrateful ingrates are the worst kind of ingrates.
Good afternoon? Maybe?
Read the novel, it explains everything.
Min 1:46
Vengeance was not to be SEEKED????
Vengeance was not to be SOUGHT…
Get it right..
It's actually "Seekaged"
@ 🤨😐😆😂😂🤣🥸.. where did ya learn to sperkity da lingity??
What if they got off because they didn't really believe she fought off a rape, but was discarded with violence after being used by drug fiends?
I seem to recall a deleted scene of the beating.
You recall it incorrectly I'm afraid
@finncullen
¿So I'm a jerk?
@@finncullen he’s right and you are wrong there is a deleted scene I’ve seen it
There is a deleted scene can’t believe only us 2 seems to know
I believe it happened because it was in the book and not the movie.
There was a lot of backstory not covered in the movie, it would have been 6 hours or more, lol. Paulie was given the job who chose 2 low level street thugs who were anxious to show their gratitude to the family for giving them a 'living'.
I did not know it was a true story.
If you count video game logic, Clamenza took a few punks with him, beat the crap out of them, and dumped them in a phony empty open grave. I don't remember the book very well, but how close am I?
Yes, something to that affect. My heart broke for Bonasera at the reception when the cake was bought out. He did pay his debt to them twice, once with Sonny Corleone and of course Don Corleone when they died. He had this look of peace on his face at Don Corleone's funeral.
@@laminage In the book Bonasera was scared as crap when Tom called that his service was now expected, he imagined (as you said) disposing of bodies from the ongoing war. Vito said I do not want to his mother to see him like this, and at the viewing Sonny's casket was open because Bonasera was so skillful in his craft.
The book said both were sent to the hospital.
It's in deleted scenes so why is this a video??!
It's wuz understood that Vito delivered on his promised so no reason to mention it again...
I remember reading about that incident in the book
The same situation is made in opening scene of movie Sarkar of Abhitab Bacchan.
Anyone who played the PS2 game, we know what happened 😂
Uh Suspended-uh Sen-tins!
Paulie sipped his bear?
It’s fiction.😊
This is an entire scenario dug deep from m the Book??
STARTS 5:13
There are graphics to the story that have nothing to do with the story.
read the book and find out
Read the book
Wrong accent. Amerigo is not like America,but the accent falls on the "i" instead, unlike America where it falls on "e"
They started RUclips channels.
the undertaker is not named buona sera, buona sera means good evening.
the undertakers name actually is Amerigo Bonasera
read the book
confusing as clips from 2 films
Bullshit ...movie doesnt go into it
read the book and you will know what happened to the two guys that beat the undertaker's daughter...most people are too lazy to read more than a youtube title ...pathetic
Pitiful video! Terribly edited and among the worst on RUclips! Just awful! Shameful!