Why have the saxons largely lost their language? I can not imagine myself or my kindred every abandoning our latviešu language. Yesterday I found out that baltvācieši certainly spoke plattdeutsch as we have a german loan word bode and standart german does not have such a word, this was just the last straw I had had my suspicions for a while.
All German, Dutch and English dialects originate from the differentiation of West Germanic by some innovations in the 5th to 8th c. AD. Old Saxon was just one group of dialects. They all constituted a West Germanic dialect continuum and they remained mutually intelligent until ca. AD 800. Since the High Medieval Period the Continental West Germanic Dialect Continuum was called Lingua Teudisca or Dütsch (German). First Medieval writers (13th c.) and later modern linguistics (19th c.) ordered them into High German and Low German. Linguistics made that dependent on the presence or absence of the High German Consonant Change. Low German in the original wide sense included Low Franconian (mostly Dutch) and Low German (in the present narrow sense) that developed from Old Saxon. There are still speakers of all German dialects inclusive Low German. But in the 16th/17th c. political and educated elites in Protestant North and East German states replaced the Middle Low German writing languages with the "High German" of the Lutheran Bible. But everywhere in the German states the population spoke the respective dialects as normal means of conversation until the middle of the 20th c.. In the middle of the 18th c. the "High German writing language" (Hochdeutsch) prevailed everywhere and replaced competing German writing languages except in the Netherlands where "Nederlands", Dutch (until 1815 called "Nederduits" = Low German) was established. Luther didn't want to replace the different German writing languages but wanted to create a Lingua Franca that was understood from Amsterdam to Vienna. But the establishment of just two writing languages, (High) German = Standard German, and Dutch, made communication much easier. Because the West Germanic idioms lost mutual intelligibility after 800.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 I did but you didn't understand. Old Saxon evolved to Middle Low German. After the Reformation the North German Lutheran Protestant states (principalities and towns) of the Holy Roman Empire adopted the High German writing language of Luther's Bible instead of Middle Low German writing languages for writing. Thus the Diglossia of spoken dialect and written "High German" evolved. Since the middle of the 20th c. dialects were increasingly disbanded for speaking and replaced by Standard German (standardized form of "High German") in German speaking countries(except in Switzerland) because of the millions of Germans refugees from the East (mostly from the eastern Prussian provinces) after 1945. The importance of Standard German grew massively because formal education became much more important in the decades after WW2 and TV reinforced the trend. That began even earlier in some North German towns where Standard German replaced Low German as spoken idiom. Only in North Germany a stable variant of spoken Standard German evolved (Hanover German) and became the role model for all German speaking regions, with only minor changes according to southern pronunciation peculiarities. The Early Medieval West Germanic dialects like Old Saxon are nowhere spoken anymore. Their modern successors (like Low German) lost importance (except Alemannic in Switzerland) out of the same reasons dialects lost importance almost everywhere. Since the Late Middle Age the Saxons increasingly called Saxony Lower Saxony because the Saxon name spread up the Elbe river and the Saxons wanted to distinguish themselves from the inhabitants of the middle Elbe region who were also increasingly called Saxons. Since then "Sachsen" (Saxons) means Upper Saxons (who are historically no Saxons at all) and the descendents of the real Saxons call themselves "Niedersachsen" (Lower Saxons). But the Saxon Low German was still named just Sassisch (Nederlandesch, Nederdüdesch meant the same) for a long time. Nowadays "Sächsisch" always means the Middle Elbe Saxon dialect (East Central German), "Niedersächsisch" is the modern name of Saxon Low German, the descendent of Old Saxon.
@@waltergro9102 No, you didnt. Typological and geniological classification is not the same. I say saxon for a reason. Low german includes low frankish, aka flemish, hollands, standart nederlands. Why do the saxons not speak saxon, but instead speak standart german? I know everything you said and I can not answer this question, it is not a question of WHAT it is a question of WHY.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 I'm at a loss why I have to try to explain it a 3rd time! Old Saxon evolved into Middle Low German that was also used for writing, of course. Saxon Low German (Low Saxon) lost it's importance for communication in two steps. First in the 16th/17th c. because the "High German" of Luther's Bible replaced it for writing in Lutheran Protestant states in North Germany (more to the west Low German remained more important until the beginning of the 19th c.). In the middle of the 20th c. all German dialects and especially Low German in North and East Germany were replaced as primary idiom for speaking by Standard German. That began already early in North and East Germany in urban milieus. People regarded it advantageous to converse in Standard German, the language of school, literature, theatre, administration etc.. Of course urban middle classes that preferred Standard German, still spoke dialect (here Low German) with people who were used to converse in Low German (working class and rural population). The originally unusual strong position of Standard German for oral communication in North Germany and the North German origin of a stable pronunciation variant of Standard German resulted in the later belief of many South Germans that Standard German came from the north. That's obviously nonsense because it's a High German idiom, the North has Low German dialects. But Standard German for oral communication came from the North. When Upper Germans (South Germans and Austrians) tried to speak the precursor "High German" they ended up with just slightly modified versions of their dialects (nowadays that's called "regiolects"). Some "High German" verses of Goethe only rhyme when pronounced according to the old Hessian dialect of Frankfurt.
+Harald Arzberger Hallo Harald, danke für den Kommentar. Das mach ich gern. Tut mir leid, wenn die Angabe, daß das Original von der Gruppe findlingfolk ist, zu ungenau ist.Das war keine böse Absicht. Herzliche Grüße, Kriemhild.
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Bitte den Liedtext hochladen. Ich bin auch interresiert daran. :-(
Why have the saxons largely lost their language? I can not imagine myself or my kindred every abandoning our latviešu language.
Yesterday I found out that baltvācieši certainly spoke plattdeutsch as we have a german loan word bode and standart german does not have such a word, this was just the last straw I had had my suspicions for a while.
All German, Dutch and English dialects originate from the differentiation of West Germanic by some innovations in the 5th to 8th c. AD. Old Saxon was just one group of dialects. They all constituted a West Germanic dialect continuum and they remained mutually intelligent until ca. AD 800. Since the High Medieval Period the Continental West Germanic Dialect Continuum was called Lingua Teudisca or Dütsch (German). First Medieval writers (13th c.) and later modern linguistics (19th c.) ordered them into High German and Low German. Linguistics made that dependent on the presence or absence of the High German Consonant Change. Low German in the original wide sense included Low Franconian (mostly Dutch) and Low German (in the present narrow sense) that developed from Old Saxon. There are still speakers of all German dialects inclusive Low German.
But in the 16th/17th c. political and educated elites in Protestant North and East German states replaced the Middle Low German writing languages with the "High German" of the Lutheran Bible. But everywhere in the German states the population spoke the respective dialects as normal means of conversation until the middle of the 20th c..
In the middle of the 18th c. the "High German writing language" (Hochdeutsch) prevailed everywhere and replaced competing German writing languages except in the Netherlands where "Nederlands", Dutch (until 1815 called "Nederduits" = Low German) was established.
Luther didn't want to replace the different German writing languages but wanted to create a Lingua Franca that was understood from Amsterdam to Vienna. But the establishment of just two writing languages, (High) German = Standard German, and Dutch, made communication much easier. Because the West Germanic idioms lost mutual intelligibility after 800.
@@waltergro9102 You have told me nothing new and didnt answer the question. WHY do the saxons not speak saxon?
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 I did but you didn't understand. Old Saxon evolved to Middle Low German. After the Reformation the North German Lutheran Protestant states (principalities and towns) of the Holy Roman Empire adopted the High German writing language of Luther's Bible instead of Middle Low German writing languages for writing. Thus the Diglossia of spoken dialect and written "High German" evolved. Since the middle of the 20th c. dialects were increasingly disbanded for speaking and replaced by Standard German (standardized form of "High German") in German speaking countries(except in Switzerland) because of the millions of Germans refugees from the East (mostly from the eastern Prussian provinces) after 1945. The importance of Standard German grew massively because formal education became much more important in the decades after WW2 and TV reinforced the trend. That began even earlier in some North German towns where Standard German replaced Low German as spoken idiom. Only in North Germany a stable variant of spoken Standard German evolved (Hanover German) and became the role model for all German speaking regions, with only minor changes according to southern pronunciation peculiarities.
The Early Medieval West Germanic dialects like Old Saxon are nowhere spoken anymore. Their modern successors (like Low German) lost importance (except Alemannic in Switzerland) out of the same reasons dialects lost importance almost everywhere.
Since the Late Middle Age the Saxons increasingly called Saxony Lower Saxony because the Saxon name spread up the Elbe river and the Saxons wanted to distinguish themselves from the inhabitants of the middle Elbe region who were also increasingly called Saxons. Since then "Sachsen" (Saxons) means Upper Saxons (who are historically no Saxons at all) and the descendents of the real Saxons call themselves "Niedersachsen" (Lower Saxons). But the Saxon Low German was still named just Sassisch (Nederlandesch, Nederdüdesch meant the same) for a long time. Nowadays "Sächsisch" always means the Middle Elbe Saxon dialect (East Central German), "Niedersächsisch" is the modern name of Saxon Low German, the descendent of Old Saxon.
@@waltergro9102 No, you didnt.
Typological and geniological classification is not the same. I say saxon for a reason. Low german includes low frankish, aka flemish, hollands, standart nederlands.
Why do the saxons not speak saxon, but instead speak standart german? I know everything you said and I can not answer this question, it is not a question of WHAT it is a question of WHY.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 I'm at a loss why I have to try to explain it a 3rd time! Old Saxon evolved into Middle Low German that was also used for writing, of course. Saxon Low German (Low Saxon) lost it's importance for communication in two steps. First in the 16th/17th c. because the "High German" of Luther's Bible replaced it for writing in Lutheran Protestant states in North Germany (more to the west Low German remained more important until the beginning of the 19th c.). In the middle of the 20th c. all German dialects and especially Low German in North and East Germany were replaced as primary idiom for speaking by Standard German. That began already early in North and East Germany in urban milieus. People regarded it advantageous to converse in Standard German, the language of school, literature, theatre, administration etc.. Of course urban middle classes that preferred Standard German, still spoke dialect (here Low German) with people who were used to converse in Low German (working class and rural population). The originally unusual strong position of Standard German for oral communication in North Germany and the North German origin of a stable pronunciation variant of Standard German resulted in the later belief of many South Germans that Standard German came from the north. That's obviously nonsense because it's a High German idiom, the North has Low German dialects. But Standard German for oral communication came from the North. When Upper Germans (South Germans and Austrians) tried to speak the precursor "High German" they ended up with just slightly modified versions of their dialects (nowadays that's called "regiolects"). Some "High German" verses of Goethe only rhyme when pronounced according to the old Hessian dialect of Frankfurt.
ein sehr schoenes lied. gibt es davon auch den text und wollen sie den bitte auch hochladen? Ich wuerde mich sehr darueber freuen!
Moin Kriemhild, wunderschöne Stimme😊Können Sie den Liedtext mal hochladen? Ich bin bloß interessiert daran.
I realize it is pretty off topic but does anyone know of a good site to stream newly released tv shows online?
@Zachary Deshawn i watch on Flixzone. You can find it on google =)
@Moises Jesus yea, I have been watching on flixzone for years myself :D
@Moises Jesus Thank you, I went there and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :) I appreciate it !!
@Zachary Deshawn no problem :D
Hallo Kriemhild, nett gesungen, du solltest aber auch den Komponisten und Texter Anja Arzberger zumindest erwähnen.
+Harald Arzberger Hallo Harald, danke für den Kommentar. Das mach ich gern. Tut mir leid, wenn die Angabe, daß das Original von der Gruppe findlingfolk ist, zu ungenau ist.Das war keine böse Absicht. Herzliche Grüße, Kriemhild.