I've got a lot of you asking what if you activate 1 day at peace (which lets both draw at the same time) what happens? Its a tie, since its at the same time. If something does go first like sangan or another card which needs to resolve then just like sangan whoever goes first wins (or loses depending on chain)
Both players draw at the same time. Being quicker on the draw doesn't mean jack here; the effect doesn't resolve until both players have drawn, and victory conditions aren't checked until the currently-resolving effect resolves.
You throw him over the side after them and forget about him for the rest of the series to save yourself a lot of grief and his annoyingly screechy voice.
Dark magician new errata: If there are no monsters on the field, you can special summon this card (from your hand). If this card attacks your opponents life points directly, you win the match. You can attack with this card even if it is the first turn.
what happens when both players get EXODIA in their hand?!? well, a gateway portal is opened to the shadow realm where both players must reduel but played as a shadow game as their 5 pieces of EXODIA are banished. the loser's soul will remain wondering in darkness as the winner has no recollection of the event. Lost in darkness forever or Mind Crush?! IT'S TIME TO D-D-D-D-DUEL!!!
Correction IT'S TIME TO D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-DUEL!
Here's an interesting exodia ruling for you: if you activate sangan's effect at 500 LP under red-eyes flare metal dragon and add the last exodia piece, you win before the lethal damage would kill you.
Anubis Necros no you cant have less than 1 lp of course if you lose due to your lifepoints dropping to 0 (but that is a lose and doesnt count to inside the game thats the end of the game)
Basically, what's happening in the second scenario is that Exodia interupts chains, so the Sangan that _resolves_ first wins, in which case, the non-turn player wins due to the rules on simultaneous effects.
Actually had this happen once on duelling network, activate one day of peace, we both drew last piece, an arguement ensued admin was called and it was classed as a draw!
The answer to this question is actually very simple. If both players have Exodia at exactly the same time (like the first scenario) it is considered a tie since both Exodias would cancel each other out. But if both players obtain the last piece of Exodia as a result of a chain, (2nd scenario) since the chain resolves backwards, CL 2 would resolve and as soon as a player is holding all 5 pieces they immediately win. As soon as the requirements are met for a "win condition" effect, the game is over no matter what is happening, just like if your opponents LP hits zero or if they are prompted to draw when they have no cards in their deck, which are "win condition" game mechanics. Depending on the wording of the card in question, if it is a simultaneous effect then it is a draw, but if the effects must resolve in order the player who resolves first or has Exodia first wins because victory conditions are automatic.
I know sangan was illegal because of exodia, but a few years ago when I was building an exodia deck I just used three Blue Dragon Summoners: If this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard: You can add 1 Dragon, Warrior, or Spellcaster-Type Normal Monster from your Deck to your hand. Basically sangan. You just can't get the head. 4/5 of exodia is searchable with it alone.
exodia does not use chain link, so first person to add from sangan wins the duel. which will be opponent, because trn player mandatory first,t hen opponent, then turn player optional then opp optional.
The correct answer: sangan effect activate,but since it is your turn you can decide the order of the chain,if you decide to let oppenent sangan's effect,then chain your own sangan,you activate sangan's effect first thus winning the battle before the effect of the second sangan,it is the ecact opposite on your oppenent's turn
You should try this with other automatic win conditions, but this works as i thought it would. If both player's get exodia at the same time(without the use of a chain) then it's a draw if they have the same lifepoints, after that it's whoever get's all 5 peices first or whoever has more lifepoints(basic thing that happens in tournamenets, more lifepoint person wins in several cases)
It said on Yugioh Wiki Exodia the Forbidden One Rulings that: If each player has a "Sangan" sent to the Graveyard simultaneously by "Dark Hole" etc, the two form a Chain and you resolve backwards. The Turn Player's "Sangan" is Chain Link 1, and the opponent's is Chain Link 2. If each player has four pieces of "Exodia" in his hand, then Chain Link 2 resolves first and the opponent is declared the winner before Chain Link 1 resolves. ALSO If both players have all 5 of the cards listed on "Exodia the Forbidden One" in their hand at the same time, such as if both players start with all 5 of the cards in their opening hand, or if both players draw all 5 cards by the effect of "Card Destruction", the game is declared a DRAW.
I agree with the rule that it's whoever drew the last piece first, if you read the rule on the card it's purely whether you have the pieces in your hand or not so as soon as anyone draws the last piece the duel ends immediately interrupting everything that was going on.
Both players searching the last piece of Exodia at the same time can't ever happen in the game, thanks to chain links. Both Sangan effects go onto the stack, and whoever resolves first wins. If both players start with Exodia (somehow), then it's a draw. They've answered these questions specifically in Exodia's rulings. The moment the current link resolves and you have all five, instant game over before the opponent gets to search their piece.
What REALLY happens when both players have Exodia at the same time: Their mom comes downstairs and tells them it's time for them to go out and get a job, because it's only going to get harder next year when they turn 35.
Right now? My guess is the player whose Sangan in chain link 2 will draw the last piece first and win but if there is a game mechanic states that a chain needs to be resolved before checking for a win condition(0 LP, Exodia, FINAL, Vennominaga, etc) then it may end in a draw.
PLEASE TRY THIS!!Player A goes first playing exodia and needs one last piece of exodia to fulfill the win condition. Player B is playing "the creator god of light horakhty". Player A drops a maxx C during player B's turn. Player A successfully special summons horakhty and player B immediately draws the last piece of exodia on the special summon. Who wins? I'm not sure if maxx C will even be able to get the draw off of horakhty's special summon. However, Maxx C is a mandatory draw "immediately" when your opponent specials summons. What do you guys think? Feel free to comment or like this comment if you want AznEyes to try this out.
Michael Medina Basically, as soon as a win condition is met (and a card isn't in the middle of resolving), the duel is over. Horakhty's 'win condition' effect takes place as soon as it's summoned, and it can't be chained to, so basically you always win if you summon it. At least, I think that's how it works.
+Starslayer This is the basically the only time where both players win at the same time, so the result is a Draw. Likewise, if both players lose at the same time (deck out, etc), it is still a Draw. So in both instances, both players draw at the same time because 1 player drawing at a different time isn't possible, otherwise it would be a win or loss, not a Draw. That being said, Draws end in Draws, not wins for turn players. For your claim to be true, a Draw in a tournament simply wouldn't be possible (actually they exist and they are known to screw up pairings), since both players Draw and there is always a turn player... Can you at least provide an example of what you are talking about?
Draws in tournaments come from turns in time. if both players are still tied at the end of the 5 turns it results in a draw. at least for tier 1 events. At tier 2 events (more casual) there are 3 turns of time then first damage, so there are no draws. one day of peace with exodia is one example i know of where turn player would win, as technically turn player conducts their draw first.
If you both draw exodia in your opening hand it's a draw. I've done it before because my friend tried to troll me by turning do not shuffle deck o and top decking Exodia, but I noticed and did the same thing. If I'm correct a Sangan battle is a simultaneous chain, so you'll both get the pieces at the same time and you'll both win.
I can't belive no one has brought up Emissary of the Afterlife. Not only CAN this card this card tie with Exodia, but I had it happen during an official tournament. Since this single card effect lets both players search out a limb it is one of the easiest ways for this to happen.
I remember in one of the tag force games if a piece of exodia is the last card in your deck and you were to use a card like pot of greed, then you would lose the duel because you would have to draw into nothing for the second pot of greed draw. Also something else in a tag force game I felt was worth sharing, apparently if you have no cards left in your deck you cannot activate pot of avarice as the deck is no longer available for you to shuffle cards into.
No, you can't activate Pot of Greed with 1 card in the deck. However, this scenario could still happen if you had 3 cards in your deck, you activated Pot of Greed, and your opponent chained something to mill 2 of them.
Fair enough, but it should be obvious since whoever gets the cards in their hand first wins (the whole chain doesn't need to resolve, just individual effects like Hand Destruction, and SECOG always answered things like Sangans). The only other scenario is with something like One Day of Peace where both players draw at the same time, and thus the only possible outcome is a DRAW.
happened in duel links, oppo activated card to search for exodia piece, I chain Common Charity draw all pieces, discard another normal monster and win game before oppo could search
Gaydra get your rules game on. Active Player, Non Active Player is in YGO as well. It's your turn so you are the active player. Both Sangan die and will be put on the stack. Since you are the active player, your Sangan enters the stack as Chain Link 1. After that your opponent's Sangan triggers as Chain Link 2. Since the stack is cleared Last in -> First Out your opponent can search Exodia and WHILE YOUR SANGAN IS STILL ON THE STACK! (That's the important part) your opponents Exodia activates and wins the game
exodia effect to win it's cost to win so the first one who resolves the sangan wins the duel and the chain link 1 sangan wouldn't even search cause the game will be over before he resolves... for exodia first hand it's harder to say, the only thing that i can think is a draw because both players wins by cost, you don't have to declare the effevt. i hope thst i'm right.
i would think that since their is no mulligan phase, the check happens immediately, and since a player has first priority on their turn the first player would win
ok, so i know i'm late, but there is this card called like, skill absorbtion or something, basically skill drain exept it affects monsters hand effects, not feild effects. i know you can't negate exodia, but what happens if it can never activate in the first place?
Exodia doesnt start a chain, exodia isnt an effect its a win condition, its the same ruling that says you cant D Wrath/respond to exodia. You can no more chain to exodia than you could chain to your LP hitting zero
what happens if you both use jar of avarice at the same time and you both get the last piece of exodia because you gotta draw a card thanks to avarice's affect
It would be a draw and nothing more. It doesnt matter who reveals exodia first or last. If you both draw all five pieces and as soon as both players draw the amount of cards they need to, exodia's effect activates for both players. Again, the match ends in a DRAW and nothing more.
according to judge rulings it resolves in a chainlink and and who ever is turn player loses because they are treated as chainlink 1. or thats how it was explained to me by a head judge anyway
If we're going by the starting hands then the duel doesn't start until both have five cards, and just like both players hitting zero life points at the same time, it's a draw
That dont deserve a test, its in fact a basic ruling, its obviously that neither player can attack with sangan, priority makes cl2 non active turn player and he/she wins resolving search.
did you knew that you can loose with exodia in hand? killed a exodia player who had appropriate on their field so they can draw 2 when i draw 1 outside of my drawphase - and i had my tethys running and his last card in his deck was an exodia piece because he put it on bottom of the deck with some effect - and he was on on uneven number of deckcrads - so when he got to 1 deckcard left i drew 1 more and he had to draw 2 - so he drew his last part but died due to decking out mid resovling appropriate
Well...there is a reason why "chain" exist in Yugioh. I'm sure whoever chains resolves first gets the win. Like the very instant when you get the FINAL piece to your hand, all while Chain 1 is still resolving. At that moment, you win the game. Let me know if I'm wrong...
I'm guessing if both players both got exodia at the same time like if both was able to add a piece then it be a draw. I don't think one person wins. Like if both played jar of greed and if both drew the 5th piece I don't think it matters if one or the other chains first as both are all 5 pieces. I have always wondered what would happen
I'm sure if for example, Player A activated One Day of Peace and drew into the final Exodia piece, but Player B also drew the final Exodia piece, a judge would rule Player A would win due to Player A having turn priority? Maybe, idk, but I doubt a judge would rule a tie.
prntscr.com/eojoq4 this rule hasn't changed. the chain has to resolve completely before exodia can be reviled. this was settled at regional and ycs's at the time in 2015 sense people would chain mind crush to pull a piece out of the hand.
Here's another crazy experiment for you. It actually has me and the rest of the dn admin team arguing over it. If player 1 controls ignister and a card in his pendulum zones, and only those cards, while player 2 controls one chain able back row (say poison of the old man) and nothing else. If player 1 activates ignister, popping their scale to shuffle a card, and player 2 chains the backrow, does ignister have to shuffle itself into the deck because activated spells are marked for grave and cannot be moved elsewhere, or can ignister still designate it as the intended card to no effect?
Ignister will shuffle itself back into the extra deck as it was the last effect to resolve in the chain, leaving no applicable card other than itself on the field. If Ignister's effect were to shuffle a card on the field by means of *targeting* , then it would be able to target the face-down chainable card, in which the resolve would amount to no applicable target, since that target is now gone. Ignister will still be on the field however in this instance. It is for the same reason why a player's *Rise to full Height* 's graveyard effect can chain to the same player's *Psyframe Lord Omega* 's effect to banish itself and a card from the opponent's hand, resulting in an unapplicable target for *Rise to full Height* that would lead to the opponent not being able to attack at all during the Battle Phase. And yes, this is a loop.
AznEyesWhiteDragon [Slaydra YGO] I would like to know what happen if you and your opponent have each a face-up appropriate, and your stuck in a loop drawing two cards, and you have 1 card left in your deck, that his the last peace of exodia, and your force to draw 2 card by oppopriate effect would you win from Exodia winn condition, or you would lose from the out deck. I know the answer already from the rulling page, but I just want to know if Yugioh pro makes it works the same as the rulling
exodia is not an effect but a win condition. it just happens....also both players start the game with 5 cards in hand so if both have exodia on start it is a draw
I once played exodia vs exodia on ygopro, we both chained some trap cards to draw cards and we both drew our last piece of exodia and it turned out to be a draw game.
Lol, how can both players search for one at the same time - you insta win the game in between chains, but not inbetween effects... Sangans would be chained to each other, so the first person to resolve would win... oh, it shows that in the video
I'm wondering how Witch Of The Black Forest will work with cards like Vanity's and Jinzo with the Sangan errata. Can you apply their continuous effects during the turn you search them? They technically don't activate. Probably not.
Weareonenation303 you can use them because they don't activate. Sangan says that you can't activate them, not that you can't apply them (which is what continuous effects do)
So the 2nd experiment... If exodia is effect then opponent shouldn't win at that point... If exodia is win condition then it also shouldn't win at that point... ???
if in Ygopro it has the turn player win if in IRL. it would result in a draw game or should any ways.. like in the WC games they had it where if both players had Exodia at same time it was a draw
for the sangan example, why does opp win? don't both sangan's effs' go off at the same time so it would be segoc and resolution order is determined by turn player due to turn player priority?
Both Sangans die at the same time. When two effects start at the same time, Turn player effect must go first starting chain 1. Opponent effect goes after starting chain 2. Chains resolve backwards, so Opponent searches first and wins. The Chain does not have to resolve completely, just the chain number for Exodia to win.
honesty, what did you think would happen? I already tried this experiment on ygopro. the player who draws or has all pieces in there hand first wins. if they have it at the same time then it's a draw. Not that interesting.
first, if your opening hand contains all five pieces of exodia, you loose on grounds of cheating. this was the original ruling before Konami took over the running of tournaments. the reasoning being that it is statistically so unlikely that you must be cheating. 2, when it comes to exodia the only way to end up with both players having all five pieces at the same time is with cards like dark world dealings that causes both players to draw in the same effect, as 2 Sangans would resolve one after the other and exodia's victory effect interupts all other effects, acting like a functional spell speed infinity.
If both players drew it at the exact same time? Hm... I'd personally go with whoever's turn it is at that moment, even if both starting hands are Exodia, turn order gets determined before they draw. But generally I don't really care, the arguments people are trying to bring up are just hilarious. lol That Sangan scenario is really interesting though, didn't expect it to break the chain just like that. but then again... it's Exodolon
somebody try this, get both player to have exodia pieces in the deck, then use card destruction (or hand distruction) so both players draw into it at the same time
if the card effect is at the same time its a tie, but if one has to go first, via the card effect, then whoever gets the card first wins (as in the video)
Even if you had an effect that prevents your opponent from special summoning they still special summon a monster because the special summon is due to the effect of Last Turn. It's sort of like you using Ojama Trio.
Adhurim Mujaj if you activate Last Turn and you special summon a monster that prevents special summons, your opponent cannot special summon their monster, meaning you win because you have a monster, and your opponent does not. this used to happen back in the day, and it's known as Last Turn OTK.
what about off of Hand destruction and 1 player draws the final piece as his first card the other player off the second card? Would it stop mid effect? or would it happen at the end of the resolution of the effect of hand destruction so it would be a draw?
Exodia is declared on resolution of the card. You have to resolve the effect in chain but not whole chain to be able to declare Exodia. It would be a draw.
There's a ruling for it already. If either deck has 0 cards then you can't activate it. You also can't Dark Bribe your opponent if they don't have any cards remaining in their deck.
What would happen if you had Hakata the creator of light you saw them on the field and your opponent had a trap card whenever you summon a monster he drawes a card
What happens if one player summons Holactie the Creator of Light while the other person had Max c active and they draw into the last piece of Exodia off of the summon of Holactie?
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I've got a lot of you asking what if you activate 1 day at peace (which lets both draw at the same time) what happens? Its a tie, since its at the same time. If something does go first like sangan or another card which needs to resolve then just like sangan whoever goes first wins (or loses depending on chain)
simple whoever draw first ( the one who activated one day of peace " my best card " )
AznEyesWhiteDragon [Slaydra YGO] i guess it would be a tie
nope. in official rulebook, it's a tie.
Both players draw at the same time. Being quicker on the draw doesn't mean jack here; the effect doesn't resolve until both players have drawn, and victory conditions aren't checked until the currently-resolving effect resolves.
so y does.glasgow hate u
Who wins if you let an insect enthusiast hold your exodia cards and then he throws them off the boat?
You still win, as long as you have a magic puzzle with an old pharaoh in it (and you cheat a lot...).
AJ Lynch use mushroom man
You will win as long as you DORO MONSTA KAADO
You win just if you know what pot of greed do
You throw him over the side after them and forget about him for the rest of the series to save yourself a lot of grief and his annoyingly screechy voice.
Experiment if it's possible to gg your opponent by declaring a direct attack with Dark Magician with no monsters left on the field.
Dark magician new errata:
If there are no monsters on the field, you can special summon this card (from your hand). If this card attacks your opponents life points directly, you win the match. You can attack with this card even if it is the first turn.
What happens if both players draw all 5 pieces of Winged Dragon of Ra-Sphere Mode?
What happens if you use probibition on prohibition?
lol I think we all know Kaiba was ready with that trap card
Experiment if a hot girl will stalk you to play a childrens card game on a cell phone.
what happens when both players get EXODIA in their hand?!? well, a gateway portal is opened to the shadow realm where both players must reduel but played as a shadow game as their 5 pieces of EXODIA are banished. the loser's soul will remain wondering in darkness as the winner has no recollection of the event. Lost in darkness forever or Mind Crush?! IT'S TIME TO D-D-D-D-DUEL!!!
Correction IT'S TIME TO D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-DUEL!
the Sagan one used to be a question on the judge test
actually still is lol
in terms of sangan the answer is whoever resolves it first wins, meaning CL2, meaning not the turn player
Here's an interesting exodia ruling for you: if you activate sangan's effect at 500 LP under red-eyes flare metal dragon and add the last exodia piece, you win before the lethal damage would kill you.
You'd take the 500 when Sangan's effect activates if you choose to activate it.
Kong Moua flare metal burns 500 AFTER an effect resolves. Not during. If that makes sense.
Also if you summon Beelze against Flare Metal Dragon, it creates an infinite loop that results in the Beelze player losing
superHC
Didn't know that.
but can you have half a life point if you keep cutting it in half
Anubis Necros no you cant have less than 1 lp of course if you lose due to your lifepoints dropping to 0 (but that is a lose and doesnt count to inside the game thats the end of the game)
Anubis Necros I would thing if you had .5 lifepoints you would be find because of rounding. Once you hit .25 then you lose the game I think.
Anubis Necros you can half your life or opponents until the lowest whole number then any additional halves will just fizzle out
I dont think life point halfing effects can activate on life points that low.
i have try that in ygopro then you have you lp then your lp is 1 it round down to 0
What if they summon exodia but I play the Uno reverse card?
Basically, what's happening in the second scenario is that Exodia interupts chains, so the Sangan that _resolves_ first wins, in which case, the non-turn player wins due to the rules on simultaneous effects.
Actually had this happen once on duelling network, activate one day of peace, we both drew last piece, an arguement ensued admin was called and it was classed as a draw!
The answer to this question is actually very simple. If both players have Exodia at exactly the same time (like the first scenario) it is considered a tie since both Exodias would cancel each other out. But if both players obtain the last piece of Exodia as a result of a chain, (2nd scenario) since the chain resolves backwards, CL 2 would resolve and as soon as a player is holding all 5 pieces they immediately win. As soon as the requirements are met for a "win condition" effect, the game is over no matter what is happening, just like if your opponents LP hits zero or if they are prompted to draw when they have no cards in their deck, which are "win condition" game mechanics. Depending on the wording of the card in question, if it is a simultaneous effect then it is a draw, but if the effects must resolve in order the player who resolves first or has Exodia first wins because victory conditions are automatic.
I know sangan was illegal because of exodia, but a few years ago when I was building an exodia deck I just used three Blue Dragon Summoners: If this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard: You can add 1 Dragon, Warrior, or Spellcaster-Type Normal Monster from your Deck to your hand.
Basically sangan. You just can't get the head. 4/5 of exodia is searchable with it alone.
exodia does not use chain link, so first person to add from sangan wins the duel. which will be opponent, because trn player mandatory first,t hen opponent, then turn player optional then opp optional.
The correct answer: sangan effect activate,but since it is your turn you can decide the order of the chain,if you decide to let oppenent sangan's effect,then chain your own sangan,you activate sangan's effect first thus winning the battle before the effect of the second sangan,it is the ecact opposite on your oppenent's turn
You should try this with other automatic win conditions, but this works as i thought it would. If both player's get exodia at the same time(without the use of a chain) then it's a draw if they have the same lifepoints, after that it's whoever get's all 5 peices first or whoever has more lifepoints(basic thing that happens in tournamenets, more lifepoint person wins in several cases)
It said on Yugioh Wiki Exodia the Forbidden One Rulings that:
If each player has a "Sangan" sent to the Graveyard simultaneously by "Dark Hole" etc, the two form a Chain and you resolve backwards. The Turn Player's "Sangan" is Chain Link 1, and the opponent's is Chain Link 2. If each player has four pieces of "Exodia" in his hand, then Chain Link 2 resolves first and the opponent is declared the winner before Chain Link 1 resolves.
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If both players have all 5 of the cards listed on "Exodia the Forbidden One" in their hand at the same time, such as if both players start with all 5 of the cards in their opening hand, or if both players draw all 5 cards by the effect of "Card Destruction", the game is declared a DRAW.
I agree with the rule that it's whoever drew the last piece first, if you read the rule on the card it's purely whether you have the pieces in your hand or not so as soon as anyone draws the last piece the duel ends immediately interrupting everything that was going on.
Both players searching the last piece of Exodia at the same time can't ever happen in the game, thanks to chain links. Both Sangan effects go onto the stack, and whoever resolves first wins. If both players start with Exodia (somehow), then it's a draw. They've answered these questions specifically in Exodia's rulings. The moment the current link resolves and you have all five, instant game over before the opponent gets to search their piece.
its whose ever exodia has the higer attack (draw if tied)
if you have exodia and raging earth and x2 winge dragon of ra sphere modes then your exodia has extra attack, little D only increases attack by 1
taburz blism you give me a RAGING EARTH
What REALLY happens when both players have Exodia at the same time:
Their mom comes downstairs and tells them it's time for them to go out and get a job, because it's only going to get harder next year when they turn 35.
Right now? My guess is the player whose Sangan in chain link 2 will draw the last piece first and win but if there is a game mechanic states that a chain needs to be resolved before checking for a win condition(0 LP, Exodia, FINAL, Vennominaga, etc) then it may end in a draw.
PLEASE TRY THIS!!Player A goes first playing exodia and needs one last piece of exodia to fulfill the win condition. Player B is playing "the creator god of light horakhty". Player A drops a maxx C during player B's turn. Player A successfully special summons horakhty and player B immediately draws the last piece of exodia on the special summon. Who wins?
I'm not sure if maxx C will even be able to get the draw off of horakhty's special summon. However, Maxx C is a mandatory draw "immediately" when your opponent specials summons. What do you guys think? Feel free to comment or like this comment if you want AznEyes to try this out.
Michael Medina Basically, as soon as a win condition is met (and a card isn't in the middle of resolving), the duel is over. Horakhty's 'win condition' effect takes place as soon as it's summoned, and it can't be chained to, so basically you always win if you summon it. At least, I think that's how it works.
@Magileine
On YGOPro, if you have Dueltainment on the field and your opponent attacks, reducing your LP to 0, you draw 2 cards (off the
where can you custom edit these specific fields and hands? Do you need a special programm?
Try again with one day of peace
Magileine as I'm aware in rulings, turn player wins in any scenario where both players draw at the exact same time.
+Starslayer
This is the basically the only time where both players win at the same time, so the result is a Draw. Likewise, if both players lose at the same time (deck out, etc), it is still a Draw. So in both instances, both players draw at the same time because 1 player drawing at a different time isn't possible, otherwise it would be a win or loss, not a Draw. That being said, Draws end in Draws, not wins for turn players. For your claim to be true, a Draw in a tournament simply wouldn't be possible (actually they exist and they are known to screw up pairings), since both players Draw and there is always a turn player...
Can you at least provide an example of what you are talking about?
Draws in tournaments come from turns in time. if both players are still tied at the end of the 5 turns it results in a draw. at least for tier 1 events. At tier 2 events (more casual) there are 3 turns of time then first damage, so there are no draws.
one day of peace with exodia is one example i know of where turn player would win, as technically turn player conducts their draw first.
If you both draw exodia in your opening hand it's a draw. I've done it before because my friend tried to troll me by turning do not shuffle deck o and top decking Exodia, but I noticed and did the same thing. If I'm correct a Sangan battle is a simultaneous chain, so you'll both get the pieces at the same time and you'll both win.
I can't belive no one has brought up Emissary of the Afterlife. Not only CAN this card this card tie with Exodia, but I had it happen during an official tournament. Since this single card effect lets both players search out a limb it is one of the easiest ways for this to happen.
I remember in one of the tag force games if a piece of exodia is the last card in your deck and you were to use a card like pot of greed, then you would lose the duel because you would have to draw into nothing for the second pot of greed draw. Also something else in a tag force game I felt was worth sharing, apparently if you have no cards left in your deck you cannot activate pot of avarice as the deck is no longer available for you to shuffle cards into.
Magileine yes you can you lose the duel
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT. WHAT DOES POT OF GREED DO?
you should be able to activate pot of greed if you have 1 card it just says "draw two cards" but of course you'll lose the duel lol
No, you can't activate Pot of Greed with 1 card in the deck. However, this scenario could still happen if you had 3 cards in your deck, you activated Pot of Greed, and your opponent chained something to mill 2 of them.
I've been looking for this answer for so long
Why? It's not like it is ever going to happen...
Can't a nigga be curious
Fair enough, but it should be obvious since whoever gets the cards in their hand first wins (the whole chain doesn't need to resolve, just individual effects like Hand Destruction, and SECOG always answered things like Sangans). The only other scenario is with something like One Day of Peace where both players draw at the same time, and thus the only possible outcome is a DRAW.
not gonna lie, I had thought that my laptop was going to explode watching this
happened in duel links, oppo activated card to search for exodia piece, I chain Common Charity draw all pieces, discard another normal monster and win game before oppo could search
Gaydra get your rules game on. Active Player, Non Active Player is in YGO as well. It's your turn so you are the active player. Both Sangan die and will be put on the stack. Since you are the active player, your Sangan enters the stack as Chain Link 1. After that your opponent's Sangan triggers as Chain Link 2.
Since the stack is cleared Last in -> First Out your opponent can search Exodia and WHILE YOUR SANGAN IS STILL ON THE STACK! (That's the important part) your opponents Exodia activates and wins the game
exodia effect to win it's cost to win so the first one who resolves the sangan wins the duel and the chain link 1 sangan wouldn't even search cause the game will be over before he resolves...
for exodia first hand it's harder to say, the only thing that i can think is a draw because both players wins by cost, you don't have to declare the effevt.
i hope thst i'm right.
i would think that since their is no mulligan phase, the check happens immediately, and since a player has first priority on their turn the first player would win
ok, so i know i'm late, but there is this card called like, skill absorbtion or something, basically skill drain exept it affects monsters hand effects, not feild effects. i know you can't negate exodia, but what happens if it can never activate in the first place?
Exodia doesnt start a chain, exodia isnt an effect its a win condition, its the same ruling that says you cant D Wrath/respond to exodia. You can no more chain to exodia than you could chain to your LP hitting zero
what happens if you both use jar of avarice at the same time and you both get the last piece of exodia because you gotta draw a card thanks to avarice's affect
This is a nice idea for a series.
This is like the chicken and the egg scenario of yugioh
It would be a draw and nothing more. It doesnt matter who reveals exodia first or last. If you both draw all five pieces and as soon as both players draw the amount of cards they need to, exodia's effect activates for both players. Again, the match ends in a DRAW and nothing more.
according to judge rulings it resolves in a chainlink and and who ever is turn player loses because they are treated as chainlink 1. or thats how it was explained to me by a head judge anyway
TubbyToadInc exodia doesn't start a chain. Judge was wrong. It's a condition, not an effect.
If we're going by the starting hands then the duel doesn't start until both have five cards, and just like both players hitting zero life points at the same time, it's a draw
That dont deserve a test, its in fact a basic ruling, its obviously that neither player can attack with sangan, priority makes cl2 non active turn player and he/she wins resolving search.
did you knew that you can loose with exodia in hand? killed a exodia player who had appropriate on their field so they can draw 2 when i draw 1 outside of my drawphase - and i had my tethys running and his last card in his deck was an exodia piece because he put it on bottom of the deck with some effect - and he was on on uneven number of deckcrads - so when he got to 1 deckcard left i drew 1 more and he had to draw 2 - so he drew his last part but died due to decking out mid resovling appropriate
Well...there is a reason why "chain" exist in Yugioh. I'm sure whoever chains resolves first gets the win. Like the very instant when you get the FINAL piece to your hand, all while Chain 1 is still resolving. At that moment, you win the game. Let me know if I'm wrong...
for people who are asking for halving life points , the minimum number is 1 . i tried it the the trinity (cubic fusion)
*incoming the overused meme*
Both players opening Exodia would be like two Falcon Punches colliding.
The world ends before one prevails.
I'm guessing if both players both got exodia at the same time like if both was able to add a piece then it be a draw. I don't think one person wins. Like if both played jar of greed and if both drew the 5th piece I don't think it matters if one or the other chains first as both are all 5 pieces. I have always wondered what would happen
I'm sure if for example, Player A activated One Day of Peace and drew into the final Exodia piece, but Player B also drew the final Exodia piece, a judge would rule Player A would win due to Player A having turn priority? Maybe, idk, but I doubt a judge would rule a tie.
Turn priority only applies to activating effects or summoning/setting and such. The Exodia win condition is not an effect.
well there's an issue. in the Konami's official rules they changed it so that the chains must resolve first before the revieling of exodia can happen
PawDieFur so I believe the double Sangan would end in a draw then
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this rule hasn't changed. the chain has to resolve completely before exodia can be reviled. this was settled at regional and ycs's at the time in 2015 sense people would chain mind crush to pull a piece out of the hand.
yugiohblog.konami.com/articles/?p=7038
this is the actual site.
correct.
rekt
Here's another crazy experiment for you. It actually has me and the rest of the dn admin team arguing over it. If player 1 controls ignister and a card in his pendulum zones, and only those cards, while player 2 controls one chain able back row (say poison of the old man) and nothing else. If player 1 activates ignister, popping their scale to shuffle a card, and player 2 chains the backrow, does ignister have to shuffle itself into the deck because activated spells are marked for grave and cannot be moved elsewhere, or can ignister still designate it as the intended card to no effect?
Ignister will shuffle itself back into the extra deck as it was the last effect to resolve in the chain, leaving no applicable card other than itself on the field.
If Ignister's effect were to shuffle a card on the field by means of *targeting* , then it would be able to target the face-down chainable card, in which the resolve would amount to no applicable target, since that target is now gone. Ignister will still be on the field however in this instance.
It is for the same reason why a player's *Rise to full Height* 's graveyard effect can chain to the same player's *Psyframe Lord Omega* 's effect to banish itself and a card from the opponent's hand, resulting in an unapplicable target for *Rise to full Height* that would lead to the opponent not being able to attack at all during the Battle Phase. And yes, this is a loop.
last in chain resolves first, that part makes sense but how did his sagan effect become second in the chain?
Exodia's "effect" isn't really an effect, but it's a win condition, so yeah it can interrupt chains.
AznEyesWhiteDragon [Slaydra YGO] I would like to know what happen if you and your opponent have each a face-up appropriate, and your stuck in a loop drawing two cards, and you have 1 card left in your deck, that his the last peace of exodia, and your force to draw 2 card by oppopriate effect would you win from Exodia winn condition, or you would lose from the out deck. I know the answer already from the rulling page, but I just want to know if Yugioh pro makes it works the same as the rulling
exodia is not an effect but a win condition. it just happens....also both players start the game with 5 cards in hand so if both have exodia on start it is a draw
I once played exodia vs exodia on ygopro, we both chained some trap cards to draw cards and we both drew our last piece of exodia and it turned out to be a draw game.
Lol, how can both players search for one at the same time - you insta win the game in between chains, but not inbetween effects... Sangans would be chained to each other, so the first person to resolve would win... oh, it shows that in the video
1 out of 2 things happens.
1)player who's turn its current will win due to it's still his/her turn.
2)Draw
Kaiba: Ahh 2 exodia! It can't be possible! No body's ever been able to summon them!!!
what wold happen if you had all exodia pieces in the graveyard and has exodius while the other player has all peices of exodia?
where can you custom edit these specific fields and hands? Do you need a special programm?
I'm wondering how Witch Of The Black Forest will work with cards like Vanity's and Jinzo with the Sangan errata. Can you apply their continuous effects during the turn you search them? They technically don't activate. Probably not.
Weareonenation303 you can use them because they don't activate. Sangan says that you can't activate them, not that you can't apply them (which is what continuous effects do)
You should try to do this but with dark world dealings (both players draw the last piece at the exact same time).
So the 2nd experiment...
If exodia is effect then opponent shouldn't win at that point...
If exodia is win condition then it also shouldn't win at that point...
???
I'm curious if you pull all pieces in your opening hand and so does the other Player who wins then is it a tie or a coin toss for first turn?
if both have exodia you have to do rock, paper, scissors for the winner
if in Ygopro it has the turn player win
if in IRL. it would result in a draw game
or should any ways..
like in the WC games they had it where if both players had Exodia at same time it was a draw
for the sangan example, why does opp win? don't both sangan's effs' go off at the same time so it would be segoc and resolution order is determined by turn player due to turn player priority?
Both Sangans die at the same time. When two effects start at the same time, Turn player effect must go first starting chain 1. Opponent effect goes after starting chain 2. Chains resolve backwards, so Opponent searches first and wins. The Chain does not have to resolve completely, just the chain number for Exodia to win.
what jappens if someone playd one day of peace and both players draw into exodia
honesty, what did you think would happen? I already tried this experiment on ygopro. the player who draws or has all pieces in there hand first wins. if they have it at the same time then it's a draw. Not that interesting.
How are there five Dark Magicians in the first deck?
This exact scenario is a question on the judge test
What would happen it Konami reboot the game but without Synchros, XYZ, Pendulum monsters and make YuGiOh great again?
first, if your opening hand contains all five pieces of exodia, you loose on grounds of cheating. this was the original ruling before Konami took over the running of tournaments. the reasoning being that it is statistically so unlikely that you must be cheating. 2, when it comes to exodia the only way to end up with both players having all five pieces at the same time is with cards like dark world dealings that causes both players to draw in the same effect, as 2 Sangans would resolve one after the other and exodia's victory effect interupts all other effects, acting like a functional spell speed infinity.
There is no ruling saying first person to draw all 5 cards wins
How about one player activates on day of piece and both draw the last piece of exodia?
Jonathan Baeza it would be a draw again
wouldn't it be the person who's turn is happening at that time?
If both players drew it at the exact same time? Hm... I'd personally go with whoever's turn it is at that moment, even if both starting hands are Exodia, turn order gets determined before they draw.
But generally I don't really care, the arguments people are trying to bring up are just hilarious. lol
That Sangan scenario is really interesting though, didn't expect it to break the chain just like that.
but then again... it's Exodolon
somebody try this, get both player to have exodia pieces in the deck, then use card destruction (or hand distruction) so both players draw into it at the same time
What would happen if there are two or more doomcaliber knight's on the field and an effect goes off?
lookfun78 they cancel each other
it happened b4
not good if you control both 😥
What if u only had only one card left in ur deck all but one exodia piece in ur hand and u drew ur last card in ur Declan’s it’s the last exodia peice
Turn player has priority. This is or used to be a question on the test for judges.
Whoever gets the pieces first wins. If both players get it at the same time, turn player gets it
There's a ruling on this. Two players who achieve a win condition at the same time will end in a draw.
What if you both pull exodia in your opening hand?
What happens if both plays draw into exodia at the same time due to something like card destruction or hand destruction
if the card effect is at the same time its a tie, but if one has to go first, via the card effect, then whoever gets the card first wins (as in the video)
Both players draws Sxodia at the same time....... DRAW/Re-Duel, end of story.
A bigger question is: "Will we ever get the OCG artwork for Exodia??"
Using Last Turn and preventing your opponent from special summoning. Do you win or does the win con doesn't apply since it has to be by battle?
Even if you had an effect that prevents your opponent from special summoning they still special summon a monster because the special summon is due to the effect of Last Turn. It's sort of like you using Ojama Trio.
Adhurim Mujaj if you activate Last Turn and you special summon a monster that prevents special summons, your opponent cannot special summon their monster, meaning you win because you have a monster, and your opponent does not. this used to happen back in the day, and it's known as Last Turn OTK.
what about off of Hand destruction and 1 player draws the final piece as his first card the other player off the second card? Would it stop mid effect? or would it happen at the end of the resolution of the effect of hand destruction so it would be a draw?
Exodia is declared on resolution of the card. You have to resolve the effect in chain but not whole chain to be able to declare Exodia. It would be a draw.
what if someone activated a card like dark world dealings for example when both players have no other cards remaining in their decks.
There's a ruling for it already. If either deck has 0 cards then you can't activate it. You also can't Dark Bribe your opponent if they don't have any cards remaining in their deck.
I think they should both send all pieces to the grave and fight it out Royal Magical Library style.
I was thinking that whoever's turn it is, wins.
better way to test is one day of peace with deck set up
2:34 If you understand chains this is clear tbh
Physical battle to the death determines the winner.
its a tie, its one of the questions in the judge test
What would happen if you had Hakata the creator of light you saw them on the field and your opponent had a trap card whenever you summon a monster he drawes a card
AwesomeRainbow99 Of Epicness duel would be over before u could draw the card
Nah this isnt simultanious
You want something like hand destruction where the oponent also draws a card and get complete exodia at the same time.
Ah.. I fought whoever's turn it was would win in the Sangan instance
What happens if one player summons Holactie the Creator of Light while the other person had Max c active and they draw into the last piece of Exodia off of the summon of Holactie?
Horakthy player wins, because the game ends before the Exodia player draws.
exodia does not activate its not an effect, it is a win condition they is they it does not chain