Sting's heel turn in WCW was bad
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Sting should've never turned heel, the fans loved him far too much for there to even be a consideration of it. What did you think of Sting's heel turn?
'99 Sting and '01 Austin are the same thing. Too good to be boo'd.
Heel Sting mightve work but the fans were still cheering Sting and by Mayhem it was as if Sting never turned heel. Similar to Goldberg failed heel run
There are some people who can’t be babyfaces like MJF and there are some people who can’t be heels like Sting. I don’t like it. I myself like Sting.
his tna heel run was better
He was also a heel in the very beginning of his career when he was a nobody. And then there was his TNA heel run.
You forgot to mention that when sting first came back on nitro in march 1999, he had longer hair to start the year. But I did notice that sting was slowly cutting his hair short just before his return. And by the very end of 1999, his hair was very short, and he kept it that way.
He never grew it back longer after that return. Always wanted him to grow it longer when he was in TNA but he kept the Undertaker 2015/2016 Hair for the rest of his career
Sting was so loved even his heel turn got monster cheers at Fall Brawl
The fans loved Evil Sting and wanted to be evil with him. The fans wanted to turn heel too.
I was there in Winston Salem that night and it fell just as flat in person as I'm sure it did on TV. Nobody knew, or even cared what had just happened. WCW was falling so fast by Fall 99 it was unreal
Sting said he tried to go heel yet the crowd kept cheering him on and wouldn't accept him going heel
Red face sting was one of my best
Wolfpac Sting tight af
@@samtheone9680 Nwo wolfpack was great can’t forget about that banger theme song.
@@cliffordjackson3 Got that shit pumping on my playlist
You should do a video about the Wrestlers who changed brands in 2002 after The Draft. Nobody talks about that topic. You should analyze it and see how much succes they got after they switched brands. You know, the one where Stephanie and Bischoff were fighting for talent.
Honestly, if they wanted to really cement Sting being the bad guy, do like what they did with hogan, have sting come out WITH NO FACEPAINT, wearing sunglasses in a black leather jacket and jeans and boots, that would really make it look like they were serious with it.
He was good as he was having fun crippling people.
It may have been bad but wolfpac sting was badass
Wolfpac Sting was cool, even this version but he was better suited as a face
Even editorials commented on this. One of them stated that for someone like Sting, who has literally jumped out of hospital beds to wrestle, been selfless in repeatedly offering others the limelight even in his prime when he needed it more (Johnny B Badd, Bulldog, Hart, Luger, ...) and often stayed long after everyone else had gone to meet fans and sign autographs, long before the social media period; was hard to believe as a heel no matter how vile an act he could be shown to do in the ring.
Just live with it. The fans wanted to be evil acolytes of Evil Sting. Fans are not moral arbiters. Most wrestling fans are HORRIBLE people who would watch public executions if they still could nowadays.
Turning Sting and Goldberg heel was so stupid.
That's how much fans loved Sting, he would be cheered as a heel and wouldn't stay heel for long.
97 Sting not even Undertaker could touch. If only Hogan wasn't such a politician and played the slow count card at Starcade. Maybe alot more fans would like to acknowledge it
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'98 Taker would have beat Sting easily.
I disagree especially with 98 taker 95 maybe
If Sting had remained healthy during late 96, all through 97 and 98, man would things have been different for him and the wrestling fans. I believe there would have been no botch at Starrcade, storylines would’ve been better in 98 for him maybe a longer and better title run in 98. Who knows, maybe they wouldve booked him to beat Goldberg(which he shouldve).
Sting was heathly in '97 and so was Hulk Hogan's habit of lying and politicking
@@kurtvanderbogarde8402 no he wasn't, it's been revealed by Sting and Bischoff that Sting was suffering from serious substance abuse problems at the time.
@@Rollermacka He was still able to perform even if it might have caught up with him later but didn't. Hogan is full of 5h1t, I wish Billy Robinson could have got his hands on him.
oh and @@Rollermacka Eric covers Hulk's a$$ because even a megastar as Z-List as Hogan is a meal ticket for someone like Bischoff.
Sting spent his whole career up to this point fighting heels but never learned how to act like one
He was good when he sneak attacked Hogan in the parking lot and pretended to be a squeaky voiced little kid wanting Hogan's autograph before whacking him in the leg with his bat.
To this day I still can't believe WCW tried to turn Sting heel to get Hogan of all people cheered. Clearly wasn't going to work after all Hogan had done with the NWO
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Sting was not a heel he was a tweener nobody booed him some people cheered him he was a tweener at the end of the day
He was supposed to be an evil person, but the fans were evil too and wanted to be evil alongside him.
@@kurtvanderbogarde8402facts lol 💯
Heel sting to us just doesn’t click
Joker Sting was interesting on TNA. Although it never worked as Crow Sting.
Holy shit sting without the face paint looks exactly like Brandon Lee
Can you do a video about mick Foley's WWE heel run in 2006 or his WWE run in 2006 in general?
06 Foley was great. Loved his mini heel team with Edge.
I have liked Sting since I first saw him on TV in Atlanta. I was a fan of WCW before it was WCW and was Georgia Championship Wrestling, big fan of Flair also.
Back in 1995/96 Sting was more of a tweener and I thought it was going to be The Stinger not Hulk Hogan that going to betrayed WCW and be the mastermind behind nWo
You should do a video on the new day from there debut to when they got separated in the 2020 or 2022 draft
This era of WCW was a mess. I mean in storyline, I still have no idea why Hogan was the valiant babyface and Sting heel at the time. Before he got sidelined, Hogan did the most heinous things from the fingerpoke of doom, jumping Flair on his way to the arena, making David turn on Ric. Savage too was not safe and was flip-flopping from heel to face then to full heel when he won the title THEN lost it to Hogan a day after. Nash suddenly turned heel too. Like everyone was turning heel for some reason in the coming months starting from after DDP won the belt, it was ridiculous. Like did Hogan just told the bookers to turn everyone heel when he'll return as a face? And guess what, WCW fans bought into it until enough was enough in the Russo era
Sting is just too likeable and noble for him to be a heel. It's a tough sell to try to get people to boo him.
I felt like he had a legit axe to grind with WCW and didn't blame him or consider him a heel even though it was dubbed such.
As for the health factor, Sting due to his wrestling style (240 lb+ guy showing feats of strength to match most and flying like a cruiserweight) hag lagging injuries pretty much shortly after the early 90s, with at least three concussions, broken ribs and compromised knee to add to the list. It was his prime fitness, ditching drugs and healthy choices that led him to longevity and passing over those injuries. It was Sting's no contention factor however, and politics that led to botches (like 'Cade w. Hogan), loss to Goldberg (albeit one of the matches made Sting look good where Hogan interrupted a scorpion deathlock on Goldberg), and even Sting losing two in a row to Hart (even if it involved shortcuts or interference). WCW just never had that sense of self importance to let its prime star shine definitely in front of former WWE/WWF stars, whether it was a Prime Hart or whether it was a turtle speed Hogan. A shame, that was pointed out in then honest published editorials. Sting had even agreed selflessly to job to Muta, Rude and Sid, when WCW wanted it, and fans at each of those losses were never convinced. Bad decisions for WCW and of course, the outcome was eventually in front of the world.
He just got a run that was it lol we still loved him
You can tell he put minimum effort into the heel turn. He knew it was bad
Should've never happened.
Watched a few sting matches from 80-93ish but man he was so great. Never watched sting wrestle growing up. Crazy how sting was at first and to what he become with the goth vibes lol
The fans were NEVER going to boo Sting. Even more so than not booing Steve Austin after being Stone Cold. There's certain guys at certain points of their careers that are just untouchable and by the time of Fall Brawl 99 Sting had long reached that point.
Btw not a fan of short hair Crow Sting. Looks weird.
I also remember around mid 99 he would come out with white tape on his boots sometimes. Looked really odd to me as a kid.
Yeah the white tape on his boots was distracting. Looked like he was wearing spats for horse riding, LOL.
Do his heel turn in tna in 2010
Sting should have NEVER lost his world title at Halloween Havoc. That was BS
Simply Sting was the company saviour
The idea was to get revenge on Bret and hogan from 98. But it didn’t execute properly. Same with Goldberg’s heel turn
Hulk Hogan shouldn’t have turned face post-NwO
Well they did it again in WWE in 2002 with The Rock
Dark days of wcw late 1999 😢
Sting's run as a heel was interesting to say the least although I didn't like Luger messing with his head at times too!
Is it really a heel turn if the fans never accept that hes a heel? As far as im concerned, he didnt turn heel here. He just gave Hogan some extra comeuppance for the Hollywood Hogan days.
I think fans were tired of Hogan at that point. That’s why it backfired.
I know I'm in the minority, but looking back at this run.... I kinda feel bad for Hogan.
The company was falling apart, Hogan returns in Jay and was probably thinking the red and yellow is back, him and Sting are gonna restart the feud that turned the tide the first time ..... by Oct Hogan is physically falling apart, the fans had no intrest in booing Sting, and Russo basically tells him go home we have no use for you.
Are you going to do a 2008 triple h video
The heel didnt do anyone any favors especially considering WCW was a hot confusing mess in late 99- 2000. Sting was the one guy the WCW fanbase never turned on so how was anyone supposed to believe him as a bad guy
Sting's heel run was gold. Should have lasted longer.
Sting dropped off like mad, 97 most popular wrester in the world and never got close to that level after that, he was unmotivated and was barely in the mainevent.
It was the wrong decision to turn Sting Heel in WCW!
blame Vince Russo
@@EDifyer881 Russo didn't join WCW until after Fall Brawl
I think it could have been great if it wasn't poorly executed. You had legitimate history there they could have drawn from Sting's motives to turn heel and very simply.
I would think this would be obvious at this point, but Hogan originally betrayed Sting and wcw at Bash at the Beach 96 as his turn as Hollywood Hogan and the chaos that would ensued with the nWo.
I don't understand why they didn't use that simple detail to push Sting's heel turn "Revenge" plane and simple the whole time Sting held a grudge against Hogan and was simply pushing Hogan out of the spotlight that he was hogging for years.
It's frustrating because there were aspects about his short heel run that worked, but they blew it after a month.
Almost everyone that was babyface in wcw in 98 and 97 were heel in 99. Sting could have started a pre main event mafia with Luger, The Steiners, Bagwell, and DDP and them running roughshod on those who wronged them
When have fans EVER wanted to boo Sting? When had a heel Sting EVER worked? Russo and Bischoff tried this in WCW *and* TNA. The only time it kinda worked was the Main Event Mafia and he was STILL over to the point of turning Foley heel lol.
It was like heel Raod Warriors in 1988 - people liked them evil and wanted to go heel themselves.
This heel turn don't count because I watched it all go down and the fans cheered him the whole way which was kind of funny to see.
Sting heel turn ruin him until his run in tna in 2006
They messed up making him talk again (his mic skills where never bad) but I loved the silent version more 2nd turning him “heel” was pointless cause he was still cheered and last but not least putting him with the Wolfpack was the deal breaker
who wants to boo someone who comes out to seek and destroy ? and its sting, sting!
who wants to boo someone who comes out to Here Comes The Ax And Here Comes The Smasher. It took the WWF ages to cotton on and make Demolition babyfaces, in fact only once they had run out of face challengers were they turned face themselves instead of having them drop the belts.
Great telling of the tale.
Please do a Sting vs Luger feud video!!
which feud? 1989 for the US title? Sting winning the World title from Lex in '92? The fallout after Sting turned back to face never got anywhere before the big WCW reset in early 2000.
Sting in my top 5
Sting was always in the right and Bret was always right about Luger in regards to his friendship with Sting and how he and Bret were actually best friends.
Sting's heel run was terrible. It was a prime example of the creative mess that was WCW in 1999. The booking was messy, and the fans didn't want to boo Sting.
The fans liked Evil Sting and wanted to be evil too. Like with the Road Warriors in late '88. It did freshen things up and I think they should have stuck with it for longer rather than have him repent swiftly like he did.
I loved him being a heel 🤷🏿♂️
I noticed you said "stink" instead of "sting" in some instances or I'm hearing things.
Rick Steiner used to call him that in promos in 1988 when he was in the Varsity Club.
I noticed that and it reminded me of a shoot interview Luger did where he said he and the Steiners would call him "Stink" all the time on the road to the point of him throwing a strop and yelling "STOP CALLING ME 'STINK'!!!" 😡😫😭
It's crazy WCW still dead even Sting been there the whole time
I think at that time sting could have burned the place down and still got cheered 😂.
New thumbnail art?
Just for this one, I sometimes make alternate ones
WCW had HUGE stars at that point, but Russo is who killed it with bullshit like this. Garbage storylines, etc.
I always thought it was mistake to turn him heel in the first place. Im sure WCW then were trying to do something desperate to complete with WWE when it was WWF at the time in the Monday night Wars but as we knew Sting heel turn only lasted until Mayhem 99. This is almost to be that eventually happened to Stone Cold in 2001 with his Heel turn after WrestleMania 17 but Fans could not stand to hate him as he eventually turn back face. Same with Sting.
It created some interesting new situations and it took the edge of Sting's by then dated goody-two-shoes aura. once stgarted, they should have let it run for a while.
Sting is way better as a face than a heel. Don't think he was a full time heel, he was more neutral.
The idea was that Lex was the real heel, he had finally led Sting astray.
I personally rather enjoyed Sting's heel run like I enjoyed The Road Warriors' heel run in '88. Crowds didn't boo him but they liked the idea of him as an evil man. Like I said elsewhere, it freshened things up and introduced all sorts of interesting new situations - Sting and Luger the former top babyfaces as top heels, a babyface Flair versus a heel Sting and Luger, Hogan and Flair forming a Megapowers style babyface alliance, Sting as sly heel champion versus hot prospects Chris Benoit and Bret Hart.
I would have had the recently reunited Steiners form an alliance with Sting and Luger (DDP was unnecesy) and have them feud with a new Four Horsement of Flair, Benoit, Hart and Hulk Hogan with Arn Anderson as manager, leading to a War Games match. And I would have kept Sting as a heel for a year or so before getting him into a feud with another heel so as to slowly turn him back to babyface.
It could of been good, but wcw sept/oct 1999 had no chance
U need a better mic man, its so hard to listen too and i want too listen so bad. constantly popping in my ears too, compress the audio. please.
It’s Scorpion Deathlock, not Scorpion Deadlock.
And he didn't changed anything
Sting Goldberg should never been heel. Sting and Savage should never joined nwo not even Wolfpack
It was definitely horrible...what that shit last like 3 weeks? lmao
Stop saying Ming. It’s Meng.
Ming The Merciless.