my first sled was a Arctic cat ZR 440 with 600 EFI engine, and noticed that the skiies sucked for my riding conditions so i added boondok skiies to it and it did become a ok "cross over" sled. it worked pretty good off-trail even with the short track. tho it did start but the engine was "strange" i fixed the issues and the sled in total have cost me around 1200$ USD. i bought it for 700$ USD and due to the mods i made i did know what i kind of wanted and also needed due to the area i live in and ride in. So now i have a used real cross-over Lynx Xterrain 600R e-tec 2020 instead 🙂
I've only owned two older sleds in the past. Arctic Cat 340 Lynx II & Everest 440 that needed some work when we traded for it from my father in law. I've riden Skidoo Tundra 600 Ace machines at work...32" ski stance and 154" x 2" tracks. Lot of fun despite only having 60hp. This year we sping checked 2 BCxrs 154" x 2" 850 beasts. (38-40" ski stance with quick adjusters) I know its what Ivevalways wanted in a sled. My wife is a bit apprehensive. We're older so i don't see us doing what my wife calls sled ballet in the mountains. Just hope she gets used to the sled and doesn't want to sell it right away...sigh.
I’m a new rider just learning to ride in the mountain powder borrowed a buddies snowmobile a couple times last season. Just sold a couple dirt bikes and have about 10k to blow. Would you recommend a 155 or 165 track for a lighter rider? I weigh about 145 pounds. I have a lot of experience on machines with motors, but digging the sleds out all the time is a little harder for me being light I think.
Hi. new to this Totally looking to ride in the upper New york adriondaks Trail riding im 6,1 240 . Looking at ski do possibly 2015 2018 possibly any thoughts?
Hi Brent, I'll likely get back into snowmobiling after years out of the sport (I've moved back into snow country). Rode Arctic Cats, Polaris, Yamahas, and Ski-doo's back in the 1970's and 1980's (Didn't ride Johnsons, SkiRules, Raiders, etc.). I live in NE Oregon again in and around the Wallowa, Blue, and Elkhorn mountains where logging roads are abundant and ridge tops a favorite to climb, ride along, and sightsee. At 6'7" & 240 lbs., a gym rat, and 62 years old, I'm wondering if you have any rather tall colleagues who might have some insight as to best choices. The mountain sleds make a lot of sense, I love the idea of taller steering columns/ riser blocks for stand up riding, although the seats look really short in length. I watched your discussion on track length and that was quite helpful. I'm thinking something in the 2018 or a bit newer (so rather modern) Like you say, brand isn't critical, but there may be some extra insight you or others may have for the bigger fellas. Thanks.
First I want to say thank you for watching. Here is my opinion on your question: when it comes to handlebar risers I think people have a tendency to put one on that is too high. I prefer low bars for technical riding. Due to your height, you may want to go with a tall bar, (like a Polaris pro taper tall). You can add maybe an inch or two to that depending on comfort. But remember, you want to be in a good position on the sled, as well as have leverage on the bars for control: so don't go too high. I would go as low as possible while still maintaining comfort while standing. Aftermarket handlebar companies will have different riser heights and rise in bars as well so that would give you some more customization. (I would start lower and then you could add more height if you absolutely have to). When it comes to chassis, I tend to thing that the new ski-doo and the arctic cat allows your feet to sit further forward (that might help when sitting down) but for technical riding that might not be a big deal. The Matryx chassis, and the new ski doo chassis, have more space for the rider than say an Axys would. Plastics are pushed further forward. Something that I would recommend is going to your local dealer and sit on different brands and see what feels best for you. 2018 and newer they are all pretty good chassis's. Personally I recommend Polaris for what I do but you could be different. Don't be afraid to swing a leg over multiple before choosing and don't be afraid to switch out risers to get a comfortable rise. Remember it's preference it's not science. I hope that helped. If you need any other help reach out.
That is awesome you have been riding for that long! Ya I think if you have access to that and it fits what you want to do on the snow that would be an awesome setup.
Question for you since you seem knowledgeable. Need sleds for a multigenerational family. Mom, likes slow and safe. Dad,speed. Ranch and pleasure work. Location in Colorado and Utah. Multiple sleds, best quality and comfort. Not limited on budget. New only. What would you choose??? Thank you for your reply
@@TheMamaAmmah so what I would say is there are kind of two things I would think about. A sled that is made for work (for example doesn’t need a ton of snow to stay cool, has a wide track they pulls stuff a little better) is not going to be great at mountain riding not as much power not as agile different style track, etc. But if you got a pure mountain sled it might be hard to keep it cool and wouldn’t be as good at work. If you got something like a tundra it would be good at work and you could ride trails with it. It wouldn’t be a great sled for mountain riding in deep snow though. I would just weigh what is most important to you and then go to a local dealer and see what they have. Hopefully that helps, there’s not a clear answer for wanting a sled to do everything!
i can't find a used trail sled anywhere near me.all there are for sale used are mountain sleds which does me no good because i live on a huge lake and am surrounded by trails and forest service roads,so i guess i'm buying new.there is fuck all online about entry level trail sleds,unless i plan to buy the baddest machine out there i'm sol on finding the right budget/entry level full size sled.
Classic experienced rider. “Get whatever you want of the highest price and have fun.” Well, why do you think I’m watching this? I’m obviously interested in buying a sled and obviously don’t have a clue where to start (video labeled “for beginners”). Years to avoid? 4stroke vs 2stroke? Track length? Weight? Best price point for max value? Sure, brand new high end sleds are probably the best. What about the guy that “can” afford the fancy machine but is new and doesn’t need it? Like your buddy? Why didn’t you tell him to get a cheaper sled? Maybe, like me watching this video, he doesn’t want a garbage old school sled but can’t find any info on when garbage becomes decent and when decent becomes overpriced and overkill? Maybe I want some actual info? How many miles are too many miles? Maybe I’m trying to follow your advice and go buy a sled and have fun but get too overwhelmed by all the details out there not knowing what to look for so I just don’t buy a sled?
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my first sled was a Arctic cat ZR 440 with 600 EFI engine, and noticed that the skiies sucked for my riding conditions so i added boondok skiies to it and it did become a ok "cross over" sled. it worked pretty good off-trail even with the short track. tho it did start but the engine was "strange" i fixed the issues and the sled in total have cost me around 1200$ USD. i bought it for 700$ USD
and due to the mods i made i did know what i kind of wanted and also needed due to the area i live in and ride in.
So now i have a used real cross-over Lynx Xterrain 600R e-tec 2020 instead 🙂
I've only owned two older sleds in the past. Arctic Cat 340 Lynx II & Everest 440 that needed some work when we traded for it from my father in law.
I've riden Skidoo Tundra 600 Ace machines at work...32" ski stance and 154" x 2" tracks.
Lot of fun despite only having 60hp.
This year we sping checked 2 BCxrs 154" x 2" 850 beasts. (38-40" ski stance with quick adjusters)
I know its what Ivevalways wanted in a sled.
My wife is a bit apprehensive.
We're older so i don't see us doing what my wife calls sled ballet in the mountains.
Just hope she gets used to the sled and doesn't want to sell it right away...sigh.
I’m a new rider just learning to ride in the mountain powder borrowed a buddies snowmobile a couple times last season.
Just sold a couple dirt bikes and have about 10k to blow. Would you recommend a 155 or 165 track for a lighter rider? I weigh about 145 pounds. I have a lot of experience on machines with motors, but digging the sleds out all the time is a little harder for me being light I think.
definitely a 155 for a smaller person, a 165 can be bulky and massive for someone smaller
Hi. new to this Totally looking to ride in the upper New york adriondaks Trail riding im 6,1 240 . Looking at ski do possibly 2015 2018 possibly any thoughts?
Hi Brent,
I'll likely get back into snowmobiling after years out of the sport (I've moved back into snow country). Rode Arctic Cats, Polaris, Yamahas, and Ski-doo's back in the 1970's and 1980's (Didn't ride Johnsons, SkiRules, Raiders, etc.). I live in NE Oregon again in and around the Wallowa, Blue, and Elkhorn mountains where logging roads are abundant and ridge tops a favorite to climb, ride along, and sightsee. At 6'7" & 240 lbs., a gym rat, and 62 years old, I'm wondering if you have any rather tall colleagues who might have some insight as to best choices. The mountain sleds make a lot of sense, I love the idea of taller steering columns/ riser blocks for stand up riding, although the seats look really short in length. I watched your discussion on track length and that was quite helpful. I'm thinking something in the 2018 or a bit newer (so rather modern) Like you say, brand isn't critical, but there may be some extra insight you or others may have for the bigger fellas.
Thanks.
First I want to say thank you for watching. Here is my opinion on your question: when it comes to handlebar risers I think people have a tendency to put one on that is too high. I prefer low bars for technical riding. Due to your height, you may want to go with a tall bar, (like a Polaris pro taper tall). You can add maybe an inch or two to that depending on comfort. But remember, you want to be in a good position on the sled, as well as have leverage on the bars for control: so don't go too high. I would go as low as possible while still maintaining comfort while standing. Aftermarket handlebar companies will have different riser heights and rise in bars as well so that would give you some more customization. (I would start lower and then you could add more height if you absolutely have to).
When it comes to chassis, I tend to thing that the new ski-doo and the arctic cat allows your feet to sit further forward (that might help when sitting down) but for technical riding that might not be a big deal. The Matryx chassis, and the new ski doo chassis, have more space for the rider than say an Axys would. Plastics are pushed further forward. Something that I would recommend is going to your local dealer and sit on different brands and see what feels best for you. 2018 and newer they are all pretty good chassis's. Personally I recommend Polaris for what I do but you could be different. Don't be afraid to swing a leg over multiple before choosing and don't be afraid to switch out risers to get a comfortable rise. Remember it's preference it's not science. I hope that helped. If you need any other help reach out.
Thanks@@brentcook24! I appreciate your input and took notes (okay, I copied and pasted). Yep, I appreciated your video. Good information!
I have been riding since I was 3 and now I am 14 do you think I would be good on a 2019 summit 850 154
That is awesome you have been riding for that long! Ya I think if you have access to that and it fits what you want to do on the snow that would be an awesome setup.
Question for you since you seem knowledgeable.
Need sleds for a multigenerational family.
Mom, likes slow and safe. Dad,speed. Ranch and pleasure work. Location in Colorado and Utah.
Multiple sleds, best quality and comfort. Not limited on budget. New only. What would you choose??? Thank you for your reply
I just saw this, so are you wanting to ride mountains with it? Or would you say the most important thing is working and riding fields etc.?
@@brentcook24 Both. Work and play. Sorry, that is the answer. Although probably more towards the cattle ranching Montana winter ranching side.
@@TheMamaAmmah so what I would say is there are kind of two things I would think about. A sled that is made for work (for example doesn’t need a ton of snow to stay cool, has a wide track they pulls stuff a little better) is not going to be great at mountain riding not as much power not as agile different style track, etc. But if you got a pure mountain sled it might be hard to keep it cool and wouldn’t be as good at work. If you got something like a tundra it would be good at work and you could ride trails with it. It wouldn’t be a great sled for mountain riding in deep snow though. I would just weigh what is most important to you and then go to a local dealer and see what they have. Hopefully that helps, there’s not a clear answer for wanting a sled to do everything!
@@brentcook24 thank you very much!!
i can't find a used trail sled anywhere near me.all there are for sale used are mountain sleds which does me no good because i live on a huge lake and am surrounded by trails and forest service roads,so i guess i'm buying new.there is fuck all online about entry level trail sleds,unless i plan to buy the baddest machine out there i'm sol on finding the right budget/entry level full size sled.
Classic experienced rider. “Get whatever you want of the highest price and have fun.”
Well, why do you think I’m watching this? I’m obviously interested in buying a sled and obviously don’t have a clue where to start (video labeled “for beginners”).
Years to avoid? 4stroke vs 2stroke? Track length? Weight? Best price point for max value?
Sure, brand new high end sleds are probably the best. What about the guy that “can” afford the fancy machine but is new and doesn’t need it? Like your buddy? Why didn’t you tell him to get a cheaper sled? Maybe, like me watching this video, he doesn’t want a garbage old school sled but can’t find any info on when garbage becomes decent and when decent becomes overpriced and overkill? Maybe I want some actual info?
How many miles are too many miles? Maybe I’m trying to follow your advice and go buy a sled and have fun but get too overwhelmed by all the details out there not knowing what to look for so I just don’t buy a sled?
can't listen to this due to the annoying "music". I just don't get why people do that.
I appreciate you watching.