It sorta makes sense: if you walk towards Ukiki, they maintain distance by also walking instead of running away. Without it Ukiki would "stutter run" away where they're close enough one frame but not for a few after that. The animation would look super odd, and making Ukiki proportional to Mario fixes that. But obviously this was never intended for Mario moving at BLJ speeds.
After such a long time, it's finally possible to grab that heccin' monkey without pressing B. I can't tell you the relief I feel from watching this video.
Pannenkoek in 50 years: The A Button Challenge: How many A presses does it take to beat SM64? Well, most stars aren't affeccted from restricting the A button, so showing a separate video for every star wouldn't be very interesting. Thus, here's one video on the entirety of the A button challenge, showing which A presses are unavoidable and what workarounds exist for A presses that are avoidable.
I literally yelled aloud when I realized you were freeing ukiki without a B press. That solution is both brilliant and total munchkiny nonsense and I love it.
The last 2 B button saves were July 28, 2021, and July 17, 2021. The last two A button saves were on July 20, *2019,* and October 20, *2018.* Edit: This comment is now outdated, but it was funny at the time, I promise.
@@davinchristino Well, "has developed" fast. It seems like nobody has ideas for any remaining B presses. The remaining presses are grabs that have to be punches, and Mips that has nothing around to do a dive grab (even if you could somehow utilize the outdoor cannon, it requires 120 stars). I guess the only way to save presses would be finding a way to loot King Bob-omb's star without fighting him somehow, find a way to glitch bowser into a defeated state or some kind of credits warp, or find another way to do a b-less grab that also works on mips.
Didn't you guys just improve this with the WMotR cannonless strat? This run is developing more quickly than it has in years. Edit: there you happy now?
@@IUndercoverTroll pretty sure that's what they were referring to since the previous upload didn't have the monkey strat. And yeah, it can't have been more than a couple weeks since the previous update.
I thought about that. It would be hard to map out because which buttons have a priority? And what if there's one option for pressing A which can also work for pressing B or Z?
@@dragonmanover9000 In almost all cases I'd say a single A press carries far more power than a B or Z press, strategies like cloning can require dozens of B presses whereas 1-2 jumps would easily clear the stage
I thought I was on crack thinking I'd watched this before, then I realized ukiki has finally been defeated. It's crazy what strats can be used to solve things like that.
Really impressed that you guys finally managed to get Ukiki out of that box. I think the B Button Challenge has been perfected at this point; I don't see any way the remaining B presses could be saved, unless arbitrary code execution or wrong warps are discovered. Congratulations!
The monkey has finally been freed from the mountaintop, and all we had to do was get them to go ludicrously fast with a fly guy. In all seriousness, you and Nim did a fantastic job with the TAS! Great work!
In an alternate universe, a channel called UncommentatedWafel focuses entirely on the B button challenge and has a one-off video about the A button challenge.
I've been watching this ukiki clip with my mouth wide open, I swear all these years I thought it would be impossible to grab him without pressing B, it feels like I'm watching history
So freakin cool. I remember the original video over this star thinking it had the most potential to be saved, and now it's done So really it's everything now except Bowser, King Bob Omb, and MIPS. Incredible
So we’re down to grabbing Bowser, grabbing King Bob-omb, grabbing MIPS, and talking to Toad. Grabbing MIPS seems to be the only thing that isn’t hard-coded to require the B-button. Grabbing MIPS would be like grabbing Ukiki except that the tools to grab things exist in TTM and not downstairs. So, is it time to declare victory?
I watch you since you first published the first B button challenge video, and its been an honor to finally see the Mystery of the Monkey Cage finally being completed 0B. Congratulations to both of you! And thank you!
I could’ve sworn I was tripping having watched some rendition of this video like 3 different times over the last like couple weeks. But I was never paying enough attention to notice the new strats. So FINALLY with this version I looked at the comments before watching. Because either I was oblivious to some long-con meme in the community or I was oblivious to some amazing strat development, but I was gonna figure it out this time. And can I just say, holy crap. This is amazing that so many developments have been made I think literally just this year. Like I knew Ukiki would be broken eventually, but I swear I remember people talking about it being “definitely the next one to fall” for YEARS (used to be a big fan and viewer of SM64 TAS and speedrun years ago and only recently coming back to it, also WMotR fell first, if I’m remembering and reading the comments correctly? That’s also incredible). I’m so impressed to see mechanics and barriers like this finally falling in games! Props to nim and pannen for the Ukiki strat development and TASing, this is beautiful.
Eventually you won't have to press any buttons to beat this game. You'll just look at the console sternly and it'll beat itself. Then you'll start working on a challenge to beat it without even needing that.
The most astonishing part of that video is however that you can actually knock down that plank in WF. I've played that game for 25 years without knowing that.
11:49 you can also enter the level with the high level water setting and go to the cage, jump out of the water and ledge grab onto the cage. Edit: here is footage of me doing it m.ruclips.net/video/QdtNG8JliaI/видео.html
I'd love to see some analysis of a "Minimum Button Presses" challenge, seeing how many A, B (C and Start) presses each star takes cumulatively. Finding strats that avoid two B presses in favor of a single A press, as an example puzzle, could be fun. It simultaneously gives access to every technique in the game, while still providing difficulty by making you choose which one to use where. Edit: I've been made aware of the minimum button press challenge Pannenkoek helped out with, and that certainly was exactly what I was looking for; except it was about 70 star instead of 120 star. Comparing 70 star ABC to 120 star ABC makes a world of difference, as it would for this challenge.
The way you avoid some B buttons are so funny. Like, we were talking about how to avoid pressing B to throw Bowser in the first fight, then all of a sudden we are shown the moat and doing PU movements there lol
Very helpful description to see what's new. I really admire your executive skills and it takes a lot of that to plan, problem solve, analyze and showcase what you do in a video. You're incredible!
Thanks for clarifying the update in the direction! So Ukkiki continues to be an annoyance, making Mario climb a mountain multiple times just to get him to open a cage.
Wow so is that it? I almost can’t imagine another way to save any more of those B presses. All of the grabs for mips and the bosses are pretty essential.
babe, wake up. Pannen is seldomly pressing B again.
BBC, if new stuff is found, that'd be BBC news
Wherein we jumpscare the poor monke so quickly that it leaves the safety of its mountaintop.
When we gain so much speed we can gift it to the monkey and phase him through a fence against his will
Wonder what happens if you "accidentally" drop Ukiki off the mountain.
Probably nothing.
@@FFKonoko Ukiki is the new Koopa the Quick
Wow, that Ukiki strat is incredible.
oh hi there
huh, fancy seeing you here
It's insanely brilliant.
I agree!
came here to comment about it lol
it's prob the most impressive strat I've seen in any game in years
The revelation that Ukiki's speed is proportional was such an eye opener)
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@A C en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses
Well, Neoxus30), hear me out.
hello friend
*You see, Ukiki's speed is proportional to Mario's*
Excuse me **what**
It sorta makes sense: if you walk towards Ukiki, they maintain distance by also walking instead of running away.
Without it Ukiki would "stutter run" away where they're close enough one frame but not for a few after that. The animation would look super odd, and making Ukiki proportional to Mario fixes that.
But obviously this was never intended for Mario moving at BLJ speeds.
Ukiki's the only one who can chase Mario to the PU.
After such a long time, it's finally possible to grab that heccin' monkey without pressing B. I can't tell you the relief I feel from watching this video.
Garfield is tired of Ukiki's shit
I read that as money for a second and now I can't get the image of a gangster Mario holding a money bag out of my head lmao
It's incredible that you got the solution for the b press with nim on the monkey cage! You always amaze me pannen
Sometimes the only way forward is to take two steps to the right.
@@Luckingsworth or move faster than the speed of light
@@Luckingsworth Sometimes, the only way forward is to put nim on the monkey cage!
Pannenkoek in 50 years:
The A Button Challenge:
How many A presses does it take to beat SM64?
Well, most stars aren't affeccted from restricting the A button, so showing a separate video for every star wouldn't be very interesting.
Thus, here's one video on the entirety of the A button challenge, showing which A presses are unavoidable and what workarounds exist for A presses that are avoidable.
But he si making series of 0x A presses-
@@fan0 r/woosh
@@trionhd7223 Bruh, I only said he is making already this, don't r/woosh me
@@fan0 this is some hard wooshing here lmfao 😂
@@fan0 i have no idea what they're talking about, because it's actually woooosh (with 4 o's)
Join us next month when another B Press is saved
okay skazzy
Okay SuperM789
Ok, LalitoTV
God I hope so
which one could possibly be aved?
I literally yelled aloud when I realized you were freeing ukiki without a B press. That solution is both brilliant and total munchkiny nonsense and I love it.
The last 2 B button saves were July 28, 2021, and July 17, 2021. The last two A button saves were on July 20, *2019,* and October 20, *2018.*
Edit: This comment is now outdated, but it was funny at the time, I promise.
The last 2 B button saves were July 28th 2021 and July 17th 2021.
@@lordsnek sorry, I was just looking at the dates of Pannen’s videos
Wow this run is developing fast
@@davinchristino Well, "has developed" fast. It seems like nobody has ideas for any remaining B presses. The remaining presses are grabs that have to be punches, and Mips that has nothing around to do a dive grab (even if you could somehow utilize the outdoor cannon, it requires 120 stars). I guess the only way to save presses would be finding a way to loot King Bob-omb's star without fighting him somehow, find a way to glitch bowser into a defeated state or some kind of credits warp, or find another way to do a b-less grab that also works on mips.
@@BaufenBeast Or find a way to bypass the 2nd bowser fight?
I’m so happy that the B-less strat for Ukiki ended up including him escaping his little area, it’s such a cool piece of trivia about that level
$1000 to save one b button off of a star.... pannen doesn't play around at all 😳
how did pannen get $1000 to spare... i couldnt spare $20 comfortably lmao
@@brianpso oh really? idk why i thought he was still in uni
@@olipolygon he's been tasing this game for over a decade now
@@leftysheppey im old, let me live 😭
@@olipolygon its called having a job
Didn't you guys just improve this with the WMotR cannonless strat? This run is developing more quickly than it has in years.
Edit: there you happy now?
@@joshuashoup4261 just needed pannen to put a bounty on it lmao
@@nim64 true hahahaha. Worked for 120 too
@@joshuashoup4261 lol true. bounties are clearly the answer to all of life's problems
@Jo Seph GD "we"? What do you mean "we"? This is not your work lol.
its not yours either kevin
that ukiki manip is one of the most genius and creative strats i have seen in a while
I imagine the Ukiki Speed strat evolved from someone at some point saying "Just have him BLJ out 4head"
*Watched the video before.*
*Skipped to the end to see if the total B presses is the same.*
It isn't.
*Watches the video again*
i swear ive seen this video like 3 times before
LOVE getting pannen videos. feels like going to class but actually liking it
there's something so neat about hearing all the weird nuances about super mario 64
Pannen's a science channel for gaming.
Thats how I feel!
I really love how, instead of deleting the older versions, he keeps them up for historical value of how far we've come in learning new tricks and shit
Pannenkoek was _almost_ right on Ukko having the most potential to a saved B press. WMotR just arrived first.
The B Button Challenge, also known as Mario BBC
Damn, Pannen's loaded, 1000$ for a B button
That Ukiki strat is so unbelievably cool. Well done nim and pannen!
Dude, you improved this so fast! Wasn’t it like, a couple weeks ago that you demonstrated how hard it was to do the Monkey Cage?
This is actually a re-re-upload of an earlier video.
@@IUndercoverTroll pretty sure that's what they were referring to since the previous upload didn't have the monkey strat. And yeah, it can't have been more than a couple weeks since the previous update.
He did say that the monkey cage star was the most likely next b-press save.
@@IUndercoverTroll you didn’t watch past the first few minutes the
it was TAS
Unavoidable B press: throwing baby penguin off the cliff.
You can use Z to drop her off the cliff.
Can't wait for "The Button Challenge" video; how do we beat the game with the fewest buttons in general?
Joystick abuse
Text boxes though
I thought about that. It would be hard to map out because which buttons have a priority? And what if there's one option for pressing A which can also work for pressing B or Z?
I was thinking that could be the sequel to the a button challenge. Just use as few buttons as possible
@@dragonmanover9000 In almost all cases I'd say a single A press carries far more power than a B or Z press, strategies like cloning can require dozens of B presses whereas 1-2 jumps would easily clear the stage
I thought I was on crack thinking I'd watched this before, then I realized ukiki has finally been defeated. It's crazy what strats can be used to solve things like that.
Really impressed that you guys finally managed to get Ukiki out of that box. I think the B Button Challenge has been perfected at this point; I don't see any way the remaining B presses could be saved, unless arbitrary code execution or wrong warps are discovered. Congratulations!
I thought I had seen this, then checked description
Cheers for the info for clarifying the new Ukiki strat there
reason for reupload is 4:06
The monkey has finally been freed from the mountaintop, and all we had to do was get them to go ludicrously fast with a fly guy.
In all seriousness, you and Nim did a fantastic job with the TAS! Great work!
Soon, we will be able to beat Super Mario 64 through mental thought alone.
In an alternate universe, a channel called UncommentatedWafel focuses entirely on the B button challenge and has a one-off video about the A button challenge.
I've been watching this ukiki clip with my mouth wide open, I swear all these years I thought it would be impossible to grab him without pressing B, it feels like I'm watching history
I gasped out loud at that Ukiki strat. Brilliant.
So freakin cool. I remember the original video over this star thinking it had the most potential to be saved, and now it's done
So really it's everything now except Bowser, King Bob Omb, and MIPS. Incredible
Also toad (for J)
That new Ukiki strat is insane!
"BBC" is an unfortunate name
Yeah, it's really a shame to associate this challenge with the British Broadcasting Corporation
@@MariaNicolaeI thought it was Bangkok Bank of Commerce????
wow, the monkey cage strat is amazing! and thanks for linking nim's explanation video in the description.
So we’re down to grabbing Bowser, grabbing King Bob-omb, grabbing MIPS, and talking to Toad. Grabbing MIPS seems to be the only thing that isn’t hard-coded to require the B-button. Grabbing MIPS would be like grabbing Ukiki except that the tools to grab things exist in TTM and not downstairs.
So, is it time to declare victory?
5:45 this is artwork dude what. you are a wizard
well-placed IN D E E E ED.
the whole thing, indeed.
6:43 in the nuclear future, PU-ing the mountain is easier to just ask the PU bot how to do
That Ukiki strat is why I watch this channel. Awesome stuff ❤️
And so the B button challenge ends. There is nothing left to save. Everything else is impossible.
Good work! Your job is done.
It’s cool watching the improvements of this challenge run. Thanks for documenting it for those of us who don’t understand the technical side.
That technique for Ukiki is insane!
the real update was the removal of getting on top of the castle roof
the epic saga
THEY DID IT, BOYS. THEY GOT UKIKI B-LESS. *LET’S. FUCKING. GO.*
I watch you since you first published the first B button challenge video, and its been an honor to finally see the Mystery of the Monkey Cage finally being completed 0B. Congratulations to both of you! And thank you!
Guy pays 1000$ after recieving help to warp the the physics of monkey displacement
I could’ve sworn I was tripping having watched some rendition of this video like 3 different times over the last like couple weeks. But I was never paying enough attention to notice the new strats. So FINALLY with this version I looked at the comments before watching. Because either I was oblivious to some long-con meme in the community or I was oblivious to some amazing strat development, but I was gonna figure it out this time. And can I just say, holy crap. This is amazing that so many developments have been made I think literally just this year. Like I knew Ukiki would be broken eventually, but I swear I remember people talking about it being “definitely the next one to fall” for YEARS (used to be a big fan and viewer of SM64 TAS and speedrun years ago and only recently coming back to it, also WMotR fell first, if I’m remembering and reading the comments correctly? That’s also incredible). I’m so impressed to see mechanics and barriers like this finally falling in games! Props to nim and pannen for the Ukiki strat development and TASing, this is beautiful.
everybody gangsta till pannen pulls out the PU map
I just noticed why the a button challenge is called the ABC, but the b button challenge isn't called the BBC
Eventually you won't have to press any buttons to beat this game. You'll just look at the console sternly and it'll beat itself. Then you'll start working on a challenge to beat it without even needing that.
Man, when I hear that file select music in your videos it puts a smile on my face every time.
This was an incredible watch, love your work.
This is as hype as saving an A-press
10:40 that was the best and the forever best flying ever done.
Okay the monkey stopped being a problem
Basically the same energy as lowering Stomp on the Thwomp from 3x A presses down to 2x
And now it only takes 1x.
@@quinn7894 And now it takes 0x
@@turtle19_ I think we have to take a moment to appreciate the fact that the most vertical star can be collected with no A presses.
The most astonishing part of that video is however that you can actually knock down that plank in WF. I've played that game for 25 years without knowing that.
First koopa is banished to the shadow realm with hyper speed, now ukiki is freed with hyper speed.
11:49 you can also enter the level with the high level water setting and go to the cage, jump out of the water and ledge grab onto the cage.
Edit: here is footage of me doing it
m.ruclips.net/video/QdtNG8JliaI/видео.html
Yep! That's how I enter the tunnel, too.
I'd love to see some analysis of a "Minimum Button Presses" challenge, seeing how many A, B (C and Start) presses each star takes cumulatively. Finding strats that avoid two B presses in favor of a single A press, as an example puzzle, could be fun. It simultaneously gives access to every technique in the game, while still providing difficulty by making you choose which one to use where.
Edit: I've been made aware of the minimum button press challenge Pannenkoek helped out with, and that certainly was exactly what I was looking for; except it was about 70 star instead of 120 star. Comparing 70 star ABC to 120 star ABC makes a world of difference, as it would for this challenge.
Here early, and I'm loving the possibilities, thanks for the updated educational content Pannen 😄
NO WAY IT GOT IMPROVED AGAIN?
I feel like I've seen this video "B"fore.
Thanks Nim!
This strat looks like a ridiculous theorycrafted basketball trickshot from the roof or something, I love it!
The way you avoid some B buttons are so funny. Like, we were talking about how to avoid pressing B to throw Bowser in the first fight, then all of a sudden we are shown the moat and doing PU movements there lol
Very helpful description to see what's new. I really admire your executive skills and it takes a lot of that to plan, problem solve, analyze and showcase what you do in a video. You're incredible!
Traveling to another universe just avoid a B press
what do you know, i subscribed 15 minutes ago and there’s a new video already. you are my current obsession
This is how to do 0 B presses: bind the b button to another button so youre not pressing B.
I never thought I’d see the day where both the upwarp and 0B monkey are both solved
That new strat is one of the coolest things i’ve ever seen
"Thus, there is only one video on the entirety of the B button challenge"
*Also posts 3 videos*
lmao hi vexxter
TTM2 needs its own video
So happy you were able to find a way to get the monkey-- finding the strat so soon too! What a surprise treat of a video!
Panen proves that lawful chaotic is a very real alignment.
I thought I might have stumbled upon a groundhogs day loop by accident, but nah, just more cool stuff being found.
At 7:38 approximately how many Gs of force did mario withstand with no issues at this speed
I had a feeling this would happen pretty soon after the last update. Very cool!
Your passion for this game is inspiring
7:20 When all that work comes together, it's actually beautiful.
The insanity people go through for the sake of pressing a specific button as little as possible is insane.
I swear I saw this updated before, or was it the A button challenge?
Edit: Nvm, it was the CCC challenge
no you were right ruclips.net/video/Ex0MXY55s5Q/видео.html
it was this challenge that was updated most recently
It was both CCC and B button
Pretty much all challenge videos have a copy of them
If it's the last B press to ever be saved, what a way to go out
Holy moly, Ukiki 0x B Presses real 😳
That was an incredible B button save! I remember seeing the original video wondering if it were actually possible
(And thanks to me for TASing the fly guy manipulation.)
👍
you never cease to amaze me
Still never ceasing
Wow, this was so clever. Congrats to nim for coming up with the idea and of course Pannen for TASing. Great stuff!
Great job with the new ukiki tas pannen!!!!!! Jesus its so exciting whenever new skips come up but this one was something special
Some of these B presses need the unmatched power of the sun to be avoided
Crazy shit. You freed ukiki. Holy hell.
who would've thought the monkey just needed a strong smack
Thanks for clarifying the update in the direction!
So Ukkiki continues to be an annoyance, making Mario climb a mountain multiple times just to get him to open a cage.
11:48 -- Or doing a high jump into the WDW painting, swimming to the tunnel, and doing a ledge grab.
Son dropped a stack just to save a B-press… dedication to the craft
Wow so is that it? I almost can’t imagine another way to save any more of those B presses. All of the grabs for mips and the bosses are pretty essential.
Wow! Congrats to you and nim for developing the Ukiki strat, that's awesome