It sorta makes sense: if you walk towards Ukiki, they maintain distance by also walking instead of running away. Without it Ukiki would "stutter run" away where they're close enough one frame but not for a few after that. The animation would look super odd, and making Ukiki proportional to Mario fixes that. But obviously this was never intended for Mario moving at BLJ speeds.
After such a long time, it's finally possible to grab that heccin' monkey without pressing B. I can't tell you the relief I feel from watching this video.
Pannenkoek in 50 years: The A Button Challenge: How many A presses does it take to beat SM64? Well, most stars aren't affeccted from restricting the A button, so showing a separate video for every star wouldn't be very interesting. Thus, here's one video on the entirety of the A button challenge, showing which A presses are unavoidable and what workarounds exist for A presses that are avoidable.
I literally yelled aloud when I realized you were freeing ukiki without a B press. That solution is both brilliant and total munchkiny nonsense and I love it.
The last 2 B button saves were July 28, 2021, and July 17, 2021. The last two A button saves were on July 20, *2019,* and October 20, *2018.* Edit: This comment is now outdated, but it was funny at the time, I promise.
@@davinchristino Well, "has developed" fast. It seems like nobody has ideas for any remaining B presses. The remaining presses are grabs that have to be punches, and Mips that has nothing around to do a dive grab (even if you could somehow utilize the outdoor cannon, it requires 120 stars). I guess the only way to save presses would be finding a way to loot King Bob-omb's star without fighting him somehow, find a way to glitch bowser into a defeated state or some kind of credits warp, or find another way to do a b-less grab that also works on mips.
Didn't you guys just improve this with the WMotR cannonless strat? This run is developing more quickly than it has in years. Edit: there you happy now?
I thought about that. It would be hard to map out because which buttons have a priority? And what if there's one option for pressing A which can also work for pressing B or Z?
@@dragonmanover9000 In almost all cases I'd say a single A press carries far more power than a B or Z press, strategies like cloning can require dozens of B presses whereas 1-2 jumps would easily clear the stage
@@IUndercoverTroll pretty sure that's what they were referring to since the previous upload didn't have the monkey strat. And yeah, it can't have been more than a couple weeks since the previous update.
Really impressed that you guys finally managed to get Ukiki out of that box. I think the B Button Challenge has been perfected at this point; I don't see any way the remaining B presses could be saved, unless arbitrary code execution or wrong warps are discovered. Congratulations!
The monkey has finally been freed from the mountaintop, and all we had to do was get them to go ludicrously fast with a fly guy. In all seriousness, you and Nim did a fantastic job with the TAS! Great work!
I thought I was on crack thinking I'd watched this before, then I realized ukiki has finally been defeated. It's crazy what strats can be used to solve things like that.
So freakin cool. I remember the original video over this star thinking it had the most potential to be saved, and now it's done So really it's everything now except Bowser, King Bob Omb, and MIPS. Incredible
In an alternate universe, a channel called UncommentatedWafel focuses entirely on the B button challenge and has a one-off video about the A button challenge.
I've been watching this ukiki clip with my mouth wide open, I swear all these years I thought it would be impossible to grab him without pressing B, it feels like I'm watching history
I could’ve sworn I was tripping having watched some rendition of this video like 3 different times over the last like couple weeks. But I was never paying enough attention to notice the new strats. So FINALLY with this version I looked at the comments before watching. Because either I was oblivious to some long-con meme in the community or I was oblivious to some amazing strat development, but I was gonna figure it out this time. And can I just say, holy crap. This is amazing that so many developments have been made I think literally just this year. Like I knew Ukiki would be broken eventually, but I swear I remember people talking about it being “definitely the next one to fall” for YEARS (used to be a big fan and viewer of SM64 TAS and speedrun years ago and only recently coming back to it, also WMotR fell first, if I’m remembering and reading the comments correctly? That’s also incredible). I’m so impressed to see mechanics and barriers like this finally falling in games! Props to nim and pannen for the Ukiki strat development and TASing, this is beautiful.
I watch you since you first published the first B button challenge video, and its been an honor to finally see the Mystery of the Monkey Cage finally being completed 0B. Congratulations to both of you! And thank you!
The way you avoid some B buttons are so funny. Like, we were talking about how to avoid pressing B to throw Bowser in the first fight, then all of a sudden we are shown the moat and doing PU movements there lol
So we’re down to grabbing Bowser, grabbing King Bob-omb, grabbing MIPS, and talking to Toad. Grabbing MIPS seems to be the only thing that isn’t hard-coded to require the B-button. Grabbing MIPS would be like grabbing Ukiki except that the tools to grab things exist in TTM and not downstairs. So, is it time to declare victory?
Very helpful description to see what's new. I really admire your executive skills and it takes a lot of that to plan, problem solve, analyze and showcase what you do in a video. You're incredible!
The most astonishing part of that video is however that you can actually knock down that plank in WF. I've played that game for 25 years without knowing that.
11:49 you can also enter the level with the high level water setting and go to the cage, jump out of the water and ledge grab onto the cage. Edit: here is footage of me doing it m.ruclips.net/video/QdtNG8JliaI/видео.html
Eventually you won't have to press any buttons to beat this game. You'll just look at the console sternly and it'll beat itself. Then you'll start working on a challenge to beat it without even needing that.
I love seeing games get cracked open like this. And it genuinely feels like anyone who does challenge videos like "IS IT POSSIBLE TO BEAT SONIC 1 WITHOUT COLLECTING A SINGLE RING?!?" is just trying to piggyback off of the genuinely inspiring work put through to get this to happen. I have no beef with them, but everything they talk about isn't as creative as "Let's reposition this fly guy to a very particular point so that we can BLJ off of it in order to let a monkey escape from a fence" kind of creative. It's awe inspiring
Its more just an example of how developed SM64 is as a challenge game, things like avoiding coins are classic challenges being worked on even in SM64, its just that many games lack A: the life long community of SM64, and B: The absolute nonsense that is SM64 Physics
I'd love to see some analysis of a "Minimum Button Presses" challenge, seeing how many A, B (C and Start) presses each star takes cumulatively. Finding strats that avoid two B presses in favor of a single A press, as an example puzzle, could be fun. It simultaneously gives access to every technique in the game, while still providing difficulty by making you choose which one to use where. Edit: I've been made aware of the minimum button press challenge Pannenkoek helped out with, and that certainly was exactly what I was looking for; except it was about 70 star instead of 120 star. Comparing 70 star ABC to 120 star ABC makes a world of difference, as it would for this challenge.
babe, wake up. Pannen is seldomly pressing B again.
Wow, that Ukiki strat is incredible.
oh hi there
huh, fancy seeing you here
It's insanely brilliant.
I agree!
came here to comment about it lol
it's prob the most impressive strat I've seen in any game in years
The revelation that Ukiki's speed is proportional was such an eye opener)
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@A C en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses
Well, Neoxus30), hear me out.
hello friend
Wherein we jumpscare the poor monke so quickly that it leaves the safety of its mountaintop.
When we gain so much speed we can gift it to the monkey and phase him through a fence against his will
Wonder what happens if you "accidentally" drop Ukiki off the mountain.
Probably nothing.
@@FFKonoko Ukiki is the new Koopa the Quick
*You see, Ukiki's speed is proportional to Mario's*
Excuse me **what**
It sorta makes sense: if you walk towards Ukiki, they maintain distance by also walking instead of running away.
Without it Ukiki would "stutter run" away where they're close enough one frame but not for a few after that. The animation would look super odd, and making Ukiki proportional to Mario fixes that.
But obviously this was never intended for Mario moving at BLJ speeds.
Ukiki's the only one who can chase Mario to the PU.
After such a long time, it's finally possible to grab that heccin' monkey without pressing B. I can't tell you the relief I feel from watching this video.
Garfield is tired of Ukiki's shit
I read that as money for a second and now I can't get the image of a gangster Mario holding a money bag out of my head lmao
It's incredible that you got the solution for the b press with nim on the monkey cage! You always amaze me pannen
Sometimes the only way forward is to take two steps to the right.
@@Luckingsworth or move faster than the speed of light
@@Luckingsworth Sometimes, the only way forward is to put nim on the monkey cage!
Pannenkoek in 50 years:
The A Button Challenge:
How many A presses does it take to beat SM64?
Well, most stars aren't affeccted from restricting the A button, so showing a separate video for every star wouldn't be very interesting.
Thus, here's one video on the entirety of the A button challenge, showing which A presses are unavoidable and what workarounds exist for A presses that are avoidable.
But he si making series of 0x A presses-
@@fan0 r/woosh
@@trionhd7223 Bruh, I only said he is making already this, don't r/woosh me
@@fan0 this is some hard wooshing here lmfao 😂
@@fan0 i have no idea what they're talking about, because it's actually woooosh (with 4 o's)
I literally yelled aloud when I realized you were freeing ukiki without a B press. That solution is both brilliant and total munchkiny nonsense and I love it.
The last 2 B button saves were July 28, 2021, and July 17, 2021. The last two A button saves were on July 20, *2019,* and October 20, *2018.*
Edit: This comment is now outdated, but it was funny at the time, I promise.
The last 2 B button saves were July 28th 2021 and July 17th 2021.
@@lordsnek sorry, I was just looking at the dates of Pannen’s videos
Wow this run is developing fast
@@davinchristino Well, "has developed" fast. It seems like nobody has ideas for any remaining B presses. The remaining presses are grabs that have to be punches, and Mips that has nothing around to do a dive grab (even if you could somehow utilize the outdoor cannon, it requires 120 stars). I guess the only way to save presses would be finding a way to loot King Bob-omb's star without fighting him somehow, find a way to glitch bowser into a defeated state or some kind of credits warp, or find another way to do a b-less grab that also works on mips.
@@BaufenBeast Or find a way to bypass the 2nd bowser fight?
I’m so happy that the B-less strat for Ukiki ended up including him escaping his little area, it’s such a cool piece of trivia about that level
Join us next month when another B Press is saved
okay skazzy
Okay SuperM789
Ok, LalitoTV
God I hope so
which one could possibly be aved?
Didn't you guys just improve this with the WMotR cannonless strat? This run is developing more quickly than it has in years.
Edit: there you happy now?
@@joshuashoup4261 just needed pannen to put a bounty on it lmao
@@nim64 true hahahaha. Worked for 120 too
@@joshuashoup4261 lol true. bounties are clearly the answer to all of life's problems
@Jo Seph GD "we"? What do you mean "we"? This is not your work lol.
its not yours either kevin
$1000 to save one b button off of a star.... pannen doesn't play around at all 😳
how did pannen get $1000 to spare... i couldnt spare $20 comfortably lmao
@@brianpso oh really? idk why i thought he was still in uni
@@olipolygon he's been tasing this game for over a decade now
@@leftysheppey im old, let me live 😭
@@olipolygon its called having a job
that ukiki manip is one of the most genius and creative strats i have seen in a while
I imagine the Ukiki Speed strat evolved from someone at some point saying "Just have him BLJ out 4head"
LOVE getting pannen videos. feels like going to class but actually liking it
there's something so neat about hearing all the weird nuances about super mario 64
Pannen's a science channel for gaming.
Thats how I feel!
That Ukiki strat is so unbelievably cool. Well done nim and pannen!
I really love how, instead of deleting the older versions, he keeps them up for historical value of how far we've come in learning new tricks and shit
i swear ive seen this video like 3 times before
Can't wait for "The Button Challenge" video; how do we beat the game with the fewest buttons in general?
Joystick abuse
Text boxes though
I thought about that. It would be hard to map out because which buttons have a priority? And what if there's one option for pressing A which can also work for pressing B or Z?
I was thinking that could be the sequel to the a button challenge. Just use as few buttons as possible
@@dragonmanover9000 In almost all cases I'd say a single A press carries far more power than a B or Z press, strategies like cloning can require dozens of B presses whereas 1-2 jumps would easily clear the stage
reason for reupload is 4:06
Dude, you improved this so fast! Wasn’t it like, a couple weeks ago that you demonstrated how hard it was to do the Monkey Cage?
This is actually a re-re-upload of an earlier video.
@@IUndercoverTroll pretty sure that's what they were referring to since the previous upload didn't have the monkey strat. And yeah, it can't have been more than a couple weeks since the previous update.
He did say that the monkey cage star was the most likely next b-press save.
@@IUndercoverTroll you didn’t watch past the first few minutes the
it was TAS
*Watched the video before.*
*Skipped to the end to see if the total B presses is the same.*
It isn't.
*Watches the video again*
Pannenkoek was _almost_ right on Ukko having the most potential to a saved B press. WMotR just arrived first.
Damn, Pannen's loaded, 1000$ for a B button
Really impressed that you guys finally managed to get Ukiki out of that box. I think the B Button Challenge has been perfected at this point; I don't see any way the remaining B presses could be saved, unless arbitrary code execution or wrong warps are discovered. Congratulations!
Unavoidable B press: throwing baby penguin off the cliff.
You can use Z to drop her off the cliff.
The monkey has finally been freed from the mountaintop, and all we had to do was get them to go ludicrously fast with a fly guy.
In all seriousness, you and Nim did a fantastic job with the TAS! Great work!
I thought I was on crack thinking I'd watched this before, then I realized ukiki has finally been defeated. It's crazy what strats can be used to solve things like that.
I thought I had seen this, then checked description
Cheers for the info for clarifying the new Ukiki strat there
10:40 that was the best and the forever best flying ever done.
I gasped out loud at that Ukiki strat. Brilliant.
Soon, we will be able to beat Super Mario 64 through mental thought alone.
"BBC" is an unfortunate name
Yeah, it's really a shame to associate this challenge with the British Broadcasting Corporation
So freakin cool. I remember the original video over this star thinking it had the most potential to be saved, and now it's done
So really it's everything now except Bowser, King Bob Omb, and MIPS. Incredible
Also toad (for J)
That new Ukiki strat is insane!
In an alternate universe, a channel called UncommentatedWafel focuses entirely on the B button challenge and has a one-off video about the A button challenge.
The B Button Challenge, also known as Mario BBC
That Ukiki strat is why I watch this channel. Awesome stuff ❤️
It’s cool watching the improvements of this challenge run. Thanks for documenting it for those of us who don’t understand the technical side.
wow, the monkey cage strat is amazing! and thanks for linking nim's explanation video in the description.
I've been watching this ukiki clip with my mouth wide open, I swear all these years I thought it would be impossible to grab him without pressing B, it feels like I'm watching history
And so the B button challenge ends. There is nothing left to save. Everything else is impossible.
Good work! Your job is done.
I could’ve sworn I was tripping having watched some rendition of this video like 3 different times over the last like couple weeks. But I was never paying enough attention to notice the new strats. So FINALLY with this version I looked at the comments before watching. Because either I was oblivious to some long-con meme in the community or I was oblivious to some amazing strat development, but I was gonna figure it out this time. And can I just say, holy crap. This is amazing that so many developments have been made I think literally just this year. Like I knew Ukiki would be broken eventually, but I swear I remember people talking about it being “definitely the next one to fall” for YEARS (used to be a big fan and viewer of SM64 TAS and speedrun years ago and only recently coming back to it, also WMotR fell first, if I’m remembering and reading the comments correctly? That’s also incredible). I’m so impressed to see mechanics and barriers like this finally falling in games! Props to nim and pannen for the Ukiki strat development and TASing, this is beautiful.
That technique for Ukiki is insane!
I watch you since you first published the first B button challenge video, and its been an honor to finally see the Mystery of the Monkey Cage finally being completed 0B. Congratulations to both of you! And thank you!
5:45 this is artwork dude what. you are a wizard
well-placed IN D E E E ED.
the whole thing, indeed.
6:43 in the nuclear future, PU-ing the mountain is easier to just ask the PU bot how to do
The way you avoid some B buttons are so funny. Like, we were talking about how to avoid pressing B to throw Bowser in the first fight, then all of a sudden we are shown the moat and doing PU movements there lol
Basically the same energy as lowering Stomp on the Thwomp from 3x A presses down to 2x
And now it only takes 1x.
@@quinn7894 And now it takes 0x
@@turtle19_ I think we have to take a moment to appreciate the fact that the most vertical star can be collected with no A presses.
Man, when I hear that file select music in your videos it puts a smile on my face every time.
This was an incredible watch, love your work.
the real update was the removal of getting on top of the castle roof
the epic saga
So we’re down to grabbing Bowser, grabbing King Bob-omb, grabbing MIPS, and talking to Toad. Grabbing MIPS seems to be the only thing that isn’t hard-coded to require the B-button. Grabbing MIPS would be like grabbing Ukiki except that the tools to grab things exist in TTM and not downstairs.
So, is it time to declare victory?
I feel like I've seen this video "B"fore.
Thanks Nim!
Guy pays 1000$ after recieving help to warp the the physics of monkey displacement
7:20 When all that work comes together, it's actually beautiful.
This is as hype as saving an A-press
Very helpful description to see what's new. I really admire your executive skills and it takes a lot of that to plan, problem solve, analyze and showcase what you do in a video. You're incredible!
This strat looks like a ridiculous theorycrafted basketball trickshot from the roof or something, I love it!
Here early, and I'm loving the possibilities, thanks for the updated educational content Pannen 😄
Panen proves that lawful chaotic is a very real alignment.
This is how to do 0 B presses: bind the b button to another button so youre not pressing B.
I just noticed why the a button challenge is called the ABC, but the b button challenge isn't called the BBC
what do you know, i subscribed 15 minutes ago and there’s a new video already. you are my current obsession
I had a feeling this would happen pretty soon after the last update. Very cool!
First koopa is banished to the shadow realm with hyper speed, now ukiki is freed with hyper speed.
The most astonishing part of that video is however that you can actually knock down that plank in WF. I've played that game for 25 years without knowing that.
So happy you were able to find a way to get the monkey-- finding the strat so soon too! What a surprise treat of a video!
Great job with the new ukiki tas pannen!!!!!! Jesus its so exciting whenever new skips come up but this one was something special
NO WAY IT GOT IMPROVED AGAIN?
everybody gangsta till pannen pulls out the PU map
I never thought I’d see the day where both the upwarp and 0B monkey are both solved
11:49 you can also enter the level with the high level water setting and go to the cage, jump out of the water and ledge grab onto the cage.
Edit: here is footage of me doing it
m.ruclips.net/video/QdtNG8JliaI/видео.html
Yep! That's how I enter the tunnel, too.
11:48 -- Or doing a high jump into the WDW painting, swimming to the tunnel, and doing a ledge grab.
I swear I saw this updated before, or was it the A button challenge?
Edit: Nvm, it was the CCC challenge
no you were right ruclips.net/video/Ex0MXY55s5Q/видео.html
it was this challenge that was updated most recently
It was both CCC and B button
Pretty much all challenge videos have a copy of them
Traveling to another universe just avoid a B press
Wow, this was so clever. Congrats to nim for coming up with the idea and of course Pannen for TASing. Great stuff!
You don't know how excited i get every time i see the PU Map used again! Let's goooooo
Your passion for this game is inspiring
Absolutely great job on saving that ukiki b press
That new strat is one of the coolest things i’ve ever seen
Okay the monkey stopped being a problem
That was an incredible B button save! I remember seeing the original video wondering if it were actually possible
Holy moly, Ukiki 0x B Presses real 😳
Wow! Congrats to you and nim for developing the Ukiki strat, that's awesome
absolutely marvelous. this is why i stay subscribed. the effort that went into this is unreal.
"Thus, there is only one video on the entirety of the B button challenge"
*Also posts 3 videos*
lmao hi vexxter
Eventually you won't have to press any buttons to beat this game. You'll just look at the console sternly and it'll beat itself. Then you'll start working on a challenge to beat it without even needing that.
TTM2 needs its own video
I thought I might have stumbled upon a groundhogs day loop by accident, but nah, just more cool stuff being found.
I love seeing games get cracked open like this. And it genuinely feels like anyone who does challenge videos like "IS IT POSSIBLE TO BEAT SONIC 1 WITHOUT COLLECTING A SINGLE RING?!?" is just trying to piggyback off of the genuinely inspiring work put through to get this to happen.
I have no beef with them, but everything they talk about isn't as creative as "Let's reposition this fly guy to a very particular point so that we can BLJ off of it in order to let a monkey escape from a fence" kind of creative. It's awe inspiring
Its more just an example of how developed SM64 is as a challenge game, things like avoiding coins are classic challenges being worked on even in SM64, its just that many games lack A: the life long community of SM64, and B: The absolute nonsense that is SM64 Physics
After ten million years I can’t believe you finally came up with the ukiki strat absolute king
you never cease to amaze me
Still never ceasing
amazing work with the no b press ukiki star!
THEY DID IT, BOYS. THEY GOT UKIKI B-LESS. *LET’S. FUCKING. GO.*
Crazy shit. You freed ukiki. Holy hell.
At 7:38 approximately how many Gs of force did mario withstand with no issues at this speed
Some of these B presses need the unmatched power of the sun to be avoided
I'd love to see some analysis of a "Minimum Button Presses" challenge, seeing how many A, B (C and Start) presses each star takes cumulatively. Finding strats that avoid two B presses in favor of a single A press, as an example puzzle, could be fun. It simultaneously gives access to every technique in the game, while still providing difficulty by making you choose which one to use where.
Edit: I've been made aware of the minimum button press challenge Pannenkoek helped out with, and that certainly was exactly what I was looking for; except it was about 70 star instead of 120 star. Comparing 70 star ABC to 120 star ABC makes a world of difference, as it would for this challenge.
I love that you fully reupload update videos!