I love this sonata! Especially the Allegro assai (20:35)... One of Hexameron's uploads I always went back to. Reubke's early death was definitely a terrible loss
I return to this piece every now and then. It is worth getting to know it deeply, as I did when I listened to it obsessively when I first discovered it. Someone I thought could have altered the history of music, but there’s nothing to be done about that, and I like what came after anyway.
I understand his very existence on the scene would have altered musical history, but I mean in a major way, as in someone who might have competed with Brahms on an instrumental basis.
Thank you for posting this, there are many similarities to Liszt here, but the story you have attached explains it all, and gives me greater respect for both composers. This is a wonderful sonata.
Among organists, some of whom I knew in college days, Reubke is well-known for his organ sonata, which is notorious for its hideous difficulty. This is the first I've come across the piano sonata!
I knew beforehand that Reubke was organist himself, but this sounds like "orgelwerke" indeed, although Chopin would be proud. Wow! So, it is not just 94th psalm, I see it now! What I waste to the music - to have so little left of this genius.
Fantastic work, full of musicality and with an exceptional virtuosity. The end of the sonata could have been written by Liszt himself with its spectacular octaves.
I'm crying I'm crying... ! I know this piece by hearth since 20 years..... this is.... I'm out of anything, GENIOUS, it is so good that I can't comment on it all The instrument is unbelievable and so the pianist... I feelin out of the universe.... What is this instrument?
an incredible work, one of my secret favourites in the literature! ...this recording, though, seems a bit flat to me. I'm a pianist myself (not quite at this level), but it just feels like much of the emotion, especially in the more rigorous sections, is held back. I just feel that for Romantic works, control can give way to a bit of spontaneity. The more lyrical sections are lovely, however!
+f1f1s He always had amazing descriptions too with insightful anecdotes. There's no way to obtain a list of all he uploaded either so many of those works will probably be lost for a very long time, until either he himself reuploads them or someone else discovers them.
+Silviu Ceban Can you imagine the sheer number of copyright holder complaints his channel has gone through over time? What could have become the last straw?
+f1f1s Hexameron's channel shows the following message: "Hexameron has been terminated because we received multiple third-party claims of copyright infringement regarding material the user posted."
The last bar has "Grave" with "fff". I may be just deaf, but from the beginning through the end, the emotion is so peaked out with this "Grave" thing for 29 min. Maybe I just don't share this dramatic level of emotion of this tune. I suppose this resonated in the 19th century in Europe.
150 years before the Beatles there were another Fab Four, Mendelssohn, Chopin, Schumann and Liszt and then there were some contemporaries who tried to put in edgewise much virtuoso ado about nothing. Unfortunately for Fred and Julius the symphony for Isoniazid, Rifampicin, Pyrazinamide, Ethambutol and Nursestra was composed only 100+ years later.
I have the impression that young Reubke tried to load his sonata with a Lisztian amount of pianism and succeeded mightily. Unfortunately, the work lacks the kind of dramatic structure that always makes Beethoven sonatas so interesting. I will assume that, had he lived past 24, he would have developed into a better, more mature composer. This work has all the emotional impact of fireworks--impressive at the moment and then utterly forgettable on the way home.
6 minutes into it the structure feels too amorphous, there is no memorable melodic content. A few interesting New German School chords and transitions, but mostly empty virtuosity and substandard Listz like motifs. It is unfortunate he passed at 24, it is possible his compositions may have improved if he lived into maturity.
Great way to put it. At the start I was grasped. The introduction is wondeful, and presents a theme that feels like it will be developed into something but never comes. It feels similar actually to chopins 1st sonata. Considering he wrote that at a young age, and comparing it to his later 2nd and 3rd, it’s definitely a shame that Reubke didn’t longer.
@@erika6651I must disagree. This is a piece I only listen to rarely, but yet I still often hear the melodies from the first movement in my head every now and then. I think there are plenty of memorable moments in the work. Like most other things, it’s subjective I suppose
@@sucroseboy4940 This may be one of those pieces I have to go back to a few times before the melodic content stands out. I passed off Carl Maria Von Weber as a b grade composer for decades and was completely underwhelmed by his 1st Piano Concerto when I first heard it. I changed my mind a few years back and find myself humming themes from the first and third movements now from time to time!
It almost sounds like when ad people get composers to write a melody that's **almost** Bolero but with a few slight changes so they don't have to pay so much for the license.
Are you sure Fran’s Liszt didn’t write this sonata? I prefer the Allegro assai because it was less Lisztian. I don’t know why people cannot believe in their own originality.
I'm not a big fan of Liszt, but I love some of his shorter, less bombastic pieces. This Reubke sonata, like Liszt's, contains beautiful passages woven in between the pathos (or bathos) that Liszt enjoyed using in his music. If Reubke had composed this without the opening Lisztian bravura/bombast, it would be more interesting. Even Horowitz once stated in an interview that pianists should be careful when looking into Liszt's works for something to play because, according to Horowitz, there is much that is of an "inferior" quality.
Yet another early death of a fine romantic period composer who would have lived a longer life with antibiotics. Proves either:1) Time travel is impossible, or2) Our civilization won't last long enough to discover how, or3) Music lovers will never get access to a time machine.How many of us now listening wouldn't be without antibiotics?
I came up with a counter to that sort of thought though. If time travel were invented, it would eventually get out, and the only way to fix the problem, would to be to go back and stop the invention. So once a machine was built, the user would have to be on guard for people from the future out to shut them down.
Perhaps you should make an effort to hear past the virtuosity, and actually try to grasp the work. All of the virtuosic writing, grows from a harmonically and melodically rich soil. It’s not just there for the sake of it
I. Allegro maestoso.
II. Andante sostenuto. 13:52
III. Allegro assai. 20:34
Pinning a comment after 4 years is classy.
Consider it an honor.
@@thenameisgsarci I do!
It's incredible that this sonata was written in middle 1800
If you like this, give a listen to Reubke's Sonata on the 94th Psalm in C minor (1857) for organ. Reubke is a truly outstanding composer.
I love this sonata! Especially the Allegro assai (20:35)... One of Hexameron's uploads I always went back to.
Reubke's early death was definitely a terrible loss
I return to this piece every now and then. It is worth getting to know it deeply, as I did when I listened to it obsessively when I first discovered it. Someone I thought could have altered the history of music, but there’s nothing to be done about that, and I like what came after anyway.
I understand his very existence on the scene would have altered musical history, but I mean in a major way, as in someone who might have competed with Brahms on an instrumental basis.
This could definitely be Liszt's Piano Sonata No. 2
yup
I've only listened to the first 10 seconds but I agree
EXACTLY!!!!! How sure are we this piece doesn’t belong to Liszt?
Actually third sonata because Liszt has Dante Sonata and Sonata in b
A fantastic sonata.
Thank you for posting this, there are many similarities to Liszt here, but the story you have attached explains it all, and gives me greater respect for both composers. This is a wonderful sonata.
I'm glad you liked it. :)
5:11 is just absolutely stunning!
As we rave about a particular composition it is important to remember the virtuoso pianists whose abilities bring it to life, for better or worse.
Outstanding sonata; a truly visceral and majestic expression of struggle and triumph.
I'd never heard of this composer before. I think he popped up from all the Alkan I've been listening to. This is absolutely beautiful.
Me thinks I hear some similarities in style and mood to the Liszt Sonata in Bm. Not sure which came first. An amazing work.
Reubke finished his sonata 4 years after Liszt finished his.
Among organists, some of whom I knew in college days, Reubke is well-known for his organ sonata, which is notorious for its hideous difficulty. This is the first I've come across the piano sonata!
Yes. An amazing talent. Tears and applause. Liszt was devastated when he passed away. Crazy force of nature. Piano explore.
16:43 My God, that is just majestic.
I listened to it YEARS ago... didn't remember it very well... but wow! quite a work... you can see Liszt's influence all over it...
I knew beforehand that Reubke was organist himself, but this sounds like "orgelwerke" indeed, although Chopin would be proud. Wow! So, it is not just 94th psalm, I see it now! What I waste to the music - to have so little left of this genius.
5:10 the way Reubke employs the three hand effect is as good as those in the earlier romantics!
Fantastic work, full of musicality and with an exceptional virtuosity. The end of the sonata could have been written by Liszt himself with its spectacular octaves.
I didnt know Ferencz Liszt composed two B minor sonatas.
Uhmmm... no, he didn't.
+thenameisgsarci I know he didnt but this one is way too influenced by Liszt.
Of course, I was expecting you to say that.
+jennifergala Bb minor in this case :)
+Serge Bayet I am aware of it.
15:20 - It is so beautifully.. Amazingly! Julius Reubke - genius ... Great composer!
I love Hamish Milne's interpretation! Decca, on Spotify. ❤️
I'm crying I'm crying... ! I know this piece by hearth since 20 years..... this is.... I'm out of anything, GENIOUS, it is so good that I can't comment on it all The instrument is unbelievable and so the pianist... I feelin out of the universe.... What is this instrument?
It’s a steinway pan flute
Masterful performance!
wow! really great work! needs more attention!
breathtaking heroics at the piano, composition transcends the norm
an incredible work, one of my secret favourites in the literature!
...this recording, though, seems a bit flat to me. I'm a pianist myself (not quite at this level), but it just feels like much of the emotion, especially in the more rigorous sections, is held back. I just feel that for Romantic works, control can give way to a bit of spontaneity. The more lyrical sections are lovely, however!
buy the Jean Guillou version, on AUGURE , his home lable. Live recording at Paris Conservatoire on a Fazioli, earthshakingly unbelievable!
3:46, 5:11 - Great melodies...
Man... This is amazing! Where did you find all these hidden gems?
A lot of places on the internet. :D
A masterpiece!
Sigh... If only it was possible to restore the comment threads from Hexameron’s upload. Time to contact the support, I guess.
+f1f1s He always had amazing descriptions too with insightful anecdotes. There's no way to obtain a list of all he uploaded either so many of those works will probably be lost for a very long time, until either he himself reuploads them or someone else discovers them.
+f1f1s why did Hexameron disappear ?
+Silviu Ceban Can you imagine the sheer number of copyright holder complaints his channel has gone through over time? What could have become the last straw?
+f1f1s Bet it was Auerbach
+f1f1s
Hexameron's channel shows the following message: "Hexameron has been terminated because we received multiple third-party claims of copyright infringement regarding material the user posted."
Wow, you're an extraordinary source of great discoveries. Well done.
Don't mind it. :)
Thank You
Thank you, too. :)
2:47 is that a reference to Liszt's B Minor Sonata?
The "You shall become who you are" is from the philosopher Parmenides...Laurel to caesar...
The last bar has "Grave" with "fff". I may be just deaf, but from the beginning through the end, the emotion is so peaked out with this "Grave" thing for 29 min. Maybe I just don't share this dramatic level of emotion of this tune. I suppose this resonated in the 19th century in Europe.
25:50 peaceful sonorities - very nice discovery
This sonata sounds like it could have easily been written 50 years later from when it was written.
Good luck to whoever plays this
Amazing piano discovery.
The composition engulfed me.
The composer must have been virtuoso to conceive such a work.
Drama on the keyboard.
150 years before the Beatles there were another Fab Four, Mendelssohn, Chopin, Schumann and Liszt and then there were some contemporaries who tried to put in edgewise much virtuoso ado about nothing. Unfortunately for Fred and Julius the symphony for Isoniazid, Rifampicin, Pyrazinamide, Ethambutol and Nursestra was composed only 100+ years later.
Boy Oh Boy, that's a lot of notes. He must have been a big fan of Liszt.
Love this guys stuff
You might want to check his organ sonata after some Psalm (don't remember which, sorry).
@@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji I have to give that a good listen!
Wow!
2:49 - 2:53 Liszt Sonata?
I have the impression that young Reubke tried to load his sonata with a Lisztian amount of pianism and succeeded mightily. Unfortunately, the work lacks the kind of dramatic structure that always makes Beethoven sonatas so interesting. I will assume that, had he lived past 24, he would have developed into a better, more mature composer. This work has all the emotional impact of fireworks--impressive at the moment and then utterly forgettable on the way home.
6 minutes into it the structure feels too amorphous, there is no memorable melodic content. A few interesting New German School chords and transitions, but mostly empty virtuosity and substandard Listz like motifs. It is unfortunate he passed at 24, it is possible his compositions may have improved if he lived into maturity.
Great way to put it. At the start I was grasped. The introduction is wondeful, and presents a theme that feels like it will be developed into something but never comes. It feels similar actually to chopins 1st sonata. Considering he wrote that at a young age, and comparing it to his later 2nd and 3rd, it’s definitely a shame that Reubke didn’t longer.
@@erika6651I must disagree. This is a piece I only listen to rarely, but yet I still often hear the melodies from the first movement in my head every now and then. I think there are plenty of memorable moments in the work. Like most other things, it’s subjective I suppose
@@sucroseboy4940 This may be one of those pieces I have to go back to a few times before the melodic content stands out. I passed off Carl Maria Von Weber as a b grade composer for decades and was completely underwhelmed by his 1st Piano Concerto when I first heard it. I changed my mind a few years back and find myself humming themes from the first and third movements now from time to time!
Liszt influence, but still his own tune ... nice
18:40 : Did Scriabin know this piece ? It makes me think about his Fourth Piano Sonata...
nice
Genius...
7:38
Who is playing?
3:35 looks so much l ike the Liszt sonata
and sounds a little like it too
He was a student of Liszt
It almost sounds like when ad people get composers to write a melody that's **almost** Bolero but with a few slight changes so they don't have to pay so much for the license.
2:24 Franz Liszt's Après une lecture de Dante... :)
Indeed
Are you sure Fran’s Liszt didn’t write this sonata? I prefer the Allegro assai because it was less Lisztian. I don’t know why people cannot believe in their own originality.
Very dramatic description of the composer haha!
Oh hey there Liszt 2:48
Liszt läßt grüßen!!!!!!!!!!
emmm...
I'm not a big fan of Liszt, but I love some of his shorter, less bombastic pieces. This Reubke sonata, like Liszt's, contains beautiful passages woven in between the pathos (or bathos) that Liszt enjoyed using in his music. If Reubke had composed this without the opening Lisztian bravura/bombast, it would be more interesting. Even Horowitz once stated in an interview that pianists should be careful when looking into Liszt's works for something to play because, according to Horowitz, there is much that is of an "inferior" quality.
Too easy man
Yet another early death of a fine romantic period composer who would have lived a longer life with antibiotics. Proves either:1) Time travel is impossible, or2) Our civilization won't last long enough to discover how, or3) Music lovers will never get access to a time machine.How many of us now listening wouldn't be without antibiotics?
I came up with a counter to that sort of thought though. If time travel were invented, it would eventually get out, and the only way to fix the problem, would to be to go back and stop the invention. So once a machine was built, the user would have to be on guard for people from the future out to shut them down.
Suffers from too repetitive sequence construction 😢
With all due respect, this must be the most ignorant comment about Julius Reubke's sonata I've ever read.
virtuosistic boring!!!!!!!!!
Perhaps you should make an effort to hear past the virtuosity, and actually try to grasp the work. All of the virtuosic writing, grows from a harmonically and melodically rich soil. It’s not just there for the sake of it
An excellent performance!
By whom? I don't see......
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