This video is just the tip of the iceberg of Chopin content I'll be producing this fall in partnership with the Chopin Foundation of the United States. Coming October 2nd is The Chopin Podcast - a 12-part series dedicated to all of Chopin's major compositional genres, with each episode starring Garrick Ohlsson. This is all in anticipation of the National Chopin Competition, to be held in January 2025. I will be there in Miami to host the livestreams for every round of the Competition, which you can watch on the US Chopin Foundation's RUclips channel (subscribe now!): www.youtube.com/@chopinfoundationoftheunite8079 To learn more about the Chopin Foundation, and the US National Chopin Competition, check out their website: chopin.org For more on The Chopin Podcast, visit chopinpodcast.com
@@benlawdy Glad to hear that! I've seen scam posters. BUT yes on the metronome issue. A Dutch musician is on the path of trying to convince us that the metronome markings we see in Beethoven and Chopin are to be whole beat and not for each click of the metronome. (And I just bought a metronome from Amazon yesterday. I disabled the bell.) He also reacted negatively to my comment that Seymour Bernstein made about Chopin's piano octave is narrower than our piano octave today. This was from the video where I learned the Bernstein is Chopin. Who knew!
@@jaikee9477 Maybe, because he was a little humble. But if we talk solely about piano, Chopin is arguably the greatest composer. For me and many others
I could literally listen to Garrick Ohlsson talk about wheat toast for 10 hours and be completely captivated - to hear him talk about Chopin is an absolute treat.
that's a serious pianist video right there... I'm so tired of these "masterclasses" where the "master"tells you to "breath the wave of the sound" or "feel the wind coming from the seat"... these are REAL good tips. loved !
1. Playing the thumb on black keys 2. Striking two keys with the thumbs 3. Finger sliding 4. Passing longer fingers over shorter fingers 5. Flatter fingers to obtain a singing touch 6. Finger substitution 7. Phantom melody 8. The "Three hand" effect 9. Rhythmic innovations 10. Sitting lower on the piano bench 11. Flutter pedal 12. Catching a dissonance in the pedal 13. Avoiding C Major 14. Against finger equalization 15. The liberated thumb 16. Coloratura
I overuse it for sure! 😆I also love the finger switching, sometimes, when left hand is not busy, I employ it for the most important note of the melody (cf. especially Raindrop), to have more precision (I'm a lefty), and then switch s3 to r4 finger, also a very satisfying feel
I've crossed paths with Garrick a number of times through the years -- even playing for him once -- and I've always thoroughly enjoyed our conversations. He really has been an inspiration for me. Brilliant, funny and very gracious and kind. Tonebase is lucky to have him.🎶🎹😁👍💯
Here are three levels of genius at play in this video. The original genius to have composed with these ideas in mind. The modern genius to have mastered them and can understand and so brilliantly demon-splain them, and the third genius who can organize all of this into a business that allows me to see it. Geez.
It’s funny - Garrick and I talked about those accents, and he said he never understood them. The lower phantom melody is more “melodic” than those syncopated D’s. But I’m with you, I like when a pianist plays the accents. Go check out the interview I did with Avery Gagliano for tonebase. SHE does them, and we talked out it.
I’m sure Chopin liked them, too, especially in his first and last etudes from his first set, for example. I wonder when it became popular to pretend they do not exist, in pieces where they act as technical demands.
What an absolute treasure to listen to Ohlsson speak on Chopin. Some of the most beautiful music ever written. I wish this video existed 20 yrs ago when I was studying and competing! As small and narrow-handed pianist, it would have been so liberating to come to terms with the “Siamese” fingers. I spent most of my studies strengthening and stretching fingers 4 & 5 and ended up with cubital tunnel syndrome. What innovative contributions Chopin made to the world of music. He walked so Rachmaninoff, jazz artists, and others could run. It’s a dream of mine to see the international Chopin competition in person some day! Thank you for making this channel accessible to everyone who loves music, and what an awesome T shirt😂
As a polish amateur pianist who slightly regrets quitting music school in my teens, I have been absolutely in love with all your collaborations with Mr. Ohlson! I can’t say how much I’ve learned over the months I’ve been watching, on Tonebase and now here, every video is a revelation. Thank you so much. I’m very much looking forward to the podcast!
Garrick is one of those pianists that sound great on recordings……….and surpasses all of your expectations during a live recital. I still can’t forget the glorious Busoni/Liszt recital he gave at Carnegie over 10 years ago. His recording of the complete works by Chopin are all “reference” recordings, but the Mazurkas, especially, are in another realm. Honestly, everything that Mr. Ohlsson performs is on the highest level.
This lesson would have been invaluable for me while i was struggling learning the four Ballades and the Preludes in my teens, back in the 50s. I really hope many young pianists follow it. Thank you.
Chopin is a world unto itself - a complete sub-genre in the history of Western music. There is so much complexity in his musical genius, all designed to take full advantage of an incredible instrument.
In a world filled with chaotic ignorance it is remarkably refreshing to dwell upon the realm of creativity and the tools of the genius of superb models as human beings and the light they shine on us: projected by great music: the language of a silent universe. Thank you immensly for your fantastic, inspiring, production
I will always love Garrick Ohlsson not only as a musician/artist but for me a teacher at SFCM. I graduated as part of the pre college program back in May of this year and now I'm attending Eastman School Of Music. I feel I owe a certain gratitude toward Ohlsson for where I am now.
One of the main innovations of Chopin was the use of arm technique which as he explained in a letter to Kalkbrenner who advocated for no arm movements-that the entire body is used for the instrument.
Fantastic! Garrick is truly amazing how he explains everything so clear. Number 8, "The 'Three Hand' effect" reminded me of the Horowitz arrangement of The Stars and Stripes, a piece many of us have attempted..
Garrick Ohlsson is the kind of teacher I wish I'd had at Juilliard. In fact it was a friend of Garrick's who was also a friend of my family, who was also a mentor and even tuned our piano! And it was Garrick's LP of his live performances from his victory at the Chopin competition in Warsaw that inspired me to learn Chopin's Sonata op. 58, which I played at my Juilliard entrance exam. So even though we've never met, I feel a connection and a debt of gratitude for Garrick Ohlsson's great playing, long career, and now his great teaching. If you're reading this, Garrick, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
This video is a rare gem - it's a close insight into the actual specific aspects of Chopin's music and technique. While many listeners acknowledge the complexity of this music and recognizes the virtuosity of players who can perform it in a perceived beautiful way, an average listener or even a piano hobbyist (like me) can't really digest the specific difficulties or tricks. These well explained and demonstrated examples allow to appreciate performances to a much greater extent. Thanks a lot for organizing this talk too!
It would be fascinating to hear maestro Ohlsson speak about the Godowsky Chopin studies from the perspective of how these build upon and extend Chopin's technical innovations.
Had the privilege of seeing Mr. Ohlsson when he gave a recital at my school (in a college town, mind you - so awesome that he came here!). He gave an all-Chopin program if I remember correctly, with an encore of the beautiful Nocturne op. 9 no. 3 in B major. I played that piece for my junior recital a couple weeks later, and man did I have some new ideas after hearing him! Such a clear sound and deliberate usage of pedal. Also mesmerizing to watch his arm movements as he glides up and down the keyboard. So free and natural and but you can easily tell that he has put an incredible amount of thought into his technique and sound quality. Very kind and welcoming to chat with after too. He is way bigger in person lol.
What I like about Garrick Ohlsson is that he admits when techniques are difficult. He does not show off like others pretending you can do it without problems and only by talent. Many top pianists lie about the tremendous amount of practice they do in order to become that good. He doesn´t. It is extremely hard work to get these pieces mastered. Talented or not so talented.
Great knowledge, great narration! I'm a guitar player with a little experience in playing the piano, but I studied some Chopin pieces 25 years ago (he was and is one of my favourites) and now I want to come back to this music! In 'Miles Ahead' movie Miles Davis sais Chopin is one of the greatest because there is a huge part of improvisation in his music. I agree completely. Thanks for this priceless video.
I would just like to express how much I appreciate your work, Ben. I’ve been playing all my life. Though I went to music school, I studied voice and always felt I’d somehow betrayed my younger, piano fueled self. These videos give me a chance at an education I’d never have otherwise.
Mr. Ohlsson is a treasure! Thank you Ben for facilitating us getting to hear/learn from him, back in the Tonebase days and now in this new series. Can't wait for the podcast!!
A beautiful and touching analysis shared by a gentle soul which loves what another gentle and delicate soul created. I feel only gratitude for videos like this one! Subscribed immediately to the podcast...
Found out about point 2 recently when playing the C minor and coming across the big 5-note chord in Bar 2. Literally googled 'Op 28, no 20 big chord' and thankfully someone on reddit had already answered this question.
Excellent video. The piano is an unsurpassed gem. It’s always interesting to note what a world class performer chooses for his/her personal instrument.
Thank you for your lecture! I advise mine advance students to watch it . I always follow you to enrich my experience on piano and expand my musical culture! Amazing,
I must ration the time I spend watching and listening to Mr Ohlsson, it is so addictive. What a treat. Would love to know why he chose a Bosendorfer for what appears to be his home..
@@morhywaden it’s an antique/ restored instrument. And a very fine one. I think it’s less about the brand and more about it just being a very special piano.
Great video once again! Mr. Ohlson is such a wonderfully warm and generous musician-person, and it's always a gift to take part of his reflexions. Many thanks!
This was fascinating. For one thing, I had long thought that the Etudes were more about showing off your technique, rather than practicing it. But your deeper dive into how the fingers need to be used was illuminating. And this relates strongly to Chopin's enlightened insight about the human hand, which he accepted "as is," instead of taking a mechanistic view, which is still encountered today among under-qualified teachers. I also thought repeatedly of Ravel's piano writing. He wrote so perfectly for the hand, that (merely) playing the notes of certain showpieces like Jeux-d'eau and Ondine is not as difficult as it sounds. (Making music of it requires, of course, much greater facility, as well as artistry.)
Garrick, Ben, as to innovation #12, catching a dissonance in the pedal and then the example of prelude #23: to me that "dissonant" has always been the logical start of the prelude #24, so it points ahead: which was maybe rare but not unheard of in composers before Chopin. That's only based on my hearing, I did not study the notes of the preludes. When I hear that "hanging dissonance" I immediately sit upright for the incredible passion of the 24th prelude ...
I think so too, but it’s worth noting that D minor is an unusual tonality for an F dominant 7th chord to “resolve” to. The E-flat falls to D, yes, but the other tones are not in tension with the d minor triad. In any case, there is a tradition of playing individual preludes on their own, including the F major. There’s no obligation to continue to the next prelude. Another interesting thing to note is that this harkens back to an older tradition of “preluding” where keyboardists wouldn’t bring closure to improvised preludes, but ended with a sonority that required some continuation or resolution in the larger work that followed. Back to your point, in this prelude (and only this one), I think Chopin is doing just that.
Excellent! Number 11 (flutter pedal) was new for me, even though I involuntarily used it already, without being sure if this is good practice. Will try it in one of my next recordings.
Garrick is the finest Chopinist of our age and we are so privileged to have him, but in my heart's desire, I want a video of Seymour giving his alternative viewpoint to everything that has been said 🪮
Garrick Ohlson is appearing an amazing pedagog as well as pianist. His wording is thorough but simple and with him playing Chopins pieces to demonstrate what he has juct covered, Wow, I feel like I attended a top notch pedagogy class for so much about Chopin's inventive techniques ! Thanks and very greatful for it 🙏🏻
thanks for sharing,such a pleasure listening to such a competent great pianist.Rather rare on you tube.Chopin really totally transformed the piano writing and the piano technique when you compare him to the predecessors it is so clear.
I’m surprised he didn’t mention how Chopin realized the 2nd finger was the pivot and by using that you can cover a wider range on the keyboard examples: prelude in d minor op 28 no 4 and etude f minor op 10 no 9
Oh that’s a good one! Yes Chopin simply came up with too many novel pianistic maneuvers to cover in a digestible video! I guess I’ll have to make a 12-part podcast series that continues to delve into them ;)
Nice, thanks! But many of the mentioned finger techniques were actually prevalent in Bach times. For example, using thumb on black keys, substituting fingers in the same key, crossing the long fingers above the short, sliding from black to white (and even from white to white - a very common technique on organ). They were very handy as the organ keyboard is quite shallow, comparing to the piano keyboard. I believe, those techniques were banned after Bach, in Haydn/Mozart time, and were rediscovered by Chopin.
Exactly! A lot of these techniques were already pioneered and used by baroque (and even late renaissance) keyboardists... Including the usage of the thumb on multiple keys: I was just playing a Johann Kaspar Ferdinand Fischer Toccata with huge block chords where you have to use the thumb in this way.
the so-called 'phantom melodies' are simply a result of Chopin's arpeggiated lines being horizontal realizations of 3/4/5-voice contrapuntal progressions. he might add some ornamentations that further disguise this, but generally if you stack up the notes of each arpeggio to make a chord, and then play one chord to the next, you'll see multiple voices moving in a melodic fashion, rather than a single voice moving up and down in a less melodic fashion.
@@skern49 I agree with all of that except for the “simply” part. Such craftsmanship in voice leading amid complex textures is not as common among even other great composers.
That excerpt you chose from 4th Scherzo to demonstrate how Chopin's music, as far as practicable, "fits into" the hand, it is truly a delight to play, it sounds scintillating. I've, in my inner world, interpreted them to be giggles following some slightly risqué phrase (which is repeated but with the last note sharped, like a play on words - and followed by another set of giggles). That eruptive forte in both hands at the bottom of that page sounds to me like a true laugh - the sort when you have to lean against lamp-posts and wipe your eyes. It always gives me a pick-me-up playing those and making them as giggly as I possibly can.
The crazy thing is, so many of these techniques seem to be written into the music; ignoring ideology, they are the most natural physiological approaches for handling many passages!
Thanks, Ben Laude, for making this irresistibly wonderful artist so available to his fans. I was on reruns of all the Tonebase lessons and videos when this latest venture appeared. I’ve now watched #9 of the Innovations about 126 times. Love the overhead camera work of Garrick’s (if that’s not too familiar) playing. ❤
Thank you for sharing this enjoyable and interesting video, Mr. Laude! I always enjoy hearing whatever Garrick Ohlsson has to say about playing the piano and piano music, and this video is no exception. I hope for lots more to come in the future! How wonderful it must be able to play the fioritura in Chopin's music. My right hand could never manage it, not to mention the problem of how you keep the left hand going more or less steadily while the right hand is suddenly supposed to play an explosion of notes over that steady left hand. Not for my poor digits unfortunately. But delightful to hear as played by Mr. Ohlsson and other pianists whose fingers are more "compliant."
For innovation 8 I think this is better attributed to Franz Liszt. Franz Liszt popularized orchestral writing for the piano through his piano transcription method, which often involved dense harmonies, loud percussive elements and you guessed it, three hand effect to capture all parts of the orchestra. The three hand effect became a staple of many virtuoso pianists like Liszt and Thalberg, it was less common in Chopin's music as Chopin disliked orchestral writing methodology and prefered the more intimate and delicate setting of a salon.
@@Putsmeiser yes, as Ohlsson says Liszt surpassed even thalberg and championed the effect. The point here is that Chopin actually anticipated the effect, even if he didn’t continue to exploit it.
@@benlawdy Thats a good point! As Liszt lived almost twice as long as Chopin, many of his more famous works were published after Chopin had already died, like his HR2. Regardless I think its more likely Liszt's three hand effect comes from immitating the orchestra rather than Chopin. Besides this the video had some excellent points that most people get wrong. Like number 6, I think its easy for students to overlook the importance of legato fingering as most pianists are not coming from a organist background and so they think they can just use the pedal for everything. Chopin had a deep appreciate for the 'eternal principles' of piano and legato fingering was one of those principles, used to provide clear voice leading. I also think his comments on innovation 9 is important because he relates polyrythems in chopins nocturnes with Rubato, which aligns with what Chopin's pupil Mikuli said about Chopins rubato, that the right hand floats freedly but the left hand sticks to the metronome. A lot of people falsly attribute Liszt's rubato of 'borrowing time' to Chopin. As far as the three hand effect I just wanted to give Liszt credit where credit is due, but overall great video! 😃
@@Putsmeiser of course, props to Liszt! And I agree I don’t think he got that from Chopin, on the other hand (no pun intended) he surely knew the piece and you never know how these things seep into an artist’s creative process. Maybe he noticed it in Chopin and it confirmed something he was already developing. Let’s also remember too that it’s common historically for two people to independently discover/invent the same thing around the same time, since all the influences and knowledge and modes of practice are in place for these things to be found - e.g. Leibniz/Newton with Calculus, Darwin/Wallace with Evolution (although those were a bit more consequential than the three hand effect!)
In an older video some years ago, Tonebase explained that the Schumann story is an old wives' tale. (Even going as far as saying that his actual wife Clara was furious with people spreading it.) We don't know what caused the injury and likely never will. What we do know for certain is that finger-strengthening devices could ruin hands in all kinds of ways except for the specific way in which Schumann's hands were ruined. For further details, google Eric Sams' 1971 article in The Musical Times, from which I will offer this excerpt: "The traditional explanation that a mechanical device for finger-strengthening permanently disabled a finger of Schumann's right hand is at variance with his own testimony in 1830-9, and with the recollection of his widow in 1889. "Its sole source seems to be a book published in 1853 by Friedrich Wieck, which offers a passing comment on 'the fingertormentor'. The assumption has been that this same device caused lifelong injury. But Wieck does not say so. Nor does he name Schumann in this context, though he does elsewhere in the book. In any event Wieck is not usually rated the most reliable of witnesses about his son-in-law. "Schumann the inventor of mechanical devices is also an unfamiliar figure. There were plenty of finger-strengtheners on the market at the time. According to Bötticher, Schumann ordered one in 1837, which would seem a strangely masochistic request from someone who had spent seven years as its crippled victim. "Further, Clara Schumann's only clear recollection of the injury was that it was _not_ caused by any such device. Moreover, she was quite sure that the residual damage was to the _index_ finger - which would not in normal circumstances have needed strengthening. "Schumann himself first refers to the trouble as an affliction of the hand, and only later as affecting a finger. He described it in such words as _Schwäche_ (weakness) or _Lähmung_ (paralysis), which connote loss of motor function from, say, rheumatism, rather than injury. He never mentions any sprain or pain; for the first two years there is little indication of even a temporary disablement. "But in 1839 he told an admirer of his music that he had lost the full use of that hand: 'some fingers (no doubt because of too much writing and playing in earlier years) have become quite weak, so that I can hardly use them'. If that were really the cause, there should be many other recorded instances of such a disability; but Schumann's is unique. "Perhaps he was too embarrassed to mention the use of a device. But one wonders what device short of a thumbscrew could possibly have had so prolonged and crippling an effect; and how such an effect could possibly have been chronic before it was acute, and harmed the hand before it hurt a finger. The textual evidence surely suggests that the hand trouble was gradual and its cause unknown."
@@alex_evstyugov thanks for all the info. I don’t realize it wasn’t substantiated. Indeed the story is quite prevalent among musicians and even scholarly types. I suppose it has a utility in earning against the unnatural pursuit of finger independence, but it certainly doesn’t honor Schumann’s actual biography!
This video is just the tip of the iceberg of Chopin content I'll be producing this fall in partnership with the Chopin Foundation of the United States. Coming October 2nd is The Chopin Podcast - a 12-part series dedicated to all of Chopin's major compositional genres, with each episode starring Garrick Ohlsson.
This is all in anticipation of the National Chopin Competition, to be held in January 2025. I will be there in Miami to host the livestreams for every round of the Competition, which you can watch on the US Chopin Foundation's RUclips channel (subscribe now!): www.youtube.com/@chopinfoundationoftheunite8079
To learn more about the Chopin Foundation, and the US National Chopin Competition, check out their website: chopin.org
For more on The Chopin Podcast, visit chopinpodcast.com
Laude and Lawdy?? Confusing.
@@ds61821 the first is how it’s spelled. The second is the phonetic pronunciation, since it doesn’t sound the way it looks.
@@benlawdy Yes but it's not the same person?
@@ds61821 I am me; yes, same person.
@@benlawdy Glad to hear that! I've seen scam posters. BUT yes on the metronome issue. A Dutch musician is on the path of trying to convince us that the metronome markings we see in Beethoven and Chopin are to be whole beat and not for each click of the metronome. (And I just bought a metronome from Amazon yesterday. I disabled the bell.) He also reacted negatively to my comment that Seymour Bernstein made about Chopin's piano octave is narrower than our piano octave today. This was from the video where I learned the Bernstein is Chopin. Who knew!
"Chopin is the greatest of them all, for with the piano alone he discovered everything."
- Claude Debussy
Chopin would very likely disagree and politely point towards Bach.
@@jaikee9477 Maybe, because he was a little humble. But if we talk solely about piano, Chopin is arguably the greatest composer. For me and many others
@@jaikee9477I think he said something like: If you want to talk to me after I die, play Mozart and I will hear you.
@@AliceInDarkness190The Hammerklavier has its own merits...
Great stuff
Garrick Ohlson, what a friendly, sophisticated and warm person! and amazing knowledge from direct experience, thanks for sharing.
Beautiful summary of this gorgeous man.
Such a wonderful man, and a great teacher.
I could literally listen to Garrick Ohlsson talk about wheat toast for 10 hours and be completely captivated - to hear him talk about Chopin is an absolute treat.
that's a serious pianist video right there... I'm so tired of these "masterclasses" where the "master"tells you to "breath the wave of the sound" or "feel the wind coming from the seat"... these are REAL good tips. loved !
1. Playing the thumb on black keys
2. Striking two keys with the thumbs
3. Finger sliding
4. Passing longer fingers over shorter fingers
5. Flatter fingers to obtain a singing touch
6. Finger substitution
7. Phantom melody
8. The "Three hand" effect
9. Rhythmic innovations
10. Sitting lower on the piano bench
11. Flutter pedal
12. Catching a dissonance in the pedal
13. Avoiding C Major
14. Against finger equalization
15. The liberated thumb
16. Coloratura
double thumbing is one of those oddly satisfying technics at the piano
👍. 👍👍👍👍👍👍😊
I overuse it for sure! 😆I also love the finger switching, sometimes, when left hand is not busy, I employ it for the most important note of the melody (cf. especially Raindrop), to have more precision (I'm a lefty), and then switch s3 to r4 finger, also a very satisfying feel
I've crossed paths with Garrick a number of times through the years -- even playing for him once -- and I've always thoroughly enjoyed our conversations. He really has been an inspiration for me. Brilliant, funny and very gracious and kind. Tonebase is lucky to have him.🎶🎹😁👍💯
@@certainlynotthebestpianist5638
That section at 14:02 is so satisfying to play, really the most complex polyrhythm that I've ever found in Chopin.
I’ve played it and I agree! :)
Yes, Chopin, almost composed nothing but piano music, but what craftsmanship, refinement, beauty and feeling in almost every one of his pieces.
Here are three levels of genius at play in this video. The original genius to have composed with these ideas in mind. The modern genius to have mastered them and can understand and so brilliantly demon-splain them, and the third genius who can organize all of this into a business that allows me to see it. Geez.
9:54 It's interesting how many pianists ignore Chopin's accents in favour of bringing out the phantom melody. I wonder who popularized that.
It’s funny - Garrick and I talked about those accents, and he said he never understood them. The lower phantom melody is more “melodic” than those syncopated D’s.
But I’m with you, I like when a pianist plays the accents. Go check out the interview I did with Avery Gagliano for tonebase. SHE does them, and we talked out it.
I’m sure Chopin liked them, too, especially in his first and last etudes from his first set, for example. I wonder when it became popular to pretend they do not exist, in pieces where they act as technical demands.
What an absolute treasure to listen to Ohlsson speak on Chopin. Some of the most beautiful music ever written. I wish this video existed 20 yrs ago when I was studying and competing! As small and narrow-handed pianist, it would have been so liberating to come to terms with the “Siamese” fingers. I spent most of my studies strengthening and stretching fingers 4 & 5 and ended up with cubital tunnel syndrome. What innovative contributions Chopin made to the world of music. He walked so Rachmaninoff, jazz artists, and others could run. It’s a dream of mine to see the international Chopin competition in person some day! Thank you for making this channel accessible to everyone who loves music, and what an awesome T shirt😂
As a polish amateur pianist who slightly regrets quitting music school in my teens, I have been absolutely in love with all your collaborations with Mr. Ohlson! I can’t say how much I’ve learned over the months I’ve been watching, on Tonebase and now here, every video is a revelation. Thank you so much. I’m very much looking forward to the podcast!
Garrick is one of those pianists that sound great on recordings……….and surpasses all of your expectations during a live recital. I still can’t forget the glorious Busoni/Liszt recital he gave at Carnegie over 10 years ago. His recording of the complete works by Chopin are all “reference” recordings, but the Mazurkas, especially, are in another realm. Honestly, everything that Mr. Ohlsson performs is on the highest level.
This is gold. Playing the piano since 20 years and never really realised all of this. Thank you Mr Ohlsson
Garrick is an absolute powerhouse
This has to be one of the best piano lessons I have ever experienced as I advance into my arthritic 60s.
This lesson would have been invaluable for me while i was struggling learning the four Ballades and the Preludes in my teens, back in the 50s. I really hope many young pianists follow it. Thank you.
Chopin is a world unto itself - a complete sub-genre in the history of Western music. There is so much complexity in his musical genius, all designed to take full advantage of an incredible instrument.
In a world filled with chaotic ignorance it is remarkably refreshing to dwell upon the realm of creativity and the tools of the genius of superb models as human beings and the light they shine on us: projected by great music: the language of a silent universe. Thank you immensly for your fantastic, inspiring, production
I will always love Garrick Ohlsson not only as a musician/artist but for me a teacher at SFCM. I graduated as part of the pre college program back in May of this year and now I'm attending Eastman School Of Music. I feel I owe a certain gratitude toward Ohlsson for where I am now.
recording all of his works is a mental achievement.
Listening to Garrick get tears in my eyes!!! What a beauty!!
One of the main innovations of Chopin was the use of arm technique which as he explained in a letter to Kalkbrenner who advocated for no arm movements-that the entire body is used for the instrument.
Fantastic! Garrick is truly amazing how he explains everything so clear. Number 8, "The 'Three Hand' effect" reminded me of the Horowitz arrangement of The Stars and Stripes, a piece many of us have attempted..
Garrick Ohlsson is the kind of teacher I wish I'd had at Juilliard. In fact it was a friend of Garrick's who was also a friend of my family, who was also a mentor and even tuned our piano! And it was Garrick's LP of his live performances from his victory at the Chopin competition in Warsaw that inspired me to learn Chopin's Sonata op. 58, which I played at my Juilliard entrance exam. So even though we've never met, I feel a connection and a debt of gratitude for Garrick Ohlsson's great playing, long career, and now his great teaching. If you're reading this, Garrick, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Your memories, experience and sharing them is admired and much appreciated.
Every word is gold.
This video is a rare gem - it's a close insight into the actual specific aspects of Chopin's music and technique. While many listeners acknowledge the complexity of this music and recognizes the virtuosity of players who can perform it in a perceived beautiful way, an average listener or even a piano hobbyist (like me) can't really digest the specific difficulties or tricks. These well explained and demonstrated examples allow to appreciate performances to a much greater extent. Thanks a lot for organizing this talk too!
Marvelous.. thanks.. chopin was so free.. dreamy.. poetic.. virtuoso full virtue.. most lovable of all.. right after mozart.. beethoven..
important to mention, that hearing you play Chopin is also great!! Its a dream of music!! Thanks for your wonderful play!!
I have no idea why Ben left Tonebase, but I'm not mad about it when we're getting this high level of content.
Tonebase piano viewership tanked after he left
Saw the title of innovation 9 and I immediately shouted ballade 4!
Probably my favourite passage in the entire Chopin repertoire
He and my professor were good friends, so I was able to meet him once. Incredibly nice man, and an unbelievably great pianist.
I saw him play the Busoni concerto with the Cleveland Orchestra (Gilbert) about 5 years ago. Unforgettable!
Garrick Ohlson and Ben Laude - Two of the good americans ❤
It would be fascinating to hear maestro Ohlsson speak about the Godowsky Chopin studies from the perspective of how these build upon and extend Chopin's technical innovations.
Yes!!
Had the privilege of seeing Mr. Ohlsson when he gave a recital at my school (in a college town, mind you - so awesome that he came here!). He gave an all-Chopin program if I remember correctly, with an encore of the beautiful Nocturne op. 9 no. 3 in B major. I played that piece for my junior recital a couple weeks later, and man did I have some new ideas after hearing him! Such a clear sound and deliberate usage of pedal. Also mesmerizing to watch his arm movements as he glides up and down the keyboard. So free and natural and but you can easily tell that he has put an incredible amount of thought into his technique and sound quality. Very kind and welcoming to chat with after too. He is way bigger in person lol.
I have to say, I absolutely adore the sound of Ohlson's piano!
What talent! Wish I had a teacher like Mr. Ohisson.
Or his hands--I read somewhere a long time ago that his hands span a twelfth. Must be nice!
What I like about Garrick Ohlsson is that he admits when techniques are difficult. He does not show off like others pretending you can do it without problems and only by talent. Many top pianists lie about the tremendous amount of practice they do in order to become that good. He doesn´t. It is extremely hard work to get these pieces mastered. Talented or not so talented.
Great knowledge, great narration! I'm a guitar player with a little experience in playing the piano, but I studied some Chopin pieces 25 years ago (he was and is one of my favourites) and now I want to come back to this music!
In 'Miles Ahead' movie Miles Davis sais Chopin is one of the greatest because there is a huge part of improvisation in his music.
I agree completely.
Thanks for this priceless video.
I would just like to express how much I appreciate your work, Ben. I’ve been playing all my life. Though I went to music school, I studied voice and always felt I’d somehow betrayed my younger, piano fueled self. These videos give me a chance at an education I’d never have otherwise.
Garrick Ohlson. Wow! Great teaching from one of the great masters!
Wonderful. I could listen to him talk about, and play, Chopin allllllll day. Gorgeous piano too. 😍
Mr. Ohlsson is a treasure! Thank you Ben for facilitating us getting to hear/learn from him, back in the Tonebase days and now in this new series. Can't wait for the podcast!!
A beautiful and touching analysis shared by a gentle soul which loves what another gentle and delicate soul created. I feel only gratitude for videos like this one! Subscribed immediately to the podcast...
Found out about point 2 recently when playing the C minor and coming across the big 5-note chord in Bar 2. Literally googled 'Op 28, no 20 big chord' and thankfully someone on reddit had already answered this question.
Excellent video. The piano is an unsurpassed gem. It’s always interesting to note what a world class performer chooses for his/her personal instrument.
A wonderful and masterful treatise on Chopin’s innovations! Thankyou for putting this together 🎹🙏
Thank you for your lecture! I advise mine advance students to watch it . I always follow you to enrich my experience on piano and expand my musical culture! Amazing,
The 2:01 transition is just sooo satisfying
I must ration the time I spend watching and listening to Mr Ohlsson, it is so addictive. What a treat. Would love to know why he chose a Bosendorfer for what appears to be his home..
@@morhywaden it’s an antique/ restored instrument. And a very fine one. I think it’s less about the brand and more about it just being a very special piano.
Also, there’s 10+ more hours of Garrick talking Chopin on the way starting next week. Plan accordingly…
@@benlawdy Thanks for the information and taking the time to respond. There is nothing quite like this in the UK .
Great video once again! Mr. Ohlson is such a wonderfully warm and generous musician-person, and it's always a gift to take part of his reflexions. Many thanks!
It's HEEEERE. The renowned great pianist Garrick Ohlsson, Thank you so much for your in-depth insights. Thank you Ben for delivering!
This was fascinating. For one thing, I had long thought that the Etudes were more about showing off your technique, rather than practicing it. But your deeper dive into how the fingers need to be used was illuminating. And this relates strongly to Chopin's enlightened insight about the human hand, which he accepted "as is," instead of taking a mechanistic view, which is still encountered today among under-qualified teachers. I also thought repeatedly of Ravel's piano writing. He wrote so perfectly for the hand, that (merely) playing the notes of certain showpieces like Jeux-d'eau and Ondine is not as difficult as it sounds. (Making music of it requires, of course, much greater facility, as well as artistry.)
I finally understand all the things I do to be able to play Chopin. Finger sliding, changing fingers on the same note etc. Thanks.
Mr Ohlsson is a true master, we are lucky to have these kinds of recordings for us AND future generations , thank you 🙏🏼
THANK YOU. I immediately downloaded the entire Chopin works by Mr Ohlsson. I’m in another world already…aaah
That hummingbird fingers sound effect happen when I was listening to that piece bunch of birds flew across at that moment it was amazing synchronized
Thanks so much for this very useful episode 🙏
Thanks! I learned a lot and wow seeing Garrick’s hands move up close is a sight to behold
Garrick, Ben, as to innovation #12, catching a dissonance in the pedal and then the example of prelude #23: to me that "dissonant" has always been the logical start of the prelude #24, so it points ahead: which was maybe rare but not unheard of in composers before Chopin. That's only based on my hearing, I did not study the notes of the preludes. When I hear that "hanging dissonance" I immediately sit upright for the incredible passion of the 24th prelude ...
I think so too, but it’s worth noting that D minor is an unusual tonality for an F dominant 7th chord to “resolve” to. The E-flat falls to D, yes, but the other tones are not in tension with the d minor triad. In any case, there is a tradition of playing individual preludes on their own, including the F major. There’s no obligation to continue to the next prelude. Another interesting thing to note is that this harkens back to an older tradition of “preluding” where keyboardists wouldn’t bring closure to improvised preludes, but ended with a sonority that required some continuation or resolution in the larger work that followed. Back to your point, in this prelude (and only this one), I think Chopin is doing just that.
Excellent! Number 11 (flutter pedal) was new for me, even though I involuntarily used it already, without being sure if this is good practice. Will try it in one of my next recordings.
Garrick is the finest Chopinist of our age and we are so privileged to have him, but in my heart's desire, I want a video of Seymour giving his alternative viewpoint to everything that has been said 🪮
I really wish this chap had taught me the piano, he makes everything complex, so simple and logical ....
Garrick Ohlson is appearing an amazing pedagog as well as pianist. His wording is thorough but simple and with him playing Chopins pieces to demonstrate what he has juct covered, Wow, I feel like I attended a top notch pedagogy class for so much about Chopin's inventive techniques ! Thanks and very greatful for it 🙏🏻
What a wonderful video, Ben - thank you! And Garrick Ohlson seems like an amazing person as well as a glorious pianist.
thanks for sharing,such a pleasure listening to such a competent great pianist.Rather rare on you tube.Chopin really totally transformed the piano writing and the piano technique when you compare him to the predecessors it is so clear.
That was illuminating and beautiful, thanks for the huge insights in the master!
Thank you for this marvelous content. Please feature Maestro Ohlsson as much as possible. Very significant material, well presented.
I’m surprised he didn’t mention how Chopin realized the 2nd finger was the pivot and by using that you can cover a wider range on the keyboard examples: prelude in d minor op 28 no 4 and etude f minor op 10 no 9
Oh that’s a good one! Yes Chopin simply came up with too many novel pianistic maneuvers to cover in a digestible video! I guess I’ll have to make a 12-part podcast series that continues to delve into them ;)
Nice, thanks! But many of the mentioned finger techniques were actually prevalent in Bach times. For example, using thumb on black keys, substituting fingers in the same key, crossing the long fingers above the short, sliding from black to white (and even from white to white - a very common technique on organ). They were very handy as the organ keyboard is quite shallow, comparing to the piano keyboard.
I believe, those techniques were banned after Bach, in Haydn/Mozart time, and were rediscovered by Chopin.
Exactly! A lot of these techniques were already pioneered and used by baroque (and even late renaissance) keyboardists... Including the usage of the thumb on multiple keys: I was just playing a Johann Kaspar Ferdinand Fischer Toccata with huge block chords where you have to use the thumb in this way.
Listen to the start again:
‘Whilst Chopin may have not invented many of these techniques, he certainly championed them’.
I love this pianist for decades such brilliant musician !! ❤❤❤
the so-called 'phantom melodies' are simply a result of Chopin's arpeggiated lines being horizontal realizations of 3/4/5-voice contrapuntal progressions. he might add some ornamentations that further disguise this, but generally if you stack up the notes of each arpeggio to make a chord, and then play one chord to the next, you'll see multiple voices moving in a melodic fashion, rather than a single voice moving up and down in a less melodic fashion.
@@skern49 I agree with all of that except for the “simply” part. Such craftsmanship in voice leading amid complex textures is not as common among even other great composers.
Many thanks for the masterclass! Maestro Ohlsson has given an engaging and eloquent exegesis of Chopin.
I love the beautiful piece from the marche funebre. I first bought that by Arthur Rubinstein nearly 70 years ago.
Great, using snippets of your video-interview in my presentation video about the new pianoforte keyboard I have designed! Right on time!
You have no idea how this Podcast release is like Christmas and birthday at the same time for me, coming exactly at the right rime ❤
That excerpt you chose from 4th Scherzo to demonstrate how Chopin's music, as far as practicable, "fits into" the hand, it is truly a delight to play, it sounds scintillating. I've, in my inner world, interpreted them to be giggles following some slightly risqué phrase (which is repeated but with the last note sharped, like a play on words - and followed by another set of giggles). That eruptive forte in both hands at the bottom of that page sounds to me like a true laugh - the sort when you have to lean against lamp-posts and wipe your eyes.
It always gives me a pick-me-up playing those and making them as giggly as I possibly can.
This was excellent! Love it how he plays opus 25 5 at a speed Chopin probably played it.
What a brilliant and detailed expert analysis of the CHOPIN methodology.
GOD! This video is f*cking amazing! I love it! It's truly a free master class in Chopin! THANKS!
Wish I learned that 40 years ago... I had been searching techniques... Thanks for sharing this video, I appreciate your content much. ❤❤❤
Tremendous into a great composer!!!
Wow, beautiful, humorous, yet profound insights..I had no idea! Keep up the great work.
that transition at 8:42 though
25:59 Nice Chopin & List T-shirt. LOL.
The crazy thing is, so many of these techniques seem to be written into the music; ignoring ideology, they are the most natural physiological approaches for handling many passages!
Indeed. Chopin seemed to have the most intuitive understanding of what was possible on a keyboard of any composer in history.
Everytime i hear that passage from Ballad 1 im elevated and dying inside at the same time.
Thank you! Thank you for your talent and your development thereof. This is very interesting.
So hyped for this month!
Thanks, Ben Laude, for making this irresistibly wonderful artist so available to his fans. I was on reruns of all the Tonebase lessons and videos when this latest venture appeared. I’ve now watched #9 of the Innovations about 126 times. Love the overhead camera work of Garrick’s (if that’s not too familiar) playing. ❤
What an incredible video. Thank you very much.
Very good, thanks!
Thanks so much for all these great ideas!
Thank you for sharing this enjoyable and interesting video, Mr. Laude! I always enjoy hearing whatever Garrick Ohlsson has to say about playing the piano and piano music, and this video is no exception. I hope for lots more to come in the future! How wonderful it must be able to play the fioritura in Chopin's music. My right hand could never manage it, not to mention the problem of how you keep the left hand going more or less steadily while the right hand is suddenly supposed to play an explosion of notes over that steady left hand. Not for my poor digits unfortunately. But delightful to hear as played by Mr. Ohlsson and other pianists whose fingers are more "compliant."
For innovation 8 I think this is better attributed to Franz Liszt. Franz Liszt popularized orchestral writing for the piano through his piano transcription method, which often involved dense harmonies, loud percussive elements and you guessed it, three hand effect to capture all parts of the orchestra. The three hand effect became a staple of many virtuoso pianists like Liszt and Thalberg, it was less common in Chopin's music as Chopin disliked orchestral writing methodology and prefered the more intimate and delicate setting of a salon.
@@Putsmeiser yes, as Ohlsson says Liszt surpassed even thalberg and championed the effect. The point here is that Chopin actually anticipated the effect, even if he didn’t continue to exploit it.
@@benlawdy Thats a good point! As Liszt lived almost twice as long as Chopin, many of his more famous works were published after Chopin had already died, like his HR2. Regardless I think its more likely Liszt's three hand effect comes from immitating the orchestra rather than Chopin. Besides this the video had some excellent points that most people get wrong. Like number 6, I think its easy for students to overlook the importance of legato fingering as most pianists are not coming from a organist background and so they think they can just use the pedal for everything. Chopin had a deep appreciate for the 'eternal principles' of piano and legato fingering was one of those principles, used to provide clear voice leading. I also think his comments on innovation 9 is important because he relates polyrythems in chopins nocturnes with Rubato, which aligns with what Chopin's pupil Mikuli said about Chopins rubato, that the right hand floats freedly but the left hand sticks to the metronome. A lot of people falsly attribute Liszt's rubato of 'borrowing time' to Chopin. As far as the three hand effect I just wanted to give Liszt credit where credit is due, but overall great video! 😃
@@Putsmeiser of course, props to Liszt! And I agree I don’t think he got that from Chopin, on the other hand (no pun intended) he surely knew the piece and you never know how these things seep into an artist’s creative process. Maybe he noticed it in Chopin and it confirmed something he was already developing. Let’s also remember too that it’s common historically for two people to independently discover/invent the same thing around the same time, since all the influences and knowledge and modes of practice are in place for these things to be found - e.g. Leibniz/Newton with Calculus, Darwin/Wallace with Evolution (although those were a bit more consequential than the three hand effect!)
Funny one of them was sitting lower down.
I recently lowered my seat and found it way easier to voice some passages I used to struggled with.
One of the most useful technique insights I've seen! Thank you!!
In an older video some years ago, Tonebase explained that the Schumann story is an old wives' tale. (Even going as far as saying that his actual wife Clara was furious with people spreading it.)
We don't know what caused the injury and likely never will. What we do know for certain is that finger-strengthening devices could ruin hands in all kinds of ways except for the specific way in which Schumann's hands were ruined.
For further details, google Eric Sams' 1971 article in The Musical Times, from which I will offer this excerpt:
"The traditional explanation that a mechanical device for finger-strengthening permanently disabled a finger of Schumann's right hand is at variance with his own testimony in 1830-9, and with the recollection of his widow in 1889.
"Its sole source seems to be a book published in 1853 by Friedrich Wieck, which offers a passing comment on 'the fingertormentor'. The assumption has been that this same device caused lifelong injury. But Wieck does not say so. Nor does he name Schumann in this context, though he does elsewhere in the book. In any event Wieck is not usually rated the most reliable of witnesses about his son-in-law.
"Schumann the inventor of mechanical devices is also an unfamiliar figure. There were plenty of finger-strengtheners on the market at the time. According to Bötticher, Schumann ordered one in 1837, which would seem a strangely masochistic request from someone who had spent seven years as its crippled victim.
"Further, Clara Schumann's only clear recollection of the injury was that it was _not_ caused by any such device. Moreover, she was quite sure that the residual damage was to the _index_ finger - which would not in normal circumstances have needed strengthening.
"Schumann himself first refers to the trouble as an affliction of the hand, and only later as affecting a finger. He described it in such words as _Schwäche_ (weakness) or _Lähmung_ (paralysis), which connote loss of motor function from, say, rheumatism, rather than injury. He never mentions any sprain or pain; for the first two years there is little indication of even a temporary disablement.
"But in 1839 he told an admirer of his music that he had lost the full use of that hand: 'some fingers (no doubt because of too much writing and playing in earlier years) have become quite weak, so that I can hardly use them'. If that were really the cause, there should be many other recorded instances of such a disability; but Schumann's is unique.
"Perhaps he was too embarrassed to mention the use of a device. But one wonders what device short of a thumbscrew could possibly have had so prolonged and crippling an effect; and how such an effect could possibly have been chronic before it was acute, and harmed the hand before it hurt a finger. The textual evidence surely suggests that the hand trouble was gradual and its cause unknown."
@@alex_evstyugov thanks for all the info. I don’t realize it wasn’t substantiated. Indeed the story is quite prevalent among musicians and even scholarly types. I suppose it has a utility in earning against the unnatural pursuit of finger independence, but it certainly doesn’t honor Schumann’s actual biography!