The cheaper cable is definitely using composite. The SNES doesn’t really have component (YPbPr), but rather RGB, which so high-end cables can convert to component.
I think it does use the S video signal. I say that because it says on the packaging that it will not work on a Snes Jr, which only has a composite signal. I have a Snes Jr on the way that has a RGB mod installed but it might need an extra wire connected to restore the S video signal aswell.
Hyperkin has another HDMI cable for the GC/N64/Snes, with a white, black and gold colored box, that one cost me $50 dollars, but you could switch to 5 different images, and you could replace the HDMI cable, its the one that I recommend.
I bought a hyperkin few months back, for my GameCube. I like it, it works well. I got rid of my big’ol Philips crt, so I needed it. I still need to try it out on my snes and n64 (if I can ever find the n64). I still have a ton of 64 games I may have to sell off if I can’t find the console.
I think I posted my thoughts on the PS1 hyperkin in a previous review video you uploaded and this is an interesting follow up to that. The video is VERY DARK on my tv (a good example to show this is the dungeon level in Diablo) however, I bought an HDMI to VGA converter and plugged in the hyperkin that way on my TV and it looks great now and not dark anymore.
@@GearsAndTech Yes they can. I supppose it makes for a cheap solution if you have all 3 consoles but the audience your aiming at probably wouldn't want an svideo upscale for Gamecube.
It definitely only uses the S-video signal. Many PAL versions of the N64 only have composite output, and the Hyperkin won't work on them at all. It's pretty weird that most versions of the Snes support RGB output, meaning that most Snes consoles actually have not just component, but also S-video output, meaning that they have TWO different signals that are superior to the signal that's available on the console which is supposed to be an upgrade over the Snes! It's weird. At least the quality of the composite signal from the N64 was actually pretty good, at least as far as composite signals go, and arguably just as good as the S-video signal from a Snes, though you would need to load up a flash cart with a Snes emulator to be able to actually do an apples to apples comparison.
I think if you want to play on a Snes (as long as it supports RGB, and most do, or can be modded so that they do), then you should probably get an adapter which supports RGB, such as the RAD2X, imo. It is a big improvement, a bigger improvement than going from S-video to RGB on an N64.
Point of clarification: "This monitor is actually trying to do a resizing..." It's not the monitor, it's the cable. The first cable you are using is stretching the 4:3 aspect ratio into 16:9 then upscaling it. That's also why the jagged edges are particularly bad on it.
I've got a cheap generic multi out to hdmi adapter, that works just fine for snes although it's a little darker on screen you have to up your settings. It doesn't do a very good job for n64 though. I wonder if this is a good solution.
I was just curious if your cable has an issue with running on gamecube ? My cable works just fine with my N64 but whenever i try to run it with the gamecube i get this weird crackling sound with the audio.
Does the Size of the tv matter .. I just bought a Nintendo 64 and tried playing it on a 55 inch HDMI the graphics were way too blurry. Then I played it on a small monitor and it was perfect.
Hi 👋, great video bro! I had a question- if I use a hyperkin to hook up to my 65inch flatscreen 1080p tv, will the graphics look great for my n64? Because on your flat screen monitor screen it looked good. But if my flat screen is going to be 65inches does that make a difference?
@@GearsAndTech hey man I actually continued my research and heard great things about the Retro bit Prism hd converter as well as the Carby from insurrection I believe it’s called was wondering if you had a video on those ?
Your comparison shots led to confusion/uncertainty over which one you were describing as "better", as you were pointing to certain parts of the screen in the "Before" image, but seemed to suggest that you found particular attributes of the image preferable in the "After" image. Very confusing indeed. Also, 11 minutes to review two cables for a few details on the output of each did seem a little too long. It also may have been preferable to review the cables on as high an output definition television set as possible, as 720p is going to still leave many questions unanswered about how capable these cables are. I did like that you discussed particular issues on-screen that may become noticeable, such as the clarity or blurriness of detail that is very fine, though would have preferred not being told what an eventual customer would find "acceptable" as to the length of cable etc. - just a guide as to what types of situations it might work in would be acceptable.
I got a cheap rca to hdmi converter. all my systems play fine. issue i have is my nes and snes show a green bar down the middle. it goes away when i plug it into a crt tv so is it from the image stretching? or the converter?
I recently got mine and i'm dealing with a converter that flicker THE VISUAL. Like if i'm playing Mario 64, the screen will flicker but the audio will still be running. If anybody can help i'd appreciate it
absolutely any of these straight port to HDMI conversion cables/boxes will all have latency delay. Every, single, one of them. It's just how the technology works. Anyone that says different is either not as sensitive to picking up on latency or is straight up lying.
For a midrange and affordability I spent it on right cables I love the Hyperkin setup.
Glad to hear it's working well
I would spend the extra money to get a better video output, especially if you can use the same cable for three consoles.
The cheaper cable is definitely using composite. The SNES doesn’t really have component (YPbPr), but rather RGB, which so high-end cables can convert to component.
I think it does use the S video signal. I say that because it says on the packaging that it will not work on a Snes Jr, which only has a composite signal. I have a Snes Jr on the way that has a RGB mod installed but it might need an extra wire connected to restore the S video signal aswell.
@@stevenrod100i made one s-video cable by myself no problem picture looks better
Hyperkin has another HDMI cable for the GC/N64/Snes, with a white, black and gold colored box, that one cost me $50 dollars, but you could switch to 5 different images, and you could replace the HDMI cable, its the one that I recommend.
Oh yeah, that would be awesome. I'll check it out
I bought a hyperkin few months back, for my GameCube. I like it, it works well. I got rid of my big’ol Philips crt, so I needed it. I still need to try it out on my snes and n64 (if I can ever find the n64). I still have a ton of 64 games I may have to sell off if I can’t find the console.
Does it upscale to 480p?
N64 consoles are still relatively affordable I think.
I have a few extra 64 consoles ......I'm down for a trade, some games for a console
Any n64 games for sale?
The off-screen images are okay, but HDMI capture would be nice.
I have an hdmi capture card now that works great for future videos
I think I posted my thoughts on the PS1 hyperkin in a previous review video you uploaded and this is an interesting follow up to that. The video is VERY DARK on my tv (a good example to show this is the dungeon level in Diablo) however, I bought an HDMI to VGA converter and plugged in the hyperkin that way on my TV and it looks great now and not dark anymore.
Thanks for sharing!
Can you post a link? My n64 mortal combat is super dark
It's OK. All 3 consoles you mention have different outputs. I would go gaico hdmi for GameCube
They all can still use the same cable
@@GearsAndTech Yes they can. I supppose it makes for a cheap solution if you have all 3 consoles but the audience your aiming at probably wouldn't want an svideo upscale for Gamecube.
I do think Hyperkin is using the S video signal because it will not work on a Snes Jr. That only has a composite signal unless you add a RGB mod.
Would make sense
It definitely only uses the S-video signal. Many PAL versions of the N64 only have composite output, and the Hyperkin won't work on them at all. It's pretty weird that most versions of the Snes support RGB output, meaning that most Snes consoles actually have not just component, but also S-video output, meaning that they have TWO different signals that are superior to the signal that's available on the console which is supposed to be an upgrade over the Snes! It's weird.
At least the quality of the composite signal from the N64 was actually pretty good, at least as far as composite signals go, and arguably just as good as the S-video signal from a Snes, though you would need to load up a flash cart with a Snes emulator to be able to actually do an apples to apples comparison.
I think if you want to play on a Snes (as long as it supports RGB, and most do, or can be modded so that they do), then you should probably get an adapter which supports RGB, such as the RAD2X, imo. It is a big improvement, a bigger improvement than going from S-video to RGB on an N64.
Agreed
Great video man, but you have a lot of compression artifacts with both comparisons. I hope your next videos have direct capture
Super 64 combined with the mclassic is the way to go
I'll check it out
Point of clarification: "This monitor is actually trying to do a resizing..." It's not the monitor, it's the cable. The first cable you are using is stretching the 4:3 aspect ratio into 16:9 then upscaling it. That's also why the jagged edges are particularly bad on it.
Thanks for clarification
For Europe the hdmi one that says n64 to hd on ebay does say pal 1080P also it is not displayed wide but a little wider then 4 :3 but it is okay.
Hope it works for you
I hear a buzzing coming when using this adapter, has anyone find a solution for this?
16x9 looks weird because 4x3 ratio is what the consoles originally outputted, looks so much better at 4x3
Agreed
I bought this for my Nintendo 64 but it just shows a blue screen that says no signal no matter which I switch to 16:9 or 4:3... Any advice?
I've got a cheap generic multi out to hdmi adapter, that works just fine for snes although it's a little darker on screen you have to up your settings. It doesn't do a very good job for n64 though. I wonder if this is a good solution.
I had something similar. This one makes a big difference for snes but also n64
Did you experience any lag with the gameplay? I bought a cheap one on eBay and it has a horrible lag when I play my GameCube. Thanks!
Didn't notice any
I was just curious if your cable has an issue with running on gamecube ? My cable works just fine with my N64 but whenever i try to run it with the gamecube i get this weird crackling sound with the audio.
Unfortunately I don't have a gc to try it with
@GearsandTech dang but thanks for getting back to me. It just seems that anything other than AV to HDMI adapters don't work.
Does the Size of the tv matter .. I just bought a Nintendo 64 and tried playing it on a 55 inch HDMI the graphics were way too blurry. Then I played it on a small monitor and it was perfect.
Absolutely size matters.
Bigger it is the blurriness goes up
But, n64 is horrible to get a good picture with in the first place
@@GearsAndTechthank you for the response
Great video man.
Thank you
Appreciate it
Best cord for the N64? Thank u
Hi 👋, great video bro! I had a question- if I use a hyperkin to hook up to my 65inch flatscreen 1080p tv, will the graphics look great for my n64? Because on your flat screen monitor screen it looked good. But if my flat screen is going to be 65inches does that make a difference?
Yes, bigger tv will stretch the pixels out a lot, so it can look worse.
@@GearsAndTech Hi sorry for the late response here. Thank you for that information. That was helpful.
*it wont do progressive scan on gamecube games, so retro component cables will have to do.*
Shoot thanks man looking to go grab a GameCube with a game boy player to put the game boy advance games up on screen this should work perfect for that
Yep
@@GearsAndTech hey man I actually continued my research and heard great things about the Retro bit Prism hd converter as well as the Carby from insurrection I believe it’s called was wondering if you had a video on those ?
I honestly didn't see a difference in the picture quality of the two cables! 😂😂😂
I'm that case go with the cheaper option
Your comparison shots led to confusion/uncertainty over which one you were describing as "better", as you were pointing to certain parts of the screen in the "Before" image, but seemed to suggest that you found particular attributes of the image preferable in the "After" image. Very confusing indeed.
Also, 11 minutes to review two cables for a few details on the output of each did seem a little too long.
It also may have been preferable to review the cables on as high an output definition television set as possible, as 720p is going to still leave many questions unanswered about how capable these cables are.
I did like that you discussed particular issues on-screen that may become noticeable, such as the clarity or blurriness of detail that is very fine, though would have preferred not being told what an eventual customer would find "acceptable" as to the length of cable etc. - just a guide as to what types of situations it might work in would be acceptable.
I'll keep this all in mind for future videos
Gears and tech got a question
I have the hyperkin hdmi cable like on this video..got it hooked up to my super nintendo..but the screen says No Signal?
Does this look as bad in person as it does on youtube? There's noise all over the place, but I'm not sure if thats youtube compression.
It does, these cables are junk.
Send me a link with the hyper kin please
Will these scale up to say, a
55 or 60 inch as well?
Many thanks.
Yep. I'm using on 120 inch projector just fine
@@GearsAndTech
Fantastic!
I still have my original SNES and I want to bust it out when the kids come home for Christmas.
Many thanks!
How’s the lag? Is it noticeable?
No
Nice video I saw both of these and I want to get 1 for my N64 now I can see the difference 👍
Glad I could help
I got a cheap rca to hdmi converter. all my systems play fine. issue i have is my nes and snes show a green bar down the middle. it goes away when i plug it into a crt tv so is it from the image stretching? or the converter?
Seems like it's from the converter. Something isn't right with it
@@GearsAndTech Any recommendation for a good converter for a nes/snes?
Does your n64 go up to 1080p
No. Most are only going to do 720
@@GearsAndTech but will it still stretch out to 16:9
neat video topic
Glad you liked it
The colors are better on the first one...
Interesting perspective. I prefer clarity over color. But color is important too
@@GearsAndTech I prefer the colors, that's why I miss the crt era... :)
Has anyone tested how this looks in comparison to let's say the SNES classic by any chance?
Snes classic looks really good. This is good for those that want original hardware experience
I recently got mine and i'm dealing with a converter that flicker THE VISUAL. Like if i'm playing Mario 64, the screen will flicker but the audio will still be running. If anybody can help i'd appreciate it
Get a more stable power supply for the adapter.
Just gove the link and price for best output we can get 2024
Link in description
None of these are worth picking up, an OSSC or Retrotink is the only way if you really want to use a modern panel.
Crazy expensive though
Or just change the ratio on your screen to 4:3 as well...
I tried this for the Wii the picture quality was terrible and the screen randomly would go black. Won’t be buying more from hyperkin
Make sure it's not going through a hdmi switcher. They tend to drop out
@GearsAndTech it was direct connection to the TV. I ordered the component cable the difference is huge even with that.
But this is a smaller lcd jaja
Yes. I use it normally on 120" projector.
I bought one and it has lag
That sucks
absolutely any of these straight port to HDMI conversion cables/boxes will all have latency delay. Every, single, one of them. It's just how the technology works. Anyone that says different is either not as sensitive to picking up on latency or is straight up lying.
Stay away from Hyperkin
I've used many of them with no issues
0.05¢ cheap Chinese noname crap
Not that cheap though