How to improve the gauges on a Triumph Speed Twin | What could possibly go wrong?
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- How to improve the gauges on a Triumph Speed Twin | What could possibly go wrong? Now I'm not known for my mechanical prowess so taking the screwdrivers to something that isn't actually broken is a brave move on my part....stay tuned to find out how I got on.....
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OK please no more comments about ratchet spanners, oversize gloves, removing the headlight and protecting the paintwork.....everyone's a flippin' expert aren't they!! :0)
To be fair Mr flyer although not cheap they look much better than OE. Well done, you didn't naff it up. Better job with a camera than i could do.
TheMissendenFlyer armchair critics the lot of them.
hahaa we all know best when watching... bet most would not see those solutions until the same point you did though in reality! :-)
They look so much nicer than the originals. I don't understand why manufacturers glam stuff up when more often than not, especially on a retro.... simple is best!
Hi Andy,sorry you had to endure all that from the "armchair mechanics".Doing jobs on motorcycle binnacles,clocks etc is one blooming fiddly business for anyone!They are not the easiest things to work on me included!I thought you did fine after all you got the job done and that's the objective!Good on Yeh mate !
I've been a bike mechanic for 40 years and I can't count how many times I tried to short-cut something only to go back and take the long route. I must say tho, you show much more patience than I. There would have been a spanner/wall incident.
Thanks for the demonstration. It has prompted me to never do this.
he he, that wasn't really my intention but I can see why you'd come to that conclusion!
You’re an honest bloke Mr Flyer, most would only show a final cut with no errors and you definitely reflect what the average person goes through when doing something for the first time even if, they don’t want to admit it. Clocks are a big improvement, but that price ouch! Keep up the good work👍
They look fantastic!!
I enjoyed this Andy - you speak for 99.9% of us about how easy things are to do in hindsight! The new clocks look great, much better than the bling...👍🏻
148 quid!!! For a couple of gauge cards. Blimey.
Yes a pricey little number for sure - but they do look good!
Good job I bought these a while ago then!
Your as mechanical as me..... very entertaining!😂😂
TheMissendenFlyer looks heaps better IMHO.
@Mickey Mouse if you have cash, spend it. Fastest way out of a crises and businesses stay open. You don't have to behave the way the media tells you to on everything. They have too much power as it is
For the true "classic" look, as per my 1972 Tiger 650, you need a spot of condensation in the middle of each dial :)
I expect that will come!
@@TheMissendenFlyer No Andy, the condensation comes in an aerosol, takes 4 weeks to ship from the States, and is £50 extra! (plus import duty)
Yuk Yuk.
Top tip: The temptation of having a supply of Stella close at hand can prove counterproductive to good workshop practice.
willwye410 mmmmm Stella
Don't like Stella in bottles. Cans or draught, great but bottles no.
Wierd 😂
Respectfully disagree, having a beer break when your stumped is often helpful in avoiding throwing tools. Mellows you out a bit, and the break often results in a solution presenting itself.
Just like the "plastic throttle spacer" visually appears a rip off when you see the part for the cost, however what an improvement in throttle response
The replacement dials expensive but look great.......... and the OEM dials just too busy, so thumbs up TMF
Exactly Iain - it's that sort of upgrade, makes a huge difference relatively simply....
Having been in engineering,production,repair and maintenance for 40 odd years of my life I can assure you dropping tools, stripping threads and putting parts back the wrong way round is par for the course
For me it’s one of those jobs where half way through you think “ I wish I’d not started this , I’m going to naff it up “
Exactly!
Thank you Andy for not "having all the answers" in this video. It's nice to see someone that doesn't do everything perfectly when working on a bike. I mostly figure it out as I go. Part of the adventure actually!
Love it. Well done TMF.
3:12 - That made me feel so much better about the same thing happening to me every sodding time I try to work on the bike! 😂
Yes I'm afraid we can't all be brilliant engineers! I'm good at the theory - practice....not so much!
Andy, sometimes you make things harder then they have to be ;-) Removing the headlight was the obvious solution to your problem, but the way you did may have caused another one. You now need to completely readjust the headlight (putting some markers - eg. tape on the housing) would have avoided this ;-) I´m happy however, that it worked out well in the end :-) Stay safe
Enjoyed the video, dont worry about the experts, this was a good demo including the tricky bits. I agree those original dials are very fussy, good move Mr Flyer!
Nice to see Handy Andy at work!
Rather enjoyed that, humour and honesty in a you tube video. Even the reply to the experts "No more comments about...... was tongue in cheek.
Glad you spotted that!
Love how you struggled instead of dropping the headlight 😂.... But I shouldn't laugh I've tried to cut corners myself and avoid disassembly of obstructive parts.... You really got to think about production assembly times and process in reverse..... I will now remove parts instead of trying to struggle with obstruction.... As I get older not got the patience for it !👍🇬🇧
That was a good and honest video, really entertaining, I creased up watching it. Good work, great interview with Noraly as well.
Wow, What a difference! Looks terrific
Glad that I’m not the only person who says, “You bastard” and “Jesus Christ” whenever I do any kind of maintenance on my bike! I have an annoying habit of losing screws when they fall down into nooks unknown in the fairing!
Or it drops on the floor, you spend ages looking, eventually find at the other side of the garage, like the f..ka has grown legs and ran there😅
I'm glad it's not just me cursing and muttering! I'm always careful taking things apart and placing things in logical places but do you think I can find the belly pan fixings after stripping my fj1200? Not a chance, even after searching the entire garage, floor included!
Anyone else screaming "take the bloody gloves off they don't fit, and the bike won't have covid!!!!"....?
You can't be too careful, should have worn a face mask too really....
@@TheMissendenFlyer your in your own garage, and a bike lift should be on your shopping list still
agreed... soon as saw them, WHAT... you are dealing with all clean parts here....
I wear those same gloves when I work on mine
Fingerprints on the inside of my instruments would drive me insane
well done for having a go!
I was so.pleased to find this video, because I share your opinion about the original gauges. Congrats!
Thank you very much!
I wonder how many were yelling at their screen to take the headlight off...lol
At least two.
Firstly they do improve the look quite some margin however the price point does seem quite a bit off.
Also on the rev counter one I'm not sure I like the single red line as opposed to a red line area as with most bikes. Maybe it suits the bike better as it is not really the type for being taken to red line regularly id think. Cheers and stay well.
Much improved Andy!
Great job. I think it was worth the money & effort. Thank you for teaching us 👍
I agree the originals could be better, and these look very well made :) On a note, those gloves certainly didnt help you with taking the screws off... maybe put them on when you get to the more sensitive area (to avoid fingerprints on the dials, etc..) Anyway, cool DYI video!
I have to admit they do look better but £140 odd better?? Handy tip and save my finger nails when watching you work on your lovely bikes, please can you cover the bright, painted and other bike parts when using tools on the bike. An old clean towel or one of your older teaspring hoodies would do. One day you'll slip or drop a tool and live to regret not covering to protect the rest of your bike. Cheers Andy.
He's been watching Del! :)
I agree, much better, but a bit steep for what you get...
Yep. Always cover anything that can chip, dent, scratch or break. The one time I didn’t cover my tank when adjusting my levers and I dropped the bloody spanner onto tank. Luckily only chipped about 2 mm of paint. Peed me off so much I had to fix it.
@@Ian-xt1mb Super slippery hammered dog shite 😂
@@MattJonesGR9 you've been watching Matt 😅 Matt, spread it like butter💩
Not a fan of the bike in general but must admit you are spot on changing those clock faces.
I think they look great, I've just fitted some replacement Renthal grips to my R1, I followed a RUclips tip of using hairspray and I have to say worked a treat, went on easy and now rock solid. Hope we can all get back to riding soon.
When you get to take it out at night, take the spanner with you to adjust the headlight. You can do a pretty good job in a darkened garage, or against a wall, but you will probably want to "tweek" it when you see the beam on the road when actually riding it. ;-)
Indeed I will - cheers Pete....
As I think somebody else said,ratchet spanners, make life so much easier.
Or electric screwdriver - particularly for undoing.
Nice work Andy....well done. Did think this was going a bit far but the end result looks fab.👍👍
Huge improvement, new dials look fantastic!
Thank you - I agree!
thought you might have removed headlamp for ease of access andy ! or is it too much of a faff ? ps first time ive heard you swear ooer ahh you did remove it! sorry only watched very start before commenting
I got there in the end....
Sometimes the most obvious solution is the one that eludes you 'til the end. Been there.
Massive improvement Andy, other dials way to busy.
Glad you like 'em....
Totally agree. The before and after really sold me. I think they fit this type of bike brilliantly
I always enjoy these garage vids. It's the look of amazement and joy on your face when its finished and actually works. Agree they do look much better. Best wishes
You should see the number of videos that never get posted of me in the garage!!!!
Loved this video...very informative and entertaining. 👍🏼😃
Almost as confusing as last night's Prime Ministerial broadcast...
Well he's letting you ride on Wednesday, so stop moaning.
@@kwak1k But is he???
OH MY GOD TMF, this was painful to watch, please buy some decent tools. Dropping the headlight by undoing the two bolts on each side of the headlight bracket would've prevented having to worry about the headlight alignment but whilst it was painful to watch it was also bloody funny. Crack on !!
Thanks for the advice Kevin - if only I had thought of dropping the headlight!!
Yes, agree about the headlight removal. Now the alignment needs resetting!
Screaming headlight for quite a while. thanks for not editing your struggle out!
Excellent choice on the dials - really rings home the classic feel :-D
Yeah I thought so.....
"What could possibly go wrong"? As it's TMF, probably everything....
...that's what normally happens when I get the spanners out....
@@TheMissendenFlyer 😜
@@TheMissendenFlyer You should use 'What could possibly go wrong' slogan on some of your merchandise 😁
A lot of comments regarding the price.
Firstly the price hike is due to the greedy import duties, secondly those commenting do not take into account the designers time, special materials used ie. not just plastic from a diy store, postage and expensive equipment used to make them.
The fact is, you bought them and like them, simples.
Yes I agree. They look great and I don’t think they were ridiculously expensive. After all it’s not a £500 second hand junker! It’s all relative.
Hughie I agree: design time, materials, machines to manufacture them, a building for the machines, employees salary and health insurance, etc. Secondly, how many can you manufacture and sell? If you could sell millions of them for a small profit each, you would be okay. Realistically, the very best you can do is maybe 10% of all Triumph owners in the UK and USA. Small production run = high cost per unit. But for a bike you are going to keep forever, make it how you like it.
They look great Andy 😁👍👍
I fixed my gauges on 82 honda and forgot a part, had to do it all over! so good work
World's in a economic disaster oh well might as well send a fortune in two bits of plastic card 😂😂
Yes well I dint realise I was only getting two bits of card for the money! That said, they are two very good looking bits of card IMO....
It is more than just two cards. They print job is pretty complex. It´s not like they produce millions of these things, so you pay for a manufacture not for mass production
They come from Artonworks in Italy, 87€
I have no idea what about taxes in England now with the Brexit done
R. Roger Mischke yes your right 87 euro including shipping even though we have left Europe nothing has changed yet so no import tax so would be about £70 U.K. the us website is the first on list you have to go down several rows to get to the Italian site this is a lessen for us all !
Try using gloves that actually fit properly TMF.
Thanks for the advice!
Great video Andy and very helpful. You inspired me to tackle the job myself, which I did and competed the task a couple of days ago with no problems. So much cleaner and more classic look! (2023 Speed Twin)
They're good aren't they....
Very cool mod, TMF. I was skeptical at first as I really like the stock clocks, but I think the ones you chose actually look much cleaner and more classic. Oh and I enjoy your same brand of beer as well (Stella!) Good stuff as usual.
RIP off
Thing are only worth as much as people will pay for them
Looks really smart, I recon they're worth the money, and we all started somewhere with taking things apart.
The grouping of screws on the paper reminded of the time I pulled my iPhone apart. Every one was a different length 😢. Top marks for bravery 👍🏼
I'm digging the new face plates. Yes, the standard ones are just so busy. The replacements look SO CLEAN. Simple. Love it.
Glad you like them!
Interesting upgrade, looks good to me , thanks
Looks great, I didn’t even know you could change the gauge background like that so thanks for doing this video!
Nor did I until I found these....good aren't they!
For those hard to reach places use an “Engineer” DR-55 Mini offset ratchet. It takes standard hex screwdriver bits. The distance between the end of the bit and the back of the tool is a mere 27mm. £13 or so off eBay. Thanks for the walk-through and the “new” clock faces look excellent.
I admire your courage to do this TMF. It does look much better on that bike.
I'm braver than I look!
Great job Andy 👏
Thank you
Yes, looks much better.Good job!
So glad you put the before and after on there. I was watching bit thinking "they barely look different"...and now I wonder what in earth Triumph were thinking.
Indeed - they're what Triumph should have fit in the first place - similar to the RnineT or indeed Royal Enfield Interceptor
@@TheMissendenFlyer hmmmmm RnineT 🤤
Just saw an article in MCN saying the PM is about to lift some of the riding restrictions on your end. Good luck, stay safe, and happy riding!
Glad you dropped that light, was worried you might scratch it being so close!! They look great now they are done!! Good job!!
Thank you!
You are a braver man than me mate, well done 👍
I got caustic cleaner on the back cover of my gauges so I'm thankful for this video showing how easy it should be to replace since you mentioned dangling the headlight. I won't even have to disconnect the battery since I'm just replacing the cover! The bit of plastic was just $9 too which is a 1/3 the price of paint that *might* match.
Hi, re caustic cleaner, was it the glass cover that you replaced?
My glass cracked on my instrument cover but I can't find being able to only replace the cover as Triumph only sells the whole instrument cluster.
Were you able to only buy the the glass instrument cover? Thanks
A very entertaining video. Thanks for sharing.
Wow, what an improvement. Thanks for the video, also enjoyed the video with Norly(?).
You are very brave Sir, congratulations!
...or stupid, take your pick...
Can you do more of these, I haven't laughed so much in ages. Loved it when you dropped the 'bit' right at the begining and the normally very composed and polite Mr TMF swore For the first time on camera I think? Brilliant. Try changing anything behind the dash on a 2013 onwards FJR, that will really test your patience! 😂
..you can see why I don't do more of these! Glad to give you a laugh!!
Good on ya! Got there in the end 👍🏻
The old saying that great adventures suck when your having them seems to go hand in hand with the occasional agony of replacing parts. Only after can we look at these things with a proper perspective. Well done. Stella Artois is a great pilsner and one of my all time favorites. Glad too see you are on the proper track to a fulfilling life. Happy Trails.
Cheers John :0)
Those look much better than the stock dials. Very brave of you though! No screws left over at the end, you are a pro!
Thank you sir!
Excellent mod. Much easier on the eye.
I've done the tail tidy the throttle Mod off the back of your videos Big thumbs up to you well worth it ! But Wow £140 think i'll be saving the money this time. Cheers keep up the good work.
Thanks for taking the headlight off. Well done.
No not everyone is an expert, but the title suggested to me that you wanted to have fun with it. Loved the video and the result. Looking forward to the next notification. What's the red beauty in the background?
Nice upgrade really classy
Good video as always, braver than me. It looked like one of those jobs where you think why on earth did I start this! They do look better though.
This improvement is worth every penny. Looks like it should look.
I agree - really happy with it...
A Stella man!!! Well done!
Very cool. Really like the mod, looks great!
Cheers Scott - yes I’m really pleased with them, expensive mind.....
They look great, I couldn't see why you were changing from the original ones but I get it now the look is much more classic and classy. I was watching car SOS the other day and I was thinking they should do a series on motorcycle restoration you(presenting)and Guy Martin (mechanics) motorcycle SOS . Thanks for all your hard work and sharing another awesome video very entertaining.
Big improvement. Pricey but they look better. 👍
Well done for completing the task, and having the confidence to tackle it in the first place, Bit pricey for what you get though!
Beautiful and easier-to-read result! A tip on disassembly: Get a cheap *plastic compartmented box* , such as for small fishing tackle,
and make a map of the compartments using numbers. Then, as you disassemble the complex thingy with its dozens of fasteners,
you can use new compartments for each type of fastener while over-writing the number on the map with a description/location of
the fastener. The numbers will even help if the sequence of disassembly/assembly is important. I replaced the motherboard in a
laptop PC that way, and it worked like a miracle. And, of course... a video also helps. :-)
Nice one well done 👍
I wasnt too sure at first Andy but on the comparison at the end of the video they do look much better and a lot easier on the eye when checking speed etc. Cracking video as usual mate ideal for anyone thinking of doing the conversion. I did a conversion to white dial on 1999 r1 rev counter years ago from a company called dynamite I saw at the nec bike show trouble was the needle was white too some red nail varnish sorted that out a treat
Great Video, thank you - I find all you videos Incredibly Informative, especially regarding the Speed Twin. Had mine just over 12 months now and I bought the Throttle spacers after watching your video - Thank you for that video also - Great Improvement and yes I used the discount code :-) Not sure if I'm tempted to buy the new clocks as of yet, might watch the video a few times yet before I decide :-) - Again I wouldn't have known you could even swap the clocks until today or about the throttle spacers so once again, thank you!
Glad to have been able to help, thanks for watching and for stopping by....
They look so much better than the originals, worth the cost IMHO, good job.
ok very nice , love the classic look
Fair play, and with full honesty hats off to you, I had some done a few years ago to get KPH to MPH but I chickened out and sent the clocks off to the firm, they were in the UK, sorry can't remember that far back (1997) but received them back in a couple of days. Knowing my luck I would completely trash mine and end up with a large bill.
Well done Bud, the end result was worth the effort imho, the price is steep, but if it makes you smile every time you ride the bike then it’s well worth it.
Yes I was initially SHOCKED AT THE PRICE, BUT HAVING FITTED THEM i'M VERY HAPPY WITH THE VALUE....BUGGER - caps lock troubles - sorry....
Hi good little job on the bike the after definitely looking better than the before 🤗🏍🤗🏍👌👌
TMF, You seen to have the same problem as me, when i can’t get out on my bike for a while, i start taking it to bits. New dials look good 👍👍
Very useful and asthetically pleasing mod. It's the user interface you look at when riding all the time. I'd say it's worth five or more times the amount you pay for it.
Inspired by this video I contacted the manufacturer in Italy which resulted in a significantly reduced price beeing inside the european union.
Keep on the good work, l8er.
Well done you - I wish I'd thought of that!
Soo much better!! There are very few new bikes with a nice set of clocks in this days.
Hey I like that writing on paper technique. Nice!
I have just ordered a new speed twin can’t wait.
Good choice! Congratuations!
Yes great job, brings faces closer to the smiths dials look of the 70,s. Lovely.
Yes they do - thanks for watching!