just imagine, youre a raider, you just got past the castle wall and youre face to face with an archer, he drops his side arm and cant get it back. you charge and next thing you know you are being beaten with a long bow, unstrung, basically a big ass stick and he just refuses to stop, your friends come in and he charges them and you watch as he mercilessly beats them to the ground with what is basically a stick
Well the quarter staff is nothing but a stick and they are incredibly effective even against armored opponents. Only problem is since ethey are wood they are prone to breaking especially blocking and hitting metal unless it is also reinforced with metal.
RobRuckus65 Actually, a well made wood quarterstaff can be v e r y hard to break, it all depends on the wood and the quality of the craftmanship, a well made one, created from a strong and durable wood, will nearly never break in combat
Short version: Anything vaguly stick shaped can be used to hit people with but unless it's been designed for that purpose it's probably going to have drawbacks (pun totally intendid)
"... and he died when verifying the saying 'The pen is mightier than the sword'. His lab notes were later found, with last entry written by a weak, trembling hand - '... but only when the sword is very small, and the pen very sharp...'" - Terry Pratchett
Skall... I have to say, you've gone above and beyond, putting your own body on the line! I'm definitely satisfied that the sling isn't as good as I thought it could be. The whole "bounces back in your face"-thing is kind of debilitating for any melee weapon!
With long slings (1-2 m), the bouncing effect can be slightly different, possibly bouncing in such a way that it does not hit your body. Real bodies do not have the same recoil characteristics as the rubber doll. Still think it's a bad melee weapon.
"The whole "bounces back in your face"-thing is kind of debilitating for any melee weapon!" But realistically that doesn't really matter because if the projectile bounces back with enough force to seriously hurt you, it would have had enough force to incapacitate your opponent which would make it a reasonable way to defend yourself. The question really is about the accuracy and amount of force you can generate.
the ammount of Dwayne "the rock" Johnson jokes that came to my mind from slingshot part of the video, should probably make me want to stop drinking......for me, it's good reason to start. Good to see i'm not only one making terrible puns 5:06 "My suspicion is that the rock will fly out on first hit and WHOOP YOUR CANDY ASS FOR DARING TO WRAP ARROUND THE PEOPLE'S CHAMP"
@@morriganmhor5078 a morningstar is a spiked mace, a solid weapon with a haft. A slingstaff is a sling attached to a stick. A sling is two pieces of rope with a rock in it. See the difference? It's in the haft. Sure, you could whip people with a sling staff, and it likely wouldn't bounce back and hit you because of the added reach. But actually using the staff would be so much more effective - and you simply can't compare a morningstar to a sling. The staffsling is the bridge between the two.
@@morriganmhor5078 Yeah, are you talking about flails, the "not actually a combat weapon" weapon? That might have been a useful tool for a knight to drop peasants, like a terror weapon, but it wasn't really used in combat precisely because it would bounce around and you'd constantly lose control. Mace is far superior.
I would just like to say that you just saved my RPG character. I was playing a tabletop game called "the riddle of steel" where you can't really tank a hit (it aims for realistic combat, and actually does a pretty good job) and my archer was cornered. It was an ambush so I didn't have my sword and my DM claimed the bow would be useless in a fight. I showed him the previous video and we came to a lot of the same conclusions you mention in this one. Then, with my now no longer useless bow in hand I managed to barely survive the encounter and survive another day.
Melee sling attacks against flesh would probably bounce less, though it still wouldn't be a very good idea. Seems like a last desperate attempt from someone about to be run through
Any idiot that doesn't have a backup close range weapon to go along with his distance weapon such as a sling, deserves death. Just a pile of fist sized rocks, thrown at an attacker's head, can be better than an improvised flail. A 1-2" thick and 3-5' long tree branch makeshift club/staff is better than a sling flail.
@Karol Jeske tbh though, that wouldn't change the outcome of a sling being a terrible weapon. you still have to aim with a small weapon against a moving, unpredictable target that, if armed with an actual melee weapon, also has greater reach than you, all while aiming at a smaller area of their body to have a chance of actually stopping or more likely just stunning them. not to mention that unlike purpose built weapons like flails, which have a handle that puts a good distance between where your hand is and where the ball swings to prevent self-harm, your arm is pretty much the handle for a sling-flail, so even if you actually hit them it's basically a guarantee that you're also gonna hit yourself (unless the rock flies out and away, but i presume you wanted that to not happen since you brought up a sling with a better basket) personally, i'd just throw the rock in their face and take my chances with unarmed. or run.
@Karol Jeske The purpose of the experiment is to use the projectile as a melee weapon, meaning that the rock, pellet or whatever doesn't leave the sling.
Staff slings would also be more common in many historical contexts. At which point you've got a 4-6foot thick sturdy staff with optional spike on the end. Used as a flail it would be lethal, but just the stave would be a decent enough weapon for defence.
I think I said it once, but I'll happily say it again: I enjoy watching your videos not only because I enjoy your content, but also because I think you're a great person. Being willing to admit that you were wrong and to correct yourself is a quality so few people have, but it's one of the qualities I personally respect the most.
Ssshhhh its only to create more videos for that youtube ad money Nah I am kidding. Skall is amazing. I forgot how I found him, I think it was through Metatron and I am so glad I did
Believe it or not my favorite TTRPG called Pathfinder actually has a feat for this. It's called Empty Quiver Style and it lets you use bows,crossbows or two handed firearms as if they were Heavy Maces. Also lets you use stuff like hand crossbows and one handed firearms as if they were light maces. What's even cooler is that you can switch between melee and ranged attacks with this weapon without penalty, even during the same round. So you could hit someone who has closed in on you with the bow,then take a 5 foot step backwards and shoot them if you wanted to or shoot someone else if you take the guy down by hitting him.
@@mikedanielespeja6128 That would require the enemy to have a shield you can snatch, then throw down some convenietly close stairs and ''snowboard'' on it. While proceeding to shoot some more arrows, naturally.
This is why I love pathfinder. You can do pretty much anything, it's wonderful for building wacky concepts. A few days ago a friend and I discovered you can use the barbarian's rage power "Body Bludgeon" to beat a mothafuckah with anothah mothafuckah. But that's not all, oh no - mixed with other class abilities/feats, you can even swing this victim to batter ranged spell attacks and even siege weaponry clean out of the air. Just imagine your ally swinging an enemy around, panicking in their arms, only for your friend to slam them into a trebuchet stone midflight, knocking it out of the air and instantly mangling his victim. That's fucking Pathfinder, y'all.
You could also use your opponent's weapon to cut the bow string. Honestly I just wanted to see you using the Skyrim / Oblivion bow melee strategy. AKA punching while holding a bow.
Ah, but you have failed to account for the the sling user being of prestigious skill, disengaging with thine aggressor and revealing a throwing knife alongside some twine. Upon securing the knife to sling via twine he may then reengage and thus armed with a *poke on a rope* be found unstoppable. Fear the *sting on a string.*
@@Sableagle You'd have to be a special kind of stupid to believe a horse would trip over your flimsy stick. Also cavalry charges didn't occur with one horse only, you parry a lance another one hits you... and the horse steps on you.
At one point skall did a video on a certain technique with the quarterstaff, I think it was called the guardbreaker? Where the user would swing the quarterstaff with one hand in an absolute haymaker, I reckon that would work for the bow as well.
That sounds about right. I've seen the sort of one handed swing you're talking about. One would think a two handed strike would hit harder. They'd be forgiven, but centrifugal force is a powerful thing. Extend your arm to it's full length and choke down on the staff for as much reach as possible, and swing it hard as possible, with proper body mechanics in mind. You'll probably knock them out in just that one single hit. Frankly, it's terrifying.
@@kylestanley7843 Skall showed it in one of his videos, and it blew through his opponent's guard. The only reason he wasn't dead from those is because Skall had him stand out of measure.
Like he said here, though, bows usually lack the mass or length of a quarterstaff, and also are far more flexible. So it'd be something, but notably worse, I think.
@@SonsOfLorgar can still be used as garotte whilst strung to the bow ottoman style.Put the string on the neck of your opponent then rotate the bow until it binds the throat.Then they die.
-So... your character is a berserk... -Yep. He will have ability to deal more damage, but he will get some damage too. -Aaaand... He uses sling in melee? Yep
Spaniard: "Can you help me sir? I got lost on the way to the bathroom. What continent am I on?" Florida Native: *Fires arrow at him* Spaniard: "Hey I remember when I use to fight with weapons like that. Not the best against armor." Florida Native: *Slams the bow into him* Spaniard: "Mommy! The naber kid is picking on me!"
potatomato :p The death toll varies my dude. It's not always "oh shit im going to die because i caught the boogyman disease." That's not how it works. Especially where i live, in America. It's suspected the number of infected people across america is larger than that of those who are dying from it. Some people even already have covid antibodies, which means they caught it, didn't realise what it was, fought it off, and got healthy again. Now i will not say that this is the case for everywhere and everyone. Because that's stupid. Some countries have death tolls in the thousands. Usually countries that don't practice basic hygiene. So don't go assuming i don't think it's serious or anything. Because in some areas, in some cases, it is. But where i live, it's almost a non-issue. But of course the media has to make everyone think it's a utterly massive issue and everyone's going to die, oh no doomsday bullshit and such, because that's what they do. (Don't have a very high opinion of most American news outlets.) But hey, believe what you want to about it. Because you're going to anyway. :D
Super important not to overstate the mortality rate of COVID-19. It's important not to keep socially isolated to stop the spread so that people don't die and so the hospitals aren't overwhelmed with those people that need intensive care and high-dependancy care. But also important not to be overly anxious about it.
Don't worry about not always considering all perspectives. The comments are a huge think tank, you are just one person who can't possibly think of everything all the time. Making videos like this is cool because it shows that you read the comments and make use of the community.
I dont think your first video was wrong or bad. But HUGE thanks for being willing to question yourself. It definitely adds to your credibility - not subtract from it - to admit doubt and retrial. First saw this channel two weeks ago and I must say I've become a regular watcher. Thanks!
I think a lot of hand to hand combat is just who did the best with what they had in the given moment , skill is always a factor don't get me wrong... but sometimes RNG favors the brave.
Indonesian sumpitan, which is blowgun/spear hybrid, was quite good in melee. Like that web.prm.ox.ac.uk/weapons/index.php/tour-by-region/oceania/asia/arms-and-armour-asia-65/index.html or that www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/ewbanks/catalogue-id-srew10048/lot-13366b37-712b-4599-86c2-a45201353ebc
Here are more sumpitan photos/drawings www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=20774 and www.alamy.com/young-kayan-man-who-has-just-caught-a-piglet-with-a-poison-dart-from-his-blowpipe-borneo-se-asia-then-part-of-the-british-empire-6-of-6-image235045840.html and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iban_people#/media/File:COLLECTIE_TROPENMUSEUM_Portret_van_Iban_Dajaks_waarvan_de_man_in_krijgskleding_in_de_garnizoensplaats_Long_Nawan_TMnr_60034030.jpg and c8.alamy.com/compes/ph00m6/vintage-impresiones-en-blanco-y-negro-en-dos-columnas-subtitulo-romanzoff-islenos-a-la-izquierda-que-representa-un-fuertemente-tatuado-el-hombre-y-la-mujer-desde-las-islas-marshall-cada-vistiendo-faldas-de-mat-cintillos-y-grandes-pendientes-y-yak-guerrero-y-dusum-a-la-derecha-que-describia-los-dayak-de-dos-hombres-el-hombre-a-la-izquierda-vistiendo-vestido-ceremonial-completo-incluyendo-un-orangutan-manto-un-tocado-de-plumas-y-sosteniendo-un-escudo-y-sumpitan-cubierto-con-mechones-de-cabello-humano-y-el-hombre-a-la-derecha-vistiendo-ropa-ordinaria-compuesta-de-collares-taparrabos-y-una-llanura-spear-publicado-en-john-george-wood-de-volumen-la-incivilizada-ph00m6.jpg
Could be a cool fight scene where an archer attempts to parry a sword with his bow but the sword cuts the string and the bow whips into his face as it loses tension
Y'know. Considering how alot of comic book archers have bows with absolutely ridiculous draw weights (Hawkeye's bow for example is 250 pounds!), their ability to be used as melee weapons become oddly reasonable...
@@dumnor I'm not an expert on archery but on a ridiculously stiff bow would that mean the string itself would stretch/break before the bow bends? Unless the string is also made of something crazy...
my metal recurve, unstrung would be evil. Korean, Chinese and Japanese martial arts used to teach (some still do) grappling with small rope, towels, etc that could be applied to the sling.
nujevad40 - I think it would apply because (if successful) you could briefly neutralise or even (if you were super lucky) disarm the guy. However, in most cases this would fail against a sword but might have a slim chance against a polearm if used badly by the other guy.
Thank you for doing a followup video. At least one of the accounts from Garcilaso de la Vega does specify that three or four blows from a bow held in two hands to a helmeted head drew significant blood. The Spanish word used is "celada," a historical term for helmet connected to the English word "sallet." Of course, the armored Spaniard injured by these blows was still able to respond with two sword thrusts through his attacker's chest, which proved quickly fatal. Three or four full blows from a dedicated two-handed war club most likely would have done worse. These were effective against armored Spaniards in other engagements in the Americas, such as against Mapuche warriors. Serving as cavalry, Francisco Núñez de Pineda y Bascuñán gave a firsthand account of these clubs from Cangrejeras 1629: multiple blows knocked him off his horse & left him senseless on the ground with the backplate of his armor jammed against his ribs. The Mapuches took him prisoner.
Okay, been watching your videos at random for a while now but seeing the humility here admitting people aren't perfect (including yourself) convinced me to subscribe. PS. always did enjoy that outro music XD
Using bow against foes in melee: I always imagined some fancy move with a very strong bow of overhead string choking someone from the back (you also being back-to back with the enemy and leaning forward gripping the bow to choke them) :D Hitman style
That would be cool but, if they still have a weapon in reach they can just take it in reverse grip if it's bladed and stab you in the ribs or hit somewhere painful if it's a blunt weapon. It doesn't work with a polearm but they would probably at least have a dagger as backup. So, it's cool but dangerous.
burgern one thing though. Wouldn’t stringed bows be extremely unwieldy in melee? Not to mention the string could get cut and spring the thing out of your hand.
Hello Skall, great video as always. I have a suggestion for you. Here in Brazil, specifically in the state of São Paulo, we have a very specific kind of machete named "Facão Sorocabano", I think you will really appreciate this blade by the uniqueness of it when compared with other machetes, and the most important is the history behind the blade. Spoiler: Unfortunately this blade don't have a pommel. Keep the great work and thanks for the videos!
14:26 when your doctor comes in, says "you got Corona but everything is going to be alright", but you See the avengers coming in and 4 black guys with a coffin are dancing on the hallway
@skallagrim That's super cool that you engage your followers like this. We all learn from each other and sometimes have ideas that others don't. Thanks for another educational and entertaining video!
Talking about the slings, one of the book series I've read called Redwall makes mention a few times of how the woodland creatures would get up close in a melee and use sling pouches still loaded with a stone as a bludgeon, I always figured they were gripping up close to the pouch to keep the stone in and essentially using it as a slight extension of just a rock in the hand..I saw it as kind of the quarters in a sock method of beating some one cause you got no other choice.
Seeing you with a fencing helmet makes me want to see how they manage against medieval weapons. They're very easy to see though, but I wonder how good they are against real weapons.
@@Underjordiskentitet It looks identical to a HEMA mask. And if you hadn't noticed, HEMA practitioners don't tend to use actually sharp weapons. They're designed for training long swords, not actual ones. It can of course survive blunt impact, but is the metal strong enough to withstand a sharp edge?
At the HEMA school I attend to, every so often we play a for fun game called "the dice of fate." Where you get to roll dice to see what weapon you get to wield. Obviously this sometimes results in some mismatches. The time that really comes to mind is when I rolled dagger, and the other guy rolled sabre. The other guy Torbin, is a big big guy. Very strong, and more experienced than me. I'm more of a medium guy. Kinda strong, not exactly fast on the feet, but faster than Torbin, and one of my few talents is good judgement of measure. I knew I didn't have much chance, but decided to give it my best try. I kept at range and circled, and faked a few lunges, trying to get him to over-commit on a swing. He did swing, but he never over-committed or reached or did anything that slowed down his recovery. I managed to push aside a thrust with my dagger, dodged the provoked swings, but never even got close to closing to tangle his sword arm or land a thrust before he managed to tag my weapon hand with the sabre when I got backed into a corner. A knife is not a winning proposition against even a medium sized one hander. You're not blocking or parrying anything and evasion is harder than most people think. Between that and the reach advantage giving them the initiative, you don't have much hope.
If we're talking someone heavy, who's wearing armor (which admittedly isn't that heavy), and wielding a fairly heavy weapon, and they DID do just a crazy rush like that, you could probably sidestep out of the way. They'd have a lot of momentum built up, so they might not be able to change directions or stop from a full speed charge all that quickly, so you might be able to jump them from behind before they can recover...
according to Xenofon's book of the Myriads , the Rhodian slingers were always combined with light cavalary , they took their shoots and then jumped in the back of the horses to exfiltrate . Cretan archers on the other hand used small swords or axes . greetings from Greece !! keep up the good work
On the sling, one thing people seemed to not pick up on, is you were also presuming they had already FIRED their shot. If sling-man is being rushed, and the dude already hurled his pebble, I highly doubt he is going to have time to load up another and prepare for the melee. On the point of skill; I really don't care how skilled the fighters are, a dagger vs a sword or a spear is SO disadvantaged, that I highly, highly doubt that the dagger guy is going to be able to take him out. And even if he CAN do some damage, the opponent is likely to have some armor that the dagger won't be able to break through. So on throwing knives/daggers/etc. I agree 100% with your assessment.
Keep in mind that slings are usually a lot longer. The strings are supposed to be the length of your armspan, so if the pouch is large because of you having long arms, you could fit a large rock inside, and really crack down on someone's head.
Another good weapon in melee: a sword! Come on ma dude, a bayonet is not a ranged weapon, it's a melee weapon attached to a ranged weapon. It's like strapping 2 knives on each end of a bow.
Hey Skall. Since you've been looking at odd weapons of other cultures of late I'd like to suggest you look into the Sodegarami. This was a pole arm like weapon used in feudal Japan by Samurai and their retainers. It's specific function was to be a 'Man-catcher' and the way it did this feat was brutal indeed. Multiple twisting hooked prongs, a curling meat hook and flesh rending barbs adorn the tips of these weapons. I'm sure if you could get your hands on one or something similar it would make for an entertaining display.
@@Dandandandandandandandandanda1 yes, and it was quite enjoyable. But I want Skallagrim's video, since he is Norwegian and looks something like a Viking.
Scall! Bowyer here, medieval english longbows, found in the ship (forgat name) had Horn pieces at Both ends. At the Bottom nock, do it could be put in the ground at rest, and the top nock was used for stabbing. Using a bow of 2 metres, you could stab in some weak points of the apponents armour (excuse my bad english).
Depending on how strong the sling is, it could be used similarly to how someone would a belt in martial arts. There are some schools that teach people how to use them.
Another historical accounting for Indian bowman ship can be found in the recounting of Cabeza de Vaca, a Spanish conquistador who was one of the first to enter Florida. He also details the bows as massive and discusses the sheer height and strength the Indians had that allowed them to shoot them. He however maintains that the armor his men were wearing wasn’t sufficient. Check chapters 4-6 for the reference.
Speaking of nerdy rants, you gave me some excellent ideas for RPG maneuvers. bowstring garrote, namely. And now I really want to see how others react to smacking someone with a bow.
Regarding the sling, there is a type of sling called the staff sling, and, well, it's a sling attached to a staff. For that one, one could probably use the staff at melee range.
You could say that the limitations shown by that close range test of the sling was the reason for why the sling-staff was implemented, which makes it a hybrid of the unstrung bow’s abilities you praised, while keeping the ability of being able to continue firing ammunition later (if they are able to dispatch the assailant) without having to scavenge a new bow that’s still strung or take the time to re-string your spent bow; given that they’re not out of the battlefield if they were in this scenario to begin with, that’s not viable. I say this with only basic insights into the written stories of king David, being a Sheppard David would have a staff and would most likely make the practical choice to combine the two tools of defense he had available to keep his sheep safe in the event of a quick wolf.
I've used my sling in the woods to clear brush, seemed to work well most of the time. Although, I'm also used to slinging stones. I use a rubber inner-tube sling which grabs the rock a little bit
THROWING SPIKES, SKALLAGRIM. I got my own, 12 inchers ones, I left a comment about em on the other video ! Theyre the perfect weapon for stabbing and throwing at point blank and up to 10 meters in no or half spin techniques. Very cheap to make you just take a cement nail, cut its head and then sharpen its end. Actually I also develloped my own technique to do a point blank throw of 4 or 5 throwing spikes in a grouped throw, it can and has pierced 1mm scrap metal and got a 1 to 2 meter range or almost point blank.
I love how you managed to find a supper old Florida man head line. "Florida man stikes with bow and causes bleeding"
The Florida Man bloodline is an ancient and powerful one.
Wait, where is that?
@@tigershark8867 Andrew Jackson: "Okay Florida Men, move to Oklahoma now."
Florida Men: "Naaaahhh."
If you write Florida man on the Google search bar anything you write after that is true 100% of the time.
“Florida man slaps fully equipped conquistador with bow and wins”
just imagine, youre a raider, you just got past the castle wall and youre face to face with an archer, he drops his side arm and cant get it back. you charge and next thing you know you are being beaten with a long bow, unstrung, basically a big ass stick and he just refuses to stop, your friends come in and he charges them and you watch as he mercilessly beats them to the ground with what is basically a stick
How sharp was the stick
@@gamerguy6990 Sharpness V
Steve used pummel
It was somewhat effective
Well the quarter staff is nothing but a stick and they are incredibly effective even against armored opponents. Only problem is since ethey are wood they are prone to breaking especially blocking and hitting metal unless it is also reinforced with metal.
RobRuckus65 Actually, a well made wood quarterstaff can be v e r y hard to break, it all depends on the wood and the quality of the craftmanship, a well made one, created from a strong and durable wood, will nearly never break in combat
@@luciencartervo5356 especially with an enchantment of unbreaking
Short version: Anything vaguly stick shaped can be used to hit people with but unless it's been designed for that purpose it's probably going to have drawbacks (pun totally intendid)
I see what you did there, you cheeky bastard!
Noice
ben Jovi haha. Nice
drawbacks- it shoots pointy sticks, lol
"... and he died when verifying the saying 'The pen is mightier than the sword'. His lab notes were later found, with last entry written by a weak, trembling hand - '... but only when the sword is very small, and the pen very sharp...'" - Terry Pratchett
José Rizal?
"The pen is mightiest when it writes orders for more swords." -The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries, maxim 58
@@lorenzogabrielaquino4806 LUPANG HINIRANG
@@MrHangman37 just 'for swords' not 'for more swords'.
Definitely applies here.
Archer while unstringing their bow: oh, you’re approaching me? Instead of running away?
Barbarian: I can't cut you in half without getting closer.
@@wutmagna7222 Bard: *REEEE*
Is that a JoJo's reference?
So you’ve chosen... death.
@@charlysilvera *YES YES YES YES*
11:18
*Skal:* But the thing is, he ain't no slouch either.
*Armless, Legless Torso:*
"I'm invincible!"
This but a scratch
@@wills9 damint time tree thats my line
Bob has been with the blood and iron school. He knows what he's doing
"Alright, I'll do you for that!"
All right, all right, you've convinced me. I will allocated some budget to outfit ranged troops with arming swords or something...
The fact that it took you this long to figure that mashes you a HORRIBLE general
@@ZergOverlord9374r/ whoosh 😂
@@juliandejesus2269 You're the one who got wooshed, friend.
julian de jesus cringe
@@juliandejesus2269 PRANKED
Skall... I have to say, you've gone above and beyond, putting your own body on the line! I'm definitely satisfied that the sling isn't as good as I thought it could be. The whole "bounces back in your face"-thing is kind of debilitating for any melee weapon!
Still better than a shuriken though
Or, Skall could use a bit more practice with a child's toy: ruclips.net/video/Kx12rlhr_5M/видео.html
With long slings (1-2 m), the bouncing effect can be slightly different, possibly bouncing in such a way that it does not hit your body. Real bodies do not have the same recoil characteristics as the rubber doll. Still think it's a bad melee weapon.
"The whole "bounces back in your face"-thing is kind of debilitating for any melee weapon!"
But realistically that doesn't really matter because if the projectile bounces back with enough force to seriously hurt you, it would have had enough force to incapacitate your opponent which would make it a reasonable way to defend yourself.
The question really is about the accuracy and amount of force you can generate.
Using a sling for melee... the sling user may as well just reach down and pick up reasonably sized stone and attack with that
Hence the coffin dance lol
So you haven´t seen morningstar in action and neither the slingstaff.
the ammount of Dwayne "the rock" Johnson jokes that came to my mind from slingshot part of the video, should probably make me want to stop drinking......for me, it's good reason to start. Good to see i'm not only one making terrible puns
5:06 "My suspicion is that the rock will fly out on first hit and WHOOP YOUR CANDY ASS FOR DARING TO WRAP ARROUND THE PEOPLE'S CHAMP"
@@morriganmhor5078 a morningstar is a spiked mace, a solid weapon with a haft.
A slingstaff is a sling attached to a stick.
A sling is two pieces of rope with a rock in it.
See the difference? It's in the haft. Sure, you could whip people with a sling staff, and it likely wouldn't bounce back and hit you because of the added reach. But actually using the staff would be so much more effective - and you simply can't compare a morningstar to a sling. The staffsling is the bridge between the two.
@@morriganmhor5078 Yeah, are you talking about flails, the "not actually a combat weapon" weapon? That might have been a useful tool for a knight to drop peasants, like a terror weapon, but it wasn't really used in combat precisely because it would bounce around and you'd constantly lose control. Mace is far superior.
Think the answer at the moment is we need more spear & shield stalemates, to maintain social distancing at the moment
Social distancing is pointless, we need more bow duels
@@NyanHomeschoolGirl17 no we need sheld dules
@@NyanHomeschoolGirl17 I'd say spear standoffs are quite pointed arguments by default.
*FORM THE SOCIAL-DISTANCING PIKEWALL!*
who will win:
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1:55 Behold more cases of Floridamen being Floridamen.
Breaking news: Floridaman beats forein visitor to death with a bow.
The original floridamen
So what youre saying is that its not the man its the florida?
I would just like to say that you just saved my RPG character. I was playing a tabletop game called "the riddle of steel" where you can't really tank a hit (it aims for realistic combat, and actually does a pretty good job) and my archer was cornered. It was an ambush so I didn't have my sword and my DM claimed the bow would be useless in a fight. I showed him the previous video and we came to a lot of the same conclusions you mention in this one. Then, with my now no longer useless bow in hand I managed to barely survive the encounter and survive another day.
Melee sling attacks against flesh would probably bounce less, though it still wouldn't be a very good idea. Seems like a last desperate attempt from someone about to be run through
Any idiot that doesn't have a backup close range weapon to go along with his distance weapon such as a sling, deserves death.
Just a pile of fist sized rocks, thrown at an attacker's head, can be better than an improvised flail. A 1-2" thick and 3-5' long tree branch makeshift club/staff is better than a sling flail.
@Karol Jeske tbh though, that wouldn't change the outcome of a sling being a terrible weapon. you still have to aim with a small weapon against a moving, unpredictable target that, if armed with an actual melee weapon, also has greater reach than you, all while aiming at a smaller area of their body to have a chance of actually stopping or more likely just stunning them.
not to mention that unlike purpose built weapons like flails, which have a handle that puts a good distance between where your hand is and where the ball swings to prevent self-harm, your arm is pretty much the handle for a sling-flail, so even if you actually hit them it's basically a guarantee that you're also gonna hit yourself (unless the rock flies out and away, but i presume you wanted that to not happen since you brought up a sling with a better basket)
personally, i'd just throw the rock in their face and take my chances with unarmed. or run.
@Karol Jeske The purpose of the experiment is to use the projectile as a melee weapon, meaning that the rock, pellet or whatever doesn't leave the sling.
Staff slings would also be more common in many historical contexts. At which point you've got a 4-6foot thick sturdy staff with optional spike on the end. Used as a flail it would be lethal, but just the stave would be a decent enough weapon for defence.
I think it would be a better idea to hit them with the rock or lead ball in your hand than trying to do some weird shenanigans with the sling itself.
I'm becoming increasingly convinced Skal is a disney princess. More and more animals chime in and congregate whenever he's talking and making videos!
"When someone comes at you in melee and you have a bow..."
*...then you have penalty to Defense, end of story.*
My mind on isolation: "If I ignore the context I just watched a grown man play with a doll for 20 min."
I think I said it once, but I'll happily say it again: I enjoy watching your videos not only because I enjoy your content, but also because I think you're a great person. Being willing to admit that you were wrong and to correct yourself is a quality so few people have, but it's one of the qualities I personally respect the most.
Thank you. I've got plenty of flaws and I don't always do a great job at self-improvement but it's important to me.
@@Skallagrim everybody has flaws, but how we handle them is what counts.
Ssshhhh its only to create more videos for that youtube ad money
Nah I am kidding. Skall is amazing. I forgot how I found him, I think it was through Metatron and I am so glad I did
8:11 so thats how it's gonna be? We come here to watch your videos and you throw rocks at us.
Granted, it's not intentional.
Believe it or not my favorite TTRPG called Pathfinder actually has a feat for this. It's called Empty Quiver Style and it lets you use bows,crossbows or two handed firearms as if they were Heavy Maces. Also lets you use stuff like hand crossbows and one handed firearms as if they were light maces.
What's even cooler is that you can switch between melee and ranged attacks with this weapon without penalty, even during the same round. So you could hit someone who has closed in on you with the bow,then take a 5 foot step backwards and shoot them if you wanted to or shoot someone else if you take the guy down by hitting him.
So you could basically pull off a Legolas?
@@mikedanielespeja6128 That would require the enemy to have a shield you can snatch, then throw down some convenietly close stairs and ''snowboard'' on it.
While proceeding to shoot some more arrows, naturally.
@@Alpha.Phenix I think he meant the scene where he stabbed an uruk with an arrow to death and than fired said arrow
This is why I love pathfinder. You can do pretty much anything, it's wonderful for building wacky concepts.
A few days ago a friend and I discovered you can use the barbarian's rage power "Body Bludgeon" to beat a mothafuckah with anothah mothafuckah.
But that's not all, oh no - mixed with other class abilities/feats, you can even swing this victim to batter ranged spell attacks and even siege weaponry clean out of the air.
Just imagine your ally swinging an enemy around, panicking in their arms, only for your friend to slam them into a trebuchet stone midflight, knocking it out of the air and instantly mangling his victim.
That's fucking Pathfinder, y'all.
You could also use your opponent's weapon to cut the bow string.
Honestly I just wanted to see you using the Skyrim / Oblivion bow melee strategy. AKA punching while holding a bow.
That'd probably be about as effective as punching someone with a roll of quarters in your fist. Same principle, really.
@@kylestanley7843 I'm aware i just love the idea of skall even pretending to take the tactic seriously
Punching with a roll of quarters but stupidly easy to deflect by hitting the bow out of the way
@@RDeathmark very fair, it would admittedly by amusing to watch Skall slugging Bob with the pvc bow lol
Ah, but you have failed to account for the the sling user being of prestigious skill, disengaging with thine aggressor and revealing a throwing knife alongside some twine.
Upon securing the knife to sling via twine he may then reengage and thus armed with a *poke on a rope* be found unstoppable.
Fear the *sting on a string.*
"rocked and loaded"
Thanks, man, I didn't know I needed that
Imagine charging at an archer and just sets your lance aside
... then uses the bottom end of the bow to make your horse trip over its own feet.
I would just give up after that
@@Sableagle You'd have to be a special kind of stupid to believe a horse would trip over your flimsy stick.
Also cavalry charges didn't occur with one horse only, you parry a lance another one hits you... and the horse steps on you.
@@AVGyerra22 they were making a joke, buddy. It's ok..
@@markbyrd7710 A shit & redundant joke to be sure, but sure, I'll back off.
At one point skall did a video on a certain technique with the quarterstaff, I think it was called the guardbreaker? Where the user would swing the quarterstaff with one hand in an absolute haymaker, I reckon that would work for the bow as well.
And garbling with it
That sounds about right. I've seen the sort of one handed swing you're talking about.
One would think a two handed strike would hit harder. They'd be forgiven, but centrifugal force is a powerful thing. Extend your arm to it's full length and choke down on the staff for as much reach as possible, and swing it hard as possible, with proper body mechanics in mind. You'll probably knock them out in just that one single hit. Frankly, it's terrifying.
Kyle Stanley Humans have a long love affair with taking sticks and whacking things with it.
@@kylestanley7843 Skall showed it in one of his videos, and it blew through his opponent's guard. The only reason he wasn't dead from those is because Skall had him stand out of measure.
Like he said here, though, bows usually lack the mass or length of a quarterstaff, and also are far more flexible. So it'd be something, but notably worse, I think.
"You can try to cut the string..."
Perhaps by attempting to turn your opponent's sword using that side of the bow one time?
And then the string can be used as a garrote...
@@SonsOfLorgar can still be used as garotte whilst strung to the bow ottoman style.Put the string on the neck of your opponent then rotate the bow until it binds the throat.Then they die.
-So... your character is a berserk...
-Yep. He will have ability to deal more damage, but he will get some damage too.
-Aaaand... He uses sling in melee?
Yep
Great cut to coffin dudes
We need a full version of that medieval dancing coffin
@Nw2343 thanks , just noticed skal has also mentioned the name on the bottom right corner
here ya go
ruclips.net/video/7E9CZQ3_iBQ/видео.html
My favorite part is the wildlife heckling him.
"Canada...Where The Women Are Women, And The Men Are Too." Not as bad as france, but maybe a bit close?
Squire: "SIre, why thoust thou bind two daggers to the end of thine longbow?"
Archer: uses longbow like a dual bladed swordstaff.
Spaniard: "Can you help me sir? I got lost on the way to the bathroom. What continent am I on?"
Florida Native: *Fires arrow at him*
Spaniard: "Hey I remember when I use to fight with weapons like that. Not the best against armor."
Florida Native: *Slams the bow into him*
Spaniard: "Mommy! The naber kid is picking on me!"
Wow thank you for clearing this up. I absolutely couldn't sleep at nights because of this but finally we can all have some closure. 😁
Everyone: *dying from c19*
This guy: *dark souls in real life*
tbh dark souls irl is much more fun than covid19
potatomato :p
The death toll varies my dude. It's not always "oh shit im going to die because i caught the boogyman disease."
That's not how it works. Especially where i live, in America. It's suspected the number of infected people across america is larger than that of those who are dying from it. Some people even already have covid antibodies, which means they caught it, didn't realise what it was, fought it off, and got healthy again. Now i will not say that this is the case for everywhere and everyone. Because that's stupid. Some countries have death tolls in the thousands. Usually countries that don't practice basic hygiene.
So don't go assuming i don't think it's serious or anything. Because in some areas, in some cases, it is. But where i live, it's almost a non-issue. But of course the media has to make everyone think it's a utterly massive issue and everyone's going to die, oh no doomsday bullshit and such, because that's what they do.
(Don't have a very high opinion of most American news outlets.) But hey, believe what you want to about it. Because you're going to anyway. :D
@@mr_h831 Half of US cases are localized to New York City.
Super important not to overstate the mortality rate of COVID-19. It's important not to keep socially isolated to stop the spread so that people don't die and so the hospitals aren't overwhelmed with those people that need intensive care and high-dependancy care. But also important not to be overly anxious about it.
@@mr_h831 you wanna talk to the manager?
Don't worry about not always considering all perspectives. The comments are a huge think tank, you are just one person who can't possibly think of everything all the time.
Making videos like this is cool because it shows that you read the comments and make use of the community.
The dummy you used in this probably has post-traumatic stress disorder.
That medieval dancing pallbearers clip was possible the greatest thing I’ve seen this year.
At 2:00- The original Florida man meme?
quality video as always. Also 10/10 thumbnail, the facial expressions are top notch!
Skall: *mid sentence* "SHUT UP SQUIRREL!"
Me: "SKALL IS DUG!!!"
xD
I dont think your first video was wrong or bad. But HUGE thanks for being willing to question yourself. It definitely adds to your credibility - not subtract from it - to admit doubt and retrial.
First saw this channel two weeks ago and I must say I've become a regular watcher.
Thanks!
Thanks, I appreciate it. :)
I think a lot of hand to hand combat is just who did the best with what they had in the given moment , skill is always a factor don't get me wrong... but sometimes RNG favors the brave.
It also whelps when what you have at hand is a lethal weapon, but youre generally right.
I haven't even watched the video yet, but I gotta say:
I love Skall's attitude. Just stating that he may have 'derped' in the *title*. Legend.
A blow gun in melee is just a hollow stick.
Phillipino Kali? depends of the build of your hollow stick XD.
Indonesian sumpitan, which is blowgun/spear hybrid, was quite good in melee. Like that
web.prm.ox.ac.uk/weapons/index.php/tour-by-region/oceania/asia/arms-and-armour-asia-65/index.html
or that
www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/ewbanks/catalogue-id-srew10048/lot-13366b37-712b-4599-86c2-a45201353ebc
Here are more sumpitan photos/drawings
www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=20774
and
www.alamy.com/young-kayan-man-who-has-just-caught-a-piglet-with-a-poison-dart-from-his-blowpipe-borneo-se-asia-then-part-of-the-british-empire-6-of-6-image235045840.html
and
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iban_people#/media/File:COLLECTIE_TROPENMUSEUM_Portret_van_Iban_Dajaks_waarvan_de_man_in_krijgskleding_in_de_garnizoensplaats_Long_Nawan_TMnr_60034030.jpg
and
c8.alamy.com/compes/ph00m6/vintage-impresiones-en-blanco-y-negro-en-dos-columnas-subtitulo-romanzoff-islenos-a-la-izquierda-que-representa-un-fuertemente-tatuado-el-hombre-y-la-mujer-desde-las-islas-marshall-cada-vistiendo-faldas-de-mat-cintillos-y-grandes-pendientes-y-yak-guerrero-y-dusum-a-la-derecha-que-describia-los-dayak-de-dos-hombres-el-hombre-a-la-izquierda-vistiendo-vestido-ceremonial-completo-incluyendo-un-orangutan-manto-un-tocado-de-plumas-y-sosteniendo-un-escudo-y-sumpitan-cubierto-con-mechones-de-cabello-humano-y-el-hombre-a-la-derecha-vistiendo-ropa-ordinaria-compuesta-de-collares-taparrabos-y-una-llanura-spear-publicado-en-john-george-wood-de-volumen-la-incivilizada-ph00m6.jpg
Thanks for adding the Medieval Coffin Dance, loved the inclusion!
Could be a cool fight scene where an archer attempts to parry a sword with his bow but the sword cuts the string and the bow whips into his face as it loses tension
Can we all pause to respect Skall for making an update video based on criticism without any sense of whininess? Makes me respect the man.
"Shut up squirrel!" ~Skallagrim 2020
This video is incredibly informative, I'm looking forward to you "being wrong" again if awesome videos come out of it ;)
Seriously, I admire you
Y'know. Considering how alot of comic book archers have bows with absolutely ridiculous draw weights (Hawkeye's bow for example is 250 pounds!), their ability to be used as melee weapons become oddly reasonable...
Yeah, for normal people those "bows" are not a "bendy" object.
Yeah, those are basically just putting a string on a quarterstaff.
@@dumnor I'm not an expert on archery but on a ridiculously stiff bow would that mean the string itself would stretch/break before the bow bends? Unless the string is also made of something crazy...
Videos like this is something game creators and film makers should watch (and at least consider).
my metal recurve, unstrung would be evil. Korean, Chinese and Japanese martial arts used to teach (some still do) grappling with small rope, towels, etc that could be applied to the sling.
I don't know if that counts though, since the damage wouldn't be coming from the sling itself.
nujevad40 - I think it would apply because (if successful) you could briefly neutralise or even (if you were super lucky) disarm the guy. However, in most cases this would fail against a sword but might have a slim chance against a polearm if used badly by the other guy.
@@nujevad28 the string is still part of the sling right?
Thank you for doing a followup video. At least one of the accounts from Garcilaso de la Vega does specify that three or four blows from a bow held in two hands to a helmeted head drew significant blood. The Spanish word used is "celada," a historical term for helmet connected to the English word "sallet." Of course, the armored Spaniard injured by these blows was still able to respond with two sword thrusts through his attacker's chest, which proved quickly fatal. Three or four full blows from a dedicated two-handed war club most likely would have done worse. These were effective against armored Spaniards in other engagements in the Americas, such as against Mapuche warriors. Serving as cavalry, Francisco Núñez de Pineda y Bascuñán gave a firsthand account of these clubs from Cangrejeras 1629: multiple blows knocked him off his horse & left him senseless on the ground with the backplate of his armor jammed against his ribs. The Mapuches took him prisoner.
I just imagine a knight getting beat to death on the floor by a squad of archers
Okay, been watching your videos at random for a while now but seeing the humility here admitting people aren't perfect (including yourself) convinced me to subscribe.
PS. always did enjoy that outro music XD
Using bow against foes in melee: I always imagined some fancy move with a very strong bow of overhead string choking someone from the back (you also being back-to back with the enemy and leaning forward gripping the bow to choke them) :D Hitman style
why bother with that when you can just smack them with a big stick
@@burgernthemomrailer if the stick is big enough you can always use it to hit anyone!
That would be cool but, if they still have a weapon in reach they can just take it in reverse grip if it's bladed and stab you in the ribs or hit somewhere painful if it's a blunt weapon. It doesn't work with a polearm but they would probably at least have a dagger as backup. So, it's cool but dangerous.
Ah, a hitman of culture, I see.
burgern one thing though. Wouldn’t stringed bows be extremely unwieldy in melee? Not to mention the string could get cut and spring the thing out of your hand.
I like the usage of memes. I tip my hat to you.
don't forget about putting the bow around the neck and choking or dragging him to the ground!
well that's if it's 1 on 1 unless you want to be backstabbed
He's just about conventional fighting and tactics with a weapon, otherwise he'd cover such techniques and capabilities.
if you can pull it off?
Go ahead and try that on a guy with a sword.
Good video, nice that you read comments that much
I laughed so much with the Medieval Coffin Dance 😂
Your videos are great references for a game I’m making.
Medieval Astronomia. 🤣
Hello Skall, great video as always. I have a suggestion for you. Here in Brazil, specifically in the state of São Paulo, we have a very specific kind of machete named "Facão Sorocabano", I think you will really appreciate this blade by the uniqueness of it when compared with other machetes, and the most important is the history behind the blade.
Spoiler: Unfortunately this blade don't have a pommel.
Keep the great work and thanks for the videos!
Geese? That sounded more like someone having a really good time or a really bad time O.o
Nice job Skall. Excellent demonstrations.
Was glad you put on the mask though. Don't need to see you injured!
14:26 when your doctor comes in, says "you got Corona but everything is going to be alright", but you See the avengers coming in and 4 black guys with a coffin are dancing on the hallway
@skallagrim That's super cool that you engage your followers like this. We all learn from each other and sometimes have ideas that others don't. Thanks for another educational and entertaining video!
Would be interesting to see an atlatl being used in melee ( as effective as a one handed STICK could be, i guess)
Talking about the slings, one of the book series I've read called Redwall makes mention a few times of how the woodland creatures would get up close in a melee and use sling pouches still loaded with a stone as a bludgeon, I always figured they were gripping up close to the pouch to keep the stone in and essentially using it as a slight extension of just a rock in the hand..I saw it as kind of the quarters in a sock method of beating some one cause you got no other choice.
Seeing you with a fencing helmet makes me want to see how they manage against medieval weapons. They're very easy to see though, but I wonder how good they are against real weapons.
Lachlan Fanning its made for HEMA, its not a sports fencing mask. Its made for longsword stabs to the face
@@Underjordiskentitet It looks identical to a HEMA mask. And if you hadn't noticed, HEMA practitioners don't tend to use actually sharp weapons. They're designed for training long swords, not actual ones. It can of course survive blunt impact, but is the metal strong enough to withstand a sharp edge?
At the HEMA school I attend to, every so often we play a for fun game called "the dice of fate." Where you get to roll dice to see what weapon you get to wield. Obviously this sometimes results in some mismatches.
The time that really comes to mind is when I rolled dagger, and the other guy rolled sabre. The other guy Torbin, is a big big guy. Very strong, and more experienced than me. I'm more of a medium guy. Kinda strong, not exactly fast on the feet, but faster than Torbin, and one of my few talents is good judgement of measure.
I knew I didn't have much chance, but decided to give it my best try. I kept at range and circled, and faked a few lunges, trying to get him to over-commit on a swing. He did swing, but he never over-committed or reached or did anything that slowed down his recovery. I managed to push aside a thrust with my dagger, dodged the provoked swings, but never even got close to closing to tangle his sword arm or land a thrust before he managed to tag my weapon hand with the sabre when I got backed into a corner.
A knife is not a winning proposition against even a medium sized one hander. You're not blocking or parrying anything and evasion is harder than most people think. Between that and the reach advantage giving them the initiative, you don't have much hope.
I think if you beat someone with a blunt object enough force will cave in anyone head, so as long as you have a blunt object, it should do the job
Thank you so much for bothering posting the link to coffin meme!
Also, turns out there is a game associated - INKulinati
"He won't just come rushing at you like crazy"
Unless he is an orc or undead with low cognitive functions
Or some other novice who's got more piss and glory than brains and training in them.
Yeah, but then you'd want something with more stopping power than a dagger.
@@gmann215 like a pommel
If we're talking someone heavy, who's wearing armor (which admittedly isn't that heavy), and wielding a fairly heavy weapon, and they DID do just a crazy rush like that, you could probably sidestep out of the way. They'd have a lot of momentum built up, so they might not be able to change directions or stop from a full speed charge all that quickly, so you might be able to jump them from behind before they can recover...
according to Xenofon's book of the Myriads , the Rhodian slingers were always combined with light cavalary , they took their shoots and then jumped in the back of the horses to exfiltrate . Cretan archers on the other hand used small swords or axes . greetings from Greece !! keep up the good work
And the lance would be heavier so it would be much easier to catch it in time to displace it
EDIT: That edit with the coffin and the guys dancing 😂
The sling segment is a pretty good demonstration of why weapons like the spiked ball and chain weren't actually used often in real life.
You can use a blowgun, especially the Cold Steel Pro 8-)
On the sling, one thing people seemed to not pick up on, is you were also presuming they had already FIRED their shot. If sling-man is being rushed, and the dude already hurled his pebble, I highly doubt he is going to have time to load up another and prepare for the melee.
On the point of skill; I really don't care how skilled the fighters are, a dagger vs a sword or a spear is SO disadvantaged, that I highly, highly doubt that the dagger guy is going to be able to take him out. And even if he CAN do some damage, the opponent is likely to have some armor that the dagger won't be able to break through. So on throwing knives/daggers/etc. I agree 100% with your assessment.
Germany: *invades France*
France: 14:35
As a sling-flailer, I appreciate you going back to make sure.
Also, my pun would have been "rock-ochet".
Child: Mummy that beared man is in the garden again
Mother: dont look dear
Child: Use the pommel and end him rightly skallagrim
Mother: nooooo
Mum: Are they beating each other and moaning again?!
Keep in mind that slings are usually a lot longer. The strings are supposed to be the length of your armspan, so if the pouch is large because of you having long arms, you could fit a large rock inside, and really crack down on someone's head.
Another good weapon in melee:the bayonet
Ranged weapon
România Countryball well its kinda just a spear with a gun
@@huntereyeofdarkwood5417 For the 1st 300 or so years that's all they were, a way to convert a single shot firearm into a short pike.
have you seen the last video?
Another good weapon in melee: a sword!
Come on ma dude, a bayonet is not a ranged weapon, it's a melee weapon attached to a ranged weapon. It's like strapping 2 knives on each end of a bow.
Hey Skall. Since you've been looking at odd weapons of other cultures of late I'd like to suggest you look into the Sodegarami. This was a pole arm like weapon used in feudal Japan by Samurai and their retainers. It's specific function was to be a 'Man-catcher' and the way it did this feat was brutal indeed. Multiple twisting hooked prongs, a curling meat hook and flesh rending barbs adorn the tips of these weapons. I'm sure if you could get your hands on one or something similar it would make for an entertaining display.
damn it third
Also given many bows, especially longbows, had horn (possibly metal) tips which would aid in the thrust.
Skall. Assassin's Greed. Valhalla. Video. Where.
Shadiversity already made one about it
@@Dandandandandandandandandanda1 yes, and it was quite enjoyable. But I want Skallagrim's video, since he is Norwegian and looks something like a Viking.
@Leo Wilson I should be following his streams more.
9:39 Well memed!
16:20 That squirrel certainly sees you as a threat.
Scall! Bowyer here, medieval english longbows, found in the ship (forgat name) had Horn pieces at Both ends. At the Bottom nock, do it could be put in the ground at rest, and the top nock was used for stabbing. Using a bow of 2 metres, you could stab in some weak points of the apponents armour (excuse my bad english).
Depending on how strong the sling is, it could be used similarly to how someone would a belt in martial arts. There are some schools that teach people how to use them.
Hey Skallagrim. I haven’t saw your videos in a while. Glad to see you keep hitting it. I like new fat-suit btw.
Another historical accounting for Indian bowman ship can be found in the recounting of Cabeza de Vaca, a Spanish conquistador who was one of the first to enter Florida. He also details the bows as massive and discusses the sheer height and strength the Indians had that allowed them to shoot them. He however maintains that the armor his men were wearing wasn’t sufficient. Check chapters 4-6 for the reference.
The slow mo of you just mercilessly beating the mannequin with a stic had me dying
The medieval coffin meme was a stroke of genius 😂
Speaking of nerdy rants, you gave me some excellent ideas for RPG maneuvers. bowstring garrote, namely. And now I really want to see how others react to smacking someone with a bow.
Regarding the sling, there is a type of sling called the staff sling, and, well, it's a sling attached to a staff. For that one, one could probably use the staff at melee range.
You could say that the limitations shown by that close range test of the sling was the reason for why the sling-staff was implemented, which makes it a hybrid of the unstrung bow’s abilities you praised, while keeping the ability of being able to continue firing ammunition later (if they are able to dispatch the assailant) without having to scavenge a new bow that’s still strung or take the time to re-string your spent bow; given that they’re not out of the battlefield if they were in this scenario to begin with, that’s not viable. I say this with only basic insights into the written stories of king David, being a Sheppard David would have a staff and would most likely make the practical choice to combine the two tools of defense he had available to keep his sheep safe in the event of a quick wolf.
I've used my sling in the woods to clear brush, seemed to work well most of the time. Although, I'm also used to slinging stones. I use a rubber inner-tube sling which grabs the rock a little bit
Love how you have to fight with nature to record!
THROWING SPIKES, SKALLAGRIM.
I got my own, 12 inchers ones, I left a comment about em on the other video !
Theyre the perfect weapon for stabbing and throwing at point blank and up to 10 meters in no or half spin techniques. Very cheap to make you just take a cement nail, cut its head and then sharpen its end. Actually I also develloped my own technique to do a point blank throw of 4 or 5 throwing spikes in a grouped throw, it can and has pierced 1mm scrap metal and got a 1 to 2 meter range or almost point blank.