Thanks heaps man it worked. I printed your EVO MD-1 design then filed the plastic down to fit my bike (Merida eOne Sixty). I used zip ties to strap it on. So far it works but in the long run I will have to print it again with measurements for my bike. Donated some money too cheers!
With some, actually a lot, of help from Thomas I made one of these for my bike. Works like a damn. Changed the crank sprocket to 44 tooth, can maintain 40 kph on level ground. Always carry a spare elastic or leave the original sensor further out on the spoke in case you need to reposition to get you home. Carrying an extra battery if you like longer rides can be helpful getting you home.
It is cheap if you dont factor in the costs of learning how to 3D model and owning a 3D printer. But I do love this solution. You can fine tune your speed limit instead of removing it all together. You'll probably want to machine the parts out of metal for rougher terain though. And maybe use a chain instead of a rubber band.
I have a gazelle chamonix 7 and i use a carryingwheel i bought at gamma. I cut it in two whit a shaw. Then bought a refreshing device that has the contour of your puley. I gluded it on the wheel. The frame has 3 holes where the sidestandard is attatched. There i attatched the wheel. Then i gluded a tierib on the plastic of the bachwheel axis. I bought a bag whit 3 camping elastic. I cut one and gluded it together. I gluded a magnet on the refreshingdevice and it works!
This is just great, does it work for Shimano e6100? It has the same type of sensor and magnet, I really hope it does, I have two batteries and I like to ride at 30to40 km/h so this invention would make my rides smoother and faster but still safe!
I have looked at your video again and just realized that even though I have a rear hub motor on my back wheel my motor operates on sensors rather than wheel rotation which is a pity as I got all the parts that you had shown on your video to do the modification only to realize it won't work for me but thanks for the great video
slinkytreekreeper I have a Kalkhoff " XION" rear hub. It's 250 watts with a maximum of 1000 watts. My motor doesn't have a controller unlike other rear hub motors instead the xion motor works on sensors rather than wheel rotation. In other words the harder it pedal the faster the bike goes. Similar to a mid drive motor
Most e-bike's depend for speed regulation on the train=>wheelcircumference/magnet/sensor. Most sensors are fed with pulses of 0,6 volt, but 0,5 volt will do the trick. If one tries to derive the pulses from a magnet placed on the pedals or primary pinion,you will have a lower cadance and still see the pulse , but the tension would be in the area of 0,2 volt, given the small circumference of the pedals.It is not so difficult to feed the sensors 0,6 volt using an elektro magnet.
I watched this video and tried it out but after 10km it locked in at E014. Have you since found out how to fix this? (without having to replace the motor?). Mine will not correct even whilst riding it with many crank rotations Lakro?
@@jamiegrayson3739 I have not tried this. Important is that speed are not the same so different diameter is needed. But still the ratio always will be locked but not 1:1 but f.ex 1:2. So It may undersand that you have hacked it. I do use a box inn beween the sensor that gives normal signal up to 22-23 kmh, after that It just show speed around 23kmh even if I run 30Kmh
Hi Tom, Thanks for uploading and sharing the template, Im going to build it and see how it goes, what size bearings did you use? Also what is the diameter of the magnet?
@@atcaron Thanks Tom, Im in the process of ordering parts and trying to convince my friend to print the parts for me. Out of interest, have you had any negative effects from the added speed? has the battery life decreased? have the electrics worn out quicker? have you got a speeding ticket? :) Thanks!
@@jward0071 No negative effect so far. I don't expect problems since the hack doesn't modify the max power of the motor. So same current and power. Battery life looks good so far. Of course the battery last less km since you are going faster. No sppeding tickets. I'm usualy going at 45 km/h.
I can't believe that someone actually did this. Police could figure out badaddtuning box by contacting bikedealer but with this it can take some time :D. (tuning chip you can just throw away if police stop you)
Have you had error for e014 because of having it installed with different positioning? I did similar to yours Just installed sensors on outside of frame and magnets on crank arm unfortunately I got e014 error I can’t get rid of
Can it take some down hill action? I know you could always uninstall it for climbs and descent, but that takes a bit of time and those tiny screws are easy to misplace out there on the trails. I'd only use this for commuting a bit faster.
It has been almost 3 years since you installed the system. Has the system thrown any error code and is still the engine still working? If so, how many miles on it have you put (I mean real miles since I guess the miles reading is wrong and reduced by the same proportion as the ratio between your wheel and the rear axe). Thanks
Good question! So far 7150 km so about 4400 miles. Real distance, I installed another speedometer to read the real speed and distance (as shown in another video). I only had codes when the elastic band broke (every 2000 km or so) normal maintenance I guess. Other than that everything runs fine. The key is that the motor is not overdriven to higher power or current. I just removed the speed limit.
@@atcaron Thanks thomas, that is great. I was only worried that even if the power is not increased, technically the motor spins faster when you pedal at lets say 30 or 35km/h (the speed I would typically go at) so feared the internal gears (made of Nylon I think) would get over-worn very fast, and since I think/understand no replacement gear can be found, this would be very problematic.
Guillaume van Renterghem I typically go at about 45 km/h and no signs of wear so far. I didn’t notice vibration or changes in the noise coming from the motor.
you can fix the error code by putting the magnet back to the correct original position then riding the bike wile powered on showing the error code . after you ride it it catches up with the correct amount of pedal turns and all of a sudden the error code goes away .
It would be nice to have different sizes so it is possible to adjust the speed. Max 35km/h is more than enough on busy dutch bike roads. Would be perfect if my speed meter says 25(the speed limit in NL and I drive 35 😀
Hi saw in your description that you were working on a website where you could post the 3d files, how is that going? If it is done I would much appreciate if you could give me the URL. Thanks!
I agree, but since i'm better at mechanical stuff than electronic stuff... Also, this is quite rugged and doesn't require battery, don't risk to destroy the shimano electronics and is fail safe. If something goes bas, you just slide the original magnet back in place and continue your ride. I've done 3000km with this and it is still working like a charm. Just need to replace the rubber band every 1000km or so.
Sure, your gear is nice and simple, I like it. But there is problem with very slow ride in steep hills when Shimano says some error code and interrupts motor power for second. It is caused by SW protection. Electronics can do non-linear gear ratio (up to 20km/h 1:1, faster 1:2) , but mechanical does not by simple way (maybe centrifugal gear switch would be needed). Anyway, your machine is helpful and good solution for road riders who are familiar with 3D printing.
Bet there is some simple gate the size of a sugar cube that makes one output for every two inputs, this rubber band thing would get a hard time on a mtb on a rough trail.
I agree, but I don't have the skills for that. There are systems based on this concept on the market already, but they require a battery. Also they divide by 2 only passed a certain speed, so you don't have low speed issues. I did something mechanic because it was "free" for me.
just a question, if i don't want to double the speed but just make it faster say to 30kmh how should it be done ? make the wheel smaller or it just does not work like that ? thank
If I have Shimano Steps E6100 series motor with 36V 250W 50Nm + 36 V Comfort Li-Ion battery 625Wh (17.4Ah) 40-65Nm what will be the highest max speed ? Thanks
Haw about puting an electro magnet on the sensor with small arduino type chip, which keeps turning it on with some frequency ( or adding frequency generator directly to the cable)
That's a good idea, but I don't have the skills to do that. Some electronic device are already available on the market for this. like Badassebikes Box.
I've just done this on my YT Decoy 2020 model got 3 miles into a ride and got a E014 fault code, ride over! 🤬 Will put it back to standard once I can sort out the fault
THIS SEEMS LIKE A LOT MORE WORK THAN JUST PUTTING MAGNET ON BACK OF PEDAL AND MOVING SENSOR TO OUTSIDE OF THE FRAME. IS THERE SOME ADVANTAGE HERE I'M NOT SEEING?
Neodymium magnets work the best you can buy them from amazon in all different sizes. They are very strong magnets for there size and I haven't used any other magnet that comes close by power and size.
@@atcaron I already subscribed to your channel and I am giving you all my support! Eventually you want to give a look to what is happening in London lately you can subscribe to my channel! 😎 cheers! 😉
LOL I prefer to change preferences in software to US region (20mpg = 32kmp) and software wheel size to 26" it unlock speed to 35kmp without any hardware modifications. :)
I invented and made this myself. I don't think anybody sells such a kit. This is really bike specific. If you have the exact same bike I could print you one. But if your bike is different, it won't fit because the clamp the goes on the frame must have the right diameter, offset and angle relative to the wheel.
Hi Thomas I have the same bike as you and was wondering if you would make me the same pulley kit as in the video and how much it would cost? Thanks and hope to hear from you soon you are a real genius.
Why don't you just attach the magnet to the pedal? At a 33/11 ratio you can reach speeds of 75km/h... That costs 2 tie wraps and 5 minutes of your time.
If you put the magnet on the pedal, the Shimano system will detect that the wheel goes exactly at the same speed than the pedal and will give you an error message after a few turns... To make this work, you need to put 2 magnets on the crank. But then the max speed drops too much.
In my case I did get the E014 error. Not able to remove the error by setting sensor back and turning pedals. So when the where I bought the eBike. Had to replace the motor (on warranty) to fix the error. So do not do this on newer Shimano steps. You destroy your bike.
nice work, did not you try to change the wheel circumference through e tube software? I have steps 8000 and it works for me. you need only logged in a company version. I have a wheel of 2200 mm circumference and I set 1400mm. At a speed of about 30 km / h, the display shows 20km / h. the actual maximum speed is about 45 km / h depending on the gears
This is really interesting information. I have a steps 6000 system. In the past I tried to use the e tube without success. Maybe I should try the latest version. Is there a minimum wheel circumference? Could you set it to half the real circumference to double the seed limit? With my modification, my top speed is 64 km/h (twice the original 32 km/h). I frequently go to 50 km/h, so in my case 45 km/h would not be enough. I also changed the front gear to a bigger one to have more top speed.
@@atcaron I did not miss the smallest possible wheel size. I set it up randomly. I work for the company where I mount Steps to a recumbent trike. That's why I use the latest software and I have it unlocked as an OEM maker. I personally drive about 30km / h. It is possible that the engine would also allow a higher speed, but I do not use it. I need to have the strength uphill. Otherwise, justify my English, I use Google Translator
Would you make this for me and everything to go with it meaning the magnet and Bearings and band and I buy it if you I not got first clue how do 3D printing so if you wouldn’t mind I rather ask if you be able to make me one these and I buy the full set up of you I got the same bike as you so this set up would work perfectly for me be grateful if you could get back to me
Sorry, I don't sell these, but you can print them yourself or get somebody to print it for you. The files are available on the website listed in the comments.
While this is a nice idea, just a friendly reminder - in EU countries - being caught with this on your eBike will be a very serious punishment. Not to mention, if you have an accident and/or injure someone with this kind of modification you will be punished severely for it - since the 25km/h speed limit is there to prevent serious risk to both eBike riders & the general public.
My bike has 11 gears and the motor cuts out on the 9th that's dangerous your going up a gear and hit a massive wall you got a massive sudden loss of power its like throwing a car in reverse when doing 80 mph especially when going up hill down hill i hit 30 mph so what is the point when you go down hill the restrictions don't work anymore any way lmao
Just to let you know that I'm working to setup a website where you can download the 3D models and maybe even order the kit. Just subscribe to my channel to be kept in the loop!
Sam's Town Cyclery Cameron Park Shingle Springs this would have the opposite effect. The speedometer would read twice the speed. Therefore the max speed would drop to 16 km/h instead of the original 32 km/h.
Sory it is not owertightend but fhe bend you can hear at 6:15 (uneaven rub) but that whose a year before today so i can not owerestamate what is the state of that bike today. Sory if you got ofended os somthing like that.
Damian Szymański you will get error e014 if you put the magnet on the pedal crank. With my modification you will not get E014. The system reports E014 when the wheel speed and the crank speed is the same.
I'm now up to 10500km with this modification without any problem. Maybe the magnet is not properly aligned with the sensor. Double check where the magnet should be relative to the sensor. Maybe also your magnet is to strong or too weak. make some test holding the magnet in your hand and passing it near the sensor.
Why dont buy an ebike that can go faster, innstead of this shit. Ive a mecanic in a bikeshop and we are importers of on eof the big brands worlwide here in Norway, and i cant count the times people commes with a hacked bike. They want me to fix after they fuckem up. We just show the the door and explain why we dont want to help. Pluss all garanties are out the window as soon you do something like that. And its also dangerus. How many times ive seen accidents with ebike s becouse they go to fast to other people to react and move. One of my friends broke here arm after beeing hit by and ebiker that was to fast. Polise tok his bike, he has to pay for all here treatment, pluss a big fine for him. And he deserves it. People comming in 40-50 KM/h on the sidewalk its absolutley insaine. And are you lucky and a old lady comes around the bend on hers ebike, you dont have a chance. For me its about care about other people and safety. And why do you need to go ,,40 km/h on the trails, its dangerus for other people that walk same plase. Its better to by a class2 ebike, register it so you can drive on the road legally. Ore buy a fucking mxbike ore moped, its cheaper also. Then you have more power for less. Ebikes are great tol for the right guys, they are funny even in uphills. But i crush every ebiker around here with my endurobike in the downhills every time. So for me its just stupid. And most of the time its so tecnical trail you cant go that fast anyway. Thats what these bikes are made for. And you can ride longer, so you can play more in the woods. But do it the right way guys. Thats all.
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Thanks heaps man it worked. I printed your EVO MD-1 design then filed the plastic down to fit my bike (Merida eOne Sixty). I used zip ties to strap it on. So far it works but in the long run I will have to print it again with measurements for my bike. Donated some money too cheers!
With some, actually a lot, of help from Thomas I made one of these for my bike. Works like a damn. Changed the crank sprocket to 44 tooth, can maintain 40 kph on level ground. Always carry a spare elastic or leave the original sensor further out on the spoke in case you need to reposition to get you home. Carrying an extra battery if you like longer rides can be helpful getting you home.
Awesome! This is exactly the idea I had in my head, but without the actual work & skill of making it myself. Thank you for sharing!
This is really done well - congratulations for the great effort and work! I like it;-)
This is awesome! A big plus for me was that my frame has a threaded hole to fit a kick stand No bracket needed!
Dude! That’s awesome, great hack and super pro level of manufacturing and dessign.
Thanks Thomas just printed this and made it work in my Voodoo Zobop
Cool!!!
It is cheap if you dont factor in the costs of learning how to 3D model and owning a 3D printer. But I do love this solution. You can fine tune your speed limit instead of removing it all together. You'll probably want to machine the parts out of metal for rougher terain though. And maybe use a chain instead of a rubber band.
I have a gazelle chamonix 7 and i use a carryingwheel i bought at gamma. I cut it in two whit a shaw. Then bought a refreshing device that has the contour of your puley. I gluded it on the wheel. The frame has 3 holes where the sidestandard is attatched. There i attatched the wheel. Then i gluded a tierib on the plastic of the bachwheel axis. I bought a bag whit 3 camping elastic. I cut one and gluded it together. I gluded a magnet on the refreshingdevice and it works!
This is fucking genius ! Congrats on the idea man
Mann, you are a genius, congratulations!! sparked some ideas for me to do in my
This is just great, does it work for Shimano e6100? It has the same type of sensor and magnet, I really hope it does, I have two batteries and I like to ride at 30to40 km/h so this invention would make my rides smoother and faster but still safe!
Sorry, I don't know. You will have to try it!
I have looked at your video again and just realized that even though I have a rear hub motor on my back wheel my motor operates on sensors rather than wheel rotation which is a pity as I got all the parts that you had shown on your video to do the modification only to realize it won't work for me but thanks for the great video
What setup you have Nick?
slinkytreekreeper I have a Kalkhoff " XION" rear hub. It's 250 watts with a maximum of 1000 watts. My motor doesn't have a controller unlike other rear hub motors instead the xion motor works on sensors rather than wheel rotation. In other words the harder it pedal the faster the bike goes. Similar to a mid drive motor
Most e-bike's depend for speed regulation on the train=>wheelcircumference/magnet/sensor.
Most sensors are fed with pulses of 0,6 volt, but 0,5 volt will do the trick.
If one tries to derive the pulses from a magnet placed on the pedals or primary pinion,you will have a lower cadance and still see the pulse , but the tension would be in the area of 0,2 volt, given the small circumference of the pedals.It is not so difficult to feed the sensors 0,6 volt using an elektro magnet.
This video is clearly titled Shimano Steps, you've only got yourself to blame. :)
This is a really impressive modification!
Looks great. A kit for different bikes would be a big hit, but maybe needs something more sturdy than rubber band. Would be a drag to fix mid ride
On latest Shimano steps you can not remove E014 if you use the magnet on pedal option. Motor need to be replaced. So this may be the way to do it.
good feedback
I watched this video and tried it out but after 10km it locked in at E014. Have you since found out how to fix this? (without having to replace the motor?). Mine will not correct even whilst riding it with many crank rotations Lakro?
@@jamiegrayson3739 I have not tried this. Important is that speed are not the same so different diameter is needed. But still the ratio always will be locked but not 1:1 but f.ex 1:2. So It may undersand that you have hacked it. I do use a box inn beween the sensor that gives normal signal up to 22-23 kmh, after that It just show speed around 23kmh even if I run 30Kmh
do you have an idea how to increase the max. speed for Giant Revolt E+ 2022, with Shimano EP8 and with Di2 ? thank you
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Hi Tom,
Thanks for uploading and sharing the template, Im going to build it and see how it goes, what size bearings did you use? Also what is the diameter of the magnet?
The info is on the hardware page of my website
@@atcaron Thanks Tom, Im in the process of ordering parts and trying to convince my friend to print the parts for me.
Out of interest, have you had any negative effects from the added speed? has the battery life decreased? have the electrics worn out quicker? have you got a speeding ticket? :)
Thanks!
@@jward0071 No negative effect so far. I don't expect problems since the hack doesn't modify the max power of the motor. So same current and power. Battery life looks good so far. Of course the battery last less km since you are going faster. No sppeding tickets. I'm usualy going at
45 km/h.
I can't believe that someone actually did this. Police could figure out badaddtuning box by contacting bikedealer but with this it can take some time :D. (tuning chip you can just throw away if police stop you)
Have you had error for e014 because of having it installed with different positioning?
I did similar to yours
Just installed sensors on outside of frame and magnets on crank arm unfortunately I got e014 error I can’t get rid of
Typical, Shimano is programmed to detect if the magnet gets installed on the crank. With my modification you won't get this error message.
Great videos we hope more videos of 750W 48V 20" front wheel please
Super ingénieux! Quel sortes d’élastiques ça prend?
N'importe quel élastique standard fait l'affaire
Fast and good product
Can it take some down hill action? I know you could always uninstall it for climbs and descent, but that takes a bit of time and those tiny screws are easy to misplace out there on the trails. I'd only use this for commuting a bit faster.
I guess it could to some point. Try it! Worst case you will need to print a back up...
@@atcaron I will for sure if I don't end up buying a stunlocker.
It has been almost 3 years since you installed the system. Has the system thrown any error code and is still the engine still working? If so, how many miles on it have you put (I mean real miles since I guess the miles reading is wrong and reduced by the same proportion as the ratio between your wheel and the rear axe). Thanks
Good question! So far 7150 km so about 4400 miles. Real distance, I installed another speedometer to read the real speed and distance (as shown in another video). I only had codes when the elastic band broke (every 2000 km or so) normal maintenance I guess. Other than that everything runs fine. The key is that the motor is not overdriven to higher power or current. I just removed the speed limit.
@@atcaron Thanks thomas, that is great. I was only worried that even if the power is not increased, technically the motor spins faster when you pedal at lets say 30 or 35km/h (the speed I would typically go at) so feared the internal gears (made of Nylon I think) would get over-worn very fast, and since I think/understand no replacement gear can be found, this would be very problematic.
Guillaume van Renterghem I typically go at about 45 km/h and no signs of wear so far. I didn’t notice vibration or changes in the noise coming from the motor.
Can someone please print me one. I want to do it to my ebig 400 nine. Shimano ep8. Thanks.
Awesome job. Can't wait. I'll try and get one made up here in Australia. Thanks for the idea. Love it.
you can fix the error code by putting the magnet back to the correct original position then riding the bike wile powered on showing the error code . after you ride it it catches up with the correct amount of pedal turns and all of a sudden the error code goes away .
Hello Thomas, were did you buy that set? Greetings, Rutger
I made it myself using a 3D printer. Look at the links in the comments
@@atcaron Okay, thanks for your reply! 👍🏼
It would be nice to have different sizes so it is possible to adjust the speed. Max 35km/h is more than enough on busy dutch bike roads. Would be perfect if my speed meter says 25(the speed limit in NL and I drive 35 😀
good idea
Hi saw in your description that you were working on a website where you could post the 3d files, how is that going? If it is done I would much appreciate if you could give me the URL. Thanks!
Belle job!
but what's the life span of that rubber band ? In cold weather, it might break off pretty easy. Or am i mistaking ?
Valeriu Zarnescu I ride about 1500km with a rubber band. No problems so far in cold weather.
Nice job. This is mechanical frequency divider...I think an easier way is to make an electronic frequency divider as badass or speedbox.
I agree, but since i'm better at mechanical stuff than electronic stuff... Also, this is quite rugged and doesn't require battery, don't risk to destroy the shimano electronics and is fail safe. If something goes bas, you just slide the original magnet back in place and continue your ride. I've done 3000km with this and it is still working like a charm. Just need to replace the rubber band every 1000km or so.
Sure, your gear is nice and simple, I like it. But there is problem with very slow ride in steep hills when Shimano says some error code and interrupts motor power for second. It is caused by SW protection. Electronics can do non-linear gear ratio (up to 20km/h 1:1, faster 1:2) , but mechanical does not by simple way (maybe centrifugal gear switch would be needed). Anyway, your machine is helpful and good solution for road riders who are familiar with 3D printing.
Bet there is some simple gate the size of a sugar cube that makes one output for every two inputs, this rubber band thing would get a hard time on a mtb on a rough trail.
www.electronics-tutorials.ws/counter/count_1.html
@@Bultish Of course, but more expensive...
Nice but can’t help feeling and in-line electronic pulse divide by 2 would be simpler and more reliable.
I agree, but I don't have the skills for that. There are systems based on this concept on the market already, but they require a battery. Also they divide by 2 only passed a certain speed, so you don't have low speed issues. I did something mechanic because it was "free" for me.
Brilliant, but can you sell me the 3D printed parts? Or plans
3D drawings are available on my website...
tom-diy.ca/ebike/download.html
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just a question, if i don't want to double the speed but just make it faster say to 30kmh how should it be done ? make the wheel smaller or it just does not work like that ? thank
You got it. The speed max will depend on the diameter ratio. The bigger the wheel the higher the speed limit.
If I have Shimano Steps E6100 series motor with 36V 250W 50Nm + 36 V Comfort Li-Ion battery 625Wh (17.4Ah) 40-65Nm what will be the highest max speed ? Thanks
It dependsIt depends on the gear ration, how much you pedal, wheel diameter, tires... But you will go about 50 km/h
Haw about puting an electro magnet on the sensor with small arduino type chip, which keeps turning it on with some frequency ( or adding frequency generator directly to the cable)
That's a good idea, but I don't have the skills to do that. Some electronic device are already available on the market for this. like Badassebikes Box.
very smart
AWESOME!
I wonder if this worth the effort
What sort of impact on the motor would this have?
Not much I think, because this is not over driving the motor. It uses the same power, just without cut off.
I've just done this on my YT Decoy 2020 model got 3 miles into a ride and got a E014 fault code, ride over! 🤬 Will put it back to standard once I can sort out the fault
thanks Tomas how to measurements on my bike and what to do
Nice work! I've a very similar frame type, mind sharing/selling the STL-files?
Sure but how can I send you the files?
Thomas Caron please send the file to my email gerarddonders@hotmail.com I been very happy and thankful
Thomas Caron could you send me the files please
THIS SEEMS LIKE A LOT MORE WORK THAN JUST PUTTING MAGNET ON BACK OF PEDAL AND MOVING SENSOR TO OUTSIDE OF THE FRAME. IS THERE SOME ADVANTAGE HERE I'M NOT SEEING?
Shimano system will figure out that the rev per minute of the pedals and wheels are the same and will stop working. They thought about this...
What kind of magnets will work for this type of modification?
Neodymium magnets work the best you can buy them from amazon in all different sizes. They are very strong magnets for there size and I haven't used any other magnet that comes close by power and size.
Hi Thomas, I have a 3D printer. Can you please suggest me where can i find this file? Thanks
On my web site linked just below the video in the description.
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@@atcaron cheers!
@@atcaron I already subscribed to your channel and I am giving you all my support!
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What do you mean by error eo11?
Hi +thomas caron! Would you be able to share the model files you used? I'm interested in modifying for my Giant ebike.
What material did you use to print these parts?
mxkjk1 I used ABS. For the files look into the comments.
Great! Only if I could make those parts...
LOL
I prefer to change preferences in software to US region (20mpg = 32kmp) and software wheel size to 26" it unlock speed to 35kmp without any hardware modifications. :)
35km/h is not fast enough for me! On my unit I can't change the wheel size. Only a dealer can do it. So I was stuck at 32km/h (US settings).
i want one peace of that?
where can i buy one?
thanks
I invented and made this myself. I don't think anybody sells such a kit. This is really bike specific. If you have the exact same bike I could print you one. But if your bike is different, it won't fit because the clamp the goes on the frame must have the right diameter, offset and angle relative to the wheel.
Gualter Jacinto I like the system set up, do they sale the pulley on line?
I made this myself. I guess I could sell you a pulley, but you would still have to make the braket to attach it to the bike...
Hi Thomas I have the same bike as you and was wondering if you would make me the same pulley kit as in the video and how much it would cost? Thanks and hope to hear from you soon you are a real genius.
Neat idea, but this won't work in colder countries. The rubber band will snap in the cold.
Worked for me at -5°C. The only issue is in heavy snow. The pulley gets packed with snow. It would need a guard...
it wont work on my vado e bike(brose motor) the magnet is on the disc brake
where can i get these parts that you use
love to have them
Print them yourself : tom-diy.ca/ebike/download.html
well just but a magnet on the pedals and move the sensor then the bike will show under 1/2 speed and you can get up to 60 km/h if your legs can.
good but those parts can not stay on enduro ebikes. we need a software hack
Hello
I have th same E bike model
Can you please send me the diagram or dimensions of the model to be used in 3D printer 🙏
3D files are now available here :
pages.videotron.com/atcaron/ebike/download.html
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Why don't you just attach the magnet to the pedal? At a 33/11 ratio you can reach speeds of 75km/h... That costs 2 tie wraps and 5 minutes of your time.
If you put the magnet on the pedal, the Shimano system will detect that the wheel goes exactly at the same speed than the pedal and will give you an error message after a few turns... To make this work, you need to put 2 magnets on the crank. But then the max speed drops too much.
@@atcaron On my Giant Prime E+2 with Yamaha sync drive it works perfectly.
@@joerivankallo That's great, but Shimano has something in the firmware to prevent this hack. I whish it was a simple as that!
In my case I did get the E014 error. Not able to remove the error by setting sensor back and turning pedals. So when the where I bought the eBike. Had to replace the motor (on warranty) to fix the error. So do not do this on newer Shimano steps. You destroy your bike.
if its okey for you, can you share 3d files ?
I never used a 3D printer but can you email me the files love to try it thanks
It’s cool but a bit overcommitted there is an easier way to go around
Where did you get that rubber band!!
Any regular rubber band will do
@@atcaron What size is the rubber band?
Hi! Where can I download the project?
do yourself a favor and set the speed to 1.25x
I'm not sure I understand... What speed and where can I set that?
He means the video speed:)
nice work, did not you try to change the wheel circumference through e tube software? I have steps 8000 and it works for me. you need only logged in a company version. I have a wheel of 2200 mm circumference and I set 1400mm. At a speed of about 30 km / h, the display shows 20km / h. the actual maximum speed is about 45 km / h depending on the gears
This is really interesting information. I have a steps 6000 system. In the past I tried to use the e tube without success. Maybe I should try the latest version. Is there a minimum wheel circumference? Could you set it to half the real circumference to double the seed limit? With my modification, my top speed is 64 km/h (twice the original 32 km/h). I frequently go to 50 km/h, so in my case 45 km/h would not be enough. I also changed the front gear to a bigger one to have more top speed.
@@atcaron I did not miss the smallest possible wheel size. I set it up randomly. I work for the company where I mount Steps to a recumbent trike. That's why I use the latest software and I have it unlocked as an OEM maker. I personally drive about 30km / h. It is possible that the engine would also allow a higher speed, but I do not use it. I need to have the strength uphill. Otherwise, justify my English, I use Google Translator
@@miroozimy Is it possible to find such application on the internet ? Basic etube app does not have circumference of wheel.
Would you be able to share the files for 3d printing.
9009Ryuk I can share the 3D file but it is really specific to my bike model. What is your email?
Thomas Caron hello thomas i like to try tis. Can you sent me the files please gerarddonders@hotmail.com
9009Ryuk i will be very happy with 3d drawings thank you very much. emilis.kairys@gmail.com
Can you share me the file, too? kekeisen.thomas@gmail.com
Thomas Caron please can you send me the print files i like to pay doe iT
Would you make this for me and everything to go with it meaning the magnet and Bearings and band and I buy it if you I not got first clue how do 3D printing so if you wouldn’t mind I rather ask if you be able to make me one these and I buy the full set up of you I got the same bike as you so this set up would work perfectly for me be grateful if you could get back to me
Or do you sell this item on eBay or anything
Sorry, I don't sell these, but you can print them yourself or get somebody to print it for you. The files are available on the website listed in the comments.
Thanks
Im a welder... Been fixing engineers stuff all my life...
Wheres my Tig torch
Works for a while but motor stops and fail masage coming
While this is a nice idea, just a friendly reminder - in EU countries - being caught with this on your eBike will be a very serious punishment. Not to mention, if you have an accident and/or injure someone with this kind of modification you will be punished severely for it - since the 25km/h speed limit is there to prevent serious risk to both eBike riders & the general public.
But here's the thing you can get a normal non electric pedal racing bike to go faster a bit unfair don't you think
I think 25 mph would be reasonable
My bike has 11 gears and the motor cuts out on the 9th that's dangerous your going up a gear and hit a massive wall you got a massive sudden loss of power its like throwing a car in reverse when doing 80 mph especially when going up hill down hill i hit 30 mph so what is the point when you go down hill the restrictions don't work anymore any way lmao
The biggest problem is good enough breaks
I say breaks because ebikes especially pedlecs are normally much heavier
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do you sell these how much ??
No but you can download the 3d files on my website.
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Boa noite, você pode passar as medidas da polia por favor?
Cool but never last on a mountain bike
can somebody upload the 3d file and share it
Can you get me all the parts(hardware I need you showed on the video) I'll pay you cash for it.
I'm sorry, I don't sell those parts. You can buy the magnet online, use a bearing from a skateboard or roller blades and 3d print the other parts.
Hi, I just bought a e bike whit 8000 shimano steps can you be so kind and make one for me an send it to me? I am willing to pay you for it.
Me too
Christian Røkenes I have one I like to sell
Not only will this make the bike illegal but going faster is dangerous to everyone else.
İt doesn't work anyway.
can you send my the 3d file i have the same Bike
Sure, but how can I send you the files?
You can share via public dropbox link, for example. or we can provide our email addresses to you via a google survey.
Thomas Caron please send
Want to sell one??
Lost with a smile I like to sell one
Bike whisperer
The link to the website is nog working.
Thanks for the heads up. I just found out my hosting company it out. I need to find another way to host my website...
@@atcaron That woud be great, ik can't wait to try it out. Maybe by a transfernow link?
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Hi,
Where can I buy these parts? Do you sell them?
I don't sell them yet. How much would you be willing to pay for that?
Dont know.. but would like to buy a kit
Hei I want one too. how much for this kit? How i can contact You ?
Speed box 1 is better.
I agree, it's just a question of $
Can you just add a second magnet on the wheel?
Sam's Town Cyclery Cameron Park Shingle Springs this would have the opposite effect. The speedometer would read twice the speed. Therefore the max speed would drop to 16 km/h instead of the original 32 km/h.
Error E014
Your magnet is incorrectly located or is not strong enough...
I'll give you $75 (USD) if you could make me a set.
For that kind of money you should buy a professional solution
@@atcaron c'mon now. You put it a bit of effort into the project. Besides, I've not found a "professional" set-up.
im sure this is a great video but i cant hear a word hes saying!
Can the magnet fallout .
I've put 4000 km on mine without any issue. You could always glue the magnet in place if you wish.
Your disc is bented and owertightend!
Why do you say that my disk is bent and over-tightened?
Sory it is not owertightend but fhe bend you can hear at 6:15 (uneaven rub) but that whose a year before today so i can not owerestamate what is the state of that bike today. Sory if you got ofended os somthing like that.
@@atcaron Great wideo btw..
How to fix E014 error?
Damian Szymański you will get error e014 if you put the magnet on the pedal crank. With my modification you will not get E014. The system reports E014 when the wheel speed and the crank speed is the same.
How fix this error?
Just go use the bike and it wil gone
White the Magnet in normal positionering ofcorse
Now my bike has e014 error you ruined my bike
I'm now up to 10500km with this modification without any problem. Maybe the magnet is not properly aligned with the sensor. Double check where the magnet should be relative to the sensor. Maybe also your magnet is to strong or too weak. make some test holding the magnet in your hand and passing it near the sensor.
Why dont buy an ebike that can go faster, innstead of this shit. Ive a mecanic in a bikeshop and we are importers of on eof the big brands worlwide here in Norway, and i cant count the times people commes with a hacked bike. They want me to fix after they fuckem up. We just show the the door and explain why we dont want to help. Pluss all garanties are out the window as soon you do something like that. And its also dangerus. How many times ive seen accidents with ebike s becouse they go to fast to other people to react and move. One of my friends broke here arm after beeing hit by and ebiker that was to fast. Polise tok his bike, he has to pay for all here treatment, pluss a big fine for him. And he deserves it. People comming in 40-50 KM/h on the sidewalk its absolutley insaine. And are you lucky and a old lady comes around the bend on hers ebike, you dont have a chance. For me its about care about other people and safety. And why do you need to go ,,40 km/h on the trails, its dangerus for other people that walk same plase. Its better to by a class2 ebike, register it so you can drive on the road legally. Ore buy a fucking mxbike ore moped, its cheaper also. Then you have more power for less. Ebikes are great tol for the right guys, they are funny even in uphills. But i crush every ebiker around here with my endurobike in the downhills every time. So for me its just stupid. And most of the time its so tecnical trail you cant go that fast anyway. Thats what these bikes are made for. And you can ride longer, so you can play more in the woods. But do it the right way guys. Thats all.
WAYYYYY to much work
R Terry agree but’s that the kind of thing I like to do.