Electric Mountain Bike Network Thanks for the informative video on Shimano and E-TUBE app I have learnt some tips from this video but I was waiting in anticipation for the ability to customise Eco mode as shown on the embn show a little while ago.Perhaps you could ask Pete this question and update the video on how to that would be great!Love the channel and all its content 👍🏻
First of all thank you for the video. As a guy coming from technologically oriented e-bike audience (rather then bike audience curious about ebike or switching to ebike from normal bike). I would like to see more customization. 1) Firmware updates are nice.. 2) The profile settings, well the basic presets like "Turbo, Eco, etc" are good probably if you don't care how it works but you just like that it works, but for someone who know what he wants there should be more transparent way how to define profile.. I want this much power W, this much Torque Nm and for example this curve that will setup modulation of those parameters.. linear etc.. 3) App is great way how to unlock the full potential of motor (no matter what it means for each Shimano motor). Yes the 250W nominal power limitation based on EU regulation is real, but the very same regulations does allow more for offroad use only *g) Article 2 REGULATION (EU) No 168/2013 ...and lets face it mountain bike is called mountain bike for a reason..
No wheel size option so the displayed speed is not right when using non standard wheels and assistsnce speed limiter also cuts off ro early if we have smaller wheels.
I can't find the the different levels of the various modes explained anywhere. It's maddening. What is the difference between low and medium setting on trail mode for example. Is there any explanation anywhere, or do you just have to try each in turn and guess?
Did you see on the first page the software he’s two to five stars note ! in fact, having used this software, the little we should say is « bullshit ». Why Shimano did not decide to massively improve this software ? Anything arriving ? It’s becoming urgent face to the strong Bosch competition with his V4 and 2021 update ! I am an ancient KTM Bosch, now Cannondale shimano. I will certainly change my engine brand for my next emtb
Thank you for the video, I appreciate it. Regarding riding characteristic, what does High, Medium, and Low actually translate into? How would I experience it on the bike. I can't find anything that explains it. What does it really mean? Thanks
Bluetooth lost connection on my mates bike whilst updating the firmware for the switch, couldn't select anything on the computer from thereon, took it back to shop and even they couldn't get the switch to show itself even hardwired, had to rob one off another bike whilst his got sent back to shimano, 10 day turnaround, don't ever do any updates whilst out in the field or if your planning on leaving the next day or so for travels you will regret it if it goes wrong.
The steps is a gorgeous display and in the perfect place. I would like to get a Bosch cx bike but can’t stand the look of the purion, the Yamaha display A looks better than the Purion but the steps is something else.
@@amiralagic612 your right it does look nice, I bought my wife the Bosch nyon recently to replace the intuvia computer on her bike and it’s amazing…lots of info, graphs, maps etc. wish Yamaha did something like that.
why hasn't shimano and another ebike motor companies released software that we can install on windows/mac/linux computers so we can directly connect to the bike ourselves.
good video but tried to upgrade to my e-bike a vitus e- escarpe through SC-EM 800 bike computer but it doesn't seem to have a bluetooth LE function so failed straight away.
Thanks for great review ! Really a problem that the power for each mode only has 3 level settings. That would be fine if people only weighed in very narrow ranges. Should be a like 10-20 different or just little ticks to customize the power levels. For instance my wife is super light weight and even a low level on eco might be too much for her sometimes when she wants harder training, even if the lowest setting is perfect, the medium level may be too much for her "medium". Just 3 settings for each mode is ridiculous.
Happened to me right after I brought bike home on a Saturday. Couldn't enjoy the new ride until Monday morning when shop opened and could plug into Windows PC using cable. $20 but at least it un-bricked it.
I would like to know if the setting exists to roll with power after a non pedal stroke input....say like the Bosch that claims in can be set to keep a 1 meter power roll when a non pedal stroke happens. Thanks, Tony
I have a a Shimano en500 on my bike with a ep8 motor. It’s a Husqvarna MC4 a few years old. Would it be worth up grading to a sc-e 8000 so I can us the e-tube app? I’ve watched a video in German and it looks quite easy to change over. Cheers Jonathan
Thank you for the video.I have followed the insructions , find the e8000 when it connects, but then says 'The Bluetooth LE connection was interrupted. Try connecting again. PLEASE HELP!
Thx for the video. My only problem is that the "Bluetooth LE" option will not show up on my display under "Setting." My system is E-8000. Any advice? Again, thx for making the video.
Can u connect the shimano steps system with e-tube apps directly without any addictional bt dongle like d-fly? Mine is asking for a pairing code thant shown on steps display? My steps display didn't show anything :).
If it was they would have mentioned it, as far as I am aware the speed restrictions are set depending on the limit in the country the bike is being sold in.
so is there an easy way to get the display or the app to show the exact percentage of power being left? btw sorry, maybe they said it, but it's not my mother language and unfortunately i didn't understand what was being said about shimano dealers at the end.. thanks! 🙏
Hi Guys, I have an SC-E5003 fitted as standard to my Merida 5000 E160, EP8 motor, which means I have no access to do set up changes to the motor, can I fit and use the SC-EM800 with the SC-E5003. Does the SC-E5003 connect to the motor wirelessly or does it need a wire connection? How would I configure the system to work with the SC-E5003? Any help would be great.
the most impressive thing about this is the shimano themed iphone cover. i'm thinking that an ebike is a bike. do I really need to pfaff about with an iphone app just to go riding
@@embn the setting I customise are my tyre and suspension pressures I.E things that matter. I assume you would use an app to adjust your toaster for perfect toast. the point is just because you can have an app for something does not automatically make it useful
@@tomquimby8669 Deprndinh from tider power assistance level can be to eeak or to strong. In standard eco mode I vould go no more than 100 km trip. After changing parameters for less assistance level I can go much more. If the bike has 25 km/h limit than I do not need such big piwer in eco mode. The right smount is I achieve 25 speed and no more so sssistsns cut off not exist. If I need more piwer I still can chsnge to trisl boost. The eco mode is critical for long trips and must have option.
@@mg_uve oh wow that's not good. I take it you took the battery out and tried again. Or maybe took it to a bike shop. I dont think il be using this app.
App would be much nicer if it actually connected to my bike. I have had nothing but problems getting the app to connect, it has in the past but now it won't work at all. Things I've done to try and fix the problem. 1. Deleted and redownload the app 2. Used phone bluetooth settings to forget the connection and retry connection 3. Made sure location services were on for the etube app permissions 4. Had the local shop connect via cable to the bike and have them reset the PIN and connection settings. Nothing works in the end and I will always get "connection interrupted" message when trying to link the phone (android pixel phone) to the bike. This app needs serious rework to make it more user friendly, I've never had so much trouble trying to link a bluetooth device to my phone.
Took like 20 seconds between launching the app and having it reach a state where it can actually read user input. That's "poor" in my book and I would think totally unacceptable for the average smartphone user.
pain in the arse,setup the app completely different when i open the app on android,new bike came yesterday cost me a fortune am pissed off as cant be setup like you done
I shouldn't have to take a computer course to ride a bicycle come on people I got one of these E6000 since nothing but a headache I can't even turn it on and nobody can tell me why I don't have an on button
So.. I cant get the friggin update downloaded. The manual is absolutely useless. Useless. You guys did the upgrade before you got to this point. But you didn't show that.....
I think that you should give me a tee shirt, after I had to send the motor unit back to shimano, when it completely corrupted the BIOS during upgrade via Bluetooth - don't do it! Get the bike shop good it via hard wire cable, and then you can faff about with these settings no problem.
You guys seem to push Canyon, but when you try to buy a bike from them, they treat you like they don't want your money! Could you do a video on how to trick them into selling you a bike.
They sold me one. It's really rather good. Took about two weeks to arrive and don't trust their crap delivery tracking. Comes to UK via DHL, then delivered using another company. Very odd and scary at the time.
This app is catastrophic. Slow, not user friendly, very complicated to understand. Proof is this video that need to explain how it works. Besides E-TUBE did crash my Di2 on road bike during software update... no update possible and no shifting for a month. Only option was to use a cable and a PC. But I am using MacBook... shame on you Shimano, you are not a tech company, like Garmin with bad software it will be replace by Wahoo or other good competitor that know how important is a software!!!
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Electric Mountain Bike Network Thanks for the informative video on Shimano and E-TUBE app I have learnt some tips from this video but I was waiting in anticipation for the ability to customise Eco mode as shown on the embn show a little while ago.Perhaps you could ask Pete this question and update the video on how to that would be great!Love the channel and all its content 👍🏻
Yes, thank you for the video. And I also can not understand why I can not simply put the Eco mode with the APP a bit softer.
It is a pity that I can not sort the display myself. And hey! Why do I not have a button for the display on the left lever?????
@@jam2junkie339 Thanks! You can currently do this on PC and they have an App update coming out soon where we have heard you may be able to do this 👍
Somewhat useful, but it doesn't explain what the various levels of the different modes mean. Any suggestions much appreciated.
First of all thank you for the video.
As a guy coming from technologically oriented e-bike audience (rather then bike audience curious about ebike or switching to ebike from normal bike). I would like to see more customization.
1) Firmware updates are nice..
2) The profile settings, well the basic presets like "Turbo, Eco, etc" are good probably if you don't care how it works but you just like that it works, but for someone who know what he wants there should be more transparent way how to define profile.. I want this much power W, this much Torque Nm and for example this curve that will setup modulation of those parameters.. linear etc..
3) App is great way how to unlock the full potential of motor (no matter what it means for each Shimano motor). Yes the 250W nominal power limitation based on EU regulation is real, but the very same regulations does allow more for offroad use only *g) Article 2 REGULATION (EU) No 168/2013 ...and lets face it mountain bike is called mountain bike for a reason..
Getting my first EBike this week, Focus Jam2 6.7 2019, can't wait to try this out!!
Ryan C same as me mate, mine arrives tomorrow, dubious about the app though as heard a few horror stories on it
Is it possible to change the max speed from 25km/h to 30km/h .... ??? 25 is to slow on the single track's to follow the other riders....
No wheel size option so the displayed speed is not right when using non standard wheels and assistsnce speed limiter also cuts off ro early if we have smaller wheels.
Just what I was looking for! Thanks guys!
I can't find the the different levels of the various modes explained anywhere. It's maddening. What is the difference between low and medium setting on trail mode for example. Is there any explanation anywhere, or do you just have to try each in turn and guess?
Thanks again guys! Beats digging out the manual.
Did you see on the first page the software he’s two to five stars note ! in fact, having used this software, the little we should say is « bullshit ». Why Shimano did not decide to massively improve this software ? Anything arriving ? It’s becoming urgent face to the strong Bosch competition with his V4 and 2021 update ! I am an ancient KTM Bosch, now Cannondale shimano. I will certainly change my engine brand for my next emtb
Thank you for the video, I appreciate it. Regarding riding characteristic, what does High, Medium, and Low actually translate into? How would I experience it on the bike. I can't find anything that explains it. What does it really mean?
Thanks
Why shimano cannot show rider input power, like specialized ebikes do?
shame you didn't wait until V3.4.3 is out in a few days. I'd like to hear about what difference the new updates makes?
Bluetooth lost connection on my mates bike whilst updating the firmware for the switch, couldn't select anything on the computer from thereon, took it back to shop and even they couldn't get the switch to show itself even hardwired, had to rob one off another bike whilst his got sent back to shimano, 10 day turnaround, don't ever do any updates whilst out in the field or if your planning on leaving the next day or so for travels you will regret it if it goes wrong.
The steps is a gorgeous display and in the perfect place. I would like to get a Bosch cx bike but can’t stand the look of the purion, the Yamaha display A looks better than the Purion but the steps is something else.
There is Kiox and much better Nyon from Bosch. With navigation and many other widgets(altitude graphs...)
@@amiralagic612 your right it does look nice, I bought my wife the Bosch nyon recently to replace the intuvia computer on her bike and it’s amazing…lots of info, graphs, maps etc. wish Yamaha did something like that.
Good info but I wish the presenter didn't constantly overtalk the expert. Annoying for him and us.
Can tell expert wasn’t happy with him
I agree. He is the most annoying presenter in both gmbt and embt
Was just about to say the same thing. Stop yammering & let the expert talk.
I would have liked Pete to have gone over the ANT connection to garmin devices. Shimano documentation of this feature is poor.
Still waiting for the eco
tuning feature to arrive on the iOS app,
Download emax
Thank you sooooooo much .been trying to get mine to work .the video makes me feel smarter .Time to give it a try .👍👍👍
Hi John, glad to see you liked the video. All the best with sorting it all out! 👍
The ECO mode is customizable now.
But only with PCEM box.
You miseed that yon can change Eco with the Windows Application. Also 4.7 is the latest Fw.
why hasn't shimano and another ebike motor companies released software that we can install on windows/mac/linux computers so we can directly connect to the bike ourselves.
good video but tried to upgrade to my e-bike a vitus e- escarpe through SC-EM 800 bike computer but it doesn't seem to have a bluetooth LE function so failed straight away.
Thanks for great review !
Really a problem that the power for each mode only has 3 level settings. That would be fine if people only weighed in very narrow ranges. Should be a like 10-20 different or just little ticks to customize the power levels. For instance my wife is super light weight and even a low level on eco might be too much for her sometimes when she wants harder training, even if the lowest setting is perfect, the medium level may be too much for her "medium". Just 3 settings for each mode is ridiculous.
Please tell the shimano guy to let us customize the eco mode. Default is applying to much torque imho.
This can currently be done on PC and we have heard the next IOS update may have this feature 👍
You were right. Update for iOS is out, it is cool now!
You csn do it by stepsderistictor aplication from google play cost ca 2$. Assistance parametrrs are available and much better than e tube offers.
Chris Kros will it void the warranty on the motor?
@@chriskros8858 will it void the warranty?
How do you reset all power levels to factory standard as the bike came when you have messed around with them please ?
Lots of people claim to have bricked their motor updating firmware via the app
iv used it to cutomise boost will that brick my motor ?
Happened to me right after I brought bike home on a Saturday. Couldn't enjoy the new ride until Monday morning when shop opened and could plug into Windows PC using cable. $20 but at least it un-bricked it.
That happened to me. Much worse though. See above.
Does the battery have to be fully charged for the display to show the Bluetooth LE option? Thanks
Having same issue. Did you fix it?
@@sadie2431 yeah. Just can’t remember now as I have a new bike with Bosch Motor lol
I would like to know if the setting exists to roll with power after a non pedal stroke input....say like the Bosch that claims in can be set to keep a 1 meter power roll when a non pedal stroke happens. Thanks, Tony
I have a a Shimano en500 on my bike with a ep8 motor. It’s a Husqvarna MC4 a few years old. Would it be worth up grading to a sc-e 8000 so I can us the e-tube app?
I’ve watched a video in German and it looks quite easy to change over.
Cheers
Jonathan
Steve: "Hi Pete, It's Steve Jones..."
Pete: "Ahh, shit..."
Thank you for the video.I have followed the insructions , find the e8000 when it connects, but then says 'The Bluetooth LE connection was interrupted. Try connecting again.
PLEASE HELP!
First of all, disconnect all Bluetooth connections on your smartphone. Then it worked for me right away.
Same problem here, even after disconnecting all Bluetooth devices
best bang for the buck
shimano sc-e5003a is this computer supported on the app? thanks
A light years of third-party software where you can touch the torque and modify the echo to your liking. For when shimano?
EMBN you need to do the Hovis Challenge on an EMTB.....
Olá sou do Brasil, aqui os motores shimano steps vem com limitador de velocidade, com o App é possível desbloquear esse limitador? Muito obrigado
Thx for the video. My only problem is that the "Bluetooth LE" option will not show up on my display under "Setting." My system is E-8000. Any advice? Again, thx for making the video.
Same issue. Did you fix it?
Can i get unlock speed limiter with this apps?
Search ST Unlocker on the app store...
Just got a 2021 Merida e140 400 it ain’t got this colour screen on ? Can anyone help with connection ? Or has it the wrong screen on ? Thanks
Can u connect the shimano steps system with e-tube apps directly without any addictional bt dongle like d-fly? Mine is asking for a pairing code thant shown on steps display? My steps display didn't show anything :).
hi i have the same problem, have you solved it?
My bike is Bluetooth capable but the Bluetooth LE doesn’t show up in settings. Any ideas?
Pete how do I roll back to v 3.x.x as the new version no longer works on my phone
Contact your local Shimano S.T.E.P.S dealer as they can let you know if it is possible to do this. Are you not able to update your phone software?
Is it possible to change the maximum speed from 25km/h to 30km/h or 32km/h? Through program? Which one? Do you teach how to configure? Thanks
If it was they would have mentioned it, as far as I am aware the speed restrictions are set depending on the limit in the country the bike is being sold in.
Great Content as Ussual ! Thanks a Lot !!
Thanks Nex 👊
I wish my Bafang BBSHD had the Bluetooth option. You need to plug it into a windows laptop to deregulate it.
so is there an easy way to get the display or the app to show the exact percentage of power being left?
btw sorry, maybe they said it, but it's not my mother language and unfortunately i didn't understand what was being said about shimano dealers at the end.. thanks! 🙏
My fenix 6 solar auto connects and displays the battery percentage
Hi Guys, I have an SC-E5003 fitted as standard to my Merida 5000 E160, EP8 motor, which means I have no access to do set up changes to the motor, can I fit and use the SC-EM800 with the SC-E5003. Does the SC-E5003 connect to the motor wirelessly or does it need a wire connection? How would I configure the system to work with the SC-E5003? Any help would be great.
What's this like vs the specialized
So if your bike doesn’t have the screen?
Hello m8, very nice video,but, how can i reset the pin? I forgot it, thanks
hi i have the same problem, have you solved it?
@@gian5878 you can't reset it....
@@laurC89 damn
@@laurC89 so you don't see the stats of your bike, right?
@@gian5878 right
For a second hand bike how can I pair it again? I cannot contact the old owner and the code is not 000000
i don't have a smartphone, how can i do this with my windows 10 laptop and bluetooth?
First love the vids inspiring
🏆🏁
Two stars on app store? No thanks
Yep because the app is so buggy... From connecting to brick your motor.
richie smith works fine
Works fine for me.
Would it work for BT-E6010?
His beard 👍🏻
You need to tidy up those cables, it’s like spaghetti junction!
I was upgrading softwares and suddenly got disconnected and now the bike won’t start. Please help! 🙏🏼
I have tried to bluetooth pin 6 x 0 and unable to connect to the app, any idea's?
hi i have the same problem, have you solved it?
@@gian5878 same here
the most impressive thing about this is the shimano themed iphone cover. i'm thinking that an ebike is a bike. do I really need to pfaff about with an iphone app just to go riding
Not at all! But you can if you'd like to customise your settings 👍
@@embn the setting I customise are my tyre and suspension pressures I.E things that matter. I assume you would use an app to adjust your toaster for perfect toast. the point is just because you can have an app for something does not automatically make it useful
@@tomquimby8669 Deprndinh from tider power assistance level can be to eeak or to strong.
In standard eco mode I vould go no more than 100 km trip.
After changing parameters for less assistance level I can go much more.
If the bike has 25 km/h limit than I do not need such big piwer in eco mode. The right smount is I achieve 25 speed and no more so sssistsns cut off not exist.
If I need more piwer I still can chsnge to trisl boost.
The eco mode is critical for long trips and must have option.
What's error24 mean?
I have an E6000 unit and it doesn't have that low powered Bluetooth button? No idea how to update it
Same. Did you fix it?
@@sadie2431 - Nope and Shimano never answer questions on any platform
didn't use update if the connection gets interrupted you will brake your bike
I have a shimano e8000. I changed the bluetooth password and now I don't remember it. Is it possible to reset the password? Shimano doesn't answer me.
Did you get an answer ? It's been a year
@@Cookie.x.monsterr No, nothing :/
@@mg_uve oh wow that's not good. I take it you took the battery out and tried again. Or maybe took it to a bike shop. I dont think il be using this app.
hi i have the same problem, have you solved it?
@@gian5878 no :(
Turbo Levo owners look on in disgust, as we assumed all other ebikes had this option all along.
i was sat on that bench no more than 24 hours ago
Shimano needs an app to derestrict as easy as the specialized levo👍😎. For use on private property, obviously 😁.
RossKTM
Its called emax 🤙🏻i put mine to usa restriction and its awsome 32 kmh
@@oliviermissal8739 don't see it in android app store
My e bike metter has been broken can help somebody my bike shimano
App would be much nicer if it actually connected to my bike. I have had nothing but problems getting the app to connect, it has in the past but now it won't work at all. Things I've done to try and fix the problem. 1. Deleted and redownload the app 2. Used phone bluetooth settings to forget the connection and retry connection 3. Made sure location services were on for the etube app permissions 4. Had the local shop connect via cable to the bike and have them reset the PIN and connection settings. Nothing works in the end and I will always get "connection interrupted" message when trying to link the phone (android pixel phone) to the bike. This app needs serious rework to make it more user friendly, I've never had so much trouble trying to link a bluetooth device to my phone.
Fucking infuriating. I paid 10 grand for the bike!
hi how did you reset the pin? I bought a second hand bike and I can't connect to the app because it asks me for a pin
well I guess its time to get a smart phone,cheers tho mate helpful stuff
This doesn’t work for me it says I need a code to connect it
hi i have the same problem, have you solved it?
Took like 20 seconds between launching the app and having it reach a state where it can actually read user input.
That's "poor" in my book and I would think totally unacceptable for the average smartphone user.
pain in the arse,setup the app completely different when i open the app on android,new bike came yesterday cost me a fortune am pissed off as cant be setup like you done
the real ebiker spent all his money on a bike and still using a 2012 iphone 5
If it ain’t broke..
you should tell people DO NOT RESET BLUETOOTH CODE UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE DEALER TO RESET STEPS.
E-Tube... nothing to do with tyres, tubes, online videos or the London Underground...what a daft name for a useful app.
Haha the stumped look on his face when he can't work out what 20 miles to one charge adds up to with a 1000 charges 😂
down load to my iphone,what do I do next....throw iphone away 😜
I shouldn't have to take a computer course to ride a bicycle come on people I got one of these E6000 since nothing but a headache I can't even turn it on and nobody can tell me why I don't have an on button
OH YEAH. WILL I BE CHARGED FOR GOING INTO DEALERSHOP?
Now very much out of date, bike computer no longer gas LE connection on menu, works without selecting anything
The app sucks. Won’t connect
So.. I cant get the friggin update downloaded.
The manual is absolutely useless.
Useless.
You guys did the upgrade before you got to this point.
But you didn't show that.....
I think that you should give me a tee shirt, after I had to send the motor unit back to shimano, when it completely corrupted the BIOS during upgrade via Bluetooth - don't do it!
Get the bike shop good it via hard wire cable, and then you can faff about with these settings no problem.
You guys seem to push Canyon, but when you try to buy a bike from them, they treat you like they don't want your money! Could you do a video on how to trick them into selling you a bike.
They sold me one. It's really rather good.
Took about two weeks to arrive and don't trust their crap delivery tracking. Comes to UK via DHL, then delivered using another company. Very odd and scary at the time.
@@adambcvg I'm going to give them a miss. Not confident they would be any better if I had issues with a bike I purchased.
@@TheAquanomad I entirely understand! I would have bought a YT but they didn't exist at that point...
I bought a spectral on few months ago and really I couldn’t be happier!! Awsome bike , nothing to say
This app is catastrophic. Slow, not user friendly, very complicated to understand. Proof is this video that need to explain how it works. Besides E-TUBE did crash my Di2 on road bike during software update... no update possible and no shifting for a month. Only option was to use a cable and a PC. But I am using MacBook... shame on you Shimano, you are not a tech company, like Garmin with bad software it will be replace by Wahoo or other good competitor that know how important is a software!!!
Yea but can you hack the speed with apps? 🤣
Your chemistry was not really good :(
The cringe is strong with this one 😬
Bit basic
Looks a little bit overengineered at a first glance for me- stay foolish 👍😉
unless I can completely derestrict my bike the app is useless.
Michael E
Download emax its what you need🤙🏻
Bodo
Such unclear accent for non english mother language
I hate how the host cuts of the guess who is the product manager with stupid uneeded opinion like if he was the one who made the product.
I can't seem to connect my Steps e5000. Can't figure out why.