Kreese Drops BIG Terry Silver HINT in Season 2 and We All Missed it - Cobra Kai Explained
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Did anyone else catch that in Cobra Kai season 2 when Kreese sits down with Johnny Lawrence to talk about his old war buddy who gave him a job that he eventually turned down? Johnny mentions the trip to Tahiti, which was 32 years ago as a collective of things he thinks Kreese might have lied about too. That trip was a gift from Terry Silver during Karate Kid 3 when Daniel (Ralph Macchio) fought Mike Barnes (Sean Kanan). I think Silver helped Kreese with a job and something might have happened that caused Kreese to choose shelters over going back to Silver for help.
If this was Silver that Kreese was referring to, then what happened? Did they have a falling out? Did Silver go somewhere far away? Did Kreese have a hard time doing the jobs for moral reasons?
I hope Cobra Kai Season 3 will give us new explanations on Terry Silver and Kreese as we develop Johnny and Daniel's backstory...and hopefully, Miyagi's through Chozen!
#cobrakai #karatekid #terrysilver
He also mentioned "his buddy" who took his Vietnam photo on the wall in the office, who is obviously Silver.
Yeah that was the part I thought he was going to talk about
I noticed that too.
Yh I thought that too
That was what I said to myself, as soon as I saw this title lol
Same
Kreese is a “homeless”, so how does he have money to pay the bills at cobra Kai, somebody is paying it and it has to be silver!
Solid observation.
He said he made a deal with the landlord
Warren Ward who knows if he is lying, besides why would the land lord make a deal with kreese.
Not really, all he did was take charge of the dojo that at this point is self sustaining because it has enough students...
@@gustavoteixeira3012 Because he probably said he would kick his ass.
You're all wrong. Stingray is clearly Terry Silver's son ...
LMFAO
yes
That would be hilarious if it were true
Yaaay our Stingray🤣
Bobby...I needed that! Thank you
Silver is in the back pulling strings. Kreese living in a shelter is a setup. They both are up to something big... season 3, here we go.
I definitely agree.
Pretty sure season 3 will open with Kreese having Hawk go to the hospital to pull the plug on Miguel. No Mercy. This show is great.
Definitely agree
Exactly!
@Joshua Guillen lmao same
Terry Silver is coming back season 4. Kreese called him at the end.
Yes
Hope so and not for just 10 minutes either. I want a lot of silver and Barnes
@@jasonvoorhees6416 i think S4 will evolve somewhere around Johnny & Daniel VS Kreese & Silver.
I'm sure Terry Silver will be just another "old man" who fought in Vietnam who now gets his butt kicked by Johnny and Daniel. ... I'm not pleased the way the writers had John Kreese lose to Daniel LaRusso and Johnny Lawrence.
It would not be appropriate to have Terry Silver defeat Daniel and Johnny at this point, because Terry Silver was not as skilled as John Kreese. Terry Silver even said, "John Kreese is the greatest karate man I have ever known."
If the writers would have simply had John Kreese and Terry Silver be virtually invincible in the same way that Mr. Myagi was virtually invincible in the Karate Kid movies, things would have been SO MUCH BETTER!
It is Kreese who should be "teaching" the "new" forms of techniques in the "Cobra Kai" TV series. Yet Daniel is learning from Chozen. That is an inferior plot.
@@michaelzoran I'm thinking Silver will be the voice of reason and convince Kreese to leave Cobra Kai. He's probably changed after a few decades but will still hate Daniel.
How do we all know that Johnny meeting him in the home wasn't apart of some scheming plan of his to begin with to reel him in so he could get back into the dojo
It was, but it doesn't mean he was definitely lying
@@kono5933 Yea I feel like in the end of it all they will show Silver had something to do with the old man coming back
I thought the same thing. Can't trust someone who faked their death twice.
It wouldn't be that hard to stage a shelter. This feels like the evil version of the sting . Where it's all fake.
@Evan Koch Agreed. We’ll probably find that out in the next season.
My one problem with Kreese and Silver had no respect for Miyagi's Medal of Honor.
Right as ex SF vets they would both be in Aww over it. Kreese would have condemned hawks actions in taking it. Somethings are just held as sacred.
They held racist attitudes to Miyagi cause of the war. They believed Miyagi's Medal was falsely earned.
@@OperationSpider on point
Kreese calling Miyagi "slope"
Shows his racism
Mike Barnes even called him "Jap" during the tournament
@@southpawmoose There's been no indication so far that Kreese & Silver were SF. Kreese's photo says that he was the US Army Karate Champion & his jacket in Cobra Kai has the 1st Infantry Division patch on it.
@@trashman101 We believe Kreese & Silver were Special Forces is from that picture in the CK dojo from the first movie.
Can't wait for Johnny to meet Terry Silver for the first time
Having been thinking about that meeting for ages. Going to be interesting, to say the very least.
How would Johnny interest Terry any more than Mike? They both lost against Daniel. Now Johnny vs Mike is something I want to see.
I'm really hyped for that. But also about Johnny meeting Mike Barnes. Man this will be so cool. And Chozen will have a Appearence too. Gosh..this will almost be like Avengers Endgame xD
ASAI! ASAI! ASAI!
@@songoku9348 Whatever you say Man
I'd like to know if Miyagi ever told Daniel about "The Next Karate Kid " Hillary Swanks Character, or if he kept that a secret
I figured she'd have been at his funeral I don't understand why or how they wouldn't have met
I think the creators said the two met at Miyagi's funeral
@MrGonzale09 a story for another season....
Maybe Daniel and Julie will meet when visiting Mr miyagi and id say they met at mr miyagis funeral
@MrGonzale09 He might be getting pulverized by Barnes, and she steps in and saves him lol.
“I Like That, Johnny!”
“I’m Gonna Use That!”
Best youtuber that gives theory's for Cobra kai❤️
I have a slight theory that was the plan. Just a slight one
Terry Silver always looked like Steven Segal’s Afterbirth
Yes omg I thought they were related tbh🤣🤣🤣🤣
You respect buddy, he was Valek in John Carpenter's Vampires.
I was born in a log cabin I built with my own two hands.
- Steven Segal
@@Captain_Dick_Swett why is he stealing Chuck Norris' origin?
Robert Garcia looks like terry silver
I immediately recognized John Kreese was referring to Terry Silver as his ole' war buddy. And there is no doubt John Kreese is still friends with Terry Silver. John Kreese specifically spoke highly of Terry Silver to Johnny Lawrence, as proven by the mention of "The trip to Tahiti." The fact is, as we saw in Karate Kid 3, John Kreese simply does not like accepting "handouts" - not even from his ole' war buddy, Terry Silver.
Kreese did not mind making "payments" to Terry Silver, because that was fair. But Kreese had a payment with the "handouts," just as we saw at the beginning of Karate Kid 3. As long as there is a way for Kreese to play a role in making some form of payment back to Silver, Kreese is fine with that - as we saw confirmed when Kreese was willing to accept a "handout" of multiple Cobra Kai dojos from Terry Silver in the second half of Karate Kid 3. But, Kreese would have worked at multiple dojos and presumably made similar payments to Terry Silver.
There is no doubt it was Terry Silver who offered this "job" to John Kreese. But, that was a form of "handout" that John Kreese was not interested in and wanted no part of, because of his personal pride.
Also, John Kreese is "evil" enough that he he had no problem with allowing Terry Silver to dump nuclear waste wherever Terry Silver wanted. So, don't go saying John Kreese is the "good guy" just yet. John Kreese is like J.R. Ewing - he is "good" at being a "bad guy." And that is the way I like it.
Yeah the title is a little...eh...I knew exactly what he was going to say before I even clicked on the video. Great channel though
I just like seeing Kreese and his bad ass grin he makes
@@lopezrome1982, I no longer care about the Cobra Kai TV series. I'm not even going to subscribe to Season 3. I saw a video that completely ruined the entire series. I now regard it as if the Cobra Kai series is not part of the plot. Here is what I wrote as a comment somewhere else:
DISAPPOINTMENT! ... Cobra Kai has officially "Died" to me. ... I'm glad I saw this. I'm NOT going to bother subscribing to Netflix and watching this now. ... There is NO WAY that the "Student" Johnny Lawrence would ever be able to defeat the "Teacher" John Kreese. ... John Kreese is the pioneering founder of Cobra Kai karate. And John Kreese was the repeated military champion of karate.
Martin Kove played John Kreese so well that he stood out from the crowd and became the star of the show. The way we heard people over the years say, "Sweep the Leg" was awesome. And the way we heard people say, "Strike First, Strike Hard, No Mercy!" was also amazing. Everybody knew it was Sensei John Kreese who was being quoted. Now, there is an entire TV series based on Cobra Kai - the martial art and way of life that was created by John Kreese.
This was similar to the way the TV show called Dallas was not originally supposed to focus on J.R. Ewing, but Larry Hagman played J.R. Ewing so well that he stood out from the crowed and became the start of the show.
John Kreese was my favorite character. I loved Season 1 and 2, because they showed Cobra Kai represented what we all wanted all along - a TV series where it was okay for the bad guys we loved to win. I truly hoped John Kreese would be invincible in the Cobra Kai TV series the way Mr. Myagi was in the Karate Kid movies. Sadly, that did not happen.
Unfortunately, Season 3 here shows the new Producers over at politically-correct Netflix insist the good guys win, as usual. Legendary karate instructor John Kreese has now been defeated by his student, Johnny Lawrence. And John Kreese has now been defeated by Daniel LaRusso - who used techniques from someone who should have been his enemy. This means John Kreese is weaker than Johnny Lawrence, weaker than Chozen, and weaker than Daniel LaRusso.
I am sure the politically correct writers and producers over at Netflix will soon have it so Daniel LaRusso welcomes transexuals at his dojo. And I'm sure some of those transexuals will will beat up on John Kreese for teasing them, because he is ole' fashioned and believes you should remain a male or female when you are born a male or female.
Well, I better stop writing before the owners of facebook, Twitter, Microsoft, Apple, Google, and other tech giants say I'm inciting riots somewhere in the world.
I'm not even bothering subscribing to Cobra Kai Season 3.
Sadly... Cobra Kai has officially "Died."
Or Maybe silver is in prison for dumping toxic shit everywhere
😂😂😂😂🙏
I didn't miss it, there are several hints through season 2. Season 3 is going to be something else! Can't wait!
This has been a surprisingly good series. They way they've brought back so many people from the original KK is amazing and very nostalgic feeling. Seeing everything from Johnny's side, making it appear like Daniel was really the bad guy. Just goes to show there's also two sides with two different stories and viewpoints. And the way Johnny's son is fond of Daniel and trained by him is really cool for a twist. I do see Johnny and Daniel joining up though, they're both not bad guys. Would be friends if they didn't end up vs each other like they did and now hold a ton of resentment towards each other. But i think that changes a bit in season 3. Both of them will have bigger fish to fry and join forces, most likely Johnny joins Miyagi-do. And seeing how Hawk went from nerd to totally sold out for Cobra Kai no mercy bit is cool also. Seeing how he's changed to become really a deadly weapon for Cobra Kai. Really cool series though
I agree I see a alliance between Johnny and Daniel - I have become a Johnny fan over the 2 seasons and they made Daniel son look like a butt head - I think the writers will make him see himself as his own worse enemy
Yeah it shows a sophisticated understanding of Karate Kid, eg to a child mind it is simply a case of Daniel = good and JOhnny = bad but the more sophisticated adult eye perceived differently. I really appreciate how they have observed that Johnny was on a collision course with Kreese over the "sweep the leg" issue and they effectively replayed the '84 tournament and we get to explore how things would pan out should Johnny have won
When he puts the cigar out and says my condolences.. 🐍
Who’s here after the end of season 3, looks like Silver will be coming in season 4
Yup
Yep
DISAPPOINTMENT! ... Cobra Kai has officially "Died" to me. ... I'm glad I saw this. I'm NOT going to bother subscribing to Netflix and watching this now. ... There is NO WAY that the "Student" Johnny Lawrence would ever be able to defeat the "Teacher" John Kreese. ... John Kreese is the pioneering founder of Cobra Kai karate. And John Kreese was the repeated military champion of karate.
Martin Kove played John Kreese so well that he stood out from the crowd and became the star of the show. The way we heard people over the years say, "Sweep the Leg" was awesome. And the way we heard people say, "Strike First, Strike Hard, No Mercy!" was also amazing. Everybody knew it was Sensei John Kreese who was being quoted. Now, there is an entire TV series based on Cobra Kai - the martial art and way of life that was created by John Kreese.
This was similar to the way the TV show called Dallas was not originally supposed to focus on J.R. Ewing, but Larry Hagman played J.R. Ewing so well that he stood out from the crowed and became the start of the show.
John Kreese was my favorite character. I loved Season 1 and 2, because they showed Cobra Kai represented what we all wanted all along - a TV series where it was okay for the bad guys we loved to win. I truly hoped John Kreese would be invincible in the Cobra Kai TV series the way Mr. Myagi was in the Karate Kid movies. Sadly, that did not happen.
Unfortunately, Season 3 here shows the new Producers over at politically-correct Netflix insist the good guys win, as usual. Legendary karate instructor John Kreese has now been defeated by his student, Johnny Lawrence. And John Kreese has now been defeated by Daniel LaRusso - who used techniques from someone who should have been his enemy. This means John Kreese is weaker than Johnny Lawrence, weaker than Chozen, and weaker than Daniel LaRusso.
I am sure the politically correct writers and producers over at Netflix will soon have it so Daniel LaRusso welcomes transexuals at his dojo. And I'm sure some of those transexuals will will beat up on John Kreese for teasing them, because he is ole' fashioned and believes you should remain a male or female when you are born a male or female.
Well, I better stop writing before the owners of facebook, Twitter, Microsoft, Apple, Google, and other tech giants say I'm inciting riots somewhere in the world.
I'm not even bothering subscribing to Cobra Kai Season 3.
Sadly... Cobra Kai has officially "Died."
@Flashheart I know what I'm talking about. I've watched all the behind-the-scenes interviews, too. The "bad guy" you are referring to is Johnny Lawrence. The only problem is, "Johnny Lawrence" is no longer a "bad guy."
And Johnny Lawrence was never truly "evil" like John Kreese, Terry Silver, Emperor Palpatine, or people like that. Johnny Lawrence is just another Annakin Skywalker who can't make his mind which side he is on.
I always rolled my eyes when seeing the "magical moment" of Return of the Jedi when Annakin is with Yoda and Obi-wan Kenobi as Luke is looking at them at the end of the movie.
It must be comforting for all the parents of the Jedi children Annakin murdered in Revenge of the Sith to know that Annakin has been eternally saved like that.
I'm very disappointed the way this was done in Cobra Kai Season 3.
This scene should have been handled in a way where the son of Johnny Lawrence saw John Kreese beat up on Johnny Lawrence. This would have shown Johnny Lawrence still had plenty left to learn from the creator of Cobra Kai karate - just as Daniel LaRusso has plenty left to learn from Myagi-Do karate. ... But, that is NOT what happened.
What happened is Johnny Lawrence beat up on John Kreese. ... IF... I repeat IF the audience was aware of the fact that Kreese was "allowing" Johnny Lawrence to win, just because the fight was taking place in front of the son of Johnny Lawrence, and it was necessary to brainwash the boy, that would be another story. T
his was a trick of deception used by Emperor Palpatine when he easily killed multiple Jedi's in Revenge of the Sith, and then "allowed" Mace Windu to defeat him in front of Annakin Skywalker in order to deceive Annakin and gain Annakin as a student.
But, the writers of Cobra Kai really dropped the ball on this. The Cobra Kai writers made it so John Kreese lost to Johnny Lawrence in a fair fight, and then lost to Daniel LaRusso in a fair fight. That was DUMB!
John Kreese should have said something to Daniel such as, "You can't rely on that Defense Only stuff forever." Daniel should have replied by saying, "I don't need to!" in reference to the new techniques taught to him by Chozen.
However, rather than making Kreese look weak and stupid, the writers should have made Kreese say, "I've been using those offensive moves a lot longer than you have!" And then we would have seen Kreese use those same techniques on Daniel.
But, Cobra Kai is now a show were the good guys win and Kreese loses. ... Very disappointing.
I mean Johnny DID knock down kreese. Only reason why kreese came close to killing Johnny is because Johnny let his guard down because of Robby. Bear in mind that a weakened kreese nearly beat Daniel, he would have if he didn’t learn that technique from chozen.
He worried that his friend was giving him a handout. That doesn't mean they had a falling out. Maybe he took over Cobra Kai to prove he was still worth it and now Silver will invest
THERE WILL BE A CAMEO OF SOME SORT WITH SILVER BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW THE STUDIOS DEVELOP THEIR CONTRACTS AS WITH EVERY FILM OR TV SHOW EVERYONE WANTS A CUT OF THE ACTION ?
A while back the actor who played Terry Silver said that he was done with acting and wasn't interested in returning, can't find that article anymore though.
I've always wondered what happened to Kreese & Terry Silver's relationship after Karate Kid 3
I think in part 3 Silver mentions he owns the trademark for Cobra Kai.
Plot twist:Kreese and Terry Silver got married😱
If we think Johnny was upset about how he lost imagine how Mike feels after all these years. He lost to a meditation technique. Karate's bad boy lost to a kata.
Just_stuff _309 good theory
IT WOULD HAVE REALLY HURT SILVERS REPUTATION AND BUSINESS INTERESTS AS WELL, SO THEY WOULD HAVE STAYED APART FOR 30 YEARS WHICH MAKES SENSE, BUT REVENGE AND MONEY CAUSES PEOPLE TO DO THINGS THEY MUST DO !
MONEY NEVER SLEEPS AND REVENGE NEVER DIES ! , ACTUALLY THEY SHOULD CALL THE NEXT SEAN THAT ?
Kreese has proven, time and time again, that honor is a foreign concept to him. He doesn't have honor.
Exactly
Watch Season 3. He had
This is a solid theory i think.
Remember that time he left Rambo behind enemy lines? What a prick! Haha
Silver and Kreese have a common line/phrase:
In KKIII, Silver told Kreese over the phone that he's gonna teach Daniel pain and fear and the kicker is "he's gonna thank me for it!"
At the end of CK Season 2, Kreese coldly says "one day you'll thank me for this Johnny."
That's gotta be a hint of Silver's return!
At the end he somehow got money to take care of all the past due bills and make a contract with the landlord?
At the end of the season no signs are given that there are past due bills, if anything cobra kai has been earning lots of money. Kreese made a contract with the landlord while johnny while off with his dying friend. Kreese will now use Cobra kai money to pay bills, just as johnny had been doing.
@@xsteal But the landlord, as we've see, prides himself on being business savvy. A man living in a shelter would need a lot of collateral to take over the lease, specially, as you say if Johnny was making good money and paying his bills on time.
@@DoctorZisIN in season 2: Johnny doesn't have a lease, they have a handshake deal. The writers of the show specifically put that scenes in the show, to let us know how easily it was for kreese to steal cobra kai.
Season 1: the writers show us plenty of scenes oh Johnny's money problems. While in season 2: has no scene about money problems, instead we get the start of season 2 with brand new paint job to his car.
Also to show the finacial success cobra kai has become, in season 1 Johnny was able to pay back the stepdad all the money needed to start cobra kai, and that was before more students joined in the start of season 2.
I do agree with u that a man in a shelter would have a hardtime getting a lease, but that's in the real world. In the show the landlord just needs to see the money, and as kreese pointed out at the end of season 2, the landlord doesn't like Johnny. Also many others here on the comments section have suggested that Kreese wasn't actually homeless, but just part of his trick to get Johnny to accept him back.
@@xsteal That is possible. Kreese's sob story could be pure emotional manipulation, he is after all a master at inciting wars, and as a war man himself, that's where he thrives. But I still think someone else may be helping him out. We'll see.
Nice one 👍 tori's facial expressions /mannerisms even looks to an extent remind me so much of terry silva
This theory assumes Kreese really has been down on his luck, living in shelters all these years, and not instead that the conversation with Johnny wasn't all set up to manipulate him.
They mention silver when Jonny was trying to get his ban revolved so he could have cobra Kai participate in the all valley
As big as this show has been on nostalgia, there’s no way they won’t bring Silver back. Mike Barnes too.
Daniel, Johnny, and Chozen against Kreese, Silver, and Barnes.
In real life the actor who plays Silver races cars or has some kind of race car company and I heard he's extremely busy with that and isn't interested in acting anymore.If Kobra Kai is a huge hit again like Karate Kid was in the 80's I'm sure he can be talked in to coming back.I mean it's not a dud now but with it being on Netflix it could really be huge and take off like Walking Dead did when they put the first 3 seasons on there and when season 4 premiered on AMC the whole world was watching
Black Zodak he’s coming
@@masonwright7700 I think you're right
@@hennessyapplejuice8331 thats the guy that played Dutch, Chad McQueen..
This series made my depression disappear . I love you brainstorming about what Will happen Nice channal!
Living in shelters was a ruse to gain sympathy is my guess. A man like Kreese would know he was being followed by johnny. He moved in to the shelter recently just so Johnny would find out.
If he truly had been in shelters for 10 years, he would've been properly humbled and thankful, not conniving
Unless he genuinely is a sociopath like Amanda said. He wouldn't be able to change without proper therapy, which he would never seek.
The house that Silver lived in is the Frank Lloyd Wright "Ennis House" located at 2607 Glendower Ave
, Los Angeles, CA 90027.
Wake up and smell the coffee Mr. LaRusso.
NO DANIEL SON STOP SMOKING THAT BONSAI !
IT IS AFFECTING YOUR EGO !
BREATH IN ,SMOKE OUT !
LIGHT THE BONG !
If a man can't see he can't fight!
If a man can't breathe... He can't fight
Great job getting into the whole Silver/Kreese storyline!
I caught this when I heard it. I knew it was a seed to be possibly planted in the future if things panned out.
That's what I was thinking about Mike Barnes, since Mike was Johnny's boss in the first episode. Johnny would've thought Barnes was a bad ass and enjoyed working for him.
Terry Silver committed suicide after he found out Dimitri was his son.
yes sure
PSML 😂😂😂
Lmao
😭😭🤣🤣
what season and episode is that.
Do you think he doesn’t know when he’s being fallowed? He was playing with Johnny. After the first attempt of getting in with Johnny failed, silver came up with the idea of having him look like he’s in a bad place and needs help. It was just him breaking johnnys defenses while they take down Danny.
"Fix the collar! Make me look humble!" It takes a very special breed of man to have the kind of insight into the subtle nuances of fashion to be able to discern that a collar - not just a shirt but specifically the collar - can impart socioeconomic indicators. Silver's knowledge of the world clearly extends far beyond karate, toxic waste, inner peace, and fair play.
YES YOU ARE RIGHT BUT IT GOES FAR BEYOND A COLLAR SHIRT THERE ARE SUBTLE EXTRAS THAT SHOW AND TAKE A VERY KEEN EYE TO NOTICE.
Dude, ur from starwars theory. Now I’m subscribed to this channel
Terry Silver, Mike Barnes, and Alli all need to make an appearance for Season 3 of Cobra Kai.
I think it would be dope too if they decided to finally show Hilary Swank & Daniel Larusso on screen TOGETHER.
We got Ali for 2 episodes in season 3. It's all but official that Silver will be in season 4, and as for Mike Barnes and what role he'll have, we'll see.
I though I was the only one who noticed this, “he said my buddy offered me. Job and I turned it down because I thought of it as a hand out” and the photo on the wall.
Having Terry Silver and Stingray on screen together will make everyone laugh there ass off
nice avatar
When I first saw Robbie, I thought he was going to end up being Silver's son. Looks so much alike.
Good call!!!
He could be? Wife was a ho
Miguel possibly. His mom keeps saying his dad is a bad man
@TheJofrica
Miguel's actor already said that wasn't true and he doesn't see a connection.
Didnt Krese say something about having stocks in some "company" that he "sold/lost"....I bet that was Dynatox - Terry silvers company!!!
When are “Ali’s kids going to come into the picture I wonder? Hmmmm.
Waiting for season 3 sucks but I know it will be worth the wait
What if Miguel’s Dad is Terry Silver? 👀 S:1 EP:8 Miguel’s mom mentioned how she learned the Truth about his Dads “Job”
She escaped Ecuador because of that. Why would she go to his dad’s native country if she is escaping. Also he doesn’t strike as the person that would date 3rd world country people unless they are prostitutes.
Silver traveled the world and made partners all over in the business of The Disposal of Nuclear Waste. Ecuador would be a perfect fit for that, & it is very unclear if they mentioned in the series of him and prostitutes? Then again that is why it is a “theory”
@@rexbanner8999 exactly. He sees these countries as lesser and maybe their its people so why would he date someone from there? And I doubt they mentioned prostitutes but I just mentioned it as something his character type would usually go for. If he were to marry or have kids he’d choose someone that will help him get more. Other than that I don’t see why would he want to give his fortune to someone else that can take it over.
I've heard this theory. One coincidence too far though for my liking tbh. I do like the idea that Miguels real father will turn up and Johnny will have to battle for influence, we see this theme touched on in Miguels mother not liking his "angry side" which probably reminded her of his father and the prospect Miguel could be manipulated into being some kind of cartel thug or something
Oh no what if tori is Terry silver daughter
Had no idea you made this channel!?!?! Epic!
Or Kreese could have just been lying in his reaction to play Johnny.
Love you cobra kai theory!
love you too man
We may have missed the “telegraphing” connection. Kreese in KK 3 to Terry sparing with jobbers “You’re telegraphing the wheel kick.”
Miguel when first sparing with Tory: “Telegraphing”.
It’s too easy to miss, especially since “Tory with a Y” comes right after it. Maybe it’s a coincidence... but in my opinion, it’s a also a real hint at the Terry/ Tory connection as opposed to the more obvious fan service that immediately follows...
It’s also something to consider, in my humble opinion... :)
Okay, I’ll shut up now! Lol ...
Tory is Silver’s daughter?
OH Miguel is Silver’s son?! His mom always talks about his dad like he’s a bad person
@@TheJofrica I think it’s foreshadowing a connection between Tory and Terry. I don’t think Terry is her father.
As far as Terry being Miguel’s dad, no... too many bad men out there. Interestingly, your logic could be used to point to a Miguel/ Kreese connection.
But the Tory Terry connection seems more logical, and less soap opera like.
You know, when Hawk tries to cheer Miguel up about Sam, he compares Miguel to Drake. Miguel responds by saying “I’m not sure I wanna be Drake.”
Aisha responds:”Don’t worry, you’re not.”
Instinctively, I felt that Miguel would get horribly injured, but not permanently disabled.
I think the writers were pointing to Degrassi: The Next Generation’s episode “Time Stands Still part 2” in which Drake’s character gets shot and permanently loses use of his legs.
Aisha’s comment assured me that Miguel would not be permanently disabled...
A coincidence or deliberate foreshadowing?
The writers are brilliant at foreshadowing..
That is undeniable... So we shall see...
@@quietlightning4063 I really think it could be Miguel's father. There would be no logical connection between Tory and Terry, that would just be all random. Unless, how she said, she "took a few kickboxing classes", meaning she trained with Terry maybe. What would the connection with Terry and Tory be? Do you mean she will become his student maybe? I could see that. But they have been dropping hints about Miguel's dad and him being associated with bad people throughout the seasons.
Also the telegraphing point is great, but as a strict analogy that would mean Miguel is Kreese and Tory is Silver (based on who said the telegraphing point)?
@@quietlightning4063 Also the Drake and Degrassi idea is fascinating too. These are all great ideas, thanks for sharing!
Johnny also acknowledged he had no knowledge of who Terry Silver was when he was talking to the All Valley Committee. Mr. Miyagi's "Wwwwwaaaaaahhhhh" when he was mocking Silver was hilarious. If you look at the guy playing Terry Silver he's actually trying his ass off to not laugh during that scene. Lol
Terry Silver always seemed like a dollar store steven seagal to me
Yet much more entertaining, and had more charisma.
September 2020 crew. I just found and binged CobraKai. Glad it exists!! Well written.
Please tell me you watched the old karate kid
@@lukeboyd5654 Quiet!!!!
We already can't believe anything Kreese says. But the way he got into Johnny's head is exactly what Terry did to Daniel in part three. Seems to me that Kreese and Terry are at it again with the mind tricks, but this time..Kreese didn't need Terry to setup Johnny..Kreese did that himself as he was closer to Johnny than Terry was. This has all the earmarks of a Silver and Kreese play on Johhny and getting back the dojo
When he talked about the job, i was thinking he committed crimes and shit for some money, like something illegal
Guys I'm just trying to take a dip in my hot tub, stop talking about me.
Dude I mean Sir.Covid has killed my pockets and I could use some big bucks. Tell you what? I know a place where we could dump toxic waste,Governor Newsome backyard.
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I bet Kreese's homelessness was all a charade. He and Silver have been in on the scam to take over Cobra Kai since Johnny brought it back. Season 3 allows Daniel to reconcile with Chozen which encourages him to consider mending things with Johnny. Together Daniel and Johnny take on Kreese and Silver. Barnes could end up as an ace in the sleeve for Kreese and Silver.
Vincent Solis that’s exactly the way I think it will happen
PERHAPS DANIEL AND JOHNNY WILL MEND THEIR WAYS AND FIGHT KREESE AND SILVER ?
When you think about it, Silver/Barnes/Kreese are why Daniel was determined to put Cobra Kai out of business. However, Daniel doesn’t realize that Johnny has absolutely no idea about what they did to him because by the time the scheme in KK3 occurred, Johnny and his friends had long since quit the dojo. Either way, it is imperative that Johnny be informed about them by Daniel, before he risks being manipulated by them the way Daniel was.
I've never been soooo hyped for a Show on Netflix except Cobra Kai. I love it!
You do realize that this channel could possibly be literally writing the scripts for season three or four... But I like that!
HEY I LIKE THAT
Yep totally missed the Terry silver hint in season 2 can't wait for season 3 love cobra Kai it's become one of my favorite shows watched both seasons on Netflix it's great such an awesome show
Terry Silver’s “Mansion” is the “Ennis House” in the hills of Los Feliz, I’ve been past there. It’s one of those “Frank Lloyd Wright” houses, beautiful to look at but not comfortable/functional in which to live.
Silver is mentioned during the hearing about reinstating cobra kai into the tournament
Imdb said "Thomas Ian Griffith declined an offer to reprise his character, Terry Silver, since he has retired from acting."
Dude hasn't been in anything since 2007.
Sean Kanan (Barnes) has said he'd like to come back though.
UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS HOLLYWOOD IT IS NOT EXACTLY THE WORD RETIRED IT MEANS NOT ENOUGH $$$$$$ IS INVOLVED , WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE HIM BACK BUT THAT IS THE POLITICS OF FILM
They could hire an older lookalike actor to perform the character.
I belive Ralph says in an interview that Cobra Kai is about everybody ,not just about one character, Its a universe combination of everyone. Thats cool
Maybe Hilary Swank will show up and give Terry Silver the People's Elbow
I put off watching this show for a while as I thought it would be more like a parody as apposed to a real show telling a story and I must say I’ve been pleasantly surprised,I’ve really enjoyed it and love all the 80s music and flashbacks. Could genuinely go on for another few seasons telling the stories.
I can’t believe I missed this hint! Even though I did rewatch both seasons 1 & 2 on Netflix recently. Lol
Crazy how Terry Silver was 10 years old while fighting in Nam. No wonder Kreese had to keep saving his ass
I also caught when Johnny gets fired for putting the TV the wrong way in he says "come on mike " I said she was bitching at me" maybe Mike barnes?
I mean there's probably a mike in every tv series but good theory. I want that trailer
Just binge watched Seasons 1 & 2 yesterday and realized that I have never seen Karate Kid 3. I came to read comments about Season 3 release date so I cant believe we have to wait for another year for it.
u said how kreese has glimpse of being nice but he did this just to take cobra kai back from johnny
I'm just watching all these theories and ideas untill season 3 loving the content man
cant wait for season 3!!
Terry Silver should be Cobra Kai’s commander. They could call him Cobra Commander.
I can’t help but wonder who gets Kreese those Cuban cigars... Seriously, the homeless shelter was a ruse.. Kreese just up and left because he was making a good enough income to afford a new crib? No... Silver was in on everything!
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I think next season silver and krees are both gonna be together again trying to get cobra Kai back to how it used to be and Johnny and the larusso’s will become one and fight against krees and silver
If I could give that 10 thumbs up I would.
I agree and have said the same thing and really really want johnny and daniel to b friends, and they have come soooo close several times and something always interferes. If daniel would also stop being such an ass and so negative and stop and realize all johnny has been thru and that hes truely trying.
And but yes always felt they would team up against kreese never really thought about silver but hey
BASED ON THE KK TRILOGY DANIEL NEEDED MIAGI TO RETRAIN HIM EACH TIME EVEN TO USE THE TOILET, SO I JUST CAN'T SEE IT ?
Just a _FUN FACT_
*Terry* *Silver* is in reality *4* *months* *younger* than *Daniel* *Larusso*
"Kreese Drops BIG Terry Silver HINT in Season 2 and We All Missed it" - what a bait title, no one missed it. Kreese talking in that episode about his "old war buddy" who offered him a job after Cobra Kai collapsed was a very conspicuous reference to Silver. It couldn't have been more obvious if he'd been mentioned by name. Probably nothing happened between them after that; knowing the characters as we do, the most obvious explanation is Kreese was simply too proud to ask Silver for help. He even says he rejected the job because it felt like charity. Kreese is not a man who wants to be pitied.
I am always impressed how much you can do with such a flat story like karate kid :P
My theories for season 3: Roby will get juvy bail from Terry Silver and John Kreese due to Terry's connections and join cobra kai. He will train with/against Hawk in the cobra kai dojo but will be train as the new Mike Barnes, full of aggression with no emotional compass with true disdain for Roby because of Miguel. Hawk though will be reluctant considering how far they push him into becoming a bully causing many others to leave the dojo. Meanwhile Daniel will have a fallout similar to Johnny at the beginning of the series which will bring them together. How so: Terry Silver will buy out multiple car dealerships in the area aka doing business with Tom Cole and force Daniel out of business putting a bigger rift between Daniel and his wife. Terry will promote Daniels son and train/abuse him like he did his father in the earlier movies through the neglect of Daniel's attention for his son. When Daniel gets back from training in Okinawa he will find his wife has been meeting/dating and signed the rights to the dealership to Silver not knowing the history. That's when Daniel meets Ali again upon seeing the divorce papers from his wife. Johnny will be back to day jobs and trying to get his son back in his life. He finds out who Mike Barnes is and loses a fight trying to get Roby out of Cobra Kai knowing he is being taken down a wrong path by Kreese. This leads Johnny back to Miguel who will get visits from both Sam and Tori but ultimately go back to Tori leaving Sam feeling like Miguel did in the beginning of Season 2. In the end Miguel will have a Rocky like come back from his injury. And since Johnny lost it all, Daniel lost it all and Miguel trains with them both, including Ali who helps with recovery as a doctor, he makes it to the Season 3 All Valley tournament against Cobra Kai and fights along side his girlfriend Tori, Sam and others in the new Iron Eagle Dojo. But surprisingly Terry Silver finally wins and expands the cobra kai dojo with Hawk at the end of Season 3. Now they can finally expand Cobra Kai to the Valley even though Roby goes back to his father and Johnny ends up with Carmen.
Tell me if any of this sounds plausable?!?
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@@henryparsadanian1319 Thanks! I can definitely see some of that happening and hope they take that dark path with Silver bring Daniel to Johhny's level in season 1
holy shit that sounds incredible!!! i really want Johnny and Carmen to get back together, she brought out the best in him
@@millieellis6749 Same here. She fits what Johnny needs though he will be tempted to go back to Ali
You’re leaving out the Okinawa stuff. There’s clips of Okinawa in the teaser and what looks like Chozin training Daniel. Let’s not forget, Miyagi’s dad taught Sato, and Sato taught Chozin, so technically Sato and Chozin are of the Miyago-Dō lineage. So that must be factored in somewhere. I predict Chozin vs. Silver
i had school on the day u realeased this and my mind was different
Kreese and Silver never came out on top, even in their prime. Now that they’re old men, what makes anyone think they could possibly do it now?
Kreese saying that he never got the chance to end Miyagi and he fought him twice
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S1E6 in the flashback with Johnny you can see Terry Silver and a Girl on his left training on the Dojo
Correct me if l am wrong Vulcan but during season 1 of Cobra Kai when Johnny goes to get permission to enter the Dojo into the All Valley tournament Terry Silver was mentioned and Johnny had no idea who Terry Silver was.
@@tobyg7207 Not sure on what you're referencing. But its possible Terry left cobra kai before Johnny joined because it just showed him peak thru the window i dont think they've ever specified exactly when jonny joined. So I believe its possible it was him.
@@tobyg7207 That absolutely happened.....I found it very funny.
They asked him the name like it was check mate assuming he was affiliated yet he was oblivious to the name entirely.
2:24 I always knew it was Terry Silver that Kreese was talking about. Me and my bro had that down for the longest
Wait I just noticed Daniel striked first at johnnys house in the last episode of season 2
Daniel’s whole thing this entire time has been constantly messing things up. That’s like his thing, and usually Miyagi is there to fix it. Now it’s his wife fixing all his messes
Hopefully new brawls at bowling alley or at the same school if Terry Silver gets to be the master at gym class training students for the next karate tournament.
Silver went under cover to look poor and gain trust. He gets what he wanted.
Kreese possibly goes under cover to look poor and gain trust? He gets what he wanted.
I'm thinking that exact same thing
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*crazy Silver in sauna laugh with clenched fists* I LIKE THAT JOHNNY!!
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OMG that is such a good point
Mad respect, brother. I thought I was the only one thinking about that stuff.. HOWEVER
Why does it seem like you kinda know what you're talking about but then you obviously leave out so many things making it seem like you never even watched karate kid 3 ... I think i need to watch it again and brush yourself up. Yet, you are spot on overall
I've got a kinda Theory. What if Kreese was playing the "broken man" to manipulate (remember that Kreese, was a highly trained expert on subversive tactics in the war) Sensei Johnny Lawrence, by finding a way to undermine Johnny Lawrence and get an "old school", Cobra Kai's Sensei, by manipulating Johnny's students, by Kreese, to get control of Cobra Kai. Mike Barnes and Terry Silver back as well, back involved with Cobra Kai. All want revenge to make, Daniel and Mr. Miyagi for all the defeats. I further believe, that in order for that to happen, they need multiple steps to do this;
1) Get Johnny Lawrence out of Cobra Kai. (Make or break Johnny)
2) Reclaim it for an "Kreese version of Cobra Kai" and,
3) Bring in Mike Barnes, as Kreese's assistant Sensei.
4) Deep pockets, financially backed up by Terry Silver.
5) Then go after Miyagi-Do dojo, the students, and Daniel!
My Theory is based upon vengeance and manipulation. Possibility that Kreese is trying to make or break Johnny Lawrence to go after Miyagi-Do or not.
I'd appreciate it if anyone thinks that my theory is some what plausible or not, if it's to much of a stretch? I'd love to hear what you have to say!
Good i think too he play the brooken man. He manipluated all. He plan that Hawk destroy Dannys Dojo that Danny give the fault Johny! He also manipulate the students its Johnys Fault Miguel fell. It was not Johnys Fault but Kresse make the students believe him.
Bit too deep for this show....
KREESE AND SILVER ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED , I CAN PROMISE THAT !
Johny has the worst lack.
He give Kreese a second chance:
- boom lose dojo.
He help Robby:
- Robby kicked Miguel to hospital. Okay it was a accident but he dont stop Miguel stop.
-Danny kicked him for helping his daughter...
@@patrickfabsich2692 you bring up a good point. Yes Johnny Lawrence has terrible luck. Before Daniel kicked in his apartment door, Johnny was going to tell Daniel about Sam and Robbie coming stay at his place overnight because of what happened at the party. Daniel didn't Johnny a chance to
tell him what happened.
Also, I noticed that not all Cobra Kai students were with Kreese, when Johnny found them with Keese. I noticed that because of the students who followed Kreese, was only part of the students, some, that I personally think didn't fully realize what Kreese was doing, so I am thinking that there will be a possible divide come out in the Cobra Kai Dojo. I'm thinking that in the later part of season 3, maybe even in season 4. Why I think that might happen I've seen subtle hints at that in the later parts of season 2. Like at the start of the school year fight, some of the Cobra Kai members actually tried to stop the fight, like some of the Miyagi-Do students as well. Kreese might be pushing a possible divide with Cobra Kai Dojo with manipulating certain students by letting other students think everything is okay and it is. (In my opinion, Kreese has a deeper goal, to benefit himself, by taking over Cobra Kai Dojo, he will try to break Johnny, by breaking Cobra Kai, that still have a certain loyalty to Johnny and break Johnny by breaking what he did pre Kreese). If we pay attention to seasons one and two, Johnny was at his best when Cobra Kai Dojo reopened because it gave him a sense of balance in his life. Kreese will possibly use a division in the Cobra Kai Dojo students.
Yes I know, these are just me kinda looking at it in a unique direction.
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After Krese took Johnny’s business at the end of season two I don’t have any sympathy for him. Johnny forgave him for all that shit he did and he was planning and skimming to throw him under the bus. How is Johnny supposed to live. I really hope he and Danny become the best of friends and work together.
i hope danny and johnny both work in miyagi dojo if that’s not a bad idea😳
I love the idea of Johnny trying to sell cars ...
Dirgni Flesuoh I know, right. I think he’ll get it though.
Excellent series bringing memories, please bring season 3 asap!!
I wonder if silver could be Miguel's dad since his mom said he was a bad man in season 1
this is the first new far out there theory that I've heard, that sounds like a possibility and would be a great twist, a shocker forsure
ANORLD SHAWZEN EGG AND BURGER WoZ THE MAIDS SONS FATHER ?
The only reason this theory wouldn’t work is she mentioned she left Ecuador and came to America because her man was a bad man. Unless he moved to Ecuador but it doesn’t seem likely.
@@christheevangelist it would be cool to see silver back
@@christheevangelist He is a man of money and was doing shading toxic dumping stuff perhaps he went on the run
Just finished Cobra Kai season 2 ahhh season 3 needs to come quick! Lol
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Wow this is a great insight. Because I haven’t watched karate kid three since it came out now I’m gonna have to go and watch it. I didn’t watch it recently because I didn’t think it had any kind of Tyann to this cobra Kai series