Tweaking a Line 6 Spider amp to work with guitar pedals
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2017
- In this video I take a totally different departure... what happens when you use high end (or as some call.. "Boutique") pedals with an inexpensive Line 6 Spider 30 amp? Many times, not very good results. I'll show you how I set up the Line 6 to get a decent clean tone for pedals and also a trick at the end for connecting it to an external cabinet.
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The trick is obviously to go to the insane channel and turn all knobs to 10. I'm disappointed that you didn't mention this.
Man you discovered my trick
God damn it
Makes a really good vibrator when you blast them all...
@Brandon Ivey This guy gets it.
Thank you, I knew I was doing it wrong, but your guidance was perfect.👍🏼
What ia that trick for?
I guess what I got from this video is 1: use your ears and not your eyes to adjust the settings. 2: Don't trust the presets. 3: Don't judge any amp based on what other people say ( watch Johan Segeborn's videos) 4: a real speaker can make an amp sound better than you thought it capable of. I really like these videos- thanks Brian!
+skotrock thanks! I'm a big fan of Johan's channel too!
It has a cel Celestin speaker
thanks again brian i always enjoy your presentations, the way you approach the simple truth, that you can take what is at hand, and make the most of it.
It is impressive how the sound of cheap combos is so much better by simply running their power amp into an external cab!
Good point... EVM Cabinet
Does that mean the flaw is mostly in the speaker???
What if one just replace its speaker to let's say a V30 leaving the rest unchanged... how would it sounds?
@@blizzbee It still wont be as great as a tube amp, but it will help with the fizz. Don't know if anyone hs tried that... But I can imagine these sounds will get miles away from where are they now.
@@blizzbee just did this with mine. I took the speaker out of my peavey rage 158z which is a blue marvel, and it sounds so much better.
@@cardideoz It depends on how long your speaker cable is.
Thank you so much for making this video because I had all but given up on my line 6 amp
Great work as always
I hooked an old HiFi speaker up to one of those little Orange battery amps when I was early in my guitar journey. It was surprising how good it sounded (Obviously nothing amazing but certainly decent at home), and the nice thing about those amps is they clean up with the guitar volume knob. I keep meaning to build a cabinet for that little amp and put a proper speaker on it.
I love my line 6 equipment gig with it every night, well used to before Corona left me unemployed
Sorry to hear that mate 😢 hope the lockdown is lifted soon abd everyone goes back to normal 👍
Good luck man!
God that pedal sounds killer. It's so good that even with that cheaper amp it still sounds outstanding. Very very cool...
Man,I cannot be thankfull enought......I own this model amp and i'm struggling to make it sound louder actually....rehearsing or live,I was wondering few weeks ago,"how can i make it sound louder?" And that was my answer...Huge thanks,from Brazil!
Your face when you played through the non-altered sounds were priceless
Thank you so much for sharing this!! I've been trying to figure this out for about a year! YOU ARE THE BEST! So happy I can use my David Gilmour pedal board now!
This was my first guitar amp. I had always been a bass player, and had semi-pro bass equipment as I was in several bands. I had a 220w Crate head going into a Crate 4x10". After I bought my first Telecaster I knew I needed an amp, but was on a budget.
I knew the Spider series had a lot of features so I got the 100w or 120w combo used and then splurged on the big Line-6 "controller" pedal.
Some people hate on this, but it's a pretty capable system if you tune it.
It doesn't quite have the sound I want though.
I currently still use it though, and I have an MXR dist pedal and a BOSS PS-6( Pretty weird pedal that has 1 & 3 voice chorus in minor/major, a detuned chorus, and a adjustable WIDE pitch shifter with rise/fall) You really do need to tweak it just right to use those pedals, but it can be done. I'd advise you learn how to save a preset just for that so you can save the time.
Great vid. I use a pod-xt for practice and demo/YT video recording because my son is autistic and has a savage noise aversion problem. This creates a major problem for me and my DSL100 with a 4x12. SO, I use my O/D pedal into a carefully tweaked VOX based model and it sounds BRILLIANT! Gives me that sound/response im looking for to practice without annoying the bejesus out of my son. Trial and error is one thing but restraint with the digital models is key to getting a pedal/s to work with it without it sounding shit.
@A D maybe you would want to watch that ?
Thanks! My local studio uses this amp since ancient times, and I could never get any good clean/crunch tone besides metal. I recently got my first overdrive pedal (LT Dual) and tested it there. Then, Line6 dissapointed me.
Now I have an idea, thanks. I will try these tips next week and see if I can dial a nice tone.
Just got my new spider v . Still figuring out the effects but I know I like it . The barracuda tone is just beautiful
You are a master of the Internet
Someone call Glen Fricker!
Gautham Thyagarajan and teach him how to mix.
Ah man, you beat me to this comment!
Noeffnwaypal Well... I did misspell Glenn
Well in that case we can make it up to him by seeing how many people can give a shout out: "Fuck you Glen!" If his feelings are hurt, we'll just pool our money together and send him a Line 6 to destroy! LOL
haha! :D I love Glenn's channel :)
Thanks for the post. I have a Spiderjam and I got the same bad results with a Zoom G9 lol. Line 6 only likes Line 6 plugged into it. What I did to connect speakers I have a Crate Powerblock and I plugged the RCA out of the Spiderjam into into the RCA in the back of the Crate. The only problem is you can't turn down the Powerblock but it's a good club volume.
Nice! Great video!
Devin Townsend also uses this amp in his practise rig, so it can't be as bad as everyone says.
The Amp Itself Is Great For Beginners It's Not An Amp You'd Wanna Keep Using Past Your First 8 Months Or Year Of Playing
It isn't, I own one and it's great for a practice amp, I'm happy for everybody to continue shitting on it though, it keeps the price down on what is actually a pretty decent amp. I do not jump on bandwagons, some of us actually have the ability to think for themselves.
Your just jealous of Devon! Having met Mr Townsend I can say he's a kind down to earth guy who ROCKS very well!
Mines great and sucks. It can't save anything. So I have to create each one every time I turn the amp on.
@@numbersabcdefg that's a shame... Is it possible to do a hard reset on it??..
I recently plugged a Boss DS-1 pedal into my spider after playing on insane setting for about 5 months. And it sounded like absolute crap. Watched this video and managed to get a better sound. Thanks man!
Nekroptosis i promise it sounded better than the trash insane setting
@@gavinchambliss8576 dude I now have a Blackstar ID core 100watt with a range of pedals now and I feel life is much better...
Nekroptosis oof, my friend has one, it’s super fun to jam on. I’m a fan of my Randall Satan personally, but that’s definitely not a bad choice in any regard
@@gavinchambliss8576 I would love a Randall Satan like Ola has but I live in New Zealand so trying to get one here is a nightmare. Plus pricey
@@gavinchambliss8576 and for what it's worth I have a MXR DD-11 Dime Time pedal for the lack of having a Satan. Haha
Very informative , Thanks. ( btw if no one else has pointed this out , but that's not a potentiometer )
I think the spiders sound great if you hook them up to a real cab and just set them up just right.
My bandmate used a Spider 3 head before buying a Helix and I couldn't complain about the Spider's tone.
A very intelligent dialling in of the settings shows that a goodish sound can be achieved and only the lazy will be disappointed. A huge difference can be had with a different speaker cab with some quality speaker units. In the end you get what you pay for but please remember this is a practice amp.
great video, i have the sp4 150 2x12.Ive started getting alot more useable tones with abtsract eq settings.did the speaker cab have good results.if you get a chance try some tones with a eq pedal.
In general what is the best approach on amp's EQ when you connect a distortion pedal like Dracarys? Would it be better to have all the amp's EQ at 12 o'clock and then adjust the dracarys' EQ for i.e. a metal scooped sound or should you set the amp's EQ as it should be and then stuck dracarys on top of it. My amp is a blackstar ht 5 metal, tube amp. Thanks
The pain on your face when you were going through initial sounds was real
I always appreciate when someone approaches the "make the cheap stuff sound better" topic. I have never had a Line 6, but have played them and prefer the Peavey Vypyr line of amps which (until the release of the Pro) are also in the same price range. They seem to take pedals pretty well through the front. I started putting effects loops in those amps with pretty good tonal success. Do you think the cheaper Line 6 stuff would do well with an effects loop added in?
jfury67 liked Spider over vypyr. Bought a Blackstar id 150 (not core series, didnt like the 2x10 id core i had). The id 100/150 has the 6l6, el34 etc settings. It has a white/black tweed face. Try it out, especially with a Keeley compressor which I think will make any of those amps sound better 👍
My line 6 spider v mkii takes my looper pedal in the front of the amp very well. Unlike my boss katana mk2 50w which doesn't take the looper pedal unless ur on the clean channel... which would be fine of ur using nothing but pedals but most of the people who get these amps because they don't have a ton of pedals.
BW, I appreciate what you did here to clean that amp's tone.
Up next? Squier SP-10 practice amp?
You can also bypass the preamps and effects by running pedals or other modelers into the mp3/cd input, it works the same as the return side of an fx loop. There's no send, but so what.
Oh! I'll try that. I dislike every sound line 6 has built into the spider - shit amp sounds plus truly shitty effects - its got it all!
@@wmperry2790 the only one I ever use is tape echo always below 50 percent set to like a reggae triplet, because it kind of works, and even lower as DIY reverb, but yeah the last month ive definitely realized how bad they are, I always kind of knew.
What are those channels for? I have a different model. Everything seems the same other the size and the channels
I love my spider 2. Twang channel makes any OD have vast range. The gain Boost brings out more. The hidden Uni-Vibe, ( last stage of phaser), is gold.
What is the gain Boost?
@@51MontyPython holding the MODE button, and turning Gain UP. Works each channel.
@@jobckts682 Where is the mode button? I'm not seeing one on mine.
@@51MontyPython channel select. (My bad). Turn Gain Up. Even the clean Boosts.
As always Brian, thanks for sharing your expertise. I too have a Spider 75w(Traded the 120w for a Jackson guitar for trying something different, starting to collect stuff as it was 1st amp to compete/rock with a band that i joined that was quickly purchased at a pawn shop). Knew something may not have been quite right when we played our first gig and as we were offloading the follow up band member scoffed/question my Line 6 amp worthy of being on stage and at the time I knew no better. Anyways picked up another 75w as practice and re-did some stability/cosmetics things to it like screws/bolts missing and have a few questions for you. Do you not use any of the Pre-set tones or bother with any or are there any that you gravitate towards that work better with pedals without pre-coloring sound too much? I'm struggling. I don't own a speaker cab but are there any speakers that you think may work better with the Line 6;?? I did just pick up a Randall Pyramid amp that may not even work, but could be used as a cab in the future as there is room for a 12" if I were to re-purpose This is ALL pedal/guitar mods etc very new to me but am excited to be learning this at 50 years old. Thanks for your time??
+43SLOWJOH no, I don't use any of the presets, I always create my own. For speakers, I would recommend Celestion or WGS
Wampler Pedals Thanks for info. Brian!! Inspired. Have you ever tried bi-color LEDs on a switch in the clipping section for subtle variance? Or are tones/voltages just to similar to bother? Thanks!
Just bought one,ya just gotta open it up sounds great,99 bucks in pawn shop I'm happy
"I think it sounds pretty good for the price." *runs from angry mob* I've only played one once in a guitar store, but I had fun! Normally I run through a cab sim to FOH live, and when I do need an amp onstage for monitoring I run a parallel out to a little Roland Cube. I've also played a Blues Deluxe in rehearsals, and a Tophat Emplexador at a live show, and I didn't feel like any of these setups was better or worse, just different. Thanks for the info!
You said you use a cab sim. But what are you using for the actual amp, when live?
@@51MontyPython at the time of writing this, I had a sans-amp clone, so it was really an amp simulator and cab sim in one. Then I home-made a cab simulator (basically a band pass filter) and used it with amp-like overdrives as my main sound.
@@cyrusfontaine2598 You home-made a cab simulator? How do you do that? Band pass filter -- is that like an EQ?
@@51MontyPython it's like an EQ you can't change. It's made of a couple resistors and capacitors!
@@cyrusfontaine2598 Very interesting. Is it designed to emulate a specific model cab, or just the basic concept/sound of one?
After reading your comments i have a line 6 valve all Tube) Reinhold Bognor 40watt designed by Reinhold Bognor Those of you who know who he is will appreciate what i am saying he is a famed Amp designer, I am sure Brian does. It is a amp you have to tweek (adjust) the Eq to taste not plug &play getting a true Plexi sound direct from it is easy (if you like that sound,) infact its a pre set and perfect, if you want the tube screamer sound the one that Brian refers to its also there perfect EQ s the trick, so easy. No need for extra cabinets it got 12" celestian vintage speaker fitted Britains best. but if you just want a plexi sound go and buy a Marshall Plexi, loads for sale in England. Sorry Brian i dont mean to decry your pedal, but the US viewers are propably not aware of the line 6 valve Bognor be good for you to demo it with your non distorted pedals, as you usually use Fender." Good for me as i live to far away from a dealer to buy.
Keep on rockin"
I absolutely love my Line 6 spider amplifier 💯 watts of power and kick ass tone!!
I have a 120 watt and the tone sucks. What settings do you use the most? I mostly play acoustic now so clean or twang suggestions would be most helpful. My electric sounds good on it but not the acoustic lol.
@@ElijahBrisley You can play an acoustic through this amp?
51MontyPython yes if you have an electric acoustic, it’s just a regular acoustic guitar but with a built in jack for plugging into an amp.
@@ElijahBrisley I've always heard you need an acoustic amp for an acoustic, as an electric amp is not made for handling those frequencies.
51MontyPython you can do it but having an acoustic pedal would make it sound a lot better I bet.
Thank you. I've been screwing around with this same amp for over a year - and just like your first attempts in this session, no matter what pedal(s) I use, in or out to another amp, or straight in with no pedals - no matter what settings I've tried, no matter which guitar I've used - I've never managed to get anything but that shrill, tinny sound you obtained about a 1/4 the way through. I've gotten so disgusted (I've played for 40+ years, but mostly through tube amps, or tube D.I. pre's - this was my attempt to see what a 'digital' amp could do), I nearly kicked the piece of crap speaker in. I have a RAT, an American Woman, a (Seymor Duncan) Fender Classic twin-channel mil-spec tube preamp, and assorted pedals. I don't NEED this to work, but it bothers me when something has the potential, but I can't find it.
The secret, as you say, is in the EQ, and in turning the bass all the way up (or nearly so) - all of your tweaks together worked magic, and I'm looking forward later to trying them. I also have a POD 2.0, which is not nearly as bad (probably because I use my own speaker/cab to run it into, or use it with a Midi-Man mini-mixer (18 channel) as part of a D.I. chain), but still, the adjustments must be wide and sweeping, and then, when the tone evens out, very precise - not at all like the tube amps I am used to. You may have changed my mind - we'll see.
Wait a sec....couple of questions for ya...Are you saying that tube amps settings have much less tonal variance than this amp? And my main question: What exactly did you learn from this video that you did not already know or try out for yourself already? I own one of these amps (though it looks a little different for some reason (not sure why; if they're the same model they should all be consistent, right? anyways..)), and I was expecting this video to actually be informing, yet, I did not learn literally _anything_ that I didn't already know, with the exception of the ability to hook up an external cab, but as far as just using the amp by itself, there's nothing new here, which is why I'm perplexed at your comment. With someone with as much experience with pro audio gear that you seem to have, would think you'd have already figured out how to dial it in by now. Weird.
Hero!
When you connected the amp to the 2 x 12 cab, don't you have to worry about the ohms? cab ohms ? since the amp was designed to work with the speaker in the amp originally? I know nothing about these things, but a cool trick.
Yes you would connect it to a speaker cabinet with the same ohms
I have a line 6 spider 2, 150w amp. When I use the plexidrive it gives off a background sound like a siren. Any idea how to get rid of this?
This amp is recommended for Hard Rock/Metal, which this guy wasn't playing. But still, it's a living room practice amp.
I agree with this
You're spot on. I love the metal preset and I practice on my own and with the band with it but live, no. Also, you can't play country or blues well with this. It's rock or Hard rock.
What you are saying sounds bad sounds good to me.
He said, he don't like it!Not that it's Not good
He says sounds like poo !
Sounds like poo is not equal to sound bad 🤣🤣🤣
I thought so too. Everything he did to make it "better" just made it thicker and muddier
would u do this with roland cube 30x? it has the same reputation with pedals
that's great. ive been trying to get my sons line 6 to sound good with my pedalboard.. plugged it back into my laney lc for best results! more interestingly, I would love to plug my old laney lc15 into an external cab... the stock speaker is a bit lacklustre but I want to keep the amp spec original. no, I don't know why, but could I do it in the same way as the line 6? please say yes, it would save me time, money and countless youtube hours :-)
Finally!
Hi there! I've just bougth a boos rc-30 and I have a line 6 spider III is there a trick to use that pedal with the efects of the amp? Greetings from México
There is no fx send/return function in these amps; so, you need to put fx processor or pedalboard in front of your looper. For example, when I have to play with old spider jam I put my pedalboard that also includes a looper in aux and use the amp just as a monitor.
I remember when I got my first MARSHALL Tube amp after Line 6, I’ve been so surprised how great can by a sound of my guitar, and how it reacts on dynamic of my play. Line 6 is really not great in terms of tone reproduction, but still can be a good option for a beginner who not care about sound details though.
about that speaker...... if it's ok if i use the phone jack instead of go clipping alligator cable at the back??
I've been using a line 6 spider 2 with a Boss ME 70 for many years. It's not the best but it'll get the job done.
Okay, this is going to sound weir, I know its up to 2 years since you wrote that but, lets go... i recentrly bought one of this amps but i've been had terrible times trying to put my Efects Processor Unit, a Zoom G1xon with it. It Sounds too bright, Even if I cut off the treble. Any tips?
@@ivanlopes671 It's always a challenge to get good tones out of any equipment, even if you have expensive amps or pedals.
I have a Spider III 30w for about 10 years and I like it a lot. When I bought my Zoom G5 I had some trouble setting it up along with the Spider amp. But now I can get really good tones with both working together.
Try to use some eq on your Zoom to cut high frequencies. And disable all amp/cabinet simulators on Zoom, because Line6 amps are modelling amps, and work with their own amp simulations.
I hope you get best tones possible!
If (by some miracle) you could get a Marshall MG30 DFX play nice with distortion pedals that would be amazing
thank for the help
Are blackstar core amps OK with overdrive pedals? I plubbed a Greg Howe Lick Box into my Core 10 and it sounds pretty lame to my ears
The Green Metal channel is the best one on these amps.
It needs the treble up its not a presence control i thought it sounded like a blanket was over the speaker with the treble down so far. imo the fizz is from the cheap speaker its just an overly bright speaker to begin with.
I have that same amp and i use the boost function makes the dirty tones alot better imo.
The spider amps would of been WAY better if they continued in the direction they were going with the very first spider 112. Separate chorus, flange and tremolo when they combined the flange and chorus into one knob was where they screwed up. keeping the reverb separate was good giving the amp a total of 3 effects
Can anyone teach me how to set the country tone of Spider Jam Line 6? PS. They ask me to do it but I've been searching how and found nothing. Thanks!
Hi, I’ve recently bought an orange 15r amp. When I push the distortion button nothing happens. Gain is full up. Tried a new lead. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance
Best thing to do is contact orange support, they should be able to help
What does stock settings mean? I've found that many amps that guys think sound bad, they simply just have not adjusted them properly. And you have to remember that not all amps EQ's are equal. Meaning, some amps need more low end than you're used to dialing in while other amps need more mid and some need more treble taken out than what you are used to dialing in or out. I found that you really have to play around with an amps EQ to get the best sound out of said amp. There's not a cookie cutter setting for EQ on amps that so happen to have an EQ section.
marshall that's very true. I own the same amp in this video and i've messed around with it enough to where i know how to make it sound decent. If i had an EQ pedal and maybe a boost i really feel it would sound great.
It is already set up. There is 2different setting for clean you walk over to the amp and touch one nob green or red clean that is it . U do not adjust anymore
And say you want to sound like Angus Young. It has his settings in there already any guitar you plug into it will sound just like an sg with a marchell amp with his rig. You have to keep tome and play the notes clean
How come my line 6amps metal setting doesnt work button the only working button?? Like clear wont turn on just insane. Any help would be great. Thanks
Is English your first language?
I use a vintage 30 cabinet from Marshall and an ENGL fireball 100. I keep a Marshall mg100hdfx as a backup head. It's sound isn't awful, it's just nowhere near as awesome as the engl.
I know a guy that has a jcm900. His backup is a 150watt spyder. I've heard him use it for his set. It's a passable sound if you can tweak it. Of course the Marshall sounds better.
Brian, you are an optimistic individual & I thank you for making this video. The other guitarist in my band owns the "85" watt version of this monstrosity. I would send this to him if i thought there was the smallest chance he would take your advice, He won't. I hate Line 6 for encouraging cash strapped guitarists to sound like crap when making the mistake of using their sub-par products in a band setting.
I'm glad I didn't buy one of these, I bought a vox valvetronix 50 on the day I bought an amp from a pawn shop. But you did make the amp sound good. I don't know, people say bad shit about the vox valvetronix modeling amps too. When I buy another amp it won't be a modeling amp, just a straight tube amp. I'm no professional musician. It's just for home use so it's not a big deal if I don't have the best gear.
i prefere the second amp setting, the CLEAN, a pity that Wampler pedals are so expensive in Europe thanks to import duties. A 170 € pedal bought in America, i pay the postman 80€ in Belgium.
Holy $#t! Who is it that sets such outrageous tariffs?
You could just insert the line out from your "boutique" pedal into the aux input on the amp [using a connector that costs less than a dollar] which bypasses all the effects/drive.
There is no "line out" on an effects pedal ('line outs" are for line level signals, which have a specific meaning, but I think I know what you mean). But what is this aux input you speak of? I have this kind of amp, but I'm not sure what you're referring to. What's it designed for, anyway?
Spider 2 120w 210 was the best interation.
Pedals through the Buttah setting works wonders !!!###
I have a line six spider four. Funny because when I play it as opposed to a solid state or tube amp I can feel the difference. But if someone blindfolded me I seriously couldn’t tell. I think there’s something psychologically wrong in my head telling me a modeling amp is bad. But I got it because it’s fun and I don’t need a million medals. I dunno. Lol. Maybe one day I’ll just buy a separate Marshall amp just for kicks.
I run an original TS-9 Tube Screamer through a 2007 Line6 75W Spider. With some tweaking, it can crush walls. Not good for much else.
I'm actually pretty shocked. That sounded pretty good. Wow. I'm just shocked, most times I hear that amp it's terrible. While this isn't great, it's pretty good.
I bought that amp new a while back. I never tried using pedals with it. The thing sounded so bad to me that I gave it away.
I can get a sound from my Spider jam that sounds better then most tube amps.
I beleive you have absolutely no idea what you are doing with this amp. I have had a line 6 spider 3 for several years and love it. You are doing everything you can to make it look bad. First of all you keep playing with the settings knobs. You have them all screwed up. It seems to me you want it to look bad and it is a 30 watt with a mic. And a tube screemer. Read the book and you will find that everything you just did is wrong. U do not even know that when you turn all the settings down to 0 it will put it into a basic amp marchall or fender. Know your equipment before you dog on it.
How do you set all effects off?
What is "Drive" on this amp, is it the same as gain?
Yes
I've got a spider IV 150 watt head running into a Carvin 4X12 and a Randall with 2X12 and a 15. It can sound alright and I actually use it more than my tube amp. Mostly because I have to crank my peavey up to get a decent sound out of it and I don't always feel like being that loud and the spider is more versatile.
Hi! I use an 8" audio bass speaker at 8 oms. Every setting i use is 100% better. The 8" 4 ohm speaker makes more volume but ruins the sound. Far too shrill and fuzzy... Thanks!
is this the "woofer" speaker or a full range one? which one would you recommend to swap my line 6 custom speaker with?
This again seems to underscore the importance of speaker and cab selection even with an inexpensive amp. I wonder how much of the fizziness on the top end is due to that speaker? Also, it's impressive that they are able to sell enough of those low-quality amps without having better speaker options - it tells me there is a large market of gear buyers who are not 'tone chasers.'
a HUGE part of the guitar player market isn't into chasing tone.
That's the thing! The spider was never ment to be the best sounding amp! It is inspiring for beginners. Also because they want to sound like their heroes for less money. And of course just to have fun and being able to play a lot of different sounds/genres.
Speaker selection seems to be the thing lately. Most of these amps get sold to first timers and wowed by the options but the stock settings are horrible if you've played a while. I have one I got as a throw in on a guitar trade and worked on it to get a passable clean tone to push pedals through for practice. Took a while. So I appreciate what BW did here, perfect idea. Perhaps BW will roll out a few more how-tos on 'universally hated amps'... I'd like to see the 'Squier SP-10 Challenge', lol!
I have one of the Spider IIs and was told that the "special design" speakers had identical specs to the Celestion 70/30s. It's like everything else. The 70/30 is a "good" speaker if you like the sound of it. If you hate Celestions for whatever reason, you're not going to like the Line 6 speaker, either. It's also an open back combo, and I could see why closed back cab people wouldn't like that. I've had this 212 amp really loud several times over 15 years and haven't blown them (used the amp at many gigs). So I don't think the speakers qualify as cheap Chinese junk by any means.
So I can still use pedals with my Spider V 60 and make them sound good? People just kept telling me it will make it worse
The amp already has effects inside it. I have the Spider V 30 and I don't think it will add much with a pedal.
True with those spider amps trying to get a good sound with pedals it's like polishing a turd 💩
I don't know what the problem is. Every piece of equipment has it's own tempterment. The spider hasn't stopped people for cheering at the end of a song.
Nice Clean tho
what about just using the line in jack?
What line in jack? What on earth are you talking about? THERE IS NO LINE IN JACK! DUH... Unless you're talking about the instrument input, which is exactly what he's using, so I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Care to clear it up for me?
Just run it clean and turn the effects off.Thats how I do it. I got lucky and found mine at Goodwill for 8$.The power cord was missing. That's why so cheap.
How do you turn effects off?
i'm have one spider II 150watts(head) and the clean channel is good. if you stay away of the dirt channel's everything is gonna be okay kkkkkkk.
i'm only wish it have one efects loop
I get a better sound with my Spider jam adjusted correctly then my 410 Deville or Fender modified Deluxe
If you know what you are doing, you can take a turd and make it sound amazing!!!
You are an amazing guitarist, but you don't play the same style of music I do. I play metal, but I'm sure you could apply your methods to getting a good metal tone.
Check out the dust on that thing.
Hey Brian. It looks like that strap of yours is about to give up and break. You don't want to risk that,especially at a gig (ask me how I know). That hole is getting bigger every time I see it.
Yes I really do need a new (and better) strap!!
If you have a spider 4 or 5, download the software and use it to turn the pre and post boost all the way down. Having those boost turned up is why pedals sound like crap.
...I have that amp and it was designed for metal and rock and the only pedals I use are the ones that expand on what the amp already has like chorus and reverb...
Shit he should show.use how to hook an effects loop up to the katana 50 lol
I have to say... that amp made me pretty unhappy. I've tried them at guitar center and I just cannot get behind the vibe. When it comes to modeling amps, I'd probably just stick with the Fender Mustang series. The Champion is pretty good, too. I'm just not overly impressed by Line6.
AzHarris Blackstar with the 6l6 and el34 settings
Helped me be glad I never owned anything by line 6
I have NEVER recommended a modeling amp unless the intended player is compelled to try or experiment with some different effects but who also has very, very little available money who can't afford a separate amp and effects. A very important part of an electric guitar player learning curve is learning the interaction of separate guitars, pedals and amps to each other - buying a modeler amp basically sidesteps and disables understanding and learning that essential body of knowledge that every electric guitar player really should learn.
agreed, but keep in mind - I'm not insinuating that one should buy one of these amps. I'm saying if you are stuck with one, here's a way to make it sound a little better with your pedals. A little.
Wampler Pedals Thanks for tackling a real world problem. All guitarists should know how to deal with any amp they are stuck with and get the best sound possible.
Before you drop 200 dollars on a pedal I think someone should drop 400 or more on a small tube head or combo and then get pedals. Though this is good for guys with a proper pedalboard and a tube rig that can't play at volumes.
I think someone needs to do some dusting in Brian's shop!
Line 6 IV 75 watt we're used in recording studios one of them we're Sigma sound studio in Philadelphia its was used from 2010 to 2014 i own it now..this is why no one trust or listen to RUclipsrs anymore to much self opinions and not enough facts and truth..
Dont we guitarists get a bit obsessive and frankly snobbish when it comes to amp sound. Surely what we play and the way we play it is more important.
A jack is not a potentiometer. Potentiometers control volume and tone.