Gem or Trash? Things I Love And Hate About the Litepro Bicycle

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  • Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
  • This is a review of the Litepro bicycle I bought a few months ago. It may be a great bike for commuting and running errands if you're after a folding bike, but it has some annoyances and you may not want to pull the trigger on one if you're after the perfect bike. In this video, I'm going to tell you the good, the bad, and the ugly.
    Here's the video about the shopping experience: • Operation Brompton Clo...
    00:00 Experiment explained
    00:30 The good
    02:53 The bad and the ugly
    07:00 Who should consider this bike?
    Shoutout to Victor ‪@EverydayCycling‬ for the great videos on your channel!
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Комментарии • 92

  • @BikeCommuterHero
    @BikeCommuterHero  2 года назад

    Here's the video about the shopping experience: ruclips.net/video/jIEZTGhQ-XA/видео.html
    Shoutout to Victor @Everyday Cycling for the great videos on your channel!

  • @rikkilambo
    @rikkilambo 11 месяцев назад +12

    Even a Brompton doesn't have everything working out of the box 🤣

    • @BikeCommuterHero
      @BikeCommuterHero  11 месяцев назад +2

      Oh well, there’s no such a thing as a perfect bike.

    • @ultragorepictures
      @ultragorepictures 17 дней назад

      Check out the 9 speed external (Shimano) Litepro on their official website, I think it's a good deal, and better value than Brompton

  • @Tanstaafl1976
    @Tanstaafl1976 22 дня назад

    Wow, a lot of compromises and fixes. I had hoped that the manufacturer would've copied the Brompton more carefully to avoid these. Thank you for all this information. I am happy with my Dahon folding bikes.

  • @stephenong8463
    @stephenong8463 2 года назад +6

    The Litepro extender is shape to fit Brompton bike, so definitely need some washer/spacer to fill the gap.
    Alternatively you can consider Muzqi extender, it's secure both end 1st and centre last to give it a good fit. And been taller, it give better clearance to ground to prevent absorber hit during fold

  • @maheshv1395
    @maheshv1395 Год назад +23

    After seeing this video, what comes to my mind is this "I am not rich enough to spend on cheap things"

    • @mareksykora779
      @mareksykora779 11 месяцев назад +6

      Brompon thanks you for this what keeps their prices extremely high.

    • @IthliniEllyanSenah
      @IthliniEllyanSenah Месяц назад

      ​@@mareksykora779 Their prices are high, cause their production line is in UK and not some Chinese sweatshop where they pay their employees next to nothing. You are paying for fairness here.

    • @mareksykora779
      @mareksykora779 Месяц назад +1

      @@IthliniEllyanSenah You are totally wrong. Brompton doesn't pay much more to its employees. China is not as cheap as it used to be. But Brompton just uses old manufacture technology. If the computers were made the same way, you would need to pay four times more for your notebook.

    • @pgpagaia
      @pgpagaia Месяц назад

      Indeed. All those fixes are not worth their time and money.

  • @pedrocols
    @pedrocols 19 дней назад

    Great video!

  • @JohnMFlores
    @JohnMFlores 2 месяца назад

    thanks for this honest review

  • @CynicalLurker
    @CynicalLurker Год назад

    The Aceoffix p1 though 👀, frame 1-1 to brompton for spare parts too(can't turn front wheel in kickstand mode though) .
    Thanks for the video, I am looking east over a new brompton too.

  • @ab935
    @ab935 2 года назад +6

    Thanks for the update. Bromptons have problems too. I'm not sure about the current products, but mine keeps me busy with the tool set. The plastic shifter is a known problem and after the warranty is up, I may replace it with a twist shifter like on my dutch bike.
    As gas prices go up so will bike thefts. Many places in my area are allowing people to bring their bikes in, for those that don't a tri-fold works well.

    • @BikeCommuterHero
      @BikeCommuterHero  2 года назад +2

      You're right. Bike theft is a real problem, and it was what got me thinking about a folding bike in the first place.

  • @gadenp81
    @gadenp81 Год назад +7

    Litepro in South East Asia (SEA) is known as high-quality parts for bicycles. I'm really guessing the shipment screwed up the parts. I hope they are getting better at shipment.
    Litepro's actually high quality inhouse brand is Crius which is funny at being high-end and abit more expensive. So people actually go for the abit cheaper but still as good Fnhon brand. Or the way cheaper Java or Hito brands. People usually buy Litepro parts not their bicycles :P And use Shimano gears and brakes. And assembly themselves or pay others to assemble.
    These 2 companies are actually formed by breakaway staff / engineers from Dahon. Which is up there with Brompton and MoBot in SEA.

    • @gadenp81
      @gadenp81 Год назад

      @Anthony I disagree. They are some really good quality parts. Just do not get frame, brakes and gears.

  • @MnMPeace
    @MnMPeace Год назад +2

    I wish I knew how to fix up bikes so I could get this clone. It looks like such a great option for people who can’t afford the Brompton

  • @p504504
    @p504504 2 года назад

    professional review!

  • @boi_jason
    @boi_jason 2 года назад +3

    I have a similar Brompton copy/clone which is similar to your Litepro. Mine is a 9 speed Camp Pikes. 3 speed Sturmey archer and 3 cogs for a good range but like yours, does not shift well. For the rear fender i added a piece of plastic cut out from an older plastic fender and attached it to the end of the fender and solved the wet pants issue. I also gave up on the wheel extender as they interfere with my pedalling, my heels keep striking them. Also i had to fit some washers in between the gap to make it fit. Other things i changed were to tires (schwalbe), pedals (MKS), kickstand (Minoura), saddle and grips for better comfort during my daily commute.

    • @bartolomesr1018
      @bartolomesr1018 Год назад

      Hello, If you do not mind I have a question for you. Camp pike is a good option for me but I am a bit concern about the gear ratios. As I have calculated there is a big difference depending on the hub ratios (there is the standard ratio -0.75/1/1.33- and the wide ratio -0.64/1/1.57) because with the later there's a total ratio from 2.4 o 7.8 meter/rev. (That is very good and you would have 9 disctint speeds) and the former would be just from 2.8 to 6.5 (what is very narrow and several of the different speed are actually the same) so I would like to know which one is what you have. Thanks in advace

  • @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
    @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 Год назад

    "The Brompton Stripe" is a well-known phenomenon from mudguard-less Brompton versions, but my Lightweight was sold with original guards and titanium stays! And they have a small "lip" in the end, as an extra Brompton item! I have added some carbon and alu-parts for them, as the originals are really "heavy metal", so an easy weight sawing is possible. Finn. Denmark

  • @freakazaav2
    @freakazaav2 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the review! Do you know if there are widely available replacement parts for the inner hinge clamps? There's a bunch for the normal Brompton C clamps but wasn't able to find any for this type which Litepro uses.

  • @marknlim1
    @marknlim1 Год назад

    Lucky you got your swytch….about to order and not so happy with the long wait times

  • @peterbedford2610
    @peterbedford2610 7 месяцев назад +2

    Very good value. All bikes need maintenance and wear out parts. Better to start at a much lower cost basis.

    • @IthliniEllyanSenah
      @IthliniEllyanSenah Месяц назад

      Yea, and when you want to learn how to paint you should also start cheap with 2 dollars 100-in-one painting kit. Won't make you wanna quit at all.

  • @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
    @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 Год назад +1

    Even my Litepro Extender fits my SuperlightM6LXBrompton perfectly, as also my more expensive version with a carbon tube in the middle, which is too soft and bends! And of course larger E-wheels, as the original are useless on anything but a totally flat surface.

  • @stephane918
    @stephane918 Год назад

    Great video thanks.
    Once you changed the seat post do you think it will fit someone 190cm or 6f 3 tall?
    Thanks for your help

  • @FirstLast-jm4dx
    @FirstLast-jm4dx 2 года назад +1

    Since I have no fenders, I think of the front wheel touching the back wheel on my Brompton as my parking brakes.

  • @jaspersonnyoner
    @jaspersonnyoner Год назад +1

    Can your next experiment be to buy 20" rear triangle and fork upgrade for bigger tires and disc brakes?

  • @Alssare2
    @Alssare2 Год назад

    Hello.. Thank you for introducing this product.. Do you think it is possible to take a trip on this bike..? And do you think that the rear basket can carry a bag weighing 10 kilos throughout the trip..? I saw some videos of the original Brompton Bike on the road and was able to.. Do you think this bike is the same quality and durability.. Thank you

  • @yahiakala9032
    @yahiakala9032 2 года назад +2

    Did you find that the handlebar drags on the ground if you try to wheel the bike around in its folded state? I seem to be having that problem

  • @naromsky
    @naromsky 5 месяцев назад

    Well, the original has some serious compromises for the price, too. Most notably for me the front wheel can be fitted with a grippier tire without serious modification, even if you could find one.

  • @B33rNuts08
    @B33rNuts08 2 года назад +2

    The problems you have could easily be fixed though right? These bikes are trying to be 1:1 to a Brompton so you can just buy a new rear fender they are about $20. You could also buy the rear shifter as well. I am super curious if these bikes can just use the official Brompton rear rack kit that comes with the rear fender as well. Even after the upgrades you would still be less than half the price of a Brompton.

  • @pali_aha
    @pali_aha 19 дней назад +1

    The price of a Litepro vs a Brompton is necessary.
    How can you not compare the prices?

  • @ultragorepictures883
    @ultragorepictures883 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for this review because it made me clear that this wil be perfect bike for me, because I want to experiment with, and not spend 5000 euro for a T1 Brompton
    I am going to weld caliper brake connections pin on the frame so I can replace they brakes with Magura Hydraulic rim brakes (even Brompton doesn't have this!) did you paid 120 euro extra to get shipped by DPD?

  • @MoawiyaMograbi
    @MoawiyaMograbi Год назад

    did you find better compatible fenders?

  • @muhammadfarhan5823
    @muhammadfarhan5823 6 месяцев назад

    Where did you get the seatpost? What dimensions did you get?

  • @Sr.D
    @Sr.D 2 года назад +3

    for the price I think a dahon curl it's a better option, not exactly a copy of the brompton but a 16" trifold bike

    • @kostyafedot551
      @kostyafedot551 2 года назад

      Not sure if it is still sold.

    • @AlexandreMCunha
      @AlexandreMCunha Год назад +3

      Probably the best option for a tri fold bicycle. However dahon curls does't have an option similar to the brompton style front block and curl does't have a ecosystem of products like the brompton has. The reasons I don't buy curl.

    • @Sr.D
      @Sr.D Год назад +2

      @@AlexandreMCunha true, and they're around 1300€… So you better buy the A line i guess

  • @athomenotavailable
    @athomenotavailable 6 месяцев назад

    Trifold bikes can be pretty good so long as you don't get their first generation. There are very fine details in the Brompton basic trifold design to solve subtle issues that tend to be missed out in the first generation of copycats. The handling during shipping can be pretty shitty too, so it is best to buy from a local distributor who orders an entire container and manage the whole handling from loading to unloading from the ship.

  • @MultiWhitbread
    @MultiWhitbread Год назад +4

    Hey there my hero: okay, so I got a LitePro and head better experience with shipping than you did. But I cannot get the bike to shift into the higher cog for 4,5, and six. You mentioned some electric tape helped. Do you have a video about getting the LitePro to shift in all gears? Also, how heavy is the LitePro?

    • @bryanteo5963
      @bryanteo5963 Год назад

      Did u try adjusting the 2 screws on the derailleur?

  • @limchoonteck1
    @limchoonteck1 Год назад +1

    In my country there are importers, dealers for such bikes so is way cheaper and has better support. Upgrade parts are widely available.

    • @sim_scape
      @sim_scape Год назад

      Where do you live ?

    • @limchoonteck1
      @limchoonteck1 Год назад

      @@sim_scape Singapore.

    • @sim_scape
      @sim_scape Год назад

      @@limchoonteck1so lucky! In France it is impossible to find folding bike dealers

    • @limchoonteck1
      @limchoonteck1 Год назад

      @@sim_scape That is so surprising, these budget trifolds are very popular here in Singapore along with the branded ones. The government here built extensive networks of cycling paths despite of heavy population desity in the small island country.

  • @nelb.4976
    @nelb.4976 4 месяца назад

    What saddle are you using right now?

  • @jeezosdude867
    @jeezosdude867 Год назад

    Didn't the easy wheels come with flat washers to match every bike size?

  • @thecheapbastard5168
    @thecheapbastard5168 Год назад +1

    How long was the stock seatpost? I'm also 180cm tall, planning to get this bike too.

    • @BikeCommuterHero
      @BikeCommuterHero  Год назад

      I'd get the extended seatpost. I'm the same height and I found the stock seatpost a tad bit too short.

  • @MustRunTonyo
    @MustRunTonyo 11 месяцев назад

    Where did you get the shock absorber? From litepro still or some other?

  • @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
    @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 2 года назад

    As an owner of an original "LigthweightH6LXBrompton" my bike was delivered as standard, in Scandinavia(?), with a 600 mm seat post (I'm 184 cm)! For being able to put it into my German B&W, solid black travel box for a Brompton, I then had to remove first the saddle, and then the post from the bottom (It's a folding bike, so why?), so I have lately, for a test, bought a Chinese, 535 mm standard length, black titanium post, also with the security, wide end in the bottom. I may just pull it out in full, and it is still a little too low for me and my, too high weight punches it a little down during rides! I also have an original, heavy black telescope saddle post and a 600 mm black titanium post with a ring mount on top, to be just pulled out from the frame. And I think it is a "Litepro" seat clamp I use for my ordinary post, as it is lighter than the very complicated type, original seat post clamp.

  • @MustRunTonyo
    @MustRunTonyo 10 месяцев назад

    Did you have any issues with the handlebar not being secured? It move a lot, mine it's unasable!! SO dangerous! I tightened the bold but it doens't stay locked in any way!

    • @livehbg6172
      @livehbg6172 10 месяцев назад

      I had this issue - I bought a new through bolt since I stripped the head on the original. It’s tight enough now - But I can still move it if I apply a lot of force.

    • @MustRunTonyo
      @MustRunTonyo 10 месяцев назад

      @@livehbg6172 mmm...maybe a with this design it happens with all brompton as well? Is it like kinda expected?

  • @gnipfl
    @gnipfl 2 года назад +2

    What you pay is what you get.
    The longer frontpart, as you mentioned in the first part, is not a plus in my opinion. It alters the physics of the whole frame. Brompton reengineered their frame over the years. I wouldn't trust the cheap enlarged one on the long run. If you recalculate with the extra costs and put the taxes in, you ahould be in the price region of a A-Line Brompton.
    Nevertheless have fun with the experimental bike, I had a lot of fun watching your journey. Big thumb up!

    • @BikeCommuterHero
      @BikeCommuterHero  2 года назад +2

      I agree, you get what you pay for. I've learned so much in this experiment.
      As for the longer front part, I look forward to comparing this bike to a genuine Brompton to see how big a difference there is between them.
      Thanks for following me on this journey!

    • @bobwilliamson5574
      @bobwilliamson5574 2 года назад +3

      The frame is approximately 20 mm longer, hardly enough to change the ' physics' of the frame and even with all the charges it still comes in cheaper than the Brompton.

    • @simplelife6827
      @simplelife6827 2 года назад

      @@bobwilliamson5574 £638 including shipping,

    • @bobwilliamson5574
      @bobwilliamson5574 2 года назад +3

      @@simplelife6827 aud 800 , against $3700 from the local bike shop. A bargain.

  • @steveelkins52
    @steveelkins52 Год назад +1

    It would be cheaper to buy a used Brompton, especially if you consider the overall cost of ownership including parts and residual value . Excellent review.

    • @felixcat9318
      @felixcat9318 Год назад

      A very good condition, used Brompton could be had for what it cost to buy, repair and modify this Chinese copy!
      I would suggest that a good connection used Brompton is actually more reliable than a new Chinese clone and a better investment.

    • @tdgdbs1
      @tdgdbs1 Год назад

      You won't find a 6 speed Brompton for less than $1000; Litepro is currently on sale for $530. I own a B75 and notice very little difference in quality. Not sure about newer Bromptons. @@felixcat9318

  • @sim_scape
    @sim_scape Год назад +1

    Could you please tell us how much this bike weighs ?

  • @vincewhite5087
    @vincewhite5087 2 года назад

    A mobat a brompton copy too.

  • @roberts8783
    @roberts8783 Год назад +2

    what's the total standard weight?

    • @sim_scape
      @sim_scape Год назад

      I am asking the same question

    • @livehbg6172
      @livehbg6172 10 месяцев назад

      I weighed mine when I got it. 28.5 lbs as I remember.

  • @jonathansacci2325
    @jonathansacci2325 Год назад +1

    Can the LitePro be folded to fit as a carry-on like the Brompton?

    • @AlexandreMCunha
      @AlexandreMCunha Год назад

      yes

    • @BikeCommuterHero
      @BikeCommuterHero  Год назад +1

      It is very similar - although not identical - in size. I'd say it's still small enough for a carry-on, but some airlines have weight restrictions as well, and - despite the name - it's not that light...

    • @livehbg6172
      @livehbg6172 10 месяцев назад

      I was unable to fit my litepro into the Samsonite Stryde 2 suitcase. Bromptons fit in this case so Litepro is bigger folded I think.

  • @RyanS-iq1wj
    @RyanS-iq1wj 4 месяца назад +1

    so many problems. i will rather not save the money and just get a brompton bike.

  • @eliastv5498
    @eliastv5498 2 года назад +9

    Just bought one... Man, I'm LOVING it. I got the Pikes. Great product - no Brompton 'woke' ideology. I love Chinese efficiency.

    • @eliastv5498
      @eliastv5498 Год назад

      @Anthony Pikes.. LOVE it, still.

    • @eliastv5498
      @eliastv5498 Год назад +1

      @Anthony I bought it in Korea. Pikes are slightly larger than the other Brompton knockoff brands. Great quality though. I got mine on Naver. It's a Korean website.

    • @gdwlaw5549
      @gdwlaw5549 Год назад +1

      Obviously you love British innovation and design then?

    • @gdwlaw5549
      @gdwlaw5549 Год назад

      So you have a serious accident in order to enjoy a cheap bike? How can you recommend this shit?

    • @nbartlett6538
      @nbartlett6538 Год назад +4

      I had no idea that a bike could be “woke”!

  • @zeev
    @zeev 10 дней назад

    this bike is a disaster if it is competing with brompton. shame

  • @haolinchen8982
    @haolinchen8982 5 месяцев назад +1

    To be honest, with the money you spend you can get a brompton maybe second hand.

  • @IthliniEllyanSenah
    @IthliniEllyanSenah Месяц назад

    So to wrap it up you need to change half of things in this bike to make it usable... 🫣