Oh good another "the answer is staring vinny right in the face and he still can't see it" type game. Truly the only competitor to the strand type game.
These are even worse for us, the RUclips crowd, because we have to assume chat is trying to help and it's the only time Vinny never actually looks over. We cannot help.
I love Vinny. I love these games. But man do I hate when he plays them. A: He doesn't pay enough attention to actually make these viable. Which then leads to B: These series become what I call, _Complaint Likes_ . I'm sure you can figure out what that means. Which in turn leads to C: They stop being fun to watch because the funny man is just being hard headed and whiney. (No Vinny, trying to brute force the puzzle with the same exact design 20 times in a row isn't going to solve it, and no your complaining about it isn't justified when you're being so deliberately hard headed. DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT FFS. APPLY BRAIN.)
24:12 I swear if i could do a David Hayter/Solid Snake impersonation even _half as good as Vin's_ I would do it at almost any opportunity. Whenever he does those Snake inflections or Master Miller it sends me
I love how vinny stared at the phrase "destroy activators to use machines" for like 20 seconds and twice read it as "destroy activators using machines"
One of the destruction games that you played in the past was Besiege, it was the one with a medieval/steampunk-ish theme where the building camera and block-joining mechanics were very similar to the ones here in ABRISS, but you could save blueprints for anything you built Speaking of Besiege, it actually got a huge engine upgrade in early 2022 (they moved from 32-bit to 64-bit, which allows for the use of way more system resources) and runs significantly better than it used to, so you can actually go wild with your creations now with barely any lag (no more single digit framerates from using a couple vacuum blocks). They also did a big quality of life pass on a lot of the Ui and stuff, so it's a much better experience overall (which is saying something, considering it was already a great game) I know there are a billion new games coming out, but if you do ever decide to revisit Besiege down the road, just know that it would genuinely be an improved experience
to defend the game a bit at 40:49; You could have compared your poop to the solution and extracted the relevant lessons, i.e. align the thrust vector with the center of mass and the target direction, so u don't speeeen, which is easy with symmetry. No need to make the exact thing it wants you to make. But I do agree that the hint system could be better, maybe giving an explanation first instead of a solution TL:DR Skill Issue
The way he did that zero grav level was so dumb, he blinded the red stuff which is fair enough cos that's just how he is, but then when he actually sees it he doesn't even try once to build a contraption that will destroy them which has been the objective of the whole game and goes straight to the hint, then criticises the hint for giving him the solution despite not attempting the actual puzzle once? He already saw what the hint system was like, albeit once, but surely you have to attempt a puzzle at least once before getting a hint? I agree as well that the hints could be more subtle, so the criticism is valid to me, but the way in which he led himself into that criticism was laughable and it makes it seem like his criticism just came from a lack of effort into properly playing the game.
@@GoogleUser-ms6hr I don't think he actually saw where the red ball was before the hint. Maybe he was expecting the game to show its location, which I don't think is that unreasonable since a lot of games will point the camera at the objective for example. What I think was maybe unfair to the game was he thinking the solution was more rigid than it actually was, mainly because he wasn't getting why things were working. In that level the game gives you 6 Ultraheavy Blocks and uses all of them in its solution, but you don't need to use any, all they do is pulp the acceleration from the thrusters and make the contraption more controllable. Same thing with the 4 thrusters, you can use all 4 and controllably go in all 4 direction, you can use 3 like the solution, you can use 2 and pulse the first one so you don't need to brake... But the most important feature of the provided solution was that it was balanced as to not rotate much, and he couldn't isolate that aspect of it
@@GoogleUser-ms6hr tbf, some people just really don't click with physics puzzles like this, and I feel like if someone isn't able to intuitively come to an understanding of what needs to happen for the right solution, they're going to possibly oversimplify it into needing a specific pattern of structure, rather than thinking in terms of a sequence of events that need to occur. Vinny *did* sort of take the wrong conclusion from his struggling with this, thinking that the game wants one specific "correct" structure, when really it just wants a certain set of events to be triggered somehow. That's unfortunate, but I think it's probably just the result of him not being especially physics/engineering-minded (which tbf, he completely admits)
there also is a certain degree to which it's true that more complicated physics puzzles are naturally going to have a narrower set of possible solutions, but to me that's not a sign of the game just being like a bunch of Lego sets where the player just needs to figure out the instructions, it's just a sign of complex puzzle design
@@vanessaashford9203 I also appreciate that he likes to put effort to play these games "wrong", with all the scoops, penicular structures and self inflicted CBT, to make it more fun. And this is definitely more funneled than that, but not *that* specific
yeah I was just thinking that as well, and tbh someone could maybe make the same criticism of some of those puzzles that they hem you in to one specific type of design, but just like I said on a comment above, I think that's to some degree inevitable with physics puzzles above a certain level of complexity
The game does let you do your own solutions. The hints are just something they know will work for the players who are really struggling. For instance the 2x4 rocket car that you needed to turn. Yours would have worked you just needed the weight distribution for the thrusters. Your turning thrusters were both bottom layer forcing the car into an upward spin. If the side thrusters where lined up vertically on the side the same way they were on the back, i think it could have worked
I think the hints are genius, by showing the entire solution it robs the player of all the enjoyment of being able to beat the level, incentivising them to think more before giving up, and they show the most optimal way so the player can take notes on how not to be an idiot aka i like seeing binyot suffer
yeah it's kind of like the times I had to sink to looking up solutions for a couple of the shrine puzzles in TotK (in basically every case I'd realize that actually I'd just been overcomplicating everything, and the solution was something obvious I'd overlooked, which would make me regret not just trying to simplify everything)
Man, this was difficult to watch. Watching Vinny struggle to grasp how the game mechanics/physics engine work and spend a lot of that time blaming the apparent lack of build options was upsetting. I love this channel, I watch it every day, but watching vinny do puzzle games is anything but a pleasure.
"I'm being funneled into a specific solution" and then when brainyot follows the hint exactly it still doesn't work due to wacky zero-G physics. Top tier game design.
A lot of these comments are to the effect of “brainyot” but even when Vinny runs the exact same thing 2 times in a row he can get very different outcomes. There’s some valid issues with learning what works without literally copying the “smart” kid’s homework.
I think it's just the low FOV for the regular camera. At 5:15, 20:08 you can see how the perspective distortion increases with the free cam's higher FOV. Looks like the game is also pushing the camera forwards at the same time it increases the FOV, like a dolly zoom
The fog and glare creates an illusion that makes the depth perception harder to perceive than if the game didn't have it, especially when the fog increases when the camera moves away which is realistic but not helpful.
@@citrus_sweet I don't see how the fog hurts depth perception; the fog makes distant and near objects have different values and saturation, so there's more to differentiate them. The low FOV makes distant and near objects have similar angular sizes, and are thus less distinct, that's the "orthographicality". Human vision is very biased to perceive distant objects as being smaller, so when you are getting close to an orthographic view, things might get fucky, e.g. 8:44 and Emmert's Law related illusions
@@Teteu.R I think it's both, at least from my perspective. Parts of the video when the camera is further away putting more fog inbetween the camera and a distant object makes the object look far even when it's right next to the building area. I know what orthography is and it assists but I'm not used to seeing video games that use both orthographic projection and dynamic fog at the same time.
Having to show the player the solution to a puzzle and calling it a hint is a dishonest catastrophic failure for a puzzle game, it failed in teaching the player how to problem solve in it's first attempt, and immediately gave up. It would've been better to just give the player a "skip to next stage" button instead of a "show hint(solution)" button. The reward of these games is solving it yourself, with something like that you're just stealing the reward.
From the thumbnail I thought it was more along the lines of create of weapon/ship to destroy/demolish but I was *so* far off. First time seeing a genre like this
@@juliet4093 Yesterday evening I was a bit stressed, tired and the game didn't click with me. My comment wasn't that fair. I honestly think I'd enjoy playing this.
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Finally Vinny has invited us to his Briss
I call dibs on his prepuce
It's cus it's all about gold right?
C O C K injured 😢
@@USMC49er no fucking kidding. Religious people creep/gross me the fuck out🤮😬
I wonder if Hugh will be there
29:49 - The brain rot sets in.
read your comment at 27:40 ish in so it's quite accurate.
He just completely forgot the objective of the game
Oh good another "the answer is staring vinny right in the face and he still can't see it" type game. Truly the only competitor to the strand type game.
Uh oh it even looks like that Lego game where he tried to build the exact same staircase 50 times in a row
These are even worse for us, the RUclips crowd, because we have to assume chat is trying to help and it's the only time Vinny never actually looks over. We cannot help.
I love Vinny. I love these games. But man do I hate when he plays them.
A: He doesn't pay enough attention to actually make these viable.
Which then leads to B: These series become what I call, _Complaint Likes_ . I'm sure you can figure out what that means.
Which in turn leads to C: They stop being fun to watch because the funny man is just being hard headed and whiney.
(No Vinny, trying to brute force the puzzle with the same exact design 20 times in a row isn't going to solve it, and no your complaining about it isn't justified when you're being so deliberately hard headed. DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT FFS. APPLY BRAIN.)
vinny playing card games moment
You must be new here lol
Ab-riss is a german word for dismantle/destroy in regards to buildings
It directly translates to Demolition in this context.
The riss part comes from reißen(pronounced almost like the word rice) which means ripping or tearing in English...
Ok nerd
@@marvelousballWhat a strange comment. Now knowing something in another language is nerdy? Lol
I hope you're saying that in good fun
OK or Abbruch
British Vinny jumpscare 1:12
FYDGHET SPINYAH
FOV 900
The guy who invented the tikka masala died recently 😔
Nah, that was just B-Dub doing a bit of cheeky editing
Jawohl Kameraden heute kommt der Abriss!
24:12 I swear if i could do a David Hayter/Solid Snake impersonation even _half as good as Vin's_ I would do it at almost any opportunity.
Whenever he does those Snake inflections or Master Miller it sends me
I love how vinny stared at the phrase "destroy activators to use machines" for like 20 seconds and twice read it as "destroy activators using machines"
Now someone needs to mod the Red Vox gun into this game.
"What is bro cooking?", the game
One of the destruction games that you played in the past was Besiege, it was the one with a medieval/steampunk-ish theme where the building camera and block-joining mechanics were very similar to the ones here in ABRISS, but you could save blueprints for anything you built
Speaking of Besiege, it actually got a huge engine upgrade in early 2022 (they moved from 32-bit to 64-bit, which allows for the use of way more system resources) and runs significantly better than it used to, so you can actually go wild with your creations now with barely any lag (no more single digit framerates from using a couple vacuum blocks). They also did a big quality of life pass on a lot of the Ui and stuff, so it's a much better experience overall (which is saying something, considering it was already a great game)
I know there are a billion new games coming out, but if you do ever decide to revisit Besiege down the road, just know that it would genuinely be an improved experience
ABSCHISS
vinny once again reminding me of northernlion and being so bad at games that it makes me want to buy it just to do it right
Seeing Vinny struggle with how a lever works is actually painful
32:48 this is like that one painting.
DESTROY, BUILD, DESTROY
to defend the game a bit at 40:49;
You could have compared your poop to the solution and extracted the relevant lessons, i.e. align the thrust vector with the center of mass and the target direction, so u don't speeeen, which is easy with symmetry. No need to make the exact thing it wants you to make.
But I do agree that the hint system could be better, maybe giving an explanation first instead of a solution
TL:DR Skill Issue
The way he did that zero grav level was so dumb, he blinded the red stuff which is fair enough cos that's just how he is, but then when he actually sees it he doesn't even try once to build a contraption that will destroy them which has been the objective of the whole game and goes straight to the hint, then criticises the hint for giving him the solution despite not attempting the actual puzzle once?
He already saw what the hint system was like, albeit once, but surely you have to attempt a puzzle at least once before getting a hint? I agree as well that the hints could be more subtle, so the criticism is valid to me, but the way in which he led himself into that criticism was laughable and it makes it seem like his criticism just came from a lack of effort into properly playing the game.
@@GoogleUser-ms6hr I don't think he actually saw where the red ball was before the hint. Maybe he was expecting the game to show its location, which I don't think is that unreasonable since a lot of games will point the camera at the objective for example.
What I think was maybe unfair to the game was he thinking the solution was more rigid than it actually was, mainly because he wasn't getting why things were working.
In that level the game gives you 6 Ultraheavy Blocks and uses all of them in its solution, but you don't need to use any, all they do is pulp the acceleration from the thrusters and make the contraption more controllable.
Same thing with the 4 thrusters, you can use all 4 and controllably go in all 4 direction, you can use 3 like the solution, you can use 2 and pulse the first one so you don't need to brake...
But the most important feature of the provided solution was that it was balanced as to not rotate much, and he couldn't isolate that aspect of it
@@GoogleUser-ms6hr tbf, some people just really don't click with physics puzzles like this, and I feel like if someone isn't able to intuitively come to an understanding of what needs to happen for the right solution, they're going to possibly oversimplify it into needing a specific pattern of structure, rather than thinking in terms of a sequence of events that need to occur. Vinny *did* sort of take the wrong conclusion from his struggling with this, thinking that the game wants one specific "correct" structure, when really it just wants a certain set of events to be triggered somehow. That's unfortunate, but I think it's probably just the result of him not being especially physics/engineering-minded (which tbf, he completely admits)
there also is a certain degree to which it's true that more complicated physics puzzles are naturally going to have a narrower set of possible solutions, but to me that's not a sign of the game just being like a bunch of Lego sets where the player just needs to figure out the instructions, it's just a sign of complex puzzle design
@@vanessaashford9203 I also appreciate that he likes to put effort to play these games "wrong", with all the scoops, penicular structures and self inflicted CBT, to make it more fun. And this is definitely more funneled than that, but not *that* specific
FINALLY another Whisker Squadron stream!
These are like little TOTK Ultrahand puzzles, I like it
yeah I was just thinking that as well, and tbh someone could maybe make the same criticism of some of those puzzles that they hem you in to one specific type of design, but just like I said on a comment above, I think that's to some degree inevitable with physics puzzles above a certain level of complexity
Honestly, Vinny is playing these kinds of games just to bait for hatewatching views. All part of a great plan to get to 1 mil. subs on this channel.
ABRISS - build to destroy
Vinny plays Whisker Squadron: Survivor for PC Live on Vinesauce!
eh?
Johnny, description says: "Vinny plays Whisker Squadron: Survivor"
Pls fix
Love the blame aesthetic of this game
Like Blame!, the Manga?
Centuries Of Thrust
The game does let you do your own solutions. The hints are just something they know will work for the players who are really struggling.
For instance the 2x4 rocket car that you needed to turn. Yours would have worked you just needed the weight distribution for the thrusters. Your turning thrusters were both bottom layer forcing the car into an upward spin. If the side thrusters where lined up vertically on the side the same way they were on the back, i think it could have worked
I think the hints are genius, by showing the entire solution it robs the player of all the enjoyment of being able to beat the level, incentivising them to think more before giving up, and they show the most optimal way so the player can take notes on how not to be an idiot
aka i like seeing binyot suffer
yeah it's kind of like the times I had to sink to looking up solutions for a couple of the shrine puzzles in TotK (in basically every case I'd realize that actually I'd just been overcomplicating everything, and the solution was something obvious I'd overlooked, which would make me regret not just trying to simplify everything)
Finally
The "Millions dead" simulator
Plague Inc.
yet another episode of "if it's stupid and it works, it's not stupid"
Ah yes, Whisker Squad
Abriss Kadabriss Alakabrazz. thats it, thats the comment.
First Dorfromantik
Now this!
Vinny's gearing up for Gothic.
Man, this was difficult to watch. Watching Vinny struggle to grasp how the game mechanics/physics engine work and spend a lot of that time blaming the apparent lack of build options was upsetting. I love this channel, I watch it every day, but watching vinny do puzzle games is anything but a pleasure.
Binyot, he have the small eyes.
"I'm being funneled into a specific solution" and then when brainyot follows the hint exactly it still doesn't work due to wacky zero-G physics. Top tier game design.
These buildings smell so bad, they have robit flies buzzing around them.
Yeah! I want to see the Besiege-like genre to grow! Puzzle games involving building and physics are so fun.
Rebensoße
reminds me of that tragedy
we got a vinesauce momment.
This feels like one of those "There is world lore, but actually not" kind of games for some reason. Probably because of the sci-fi setting.
YES Thank you for making it obvious this is a pre-record, now I can tell which videos to click and which I've already seen on twitch at a glance
Me like thing when go boom boom!
I feel like Vinny was very tired and in a hurry at the same time when he recorded this.
seems a lot like besiege
imagine if this was released 6 days later
angry birds without the birds
Arby's
Funniest video ever. Watching Vinnie try to mechanical engineer.
A lot of these comments are to the effect of “brainyot” but even when Vinny runs the exact same thing 2 times in a row he can get very different outcomes. There’s some valid issues with learning what works without literally copying the “smart” kid’s homework.
Fun Fact: The word Abriss is german for demolition.
Da vinyot returns.
Speen!
Kollaps
you know
this game make me realise vinny's uh..... "brain limitation" x)
Perhaps you should play some brain age for the DS vinny
Nordrhein-Westfalen Simulator
Is this game messing with the """orthographicality""" of the camera...? The depth is really hard to judge
I think it's just the low FOV for the regular camera. At 5:15, 20:08 you can see how the perspective distortion increases with the free cam's higher FOV.
Looks like the game is also pushing the camera forwards at the same time it increases the FOV, like a dolly zoom
The fog and glare creates an illusion that makes the depth perception harder to perceive than if the game didn't have it, especially when the fog increases when the camera moves away which is realistic but not helpful.
@@citrus_sweet I don't see how the fog hurts depth perception;
the fog makes distant and near objects have different values and saturation, so there's more to differentiate them.
The low FOV makes distant and near objects have similar angular sizes, and are thus less distinct, that's the "orthographicality". Human vision is very biased to perceive distant objects as being smaller, so when you are getting close to an orthographic view, things might get fucky, e.g. 8:44 and Emmert's Law related illusions
@@Teteu.R I think it's both, at least from my perspective. Parts of the video when the camera is further away putting more fog inbetween the camera and a distant object makes the object look far even when it's right next to the building area. I know what orthography is and it assists but I'm not used to seeing video games that use both orthographic projection and dynamic fog at the same time.
Boom Blox got a sequel?
@Vinny i saw you in an ELO Video called When i was a boy, you are the Tour van driver.
Vinny, you’re not having a lot of luck because you have a poor understanding of physics.
Having to show the player the solution to a puzzle and calling it a hint is a dishonest catastrophic failure for a puzzle game, it failed in teaching the player how to problem solve in it's first attempt, and immediately gave up. It would've been better to just give the player a "skip to next stage" button instead of a "show hint(solution)" button. The reward of these games is solving it yourself, with something like that you're just stealing the reward.
vinny really just doesn't get it does he
that's okay thats why we watch
OwO abrisss-
i wuw this
JAWOHL
roblox
A game with a German name.
Shame that the game is kinda lame.
From the thumbnail I thought it was more along the lines of create of weapon/ship to destroy/demolish but I was *so* far off.
First time seeing a genre like this
Bras
The game is super original and looks genuinely fun, I’m not sure how you could see it as lame
@@juliet4093 Yesterday evening I was a bit stressed, tired and the game didn't click with me.
My comment wasn't that fair. I honestly think I'd enjoy playing this.
@@Fuchsfein very reasonable! :)