Pete Carroll Says He Fought For His Job, Seems To Not Want To Leave Seahawks | Pat McAfee Reacts
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A shame that people remember Pete for the 1 yard play but forget that he built the Legendary defense (300+ roster moves in 1 year) that destroyed a historic offense the year before.
Pete took the blame for that, but we will never truly know if Russ switched out of a run play.
Knowing what we know about Russ, I would not be surprised if he changed the play at the line@@coleeto2
The 1 yard play where he called a run and Russ optioned out of it?
Pete should have 2-4 Superbowls
@@coleeto2 Im thinking this as well. Pete publicly takes accountability on behalf of the team and never yelled at RW the way Sean Payton did 😆
So dope that Bobby Wagner hopped on the show!
This is one depressing week for Football.. 😔
dude no kidding. I fr feel some type of way about everything that’s been happening
Thanks Pete thanks Russ. Superbowl 48 was awesome and Seattle needed it. Good luck in the future
This is bittersweet for me as a seahawks fan. On one hand, i do think Pete had reached a point of stagnation and (at least this year) had lost the team. But on the other hand, ill never forget what hes done for this franchise.
That’s how I feel as a Pats fan I’ll always be great full for what Belichick has done for this franchise this area and for New England and Boston in general. People say it was all Tom Brady but all coaches need great players to build a dynasty. Coaches can’t do it on their own. Can Andy Reid win games with Mahones? Absolutely not right.
How do you figure that he "lost the team"? I personally didn't see any evidence of that, so I'm curious why you think that?
Bittersweet is how this 12 has also described this move.
I think Pete is a genius and this makes me sad
Those 2 losses to the 49ers, 2 losses to the rams and 37-03 loss to the ravens were devastating 😟
Going into the season, those have to be looked at as the most likely losses though.
The loss to the rams by 1 point form a missed field goal to win it changed the season
@@The509sfinest. wasnt all on him... Geno got injured and then the refs gave the rams 10 points
Yes. Losing to Steelers at home @@alexhiggins3958
Local Seattleite here. I and many others are gutted by this. Won’t feel the same without Pete, with that and Deboer leaving… it’s gonna be a long and darker than normal winter for us up here.
Weird.... i've seen a number of people with a Seahawks logo in their profile picture say its time to move on from Carrol.
@@m8x425it is the smart decision to make but that doesn’t mean we aren’t all going to miss him like crazy, overall he is the best Seahawks coach of all time even though his time is over.
If they had handed the ball to Beast Mode at the 1 yard line, he would still have his job
😂
Uhhh no that has nothing to do with the 2024 season upcoming. NFL is week by week game by game season by season. Bringing up something that happened 10yrs ago and acting like that somehow impacted this decision is ridiculous
uh if he had two rings he is nearly immune@@zombiejelly4111
yeah it's like he didn't want to win that game and was told what to do!like I don't know the NFL is fixed fake phony!and they're throwing up their Masonic🤘because they're under the influence of evil demons and the father of Lies Satan..the truth will come to the light Jesus is King!but yeahmaybe that's why the ball got picked off LOL wake up
No he wouldn't. That SB was nine years ago, it holds no bearing on anything today. It was just time to move on. Its been time. Pete should have been let go when they traded Russ, start fresh. Only the GM didn't have the power to do so and the owner stayed hands off. Well this time Jody Allen stepped in and did her job. The only mistake is keeping him in the building, never been a big fan of that. Look how Bruce Arians behaved in Tampa the year after he "stepped down". He was in the news more than players, it was a circus.
Imagine Ol Pete in freaking Alabama with his style of culture. That would be nasty.
Pete loves “his” team, it seems he was more worried about his staff , than his coaching career. I think he wants to stick around to help the transition. I can’t see him not carrying on with the Seahawks in some capacity, he loves being around the alumni. Big loss for this Seahawks fan 💔
Massive props to Pete and the way he handled it. I was tired of having a middling team that just couldn't get over the hump and unfortunately, it had to do with Pete at least to some extent with the coordinators he brought in. I hope he doesn't end up coaching for another team and he stays in the area and helps John to keep building this thing up. At the same time, if he still has that itch, I get it. Love Pete and man, that press conference had me emotional for sure!!!
HoFer Bobby Wagner gets a 1 minute phone call 😭😭😭
The calibre of coaches leaving organizations in the NFL is stunning. I do not remember another year like this. How many more will we see after the playoffs? If the Steelers lose the wildcard game will Tomlin be next?
yes, usually there would be several, but mostly because they were that bad. Pete Carroll, Bill Belichick, and Vrabel are the exceptions for sure. (yes none of these three made to the playoffs this year, but their resume speaks for themselves)
From what’s been reported, which was right after Christmas, Tomlin is expected back next season and is already involved in making roster moves and looking for an OC and they’d like to extend his contract that currently runs through 2024. Steelers have that strong reputation for loyalty, even when it’s been detrimental at times(not saying that’s the case with Tomlin). I think they realize that making Tomlin a scapegoat really wouldn’t fix their issues and they really don’t lie with him.. and unlike the titans with Vrabel. Plus they’re in the playoffs despite all the problems they’re going through.
Ofc that things can always change and it’s not been said officially.
Mike McCarthy maybe if the Cowboys have an early exit or don’t at least make it to the NFCCG?
Most likely. I think Andy Reid will leave/retire and McCarthy is definitely done in Dallas if they don't make the SB. JJ has no patience.
@@brookeb452Making your HC job a lifetime appointment ensures that everyone is going to want to be Steelers HC when Tomlin retires.
They are most likely bringing in Quinn, which wouldn't be all that much different, I think Petes contract was up next year and so is McCarthy so maybe they figure its easier to grab Quinn before then, that's what I figure the only reason then would do that earlier than expected.
Quinn sucks he was terrible without Kyle. If Quinn comes in they’ll be a doormat of the NFCW. I already expect them to take a big step back next season
Hope not... I hope they get Mike MacDonald from the Ravens
Can you imagine how different history would be if Pete Carroll gave the ball to Marshawn.
I read it was Russ that changed the call at the line.
@@MrYatesj1 That's just not true
too soon
Well he didn’t and it’s 2024 so it’s irrelevant now.
Not much difference. Seattle would maybe have 2SBs that’s about it
Pete loved to preach about how you can’t win the game in the first quarter, second quarter, or third quarter…kinda showed in how team has performed these past few years…
Appreciate all he did for the Seahawks though!
That’s literally just something he’d use to fire up the team after a comeback victory. People who think he legitimately believed that they didn’t need to have a good start to the game are laughably mislead by a MOMENT not a philosophy.
To all the seahawk fans, that broncos (with wilson) vs seattle was an awesome game to go to!
From a broncos fan
You make the playoffs and then go 9-8 with Geno as your QB in a division with the 49ers and rams... you should still have a job
No
We went 9-8 last year, we have a much better team than last year and this time we missed the playoffs. Especially losing to the trash ass rams, we should've only dropped week 1 on them because our line got hurt. We definitely got screwed by the LA Refs but still, shouldn't come down to losing to the refs against the Rams, at least he never lost against the Eagles tho
@@KINGMARS413we literally had 3-4 games that could’ve gone either way. For example, if Meyers hits his kick in the Rams game we would be in the playoffs and Pete would still be coaching. We were WAY closer to going 12-5 than people realize.
Geno is a top 10 QB and arguably the only reason they won 9 games. Casuals with strong opinions based on nothing
Right there's something to be said for that but the fact they're so ineffective at the things Carroll prides his teams on was the final straw. They BARELY won many of the games they did win this year. I think it was time. They were going nowhere. Can't tackle. Terrible offensive line for about 12 years in a row. And I love Carroll.
The Pittsburg loss at home sealed the deal. We gave up 245 rushing yards consistent with our rank of 30th against the rush. Additionally, we didn't run the ball with perhaps the best running back in the game in Kenneth Walker III ranking near the bottom in run/pass imbalance. No Harbaugh!!! No Quinn!!!!
Pete Carroll and not running the ball seems to be a major flaw
Yup, we were destroying them with the run, same against Arizona, he either doesn't run enough or runs too much. Plus Geno is pretty good at play action so we could've won both games with a good lead
I have a big problem with our OC as well. In the red zone he becomes so predictable.@@KINGMARS413
The oline is pure garbage. Geno’s arm was our best chance to win
There is no way this was a “mutual parting of ways”. He absolutely wanted to keep coaching there. He was fired.
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Excellent segment!!!!!
Seattle owes everything to Pete Carroll. Before him they were an irrelevant bottom feeder franchise. Kinda like the panthers or the cardinals… One of those franchises that can take a whole year off and a lot of people wouldn’t even notice lmao
You do remember that Seahawks went to the super bowl 4 years before Carroll came in right? I love Pete, but Mike Holmgren needs to be in the HOF before Pete.
Well ..... not exactly. Carroll was hired in 2010, Seahawks were in the Super Bowl just 5 years before that.
@@zhengtony2952 yo shout out to coach Holmgren! That’s a name I haven’t heard in awhile! But yes I remember that! Seahawks got cheated in that bowl! Still don’t take away what I said tho.. the panthers and cardinals have also played in Super Bowls & a lot of people wouldn’t notice these franchises if they took a year off lol some franchises are just irrelevant unless they are dominating
Mike Holmgren? Dude did okay as a coach during my lifetime. No clue what took place before the mid 90s though.
Lol what, Holmgren had great teams before Carroll. I just never understood why they hired a bum like Jim Mora. They have had a bad defense for years now. It was time to move on. It works out for both. There is no doubt in my mind the next coach of the Hawks will be a very good coach for a long time. 10 years 125 million for Harbaugh sounds good to me. This is a great destination with a talented roster
All these teams gonna be hurting when they realize their ain’t much on the bench for head coaches available.
Yeah but might as well cut the cord now.
Love the guy. Always a Hawks fans. He wasn’t getting his message across anymore. His schemes were very old school, and resulted in waaaaaay too many easy wins turning to losses, particularly the post season. Look at the numbers, bottom of the league for several years in almost if not all defensive categories. He had final say in majority of the roster until 2020ish when John drafted what we all called a great 2 drafts so far. Look at how we showed up to face the Steelers in Seattle…terrible decision making and terrible energy from the players. That’s coaching. Go Hawks.
Yeah I agree.. That was my biggest grievance. I personally didn't want to start to resent Pete. It was heading that direction.
I get what you're saying, why not have him step away after another winning season and move forward. Still, you said "he wasn’t getting his message across anymore?" I think that's literally just referring to the last week or two. If the message wasn't getting across they wouldn't have had back to back winning seasons. Come on now. He got the most out of those teams.
Also Pete still had a say in those drafts as well, giving it all the John isn't quite right.
Good Pete segment, for sure. 👍🏻
Can we get a bet going? How about: harbaugh-chargers, pierce-raiders, quinn-seattle, vrabel-new england, mayo-titans, belichik-atlanta, washington-raheem morris
Nobody worth a damn will want to coach with the former coach as their "advisor". This "arrangement" won't last long.
Bro what are you yapping about. It’s going to be no different than any other front office person or owner advising the head coach. And it’s pete man he’s gonna be an asset rather than a hinderance.
The ownership might be trying to sell.the franchise.
Seattle guy here. We were sick of losing. Haven't been able to stop the run for years. We need fresh blood. Not some old guy, who runs plays the rest of the league has already developed countermeasures for.
As a Seahawks fan we love Pete and wish it could’ve worked out. He built a powerful culture but it hasn’t translated to wins in the postseason for the past 10 years. Poor personnel decisions and not being able to adapt to today’s NFL really has held our team back. Hopefully we can get a younger mind as a HC and really hope Carroll stays in our organization to still bring what he always has brought to the table.
Amen. Leaving the game til the last drive is a losing mentality
@@sctim123exactly
Sometimes its just easier to blame the coach
Look you have to go get very similar as a coach, blowing up an NFL team is about a 2 decade recovery. The huge issue this year was why did they change the offense this year to the most unsuccessful offense style in the NFL? Harbaugh could work.
@@therealBocaStudios 2 decades is a massive reach. a few years at most. look at the niners after they blew it up after harbaugh. only spent a few years in purgatory before being SB contenders again
9:03 who’s gonna chef gum? 😂😂
Really folded and turn I your boy Rodgers smh
Head Coach or not they need Pete, his ability to find and develop late round draft picks into superstars is unmatched
You are high
what late round superstars do they have right now? i would love to know
That was Scot McCloughan from 2010-2013, Pete and Schneider took all the credit. They were doing such a bad job drafting word is Jodi Allen had to put a consultation committee together for the draft the last couple of years because these two had shown they were incompetent
Woolen?
Pete was definitely better at late round draft picks at the beginning of his career. Kam and Sherm were 5th rounders, Baldwin was undrafted. Riq Woolen was a 5th rounder but he isn’t a superstar. I would say that they were good at spotting players that fit for the team more recently. From 2017-2019, there were some definite misses.
"Mason Rudolph ended Peter Caroll" is wild
Wtf is ol' Giggle Bits AJ chuckling about over there? 😂
Players 😂loved this guy🇨🇦🇺🇸
I’d like to get to a point where we can find out who had final say in the Jamal Adams trade. That would definitely give me perspective.
Beast Mode at home 😂
Fought for my Job Coach😂🔥🇨🇦🇺🇸
as a local fan of the Seahawks it is my belief that they wanted him to replace a coach or 2 and he thought they could get it done with the staff in place, so the team decided to move on. They also let the entire staff know the same day that they are free to seek employment elsewhere
the way i see it is he is 72 so your pretty much year to year with him. if you think you have a team that can compete for the next 10+ years you kinda have to try finding the coach that will be there for the long haul.
😂this is gold 🇨🇦🔥🇺🇸
FaceTime to Bobby is why this show is so great
Pete will always be my favorite Seahawk’s coach.
Paul Allen’s sister that owns the Seahawks team is cray cray 😂
We will always remember the 1st goal line however he's a GREAT GUY can we remember him about how he built his teams and his house 😊 THANK YOU 😊
That means he's very available but he's also very happy to make his money and just still be part of an organization in the meantime.
Tbh thats a healthy buisness.. they allow him to speak and they discuss together. Ultimately, though it is the ownership decision.
Good man you can believe in🥊😄🇨🇦🇺🇸
Seahawks want to move off Geno and Pete didnt.
I thought the same thing. Geno is his kinda guy, cheap, and distributes the well with some mobility.
John probably realized they were a QB away from being legit contenders after all these great picks they got from the Russ trade.
Valid point, very well could have been a factor. Geno over performed in 2022, he finally wrote back in 2023. Hire a young offensive HC and draft him a QB.
@@MadMike_Xgeno isn’t my favorite choice but it has been the defense that let us down the past few years. The run defense was so hard to watch.
@@MadMike_X You are not a QB away with that atrocious defense
@@321Camera Yes, run defense + tackling needs to get better. But i mean from a talent point of view.
“Who’s gonna chew gum?”
It had to happen at some point though. And while it's great to be in contention for the playoffs every year, the Seahawks haven't been past the divisional round since the loss to NE in the Super Bowl. And being a constant one-and-done is basically the worst spot to be in as a team, cause you're not good enough to contend for a championship and not bad enough to get great draft picks.
I thought when they brought Bobby Wagner back he could become the eventual replacement for Pete Carrol, but at this point having led Seahawks in tackles I hope he plays a couple more seasons for the Hawks.
People dont understand that if they won the SB with the patriots who knows? It might of turned into 4 titles..
Arron was on earlier today lol😂
All Seahawks fans let’s all stand up and give Pete Carol a thank you parade
i have to wonder if colts and texans along with bengals quick turnaroundsa have pushed these teams to fire their headcoaches
I’m a USC fan✌️, thus a Pete Carroll fan. Became a Seahawks fan cuz of Pete, but I would much prefer to be a Chargers fan! 🤞🙏
Mike vrable in Seattle makes sense
Anyone ever think that maybe Russ went rogue on the sb play
Could you imagine the Seahawks hiring Jim Harbaugh, they would be handing him a contender. I think it would be spectacular! First thing on the list is a young Run and Gun quarterback durable, no Penix.
Sherm was talking about how he still wants to coach. Wonder where he'll end up
2:44 clearly did not watch/hear the entire presser. Clearly does not understand that Pete was the VP Ops OVER John Schneider... guessing is valuable as insight into the situation?!? Pete will be coaching elsewhere next year. Management tried to spin the firing as mutual to protect Pete and the org, but Pete is too honest.
Tys voice is like nails on a chalkboard man fuckin hell. Pete has not got past the divisional in YEARS. Terrible defense now for YEARS. Time to move on bro
That's my point exactly!!! There is nobody out there better than Pete Carroll available hands down. I'm pissed 🤬 Pete's always gonna be my coach.
Sad part is nobody wants to be in Seattle except us Washingtonians, Pete actually wants to be in water town!
Sad days but hoping for a good future
Would been cool to get his 15th year as coach but he had a heck of a ride i agree it's time for a change we need to have better seasons than last 3or 4 they have been horrible disappointments up and down ride!
People don’t realize Pete was President of football operations. He was Schneider’s boss. It’s always been like that. The chain of command was Allen Carroll then Schneider.
That was not the Brad Stevens route
Why are AJ's eyes wider than his ears? 🤣😂🤣😂
As a Seattle fan, this is a bad move, unless Seattle secretly has an All-Star candidate waiting in the wings. The defense has been bad for the last couple years and it seems like Pete does not like to fire coordinators. The current DC probably should never have been hired in the first place and he definitely should have been replaced by now. This season was a defensive disaster with some serious injuries on both sides of the ball. I do not understand the move or the timing. These are some really big shoes to fill and Pete Carroll is hands down the greatest coach in Seattle sports history, not just football.
It's Pete's defense as the head coach.
If you don't understand this move then you don't understand football. Multiple coordinators and still a bottom 5 defense ever since the LOB disappeared. Offense was always the same, this is a GREAT move, losing Pete's leadership will suck, but losing his ability to not adapt to the modern NFL won't. I agree, he is the greatest HC in Seattle ever, he will probably be a 1st Ballot HOF when he retires, which IMO should be now
@@KINGMARS413for real, these fans are clueless bro lol
Seattle was going nowhere with Carroll and everyone just pretends otherwise.
So, I looked at a sheet that showed the Seahawks cap space (1.2m) the players who are due big money and what the savings could be if cut pre-June 1st; How realistic is this scenario - the team cuts Diggs, Adams, Lockett, Dissly, (try to restructure) Geno's contract (or release him if he refuses), cut Okada, O'Connell, Whitaker, Bumphus, Morris, Thomas, sign Leonard Williams and Jarran Reed, keep an eye on the Justin Jefferson situation and potentially pursue him in FA and draft somebody (like Nix or Penix) giving that QB an arsenal of talent with Metcalf, JSN, Jefferson, Walker, Charbonnet.. I know the off-season is heartbreaking and these players I mentioned are more than adored and appreciated in Seattle, but if the Seahawks are legitimately in a new era - I honestly think this could really shake the NFC West (as well as) the NFC as a whole. That offense would be high octane and exciting to watch (depending which direction we go with coaches). As for defense, they have two 3rd round picks and a 4th they could address in the draft or see who is available in FA. I honestly feel like the Seahawks are a contender and are just missing a few pieces and feel like this could be what propels them to elite status.
they underachieved is what happened been too long since we elevated
If I was a team in the hunt for a head coach, I would be calling Bill and Pete to try and hire them as my head coach. Especially if I might have a team that might be ready to go (heres looking at you Chargers).
Nobody is safe now that Harbaugh is available.
the pat mcafee show is so awesome lemme just dial someone up on video call no worries and so legit best show on anywhere , pete carroll was a awesome coach for seattle the seahawks will be ok but definately not the same
does the pete carroll situation let him collect his salary in seattle but still be able to walk away if he accepts a coaching offer? or would seattle block him?
Greetings humans! I come from a dimension where everyone is some kind of wood product. Our Pete Carrol equivalent is named Pete Barrel. He was the architect of The famous legion of brooms!
The Seahawks should've ran the ball on this Pete Caroll situation.
Looking for coach😂🔥🇨🇦🇺🇸
I would love to see Peterbilt go back to the USC Trojans where he built a dynasty. 😅😊😅
The Seattle sideling will not be the same.
The league and especially the fans always think they can solve problems with firings. Every time some team doesn't make it to a championship they will look for scapegoats. It happens every season.
He should’ve never called that play, that’s a HUGE smudge on an almost perfect career
We can get Dan Quinn. That is why the Seahawks made the decision they made. I think after the Dallas Cowboys season is over (divisional round) you will hear the next day that Dan Quinn has excepted the Seahawks head coaching position.
Pete moving at lightning speed is missing the finer points of the game. So he needs to slow his world down and pay attention to detail. Like your defense wasn't very good and your offense wasn't very good. Things like that. Jamal wasn't a good trade. Letting Ryan Neal go was not a good idea. etc.
Jamal Adam's trade wasn't on Pete thats on John Shnider 100% as the GM John is the one who makes all the roster moves, trades and such. And probably 75% of the draft is his picks based on his research and scouting.
Pete's Job is to COACH and that's both the players. And the staff/other coaches under him who he also needs to coach up. He's only able to work with what he's given in that aspect. Though I'm sure his input and analysis and voice was definitely involved in all matters from trades to drafts and free agency but at the end of the day those decisions are done by John Shnider 🤷
And yes the Adam's trade was atrocious seeing how its played out and Adam's couldn't stay healthy if his ass lived in a unbreakable titanium bubble his whole life lmao. Dude would find a way to injure himself and become unavailable 75% of the season 💀💀💀
Adam's is legit talented. But if he's NEVER on the field then it completely nullifying that aspect. Because the best Ability is... you guessed it AVAILABILITY 🎉. Which Adam's is only good for 4 games a year lmao.
But all the good draft picks. Free agency pick ups. Russell Wilson trade and Leonard Williams trade is from John who might actually be the best GM in the NFL to be completely honest 😅 if not that then a top 5 without a doubt. His draft classes on 2011, 2012, 2021, 2022 were all PHENOMENAL 💯🤯. Stacked with HOF players ane late round diamond in the roughs like Richard Sherman, Kam Chancellor, Golden Tate, Doug Baldwin, Tyler Lockett, Russell Wilson, Woolen, Mafe, Bobby Wagner and others who've played significant roles in our successful decade.
As far as letting Ryan Neal go that was fine. Especially when we brought in Julian Love as a replacement got pro bowl nominations this year and has been a BALLER especially the last couple weeks with the game sealing INT's and Pass Deflections he's made.
Caroll, Bilichik, Saban. One of those coaches is not old.
Carroll: 60% win rate and yet another winning season, tough call Hawks. We'll see.
I am heartbroken we will never get a Hard Knocks season with Pete Carroll and the Seahawks 😢
For Pete's sake, the man deserves to be able to write his own ticket.
I feel bad for Pete, amazing coach at all levels
One of the few coaches to win a natty and Super Bowl as head coach
Years of experience, great defensive mind.
Hope he finds purpose and happiness whatever he decides to do
No, the defense has been horrible for over 5 years. His zone defense hasn't adapted with time, and they have suffered severely. With that being said he's my favorite coach of all time. 😂
Lets remember thar Pete Carol is 72 and him accepting a head coaching job somewhere else, involves moving. Selling his home (potentially), buying a new house, having to learn a whole new city, a whole new geographical situation. I mean, its a lot for a young buck to head off to a new location. Much less, a man in his 7th decade.
Great coach Tomlin 🇨🇦🇺🇸
Real 😂news🇨🇦🇺🇸
I love Pete. Changes were needed for sure but I don’t think that a head coach replacement was the answer. I suggest that they hire him back and focus on their defensive problems among some others.
My 😂Jags are coming 🇨🇦🔥🇺🇸
Great guy. But he had nothing to add or change since the SB.
Allen Making "Coo Mo Pete" out like he's senile🤨 like the Prez of the United States "you can still be around just not Head"
Out of the loop here: what happened to Zito?