How to Paint an IBC Tote - Rainwater Harvesting DIY
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Today I'm painting some IBC totes for an addition to my rainwater harvesting wildlife waterer set up. In the video I'll show how I remove the IBC tote from the cage, prep it for paint, paint it, etc,. This is important to help reduce algae growth as well as protecting the plastic from UV sun damage.
NOTE: An alternative and perhaps a slightly more long term durable option would be the wrap the tote in a durable plastic. It works great and many have had great success with that route! But I prefer paint for its ease and the clean, finished look of the tote after its been painted.
And here are the links to the previous videos on my rainwater harvesting wildlife waterer set up.
Second version with 'rainroof' as collection surface:
• Rain Roof for my Rainw...
First version with tarp for collector:
• Rainwater Harvesting w...
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Very cool to see your daughter helping and even reversing the quad bike.
Yeah I like to get her developing as many skills as I can for this crazy world that we are all living in. I pray it starts getting a little more sane... shut I’m not holding my breath😬😂
The color is good. For algae - I always do a primer coat of jet black acrylic followed by white.
I wish I could have got by with just paint. I had to build a room so the damn bear won’t put holes in it.
What a difference letting the paint cure makes. A great lesson to be learned, as waiting to finish anything has always been my greatest weakness.
Mine too!!! Haha... as you could see that second one I painted and just wanted to be done with it... and the scraped corners just proved that I rushed it😂
even if you paint the IBC totes, the sun will beat down and crack the top of the container. Just do yourself a solid and wrap it
@@utubestalker.dotcom nope no light penetration through that paint.. it would take probably 10 years to start to crack
I just ran across your channel, and am definitely subscribing, not just because of your great instructions regarding these totes, but honestly, the fact that your doing this for the wild life, and showing your daughter what a truly caring and good man should be like, many blessings to you both...
that is so cool that you supply water for the wildlife... I commend you for that. Our planet needs more kind people like you. Wildlife has a hard enough time surviving without being hunted by humans.
Thank you! No, the waterers around my property are not for hunting. They are for the benefit of the animals that come to use them. As well as my dog and a couple neighbors dogs who use them as well.... free to all😂
But I will also say that I do hunt though.... but totally respect that you might not agree. We utilize the meat and participate in what is sometimes referred to as ‘fair chase’. I don’t hunt over water or feed or anything like that. Most often I use a traditional bow. And follow all game management laws. In the great majority of states, animals like deer, elk and other ungulates are managed to allow for growing numbers and if you compare the heard populations to 25 and 50 years ago nearly every state had much higher populations now.
But I understand you may not agree and I respect your opinion just the same. Thanks for watching and I hope to have the upgrade video to my wildlife waterer set up by this fall or winter. Hoping to see some cool footage of some of our animals that are unique to Arizona, like coatimundi or javelina🙏🙂
I'm glad your doing this for the wildlife, it's been a very dry winter and the animals will need this !!! Bravo !!
It sure has been dry... praying for better rains in the hopefully near future😀👍
awesome info as usual, your daughter is growing up mighty blessed
Thank you. I searched online on how to reduce or keep algae from growing inside a tote tank. I used a thick black plastic to wrap it up for now but eventually I want to spray paint it. I like your idea and clear description on how to best care for plastic totes. Thanks for making water available for the wild animals!
I like the color you chose for the desert. 👍
Blends in well with our environment here😀👍
I love your videos. So awesome that you think about the welfare of the wild life around you. Also including your daughter in your projects is great. What an education she is getting.
Great video Joe! Love the hybrid shorts/pants.
They are my 50/50 pants. 50% ventilation and 50% protection😂
wow so kool that the animals found that little dish!!! amazing! they are probably all talking about it!
They can smell water for quite a distance. Pretty incredible they can find it though😀👍
Party animals will always find the bars, lol!
@@demesrvl6761 nice!!!!
Great job, this will do the trick for our umbrella plastic bases that have faded terribly and thank you for sharing.
Thanks! A little paint will make them look brand new probably!!
@@homesteadonomics it worked out great, just needed to scuff them up, cleaned well and hit them with the the Rust-Oleum camouflage paint. It covers extremely well and I only had to do two coats to get the look that my wife, “The Boss” wanted.
I just picked up my bed and the paint to paint the (totes). Thanks for all your help. Appreciate your videos.
That's so neat, love the footage of the wildlife. Your such a great dad, kinda jealous.
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Thank you! It really is cool to see all the different animals come in! And hopefully when I get some new cameras I’ll have some other animals to show.... like maybe some javelina and coatimundi😀👍
@@homesteadonomics looking forward to your upcoming videos!
@@homesteadonomics , I caught a ringtail in my car a few weeks ago. It was very cute and I think it was eating a bird it caught inside the engine compartment. It was full of feathers.
It's very nice to see you and your family working together. I have a garden on a hill in the woods, and it's always a chore getting water up there. I've been reviewing your videos and planning a rain collection system with my dad. Also, I really liked that tan color for the tank, too.
That garden sounds really cool! Perhaps a little roof/tarp set up to collect rain in an ibc tote would be in order. Especially if you get consistent rain.... you Might only need one🤷♂️😀👍
@@homesteadonomics thanks for the reply and the suggestions!😃 yea, we were thinking of using the area under the water collection roof/tarp to keep firewood dry. We have a lot of dead ash trees due to the emerald ash borers in that part of the woods. 🌳🐜
Great color choice!
Thanks! I love this khaki color for these tanks🙏😀
Since you removed the tank out of the frame, you could use a roller for a much quicker layered application. It is actually much faster and easier to roll the paint than to spray it and the finish looks neat. Not to mention that you don't need to worry about wind and overspray.
You probably already know, but when using numerous cans of paint,the spray handles you can buy for spray cans work great!
We always enjoy your videos! Your daughter is adorable and such a cool kid. Thanks for sharing your cool projects...and for caring for the wildlife in your area. Teresa & Mark
Gonna have to show this to my dad, he uses these totes for watering our cattle and garden.
They really are super useful!! Sounds like your dad is putting them to good use😀👍
Love the animal footage and it's very nice that you expanding their water supply.
It must be hard to think of more projects that benefit you and your land without putting a financial burden on your household.
One possible idea for another video, I have little experience in home construction such as the topics you do, but I would love to do it some time. Anyway, could you do a video of what sort of screws you use for joining metal to wood, as in the workshop battons, and also perhaps the use of the pocket hole device and setting it up etc. Might be a bit boring to some of the more skilled viewers but I for one would find it extremely interesting.
Thank you! And about those video ideas... they are good! Useful and it would be a less input video in that I wouldn’t have to build something for a video. As it is now, my videos take days or weeks for each video. So, some simpler ones would be welcome👍😀
Dude... the water level idea, genius! So simple yet you’re the only one I’ve ever seen do that. GREAT idea! Thank you!
A lot of work, but worth it! Happy to see you have such good help! Great Video! :) :)
She’s the best helper I could ask for... even if she is does sometimes climb on the things I’m lifting😂
Interesting thanks for sharing your adventures. It was a major cool thing to see the wildlife utilizing the water trough.
Yes, I’m hoping to get some more updated footage once I get some new cameras. We’ve got a lot of unique wildlife here that I haven’t yet got on camera since these older cams stopped working.
Love the boots
very good iniciative for the wild life!! good job
Thank you Guillem 😀🙏
Cool bro! And is wonderful give some water to the wild life! Congrats!
Thanks for checking it out😀🙏
Very cool and a 'good on ya' for enriching the local fauna!
Thank you!
I do indeed get ideas every time I watch you.....
Seen a few people paint these black, makes no sense being it will heat that water right up, you got a nice natural color 👍
The black will likely keep more light out but the heat would be an issue for sure...plus tan just looks better in my opinion😀👍
@Charles Brainard Gotcha great idea😉
as always, great job! that waterer is so sweet...i didn't see for sure, but if you don't already, you should put a big stick in there so that small animals that fall in can get out again.
I’ve got a small rock on the inside of the bowl is that is above the water line. Not visible in those old clips at the end because it took me fishing out a couple of mice to remember to put something in there for them to get out😬. But there is something in the now😀👍
The tan colour is a good one for those totes in your wild life area there for certain. Great stuff as always! Cheers!
Yeah, I really like how it blends into our natural landscape too!
Thanks, this video is great timing because I am planning on setting up a couple of these totes for rainwater harvesting this summer. Appreciate the tutorial!
Great video. Thank you for the tips. I am doing the same for two 275 gallon white totes to collect rainwater off of the greenhouse roof. My greenhouse will contain an aquaponics system.
I love the camo look and how it blends into the background! Perhaps even paint some real camouflage patterns in a darker colour on it? Give it a try on one of them!
Yeah they’ve got a great range of tans, browns and earth tone greens that go really well together👍😀
Had to laugh at the look your dog was giving you as you "drank".
When I was much younger, I helped the Texas Bighorn Society install drinkers in the Davis Mountains. It is amazing how much wildlife comes to them. If your water level was closer to the top of the bowl, you'd probably get a lot of bird activity, too!
Love your videos and the life you have created!!
That’s awesome to hear! I have been wanting get involved with one of the guzzler projects for the AZ big horn sheep society.
As for the the upgrade to my current system with these IBC totes I think I’m going to adjust the water level as you mentioned... or perhaps get a larger bowl to allow for a little more usage. This one will only accommodate one deer to drink at a time and percolates the refill very slowly🤔. Of course if I think too much in it I might end up painting a 4th IBC tote and extending the roof catchment too.... and I told my wife it would be a simple ‘quick’ project😂
@@homesteadonomics LOL, there are no "small" projects!
Larger bowls would probably mean more IBCs, lol..
I know you live in the desert, but does your rainwater catchment system also harvest humidity/dew? Or does that evaporate before it gets thick enough to collect?
👍 Joe, nice setup for the critters!
Thanks Daniel! I can’t wait to get some new cameras and see if I can get some footage of some of our more unique desert animals like javelina and coatimundi’s😀👍
Instead of painting it, you can use a black plastic pallet bag to cover it (the pallet cover bags are rated for one year in direct sunlight and cost about $3 each. You buy them in a roll of 50 from commercial supply stores like Uline. Much easier to wrap than to paint and the plastic container lasts much longer. The more the plastic container is in direct sunlight, the more microscopic plastic is mixed into the contained water. With that many bags, you can slip one on from the bottom and tape to the tote, and then slip one on from the top and tape down.. that way when water comes in from the top it won't fill up the bottom bag.
Thankyou for giving back to nature,well done sir
Cool video. I love how your daughter get's to drive at the end. LOL, I remember riding motorcycles with my dad like that.
Good video! Thinking about getting some ICS totes, I didn't realize the tank could be separated from the cage that easily. That's a game changer for me, as far as getting them into my back yard (I will have to put them over a 6' fence lol).
Nicely done Joe! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
Thank you Fred!
Very cool, we didn’t paint or cover ours & we hear a cracking noise when we push on them now.. hopefully we can save them from further deterioration with some paint!
Thanks for the vid! 👍
They actually will hold up really long without paint. But it depends on when it was made. I’ve heard some have UV inhibitors in the plastic and some don’t. But I haven’t figured out a way to determine that through the stamping yet🤔. I’ve got one that has that cracking sound on the top when you push but the rest don’t have any cracking sound and they are all about the same age. Some I’m guessing that one is one of the non UV plastics
Im so thankful. To you bought land im gonna start to try to do some of things myself fingers crossed
Awesome ! Looks good 👍🏼thank you helping the wild life. They look happy 😊
Very nice . I loved .
Thank you!
Alright Joe, you made hoisting that tote up and down out of those metal supports look a little too easy. So either I need to start doing more push-ups and chin-ups, or if you happen to be driving through northeast New Mexico anytime in the near future, stop by and lend some of your muscle. LOL! I'd love to do something like this for my parents up on the New Mexico-Colorado border for all of their deer and turkey, but I know the moment they see a mountain lion drinking out of their water, they'll never leave the house again. Great stuff as always.
I bet the paint works better than black plastic wrap, because your khaki paint will reflect some heat. It looks better too. Thanks for posting this! I'm going to consider getting one or two of these totes.
HELLO from las Vegas Nevada, that is a good idea, I have more ideas for water conservation on the Desert, GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Thanks for checking it out! And may God bless you and your family as well😀🙏
Very nice Joe. Your going to be the talk amongst all the animals, Joe. All of them are going to be spreading rumors on how Joe is so nice to us building us water tanks..... lol....
I'm just playing with you hun.
I had back surgery a month ago, so I have to so being so so mezn.... lol.... just getting caught up.
You & family have a wonderful day & be safe,
Chris from Missouri
Great to hear from you Chris! But sorry to hear about the back surgery. Are you healing as expected so far? I’ll say an extra prayer for an expedient recovery for you😀👍
@@homesteadonomics thank you Joe. I sure appreciate it. Your so kind my stainless steal friend...... lol...
I guess I'm healing fine. Parts that was hurting stopped, but I've found new, really old, spots I didn't know that was hurting just as bad or worst start hurting. I guess when your a child you don't think to much of what your putting your body through when you slide into home plate, for the win of the game, & rip all that meat off your leg & can't put your jeans on for weeks during softball season, or the ball is getting ready to go out of bounds & you dive for that basketball & throw it to the other team mate to win the game. Oh how we loved putting are bodies through hell just so we didn't have to run a mile the next day, bc we where to slow..... lol.... or the time right before we was going to Red Lobster, the only place we could get shrimp in the 1970's & 1980's, bc we live in misery Missouri & that was the only so called freshest stuff for being a land lock state, I was playing out in the front yard kicking the ball around, no it wasn't soccer back then. We didnt even know what soccer was back then, we just thought the land of England/people over seas played, it was just kicking the ball around, & I slide, in my nice new red jeans... lol..., on the grass & had to go to the ER & get stitches in my knee, bc of a dumb rock had to have a sharp edge on it & ripped my jeans, now I was cool though I thought, & ended up being late for the shrimpies just that one time out of a hundredth trip of many times going to the fresh/frozen (lol) taste like rubber now that I've tasted FRESH SHRIMPIES, & Dad was mad bc we was late to eating dinner that night.
Oh yes now I can feel ALL thoughts spots that I didn't know hurt now after I've gotten my back all soldiered up.
Put hey you only live once as a kid & you know we all new everything....... lol........ can't have any regrets, oh no..................
I guess that's why I didn't get really mad @ my kids when they didn't slide into them bases or dive for those basketballs when they played sports. BC I'M PAYING FOR IT NOW AFTER ALL THOSE YEARS...... BADLLY!!!
Oh I'll be oh right. But I'm not telling my husband I'm doing better, bc he'll quit cooking, doing laundry & folding it, dishes, oh shoot he'll stop EVERYTHING! And I don't want him to quit just yet..... lol..... I know, I'm being sneaky & I love it... hehehehe hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. 💯REAL!!
Well Joe thanks. You & your family be safe,
Chris from Missouri
Thanks
Believe it or not, I am going to paint my totes soon. They had algae growing in them, so I have to make them impervious to sunlight.
Thanks for sharing!
Hey Tim, yes the paint should help with the algae for sure. The darker the paint the better light blocking... of course the more heat it could collect too. This khaki doesn’t completely block out the light but does help. But perhaps a darker tan or brown, etc might work as well.
@@homesteadonomics I was thinking 2 coats would do. One matte black and some lighter color on top.
@@homesteadonomics I just used 7 cans of spray paint which cost $6 a can and it took well over an hour. There must be paint you can roll on! It would be so much faster and better to get a thick coat. I only did one tote and have 2 more to do. So Im either going to cover them or find a good paint I can apply with a roller. Im seeing a lot of light through the paint so I need better light blocking. Black plastic sheeting will look ugly next to my house but it might be a better solution.
Thought you'd be interested to know that my cat was mesmerized by this video up until the painting began. Also, the sound was off. Then he got bored, and moved on to personal grooming. I, myself, will be painting kitchen chairs when I get around to it. There will be no video to record the event, unless someone wants to watch paint dry...
Haha.... cats are funny in what they find interesting😂
You should give Homesteading courses. Amazing work! Can't wait to retire.
Happy Friday to you, Joe.
And to you also😀👍
Wow. Great! Thanks.
Good idea
Thanks!
Great idea and execution!!
Thanks for checking it out Buddy!
Awesome video Thank you
Thank you for checking it out!
Thanks for sharing another video. Very helpful. Trying to work on the development of my first wildlife, rainwater, water station. A few questions. 1) Does painting prevent moss from growing inside? I like how you left the electrical tape to see water level. I am assuming that a small, unpainted strip will not allow moss or algae to grow? I am hoping so as I would really like to use the small strip to track water level. 2) Roofing panel for water collection. I am finding several different thickness's of roofing panels. Do you find that that if you use the thinner gauges, (29 gauge is what Home Depot sells) that if it is secured with enough screws, that it holds properly with heavier winds? 3) Do you you use galvanized roofing? 4) Lastly, when possible, I would love to see how you link the two IBC Totes together (in a future video). I have been trying to figure out how to combine 2 totes together (to get greater water capacity) so that the total gallons available increases for the animals.
Thanks again for making such informative videos. Looking forward to seeing more videos regarding your wildlife watering station.
Thanks very much.
From my plastic lawn chairs painting experience, the spray paint chips off soon. Better to get out the orbital sander and rough them up. Then after the spray paint cures in the hot sun, coat them with a sealer or clear coat. Could even use a primer after sanding should you be so inclined.
Yep, sanding and a primer would give it a better chance for sure😀👍 2:45
I think the tan color is allowing sunlight to penetrate the plastic to the water. I'm planning to paint my IBC tote with an undercoat of black followed by tan. Maybe place a camera inside the tote before the water gets in it so we can see how much tan (lighter color) allows sunlight to penetrate? Great videos! THANKS
Yes, I think the black base and tan topcoat is the way to go😀👍
Dry to the touch and cure are different animals. Dries to touch in 1 hr. to handle 48 hrs, fully cured 3-4 weeks. Its all on the can, no one reads it. And just from a different perspective, this job would be perfect for a quart can, tray and foam roller. Less cost, no overspray and a thicker mil on the surface. And they do make bonding primers that are great for plastic so any topcoat color is available. Nice project.
Nice little set-up !!!
Hi joe, it would be nice to see an update later on when it's in use and maybe see some animals using it...😊👍Wow, too funny because you read my mind as I was writing this comment prior to video end...lol😂
Haha... yeah I knew I’d get folks asking... until they saw the end. But rest assured I want to get some newer footage once I get some new cameras. I’m hoping to get some of our more unusual wildlife like coatimundi or javelina... or even a mountain lion that our neighbors have see recently😬😂
So Nice WORK
So perfect ideas
Proud of you
Great information on sun proofing that tote, Joe.
Rob
I live up in the Casa Grande, AZ area. We have a well and if needed we can haul water from Stanfield, AZ. I was wondering how your Rain Water Harvesting was going since our drought here in Arizona? I know the amount of rain we are getting here is not great compared years past. We are setting up a rain harvesting system but don't believe we will get very much out of it to feed our chickens, other animals and Garden. I would also like to thank you for your video on your raised bed gardens. We have built 4, 4X8 and will be building 4 more shortly. Thank you for your great informative videos.
Another fun video. The villain in most of my projects is time as well. I am retired these days and you would think time can just flow at its own schedule... nope, I get more impatient. Well, there is always touch-up. Another father/daughter experience. She looks very much at home on that. I’ve seen a lot of your wildlife water clips but what visitor, other than ‘man’ was the most surprising? Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Thom! Sorry for the slow reply too. I was camping with Marley over in that rocky place we did a video on about a year ago... lot of fun there.
And about unique animals coming in for water. Just the bobcat that I have on camera. But our neighbors saw a mountain lion recently😳. As for other animals that I’d like to get on camera would be coatimundi or javelina.... both unique desert animals👍😀
awesome
Thank for checking it out!
@@homesteadonomics LOL, I just watched it again. For some reason I haven't been getting notices when I get replies to my comments.
Something that might help if you are doing a lot. The make devices the will go on a paint can that will give you fan when you paint, not as nice as a real paint gun, but better than a regular rattle bottle nozzle
Great job!
Thanks!
Very cool. Thank you for sharing
Lol the last of the wildlife getting a drink 👍
😉😂
Nice trail cam.
Is the video having any technical issues? It’s been showing 2,800 views for almost four hours now🤷♂️🤔. Anyways, thanks for checking it out guys😀🙏
I didn't have any technical issues. Thanks for the video, looking forward to the next one.
It does not show up on your home page under recent uploads - but does show up under the videos tab.
@@dereklyons6885 thanks Derek!
@@rebelyell1580 yeah it usually takes about a day before it shows up in recent uploads. Not sure why.... but it was strange as it was kinda frozen for about 3.5 hours....no new views or likes/dislikes... kinda strange
Shows 3.5K views currently on my app.
Rustoleum makes a cheap plastic spray gun that clips on the top of the can and works similar to a hplv spray gun. Makes the job so much easier/comfortable. js
And raising your little girl right!
This is very timely! I need to get some IBC totes to finish out my rainwater catchment system. I was really wondering what was the best way of keeping light out of them.
A black plastic wrap will keep more light out than tan paint like this but for my wildlife waterer I prefer that it doesn’t get as hot. Thanks for checking it out😀👍
You make good videos
The look is much better with this color
Paint started to flake on mine. I'm thinking I didn't give it enough cure time. I may try that again.
I was also thinking about the possibility of coating one with flex seal and seeing how durable that would be.
Hmmm.... if it was flaking then I don’t think it was taking a good bond from the start. But the flex seal actually might be the way to go... I’d be interested to see how it does. You may start an IBC tote painting revolution 🤷♂️😀
Nice. But wouldn't the better approach be to fiberglass a very thing skirt around the metal cage? Just drape / stretch fiberglass cloth around it and use epoxy / polyester / polyurethane paint to create a shell. That way you also have a bit of insulation.
I'd also figure it would be better to have white paint to reduce solar heating.
Thanks for the video!
It would probably work very well😀👍
im in a waiting room. I watched this in thumbnail
mode with the captions. I hope you get monetary for it
When I spray w cans outdoors I use an umbrella to control the flow and contain the paint.
That "starbit" are called torx, :)
Yep, you are right.... I often create names for things that make sense in my head🤔. If you check out enough of my vids you’ll likely hear another one of my favorites.... “gription” As in, this handle has a lot of ‘gription’😂
Your daughter is AMAZING! tfs
Thank you!!!
Thanks.
I highly recommend Rust-Oleum's Universal Bonding Primer. Can't always find it in stores so, I stock up when I see it. Works amazing on adhering to surfaces that don't play well with spray paint.
Side note: If you want the most life out of your IBC tote, use an outdoor rated paint that has UV inhibitors or apply a UV resistant clear coat. Lighter colors are recommended in order to minimize heat absorbed (from UV) which will cut down on growth of algae & bacteria
Love the channel
Love this video!
Thank you!
Your helper is getting tall.
Yes, super tall! But that’s how both my wife and I were at that age.... quick to sprout and then tapers off in the later teens
Hopefully we'll get some rain soon.
well you guys are movin into your monsoon season
Sonoita here...more than half the forests are dead or dying and it’s been a very dry winter. Praying for rain to fill our totes and save what’s left. It’s gonna be a heck of a fire season folks...😢
Yep, hasn’t been a great year at all.... but I’m praying for a better monsoon and just trying to mitigate what we can for now🙂👍
@@cmdraftbrn Last year and this Winter were pretty much a dud. We've only gotten 6 inches in a year here.
@@livesoutdoors1708 Especially as grassy as it is there.
great idea pray for more rain this year in southern az 👍👍👍
We say our prayers everyday and hope there is more in the near future🙏😀
Glad you got them painted. I wondered why you didn't cover the open hole at the top while painting, though after the paint is cured it's probably fine if some got inside right? I like the color. Waiting to see some new footage of wildlife when you get the new cameras. :)
Yes, most of the harmful aspects of spray paint have to do with the aerosols and propellants. Once cured most of it is pretty inert😀👍
That turned out 👍
Unless you have very strong muscles, you can avoid straining your back by turning the cage facing you, and then simply slide the plastic tank in. To avoid scratching the painted side, you could put a large piece of cardboard or a sheet of plastic over the side where you are going to slide the tank in. It is not that heavy to bring the entire unit back to its upright position.
Muy buena idea saludos
It would probably go a lot quicker if you used roll in self leveling paint. You would also have a lot less waste and probably cost less as well. Also would get better coverage. Just a thought.