A small note here: Jamieson Price NOT being on top of things for once is actually really fun for me to witness. For Ace Combat fans like us, he's usually one step ahead of the player. For the poor Phantom Thieves, he's a whole Usean continent behind Joker. Also, how long 'til Akechi/Totally Not Raiden realizes he's been bamboozled? Probably not 'til it's too late!
He figured out Joker and Futaba were Phantom Thieves, which is impressive in itself, but we still had many tricks up our sleeves, too many for him to find out! Thankfully he'll keep supporting us through it all, what an amazing guy! :D Well if we play our cards right, Akechi's gonna stay in the dark for a while...
@@dndx0527 Hmm, if it can help, I have recorded the entire palace as part of my run, maybe you can look it over and see how I handled the part that causes you issues. ruclips.net/video/eL8rxXRN0yo/видео.html
I think the main trigger is that you need to hear Mona in the Metaverse before you can hear him in the real world. Though that means either there's a plot hole with Akechi, or he was already spying on the Phantom Thieves early on and had seen Mona talk before the pancakes scene.
^ Sae never heard Morgana talk or saw him in the metaverse, so she remains unable to understand him. In addition, Sae wasn’t even in the metaverse for very long, so there was almost no chance of her being exposed to anything that would make her “more open” to the possibility of animals talking (i.e. any shadow). Akechi on the other hand HAS been running around the metaverse, and has probably encountered enough shadows for his cognition to be open to Morgana’s speech - not to mention any possible spying he did on them beforehand, which he was likely fully equipped to do.
When would he have gotten the chance to? Given akechi’s true nature he would have just killed morgana there and remember morgana got captured by Kamoshida and he is no where near as smart of strong as akechi
@@goodthanos9435 I mean, Akechi would have started looking into things when the news about Kamoshida spread beyond Shujin. At which point, Morgana was hanging around MC, Ann, and Ryuji most of the time. Akechi also isn't the type to randomly murder someone on the spot just because. He's borderline insane, but he's not that kind of insane (not until close to the end, at least). Shadow Madarame is the first to mention someone with a black mask, but that doesn't mean that Akechi hadn't already been looking into the phantom thieves by then. It's an easy enough conclusion to make at that point that the phantom thieves are a potentially troublesome element, but not one that required him to deal with them directly. So he reported his findings to Shido and the SIU director, and they formulated a plan to have the phantom thieves effectively offer themselves up to be eliminated - the leader (who akechi would recognize as the most powerful) first, then the other, weaker members later on when they had no one to lead them.
I’m really happy they voiced Futaba giving the full explanation!
It's a really nice thing to have for sure!
I find it funny that when Sojiro asks "Is this for real?" and Then Akechi say "Yes" during the recording. 10:34
It is indeed pretty funny!
"He's maintained a negative stance toward the Phantom Thieves and has gained tremendous popularity."
That's a con man talking. I should know.
Politician and con man are often synonymous, after all! :P
A small note here: Jamieson Price NOT being on top of things for once is actually really fun for me to witness. For Ace Combat fans like us, he's usually one step ahead of the player. For the poor Phantom Thieves, he's a whole Usean continent behind Joker.
Also, how long 'til Akechi/Totally Not Raiden realizes he's been bamboozled? Probably not 'til it's too late!
He figured out Joker and Futaba were Phantom Thieves, which is impressive in itself, but we still had many tricks up our sleeves, too many for him to find out! Thankfully he'll keep supporting us through it all, what an amazing guy! :D
Well if we play our cards right, Akechi's gonna stay in the dark for a while...
29:49 it was at this moment Sae Niijima discovered her sisters intelligence surpassed hers
Makoto has grown a lot while Sae was busy looking at other things, and she finally got to see it!
Pretty much everyone they all had some part of the plan
Oh I can't wait to get to this scene! If only I could get past Futaba's palace.
What's the part that gives you trouble in Futaba's Palace?
@@MrLemmy82 the Chamber of Rejection, specifically those damn Anubis gems.
@@dndx0527 Hmm, if it can help, I have recorded the entire palace as part of my run, maybe you can look it over and see how I handled the part that causes you issues.
ruclips.net/video/eL8rxXRN0yo/видео.html
@@MrLemmy82 I will. Thank you.
Update: so I finally beat Futaba's palace and have just started Okumura's. Thanks for the help.
8:15 shouldn’t Sae have been able to hear mona? She has been to the metaverse and akechi heard mona without seeing mona so?
I think the main trigger is that you need to hear Mona in the Metaverse before you can hear him in the real world. Though that means either there's a plot hole with Akechi, or he was already spying on the Phantom Thieves early on and had seen Mona talk before the pancakes scene.
^ Sae never heard Morgana talk or saw him in the metaverse, so she remains unable to understand him.
In addition, Sae wasn’t even in the metaverse for very long, so there was almost no chance of her being exposed to anything that would make her “more open” to the possibility of animals talking (i.e. any shadow). Akechi on the other hand HAS been running around the metaverse, and has probably encountered enough shadows for his cognition to be open to Morgana’s speech - not to mention any possible spying he did on them beforehand, which he was likely fully equipped to do.
When would he have gotten the chance to? Given akechi’s true nature he would have just killed morgana there and remember morgana got captured by Kamoshida and he is no where near as smart of strong as akechi
@@goodthanos9435 I mean, Akechi would have started looking into things when the news about Kamoshida spread beyond Shujin. At which point, Morgana was hanging around MC, Ann, and Ryuji most of the time. Akechi also isn't the type to randomly murder someone on the spot just because. He's borderline insane, but he's not that kind of insane (not until close to the end, at least).
Shadow Madarame is the first to mention someone with a black mask, but that doesn't mean that Akechi hadn't already been looking into the phantom thieves by then. It's an easy enough conclusion to make at that point that the phantom thieves are a potentially troublesome element, but not one that required him to deal with them directly. So he reported his findings to Shido and the SIU director, and they formulated a plan to have the phantom thieves effectively offer themselves up to be eliminated - the leader (who akechi would recognize as the most powerful) first, then the other, weaker members later on when they had no one to lead them.