@eboston7591Charles was married to Lori for 12 years and helped raise Tylee from the age of 4 years old, of course the Woodcocks knew her. You’re making no sense.
Bagnuolo, this unfortunately has happened too often. Police have been warned in many cases like this, but nothing was done until after the person ends up dead. 😢
Yes, exactly. I felt so upset when I learned how he tried to engage the family and friends and no one gave a damn. They're all at fault as well. I hope they do feel guilty because they are!!!
Yes, for him to be actually denied help from the police dept is so completely astounding to me, they treated him like a 13 year old boy making false allegations about his mother, that was so shocking to me the police were so completely on loris side when y to hey we’re interviewing her it was a embarrassment to that department, those cops were giggling like school girls, if she would have been ugly( which she actually is when she has no makeup on ect…) they would have paid attention to his(Charles) claims of her going to kill him s but more serious I’m sure, but instead they talked to her like she was a good friend and he was a jealous husband, which was so out of line, even when Alex shot Charles the way the police treated that crime scene was a circus, no crime tape , they let Alex sit on the curb, they didn’t even hand cuff him, he could have had a gun on him, they never even searched him, they never even tried to save Charles with any type of cpr it broke my heart, in fact I think the cop kicked Charles with his foot as he laid in his living room to see if he was dead , like he could tell through his f en shoe or something, it was a very disturbing scene , especially when Lori got back and started laughing with the police , that really took the crime to a whole other level, the police in that town are like loris best friends and if I’m correct I do not think they even knew her, Charles did not have a chance with cops like that and he even told the cops a few weeks ahead of time that she was going to kill him wtf is wrong with that picture 🤪is it just me
The Arizona police should be investigated! Watching Charles telling the police his fate and them NOT taking him seriously & they lacked steps to protect him- astounding! THEN BELIEVING Alex & Lori also astounding!! Absolutely incompetency!!!!
I know- I was thinking those exact thoughts as well! It’s just unbelievable! I guess Charles wasn’t a good-looking enough blonde flirtatious woman to get himself heard…. 🤨
@susan lawrence ikr I was thinking the same thing.. like seriously ridiculous and I agree that they should be investigated because that's a big ball to get dropped from a police department
I think Charles wasn't taken seriously because he was a good looking man, fit, etc. Certainly, some little blonde was just mad. Since he was male, he wasn't listened to.
@@Angel..Dancer Absolutely WRONG. I have been an attorney for years and married to an attorney who was an officer while in law school. It is NOT the job of the police to protect citizens from harm. Googke the question...Are police obligated to protect citizens from harm. They are NOT Try again when you actually know what you are talking about.
I wonder how those cops feel now. Charles told them he was in danger and next thing he's dead, two kids are dead, a woman is dead. If they had acted sooner, it could all have been avoided.
Repeating her delusional words to the police probably had them seeing him as the crazy one who was out to bad mouth his wife. They had no idea how far this was going to go :( Very sad.
It's amazing this show is 2 years old but depicts the current situation almost perfectly. Good for Charles Vallow for changing his beneficiary to his sister. Best move he could have made. I would have loved to see Lori's face when she realized she wasnt going to be a millionaire! May Chad rest in peace.
Maybe if Lori had known she wouldn't get Charles insurance money she wouldn't have conspired with Alex to murder him in cold blood. She needed money to fund lifestyle with Chad Doughboy. He is certainly too dull to keep her in style C did. Extreme respect for Charles and condolences to his family.
Casey Anthony, as evil as she is, doesn't hold a candle to this case. The adults that knew what Chad, Lori and Alex were up to, and did NOTHING is absolutely despicable. And although I take comfort in the belief that Charles, Tammy, JJ, and Tylee are at peace in heaven, I still can't wait to watch Lori and Chad pay for this. Alex got off easy, in my opinion. And I surely hope both Melanie's, Ian, David, Zulema and quite possible Lori's mother and sister also see justice in this lifetime.
Definitely Mel p needs to get locked up as she would’ve killed two of her children since she was told by her “uncles” that two of her children were dead... she’s the most involved, her, Ian, zulema, Julie Rowe should all be charged with something and loris mother should be charged with making a false statement to authorities after saying she had talked to Jj after he was already murdered by her daughter!!
@@carlosidk2565 and Mel p she shot at Brandon her ex husband so she tried to kill her ex husband and her kids to and she got married right away after she left Brandon just like lory did Mel almost did it but Brandon was smart and moved away with the kids thank God other wise they be dead as well
The freaking cops who did NOTHING about Charles being murdered just makes me sick!!!! This whole story makes me sick!!!! If these two don’t get convicted I will have lost all faith in humanity 😣😔
I Totally agree Charles was on Police Body Cam Begging for help saying his and the children's lives were in be Danger But No one listened or helped And now they are all Dead Pure Evil is what Lori and her False self proclaimed prophet are
I agree..if ever a murder was preventable..also if the police would have taken this threat seriously it is very likely not only charles but tammy, jj, and tylee would be alive right now..I found it more that odd the man charles called bishop was the best friend of jason mow... the same mow that spoke at those preparing of people events and also the same jason mow be seal lori and chad ( 2 adulterers) in the temple claiming to be the reincarnated maroni...
His story made no sense yet they couldn't be bothered to investigate! As a matter of fact Lori had a pool party that same night in the home where Charles had been murdered earlier in the day. They need to explain themselves! Rest in Peace Charles
I wonder if in this AZ county, are there a majority of LDS in LE? Is this why they looked the other way when a man (brother-in-law) goes into his house to retrieve a gun, becuz he claims he was struck by a bat (by sister’s hubby), instead of calling 911. This is not self-defense, it is manslaughter. He choice to leave supposed outdoor altercation to retrieve a lethal weapon from indoors. Lazy AZ LE or complicit.
Exactly!And Charles was a semi pro baseball player,if he would have hit him he would would have at least knocked him out so he could at least get on there.
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I hope the lifers have a plan for theese two. Even prison inmates dispise this type of person. I'm SOOO glad that she didn't get the million dollars. What a witch.
@Boston Gal It is the job of the police to at least be competent, and they couldn’t even do that. It would help if they had a minimum baseline IQ of 75 to meet employment qualifications, but fell at least 10 points short, OBVIOUSLY. That’s all people want from law enforcement - basic competence. Charles didn’t get that, so more had to die unnecessarily.
@Boston Gal That explains your reflexive defense of cops who come from the shallow end of the gene pool. Not sure what the qualifications are in your part of the world, but in Chandler AZ brain damagd gets a pass.
That's a stretch! The children were already dead when the kids were reported missing. How is anyone to prevent something after the fact? Charles reporting the crazy religious threats, Lori was checked at a mental facility and I'm sure she manipulated that encounter. She obviously didn't tell them she was threatening to murder hubby or planning to murder children or anyone else. So many want to blame police for everything. Maybe you just have a problem with law enforcement.
@Christina, if a man reports people are threatening to kill him and then he winds up dead six months later, why should the police just take the killers’ statements and do no investigating? Especially since Alex had already tried to kill Lori’s previous husband? Had they investigated Charles’s suspicious death, there is a shot the kids would’ve at least been taken away from Lori before she could have them killed.
Charles was MURDERED! Why do people always say he “died” 🤔 If these people don’t get charged them our Justice system is a complete sham!! They murdered 5 maybe more people including 2 precious children!!
I love that Charles changed his life insurance benefactor at the last minute...I can imagine how pissed Lori must have been when she found out. She was really stupid though, she had been threatening Charles, doing her antics on him, hiding from him, keeping JJ from him, locking him out of his house, etc, and actually thought he would keep her on his life insurance? How dumb.
Imagine knowing you are in danger, the police basically ignored you, and you change your insurance policy to someone else because he knew he was in danger. Rest in peace, Charles. You, Tylee, JJ, and Tammy didn’t deserve any of this 😢 You deserved so much better, Charles. I hope the police who ignored your pleas for help think about you everyday and how they could have stopped this whole thing; had they only LISTENED AND HELPED YOU! 😢 All these lives lost could have been spared! It’s heartbreaking 💔
@@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468 Charles was accompanied by his LDS Bishop when he first went to the home the previous night. We never heard from that Bishop again.
This case is a great example of the adage, ‘The truth is stranger than fiction.’ It’s so strange no one would think it possible if it were a story. I can’t wrap my head around the things these people did, especially to the kids. The are beyond evil.
The devil got inside them. He played too much with the near death experien e and veil, god dont like ugly and liars, and he got punished and everyoke else too.
My heartbreaks for Tylee and JJ , Tylee was just starting to become a young woman of 17 .. she was beautiful and had her chance to rid herself of her evil mom and help JJ .. I believe Tylee knew the truth about Charles murder .. God Bless the children. 💕
Mother put tylee against charles talking about how he cheated when he didnt, when she was already cheating with chad. Didnt tylee notice how her mom got together with chad, so she mustve found out she was the cheater and to a married man. Lori thinking chad had money qith his fake novels. Why would a near death experience come out with fake novels about near death experiences...thats why the devil went into him and lori.
Leann Wilson I believe Tylee saw her mom and Alex kill Charles that’s why Lori had to have an alibi as to leave and be returning when the police were there , to look innocent , also why she had to get rid of Tylee , the poor girl , she was in a den of iniquity and couldnt get out or away from all of the evil. I hope that woman never sees the light of day!!
As they say, though...we cannot investigate until there is a crime. Charles said he was afraid "she planned to kill him". Once she did it, they could investigate....but not before. So sad and crazy that it could not have been prevented.
So much of the reporting on this case is due to East Idaho News. Y'all have done an excellent job and I am so impressed! Thank you for being integral to seeking justice for Tylee and JJ❤
I read his Grave Digger book and by the writing in it he was not very smart. That’s why I believe Lori was the mastermind of this whole thing. And with all probability Chad would have been killed eventually after she got a huge insurance policy on him. I still expect Lori to throw Chad under the bus and claim him and Alex killed the kids without her knowledge. Mark my words she will claim she thought they had hidden the kids for their own safety and she didn’t know they were dead.
Terra Riley It’s about when he worked as a grave digger. Some pretty telling stuff about burying bodies. He had experience. His other books were pretty juvenile stories, like religious romance novels. I couldn’t read those even though they were free on kindle. It’s called One Foot In The Grave. Even more creepy now.
@@FloraDubya Wow. He worked as a grave digger. That's gotta come up at trial, no? Unless they're focusing on Cox as the killer. That seems to be the thread. They don't have any hard evidence of how they died, but if they can pin them as influencing/manipulating Cox into it, they're as good as done. What do you think? I really worry about the state being able to get them for anything that would be judicious.. murder would be justice, and they don't have it. It's so frustrating!
Idk if you heard the phone call between Lori and her sister Robin,… but she completely handed it to Lori,… and was screaming, “You’re in Hawaii on the Beach? While you’re kids are missing!?” Literally. Her sister seriously said everything we all wanna say to her. She spoke for everyone
How come Chad Daybell’s books can still be bought on Amazon? I don’t think this would be possible in my country. They should be taken off the shelves asap in order not to influence other weirdos.
Well in the US money is all the country cares about. They often even let violent killers out on bond. Even Lori had her bond reduced to 1 million dollars after these murders
Bezos has no morals. The US government has no morals. We encourage people to hoard money by any means necessary no matter who is harmed along the way…this behavior is actually encouraged. You’d be shocked how much money and benefits get made off of cults and murder, yes even by the killers themselves.
Why did you just say Charles Vallow died? He was murdered. It truly makes me cry seeing Charles trying to get help from law enforcement. Maybe if they would have believed and helped him the kids might still be alive.
or, that a child that he helped raise showed 0 emotion when killed....wife of over 10 years throws pool party on day of murder at crime scene....they had not lived there that long.. do not think any neighbors are going to go to the new murder house...wonder who was in attendance..
They have a report and footage of Charles on police cam saying she has told him she will kill him, then when he turns up dead they don't do anything and just take their word for it?!?!? There's no justice in that!!!
That was crazy.. And Chads wife died in her sleep at 49.. Yeah sure.. When he talked with the police, warning that his wife has changed drastic/mental issues and belives he is taken over by Zombies and has threatned to kill him -and nothing is done..!? They obviously has murdered people all over the place and several people involved in theire madness -as her niese and what they did with her husband..
@Boston Gal Hmmmm, I'm not sure you know what the duties of the police are lol. One of the reasons there ARE police forces all around the world is to stop us from killing each other, so yeah, it IS their job to protect citizens from being harmed. Nobody expects around the clock protection but having been forewarned they shouldn't have discounted that he was murdered!! FFS, it's even in their oath - to serve and protect.
@Boston Gal Then what does it mean? "We believe that mainstreaming human rights-based approaches in law enforcement is the very embodiment of the PNP Motto, “To Serve and Protect”. More than just being enforcers of the law, we in the PNP are duty-bound to respect, protect, and fulfill the rights of citizens." I don't think YOU know WTF you're talking about!!! I do believe it is the right of every citizen not to be murdered, is it not?!? Irrespective, there should have been an investigation and there wasn't. The police dropped the ball on that one!
The police were so lazy in this case, it's so disgusting, they let Lori get away with what she did it is unbelievable. Three people are dead because of the incompetence of the police.
I don't understand how they didn't arrest Alex after he shot Charles. He shouldn't of had a gun due to prior jail time. The police messed up. They acted so strange and yet they didn't take them into custody. Such craziness.
The terms of his plea sentenced him to 90 days and several years of probation. If completed with no issues, the charge would be wiped from his record. He can now live as if he was never charged. As far as not being arrested, you can’t arrest someone for being weird. There was zero evidence the police could go off that countered Alex’s statement. Lori & Tylee even vouched for the earlier fight so there was little the police could actually do. And if you know anything about AZ, it’s very pro-gun.
Charles: My wife is nuts , she wants to kill me Alex : I shot Charles in the head Lori : Ha ha - wanna come to a pool party? Police: Nothing to see here
the 4th husband, Charles, been pleading with the cops for help. Yet, after his dead, no investigation of foul play. They believed his wife because she was a woman. Hope there's another lawsuit coming to the PD.
@@thedeepfriar745 They didn't, but they were still incompotent because a. they didn't take Charles' claim that she threatened to murder him seriously and investigate it and b. that they didn't look any further into Lori or Alex right after the murder when there were so many signs in their behavior that something was off. Even as a layman myself I could see that. The fact the cop just laughs along with Lori in the full clip is insane.
The husband before (Joe Ryan) died in suspicious circumstances and his insurance went to Tylee his natural daughter. Which means the money went to Lori. 6 deaths. Two husbands, two children, her brother, and Chad's wife. She's a black widow.
Don't forget the other possible victims who died under suspicious circumstances like Chad's neighbor who saw the bonfires in the backyard died of PE like Alex and Tammy plus Lori's child custody attorney died unexpectedly when Lori got mad overJoe Ryan getting partial custody of Tylee. I would loke to know the circumstances surrounding his sudden death and autopsy results but I dony know how to get that death certificate and cause of death. Then Loris oldest sister Laura died as an infant and Older sister Stacey Cox who died an early death and afterwords Alex stole her deceased sisters bank card and emptied out her bank accounts and credit card too. Theres also a girl that disappeared who Chad went to h.s. with her name is Kyplin Davis missing at age 17 when they were going to same school. Chad was a cemetery sexton at that point, so he knew how to dig a grave and maybe dig it back up and put her body in a pre- dug grave? He could hide a body in one of the graves if he was smart enough to cover it up well. Just a thought I have had early on in the case. Investigators are looking into Joe Ryan's death as a homicide and not natural causes especially since Lori was heard saying on a podcast she wanted to murder Joe but that she didn't want to do anything wrong and that she didn't have a murderous heart, when we all know Lori had a malicious, murderous heart, when we know Lori, Chad and Alex were all on a murderous heartless rampage to rid the world of all the zobies. However, his 5 kids were fine not dark like Loris kids. Chad gets visits from his kids they are alive, but Loris family are dead at her doing. Now no one but Janice her mom and Summer her youngest sister, who knew almost everything about the murders, especially Charles death; Summer offered to kill Charles if Lori didnt! Quote en quote, and Summer may have been next to get a pulmonary embolism!
@@vanceriddle4191Chad and Lori conspired to have Brandon Bordeaux murdered but Alex Cox and Melani Bordeaux attempted to shoot him in the head, but missed, thank God! I still think Alex drove and MB did the shooting. After being shot at, BB took off in his Tesla and they chased BB for a short distance, possibly trying to shoot him again. In my opinion., either of them could have done the shoo but it doesn't matter! Why is LE not enforcing the law with the murder attempt on Brandon! I still can't believe he let Melani have shared custody of their kids who were rated dark. These other children were on Chad and Lori's hit list as well. Melani was going along with these killings while aiding and abetting in these horrendous crime's! I hate that LE adds insult to injury letting another pretty blonde get away with attempted murder! This makes my blood boil and Melani could have stopped the kids and Tammy's murders! She should serve jail time for her crimes I won't put my lit torch, or my pitchfork down until MP is in prison too. Arizona LE don't act like they know how to do their jobs effectively. Either they don't get paid enough to care or LE is just lazy and don't care enough to investigate and do research on people involved in a homicide where no one vouches for the dead man on the floor, Charles! It's infuriating the cops just went along with the stories and all the inconsistencies.
Excellent accurate report. Thanks to Easy Idaho news. Nate was irreplaceable in his intervention reporting Thanks to both Nate's for that. Karen Morente
I have a lot of trouble with how Charles is described as having ”died”. The truth is that he was shot to death by Alex Cox. Call it what it is and stop covering for Lori’s involvement. It is like tossing sugar in to the sewer to make it look and smell a bit better.
I believe Court TV has a legal obligation in that they cannot say Charles was “killed” or “murdered” because it has not been proven in a court of law (Y E T).
My heart hurts each time I see Charles Vallpw talking to the police. I know police officers see and hear all kinds of things, but that one officer sounded like he couldn't have cared less and indicated that one of his statements was not a threat. Also, Laurie, with her cavalier attitude after a death, is so concerning that it's ridiculous. I wonder if we will ever see a conviction. It seems to be taking forever. RIP to those whose lives were taken in this horrible egotistical ideal.
I don't know why she's been married 5 times! There's nothing about her that's attractive! She is so ugly! They won't live very long in prison! If they do survive, they will have a miserable, existence!
I don't know which death was the most heartbreaking. It started with poor Charles, who couldn't get the help he was crying out for. That hurts. But then, the innocent children, and what they did to their bodies, unbelievable. Then poor, sweet, unsuspecting Tammy. I'm in shock over all of it. I pray for justice for the four wonderful souls that were taken by the real demon zombies.
Death is too good for Lowry and Chad. They need to be tortured like they did the 2 children. They need to feel every bit of the pain those children felt.
I'm thinking it's highly likely that she killed Joseph Ryan too. Or Alex did for her. He was Tylee's father, who was a healthy young guy who suddenly died of a apparent heart attack. Seem super suspicious to me. If he was embalmed and buried they should exhume him and see if they can get a pathologist to find out exactly how he died. especially considering how many other people have died that are connected to them.
@@loriburnip Yelp, I agree girlfriend. They need to exhume Tylee’s dad’s body and let the pathologist do their thing. Yelp, Lori was in on this whole saga of murders in the name of Jesus. I heard that Lori got away with stuff b/c she was pretty. I saw the bitch! She wasn’t pretty in the face at all. She probably had a killer body and knew how to flaunt it. That’s my take on that. Just think, the bitch was in Hawaii shopping for a wedding ring and wedding dress while Chad or Alex or both murdered her kids. I was tickled pink that Lori never got the money from Charles’ insurance policy. Charles left it to his sister. Lol! Smart move! For some reason, I kind of wonder how Chad’s children were treated. I think Chad killed Tyree and Alex rotisseried her putting her parts in a bucket. Makes sense Chad and Alex buried Tyree’s body. Yes, no doubt, Lori was in support of all these murders. Chad and Lori couldn’t wait to jump in the sack freely once his wife was murdered. This woman was perfectly healthy! What folks won’t do for money, sex and greed!
@@barbaramorgan5992 Yep I completely agree. As for Chad's kids they must have been treated ok by their dad because they're still supporting him and saying he's innocent. They think he was taken advantage of by Lori (god I hate sharing my name with that bitch) & they're claiming he was framed 🤦🏼♀️. It's sad that they're in denial, but I can see why they wouldn't want to believe it, he's their only parent left & they don't want to believe he's a murderer. They especially don't want to believe he murdered their Mom.
This is horrible and how the case keeps dragging on and hasn't started yet . the one thing that was good was Charles removing Lori from his life insurance . i heard the phone call she made& the shock in her voice! loved it! still doesn't make up for him being dead but he knew something was up!
I believe that's part of the reason they murdered the kids so soon. Maybe they would have kept them alive longer if they had gotten the insured money. 😥
they should have mentioned the fact that later that day Lori had a fplanned pool party at her house! YES! a couple hours after Charles had just been shot dead in her living room. unbelievable...
Not.aiding with her, but if she plannednthe pool.party..then it qas.planned.before that..if it.was earlier then charles wouldve.died. ormmaybe they.were.telling.charles. there.was.a.pool.party.so.he.think.peoole.were.going .to.be around.cuz.nobody elsw.was.around.
I was once convinced I was a mighty barbarian warrior from ancient, forgotten times. Them I turned 7 and wanted to be a Transformer. I guess Lori and Chad never stopped pretending?
It's not fair to compare reporters to police. News employees have a huge advantage that cops simply cannot overcome during an investigation: news employees tend to be at least somewhat intelligent.
So I have a question,,, Alex was a FELON, he done jail time for shooting Joesph Ryan in the Private’s, a convicted felon,,, when he shot Charles Vallow, WHY DIDNT AZ LE CHARGE HIM FOR OWNING A GUN????? Isn’t that illegal to own a gun when you’re a felon???
Unfortunately, he was legally able to carry. He was able to work out a deal following his parole...or some such legalese that I cant recall now. You'll have to look it up if you would like a more specific answer. Believe me, I asked the same question!
The terms of his plea allowed for the conviction to be dropped from his record after completing his jail time and parole. It was as if he never had the felony.
Thank you so much East Idaho News. Excellent documentation and an in dept coverage of this heart breaking story. It is a COURT TV Special indeed! May the two children and Tammy R.I.E.P.!
Charles is lying dead on the floor and she's joking and laughing with the cops. She's sick and heartless! I hope they find her guilty of multiple murders!
Cold blooded. She could have at least acted shocked that a killing happened in her house. That was pretty abnormal. Even if a stranger got killed in front of my house I’d be freaked out. She didn’t even seem concerned her daughter was going to have to see the body or the aftermath. What normal parent or even the Uncle would not try to shield a 16 year old child from a death scene? And it’s the child’s step father lying dead. Too cold all around.
That shows what a true narcissist this piece shit is., married for how long, raising kids, and sends her brother in to do her dirty work for while she’s standing outside joking about the neighbours to the cops ! Doh 🙄 absolutely disgusting. My heart 💖 goes out to all the innocent victims in this sad story !
She thinks her plan succeeded, that's why she's laughing with the cops and had a party that night. It must have been before she found out that Charles had changed the beneficiary on his life insurance.
I think JJ's family should sue the police department that took care of his father's death. How could they rule his death self-defense so easily. With so many thing happening. JJ and Tyle might be alive if only.
Apparently Alex was under investigation from the day he killed Charles..easy for LE to say now..in my area Alex would've been arrested then the investigation would go on..I totally believe the kids and Tammy would still be alive if Alex had been arrested that day..
@Tiny Princess When a cop violates your civil rights they lose qualified immunity- it happens all the time and people win thousands, tens of thousands on the reg, but it's the city not the cop that has to pay- It takes a year or 2 usually, but watch any cop watch video on here you'll see. Now regarding this case, idk how that would apply, seems like it was obvious the Varrow husband was murdered, of course the dumb cops went w it was justified- they're lazy af...I know, I have a few in my family. I also have a cousin who is a prosecutor in Chandler AZ of all places !!...crazy, I'll have to get some details from her.
@Tiny Princess Um...YOUR statement "Police have qualified immunity and you can't sue"...is what I was responding to..so you would be Wrong on that statement, absolutely incorrect. So, when proven wrong, you just change the topic?... Let me guess, you're a cop, or married to one- the cherry picking of points or facts when you're proven wrong, how cop like.
@Tiny Princess Married to an attorney-the experts on the Law, then misrepresent Constitutional Facts, and I'm the insulting one?...keep moving the goal post. You're Welcome, any time.
She not only allowed it. I believe she instigated all of it! She had her hit man brother & devil-driven husband doing all her dirty, evil deeds. 🤦🏼♀️ Colby is the sweetest! It breaks my heart for him & his little family. He wrote a tribute to both JJ & Tylee that is heart crushing.
Another example about police not being trained to help... If Charles would have been upset and talking loud the cops would have done something to him, not for him.....
@First Last what the hell are you talking about? have you never heard about that oath they take to serve and PROTECT? the fact that, more often than not it seems, they DON'T honor that oath doesn't mean they aren't OBLIGATED to do so. it is supposed to be like, the MAIN thing they are obligated to do. unfortunately, they would rather abuse, extort and kill.
And to this day she has also shown zero emotions about her kids getting killed brutally and buried in her new husband’s yard - still insisting on being addressed as his wife.
@@denisehood958 When a religion has a tighter control on the community, than the local police, many horrible things are swept under the carpet. The LDS Leaders told their members to not discuss the case, or watch anything online about it. That shocked me.
We agree😥💔 And please don't listen to liars who will say LDS people are this way, I promise we are not.❤ We are just as appalled as everyone else, perhaps more because it's so close to home for us. This tragedy hurts my heart terribly.❤
I didn't realize Melanie Gibb initially lied to the police. She doesn't mention that in the extensive interview she gave with Nate Eaton (who is such a fantastic investigative reporter, fighting for those kids!). I wouldn't lie to the police for my family, let alone a friend - and the fact it was regarding the whereabouts of children makes it especially heinous. I see now why she worries about how people may perceive her. My opinion has certainly shifted.
She thought at the time Lori was hiding JJ from Kay! She eventually figured it out and talked to LE and told them the truth. You should watch her testimony it’s very informative
I think it's weird she initially lied in her Dateline interview and her interview w/ Nate about this! She's so sketchy to me. I am grateful shes testifying though cause they probably wouldn't have enough evidence to keep her in jail without her.
Imagine for a moment the kind of family you'd have to be a part of when one of the members is accurately referred to as 'the family hitman'. It's so terrifying that those poor children wound up in that whirlpool the adults around them created. Awful.
Wait, so she got rid of the kids because she was mad Kay got the $$? There are no natural deaths in this story. None. Lori’s behind it all! Joe Ryan supposedly died of a heart attack just like Alex. Tammi Daybell “Just died🤷🏾♀️” per Chad. He also claimed she was having “heart problems”. So we’re to believe Joe, Tammi and Alex all coincidentally died the same way? You can bet your bottom $ there are no coincidences in this story. Alex had to go because he knew too much. Alex died the day before Tammi’s body was to be exumed. Coincidence? Not!!! Tylee was there when Alex killed Charles. Just listening to Alex explain what happened with Charles made no sense. Like why wasn’t he arrested? Then Lori and Tylee casually roll up like they just came from getting some Icecream when they were there when the shooting happened. Where’d they go? Oh aaaannnddd they tried to kill Melanie’s husband, Brandon. Melanie doesn’t seem right to me either! Lifetime is PISSED they didn’t come up with this story but are likely putting the movie together as we speak.
Monisha Rogers Of course. She obviously wasn’t interested in caring for his special needs. She even got rid of his therapy dog & took him out of the special school that he so desperately needed. There is also evidence she stopped giving him his medication & THAT’S why he was acting like a “zombie” that day in front of Melanie Gibb! What kid WOULDNT act out after she had his father killed, his big sister just up& vanishes & then she cut him off from his loving grandparents, as well!! She completely uprooted him, sabotaged his special care & then killed him when he started acting out because of it ALL!!!! It was ALL deliberate to either spite the Woodcock’s over the life insurance or to convince herself & her fellow cult members he had to go!! Whatever her reasons were, they were ALL evil intentions. It makes me sick to my stomach that they STILL haven’t been charged w/ murder. Even if she had her dead brother do it, they are STILL culpable as if she did it herself. This is ridiculous.
I read Chad upped Tammy Daybell's life insurance before her death. And listening to the phone call from Melanie Gibb to Lori & Chad Lori mentions not getting Charles Vallow's life insurance. You can hear Lori's bitterness in her voice. I took interst in this case listening to the posted video readings from Rev Donna Serafina. Chilling and accurate. #JusticeForTyleeAndJJ
@@dawndow6650 other countries to it sounds like... and I actually have a justice for Tylee and jj sticker on my back window.. this case has hit my heart since day1
Lori and Alex switched the beneficiary to Lori and Alex acted like he was Charles. Charles got an email from the insurance company informing him the transfer was made. Charles had the heads up and switched it to his sister.
@@laurawrld2097 yes and I've always wondered if hed told her, he and the the children would still be alive - not with her -of course - she'd be so pissed she just might have given JJ to the Woodcocks and thrown Tylee out, but we'll never know.
What is sooo sad is that if it’s true that JJ climbed up on to the cupboards and then the top of the frig, he was probably trying to get away from Lori because she was trying to force medicate him and kill him, he KNEW, and he was trying to get AWAY to save his own life. 😭
What a great news station. East Idaho is very fortunate to have the coverage of news that you supply. So thankful that we out here in Michigan (and the rest of the USA) get to see the coverage you supply. Thank you for such comprehensive coverage.
They have done great coverage, I agree. It amazes me that these people thought they could really get away with this evilness. Hey from Michigan too...✌
Obsessed with worldly desire and own judgement lead to self destruction and sadly the consequences involved others. Killing innocent people and claiming it a vision from God was blasphemy. RIP JJ and Tylee.
That's because it isn't god's word. If there was a god, there would be only one holy book and it would be clear as day and would never be up for interpretation or, this god does exist and he/she/it is a douche bag, not worthy of being followed or worshiped for allowing not only these two but all the so called evangelicals in Murika who are sexist, racist, bigots who have polluted and corrupted the US founding fathers vision of a country not bound by or forced to follow, stupid, ancient middle eastern myths and fairy tales. They were smart enough to realize that if they did not put into the constitution that the state and church should be separate because if it wasn't, you would get, what you have now and have been getting since and including Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes and finally, The Mushroom Dick-tator with the Jim Baker hair cut, who wears Tammy Faye make up, who seemed to have 100% support from the religious, evangelical, Christians !!!! If you still insist that the Bibble and/or all the other holy books were inspired by if not written by your god, then to all of you but more specifically the women who commented here and all those reading this, listen to your god ! And I quote from 1 Timothy 2 vers. 11 & 12 : 11..." Women should learn in silence, with all subjugation" 12..." I suffer not a woman to teach or to usurp a man's power. Women should remain silent". If that's to hard for you to understand, let me make it really simple for you women. That is your god, telling you, women, to " Shut Your Mouth and Know Your Role !" and since the Bibble comes from the Jews or inspired by the Jew god. Jews say that a boy, becomes a man at 12 to 14, so any woman who speaks or dares to teach a man 14 years old or older is committing a sin and will burn in hell for eternity, which brings us to my last point, at least in this comment. Why would anyone worship, believe and pray to a god who says love me or be tortured for eternity !? The only sin which is unpardonable is the sin of non belief, all other sins are pardonable or forgivable but not believing and not worshiping this god of yours is punishable by torture for eternity and you can never be forgiven !!!!!!
Julie Rowe is my aunt and I am laughing so hard at these comments about her, she’s so creepy and so weird and talking to her in person just makes you wonder how she can possibly be so delusional and messed up in the head
@@emilyrose8576 Lori said her friend had J.J., in order for her friend to be the last known person with him. Then her friend would have been on the line for answering the question where was he. She would have been blamed for his disappearance,
@@loisdavis4926 I agree Lois Davis, LVD seems like she has a plan to set up all her friends now, using the Religious card by using the terms dark spirits and zombies. She will throw everyone under the bus that she is allowed to. Horrible, Evil Mother From Hell!
Excessive agreeableness. Watch her interview. All she could say about the crazies' latest assertions was: "That's different." She even explains - You know how you want to believe somebody but you really can't even though you really want to? (No.) The first time she stood up for the truth was when Lori put her directly in harm's way. Even then she lied to police before deciding to get evidence to save herself. (Having had a 5 hour conversation with a relatively sane 'friend' - David Warwick? - which stiffened her resolve.) Note to self: Stick with the Gospels. ✝️
Well, look at the whole picture here. What people down there define as a "friend" is just another lost soul with kooky twisted religious propaganda determining how they lived life - twisted to suit each person's agenda. You wouldn't know if you were someone's friend one day and their murder victim the next day. We don't know what Lori said when she asked the friend to cover for her. Maybe she told her that JJ's grandparents were coming tomorrow and going to demand to see him so she wanted him safely out of the way for a few days. Who knows. Her whole life was a series of lies and deceits.
Thank you for the coverage of this case. The loss of all the lives in this case is heart breaking , all the victims , Tylee and J.j , may answers one day bring them some peace . May justice ( as much that could be) come.
the world is often taken-in by "optics" rather than by what is being said, what makes sense. Humans are social and so easily swept up by emotions. Is the main point of countless folk tales, etc. Individually we can rationally support those who are being rational and objective.
I always appreciate your videos and coverage of this case. I still want to know Tammy Daybell's exhumation autopsy results. I don't understand the hold up. It's been so long since she was exhumed. On another note, Happy Heavenly Birthday, Tylee. 💔
@@gsmith6026 I dint know how but I doubt luck killed Alex. Though if Lori was still considered his next of kin.... At the time they were not looking at it like Lori did....
In her words "that's nice" like r u kidding me ????? Lori,Alex and. Chad NUTS I would of took those kids if I was grandparents or aunts stating unstable and kept fighting for them
My brother has beliefs like this. Space,end of the world...he said he heard demon's in my voice. He is an alcoholic. He says he has powers. He says he has been chosen to fight the apocalypse. I don't feel comfortable being around him alone.
This has nothing to do with alcohol. He is mentally ill . Needs a mandatory psych hold . Stay away from him report it and don't mention alcohol. He is a threat to your safety and is in desperate need of a mental evaluation. That has zero to do with his addiction. When you mention alcohol to police they won't take it seriously
Why is Julie here ? She is just jealous that Chad choose Lori over her . She knew they were planning on killing Charles Vallow and left a weird coded voicemail for Alex Cox.
Tylee was killed because she knew too much and threatened her Mother & Chad's plan, poor JJ was autistic and she didn't want to be bothered with him any longer but was so selfish she wouldn't allow the Woodcock's custody. Sick, vile, evil people. RIP JJ & Tylee ~
there is your motive for the kids being murdered , she didnt get that million so she was gonna kill kays grand baby to make her suffer and Tylee had money lori now needed to live her lavish life style . This entire case is sad so many lives lost for GREED , God had nothing to do with it only the Demonic duo who used Alex to do some of the dirty work knowing Chad would end him as well like he did Tammy
I wouldn't put that past her. However, if she wanted to hurt the Woodcock's, she'd want them to know JJ was dead not hide it from them. Their motive could be that the children were witnesses to Charles' murder and had to be silenced.
@@StellaFl i have to disagree if she told kay J J was dead , she is smart enough to know she would be arrested . Remember this duo was about killing to support a lifestyle and image .Everyone who was killed had a source of money they wanted .
@@whocares9021 We agree on that, she couldn't tell them. I commented cause you said she killed them to make Kay suffer, she'd have to know they were dead to suffer, no?
I don't think this case would be so far along were it not for the incredibly good investigative reporting from the East Idaho News. I hope they get a journalism award because they deserve it.
“He switched his life insurance from lori to his sister” sister:”he did that cause he knew we’d end up with jj we didn’t ask for it!” No hun, he did that cause he knew what Lori was gonna do to him. She killed her ex husband and I hate how it gets looked over that the poor guy knew she was crazy and the little things like switching life insurance from the person you are suppose to love and take care of to your sister? I’m not buying it man.
If it helps, Ashlynn, I feel the same frustration. Charles tried raising alarms. He sent a link to Tylee by text that told about the dangerous religious sect her mother was in. He got Lori's other brother to try to talk to their church president to get Lori some help. He tried to get a psych eval for Lori and police told her how to get out of it. Lori is a beautiful narcissist who had many people in her control. If she hadn't had the children, maybe Charles would've walked away clean, but he wouldn't desert the children.
@Angelika Katarzyna SZALAS .. Exactly! She should be prosecuted !! She knew WAY TO MUCH and could have stopped many murders. The only reason she came forward was to save her own skin knowing " SHE WAS NEXT ". Did you notice that even during her coming out interviews she was still all LoviE DoviE with her messages to the two jailed? Oh. How much she still loves them and hopes they can be together in jail! WHAT THE ??? !!!!. She's just trying to save her own hide ... pig
Nate, you are a hero. If you hadn’t tracked them down in HI, the national media would never have picked it up. Great, great work!
When the grandfather said, “Kids, you know I love you. I want you home more than I want to breathe.” I felt that.
i wish lori’s parents cared half as much as him - they could’ve intervened and saved them from their crazy mom
@E Boston Tylee was the Cox's grandaughter. How did they "not know her"? They knew her well.
@E Boston That is the problem with using pronouns, no one knows what "they" you are referring to.
That hurt so much. I feel terrible for them.
@eboston7591Charles was married to Lori for 12 years and helped raise Tylee from the age of 4 years old, of course the Woodcocks knew her. You’re making no sense.
If Lori and Chad wanted to kill evil zombies, they should have started with each other.
Haha FR FR
🤣👐 preach lmao
That make sense...
Very true. I hope that they are harassed by zombies while in prison every day, all day long.
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I feel so bad for Charles. He tried to get help and no one helped
Bagnuolo, this unfortunately has happened too often. Police have been warned in many cases like this, but nothing was done until after the person ends up dead. 😢
Help usually comes too late. It’s so sad!
Yes, exactly. I felt so upset when I learned how he tried to engage the family and friends and no one gave a damn. They're all at fault as well. I hope they do feel guilty because they are!!!
@@nightwithout-stars1951 It's not nice to address people by their surname only.
Yes, for him to be actually denied help from the police dept is so completely astounding to me, they treated him like a 13 year old boy making false allegations about his mother, that was so shocking to me the police were so completely on loris side when y to hey we’re interviewing her it was a embarrassment to that department, those cops were giggling like school girls, if she would have been ugly( which she actually is when she has no makeup on ect…) they would have paid attention to his(Charles) claims of her going to kill him s but more serious I’m sure, but instead they talked to her like she was a good friend and he was a jealous husband, which was so out of line, even when Alex shot Charles the way the police treated that crime scene was a circus, no crime tape , they let Alex sit on the curb, they didn’t even hand cuff him, he could have had a gun on him, they never even searched him, they never even tried to save Charles with any type of cpr it broke my heart, in fact I think the cop kicked Charles with his foot as he laid in his living room to see if he was dead , like he could tell through his f en shoe or something, it was a very disturbing scene , especially when Lori got back and started laughing with the police , that really took the crime to a whole other level, the police in that town are like loris best friends and if I’m correct I do not think they even knew her, Charles did not have a chance with cops like that and he even told the cops a few weeks ahead of time that she was going to kill him wtf is wrong with that picture 🤪is it just me
The Arizona police should be investigated! Watching Charles telling the police his fate and them NOT taking him seriously & they lacked steps to protect him- astounding! THEN BELIEVING Alex & Lori also astounding!! Absolutely incompetency!!!!
@E Boston they certainly did NOT here in this situation!
What cop was it that told her how to get out of her mental evaluation that guy needs to be scrubbing toilets some place he's not fit to wear a badge
I know- I was thinking those exact thoughts as well! It’s just unbelievable! I guess Charles wasn’t a good-looking enough blonde flirtatious woman to get himself heard…. 🤨
@@copper4441 ikr 💯
@susan lawrence ikr I was thinking the same thing.. like seriously ridiculous
and I agree that they should be investigated because that's a big ball to get dropped from a police department
I would love to have seen the look on lori's face when she found out she wasn't getting the million dollars. That is so fitting. She got NOTHING
YESSS!!!!!!!
But she did get Social Security Survivor Benefits for jj and Tyler at 4k a month
@@MoniLove100 That worm.
Yen’s. I bet curse words came from her mouth that was not normally accepted Mormon speech.
@@annhenry3135 🤣
The police didn't take Charles seriously because they were smitten with Lori's charming looks. My heart breaks for the grandparents.
I think Charles wasn't taken seriously because he was a good looking man, fit, etc. Certainly, some little blonde was just mad. Since he was male, he wasn't listened to.
yup her little giggles and jokes
It is not the job of the police to protect citizens from harm.
@@Ausgar-yc1yl Yes, it is.
@@Angel..Dancer Absolutely WRONG. I have been an attorney for years and married to an attorney who was an officer while in law school. It is NOT the job of the police to protect citizens from harm. Googke the question...Are police obligated to protect citizens from harm. They are NOT Try again when you actually know what you are talking about.
I wonder how those cops feel now. Charles told them he was in danger and next thing he's dead, two kids are dead, a woman is dead. If they had acted sooner, it could all have been avoided.
Apparently she knows one of the cops..most likely she mentioned that she had protection order against charles.
Don’t forget the judge that didn’t agree with Charles that his wife at the time was threatening his and his children’s lives to murder them.
The police got sucked in (and fooled) by Lori's cutesy act.
No excuse these police officers should be taken to trail also! Disgusting behaviour!
Repeating her delusional words to the police probably had them seeing him as the crazy one who was out to bad mouth his wife. They had no idea how far this was going to go :( Very sad.
It's amazing this show is 2 years old but depicts the current situation almost perfectly. Good for Charles Vallow for changing his beneficiary to his sister. Best move he could have made. I would have loved to see Lori's face when she realized she wasnt going to be a millionaire! May Chad rest in peace.
Maybe if Lori had known she wouldn't get Charles insurance money she wouldn't have conspired with Alex to murder him in cold blood. She needed money to fund lifestyle with Chad Doughboy. He is certainly too dull to keep her in style C did. Extreme respect for Charles and condolences to his family.
Casey Anthony, as evil as she is, doesn't hold a candle to this case. The adults that knew what Chad, Lori and Alex were up to, and did NOTHING is absolutely despicable. And although I take comfort in the belief that Charles, Tammy, JJ, and Tylee are at peace in heaven, I still can't wait to watch Lori and Chad pay for this. Alex got off easy, in my opinion. And I surely hope both Melanie's, Ian, David, Zulema and quite possible Lori's mother and sister also see justice in this lifetime.
Definitely Mel p needs to get locked up as she would’ve killed two of her children since she was told by her “uncles” that two of her children were dead... she’s the most involved, her, Ian, zulema, Julie Rowe should all be charged with something and loris mother should be charged with making a false statement to authorities after saying she had talked to Jj after he was already murdered by her daughter!!
@@carlosidk2565 Absolutely! Mel P is the worst!!! And shoot.....I forgot about Julie Rowe! That WHOLE family is 50 shades of F'd up!
@@carlosidk2565 and Mel p she shot at Brandon her ex husband so she tried to kill her ex husband and her kids to and she got married right away after she left Brandon just like lory did Mel almost did it but Brandon was smart and moved away with the kids thank God other wise they be dead as well
Yes! Totally agree! At the very least neglect charges! Should be charged as accomplices.
Don't forget Jason Mow - he's managed to stay below the radar, but he pops up in this story over and over.
The freaking cops who did NOTHING about Charles being murdered just makes me sick!!!! This whole story makes me sick!!!! If these two don’t get convicted I will have lost all faith in humanity 😣😔
I agree.
I agree those cops did nothing to help Mr. Vallow!
Don't let these black hearted people make you lose faith!! One way or another they are going to have to pay for their actions!!
I Totally agree
Charles was on Police Body Cam
Begging for help saying his and the children's lives were in be Danger
But No one listened or helped
And now they are all Dead
Pure Evil is what Lori and her
False self proclaimed prophet are
I agree..if ever a murder was preventable..also if the police would have taken this threat seriously it is very likely not only charles but tammy, jj, and tylee would be alive right now..I found it more that odd the man charles called bishop was the best friend of jason mow... the same mow that spoke at those preparing of people events and also the same jason mow be seal lori and chad ( 2 adulterers) in the temple claiming to be the reincarnated maroni...
Question for the police in Chandler, Arizona: how is it self-defense when the autopsy showed Charles was shot while he was lying down?
His story made no sense yet they couldn't be bothered to investigate! As a matter of fact Lori had a pool party that same night in the home where Charles had been murdered earlier in the day. They need to explain themselves! Rest in Peace Charles
@@3D-Time We are probably so numbed out with TV shows like "Law And Order" that we imagine that the police actually solve cases 😳
Corrupt cops that also are Mormons.
I wonder if in this AZ county, are there a majority of LDS in LE?
Is this why they looked the other way when a man (brother-in-law) goes into his house to retrieve a gun, becuz he claims he was struck by a bat (by sister’s hubby), instead of calling 911. This is not self-defense, it is manslaughter. He choice to leave supposed outdoor altercation to retrieve a lethal weapon from indoors.
Lazy AZ LE or complicit.
Exactly!And Charles was a semi pro baseball player,if he would have hit him he would would have at least knocked him out so he could at least get on there.
Happy 18th birthday Tylee !!! JUSTICE FOR TYLEE AND JJ!!
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
So pitiful this is the 2nd birthday she has been passed. Happy Birthday in Heaven Tylee.
🌹💜 Happy Birthday In Heaven Tylee🌹💜. Im so sorry, you were so brutally taken, from our world💔. You and baby brother JJ, are now, free of pain, and neglect💜. Run free, soar high with the angels. Jesus has you tightly in his arms💜💫💙. Justice is coming your way Tylee and JJ⚖💯⚖. The people, around this world will never, forget you sweethearts🥰🌺🥰.
💜🌹💜🌹💜🌹💜🌹💜
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@@doreenmaclean4953 Amen 🙏🙏🙏😢😢😢
I’m sure she’s reading all your comments 😂😂
If these two don’t get charged with multiple felony murders there is no justice in this world. They are as evil as they come.
No murder charges
It is beyond sad what these pure evil things have done
I hope the lifers have a plan for theese two. Even prison inmates dispise this type of person. I'm SOOO glad that she didn't get the million dollars. What a witch.
This is something ro protest about if that happens.
I have a feeling they will not be charged
Police incompetence played a huge part in the deaths of The kids and Tammy
@Boston Gal It is the job of the police to at least be competent, and they couldn’t even do that. It would help if they had a minimum baseline IQ of 75 to meet employment qualifications, but fell at least 10 points short, OBVIOUSLY. That’s all people want from law enforcement - basic competence. Charles didn’t get that, so more had to die unnecessarily.
@Boston Gal That explains your reflexive defense of cops who come from the shallow end of the gene pool. Not sure what the qualifications are in your part of the world, but in Chandler AZ brain damagd gets a pass.
That's a stretch! The children were already dead when the kids were reported missing. How is anyone to prevent something after the fact? Charles reporting the crazy religious threats, Lori was checked at a mental facility and I'm sure she manipulated that encounter. She obviously didn't tell them she was threatening to murder hubby or planning to murder children or anyone else. So many want to blame police for everything. Maybe you just have a problem with law enforcement.
@Christina, if a man reports people are threatening to kill him and then he winds up dead six months later, why should the police just take the killers’ statements and do no investigating? Especially since Alex had already tried to kill Lori’s previous husband? Had they investigated Charles’s suspicious death, there is a shot the kids would’ve at least been taken away from Lori before she could have them killed.
yes they were rookies playing cops.
Charles was MURDERED!
Why do people always say he “died” 🤔
If these people don’t get charged them our Justice system is a complete sham!!
They murdered 5 maybe more people including 2 precious children!!
They will blame Alex for it all. I have a feeling they will only get obstruction.
Nikki Six22 they were serial killers
Sharon M.T. You know there are! 🙄
Marcia Jones yes!!!
Sharon M.T. Conspiracy to commit murder charges
Thanks to East Idaho News for your tremendous contribution to investigating and reporting on this case!
I love that Charles changed his life insurance benefactor at the last minute...I can imagine how pissed Lori must have been when she found out. She was really stupid though, she had been threatening Charles, doing her antics on him, hiding from him, keeping JJ from him, locking him out of his house, etc, and actually thought he would keep her on his life insurance? How dumb.
Imagine knowing you are in danger, the police basically ignored you, and you change your insurance policy to someone else because he knew he was in danger. Rest in peace, Charles. You, Tylee, JJ, and Tammy didn’t deserve any of this 😢 You deserved so much better, Charles. I hope the police who ignored your pleas for help think about you everyday and how they could have stopped this whole thing; had they only LISTENED AND HELPED YOU! 😢 All these lives lost could have been spared! It’s heartbreaking 💔
@@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468 Charles was accompanied by his LDS Bishop when he first went to the home the previous night. We never heard from that Bishop again.
Which night?
This case is a great example of the adage, ‘The truth is stranger than fiction.’ It’s so strange no one would think it possible if it were a story.
I can’t wrap my head around the things these people did, especially to the kids. The are beyond evil.
The devil got inside them. He played too much with the near death experien e and veil, god dont like ugly and liars, and he got punished and everyoke else too.
My heartbreaks for Tylee and JJ , Tylee was just starting to become a young woman of 17 .. she was beautiful and had her chance to rid herself of her evil mom and help JJ .. I believe Tylee knew the truth about Charles murder .. God Bless the children. 💕
Mother put tylee against charles talking about how he cheated when he didnt, when she was already cheating with chad. Didnt tylee notice how her mom got together with chad, so she mustve found out she was the cheater and to a married man. Lori thinking chad had money qith his fake novels. Why would a near death experience come out with fake novels about near death experiences...thats why the devil went into him and lori.
Norma Colon Cheaters do tend to project.
Tylee died before she turned 17
Leann Wilson I believe Tylee saw her mom and Alex kill Charles that’s why Lori had to have an alibi as to leave and be returning when the police were there , to look innocent , also why she had to get rid of Tylee , the poor girl , she was in a den of iniquity and couldnt get out or away from all of the evil. I hope that woman never sees the light of day!!
Tylee was 16 when she was murdered.
The local police’s behavior and performance in this tragedy is almost as bad as the murders themselves.
They were probably LDS and covering for her. That's the only thing that makes sense. Law enforcement never drops the ball this many times in one case
@@beewalk34 what’s LDS?
@@arl3761 The church of Jesus Christ of Latter(L)-day(D) Saints(S) = Mormon
As they say, though...we cannot investigate until there is a crime. Charles said he was afraid "she planned to kill him". Once she did it, they could investigate....but not before. So sad and crazy that it could not have been prevented.
@@beewalk34 I agree, LDS were covering and protected them til FBI got involved
So much of the reporting on this case is due to East Idaho News. Y'all have done an excellent job and I am so impressed! Thank you for being integral to seeking justice for Tylee and JJ❤
I just found a children's book by Chad and Tammy Daybell in my mom's storage for her bookstore and got the chills!!!
Burn it .
I read his Grave Digger book and by the writing in it he was not very smart. That’s why I believe Lori was the mastermind of this whole thing. And with all probability Chad would have been killed eventually after she got a huge insurance policy on him. I still expect Lori to throw Chad under the bus and claim him and Alex killed the kids without her knowledge. Mark my words she will claim she thought they had hidden the kids for their own safety and she didn’t know they were dead.
@@FloraDubya I know, he isn't a great writer- at all! What's that book about? Creepy title given the events of late.
Terra Riley It’s about when he worked as a grave digger. Some pretty telling stuff about burying bodies. He had experience. His other books were pretty juvenile stories, like religious romance novels. I couldn’t read those even though they were free on kindle. It’s called One Foot In The Grave. Even more creepy now.
@@FloraDubya Wow. He worked as a grave digger. That's gotta come up at trial, no? Unless they're focusing on Cox as the killer. That seems to be the thread. They don't have any hard evidence of how they died, but if they can pin them as influencing/manipulating Cox into it, they're as good as done.
What do you think? I really worry about the state being able to get them for anything that would be judicious.. murder would be justice, and they don't have it. It's so frustrating!
How narcissistic to believe you can sail onto the sunset with missing children.
These two are as evil as it gets
Rest In Peace to these children 🙏🏽🕊
Yeah they thought they were invincible you think they were going to get away with all this.
Idk if you heard the phone call between Lori and her sister Robin,… but she completely handed it to Lori,… and was screaming, “You’re in Hawaii on the Beach? While you’re kids are missing!?” Literally. Her sister seriously said everything we all wanna say to her. She spoke for everyone
Yeah..hopefully back for the noose..hang em high..can't believe this and Mormons..what a weirdo
Think how much she got away with through her life. No wonder she expected to.
And Charles, and Tammy 🩷🩵
My heart breaks listening to Colby cry asking his mother to do the right thing. What he is going through has got to be difficult.
I pray for Colby every night!!
Today the 24 of September is Tylees 18 the Birthday. Rest in peace my friend. You'll get justice. Happy heavenly birthday 🎈🎂🎉🎉
Happy 18th Birthday 🎂 Tylee in Heaven 🤗💕❤️
Happy birthday to angel Tylee. God bless you and Rest In Peace.
Happy birthday beautiful child. You now know love, joy and peace. So sad u could not have that here on earth.💔
Happy heavenly birthday sweet Tylee ✨
Rest In Peace sweet girl 🌈 🎈
Happy Heavenly Birthday💗! Im so sorry 😞 for what happened to you & your bro & others! But...I hope you are celebrating in heaven😇💓!
How come Chad Daybell’s books can still be bought on Amazon? I don’t think this would be possible in my country. They should be taken off the shelves asap in order not to influence other weirdos.
Well in the US money is all the country cares about. They often even let violent killers out on bond. Even Lori had her bond reduced to 1 million dollars after these murders
Right or to make money on books that help him pay for his defense.
He shouldn’t be able to profit from his crime. That’s 🇺🇸 law. Maybe cuz they were written before the crimes?
Bezos has no morals. The US government has no morals. We encourage people to hoard money by any means necessary no matter who is harmed along the way…this behavior is actually encouraged. You’d be shocked how much money and benefits get made off of cults and murder, yes even by the killers themselves.
In order not to enrich the bastard any further!
East Idaho News is doing a great job trying to cover this horrific story.
In all fairness, this video was taken from Court TV
@ But they used clips from East Idaho News, I think she was just making a statement that EIN is doing a good job
Absolutely, Nate Eaton (sp?) is the true star in this case imo, he was like a dog with a bone
Agreed 👍
Lol they aren't trying to cover the story.... East Idaho News are the experts!!!
Why did you just say Charles Vallow died? He was murdered. It truly makes me cry seeing Charles trying to get help from law enforcement. Maybe if they would have believed and helped him the kids might still be alive.
I agree with you
You can't cover this whole case in 44 min... even so, that's a whopper they left out.
Edit: I jumped the gun based on comments. My bad!
The police in Phoenix are still investigating it
Had it been the other way around Lori would’ve gotten help! 😡
@First Last read that sentence out loud, if you dont realize how God awful that is we're truly in the end of times.
This is by far the most bizarre craziest case I have ever heard Both are nuts. But the case is so intriguing. I can’t stop
same
YOU GOTTA CHECK OUT LETECIA STOUCH@!GANNON STOUCH MURDER?#
I'm addicted myself🤭 morbid curious about the fascinating/horrific/bizarre/unbelievable.
Lori and Chad weren't concerned about the whereabouts of the children because they knew they were dead, and buried in Chad's back yard.
Well, yeah, obviously they knew.
Well obviously, even if they actually had no idea they probably still would show no concern of their where abouts...
@@21_f_aus Very True.
Yeah. That’s pretty obvious.
most heartbreaking is when Charles is trying to get help from police...
or, that a child that he helped raise showed 0 emotion when killed....wife of over 10 years throws pool party on day of murder at crime scene....they had not lived there that long.. do not think any neighbors are going to go to the new murder house...wonder who was in attendance..
They have a report and footage of Charles on police cam saying she has told him she will kill him, then when he turns up dead they don't do anything and just take their word for it?!?!? There's no justice in that!!!
That was crazy.. And Chads wife died in her sleep at 49.. Yeah sure..
When he talked with the police, warning that his wife has changed drastic/mental issues and belives he is taken over by Zombies and has threatned to kill him -and nothing is done..!? They obviously has murdered people all over the place and several people involved in theire madness -as her niese and what they did with her husband..
Right! He gets shot by her brother with that ridiculous self defence story.
@Boston Gal Hmmmm, I'm not sure you know what the duties of the police are lol. One of the reasons there ARE police forces all around the world is to stop us from killing each other, so yeah, it IS their job to protect citizens from being harmed. Nobody expects around the clock protection but having been forewarned they shouldn't have discounted that he was murdered!! FFS, it's even in their oath - to serve and protect.
@Boston Gal Then what does it mean? "We believe that mainstreaming human rights-based approaches in law enforcement is the very embodiment of the PNP Motto, “To Serve and Protect”. More than just being enforcers of the law, we in the PNP are duty-bound to respect, protect, and fulfill the rights of citizens." I don't think YOU know WTF you're talking about!!! I do believe it is the right of every citizen not to be murdered, is it not?!? Irrespective, there should have been an investigation and there wasn't. The police dropped the ball on that one!
The police were so lazy in this case, it's so disgusting, they let Lori get away with what she did it is unbelievable. Three people are dead because of the incompetence of the police.
I don't understand how they didn't arrest Alex after he shot Charles. He shouldn't of had a gun due to prior jail time. The police messed up. They acted so strange and yet they didn't take them into custody. Such craziness.
White privilege
Lori batted her eyes, talked in her little girl voice and flirted with the officers. She knows what she was doing.
@LittleAnn; Especially since Charles told the police that Lori was going to kill him! Grrrr
Gilbert Police Department, wtf????
The terms of his plea sentenced him to 90 days and several years of probation. If completed with no issues, the charge would be wiped from his record. He can now live as if he was never charged.
As far as not being arrested, you can’t arrest someone for being weird. There was zero evidence the police could go off that countered Alex’s statement. Lori & Tylee even vouched for the earlier fight so there was little the police could actually do. And if you know anything about AZ, it’s very pro-gun.
Charles Vallow didn't just "die" he was murdered by Lori and her brother Alex Cox!
I keep saying this too. It makes me angry when people say that Charles "died" when we all know that Alex murdered him.
I think Alex shot him and Lorie hit Alex with the bat to make it look like Charles did it
After Alex shot him Lorie hit Alex with the bat I do believe that's what happen
I think thats why Tylee had to die she was hardly more than a child, and they had let her see what they did.
Yeppers that was planned
Charles: My wife is nuts , she wants to kill me
Alex : I shot Charles in the head
Lori : Ha ha - wanna come to a pool party?
Police: Nothing to see here
F*&#!...right??? Like WTAF people...
Smdh 😒😒😒😒
LDS all stick together despite criminal behavior. They cover for each other.
How do u know he was shot in head???
Pretty much. 🤦🏽♀️
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Charles was smart to change the beneficiary of his life insurance policy from loony-Lori to his sister Kay.
the 4th husband, Charles, been pleading with the cops for help. Yet, after his dead, no investigation of foul play. They believed his wife because she was a woman. Hope there's another lawsuit coming to the PD.
I don’t think they had enough evidence at that time.
@@thedeepfriar745 They didn't, but they were still incompotent because a. they didn't take Charles' claim that she threatened to murder him seriously and investigate it and b. that they didn't look any further into Lori or Alex right after the murder when there were so many signs in their behavior that something was off. Even as a layman myself I could see that. The fact the cop just laughs along with Lori in the full clip is insane.
Not just any woman HOT woman using her charm...weak af
@@maddiemaccheese8170 Exactly. They fell for her pretty woman act. If only they'd had some inkling of the hideous murdress underneath that facade.
I believe there’s an investigation now about his death and I think it’s proving he was murdered
My heart goes out to Charles! He lost his wife, his kids and then his life! So sad‼️💔
The husband before (Joe Ryan) died in suspicious circumstances and his insurance went to Tylee his natural daughter. Which means the money went to Lori. 6 deaths. Two husbands, two children, her brother, and Chad's wife. She's a black widow.
Correction: There are a total of six deaths in this decades-long case; her two ex husbands, her brother, Chad's wife and those precious children.
Don't forget the other possible victims who died under suspicious circumstances like Chad's neighbor who saw the bonfires in the backyard died of PE like Alex and Tammy plus Lori's child custody attorney died unexpectedly when Lori got mad overJoe Ryan getting partial custody of Tylee. I would loke to know the circumstances surrounding his sudden death and autopsy results but I dony know how to get that death certificate and cause of death. Then Loris oldest sister Laura died as an infant and Older sister Stacey Cox who died an early death and afterwords Alex stole her deceased sisters bank card and emptied out her bank accounts and credit card too. Theres also a girl that disappeared who Chad went to h.s. with her name is Kyplin Davis missing at age 17 when they were going to same school. Chad was a cemetery sexton at that point, so he knew how to dig a grave and maybe dig it back up and put her body in a pre- dug grave? He could hide a body in one of the graves if he was smart enough to cover it up well. Just a thought I have had early on in the case.
Investigators are looking into Joe Ryan's death as a homicide and not natural causes especially since Lori was heard saying on a podcast she wanted to murder Joe but that she didn't want to do anything wrong and that she didn't have a murderous heart, when we all know Lori had a malicious, murderous heart, when we know Lori, Chad and Alex were all on a murderous heartless rampage to rid the world of all the zobies. However, his 5 kids were fine not dark like Loris kids. Chad gets visits from his kids they are alive, but Loris family are dead at her doing. Now no one but Janice her mom and Summer her youngest sister, who knew almost everything about the murders, especially Charles death; Summer offered to kill Charles if Lori didnt! Quote en quote, and Summer may have been next to get a pulmonary embolism!
And attempted murder of Brandon
What about her sister and chads neighbor 🤔
@@jeanP924 Glad to hear they are looking at Joe Ryan's death.
@@vanceriddle4191Chad and Lori conspired to have Brandon Bordeaux murdered but Alex Cox and Melani Bordeaux attempted to shoot him in the head, but missed, thank God! I still think Alex drove and MB did the shooting. After being shot at, BB took off in his Tesla and they chased BB for a short distance, possibly trying to shoot him again. In my opinion., either of them could have done the shoo but it doesn't matter! Why is LE not enforcing the law with the murder attempt on Brandon! I still can't believe he let Melani have shared custody of their kids who were rated dark. These other children were on Chad and Lori's hit list as well. Melani was going along with these killings while aiding and abetting in these horrendous crime's! I hate that LE adds insult to injury letting another pretty blonde get away with attempted murder! This makes my blood boil and Melani could have stopped the kids and Tammy's murders! She should serve jail time for her crimes I won't put my lit torch, or my pitchfork down until MP is in prison too. Arizona LE don't act like they know how to do their jobs effectively. Either they don't get paid enough to care or LE is just lazy and don't care enough to investigate and do research on people involved in a homicide where no one vouches for the dead man on the floor, Charles! It's infuriating the cops just went along with the stories and all the inconsistencies.
Excellent accurate report. Thanks to Easy Idaho news. Nate was irreplaceable in his intervention reporting Thanks to both Nate's for that. Karen Morente
I have a lot of trouble with how Charles is described as having ”died”. The truth is that he was shot to death by Alex Cox. Call it what it is and stop covering for Lori’s involvement. It is like tossing sugar in to the sewer to make it look and smell a bit better.
Court tv sucks.
I believe Court TV has a legal obligation in that they cannot say Charles was “killed” or “murdered” because it has not been proven in a court of law (Y E T).
Agree with you- I wish reporters would say he was “murdered” not “died”
@@rOnda88 ok then allegedly
They can’t legally Call it anything else or they could be charged with slander.
love your coverage on this horrifying case. Immediately clicked when getting the notification!
My heart hurts each time I see Charles Vallpw talking to the police. I know police officers see and hear all kinds of things, but that one officer sounded like he couldn't have cared less and indicated that one of his statements was not a threat. Also, Laurie, with her cavalier attitude after a death, is so concerning that it's ridiculous. I wonder if we will ever see a conviction. It seems to be taking forever. RIP to those whose lives were taken in this horrible egotistical ideal.
I don't know why she's been married 5 times! There's nothing about her that's attractive! She is so ugly! They won't live very long in prison! If they do survive, they will have a miserable, existence!
@eboston7591 well it should be!
@Leena Wexler 😂 Well. What do you think there job is then.
@eboston7591 and one time at band camp...
Yep I agree there are many people who knew so much but never came forward in time to save these beautiful children.
Is not that they didn't come in time, they decided not to tell which is wrong very wrong, therefore they are accomplices...
I don't know which death was the most heartbreaking. It started with poor Charles, who couldn't get the help he was crying out for. That hurts. But then, the innocent children, and what they did to their bodies, unbelievable. Then poor, sweet, unsuspecting Tammy. I'm in shock over all of it. I pray for justice for the four wonderful souls that were taken by the real demon zombies.
Death is too good for Lowry and Chad. They need to be tortured like they did the 2 children. They need to feel every bit of the pain those children felt.
I'm thinking it's highly likely that she killed Joseph Ryan too. Or Alex did for her. He was Tylee's father, who was a healthy young guy who suddenly died of a apparent heart attack. Seem super suspicious to me. If he was embalmed and buried they should exhume him and see if they can get a pathologist to find out exactly how he died. especially considering how many other people have died that are connected to them.
@@loriburnip Yelp, I agree girlfriend. They need to exhume Tylee’s dad’s body and let the pathologist do their thing. Yelp, Lori was in on this whole saga of murders in the name of Jesus. I heard that Lori got away with stuff b/c she was pretty. I saw the bitch! She wasn’t pretty in the face at all. She probably had a killer body and knew how to flaunt it. That’s my take on that. Just think, the bitch was in Hawaii shopping for a wedding ring and wedding dress while Chad or Alex or both murdered her kids. I was tickled pink that Lori never got the money from Charles’ insurance policy. Charles left it to his sister. Lol! Smart move! For some reason, I kind of wonder how Chad’s children were treated. I think Chad killed Tyree and Alex rotisseried her putting her parts in a bucket. Makes sense Chad and Alex buried Tyree’s body. Yes, no doubt, Lori was in support of all these murders. Chad and Lori couldn’t wait to jump in the sack freely once his wife was murdered. This woman was perfectly healthy! What folks won’t do for money, sex and greed!
@@barbaramorgan5992 Yep I completely agree. As for Chad's kids they must have been treated ok by their dad because they're still supporting him and saying he's innocent. They think he was taken advantage of by Lori (god I hate sharing my name with that bitch) & they're claiming he was framed 🤦🏼♀️. It's sad that they're in denial, but I can see why they wouldn't want to believe it, he's their only parent left & they don't want to believe he's a murderer. They especially don't want to believe he murdered their Mom.
@@barbaramorgan5992 Joe Ryan’s body was significantly decomposed when found, and his body was cremated.
This is horrible and how the case keeps dragging on and hasn't started yet . the one thing that was good was Charles removing Lori from his life insurance . i heard the phone call she made& the shock in her voice! loved it! still doesn't make up for him being dead but he knew something was up!
Ohhh yeah I forgot about that!!!!
I believe that's part of the reason they murdered the kids so soon. Maybe they would have kept them alive longer if they had gotten the insured money. 😥
Ikr 💯
@@zheezhee352 I doubt it😢
@@ceegee-gg6kr 😭😭😭
they should have mentioned the fact that later that day Lori had a fplanned pool party at her house! YES! a couple hours after Charles had just been shot dead in her living room. unbelievable...
Not.aiding with her, but if she plannednthe pool.party..then it qas.planned.before that..if it.was earlier then charles wouldve.died. ormmaybe they.were.telling.charles.
there.was.a.pool.party.so.he.think.peoole.were.going
.to.be around.cuz.nobody elsw.was.around.
Huh?? 🤷
Or that the "family friend" that called for alex was really his wifes son. And that the son didnt even know his mom was married to him.
They left a lot of interesting tidbits out of this.. 🤔
Wasnt the pool party at a friend of the family's house (not at Lori's house. we're Charles was killed ) ?
I was once convinced I was a mighty barbarian warrior from ancient, forgotten times. Them I turned 7 and wanted to be a Transformer. I guess Lori and Chad never stopped pretending?
yeah kind of goes along with transgenderism.
IKR. It sounds like a bunch of middle schoolers. Only, it's real.
So a news man can track the Daybell's down in Hawaii, but law enforcement couldn't...
Nate Eaton is EXCELLENT. That why he managed tracking them down.
Yep the cops were hoping it would go away . Listen to the cops interview them . Makes me want to throw up .
@@bjmartin5225 The cops were probably part of LDS too. They need to be investigated as well
It's not fair to compare reporters to police.
News employees have a huge advantage that cops simply cannot overcome during an investigation:
news employees tend to be at least somewhat intelligent.
Because HE cared and they didn’t 🤔
So I have a question,,, Alex was a FELON, he done jail time for shooting Joesph Ryan in the Private’s, a convicted felon,,, when he shot Charles Vallow, WHY DIDNT AZ LE CHARGE HIM FOR OWNING A GUN????? Isn’t that illegal to own a gun when you’re a felon???
Tonya Townley yes
Unfortunately, he was legally able to carry. He was able to work out a deal following his parole...or some such legalese that I cant recall now. You'll have to look it up if you would like a more specific answer. Believe me, I asked the same question!
@@jaynine4133 Maybe because of his work. Needs protection because he was a truck driver.
The terms of his plea allowed for the conviction to be dropped from his record after completing his jail time and parole. It was as if he never had the felony.
If everybody in that town is LDS, including police, I'm sure they turned their cheek the other way....
Two minutes in and I have goosebumps. All of this has been so heartbreaking.
Thank you so much East Idaho News. Excellent documentation and an in dept coverage of this heart breaking story. It is a COURT TV Special indeed! May the two children and Tammy R.I.E.P.!
WHY DO they keep saying CHARLES DIED? He was MURDERED - shot to death by Alex, or Lori. See 5:00 time-stamp.
they explained it later
Charles is lying dead on the floor and she's joking and laughing with the cops. She's sick and heartless! I hope they find her guilty of multiple murders!
She had a pool party that evening
Cold blooded. She could have at least acted shocked that a killing happened in her house. That was pretty abnormal. Even if a stranger got killed in front of my house I’d be freaked out. She didn’t even seem concerned her daughter was going to have to see the body or the aftermath. What normal parent or even the Uncle would not try to shield a 16 year old child from a death scene? And it’s the child’s step father lying dead. Too cold all around.
I'm still pissed his death wasnt investigated. Its ridiculous!
That shows what a true narcissist this piece shit is., married for how long, raising kids, and sends her brother in to do her dirty work for while she’s standing outside joking about the neighbours to the cops !
Doh 🙄 absolutely disgusting.
My heart 💖 goes out to all the innocent victims in this sad story !
She thinks her plan succeeded, that's why she's laughing with the cops and had a party that night. It must have been before she found out that Charles had changed the beneficiary on his life insurance.
I think JJ's family should sue the police department that took care of his father's death. How could they rule his death self-defense so easily. With so many thing happening. JJ and Tyle might be alive if only.
Apparently Alex was under investigation from the day he killed Charles..easy for LE to say now..in my area Alex would've been arrested then the investigation would go on..I totally believe the kids and Tammy would still be alive if Alex had been arrested that day..
@Tiny Princess not true. When they fuck up, u can sue. My friend got 10 grand suing pigs for being negligent pigs
@Tiny Princess When a cop violates your civil rights they lose qualified immunity- it happens all the time and people win thousands, tens of thousands on the reg, but it's the city not the cop that has to pay- It takes a year or 2 usually, but watch any cop watch video on here you'll see. Now regarding this case, idk how that would apply, seems like it was obvious the Varrow husband was murdered, of course the dumb cops went w it was justified- they're lazy af...I know, I have a few in my family. I also have a cousin who is a prosecutor in Chandler AZ of all places !!...crazy, I'll have to get some details from her.
@Tiny Princess Um...YOUR statement "Police have qualified immunity and you can't sue"...is what I was responding to..so you would be Wrong on that statement, absolutely incorrect. So, when proven wrong, you just change the topic?... Let me guess, you're a cop, or married to one- the cherry picking of points or facts when you're proven wrong, how cop like.
@Tiny Princess Married to an attorney-the experts on the Law, then misrepresent Constitutional Facts, and I'm the insulting one?...keep moving the goal post. You're Welcome, any time.
Man, it is heartbreaking to believe she allowed this to happen her kids. I imagine her own living son is just tripping out.
She not only allowed it. I believe she instigated all of it! She had her hit man brother & devil-driven husband doing all her dirty, evil deeds. 🤦🏼♀️
Colby is the sweetest! It breaks my heart for him & his little family. He wrote a tribute to both JJ & Tylee that is heart crushing.
Yes and who's to say that physically Lori didn't help in the murders of her children. She's so cold and evil I wouldn't put it past her 😈
She's a lunatic
Sassy Cassie She more than likely did! I’m sure she’s capable- no doubt!
@@sassycassie5478 whether physically or not she knew, but do they have the evidence to prove it? I'm not so sure
All involved are completely nuts...except for the grandparents, how this whole thing wasn’t stopped when Charles went to the police is disgusting
Another example about police not being trained to help... If Charles would have been upset and talking loud the cops would have done something to him, not for him.....
And Colby, he’s good people too
Im this instance we can't blame police people have rights and the vast majority of the time it's warranted
Total agreement with your comment!
@First Last what the hell are you talking about? have you never heard about that oath they take to serve and PROTECT? the fact that, more often than not it seems, they DON'T honor that oath doesn't mean they aren't OBLIGATED to do so. it is supposed to be like, the MAIN thing they are obligated to do. unfortunately, they would rather abuse, extort and kill.
That cop that was sarcastic to Mr. Vallow should be charged with criminal negligence. Mr. Vallow needed help and that cop did nothing for him.
Thank you COURT TV! This was a terrific special with very thorough coverage. Excellent!
She just has zero emotions about her "husband " getting killed. Sooo spooky.
And to this day she has also shown zero emotions about her kids getting killed brutally and buried in her new husband’s yard - still insisting on being addressed as his wife.
whoopty doo yes, even had a pool party after he was killed!!
He was her husband, why the quotation marks?
RDnAC And went to Hawaii with her new husband after her kids and her brother all died. Didn’t seem any of those deaths fazed her or Chad.
Psychopath
Why are American police so inadequate ,that poor Charles almost beged for help and they ignored the poor man, and what happened next.?????😰
LDS
American police won't do anything until something tragic has happen.
Depends on where you live! What state you live in. County, City.
@@denisehood958 When a religion has a tighter control on the community, than the local police, many horrible things are swept under the carpet.
The LDS Leaders told their members to not discuss the case, or watch anything online about it. That shocked me.
We agree😥💔
And please don't listen to liars who will say LDS people are this way, I promise we are not.❤ We are just as appalled as everyone else, perhaps more because it's so close to home for us. This tragedy hurts my heart terribly.❤
I didn't realize Melanie Gibb initially lied to the police. She doesn't mention that in the extensive interview she gave with Nate Eaton (who is such a fantastic investigative reporter, fighting for those kids!). I wouldn't lie to the police for my family, let alone a friend - and the fact it was regarding the whereabouts of children makes it especially heinous. I see now why she worries about how people may perceive her. My opinion has certainly shifted.
Age admitted that at Chads prelim and 2nd interview wifh Nate after the prelim.
She thought at the time Lori was hiding JJ from Kay! She eventually figured it out and talked to LE and told them the truth.
You should watch her testimony it’s very informative
@@nikkisix2257 I will - thanks!
@Karen Soo Thanks for clarifying that for me, I appreciate it.
I think it's weird she initially lied in her Dateline interview and her interview w/ Nate about this! She's so sketchy to me. I am grateful shes testifying though cause they probably wouldn't have enough evidence to keep her in jail without her.
“Alex was the family hit man”. What family needs a hit man? Let me rephrase that. What sane, law abiding family needs a hit man?”
Imagine for a moment the kind of family you'd have to be a part of when one of the members is accurately referred to as 'the family hitman'.
It's so terrifying that those poor children wound up in that whirlpool the adults around them created. Awful.
We were married in a past life 😅😅😅😅😅 roughly translated, get your knickers off. You belong to me 😆 🤣 😂 absolutely hilarious
Wait, so she got rid of the kids because she was mad Kay got the $$? There are no natural deaths in this story. None. Lori’s behind it all! Joe Ryan supposedly died of a heart attack just like Alex. Tammi Daybell “Just died🤷🏾♀️” per Chad. He also claimed she was having “heart problems”. So we’re to believe Joe, Tammi and Alex all coincidentally died the same way? You can bet your bottom $ there are no coincidences in this story. Alex had to go because he knew too much. Alex died the day before Tammi’s body was to be exumed. Coincidence? Not!!! Tylee was there when Alex killed Charles. Just listening to Alex explain what happened with Charles made no sense. Like why wasn’t he arrested? Then Lori and Tylee casually roll up like they just came from getting some Icecream when they were there when the shooting happened. Where’d they go? Oh aaaannnddd they tried to kill Melanie’s husband, Brandon. Melanie doesn’t seem right to me either! Lifetime is PISSED they didn’t come up with this story but are likely putting the movie together as we speak.
LadyLibra 1019 and her third husband Joseph Ryan just “died” too from heart issues...Lori is a black widow.
Alex died the day after.. But agree nothing is natural
After Charles died she should have dropped JJ off at the grandparents. He was in the way of her future plans and would have been so much easier
Monisha Rogers Of course. She obviously wasn’t interested in caring for his special needs. She even got rid of his therapy dog & took him out of the special school that he so desperately needed. There is also evidence she stopped giving him his medication & THAT’S why he was acting like a “zombie” that day in front of Melanie Gibb! What kid WOULDNT act out after she had his father killed, his big sister just up& vanishes & then she cut him off from his loving grandparents, as well!! She completely uprooted him, sabotaged his special care & then killed him when he started acting out because of it ALL!!!! It was ALL deliberate to either spite the Woodcock’s over the life insurance or to convince herself & her fellow cult members he had to go!! Whatever her reasons were, they were ALL evil intentions. It makes me sick to my stomach that they STILL haven’t been charged w/ murder. Even if she had her dead brother do it, they are STILL culpable as if she did it herself. This is ridiculous.
I read Chad upped Tammy Daybell's life insurance before her death. And listening to the phone call from Melanie Gibb to Lori & Chad Lori mentions not getting Charles Vallow's life insurance. You can hear Lori's bitterness in her voice. I took interst in this case listening to the posted video readings from Rev Donna Serafina. Chilling and accurate. #JusticeForTyleeAndJJ
You would think I lived in East Idaho the way I've been glued to this story!
Same here 😭
Yep me to! I'm all the way in ohio!
Ottawa, Canada🙂
I believe our entire country wants and. needs justice for JJ, Tylee, Charles, and Tammy.
@@dawndow6650 other countries to it sounds like... and I actually have a justice for Tylee and jj sticker on my back window.. this case has hit my heart since day1
Court TV PLEASE do another segment on Loris court case and sentence, as well as Chads. This was well done, Thank You 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
Lori and Alex switched the beneficiary to Lori and Alex acted like he was Charles. Charles got an email from the insurance company informing him the transfer was made. Charles had the heads up and switched it to his sister.
Susan Lett I’m so glad he did that! That’s why she wanted him dead, for the money.
So many details left out...that are pertinent to understanding who these evil people really truly are. And still NO MURDER CHARGES?
@@laurawrld2097 yes and I've always wondered if hed told her, he and the the children would still be alive - not with her -of course - she'd be so pissed she just might have given JJ to the Woodcocks and thrown Tylee out, but we'll never know.
Liz Hall I agree, you could very well be right.
I noticed they left that part out, too. And no mention of how often Lori & Melanie named-dropped Jason Mow to the Chandler PD, either... I wonder why?
The LE really dropped the ball with Alex Cox! Missed opportunity!
Kids would be alive today if not for this joke of a police force that I’m sure would’ve had em all cuffed up good in certain neighborhoods!
Absolutely. They dropped the ball. Lori flirted with them and that's all it took. Sickening.
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SEVERAL missed opportunities. I really wonder how those officers feel now...
What is sooo sad is that if it’s true that JJ climbed up on to the cupboards and then the top of the frig, he was probably trying to get away from Lori because she was trying to force medicate him and kill him, he KNEW, and he was trying to get AWAY to save his own life. 😭
That's a valid point. Poor JJ. He must have been so frightened.
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Those cops failed Charles Vallow.
What a great news station. East Idaho is very fortunate to have the coverage of news that you supply. So thankful that we out here in Michigan (and the rest of the USA) get to see the coverage you supply. Thank you for such comprehensive coverage.
They have done great coverage, I agree. It amazes me that these people thought they could really get away with this evilness. Hey from Michigan too...✌
Sad how so many people interpret God’s word to suit themselves.
So true and it's mostly the criminals. The truly religious don't have to say anything but just believe and be an example.
Obsessed with worldly desire and own judgement lead to self destruction and sadly the consequences involved others. Killing innocent people and claiming it a vision from God was blasphemy. RIP JJ and Tylee.
So true, & such people taint all genuine believers, doing enormous harm.
That's because it isn't god's word. If there was a god, there would be only one holy book and it would be clear as day and would never be up for interpretation or, this god does exist and he/she/it is a douche bag, not worthy of being followed or worshiped for allowing not only these two but all the so called evangelicals in Murika who are sexist, racist, bigots who have polluted and corrupted the US founding fathers vision of a country not bound by or forced to follow, stupid, ancient middle eastern myths and fairy tales. They were smart enough to realize that if they did not put into the constitution that the state and church should be separate because if it wasn't, you would get, what you have now and have been getting since and including Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes and finally, The Mushroom Dick-tator with the Jim Baker hair cut, who wears Tammy Faye make up, who seemed to have 100% support from the religious, evangelical, Christians !!!!
If you still insist that the Bibble and/or all the other holy books were inspired by if not written by your god, then to all of you but more specifically the women who commented here and all those reading this, listen to your god !
And I quote from 1 Timothy 2 vers. 11 & 12 : 11..." Women should learn in silence, with all subjugation" 12..." I suffer not a woman to teach or to usurp a man's power. Women should remain silent". If that's to hard for you to understand, let me make it really simple for you women.
That is your god, telling you, women, to " Shut Your Mouth and Know Your Role !" and since the Bibble comes from the Jews or inspired by the Jew god. Jews say that a boy, becomes a man at 12 to 14, so any woman who speaks or dares to teach a man 14 years old or older is committing a sin and will burn in hell for eternity, which brings us to my last point, at least in this comment.
Why would anyone worship, believe and pray to a god who says love me or be tortured for eternity !? The only sin which is unpardonable is the sin of non belief, all other sins are pardonable or forgivable but not believing and not worshiping this god of yours is punishable by torture for eternity and you can never be forgiven !!!!!!
man can't interpret god's words. this so called religion vilifies people w/dark skin. vilification is the anti religion surely?
It’s so sad that no one listened to Charles
At least one great last move by Charles. Changing his will. And of all people in the whole wide world God chooses Chad. Yeah, right.
Glad he told lawyer asap the story of Lori being nuts
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This Case is quite horrific beyond beliefe. And quite eeery. The lives they both took will always be rememberd
Eerie
It is so sad the cops didn’t look back at any of Charles statements when he was shot and investigate. 3 lives could have been saved.
Ironically Charles was the only prophet
4 lives. Charles, Tammy, JJ and Tyllee
@Leena Wexler Wrong! Try again JFILL!
@eboston7591 and one time at band camp...
@eboston7591It is their job to thoroughly investigate, to uphold the law and to listen to victims though. They didn't.
why on earth would you even put that Julie in the story as if she is at ALL credible....she’s as creepy as they are
She is really creepy!
@Beth McPoland 😆👍
Creeptastic Julie Rowe is skin crawling material! She just gives me the heebie jeebies! 🤮
Careful y'all, she'll turn you into a toad! Lol!
Julie Rowe is my aunt and I am laughing so hard at these comments about her, she’s so creepy and so weird and talking to her in person just makes you wonder how she can possibly be so delusional and messed up in the head
Why would you lie for your friend about having their child? I don’t understand the logic behind that.
Was probably paid hush money
@@emilyrose8576 Lori said her friend had J.J., in order for her friend to be the last known person with him. Then her friend would have been on the line for answering the question where was he. She would have been blamed for his disappearance,
@@loisdavis4926 I agree Lois Davis, LVD seems like she has a plan to set up all her friends now, using the Religious card by using the terms dark spirits and zombies. She will throw everyone under the bus that she is allowed to. Horrible, Evil Mother From Hell!
Excessive agreeableness. Watch her interview. All she could say about the crazies' latest assertions was: "That's different." She even explains - You know how you want to believe somebody but you really can't even though you really want to? (No.) The first time she stood up for the truth was when Lori put her directly in harm's way. Even then she lied to police before deciding to get evidence to save herself. (Having had a 5 hour conversation with a relatively sane 'friend' - David Warwick? - which stiffened her resolve.) Note to self: Stick with the Gospels. ✝️
Well, look at the whole picture here. What people down there define as a "friend" is just another lost soul with kooky twisted religious propaganda determining how they lived life - twisted to suit each person's agenda. You wouldn't know if you were someone's friend one day and their murder victim the next day. We don't know what Lori said when she asked the friend to cover for her. Maybe she told her that JJ's grandparents were coming tomorrow and going to demand to see him so she wanted him safely out of the way for a few days. Who knows. Her whole life was a series of lies and deceits.
Fantastic upload, nate 👏 👌 👍 you have been absolutely amazing throughout this whole case 😊 thanks for everything you have given us 👏👏👏👏
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Thank you for the coverage of this case. The loss of all the lives in this case is heart breaking , all the victims , Tylee and J.j , may answers one day bring them some peace . May justice ( as much that could be) come.
That's so touching " Kids y'all know I love you and I want you home more than I want to breathe."
If the police hadn't been taken in by a silly, giggly blond this might never have happened.
I can't blame them. Sometimes it just out of our control 😂
Pretty people get away with everything. I hatez pretty people
the world is often taken-in by "optics" rather than by what is being said, what makes sense. Humans are social and so easily swept up by emotions. Is the main point of countless folk tales, etc. Individually we can rationally support those who are being rational and objective.
Check check and check - their other brain was impressed so folks died...
Charles Vallows last F.U. To Lori, I CAN hear how mad she was about Kay getting the money.
Apparently, they never read in the Bible where it says....
"No man knows the day of the Lord's return"
Amen! And beware of false prophets!
They think gods themselves....😢
Or thou shalt not murder.
I always appreciate your videos and coverage of this case. I still want to know Tammy Daybell's exhumation autopsy results. I don't understand the hold up. It's been so long since she was exhumed.
On another note, Happy Heavenly Birthday, Tylee. 💔
I think they are saving that for the trial.
@@annanderson7 yeah probably so. I've just been curious for a long time now. I'm impatient haha
Agreed
I think they are holding that for some reason
I am thinking they have found something, otherwise they would have come out and said it was natural causes, like they did with Alex.
@@gsmith6026 I dint know how but I doubt luck killed Alex.
Though if Lori was still considered his next of kin....
At the time they were not looking at it like Lori did....
Lori's husbands just been murdered and she is laughing.. she is unreal
In her words "that's nice" like r u kidding me ????? Lori,Alex and. Chad NUTS I would of took those kids if I was grandparents or aunts stating unstable and kept fighting for them
My brother has beliefs like this. Space,end of the world...he said he heard demon's in my voice. He is an alcoholic. He says he has powers. He says he has been chosen to fight the apocalypse. I don't feel comfortable being around him alone.
Wise man, Silver! Stay safe.
Yall need to get him help
Please stay safe, stay far away from him and make sure he never had access to weapons. ❤
He should see a psychiatrist.
This has nothing to do with alcohol. He is mentally ill . Needs a mandatory psych hold . Stay away from him report it and don't mention alcohol. He is a threat to your safety and is in desperate need of a mental evaluation. That has zero to do with his addiction. When you mention alcohol to police they won't take it seriously
Why is Julie here ? She is just jealous that Chad choose Lori over her . She knew they were planning on killing Charles Vallow and left a weird coded voicemail for Alex Cox.
Yesssss Julie needs to be investigated and she’s insane the things that she says is so troubling
Yes she did. Thank you for reminding us.
I haven't heard about that voicemail
Dorte Bas go to a channel called It’s a crime . It’s there.
@@dortebas223 me neither
Happy sweet 18 birthday Angel Tylee.
Omg thank you for posting this!! Been looking everywhere for this. Love ya, Nate, you the best!! Cherdan from Hawai'i
Cherdan Helena Johnson Here we go
Tylee was killed because she knew too much and threatened her Mother & Chad's plan, poor JJ was autistic and she didn't want to be bothered with him any longer but was so selfish she wouldn't allow the Woodcock's custody. Sick, vile, evil people. RIP JJ & Tylee ~
Charles had two older sons, then Lori's son and then Tyler and JJ.
this is by far the best coverage of this case. thanks
there is your motive for the kids being murdered , she didnt get that million so she was gonna kill kays grand baby to make her suffer and Tylee had money lori now needed to live her lavish life style . This entire case is sad so many lives lost for GREED , God had nothing to do with it only the Demonic duo who used Alex to do some of the dirty work knowing Chad would end him as well like he did Tammy
Apparently the grandma told Charles to leave everything to ‘his boys’ she never mentioned Tylee at all.
@@frankboff1260 but Tylee had money from her bio dads death due to her lori was actually using Tylees bank card
I wouldn't put that past her. However, if she wanted to hurt the Woodcock's, she'd want them to know JJ was dead not hide it from them. Their motive could be that the children were witnesses to Charles' murder and had to be silenced.
@@StellaFl i have to disagree if she told kay J J was dead , she is smart enough to know she would be arrested . Remember this duo was about killing to support a lifestyle and image .Everyone who was killed had a source of money they wanted .
@@whocares9021 We agree on that, she couldn't tell them. I commented cause you said she killed them to make Kay suffer, she'd have to know they were dead to suffer, no?
I don't think this case would be so far along were it not for the incredibly good investigative reporting from the East Idaho News. I hope they get a journalism award because they deserve it.
“He switched his life insurance from lori to his sister” sister:”he did that cause he knew we’d end up with jj we didn’t ask for it!” No hun, he did that cause he knew what Lori was gonna do to him. She killed her ex husband and I hate how it gets looked over that the poor guy knew she was crazy and the little things like switching life insurance from the person you are suppose to love and take care of to your sister? I’m not buying it man.
If it helps, Ashlynn, I feel the same frustration. Charles tried raising alarms. He sent a link to Tylee by text that told about the dangerous religious sect her mother was in. He got Lori's other brother to try to talk to their church president to get Lori some help. He tried to get a psych eval for Lori and police told her how to get out of it. Lori is a beautiful narcissist who had many people in her control. If she hadn't had the children, maybe Charles would've walked away clean, but he wouldn't desert the children.
The little girl said to Lori , No MaMa " NOT ME " ....
😪 terribly sad!
@@dedemunson4988 Yes. Horrific. That poor child
@Angelika Katarzyna SZALAS .. Exactly! She should be prosecuted !! She knew WAY TO MUCH and could have stopped many murders. The only reason she came forward was to save her own skin knowing " SHE WAS NEXT ". Did you notice that even during her coming out interviews she was still all LoviE DoviE with her messages to the two jailed? Oh. How much she still loves them and hopes they can be together in jail! WHAT THE ??? !!!!. She's just trying to save her own hide ... pig
Angelika Katarzyna SZALAS how do you know she was there when JJ was killed?
@Angelika Katarzyna SZALAS " SHE KNEW " !!!!!!!!!!!
My prayers go out to the grandparents and Colby and loved ones.