Our Punch EV First Drive Review drops today at 4pm on the channel. Until then, which range variant of the Punch EV would be your pick -- 315km or 421km?
My kind request, while interviewing Tata officials you can also ask whether Tata really focusing on QC, fit and finish also after sales service. If they rectify those issues as soon as possible definitely Tata is unstoppable.
I agree. Their products from 2019 feel better finished from the factory than the newer ones after Tata became 2nd largest OEM. TML is yet to learn quality at these volumes, something Japanese understand a lot better.
Polo GT TSI owner here. Have been driving the polo for last 6-7 years. So spoiled and have high expectations from any car I drive. I test drove the punch ev today - empowered+ LR, and must say I am mighty impressed with it. The obvious EV benefits like punchy motors contribute to this no doubt, but then the surprise was that ride quality and suspensions were extremely pliant. It felt like an extremely well balanced tuning between perf and ride quality for this fairly tall and compact car. The test ride was quite short and I didn't get to drive it very extensively, so I might be speaking too soon. But whatever little I could get, I have come out impressed and interested. So far the Polo with the DSG was the ideal small footprint car for Bengaluru traffic, but this goes a notch higher. If only the salesman was a little less lacklustre, he could have gotten much closer to a cheque. :)
It's really surprising that these two gentlemen who are highly informed in their field did not ask those questions which a common man would love to do so..For example, the advertised range and what it actually delivers? Why are the fit and finish of Tata products always an issue? Why the customer service is not yet matching with that of its competitors etc. Maybe if they ask these uncomfortable questions, Tata might black list then. Who knows?
@@shresthsonkar9207Boss the actual range is not more than 240km if you drive at 80 to 90 km speed. Of course it will increase if you drive it around 60km. Why should someone spend so much money to crawl on the highways?
@@Tklshriram71 I already have Nexon EV prime since 2y 20k km I get 250km in city and 240km on highway on the lower range model (mine isn’t max) And I drive the limit ie 80kmph because I’m in no mood to pay more for challan than toll and charging combined Regarding 60kmph, I’d get 300kWh he if I wanted to drive at 60kmph on cruise without AC and 270 with AC I’ve tried all sorts of combinations and 80kmph cruise is best for range + travel time, even on ice cars beyond 80 your mileage will reduce due to drag and most of all, unless it’s controlled access expy like Yamuna expy or samriddhi marg you are never safe even at 70-80 because anytime there can be some jaywalker or cattle or slow af bikers on normal NH
Also actual question like why EV are twice of Petrol? Every EV Tata launched has seen that. Why can't Tata manufacture EV profitabily at same level as ICE? When can we have Price parity of EV with ICE What is Tata's battery production plans? Why isn't Tata actually investing in improving charging infra? Looks like interviews are managed?
@@guru85vaale punch EV adventure LR costs ₹15L OTR, punch petrol AMT accomplished costs ₹11L OTR How is it double price? Have you seen how much features punch base model gets in petrol? A car with more features costs more money? Blasphemy. Colour me surprised And the punch EV still gets more safety features like 6airbag, TC, ESC, TPMS, better infotainment, better cluster and most of all, no laggy AMT - instead true automatic of EV + 9.5s 0-100 vs punch petrol with 20s 0-100
After Hindustan Motors and Premier Padmini era, Maruti Suzuki 800 1983 revolutionized car market. Since 2022 in Indian market TATA (Tata Passenger Electric Mobility Ltd) motors revolutionized EV sale.
I always worry about the warranty coverage conditions. For example: Tata Punch ev comes with 8 years warranty, what does it cover exactly? What if the range falls down to 50% of what is given now after a certain time? Will they replace battery for free or leave us to let scold Tata for the rest of the life. 😢
70% SoH for given warranty period ie range will not drop by more than 70% If it does then it’s under warranty coverage Some Nexon batteries were also swapped under warranty in early days due to mfg defect
I have watched his other interviews and about batteries and warranty he told, the benchmark is 80%. That means if it falls below 80% strength, its eligible for warranty within the period. He told, the predicted battery life is 2000 charging cycles, which means approximately 5 lakhs kms in real life range.
Team, you had a opportunity to ask real questions to Tata leadership but for some reason you didn't ask. 1)Why there's a significant difference between ARAI claimed range and real world range? From the data and real life experience, it's evident that Tata is doing poor in range category compared to Hyundai, MG 2)how is tata going to fix service issues. 3)why tata still not giving decent fast charging options even platform seems to be capable of. There could have been more common issues that you could have asked. Bit disappointed.
1) the same reason as to why ICE car mileage never matches real mileage Kona and MG also give 300-350km only, their WLTP range in Europe is 289km and 262km
They say it is a new platform but charging speeds are still horrible, no one wants to wait for 2 hours on a charging station. 150kW fast charging where? This is a biggest problem in Tata, new gen Nexon now is coming with 7kW onboard charger, people suffered with charging speeds.
For me, this looks like a lost opportunity. Could have asked about battery chemistry, sourcing.. What are they planning for charging infrastructure? How are they planning to face/compete against the tesla in the future?
Tata is deliberately pricing it's EVs at a premium despite battery pricing hitting all time low to protect its ICE cars sales. They can do so because of lack of options in India's ev car market. Also please ask about battery pre conditioning for charging in cold conditions like 0 to 10 degrees.
How ethical is it to release the NEV facelift 23, knowing that a dedicated ev platform is ready, and in the next three months punch EV will be released? Are you, TAMO not cheating the customers who bought NEV facelift paying so much for a non EV platform? The NEV facelift could also have been released on the newer platform!. What do you say about this?
TAMO must give a variant by combining the lower power motor 80bhp with the higher Battery pack 35kWh to increase the practical range. It will reduce overall cost also. No need of So much power & torque in city conditions. Customers will like that combination much more.
Take this official to court, he should be arrested. They are fooling public saying range of electric vehicle is 400km but real range is 225 to 250 hardly. Shame on tata motors
The Nexon is underpinned by an older platform that had already been modified to electrification early on. Wouldn’t make sense to do a complete overhaul when they could develop a whole new product parallelly on the side that
Irrespective of the platform, EVs are a bad decision for Indian market. It is like a smartphone on wheels where the car will become scrap within 10 yrs. The batteries become weaker over time and after 8 yrs you need to spend half the price of the car to replace the battery. It is actually more carbon intensive, Americans are giving up on it now. India needs PHEVs to balance the life of car and climate change requirements.
But the data is telling a different story. In US EV penetration increased from 5.9% to 7.6% in 2023. The actual number comes around 1189051. Moreover as the industry matures EV'S are becoming as reliable as ICE.
Whatever tech talk you make, unless you improve the shitty service , it's all useless. Tata has to give periodic training to the sales executives as well as their service staff . They don't know anything about the tech that tata puts in their vehicles
Liked the approach they took for the acti.ev platform. So have they indicated the potential of this platform? In terms of power. Can't wait for a comparison with the INGLO platform (even though i agree INGLO is a skateboard).
sad to know, Citron eC3 has prismatic battery which is cheaper, but tata stuck with old cylindrical batteries. no wonder DC charging on beoard is limited to 30kw 😒
Our Punch EV First Drive Review drops today at 4pm on the channel. Until then, which range variant of the Punch EV would be your pick -- 315km or 421km?
I would pick the long range only for the higher power
Ask when we are going to get better charging speed and battery preconditioning? In delhi's cold weather charging times increases drastically.
Real range is 225 to 250 km stop fooling public. **
As I was on my toes to book an LR punch after knowing the real range of 250-270 I decided not to buy!
@@yatheesh999 what’s your daily km drive?
My kind request, while interviewing Tata officials you can also ask whether Tata really focusing on QC, fit and finish also after sales service. If they rectify those issues as soon as possible definitely Tata is unstoppable.
I agree. Their products from 2019 feel better finished from the factory than the newer ones after Tata became 2nd largest OEM. TML is yet to learn quality at these volumes, something Japanese understand a lot better.
Agree. I recently experienced Hyundai service. Tata service feels so much sub far in comparison
I agree.. and also ask them about refinement. Because Tata Nexon almost cost around 17 lakh but still Engine noise and vibrations are there.
Polo GT TSI owner here. Have been driving the polo for last 6-7 years. So spoiled and have high expectations from any car I drive. I test drove the punch ev today - empowered+ LR, and must say I am mighty impressed with it. The obvious EV benefits like punchy motors contribute to this no doubt, but then the surprise was that ride quality and suspensions were extremely pliant. It felt like an extremely well balanced tuning between perf and ride quality for this fairly tall and compact car. The test ride was quite short and I didn't get to drive it very extensively, so I might be speaking too soon. But whatever little I could get, I have come out impressed and interested. So far the Polo with the DSG was the ideal small footprint car for Bengaluru traffic, but this goes a notch higher. If only the salesman was a little less lacklustre, he could have gotten much closer to a cheque. :)
Excellent chat! Please Please Please, always also discuss charging infra, range, support and updates to the vehicle. Please
It's really surprising that these two gentlemen who are highly informed in their field did not ask those questions which a common man would love to do so..For example, the advertised range and what it actually delivers? Why are the fit and finish of Tata products always an issue? Why the customer service is not yet matching with that of its competitors etc. Maybe if they ask these uncomfortable questions, Tata might black list then. Who knows?
Did you even watch the video? He already clarified 300km+ on LR and 200+ on MR
@@shresthsonkar9207Boss the actual range is not more than 240km if you drive at 80 to 90 km speed. Of course it will increase if you drive it around 60km. Why should someone spend so much money to crawl on the highways?
@@Tklshriram71 I already have Nexon EV prime since 2y 20k km
I get 250km in city and 240km on highway on the lower range model (mine isn’t max)
And I drive the limit ie 80kmph because I’m in no mood to pay more for challan than toll and charging combined
Regarding 60kmph, I’d get 300kWh he if I wanted to drive at 60kmph on cruise without AC and 270 with AC
I’ve tried all sorts of combinations and 80kmph cruise is best for range + travel time, even on ice cars beyond 80 your mileage will reduce due to drag and most of all, unless it’s controlled access expy like Yamuna expy or samriddhi marg you are never safe even at 70-80 because anytime there can be some jaywalker or cattle or slow af bikers on normal NH
Also actual question like why EV are twice of Petrol?
Every EV Tata launched has seen that.
Why can't Tata manufacture EV profitabily at same level as ICE?
When can we have Price parity of EV with ICE
What is Tata's battery production plans?
Why isn't Tata actually investing in improving charging infra?
Looks like interviews are managed?
@@guru85vaale punch EV adventure LR costs ₹15L OTR, punch petrol AMT accomplished costs ₹11L OTR
How is it double price?
Have you seen how much features punch base model gets in petrol?
A car with more features costs more money? Blasphemy. Colour me surprised
And the punch EV still gets more safety features like 6airbag, TC, ESC, TPMS, better infotainment, better cluster and most of all, no laggy AMT - instead true automatic of EV + 9.5s 0-100 vs punch petrol with 20s 0-100
Eagerly waiting for a RWD ev from Tata. And a tutorial on how to drift it by Sirish sir😄
Hahaha! Let's hope that happens soon!
😅 can’t wait!
@@sirishch Could you please try with an EV? I think it will be an interesting challenge that no one has tried.
After Hindustan Motors and Premier Padmini era, Maruti Suzuki 800 1983 revolutionized car market. Since 2022 in Indian market TATA (Tata Passenger Electric Mobility Ltd) motors revolutionized EV sale.
They really have changed the game, the Nexon EV is the most sold in its segment.
@@evoIndia punch EV 👊 might turn sibling rival to Nexon EV in market sale
@@rajeshsiva6533They will launch new Nexon soon with additional features like panaromic roof but looks will remain same
Tata can think of introducing EVs in Winger segment for passenger utility. 🎉
Hey, thanks might be a nice idea!
I always worry about the warranty coverage conditions.
For example: Tata Punch ev comes with 8 years warranty, what does it cover exactly? What if the range falls down to 50% of what is given now after a certain time?
Will they replace battery for free or leave us to let scold Tata for the rest of the life. 😢
70% SoH for given warranty period ie range will not drop by more than 70%
If it does then it’s under warranty coverage
Some Nexon batteries were also swapped under warranty in early days due to mfg defect
I have watched his other interviews and about batteries and warranty he told, the benchmark is 80%. That means if it falls below 80% strength, its eligible for warranty within the period. He told, the predicted battery life is 2000 charging cycles, which means approximately 5 lakhs kms in real life range.
Team, you had a opportunity to ask real questions to Tata leadership but for some reason you didn't ask.
1)Why there's a significant difference between ARAI claimed range and real world range? From the data and real life experience, it's evident that Tata is doing poor in range category compared to Hyundai, MG
2)how is tata going to fix service issues.
3)why tata still not giving decent fast charging options even platform seems to be capable of.
There could have been more common issues that you could have asked. Bit disappointed.
1) the same reason as to why ICE car mileage never matches real mileage
Kona and MG also give 300-350km only, their WLTP range in Europe is 289km and 262km
Some nexon users even getting 150km range in full charge. That's pathetic @@shresthsonkar9207
They say it is a new platform but charging speeds are still horrible, no one wants to wait for 2 hours on a charging station. 150kW fast charging where?
This is a biggest problem in Tata, new gen Nexon now is coming with 7kW onboard charger, people suffered with charging speeds.
QC, Fit Finish and ASS ?? When will anything improve is the question that should be asked .
@12:30 A correct question... Appreciate you ask it
Tata gonna reveal when they're gonna come up with 800v architecture?
For me, this looks like a lost opportunity.
Could have asked about battery chemistry, sourcing..
What are they planning for charging infrastructure?
How are they planning to face/compete against the tesla in the future?
How much feasible is a 4 meter electric van like Venture, with this platform ? Is it on cards ?
Tata is deliberately pricing it's EVs at a premium despite battery pricing hitting all time low to protect its ICE cars sales. They can do so because of lack of options in India's ev car market. Also please ask about battery pre conditioning for charging in cold conditions like 0 to 10 degrees.
Are they looking for rear lights redesign punch new EV. Actually it's laks that futuristic design they already have in other vehicles.
When we expect the new design Punch on petrol car's?
Why tata is not producing cara with two motors (front and back motors)
So is this Tata’s born ev platform or an intermediate to a proper skateboard plateform?
Born EV will be gen 3 like avinya
Born EV will be gen 3 like avinya
Need of the hour EV 🔥😁
Do let us know what you think of the Punch EV.
Can Tata increase 35kw battery size of punch to get real world range of 500 km?
@evoIndia
Could you check and let us know whether Altroz EV coming or not
That's still a while away
It will come. When don’t know
@@evoIndia
Thanks
Can I expect at least in 2025
Waiting for curvv EV. Punch vunch nahi. but still good.
We should hear about that soon.
How ethical is it to release the NEV facelift 23, knowing that a dedicated ev platform is ready, and in the next three months punch EV will be released?
Are you, TAMO not cheating the customers who bought NEV facelift paying so much for a non EV platform?
The NEV facelift could also have been released on the newer platform!. What do you say about this?
Waiting for rwd and fwd Tata cars
Punch.ev is support Vehicle to Load or not
No
Unfortunately, the Punch EV doesn't have V2L and V2V capabilities.
That hmm hmm in between !
Could have avoided that
Thanks for the feedback.
It's called being natural.
In future range of Tata Punch EV can increase
Har Tata Showroom ke baare
Ev charging station hona chahie
TAMO must give a variant by combining the lower power motor 80bhp with the higher Battery pack 35kWh to increase the practical range. It will reduce overall cost also. No need of So much power & torque in city conditions. Customers will like that combination much more.
Take this official to court, he should be arrested. They are fooling public saying range of electric vehicle is 400km but real range is 225 to 250 hardly. Shame on tata motors
ARAI tests range and mileage not Tata
It’s govt agency they’ll never reform the testing procedures
421 Adventure
What about this variant makes you choose it?
Super value for money. No compromise on range, max utility features.
Greatly designed product, but very badly manufactured in quality car.
Why wasn't the new nexon ev launched on the acti.ev platform?
The Nexon is underpinned by an older platform that had already been modified to electrification early on. Wouldn’t make sense to do a complete overhaul when they could develop a whole new product parallelly on the side that
@@evoIndia isn't the curvv based on the nexon's x1 platform, and that will be coming with the acti.ev underpinnings
Irrespective of the platform, EVs are a bad decision for Indian market. It is like a smartphone on wheels where the car will become scrap within 10 yrs. The batteries become weaker over time and after 8 yrs you need to spend half the price of the car to replace the battery. It is actually more carbon intensive, Americans are giving up on it now. India needs PHEVs to balance the life of car and climate change requirements.
But the data is telling a different story. In US EV penetration increased from 5.9% to 7.6% in 2023. The actual number comes around 1189051. Moreover as the industry matures EV'S are becoming as reliable as ICE.
Batteries have a proven life of 12000 charge cycles. 1000 is what most people would use in 10 years. After 4000, capacity drops to 80%
"Hmm" "hmm" is very irritating.
Thanks for the feedback.
Not really.
Whatever tech talk you make, unless you improve the shitty service , it's all useless. Tata has to give periodic training to the sales executives as well as their service staff . They don't know anything about the tech that tata puts in their vehicles
Liked the approach they took for the acti.ev platform. So have they indicated the potential of this platform? In terms of power. Can't wait for a comparison with the INGLO platform (even though i agree INGLO is a skateboard).
It's performance capabilities is something we would only know as and when cars based on it are launched.
@@evoIndia That's fair. But I am excited for the inevitable comparo.
sad to know, Citron eC3 has prismatic battery which is cheaper, but tata stuck with old cylindrical batteries. no wonder DC charging on beoard is limited to 30kw 😒