I'm Glad It's Over | Part 4 of The Overly Long Tirade on the Overly Long Tirade
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- The Tirade on the Tirade is over! Having addressed my past content I can now direct my time towards doing more interesting things! Yay!
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The man who ranted about character development being overrated, showing character development irl
Lol
and funny enough Crafts character development is kinda underrated lol
@@Crunchysopa52 agreed man
I am glad you did made the Fairy Tail Tirade since that video was the one that introduced your channel to me
Same
Fairy Tail is what got me into anime and for that I'll be forever grateful. While I watched your earlier videos and agreed with some points I am extremely glad you made this retrospective self critique. I think you're awesome and that you keep doing the work you do
Its very interesting, While I don't love Fairy Tail, I definitely admit i was sucked into the hate bandwagon back in 2014-2016(7), but my hate wasn't really hate, but more so dissappointment.
But now I'm getting older and tend to look back on the series and re-watching arcs and re-reading, I feel Hiro mashima/FT is just maybe a tiny bit overrhated (if thats a word). It had ideas and concepts I think were interesting some (and I mean some) of the characters were fun to watch fight-wise/character-wise, but perhaps there just ideas that weren't executed the strongest and but some complaints I feel are very overplayed, but I understand the complaints (Erza slashing that meteorite was still bullshit for example)
I was also sucked in the bandwagon. I’m rereading it and I remember that I really loved the beginning parts of fairy tail. I still hate the fanservice in serious moments and the fake deaths and some of the things in the last arc (might be more I’m not there yet) though.
Being disappointed is a very direct gateway for hate, which is what happened to fairy tail. Fairy Tail is not the bottom of the barrel trash many portray it as, but it soured enough people's perception of it that it may as well be.
I wasn't really that sucked in the Bandwagon since I enjoyed at the Start but the Problems REALLY started later on in the Arcs like with Tenrou Island and Grand Magic Games that seem to slowly escalate Highlighting more problems of Mashima's Writing
@@jonathandesrosiers8154 The Problems come into later parts
@@murderman8578 i know what you mean. I guess what I mean about bandwagon is that I just agreed with what everyone said was bad and never formed my own opinion or understood what hiro was trying to convey to the reader. There were some that I did agree with but I was mostly just being part of the hate train. That’s why I’m rereading to see if I think it’s absolute garbage or just ok.
Fairy Tail? More like wow Wendy’s pretty h-
Uh oh-
OPEN UP!!! ITS THE FBI
-elpful in many arcs
@@sergeanthuman Genius comment.
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I admire your willingness to shine a light on your past work and admit you were off about it.
Fairy tail holds a special place in my heart. It reminds me of a more innocent, carefree time in my life.
I've started realize that as I got older, Fairy Tail is like comfort food for me now, I didn't know what to think of it when I was in high school, but now i'm like, this is not bad, not perfect, but enjoyable.
@@mistersureshot1749 exactly! Rewatching the show is like visiting a group of old friends again. It's nice
So, you might not believe this, but I am the person whose tweet was referenced in that clip you used from the Just Weebs podcast (although when I first saw the clip I didn't know they were talking about me LOL) and I would just like to say....Thank you. I am not as much of a Fairy Tail expert as you, I am not good at making counter-arguments, so whenever I saw your tirade or people who said similar things, I genuinely didn't know how to counteract them, I tried to just not watch the videos and just ignore what haters said, but I also didn't want to be some kind of blind fanboy. As the years went on and I more and more saw Fairy Tail hate become just commonplace to the point where the idea that Fairy Tail is a bad series that somehow got popular was normal and it felt like there was something wrong with me for not only finding enjoyment out of FT, but finding a strong deep emotional connection to it (for context it was the Weekly Battle Shonen that completely held my interest throughout the entirety of my teenage years. It was THE anime that carried me throughout all of Highschool). So I spent years feeling like I was fucked up in the heads, and even after reconciling that yes FT is my favorite anime (Which I didn't fully realize until after watching the anime's final season) I still have this hesitation in saying that. Seeing this video series from you genuinely helps alleviate that tension and stress. So again I will say, thank you for honestly making me feel like it is okay to be a Fairy Tail fan. Also last thing, OF COURSE there's nothing wrong with people having issues. Hell, I kinda like the Lucy fanservice so even we aren't gonna see eye to eye on everything, but I completely understand your perspective just as how I'm sure you understand mine. Fairy Tail is not a perfect anime/manga, I will never say it is, but it is my favorite and I have your new tirade to thank in part for making me feel comfortable with saying that.
It's like all these jabs out of nowhere. Certain videos that have nothing to do with FT suddenly bring up the whole "Haha Fairy Tail bad am I right guys ?"
@@erois6190 Honestly in a lot of ways those moments kind of do MORE harm than even something like Craftsdwarf's tirade because they reinforce this notion that it's just an accepted stigma/fact that Fairy Tail is completely terrible. Stuff like that makes it so that fans will always have to have this hesitation and have to be pre-emptive when they say Fairy Tail is their favorite anime.
No matter how you slice I still think that bringing up Siege his element was just plain akward. I think the best course of action would have just been to let the fans write their letters. I bet fans would have loved to discuss and theorize about it. I am pretty sure that nowadays Mashima would do it differently.
I honestly don't understand what's awkward about that honestly
@@Nothingness4907 It is akward because Siege has nothing to do with what is currently going on. It is a bit weird that Ruby of all people would suddenly bring up Siege his supposed element. It's like sitting in math class and the teacher suddenly talks about how Robert Downey Jr. weighs about 172 pounds.
@@Avatarbee In JoJo this would be perfectly normal lol
But anyway I don't find it that strange, I mean, the only real Wizard they've ever met and fought is Sieg, it was Sieg himself who made Ruby realize that he has potential as a Wizard
The scene was an exposition of how the elemental system works for each, so to take Sieg as an example saying that there are those like him who have all the elements is just completing the exposition with a figure familiar to them
When I was a little younger and a little angrier, I loved your old tirade, as someone who considered himself a former fan at the time, it resonnated with me, and now that I'm a little older and wiser myself, I'm glad to see you develop the same way. I didn't agree with all of the counterpoints, but in as many words, it's a series with flaws but does genuinely do many things well.
A few stray thoughts...
- I do think Jellal's redemption arc was a bit mishandled, precisely because of the "mind control" angle. It felt unearned to me, as while Jellal was under a worse person's influence, he still did every terrible thing shown in the Tower of Heaven willingly, and ultimately for nothing. His sudden path to redemption via Oracion Seis Arc thus felt underdone and wrong because he didn't examine his actions and grow from it, he just forgot about the specific bad things he did. It feels like that redemption could have worked better with his underlings who escaped largely unharmed, or at least taken in a more gradual, tangible direction. On a tangentially related note, him being Erza's love interest also leaves a bad taste in my mouth because while both are trying to move past trauma, Jellal is in fact directly responsible for a large amount of Erza's trauma (as an aside, I think Lucy would be Erza's best love interest among the cast, they just have amazing chemistry when Mashima lets them have scenes together).
-The "generic fantasy" thing really rings hollow to me, as I actually see Fairy Tail's setting as somewhat unique. To me, it's a world in transition from high fantasy to urban fantasy, and that's conceptually great. I may personally be more invested in more development and worldbuilding around such a concept, especially something like the Magic Council and how it affects politics in the setting, but as you mentioned, you can't fault something for kids to focus more on simpler adventures. And hey, I'm a writer myself, maybe I'll develop a setting like that more in that direction some day.
Anyway, it's great to see these things come full circle, carry on and keep up the good work!
Jellal was a villain in the sense of Ultear pulling a Hawk Moth on him. He and Erza have a connection based on shared trauma.
@@matt0044 no, she just pushed him to do things he did of his own free will. Jellal is 100% responsible for his actions
@@heywoodjablome5380 That's a bit more complex with the whole "child slave" and his feelings of dehumanization.
Also isn't he the head of Crime Sorceree?
@@matt0044 by your logic, Allison Mack should have been let go because she didn't found NXIVM
@@heywoodjablome5380 I don't get that reference.
I prefer restorative justice that just the old "lock 'em and demonize criminals" approach.
... I can’t believe this character arc, but I love it.
Anyway, as your first videos on this topic aired I was very strongly with you, but over time I somewhat warmed up for it, I too was just frustrated about the direction and how it was portrayed but later I realized that, at least for me, the strong points, the emotional moments(IMO), were always good.. guess I was just frustrated that it didn’t seem coherent.
So I was somewhat negative toward how I felt for the series and even though I don’t particularly like it I recognize that now I can say that I was wrong.
And then came your videos about and I was just like: damn, is that sign of maturity?
This was beautiful man. We all need to keep improving!
I said it in the first video but your RUclips videos are what made me check out Fairy Tail initially. Mostly I did it because I wanted to see if it was really as bad as you claimed. As someone who ended up really enjoying the series I have to say that it’s fantastic to see this retrospective. This was really cathartic to see and I honestly want to say that I respect you for doing so. Even after getting into the series because of you it always felt weird that you hated it so much. Hearing you admit that you were perhaps being a bit harsh was really refreshing, I just wanted to let you know that I think this is legitimately a great video series.
I absolutely can't wait for you to review/make a video on EdenZero one day and compare how Mashima's writing has once again leveled up. For the longest time, I personally considered Fairy Tail one of my favorite animes, despite acknowledging its deficiencies and problems, and, while I never got into Rave, I always "got" why others liked it - the aesthetic, certain characters, one of the few battle shonens that kept dead characters actually dead (shock). EdenZero, in a way, is the best first-hand proof anyone, even Mashima's critics, needs to see that Mashima is always learning and growing as an author/artist. Not only have his stories improved, I've grown even fonder and fonder of his character designs and environmental expertise as time has gone on and, imo, EdenZero is the absolute best work he's put out so far.
Thank you for all the work you put into this, Craftsdwarf, and I'm looking forward to continuing watching your constant evolution, just like Mashima.
Thank you sooooo much. As a person that holders this anime so close to my heart it feels so good the few times I get to see someone that see all the great things it has and not just for it's shortcomings. You are a goat
Matured Craftsdraft just destroyed Young Craftsdwarf. Are you part of the EMIYA family?
I stand by saying Homura from Eden Zero is a better written Erza.
Simply for not having a romance plot.
Yet
So let’s just ignore that the latest chapters revealed a uh
Romance plot
@@WatTheWut wait seriously, nothing wrong with a romance plot but seriously
@@WatTheWut Which chapters are you talking about?
There hasn't really been much romance so far.
Love is the central driving force behind characters Mashima-sensei creates. Romance is just one form of love. So far, I have enjoyed both Erza and Homura's characters tremendously. I find both inspiring and captivating. I don't consider either reflections of the other or characters that are designed to serve such a purpose. Erza's romance plot with Jellal served to provide conflict with her inner self and in a sense help to strip the armor surrounding her heart. It was also during her moments with Jellal that the readers got to see a side of Erza she didn't reveal to anyone else. Those vulnerable moments provided a necessary contrast to her usual commanding self.
As for Homura, the story behind Homura's bond with Valkyrie and how Homura saw her as more than a machine was incredibly endearing. The bonds connecting Homura and Valkyrie's hearts conveyed how complex life can be and how transcendent the emotions shared between spirits of different existences are. Beyond form, there is the substance that lies within. At present, Homura doesn't need a romance plot but stories can evolve and characters can change. The latest chapters didn't have anything to do with romance, instead the events serve to remind Homura how much she loved her mentor, friend and mother.
With Rave I feel there's more consistency and consequences with the Death of Characters compared to FT but I feel that Mashima can do so much better and not feeling like he's living up to his Potential
Omedetou. It's been a long journey indeed
Its funny, I use to love it then I was made to feel bad about it and got on the hate train but when I revisited after realizing I shouldn't care what others think about what I like, I couldn't help loving it again. Moments like Lucy saving Leo, how Fairy Tail went to war to protect their own on multiple occasions and so forth. Not to mention how much the guild is about freedom to do what you want as well as a place to belong, something I think people overlook. One Piece with the Straw Hat Pirates is the only other place I can recall seeing something like this which is why I think One Piece fans should like Fairy Tail.
Yeah. Funny enough what made me go re read it after being swindled by the hate train was Opening 21.
I don't hate Fairytail (otherwise why finish a story I dislike?), but halfway through the series, it just disappointed me. Fairytail is just that kind of show that constantly reminds you it can be something better. I'm mostly fine with everything up until the Dragon Festival arc, and from there and onwards, Mashima sets up these engaging arcs, infinitely better than the past ones, only to cheapen their conclusions by having them be resolved in an unrewarding way. The final arc was the worst offender. Acnologia literally went out of his way to ensure he could be defeated, and that's because Mashima had written himself into a corner with him. In fact, a decent amount of this arc was Mashima writing himself into corners.
I'm completely aware that "The Power of Friendship" is literally a mechanic in Fairytail, but before the Dragon Festival arc, the Power of Friendship was always supported by the writing. Like when Natsu defeated Hades, for example. Every part in that arc participated in Hades' defeat. The reader can see and comprehend the order of events, and we don't have to ponder things like Fire being able to burn Time (wtf?).
Still, I'll never tell people that Fairytail is bad. The characters and its world are still the most enjoyable parts of the series. I just wish SuperEyepatchWolf made a video like this instead of doubling down while clearly not rereading the series.
Out of context it sounds like you're saying Eyepatch Wolf also made this mistake with Fairy Tail LOL. Don't worry, I know you're referring to Bleach and I completely agree that these videos from Craftsdwarf are what Eyepatch Wolf's second Bleach video should have been.
Hey Craftsdwarf, what are your thoughts on Edens zero so far?
WHY ARE YOUR THUMBNAILS SO BAD????
But I love the thumbnail it's shows that he is a nerd of anime like me
lol, you are right, you gotta step up craftsdwarf
I almost missed this upload it just blended in to all the other stuff I don't watch
WHY ARE YOUR COMMENT IN ALL CAPS!!!!
Heh
This might have been tackled in some of your previous vids, but can we get a video tackling character development in One Piece?
Love seeing people talkin well about Fairy Tail.
I always found the hate SO unffair, Yes, I knew it has different Narrative Flaws, but it was still a beautifull unique Anime for me. I know how disappointing Alvarez was in different aspect, but a simple disappointment, for some reason, turned into hate.
The ony thing I know is that I Love Fairy Tail and always will
“Jellal is a simp.”
👀
Great video man please talk about Radiant and Dreamland they seriously need some love
you know, i just finished rave masters, i'm currently watching fairy tail with a friend, toda i decided to look more into what others thought about rave. its interesting to see what 4 years can do to someones opinion. in case your interested i genuinely liked fairy tail. i geniunely think that zeref was well made, but i barely had anyone who i could talk to about it.
I love your videos
This series went from a genuine critique to an apology for even having an opinion on the series. It seems to me whoever commented / the feedback you received on the first couple videos were so massive that you had to totally flip your point
A bit false.He simply disagreed with his previous opinions and in fact , compared to other videos , his original tirade had a more positive feedback than other videos who were also breaking down why fairy tail is bad .
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ive probably rewatched FT 10-20 times, and each time i find something i like more or dislike more. i remember not liking the last season, but when i rewatched it, my real only complaint was how rushed the ending was. I think the things FT does differently it does fairly well, like ultimately the guild being the protagonist. for me, when i watch FT i feel like a guild member, but when i watch One Piece i dont feel like a crewmate, or when i watch mha i dont feel like im in class 1a. and i think thats definitely the most defining compliment about fairy tail.
Do you know how awkward it would have been if you made these vids back in 2017?
Just the thought would be dramatic, and you would get flooded with hate
I’m glad u woke up
A lot of comments below claiming along the lines of “your videos vocalized why I disliked Fairy Tail” are missing the point. Craft is going back to his earlier videos where he was early into his analysis days and finds that years of experience expose to him the fallacies, half-truths and flat out misinformation he perpetrated.
No one has to agree with him but these videos advocate to be more open minded and to be less Nostalgia Critic-y.
Just wanted to let you know that your text version link isn’t working
Craftsdawf please make a video on black clover it's my second favorite anime and it's good really good
Too bad he doesn't look at comments :/
@@thedevilsadvocate7132 aww man
2:53 jokes on you I knew it through it game ha
I still agree with your original assessments. FT was enjoyable up until maybe the alternate universe arc. But it's combat/power systems are too simplistic and inconsistent, it's relies too much on friendship power (other shows are guilty of this, but FT I find takes the cake), the characters fall into repeating development arcs, and the world building simply wasn't interesting after a few seasons. I don't hate FT or the people who watch read it. If someone says it's good, I generally just leave off it. But when compared to other series that cover these aspects simply better, I can't help but disagree.
People should be allowed to watch what they like without being hated on. This I agree with. But Fairy Tale was guilty of some horribly lazy writing, which is fine because something doesn't have to be a masterpiece to be enjoyed, but to say it's got anything special really gives it more than it deserves.
Don’t care. I rate it a 9/10.
Please make a video about the storyline of Kamen Rider Zi O 😃
Oh.
I'm a lost One Piece fan.
dope
Nobody told me Fairy Tail sucks, I soured on it over time, and I went from liking it to really disliking it until I got sick of it.
Plz read edens zero
I personally think that the originall rants are fine. Leaps of logic are just as huge as mashimas writing and asspulls. So it checks out👍
Did you view the videos?
@@matt0044 yes?
Based
Its a sad day watching someone go from a legit critic into a sellout
Truely indeed
Huh?
Sell out to what? His new opinions from new life experiences.
Personally, I really love Fairy Tail (talking about the manga because I haven't watched all the anime). It may not challenge the darker themes it does begin to voyage into but what Fairy Tail does have is heart, and a lot of it. It's emotionally powerful scenes drive the story, the character development and the characters themselves.
As is with life, there is a darker side of your mind that you can become absorbed within. What Fairy Tail has helped achieve through its moving and inspiring content, at least with me, is the ability to empower a languishing mind with its magic of love, joy and humour. As simple as it sounds, Fairy Tail is able to calm the heart and reach deep within the layers of the individual. Through the darkness and beyond walls of doubt to animate feelings of delight, happiness and wonder. Like the sun shining through after a storm, the warmth Fairy Tail represents is a comforting one. For myself, I have long since considered Fairy Tail to be very therapeutic.
Even through the issues I have with Fairy Tail, I have been able to enjoy it all and I have come to love Fairy Tail immensely. Thank you Fairy Tail and thank you Mashima-sensei.