A Brief History of the Culture Wars

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @Tom_Nicholas
    @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +652

    Support me to make more videos like this (whilst getting early access and bonus stuff) by heading to patreon.com/tomnicholas

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +39

      And, as always, thanks for watching!

    • @thisguy8106
      @thisguy8106 4 года назад +13

      @@Tom_Nicholas thanks for all your hard work!!!!

    • @denvorsden7903
      @denvorsden7903 4 года назад +17

      Good work. This video has a lot of good content with awesome presentation with the necessary seriousness, sensitivity and scholarship that the topic demands.

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +11

      My pleasure-thanks for taking the time to watch!

    • @alexsmith2910
      @alexsmith2910 4 года назад +4

      Subscribed and loving your content.

  • @MrARock001
    @MrARock001 Год назад +2047

    The biggest eye-opener for me was the realization that what they really, really, *really* don't want you to do is have any idea of what socialism really is.

    • @pafaxu3757
      @pafaxu3757 Год назад +13

      What do you mean?

    • @noahandreasen9221
      @noahandreasen9221 Год назад +17

      What exactly do you mean? (Just rather Said what do you believe socialism is?)

    • @banquetoftheleviathan1404
      @banquetoftheleviathan1404 Год назад +117

      socialism is a type of food

    • @tannermcateer1463
      @tannermcateer1463 Год назад +127

      “A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what’s going on. A psychotic is someone who’s found out what’s going on.” -Bill Burroughs

    • @stapuft
      @stapuft Год назад +1

      really? huh, cuz all i got was "socialism is fucking retarded"

  • @PirateQueen1720
    @PirateQueen1720 4 года назад +488

    36:38 I love how there is a protest banner stating "If you give artists freedom of expression, soon every American will want it!"...as if that is a bad thing. But I guess that bafflement reveals which side of the culture war I'm on, huh?

    • @tauronmitronion377
      @tauronmitronion377 4 года назад +110

      I assumed that banner was sarcastic.

    • @Palbizu
      @Palbizu 4 года назад +19

      Yeah pay a little more attention there. I thought it was bad at first and then I looked into what the picture was

    • @InternetMameluq
      @InternetMameluq 4 года назад +2

      FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

    • @InternetMameluq
      @InternetMameluq 4 года назад +80

      @Matthew Reichlin It still is the province of the left. The right wants freedom from expression.

    • @TheEvilCheesecake
      @TheEvilCheesecake 4 года назад +127

      @Matthew Reichlin maybe think about which side tries to shut down legitimate criticism by shouting "are you triggered lololol" and "why are you bringing politics into this".

  • @Aspensauce64
    @Aspensauce64 3 года назад +632

    When human rights can be packaged as politics without question, whether people deserve to live with rights and dignity becomes just a matter of opinion

    • @antebagaric1970
      @antebagaric1970 Год назад

      What ARE 'human rights'? What is the foundation of such an idea? Do animals have 'rights'? How about insects, do they have 'rights'? Plants? Microbes? Viruses? Rocks?

    • @atomictree5000
      @atomictree5000 Год назад +3

      Too true

    • @solushyperborea
      @solushyperborea Год назад

      yeah agreed, dont think its a good idea to have people worrying about larping like a video game character about being the wrong gender when our lands are being flooded with infinite orc immigration from ARABIA. we have bigger issues u can be a uwu transgender femboy catboy AFTER WE FIX THIS SHIT

    • @avacadomangobanana2588
      @avacadomangobanana2588 Год назад +17

      That’s how conservatives want it.

    • @yungmuney5903
      @yungmuney5903 Год назад +23

      "It's just an opinion bro"
      For as exactly as long as it takes to make it law.

  • @SecondThought
    @SecondThought 4 года назад +2957

    You're killing it with these recent videos! Always a great watch.

    • @lavendervonstaro4004
      @lavendervonstaro4004 4 года назад +33

      How are you?

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +279

      Cheers JT, glad you’ve been enjoying them! Hope you’re well!

    • @Daye04
      @Daye04 3 года назад +19

      @yezede relegen I think you might have misread, friend

    • @TRex-dd4ze
      @TRex-dd4ze 3 года назад

      Gotta check out Pat Buchanan's The Death of the West: ruclips.net/video/RZ5l8_TQmgA/видео.html

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 2 года назад +4

      @yezede relegen not who are you, how, and to add to that description he is some sort of marxist, and criticises the US and in general is against military spending and other stuff

  • @iamthesword1180
    @iamthesword1180 4 года назад +673

    German Historian here: The German Kulturkampf was mainly a struggle between the Catholics and the Empire, especially the chancellor Otto von Bismarck. The main goal of Bismarck was to eliminate all church influence from the decision making processes of the state, for example by introducing the civil marriage as a new standard. In Bismarck's mind, a German should not have another major allegiance beside the nation - like for example the Pope in Rome (he called Catholics "Ultramontane" (ultramontanes), stressing their loyalty to another power on the other side of the Alps). Additionally, he hoped to weaken the Catholic party Zentrum, one of the biggest opposition parties in the Empire and a major concurrence for the Conservatives.
    This has to be seen in a wider perspective of his attempt to strengthen the interior cohesion of the young Empire, the first united German National State (founded in 1871), and to secure the power of the Kaiser. Therefore he declared organisations with transnational affiliations "Reichsfeinde" (enemies of the Empire). For the same reason, he attacked the rising Social Democrat movement with the fierce "Sozialistengesetze" (anti-socialist laws).

    • @GreMnMlin
      @GreMnMlin 4 года назад +41

      If I recall correctly wasn't the Kulturkampf also directed at national minorities like Poles, Silesians, and Kashubians?

    • @philgwellington6036
      @philgwellington6036 4 года назад +13

      Thank you for the additional information.

    • @iamthesword1180
      @iamthesword1180 4 года назад +88

      @@GreMnMlin There were repressions against minorities, especially against the Polish which were seen as potential rebels after two upheavals during the 19th century, but those were not strictly part of the Kulturkampf. BUT: There were points were the two fields overlaped, because some minorities (again: especially the Polish) were mostly catholic.

    • @GreMnMlin
      @GreMnMlin 4 года назад +16

      @@iamthesword1180 thanks for the quick response and the clarification I'd always just grouped the Kulturkampf and Polish repression together

    • @mitchgunzler3737
      @mitchgunzler3737 4 года назад +27

      If only America’s “Culture War” were an echo of Bismarck!
      1) Bismarck was remarkable and successful in part for waging that “war” with accommodation and compromise. I know this technically happens in the following years, but German national identity was built in part on unifying institutions like national insurance, as he “attacked” Social Democrats by coopting their proposals. America’s Culture War seems to have gone in the opposite direction, with any hint of Social Democracy or compromise radically demonized.
      2) I know it’s considered rude to draw these connections, but the idea of a culture war didn’t exactly disappear after Bismarck, did it? Weren’t the kirchenkampf and other elements important later?

  • @TheGravelInstitute
    @TheGravelInstitute 4 года назад +2240

    Wow! This is a masterpiece.

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +397

      Thanks! Feel free to drop me a line if you ever need a British contributor!

    • @marciamakesmusic
      @marciamakesmusic 4 года назад +9

      @Akul Rastogi you can like, not watch the whole thing

    • @abdurrazzaq2314
      @abdurrazzaq2314 4 года назад +11

      @Akul Rastogi it has been divided already into multiple parts, i know long videos can mar comprehension, if you think this is the case watch the whole thing in multiple viewings.

    • @ohmiohwa4199
      @ohmiohwa4199 4 года назад +38

      @The Gravel Institute
      Give this man a episode.

    • @jm5386
      @jm5386 4 года назад +12

      It sure is, a masterpiece. Thank you.
      Divisional cultural wars reappeared under Trump, but I would suggest that they had remained throughout, and well engrained in society (especially the religious right) which had 30 years to politically organize with big dark money, indoctrination and political, institutional power. They were just waiting for a Trump.
      Very nicely done....an educational tool.

  • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
    @CivilWarWeekByWeek 4 года назад +1610

    The Battle of Pepe the frog. We lost many good men that day try to take discord hill

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +297

      Haha, I think all the "what if the culture wars was a real war lol" jokes in the introduction were the reason I had to try and save this one from demonitisation...

    • @carrion1234
      @carrion1234 4 года назад +76

      Their sacrifice was not in vain, the enemy was forced back into the sewers where the Groypers live.

    • @dandylionsloth446
      @dandylionsloth446 4 года назад +1

      +

    • @TheMinorityGAMER312
      @TheMinorityGAMER312 4 года назад

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    • @Ayy_Doll_Fiddler
      @Ayy_Doll_Fiddler 4 года назад +27

      Kekistanis are the bravest warriors I've ever seen.

  • @Jose30Yoga
    @Jose30Yoga 4 года назад +2085

    This man deserves his phd and a much higher subscriber count

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +481

      Haha, thanks. Almost there with the first thing at least!

    • @kalebmark2908
      @kalebmark2908 4 года назад +115

      @@Tom_Nicholas You're working on a PHD? that's sick!

    • @TempestAmethyst
      @TempestAmethyst 4 года назад +72

      I saw this comment and realized I wasn't subscribed despite watching literally hours of this guy's content, so thanks for helping me see the light 😆

    • @jasonboakye4526
      @jasonboakye4526 4 года назад +7

      @@TempestAmethyst same

    • @ninety1nethagawd
      @ninety1nethagawd 4 года назад +12

      don't we all deserve comfortable wealth?

  • @Squirr3lBoy300
    @Squirr3lBoy300 2 года назад +298

    I was wondering why you sound so much more vastly educated than the average political RUclipsr and it turns out you have a PhD😳 you're very good at this content creation thing!!

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 2 года назад +2

      The Right seem
      deep in the Culture-War and to be brutally honest: The Left
      seems to care less. Thats how it looks for me; for me on the Outside.
      But either side is anyway not looking enough at actual, real, not-trivial Issues.
      The Leftists (not Dem's) are just better at adressing Problems.
      Look at the Video "Obvious Solutions to Glaring Problems" by 'Some More News'.
      Be My Guest: See how different the Approach is
      and how problems are actually understood+tackled.

    • @Darticus42
      @Darticus42 Год назад +20

      He also articulates his points very well and I think has that sort of... I forget how to describe it... slow, methodical manner of speaking that people psychologically tend to associate with thoughtful, deliberately-spoken people.

  • @tanalincia6314
    @tanalincia6314 4 года назад +744

    I just have to say how impressed I am at your presentation skills. The creation of the content is of course wonderful but your ability to articulate your points and the flow in which you do it is astonishingly good. You just have a very natural speaking and presentation voice and demeanor that makes listening to and absorbing the material that much easier. Well done.

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +65

      Thank you so much, that's very kind of you to say!

    • @tanalincia6314
      @tanalincia6314 4 года назад +1

      @@linuswang6572 lol okay troll.

    • @TheMinorityGAMER312
      @TheMinorityGAMER312 4 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/OKdNw8aDTsA/видео.html

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu 2 года назад +1

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @fugitiveunknown7806
    @fugitiveunknown7806 4 года назад +974

    *noting the lobster*
    Hey kids, remember, Ketamine is a hell of a drug.

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +109

      Haha. I'm really glad someone noticed that!

    • @robbiestoly9071
      @robbiestoly9071 4 года назад +1

      Powdered astral trip.

    • @GnuReligion
      @GnuReligion 4 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/Q_4bp8bBNVw/видео.html

    • @126theman
      @126theman 4 года назад

      How else will we stop the SSE?

    • @Palbizu
      @Palbizu 4 года назад +10

      @@Tom_Nicholas I immediately knew exactly what you did lmao. Subtle JP jab lmao

  • @richardpodnar5039
    @richardpodnar5039 3 года назад +84

    The thoroughness of this presentation is mind-boggling. Not a dull moment at all.

  • @Phi1618033
    @Phi1618033 2 года назад +1095

    It's ironic that Tom's attempt at a balanced perspective between progressivism and conservativism is, itself, inherently progressive, because conservativism, by definition, is not a balanced perspective.

    • @davefrompa5334
      @davefrompa5334 2 года назад +63

      "Conservatism, by definition, is not a balanced perspective." Really? Why is that? Because you said so?

    • @matta6088
      @matta6088 2 года назад +285

      @@davefrompa5334 I'd figure that conservatism could be called unbalanced because it is an attitude around self-assuredness that the established way is best, giving no or shallow thought to new ideas.

    • @davefrompa5334
      @davefrompa5334 2 года назад

      @@matta6088 Yeah? How about this? If something isn't broke, don't fix it, especially if it has a proven track record. That doesn't mean you can't make minor improvements, but you don't throw out the baby with the bath water. Most of the Left's "bold new ideas" are things that have been debunked time and time again, often at the cost of countless people's lives Example-Communism

    • @noishfanboy1141
      @noishfanboy1141 2 года назад +49

      @@matta6088 I think conservativism Is more about rejecting new ideas and wanting to stick with what works.
      To me I don't think it's inherently imbalanced bc not all new ideas are good and therefore conservativism rejecting all of them is both good and bad depending on what the idea is and how it evens out depends on what the new ideas are in a society

    • @noishfanboy1141
      @noishfanboy1141 2 года назад +1

      @@dirtydeeds4free553 so your saying that hes progressive but not neccescarily aligning with the typical western progressive values

  • @jackvac1918
    @jackvac1918 4 года назад +1115

    "or an interpretation of what is natural." *shows lobster
    _I see what you did there._

    • @kpadjo
      @kpadjo 4 года назад +115

      Sorry this is really random but I have a serious phobia of lobsters and this comment gave me a heads up to close my eyes at the right moment. Just wanted to let you know you saved someone across the world a lot of anxiety. Thank you 😇

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 4 года назад +97

      Clean your room

    • @AB-gw6uf
      @AB-gw6uf 4 года назад +8

      Sorry, but could someone explain this joke? Don't really get it

    • @rogergalindo7318
      @rogergalindo7318 4 года назад +111

      @@AB-gw6uf i guess is something related to a popular argument or something by Jordan Peterson, in which he argues that the social stricter of lobsters shows hierarchical order in nature. don’t quote me though, i may be wrong

    • @AB-gw6uf
      @AB-gw6uf 4 года назад +19

      @@rogergalindo7318 Ah okay, that makes sense
      Thanks for the reply

  • @MrOuija-rr8kq
    @MrOuija-rr8kq 4 года назад +131

    As a veteran of the war on Christmas, Thank You!

    • @EroticHam
      @EroticHam 3 года назад +5

      ✊✊✊✊✊

    • @Friendly_Neigborhood_Astolfo
      @Friendly_Neigborhood_Astolfo Год назад +6

      Oh God that must have been cringe to deal with.
      Lemme guess someone got butthurt when a cashier said "Happy Holidays" or "Happy/Merry Non-Xmas holiday here" instead of "Merry Xmas?"

    • @rustomkanishka
      @rustomkanishka 4 месяца назад +3

      It should have always been Saturnalia! Heathen!

  • @brigitte7113
    @brigitte7113 4 года назад +185

    Great video! I'm always blown away by your ability to weave together a coherent story about large amorphous concepts!

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +17

      Thanks Brigitte, that's really kind of you to say! I'm really glad you liked it!

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu 2 года назад

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @oxherder9061
    @oxherder9061 4 года назад +185

    Honestly, over the last few years this channel went from making me go “kinda meh” to being one of my favourites. Keep it up. Love it ❤️

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +48

      Haha, I'll take that as a compliment! Really glad you've been enjoying some of my stuff!

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu 2 года назад +1

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @StNick119
    @StNick119 4 года назад +35

    I need to mull the content of this video over in my head for a while to get all I can out of it, but I already feel like I've gained a new perspective on the "culture wars", and more importantly a new way of sharing my perspective. Your works are excellent Tom, thank you.

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu Год назад +1

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @jimmymagma8374
    @jimmymagma8374 4 года назад +196

    first off im only on the introduction so far. when you were talking about the culture war idea being created around religion at first i instantly thought ireland. we've had such a rocky past with catholics and protestants, both through the famine, through land ownership, and through the troubles. that just hit me.
    other than that i really enjoy all your videos and im enjoying this one :) btw you have a very nice smile

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +48

      Yeah, the “culture war” metaphor essentially tried to transpose those kinds of conflicts into contemporary politics. That’s a really interesting parallel to draw!

    • @shizachan8421
      @shizachan8421 Год назад +1

      Isn't the issue in ireland more one of the protestantic demographic traditionally being associated with the english colonizer class?

  • @IrrationalExuberance
    @IrrationalExuberance 4 года назад +479

    The main thing I find annoying is the “feedback loop” that shows up. You have reactionaries going one way, then you have overly vigilant progressives trying to seek out the secret reactionaries, then you have annoying “both sides” people. I feel like most of my time these days is trying to convince people I’m not in an “enemy camp” just because I get uncomfortable feeling pressured to select and follow a specific social script which is a big fat red flag for everyone now. It feels like everyone is constantly reacting to reactions against reactions ad infinitum and gets super higher order very fast

    • @MrJack1992
      @MrJack1992 4 года назад +39

      In short it's like this in the 1950s the Orthodox norm was at its peak. The ideal american society of company men with a stay at home wife and 2-5 kids white picket fence and ideal suburban neighborhood was the goal. By the 1960s it was being challenged by the 70s it was considered dead if not for the rise of neo conservative movements by the 80s/90s neoconservatives rebuilt america in their 50s image albeit with token representation of minorities and females. however by l the early 2010s the Orthodox norm lost massive ground. Trump meanwhile has rekickstarted a sense of neo American nationalism. Many progressives seek to undo some of the most fundamental ideals such as marriage, hetrosexuality, monogamy and etc...
      The progressive camp is finding itself initially In charge in most of the major cultural institutions. While the Orthodox camp is on the outside. Progressives seeking to root out reactionaries at any cost has created serious fault lines in their traditional bases.

    • @englishsteve1465
      @englishsteve1465 4 года назад +66

      Ah, the "overly vigilant progressive" long have I railed against them ! (in my head of course) - Not because I'm not progressive, but because too often what they do is just score a farcical own goal, handing on a platter an opportunity for mockery to the right and more right leaning media. SJW's and the like really do need to learn how to pick their battles, see the bigger picture.

    • @katerynaufymtseva5073
      @katerynaufymtseva5073 4 года назад +58

      Being associated with a big group of people because of your beliefs is always a headache. You can't present your opinions or thoughts without some people putting a label on you, so that they can disregard your views and not engage with your ideas. "Oh, you a feminist, ha ha", "Oh, so you're a socialist now" etc.

    • @skycastrum5803
      @skycastrum5803 4 года назад +17

      @@katerynaufymtseva5073 The purity testing sort of encourages that way of thinking. If a group goes out of its way to kick out anyone not in line, it’s reasonable to assume people who seem attached to the group share the same mould.

    • @katerynaufymtseva5073
      @katerynaufymtseva5073 4 года назад +15

      @@skycastrum5803 what do you mean by "purity testing"?
      I don't think, you can kick a person out of, say, feminism, for example, can you? The group is not that well defined and tight - it might seem that way from the outside, but there are always people with multiple different opinions.

  • @tomj3352
    @tomj3352 3 года назад +101

    Hi Tom, great video - I really enjoyed it! In your introduction you seem to suggest that the two camps described by Hunter are opposed because they have different cultures, but in my reading of the book the reason that they are embroiled in this battle is because they share the *same* culture. American culture is not only the field of battle for the conflict, but the prize for winning too. The different players in culture wars are (as you very aptly outlined) defined by their opposing appeals to moral authority, not by their different modes/uses of culture necessarily. I feel like I may be preaching to the choir here, as you clearly have a very strong command of this theory, but perhaps a clearer definition of what we're talking about when we say 'culture' might make this point clearer in the video? To this end, you might enjoy Thomas C. Holt's work 'Marking: Race, Race-making, and the Writing of History' . Thanks again for the video, it was extremely well thought out and articulated!

  • @ZiggyZ3
    @ZiggyZ3 4 года назад +106

    You peaked my interest when you talked about how some can see everything as political. That’s something they taught in my poli sci classes. I like framing things that are “political” as things that people need to discuss/ change and things being “a-political” as things that can’t change or should be considered neutral. It can feel very gaslighty when people disagree on what’s political or get upset about “making something political” because it’s a way of avoiding important issues.

    • @JohnRayner5
      @JohnRayner5 4 года назад +45

      The problem with that philosophy is that it’s very easy to see certain things as a-political when they don’t personally affect you. If you get right down to it, everything is inherently political- everything that affects people is a matter of politics, because the people in power have a direct impact on how policies and laws impact YOU, personally. Sometimes they have a positive impact and sometimes a negative. It isn’t fair to say that because you don’t feel particularly strong about a certain subject doesn’t mean that others might have a more personal investment.

    • @InternetMameluq
      @InternetMameluq 4 года назад +21

      '“a-political” as things that can’t change or should be considered neutral.'
      Nothing ever fits into that category.

    • @cashnelson2306
      @cashnelson2306 3 года назад +3

      piqued*

    • @chev3569
      @chev3569 3 года назад

      @@InternetMameluq Climate change?

    • @roberte.andrews4621
      @roberte.andrews4621 3 года назад +6

      Politics arose from aspects of the human mind, for better or worse. Unfortunately, much of politics is emotional and irrational. Social scientists deal with facts learned about human behavior. Our ancient hunter/gatherer ancestors dealt with life and death situations frequently and our reptilian brain is hard-wired for fight or flight response patterns. this explains why we still have so many wars and domestic discord. Older societies have come to grips with this human failing and have evolved methods to avoid physical conflicts.

  • @freelease
    @freelease 3 года назад +20

    I really like the pacing of this video.
    Breaking up the rather heavy chapters with (a little) lighter history to not overwhelm the listener/viewer.
    Great video. Clear audio, nice cuts smooth writing.
    Well done!

  • @rosellavaughn5394
    @rosellavaughn5394 3 года назад +45

    your videos are my newest intellectual obsession. making origami while listening to educational content is my passion, so thanks for being an accompanying part of it, and i hope u continue to make such quality content.

  • @sophiasuniverse2174
    @sophiasuniverse2174 4 года назад +415

    Just offering my comment as a sacrifice to the algorithm gods. Don't mind me.

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +66

      I appreciate your offering!

    • @eternalism8274
      @eternalism8274 4 года назад +4

      .

    • @anarchisticauthoritarian228
      @anarchisticauthoritarian228 4 года назад +6

      +1

    • @Deepishpls
      @Deepishpls 4 года назад +5

      I think I'm gonna do the same, the algorithm must learn to love this channel

    • @SpectrumDT
      @SpectrumDT 4 года назад +12

      LIKES FOR THE LIKE GOD
      COMMENTS FOR THE COMMENT THRONE
      In the grim darkness of the social media there is only algorithms.

  • @jacobwhalley7026
    @jacobwhalley7026 4 года назад +37

    These longer formats suit your style, a documentary sized space frees you up for a more comprehensive take on a subject, I love the theatre in this episode, the change in tone and attack really keep my attention, something I noticed in the "myth of a free press" video too. A labour of love, fair play mate really, enjoying your output!

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu Год назад

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @DesignerOfManyThings
    @DesignerOfManyThings 4 года назад +21

    holy cow! This was my first video I saw and I'm blown away with how high the production quality is and how underrated this channel is. Great work, great job explaining everything, I thoroughly enjoyed it and I look forward to seeing more!

  • @jasonwhite2028
    @jasonwhite2028 2 года назад +53

    This is what i wish mainstream media was more like, you have a way of not foregoing your ideals and thoughts but still representing the topic in such an unbiased and fair way, i especially enjoy how you explore the historical aspects of the subjects you cover. The fact that you can remain very factually based in such a nuanced and almost emotionally led dilemma is quite remarkable, you also touch on some rather "rabbit hole" (for lack of a better word) points very tastefully without falling into the endless possibilities of speculation; for example pointing out most people are mostly moderate in the direction they politically lean and have much more convergence in issues than the mainstream media conveys. I personally cant avoid the unlimited questions and speculations of such profound notions which is why i like your on point and concise videos so much, you are obviously very smart and very educated and i would like to thank you for using your knowledge, ability to research and put together such fair and entertaining content.

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu Год назад +2

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @gorillaguerillaDK
    @gorillaguerillaDK 4 года назад +328

    I’m a Culture Wars Veteran
    ESPECIALLY the War on Christmas

    • @te1327
      @te1327 4 года назад +62

      I honestly love the war on Christmas meme. Shame some people think it's a real thing

    • @te1327
      @te1327 4 года назад +70

      @@nickmoser7785 It never was. And how exactly did leftist jews turn the holiday secular in the 1950s?

    • @ecoRfan
      @ecoRfan 4 года назад +37

      @Katrina S December 25 was Saturnalia in the Pagan days. Christ was probably born in the spring.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 3 года назад +30

      I lost family at the Battle of the Baggage Claim.
      The Redcoats came in on three Airbuses, yet we prevailed.
      God bless America!

    • @l_ndonmusic
      @l_ndonmusic 3 года назад +44

      @@nickmoser7785
      Of course... blame everything on the Jews... you’re not original lmao.

  • @dande5009
    @dande5009 4 года назад +11

    Had this in my watch later for a couple of weeks. Was waiting for the right time to watch. A great breakdown of something that is often heard but not always understood.

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu 2 года назад

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @adigazel
    @adigazel 4 года назад +8

    i literally can't sit through a single class in school but this (which is 1000 times more compicated then anything i learn in school) is such an engaging and interesting video that just made me watch it all the way through in one sitting. props to the visuals and intresting script! if school was just 5% of this...

    • @zackzittel7683
      @zackzittel7683 Год назад

      Because school only advances as fast as it’s slowest learner. You can’t read ahead so you spend an entire period reading 10 minutes worth of information and then get burdened with homework you could have done in class.

    • @jackwastakenx2
      @jackwastakenx2 Год назад

      You may have the AD-HD (Atleast from my personal experience)

    • @kuromu8467
      @kuromu8467 Год назад

      ​@@zackzittel7683 Not too bad tbh let's you slack off in school

  • @vitorgross9254
    @vitorgross9254 4 года назад +55

    I'm building a collective of film industry workers here in Brazil aimed at battling the neoliberal "common sense" atmosphere we live in today. This video just spoke to so many things I had in mind... thank you again for the excellent work!

    • @azuregriffin1116
      @azuregriffin1116 3 года назад +2

      boa sorte!

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu 2 года назад +1

      I thought this might be important information to share with you. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics. I thought that you and your fellow film industry workers are successful in resisting neoliberal atmosphere that you are in right now. Blessings to you.

  • @pragsoftdev
    @pragsoftdev 9 месяцев назад

    Can’t get enough of this channel 🙌🏼 it doesn’t matter whether you lean right or left or somewhere in between - it’s a pleasure to hear something well researched, with rigorously defined/interrogated terms, and a coherent argument. Takes me back to uni days. Wish there was more content of this quality on RUclips!

  • @avedic
    @avedic 4 года назад +158

    A Brief History of the Culture Wars
    or
    Why Simpletons Find Nuance within Reality to be Frightening

  • @anthonydelfino6171
    @anthonydelfino6171 2 года назад +183

    Early 2000-2010s culture wars were still, at least in the US, still VERY much a thing (I say this as someone who was much more involved with them then)
    In this era, though, it was the left who was more on the offensive. You had people challenging the narrative provided by those in power around the war on terror and the prism act. You had leftists concerned, rightly so in hindsight, about the right's moves to fascism and authoritarianism. You had groups like the Dixie Chicks getting a pushback for saying they disapproved of the actions of the president, and the American Idiot album by Green Day born out of a lot of the frustrations born of the right's control of the culture. The culture war didn't go quiet, the terms on which it was being fought, and which side held more power had just been different than it was in other eras you're discussing.

    • @jasonbolding3481
      @jasonbolding3481 2 года назад +18

      I think you are over looking things though about who was on the offensive. President canidate Bush ran both his campaigns on a federal amendment to outlaw same sex marriage for instance

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 2 года назад +27

      @@jasonbolding3481 that's very fair. Defense of Marriage act absolutely emboldened a lot of the culture war hate on the right. I can even remember my parent's church at the time had sermons from the pulpit telling people to vote to ban same sex marriage when it came up for a vote in the state too (which shows that ministers have been emboldened for decades or longer to do political speech from the pulpit without any consequences to their tax exempt status)

    • @user-rn3rn6nl3h
      @user-rn3rn6nl3h Год назад

      The "right" has not been in power since the 80s. Bush is a liberal that ran as a republican. All the Republicans of the 90-00 support the left currently.

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 Год назад +14

      @@user-rn3rn6nl3h if you think that Bush was a liberal, then you, my friend, are very very far right. If anything most of the left started moving more to the right after Clinton and his embrace of neo liberalism while groups like the Tea Party and now MAGA are pulling Republicans even further to the right. The reason they seem to be very similar is not becase the conservatives got more liberal, it's because liberals got more conservative.

    • @user-rn3rn6nl3h
      @user-rn3rn6nl3h Год назад

      @@anthonydelfino6171 bush currently supports the democrats, he helped them campaign.

  • @Me-wx1mt
    @Me-wx1mt Год назад +201

    I’m slightly concerned that this British guy is more educated on American politics than most Americans

    • @avacadomangobanana2588
      @avacadomangobanana2588 Год назад

      Most Americans aren’t educated

    • @Spingus33
      @Spingus33 Год назад

      I'm not even surprised, everyone in this country is so dumb lmao

    • @mattyking
      @mattyking Год назад +59

      I mean no offence by this, but most folk around the world are more educated on American politics than a lot of Americans.
      Thought that's mostly due to the fact that US politics carries with it heavy impacts on the rest of the world, and yet we cannot vote to alter the course the US hegemonic power swings

    • @Me-wx1mt
      @Me-wx1mt Год назад +26

      @@mattyking no offense taken, you’re speaking facts

    • @banjohero1182
      @banjohero1182 Год назад +15

      housecats are more educated than most of us on our politics

  • @aj-zi6vi
    @aj-zi6vi 4 года назад +12

    I love the production value on your videos!

  • @underdude93
    @underdude93 4 года назад +120

    This is awesome! I shared this with my dad who is on the “other” side. I enjoyed that you don’t attack but explain.

    • @luismoralesacevedo3100
      @luismoralesacevedo3100 4 года назад +13

      Is your dad a gamer?

    • @cowboycurtis4944
      @cowboycurtis4944 4 года назад +49

      There are subtle attacks. He clearly is sympathetic to the "progressive" side because he frames everything as the "orthodoxy" side being dishonest in their motives while not doing so to the "progressive" side. He asserts that every action the progressive side does is for the betterment of society while the actions taken by the orthodox side are to maintain an iron grip on society.

    • @cowboycurtis4944
      @cowboycurtis4944 4 года назад +9

      @Anirban Chakrabarti Do you always assume the worst in people who disagree with you?

    • @cowboycurtis4944
      @cowboycurtis4944 4 года назад +15

      @Anirban Chakrabarti Then there can be no discussion. If you believe your political opponents are insincere then there is no point debating them, and if you can't change minds with words, there is no other recourse than violence.

    • @cowboycurtis4944
      @cowboycurtis4944 4 года назад +11

      @Anirban Chakrabarti I could say the same thing about progressives but I know arguing with you will not accomplish anything. I don't want to commit violence against my political opponents because the instigation of political violence is an illegitimate means of solving disputes.
      Your worldview is that of a fanatic and ultimately such a worldview will cause more misery than it alleviates.

  • @Sarah-fe9jo
    @Sarah-fe9jo 4 года назад +50

    This is such a clear and comprehensive video, thank you so much! As a high school student and a relatively new leftist, your videos really enrich my analysis of our society and my understanding of theory

    • @EmperorHomie
      @EmperorHomie Год назад +2

      xanderhaul and conure, unlike vaush and hasan, are pretty good on what they post. while the other two feel ok as a 101 intro-ish course on leftism

  • @Minorheadlines
    @Minorheadlines 4 года назад +6

    Wow - your videos genuinely deserve more attention. Another extremely well put together video.

  • @Sebanovic5
    @Sebanovic5 4 года назад +21

    Not sure when this happened exactly, but recently you’ve become one of the RUclipsrs I’m most excited about when I see a new video - keep up the fabulous work!

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu 2 года назад +2

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @odinsboss117
    @odinsboss117 3 года назад +12

    This was excellent! You asked really good questions, and clearly put a substantial amount of work into this and it really shows. Thanks for making it, it was fascinating to see how consistent we humans can be with how we divide ourselves. I recall learning somewhere you could have found similar conservative and reform factions dividing the senate floors of the Roman republic more than 2000 years ago.

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu Год назад +1

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @Commanber
    @Commanber 4 года назад +5

    I've just started Society of the Spectacle because of your videos on it and now I see The Spectacle everywhere.

  • @Sm0kinJoe1
    @Sm0kinJoe1 3 года назад +6

    This is an excellently produced video, when I finished watching, I felt like I've genuinely gained a new perspective of what's happening in politics today. Subscribed!

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu Год назад

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @MrMuel1205
    @MrMuel1205 3 года назад +6

    Wow! First video of yours I've seen. Fantastic. Loved the presentation, the research and structure of the video. Now time to delve into your other videos.

  • @anitajimoh9650
    @anitajimoh9650 3 года назад +6

    The effort you put into your videos and the quality of them is actually astounding - it's entertaining and educational and just overall very impressive, thank you for making this!!

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu Год назад +1

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @danielross334
    @danielross334 4 года назад +3

    Tom Nicholas makes great videos! Full of information and the effort to understand the world. What a great way to spend time on youtube!

  • @valaur3
    @valaur3 3 года назад +7

    This was exceptionally well put together, thanks for this Tom

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu 2 года назад

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @coreywilliams5357
    @coreywilliams5357 4 года назад +43

    This was an excellent watch. Going to have to watch it again more closely, like I do with many of your videos. This morning, I thought that the culture wars were manufactured divisions of the working class. Now I'm not so sure.
    Thanks Tom

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +12

      Thanks, glad to have provoked some thinking!

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu 2 года назад

      I thought this might be important information to share with you guys. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @aishiksaha808
    @aishiksaha808 4 года назад +4

    Thanks, I became interested in studying the 'Culture Wars' while working on a paper by the nature of divisions fostered by Digital Capitalism in general and Social Media in particular.
    One aspect I think is worth pondering upon is how the complete dominance of media by capital affects our political worldview. This is particularly true for social media where we are led into what has been dubbed a 'Filter Bubble' that insulates us from encountering contrarian worldviews. We tend to believe that social media gives us greater freedom to debate and discuss with a wide range of contrarian positions, but the advertisement focus algorithms are not incentivized for such engagement.
    The video was very interesting, especially it gives me a reading list on the US culture wars to start with.

  • @veasley1215
    @veasley1215 3 года назад +1

    This quite literally may be the best RUclips video I’ve watched

  • @marimota5083
    @marimota5083 Год назад +3

    Is always insightful, easy to understand and full of interesting facts. Also you are a great narrator😊

  • @phoenixrise1141
    @phoenixrise1141 Год назад +2

    this helped me understand the past and current societal atmosphere so much more than i did before. thank you!

  • @artemesaulkov2010
    @artemesaulkov2010 4 года назад +4

    Your content is pure quality

  • @appleislander8536
    @appleislander8536 3 года назад +26

    Where both sides simultaneously believe that their victory is inevitable, and that the other side is always at the gates...

  • @warrenny
    @warrenny 10 месяцев назад

    Really like this channel. It's nice to see someone with a very modest perspective on culture.

  • @JordanSullivanadventures
    @JordanSullivanadventures 3 года назад +3

    This is an excellent video, so well-researched, argued, and incredibly thought-provoking.

  • @MasterJuru
    @MasterJuru 4 года назад +18

    14:12 you know you've made it in life when ur bold and dignified enough to eat Pringles out of a glass bowl

  • @moeghanim8710
    @moeghanim8710 2 месяца назад

    I absolutely loved this video. I cannot compliment enough. Your best video yet, even though the other ones are prime quality content.

  • @HannibalHanslaughter
    @HannibalHanslaughter 4 года назад +69

    The opening is killing me

  • @marksilla8276
    @marksilla8276 4 года назад +6

    I can't imagine it took 2020, for me to find your channel. At least this year wasn't a complete waste.

  • @bebobaba7118
    @bebobaba7118 2 года назад +1

    Wow. That's the first video of yours I have watched and it blew me away. I can't wait to watch more. Thanks so much

  • @girrlbyker
    @girrlbyker 4 года назад +21

    Great stuff, well laid out 😊. I would argue though that sitting in the park on a sunny day, whether in the shade or not *has* a political aspect. Parks are public spaces, often free in our societies. But the value of free public land is constantly contested, making such spaces contingent. In Turkey for example, Gezi Park was the focus of defiance against urban gentrification and ultimately authoritarian oppression. In Apartheid South Africa, parks were often off-limits to non-white people. Also to have time to lie in a park, is the result of union activity to ensure days off. It's still an indication of your degree of economic freedom to be able to choose how to structure one's time. The strength of the sun's rays has increased with gaps in the ozone layer, caused by relentless emissions, making sitting too long in open sunlight more dangerous than it may have been a few decades earlier. Being able to read to, to have access to free public education is a privilege not all in the world enjoy. Many political things going on even in that simple activity. 😉

  • @mediaproductionfilms3665
    @mediaproductionfilms3665 4 года назад +20

    I was about to watch a TV series. that can wait

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +8

      That's very kind (and maybe a little optimistic about how good the video is, haha).

    • @amraaji9158
      @amraaji9158 4 года назад +2

      It really is dude..

  • @joelwilcox5424
    @joelwilcox5424 4 года назад +1

    This channel deserves WAY more subscribers!

  • @WereInHell
    @WereInHell 4 года назад +129

    Do you EVER miss?!?!

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +38

      I keep trying but people keep saying the stuff is good anyway...

    • @TheMinorityGAMER312
      @TheMinorityGAMER312 4 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/OKdNw8aDTsA/видео.html

    • @marcschaeffer1584
      @marcschaeffer1584 4 года назад +1

      Every time. He is very interesting though...

    • @totallynotacommie335
      @totallynotacommie335 4 года назад +1

      @@marcschaeffer1584 what do you mean "everytime"?

    • @marcschaeffer1584
      @marcschaeffer1584 4 года назад

      @@totallynotacommie335 he is a philosopher and a thinker, and I have the greatest respect for that. He just happens to be wrong most of the time. I watch all his content, because it is interesting, but I agree with very little, and yes I understand what he says too.

  • @darrylbradshaw216
    @darrylbradshaw216 5 месяцев назад +6

    "They got you fighting a culture war instead of the ongoing class war"

  • @edgarrodriguez8973
    @edgarrodriguez8973 Год назад +1

    Wow, long but it was worth every second of my putting off my breakfast. Brilliant. Greetings from Bogotá, Colombia.

  • @reveranttangent1771
    @reveranttangent1771 4 года назад +31

    My american foreignness is showing through as I find the idea of calling a Brit a Europhile as weird as calling an American a westaboo.

    • @brassen
      @brassen 4 года назад +6

      Hey, thanks! New word of the day for me, 'westaboo' 😅 (actually I'm thinking about how to use it in Brazil, it's likely that our president is a major case of westaboo)

    • @reveranttangent1771
      @reveranttangent1771 4 года назад +1

      @@brassen you're welcome

    • @reveranttangent1771
      @reveranttangent1771 4 года назад +2

      @@brassen anyway, when I made the comment, I had forgotten the "thinking x is superior" part of the definition.

    • @brassen
      @brassen 4 года назад +1

      ​@@reveranttangent1771 Yes, I understand. We've always had this kind of "cultural war" down here, people would usually use terms like "Disney-zombie", "Stockholm-syndrome", "mutt-syndrome" (poor mutts)... whereas we on the left are just called "communists" 🤣

    • @reveranttangent1771
      @reveranttangent1771 4 года назад +1

      @@brassen hmm, not pleased to realize how widespread and common certain problems are.

  • @cieproject2888
    @cieproject2888 4 года назад +23

    As someone doing a PhD in a Social Science discipline in a fairly heavily Critical Theory Lefty university in the US, it's remarkable to see from your video how consistent our reading lists are across the Atlantic. I've read ... SO MUCH E.P. Thompson

    • @etyl2494
      @etyl2494 4 года назад +10

      damn, that degree sounds useless AF, can you use it for something other than becoming a teacher?

    • @cieproject2888
      @cieproject2888 4 года назад +7

      @@etyl2494 It is pretty useless unless you plan to be a university professor. I'm just doing it because I enjoy it and my employer is okay with me taking the time

    • @etyl2494
      @etyl2494 4 года назад

      @@cieproject2888 well its good that your realise it, many young people end up in dept with a useless diploma and no job :D

    • @ReginaCæliLætare
      @ReginaCæliLætare 4 года назад +5

      Thank you for this comment. This confirms my suspicion about this video. You've saved me 53 minutes of my life

    • @Cibershadow2
      @Cibershadow2 4 года назад +2

      @@ReginaCæliLætare What suspicion was that?

  • @alloyd7454
    @alloyd7454 4 года назад +2

    Love the format of this video! The idea of approaching the culture war with the aesthetics of an actual, physical, war is just perfect.

  • @jeiaz
    @jeiaz 4 года назад +43

    This was so much worth my time that I'm gonna spend another hour just looking at a blank wall.

    • @hindigente
      @hindigente 4 года назад +5

      This is such a great hyperbole, I'll constantly use it.

    • @jeiaz
      @jeiaz 4 года назад

      @Ivan Seems like you understood my message backwards

    • @bacul165
      @bacul165 4 года назад

      Agreed - think I might need this hour to work through some things I learned...

  • @dannystrinden5277
    @dannystrinden5277 4 года назад +16

    This is great. I'm a big opponent of the notion that "culture" as it is commonly understood as something like "the beating heart of a people" is anything other than individual.
    This isn't to say that commonly-held beliefs and expectations do not have a large-scale impact, only that each society has as many cultures as there are individuals whose viewpoints and ideas differ.

    • @tomemery7890
      @tomemery7890 4 года назад +13

      Culture is by definition collective and social. Not my opinion, it's what the word means. If you have a morning ritual of punching a trout for 10 minutes that's not your culture, you're just a fella punching a trout. But if 30% of the country did it we would have ourselves a cultural custom, one that I for one would get behind.

    • @dannystrinden5277
      @dannystrinden5277 4 года назад +1

      @@tomemery7890 what is the threshold at which a certain percentage of a population engaging in a similar activity becomes "culture" for the population?
      What is the consequence if it is 30% vs 5% vs 0.01%? Do I treat the activity with respect if enough people partake and scorn if they don't?
      If I engage in an activity for different reasons than you, do we share a culture?
      How many shared activities must exist between two people for them to be considered part of the same culture?
      Do other characteristics like skin color, eye color, wealth, weight, happiness, etc. help determine the culture to which one belongs?
      What is the significance when activities shared by many people lose or gain prominence over time? Has the culture changed? Is that good or bad?
      I think it does more harm than good to describe an activity or characteristic as being part of the culture of a population of people, as opposed to being more specific and saying "x% of y population share z activity or characteristic". When you do that, you also may realize that no two people have the exact same set of activities and characteristics, and so no two people have an identical culture.

    • @tomemery7890
      @tomemery7890 4 года назад +3

      @@dannystrinden5277 why does it do more harm than good?

    • @mitchgunzler3737
      @mitchgunzler3737 4 года назад +6

      @@dannystrinden5277 To the extent that people have the sense that they share a culture, and that this matters... it matters. Like many ideas (race, democracy, the right side of the road to drive on) it’s only as real and important as people think and could appear arbitrary under careful scrutiny. But it doesn’t help to say “there is no right side of the road to drive on, really” or “there is no White American Culture, that’s just something some people choose to believe in.” Those beliefs exist so they make a real difference worth understanding.

    • @edmann1820
      @edmann1820 4 года назад +1

      Could you expand on why you think that and perhaps what the word culture means to you? I'm interested in understanding your point of view. However, I feel like the problem might be semantic.

  • @rschloch
    @rschloch 2 года назад +1

    Analysis seems to be spot-on, and definitely worthy of my time!!! Thank you!

  • @SomethingImpromptu
    @SomethingImpromptu 3 года назад +10

    Great work. Politics has always been a conflict between traditional orthodoxies & radical/progressive heterodoxies, just as it has always been a conflict between the ruling class (who typically uphold the orthodoxy that places them in a position of hegemonic class power) & the working class (who often are the ones demanding progress towards a more just society that doesn’t constantly & enduringly coerce/harm/exploit them). Aside from the minimization of economic issues in order to distract people away from the class war framing & the understanding that the vast majority of us share common interests & the shared antagonist that is the ruling class, what I think truly distinguishes the “culture war” phenomenon from historical political conflict is mainly the extreme extent to which people are encouraged to just fall in line & adopt beliefs based on, as you mentioned, what groups of people they happen to have some kind of cultural affinity with. By framing the cultural discourse around social issues as a WAR, the implication is that if you aren’t in line with “your side” in the war then you are a traitor- you are doing something seditious- very much the same way that Nazis & other xenophobic white nationalist ethnostaters would argue that if you are a white person who holds views which they deem contrary to the “interests of the white race,” then you are a “race traitor,” or the way traditional nationalists treat sympathy for the people of other nations- certainly especially ones who are deemed by the nation state to be official enemies- as treachery & disloyalty. This attitude really seems predominately to come from media. This is especially (& probably originally) true of right-wing media coming from grifters & demagogues on RUclips/Twitch/etc. & corporate media (e.g. Tucker Carlson & the like), but it’s worth noting that I see the same general tendency among their liberal counterparts. Liberals, being capitalists, are also defenders of ruling class interests, & therefore don’t want people thinking in terms of class interests & class conflict. And so, many of them (especially pro-establishment neoliberal/“radical moderate” types), share a “culture war” attitude which can (admittedly somewhat glibly) be summed up by the following sentiment: “Universal healthcare is bad, because a lot of poor people are racists, & racists don’t deserve healthcare.” Not having a class conscious materialist analysis of politics, economics, or culture, there is a mentality among the rank & file “culture warriors” on both sides of the “culture war” that winning politically just means “owning” the other side & directing as much of the suffering caused by our current systems towards the people “on the other side,” who we don’t like, as possible. If you aren’t already a social progressive, then you’re just stained as “a bad person” & don’t deserve help from social programs or to be recognized as part of the same working class as poor black & Hispanic people who you hold bigoted views towards. If you aren’t already a social conservative, then you’re in league with Satanic pedophiles & should be arrested or shot. And if you’re an actual leftist who DOES care about racial justice, women’s liberation, LGBTQ people, etc. (which you’d think should place you clearly on the progressive side of the culture war), but you also have a class analysis & try to reach out to all working class people, including more conservative white ones, to try to raise their consciousness, get them to co-operate with the rest of the working class against the ruling class in solidarity & to recognize they share humanity & class interests with a lot of black/Hispanic/Middle Eastern/etc. people… If you do that, there are a lot of liberal “culture warriors” who will treat that as consorting with the enemy, who will blast you in the media the same way Bernie Sanders was blasted to discredit you: “You only care about the white working class. The white working class is racist. You must not actually care about racial justice.” And so on. It doesn’t matter if you were literally marching with the Civil Rights movement in the 60s, as Bernie did- if you try to draw people’s attention to the importance of class, the ways that class & economic inequality are used as a means of doing white supremacy/patriarchy/hetero-cis-normativity, & so on, & advocate for economic liberation of the working class, you are introducing ideas that are very threatening to the kinds of ruling class elites who propagate the “culture war” worldview, so they will instantly declare you to be a spy, a saboteur, an enemy in our midst… And any rational attempt to explain why appealing to the working class on economic grounds, or even speaking to white working class people (who btw are not all racist or conservative) in an attempt to bring them over to the anti-bigotry, anti-oppression side of things, is just ignored while they tell their audiences of millions that you don’t give a shit about any of the cultural signifiers of the “woke” side of the culture war, because somehow being a socialist is incompatible with all of that (essentially they want people to believe liberal capitalists have a monopoly on social justice, despite all historical evidence to the contrary, & they’ll see no irony when they try to cite a socialist like MLK, famous for his criticisms of “white moderates” like them, & his belief that the full realization of the liberation of black people ultimately requires the liberation of all poor/working class people from capitalism, in trying to make that point. Sometimes it really does feel like this culture war framing is just the new ideological weapon that has replaced McCarthyism as one of the major means of thought control & ideological constraint in American society, in a world where communism & secret Bolshevik agents among us, infiltrating our institutions to take over America from the inside, can no longer be drummed up (though the Russiagate hysteria which plays off Cold War era Russophobia & baseless reactionary conspiracy theories like “cultural Marxism” or QAnon have also done a lot to keep regular people from waking up & understanding the reality of their circumstances & who actually benefits from their suffering).

  • @und3rt3h1nfluence
    @und3rt3h1nfluence Год назад +5

    2 years later and this is still such a great video! It finally made me understand the development and intricacies of the thing we call the culture war, even though I always felt like it was not a thing and only a tool of division (the way some leftist see it as you pointed out near the end of this video!)
    Such a good video 👏👏

  • @robrich7846
    @robrich7846 3 года назад

    I think this just became my new favorite RUclips channel.

  • @idab9958
    @idab9958 4 года назад +3

    This video is so worthy of my time, I may just end up re-watching the whole thing a couple of times. You share so many interesting facts and ideas that I couldn't really process it all on my first viewing. Absolutely fantastic job, thank you so, so much for making and sharing this.

  • @victorquadros1428
    @victorquadros1428 4 года назад +4

    This entire phenomenon reminds me of Pratt's Arts of the Contact Zone, wherein two factions/cultures/communities clash, typically under the context of some form of power struggle. The "Culture War" theory is an intriguing one, though I definitely see how it could be another instance of Pratt's idea of the Contact Zone, for she also developed a timeless framework that can be utilized to describe conflicts between varying communities. Pratt utilizes both examples within her personal life and throughout history to back her claims, which is already dubious within academia (auto-ethnographies are a subject of debate regarding their falsifiability and thus research merit; though one could foresee a collection of auto-ethnographies to be a form of research, in which academics deem that as "oral history"). Pratt suggests that in order to navigate the contact zone in a way not to incite violence or perpetuated conflict (or at least minimize friction), platforms must be made that allow alternative ideas to be considered and played with, wherein the ideas merge or compete with each other to synthesize concepts that have the potential to demonstrate broader understandings of the realities of various cultures and perspectives throughout history and politics, in turn bridging the gap of cultural understanding. I find this perspective applicable to this video due to the mention of creating alternative outlets that will allow broader and more diverse opinions/values to be voiced, creating a better representation of public opinion and possibly assisting in the creation of novel ideas and movements, though as implied, there will always be some form of conflict or disagreement whenever information is misrepresented or in scenarios where the truth of value is ambiguous and is contingent upon our fallible understandings and interpretations.

  • @byrongsmith
    @byrongsmith 3 года назад

    I'd been putting off watching this one, which kept appearing in my recommendations, but I'm glad I now watched it. Best one yet on this channel. The question of what counts as 'political' is a debate I find myself in *constantly* with people. And the definition I use accords very well with one of the key points of this video. This is what I often say: politics has a more restricted sense limited to debates around the actions of official political authorities, but a broader, more important sense in which politics refers to the distribution and application of power in a society. Further, the attempt to limit the definition of political to the former, restricted, sense is itself a deeply contentious political move.
    Super useful video. Keep up the great work.

  • @Inignot12
    @Inignot12 4 года назад +6

    This is an amazing video. I can't help hearing that crazy guy from the DS9 episode warning about the "soulless minions of orthodoxy" though lol

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +1

      I’m still only mid-way through series one of TNG!

    • @Inignot12
      @Inignot12 4 года назад

      @@Tom_Nicholas Haha, it's rough going until mid season 2, once your past that hump it's so great. Sadly most star trek shows suffer the fate of questionable early seasons

    • @jeiaz
      @jeiaz 4 года назад

      Who says that to whom?

    • @jeiaz
      @jeiaz 4 года назад

      I meant "about whom"?

    • @Inignot12
      @Inignot12 4 года назад +2

      @@jeiaz Season 5 Ep 25 "In the cards" Dr. Elias Geiger, the guy obsessed with rejuvenating his cells but comes off explicitly as a conspiracy nutter, warning Jake and Nog about the "soulless minions of orthodoxy".
      It's the ep where they're trying to get the Willie Mays rookie card for Jake's dad. It's a really fun and lighthearted episode set dead in the middle of the Dominion war

  • @dstinnettmusic
    @dstinnettmusic 4 года назад +126

    Anytime people try break society into opposing camps, they are trying to sel you something and the person setting up the dichotomy probably owns both products.
    Edward vs Jacob, Team Fruity vs Team Coco, etc.

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  4 года назад +11

      Haha, what's Team Fruity vs Team Coco? I think I'm too old to get this reference...

    • @dstinnettmusic
      @dstinnettmusic 4 года назад +21

      @@Tom_Nicholas a dumb marketing gimmick that the cereal maker Post tried with Fuity pebbles and Coco pebbles at the height of the ”team x vs team y” marketing trend.
      Oh, another example is ”Left Twix vs Right Twix”, if you are at all familiar with American chocolate brands.
      Edit: Post is apparently still pushing the ”team” angle, I just am not their target demographic I guess.

    • @bgs2004
      @bgs2004 4 года назад +8

      And you think class isn't part of that?

    • @dwc1964
      @dwc1964 4 года назад +3

      I remember when it was Frankenberry vs Count Chocula (I'm old)

    • @Holobrine
      @Holobrine 4 года назад +5

      Let’s not forget Team Cap vs Team Iron Man

  • @Emperor_SPOON
    @Emperor_SPOON 3 года назад

    I like how, unlike so many other commentator youtubers out there, you actually cite your sources. I applaud you, good sir.

  • @WallHaxxx
    @WallHaxxx 4 года назад +6

    Dude, you are rapidly becoming my favorite breadtuber. Premium content. I feel like I'm getting a college education

  • @leon46295
    @leon46295 Год назад +6

    I saw the thumbnail and thought "guy put in the effort to wear a costume. Ill take a look"

  • @boredom5132
    @boredom5132 Год назад +2

    Despite being slightly right leaning I find channels like yours refreshing. I may not agree with every bit of the overview you provide, I found this very interesting.

  • @kateoneill6176
    @kateoneill6176 4 года назад +6

    Thanks Tom, another engaging video that has left me a bit despondant about the future of the human race.

  • @snakesnoteyes
    @snakesnoteyes 4 года назад +111

    Round Earth and heliocentricism as not being political, must be nice in the UK

    • @IkeOkerekeNews
      @IkeOkerekeNews 4 года назад +5

      What are you even saying?

    • @joehill4094
      @joehill4094 4 года назад +6

      you do realize that Flat earthers are not a large group of people, and of that small group of people, not all of them live in the US, right?

    • @joehill4094
      @joehill4094 4 года назад +2

      @@neothepenguin1257 did I say most live outside of the US? What are you trying to argue?

    • @neothepenguin1257
      @neothepenguin1257 4 года назад +8

      @@joehill4094 what are YOU arguing. I’m correcting you

    • @triadia7059
      @triadia7059 4 года назад +2

      @@joehill4094 why would any non-majority amount of flat earthers not in America influence how the topic exists in America? Your argument is much better focusing on the size of flat earthers period, or even better to focus on their ability to change the material world through state or nonstate means (or generally their lack thereof).
      The danger is generally the presuppositions flat earthers hold anyway, as those ultimately lead to a material force shifting for the rest of the population.

  • @SinthiaVicious
    @SinthiaVicious 4 года назад

    Well beyond worthwhile, and not in just some small way. I would call it enormously inspirational.

  • @imapotato8649
    @imapotato8649 Год назад +4

    Not me getting a prager u ad on this video 😭😭😭

  • @danielfitzgerald2561
    @danielfitzgerald2561 3 года назад +3

    I strongly recommend a book by Yuval Levin called "The great debate: Edmund Burke, Thomas Paine and the birth of left and right"
    It gives quite a good explanation of the philosophical underpinnings of the conservative/revolutionary worldview and helped me to gain insight into my own political dispositions

  • @dunnowy123
    @dunnowy123 4 года назад

    Surprisingly nuanced. The most positive affirmations a "pray for peacenik" can give

  • @Lineapetrela
    @Lineapetrela 4 года назад +4

    This is such a wonderful video that I feel as though I ought to watch it twice. I came to it thinking that the culture wars were a fiction, an invention serving to distract from class war. But you really helped me understand the power that the culture war framework has in order to really assess what is going on (such as the rise of the right).

  • @cbbcbb6803
    @cbbcbb6803 Год назад +4

    The culture wars in America started when the "pilgrims", and others from Europe, immigrated to the new world and decided that Europeans had the right to cancel every "new world" culture. So, they immediately set about doing just that.

  • @SpectrumDT
    @SpectrumDT 4 года назад

    This is your best video to date IMO. Good work, Tom!

  • @Pensive_Scarlet
    @Pensive_Scarlet 3 года назад +4

    23:31
    Aaaand, my mind is reeling trying to establish the context for the surprise appearance of Lance and Bill from Contra on an old talk show.

    • @anleashed69
      @anleashed69 3 года назад +1

      Yeah... What's that?
      Why?
      How?
      What's happening there?

  • @asmaaaroosi7087
    @asmaaaroosi7087 4 года назад +63

    The topic of culture wars is portrayed differently in my country than how it is in western countries. As for me (a person who lives in a non western country) it’s more related to colonialism and cultural erasure and appropriation (which is still related to class in so many ways)

    • @ExkupidsMom
      @ExkupidsMom 4 года назад +19

      From the US here, progressive leftist: Our right wing politicians do not in any way acknowledge the harm of colonization, and even most of the "left" ignore it. However, when you get into the truly progressive fringes, there is ever-increasing awareness and attempts to acknowledge, make amends, and reparations. Real change will be a long time away, I'm afraid.

    • @DeepfriedNutz
      @DeepfriedNutz 4 года назад +19

      @@ExkupidsMom Sounds like you're describing the radical left of the modern western world. Extremism and radical activism turn people into modern day witch hunters. The other extreme is the far-right, they're quite good at feeding eachother hatred.

    • @ExkupidsMom
      @ExkupidsMom 4 года назад +10

      @@DeepfriedNutz Absolutely. That's why you see caravans of antifa liberals running Trump campaign vehicles off the road, carrying fascistic signs like the swastika, and shooting into crowds of people who disagree with them. Disgusting.

    • @suckieduckie
      @suckieduckie 4 года назад +12

      @@ExkupidsMom Once people talk about reperations that's mostly when the argument goes off the cliff. There is no way to regulate it and to decide how for back we go. I'm Dutch for example so from a colonial perspective we should pay reparations to Suriname and Indonesia. But no one is saying we should get reparations for the Germans bombing the shit out of our country, no one is saying we should go back to the Dutch rebellion of 1568-1648 and demand money from Spain. 1% of all males trace their DNA back to Genghis Khan. That's a shitload of child support that Mongolia has to pay back.
      I think the way forward for the west is not to be self loathing or to throw money at corrupt governments in developing countries, but instead invest in the techonology and infrastructure needed to raise them up. Easier said than done obviously.

    • @ExkupidsMom
      @ExkupidsMom 4 года назад

      @@suckieduckie On a global level it is complicated, for sure, but even then, I wouldn't say the problem is insoluble, just complicated. If I confine the scope of reparations specifically to my country. From there, I can draw a number of reasonable boundaries, it's just a matter of choosing one. Is there one that will make everyone happy? Not a chance. We can't even, as a country, wholeheartedly say that fascism is bad, apparently... but I digress. So let's pretend I've decided that we will pay reparations only to descendents of enslaved people, stolen by us. Many people cannot document their ancestry, but we can institute DNA testing and do the best job we possibly can of collecting DNA from known slave burial grounds, etc, and use both documents and DNA as means of identifying those to whom we owe reparations. Or we could give reparations to every black American, because racism continues to limit their health, wealth, opportunities, and life-span to this day. Or... The world will never be fair unless we dump everyasset we have into a huge basket and reapportion everything. But that shouldn't stop us from doing the best we can at every turn.

  • @DirtyRottenPunkkid
    @DirtyRottenPunkkid 4 года назад +1

    I love your long video essays. Thank you!

  • @alexhurt7919
    @alexhurt7919 4 года назад +34

    Nobody ever wants to talk about who won the great meme war of 2016.

    • @Baphomets_Kid
      @Baphomets_Kid 3 года назад +3

      It was a short lived revolution because there were no intellectuals and no real leadership.

    • @alexhurt7919
      @alexhurt7919 3 года назад +5

      @@Baphomets_Kid there were plenty of intellectuals, but you're right there was no leadership. Honestly I feel like that's going to be a perpetual problem as time goes on. Every modern movement lacks adequate leadership even the "legitimate" ones.

    • @Willowtree82
      @Willowtree82 3 года назад +3

      @@Baphomets_Kid that always happens with real grassroots movements. It's hard for regular people to defeat the system when censorship exists. This is why censorship is the hill we die on. Always fight censorship, always hate elites

    • @alanreed3584
      @alanreed3584 3 года назад

      pyrrhic victory

    • @fluffynator6222
      @fluffynator6222 3 года назад

      The what now?