Wynton McCurdy that’s only because we accept PEDs and violent/psychotic behavior off the field as normal for the NFL.. and no one dares look into PEDs for the NBA
@@drizzle452 Actually, they do test for PED's in the NBA. The starting center for the Phoenix Suns got suspended for PED's at the very beginning of this season.... So, what's that intelligent thing you were trying to say about the NFL? You really don't sound that smart...
Grasped Consciousness not the same. It’s a big difference when I can go on YT and see the Astros cheating for multiple games! Show me where I can go find the pats cheating ? I’ll wait.
The Astros shoulda been fined $50 million dollars, been forced to recind the 2017 World Series title, and some of the players shoulda been suspended, and fined! If Alex Cora is complicit in cheating, then take away the 2018 Bosox WS championship! My Dodgers possibly got screwed, with no K-Y, twice!!!! 😡
I live in Houston I’m not a big fan of baseball but I can tell you the city still appreciates the title. The thing I’m mad about is because the Astros were cheating and still couldn’t win a home game against the Nationals. That’s pretty horrible in my opinion. That’s probably the real reason why the managers got fired cheated and still couldn’t win lol
Announcing 4 new Inductees to the crowded Baseball Hall of Shame by unanimous votes: Mgr Carlos Beltran, Mgr Alex Cora, Mgr AJ Hinch, GM Luhnow Which only shows: Crime Does Pay !
Not a fan of any of the involved teams, but I can objectively say that the dodgers were absolutely better in 17 IMO. I’m not so sure if they were better than Red Sox in 18 though
Lance Armstrong also cheated during the race and got all his titles stripped and banned for life and sued and lost a lot of his money. So open up that can of worms.
@@aris_mendez There's no fundamental difference in this comparison. We're talking about a team as a single entity and one racer as a single entity which they are.
How's this for a punishment for the Astros: 1) Astros are disbanded. 2) All players part of this run, all executives, coaches, and anyone else tied to this get lifetime bans. 3) Any championships and accolades in their history up to now be permanently erased. Too harsh?
Way too harsh. Why punish the owner when they have nothing to do with the cheating? If anything, the players should be suspended since they helped with Cora in developing the cheating.
Shaving points because Tim the ref got money on the game is a personal gain by him. Houston cheated as a organization for a championship. So your take is off.
@@toddgeorge7421 the cheating wasn't using recording equipment cuz every team does that. The cheating was in not getting the other team's permission which was the Jets who blew the whistle on them as division rivals.
@@vigilantejustice5233 how is losing first round picks a slap on the wrist? Draft picks are the life blood of an NFL team. I bet you the Pat's would've preferred a Belichick suspension over that. Guaranteed
We do know the Dodgers would have won, though. The series went to 7 games and the most important game was game 5 in Houston. The Astros won that game like 13-12 or something and during that game Kershaw gave up a 4-run lead and a 3-run lead. Maeda was crushed in that game. Morrow was crushed in that game. Jansen was crushed in that game. Besides Jansen, the other 3 were basically lights out the rest of the series (including Kershaw who dealt in game 1 and 7 in LA). Without the cheating, the Dodgers would have smashed the Astros by like 10 runs in game 5 and would have won the series in 6.
What about players gaining bonuses in their contracts for team achievements from cheating? Or boosting their batting stats due to illegal stealing signs? Or pitchers winning games when they shouldn't have? Why no penalties for the players?
And the fans HAVE TO put it in their own hands to punish Manfred for screwing with OUR past time, by risking the integrity of OUR game by allowing these punks to mess with our game and failing to punish these guys to the proper degree... we must stop watching the games and attending the games so that the MLB feels the impact of what they did. I’m done watching or attending until the players are appropriately punished.
They fired the scouts because they knew exactly what pitches were coming before they were thrown. 😂 He’s banging on the garbage can again, it’s a change up. . Homerun!!!
We’ll never truly know the extent of the damage. It goes well beyond the possible theft of a championship. Pretty much every AL contender as well as the whole AL West made decisions based upon the Astros season that year and after. The damage to careers as well can never truly be measured. Yuli Guriel made “Chinese Eyes” directed at Yu Darvish while they knocked him around. How much of that was on Darvish’s inability to make pitches is a mystery. And then there’s Clayton Kershaw, and Kennedy Jansen who thy lit up in Houston as well. Especially in the pivotal game 5. What you did Houston, will reverberate for years and years to come bringing negative karma with it. Everyone outside of Houston will forever be a fan of the opposite team you face. And you deserve it.
Broussard +1 . Parker -5 . RP's position is unsupportable. Players should have been hit, and championship should be vacated. "Your punishment is that people don't feel good about the Astros." Cmon man. No way no how that's fair.
No, Chris and Rob. If you cheat on the field using technology, you didn't earn a damn thing if the other team played it straight. And you don't vacate the title, you forfeit the wins and award the Dodgers.
Doesn't matter if their championship is taken away or not. Its tainted now as are all the players and coaches on the team. Even the Astros fans cannot appreciate the title like they did before. Its meaningless.
Everybody talking bout dodgers, but in 2017 the year astros won the chip they faced my Yankees in the American League championship, and Yankees lost the first 2 at Houston then won the next 3 in New York then lost the next 2 at Houston
Forfeit their postseason wins and award the Dodgers the WS title and Yankees the AL. May seem weird, but that is how it should be done. The Astros didn't earn the title and actually cheated on the field of the play. That is a forfeit and affected teams should be awarded. That is real punishment and correcting the record.
Para will that is one pretty flawed solution. Who says LA beats NY? Nah, They should vacate the title at most but LA nor NY should be awarded anything. I don’t even think those two teams would want to win that way either.
@@vincegonzalez6804 - How is it flawed? Did the LAD compete in the WS? And since they competed and played within the rules, why should they be denied the title? The Yankees should be awarded the ALCS title for that year if the cheating affected their game as well, but there doesn't need to be a series with LAD. Yes, it may seem weird to some, but this is how you correct the record when cheaters steal championships. The Yankees were robbed of a ALCS title in the WS and LAD were denied a WS title. The Astros would be forfeiting those games which leads to those titles being given to their opponents. Those banners need to come down and placed with the rightful winners. You award those who competed within the rules. What the Astros did warrant their competition being recognized as rightful winners.
You don't vacate the title. You award the Dodgers the title due to forfeit by the Astros. MLB has to make this hurt and awarding the Dodgers the title would be proper given the offense. Yes, none of us would like to see things like that happen, but the fact of the matter is that the Astros basically forfeited their World Series win by using technology to cheat during the WS. MLB shouldn't hold the view that they are changing history if they vacate titles. No, you don't have to vacate anything when you can make cheating amount to forfeiting. There should be consequences for teams who cheat using technology and the best option is to award wins to the losing team, and give losses by way of forfeit to the violators.
You vacate the title at most. You don’t award LA anything. That’s just dumb. It will never happen nor should it. Teams get screwed. It sucks but it happens. All LA can do is try again this upcoming season
@@vincegonzalez6804 - No. They didn't get screwed, they were cheated. This isn't about a blown call or fan interference. This is about their opponent using technology at home games that put them in a significant disadvantage. Teams that CHEAT that way should forfeit their wins, which in this case, allows the LAD to be named WS champions. LAD played the games. They took the field and didn't cheat; therefore, they should be the champs. Vacating the title makes no damn sense because it was a competition where two teams played for the title. If one team cheated to win, the other team should be announced as winners. The LAD earned the title because they competed within the rules. It is the ultimate punishment to lay down against cheaters and it should happen.
Jomboy pretty sure said redsox didn't use tech in 2018 playoffs, both them and Yankees were warned. Check out yes network on RUclips Michael kay with jomboy.
Nothing will happen to the players because of the union. The 8 white Sox players in 1919 was banned for life. Difference. No players union back then. Now players get off Scott free
I'm not... But if YOU are anywhere in the Dodger or Yankee universe... You are hoooooooooooooot 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥. Hurting the Astros and Red Sox benefits Yankees more than anyone
Rob Parker is a JOKE! You take away the main reason for the Astros/Red Sox cheating which is the WORLD SERIES TITLES! The “slap on the wrist” punishment is going to just encourage more cheating..... 🤦🏽♂️😩😢 MLB baseball is finished
A camera out in centerfield that was being shown live on a monitor in between the dugout and clubhouse. Someone would decipher the catcher’s signals then bang on the trash can when an off speed was coming.
5million and a couple of draft picks...lmao what a joke.
5 million is the max that they can be fined.
Why not baby for life?
Pete Rose smoking a blunt laughing
Wanna bet?
Hahahaha, this video STARTED with a slap to the face. “Baseball, the dirtiest sport in America” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wynton McCurdy that’s only because we accept PEDs and violent/psychotic behavior off the field as normal for the NFL.. and no one dares look into PEDs for the NBA
@@drizzle452 Actually, they do test for PED's in the NBA. The starting center for the Phoenix Suns got suspended for PED's at the very beginning of this season.... So, what's that intelligent thing you were trying to say about the NFL? You really don't sound that smart...
@Dander Spat Nope. More cheating happens in Baseball than any other sport in America!
The media does any and everything to cover for New England
Keith Nowak mans comparing sports to 9/11 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@youngfuturesupreme3901 that was a absolute reach lol it's all a conspiracy 😂😂
Grasped Consciousness not the same. It’s a big difference when I can go on YT and see the Astros cheating for multiple games! Show me where I can go find the pats cheating ? I’ll wait.
Let baseball die. It's not worth saving when a common defense is "if you're not cheating you're not trying."
Rob is a fool they cheated ...stripped their titles...these clowns lost me I'm out ...
Normally I agree with Rob, but Chris hit the nail on the head.
Why aren't any players in trouble
Dj Thirst immunity if they talked.
Raider Ryan ding ding ding
Delete that championship.
Ban them from post season for a year.
Send the players to Hell for a year
The Astros shoulda been fined $50 million dollars, been forced to recind the 2017 World Series title, and some of the players shoulda been suspended, and fined! If Alex Cora is complicit in cheating, then take away the 2018 Bosox WS championship! My Dodgers possibly got screwed, with no K-Y, twice!!!! 😡
I live in Houston I’m not a big fan of baseball but I can tell you the city still appreciates the title. The thing I’m mad about is because the Astros were cheating and still couldn’t win a home game against the Nationals. That’s pretty horrible in my opinion. That’s probably the real reason why the managers got fired cheated and still couldn’t win lol
Announcing 4 new Inductees to the crowded Baseball Hall of Shame
by unanimous votes:
Mgr Carlos Beltran, Mgr Alex Cora, Mgr AJ Hinch, GM Luhnow
Which only shows: Crime Does Pay !
Stay tuned: Altuve may get in too !
Not a fan of any of the involved teams, but I can objectively say that the dodgers were absolutely better in 17 IMO. I’m not so sure if they were better than Red Sox in 18 though
Lance Armstrong also cheated during the race and got all his titles stripped and banned for life and sued and lost a lot of his money. So open up that can of worms.
Agreed
fred vergraaf team sport vs individual sport. Don’t compare. Try again.
@@aris_mendez There's no fundamental difference in this comparison. We're talking about a team as a single entity and one racer as a single entity which they are.
Lootroq so you’re gonna vacate every single players stats/achievements/and title ? Lol ok.
@@aris_mendez For that game? Yes
How's this for a punishment for the Astros:
1) Astros are disbanded.
2) All players part of this run, all executives, coaches, and anyone else tied to this get lifetime bans.
3) Any championships and accolades in their history up to now be permanently erased.
Too harsh?
That literally is a death penalty
@@Ghostkilla773 Well, strap 'em in and flip the switch. 😂
Way too harsh. Why punish the owner when they have nothing to do with the cheating? If anything, the players should be suspended since they helped with Cora in developing the cheating.
Ur a moron its not that serious its a game
@@FGPlus A game that has a dark history of cheating, PEDs, gambling, point shaving, etc.
Somehow, it has to end.
Basketball Chris? Basketball? Uh the Refs. Tim, anyone. Tim Donahuey. Yeah Chris, learn your job
Shaving points because Tim the ref got money on the game is a personal gain by him. Houston cheated as a organization for a championship. So your take is off.
@@DLOOT11 - yeah I know it's not totally the same, I just wanted to show Chris up.
At least Manfred actually suspended these guys unlike Goodell.....
Brady got suspended for deflate gate. What are you talking about? They also lost draft picks for the videos.
@Israel Rosario Jr.
Brady got suspended for 4 games, Bellichick didn't get suspended at all. The Pats got a slap on the wrist, cut the B.S.!
@@Israel-nb7ip I'm referring to spygate. Using recording equipment to cheat..
@@toddgeorge7421 the cheating wasn't using recording equipment cuz every team does that. The cheating was in not getting the other team's permission which was the Jets who blew the whistle on them as division rivals.
@@vigilantejustice5233 how is losing first round picks a slap on the wrist? Draft picks are the life blood of an NFL team. I bet you the Pat's would've preferred a Belichick suspension over that. Guaranteed
I guess Clayton Kershaw isn't a choker
Or yu darvish
Infinitah nah as a dodger fan speaking he still a choker.
He’s still a choker. But not as bad as a cheater
TAKE THAT 2017 CHAMPS TROPHY AWAY FROM THE FALLEN STARS!!
$5 million? Isn't that a signing bonus?? Lol.
We do know the Dodgers would have won, though. The series went to 7 games and the most important game was game 5 in Houston. The Astros won that game like 13-12 or something and during that game Kershaw gave up a 4-run lead and a 3-run lead. Maeda was crushed in that game. Morrow was crushed in that game. Jansen was crushed in that game. Besides Jansen, the other 3 were basically lights out the rest of the series (including Kershaw who dealt in game 1 and 7 in LA). Without the cheating, the Dodgers would have smashed the Astros by like 10 runs in game 5 and would have won the series in 6.
What about players gaining bonuses in their contracts for team achievements from cheating? Or boosting their batting stats due to illegal stealing signs? Or pitchers winning games when they shouldn't have? Why no penalties for the players?
And the fans HAVE TO put it in their own hands to punish Manfred for screwing with OUR past time, by risking the integrity of OUR game by allowing these punks to mess with our game and failing to punish these guys to the proper degree... we must stop watching the games and attending the games so that the MLB feels the impact of what they did. I’m done watching or attending until the players are appropriately punished.
What about the people who bets on these games? Astros down in the 9th and they know what pitch to take to win. Money gone, robbery.
They fired the scouts because they knew exactly what pitches were coming before they were thrown. 😂 He’s banging on the garbage can again, it’s a change up. . Homerun!!!
The Patriots weren't caught?? What??? The filmed the walk through the day before the super bowl!!!! Y'all gotta do better
We’ll never truly know the extent of the damage. It goes well beyond the possible theft of a championship. Pretty much every AL contender as well as the whole AL West made decisions based upon the Astros season that year and after. The damage to careers as well can never truly be measured. Yuli Guriel made “Chinese Eyes” directed at Yu Darvish while they knocked him around. How much of that was on Darvish’s inability to make pitches is a mystery. And then there’s Clayton Kershaw, and Kennedy Jansen who thy lit up in Houston as well. Especially in the pivotal game 5. What you did Houston, will reverberate for years and years to come bringing negative karma with it. Everyone outside of Houston will forever be a fan of the opposite team you face. And you deserve it.
Broussard +1 . Parker -5 . RP's position is unsupportable. Players should have been hit, and championship should be vacated. "Your punishment is that people don't feel good about the Astros." Cmon man. No way no how that's fair.
Love this show
USC and the Astros/Red Sox is not a good comparison. Reggie Bush/USC did not cheat during a game.
Love 💘 this show!!💯💯
No, Chris and Rob. If you cheat on the field using technology, you didn't earn a damn thing if the other team played it straight. And you don't vacate the title, you forfeit the wins and award the Dodgers.
Cheating saved baseball period lol
HOUSTON and Boston must relinquish their World Series titles and rings. Otherwise this punishment is bullshit and has little meaning.
Imagine if Belichick got suspended for a year
Cheating is cheating in any sports.
what about Tim Donahue in basketball chris?????
Doesn't matter if their championship is taken away or not. Its tainted now as are all the players and coaches on the team. Even the Astros fans cannot appreciate the title like they did before. Its meaningless.
Everybody talking bout dodgers, but in 2017 the year astros won the chip they faced my Yankees in the American League championship, and Yankees lost the first 2 at Houston then won the next 3 in New York then lost the next 2 at Houston
Forfeit their postseason wins and award the Dodgers the WS title and Yankees the AL. May seem weird, but that is how it should be done. The Astros didn't earn the title and actually cheated on the field of the play. That is a forfeit and affected teams should be awarded. That is real punishment and correcting the record.
Para will that is one pretty flawed solution. Who says LA beats NY? Nah, They should vacate the title at most but LA nor NY should be awarded anything. I don’t even think those two teams would want to win that way either.
@@vincegonzalez6804 - How is it flawed? Did the LAD compete in the WS? And since they competed and played within the rules, why should they be denied the title? The Yankees should be awarded the ALCS title for that year if the cheating affected their game as well, but there doesn't need to be a series with LAD. Yes, it may seem weird to some, but this is how you correct the record when cheaters steal championships. The Yankees were robbed of a ALCS title in the WS and LAD were denied a WS title. The Astros would be forfeiting those games which leads to those titles being given to their opponents. Those banners need to come down and placed with the rightful winners. You award those who competed within the rules. What the Astros did warrant their competition being recognized as rightful winners.
they dont have to strip the title away....EVERYBODY knows theyre not champions....all that matters
They should vacate the 2017 World Series title. But, they can’t because NFL let the Patriots keep their Super Bowl wins.
Draft picks are overrated when you can just sign the best international prospects anyway
Change your signs if they’re getting stolen! Bunch of whiners
Nope!
didn't roger maris have an astrice?
Opening a can of worms may be what is needed to prevent this from happening...maybe?
You don't vacate the title. You award the Dodgers the title due to forfeit by the Astros. MLB has to make this hurt and awarding the Dodgers the title would be proper given the offense. Yes, none of us would like to see things like that happen, but the fact of the matter is that the Astros basically forfeited their World Series win by using technology to cheat during the WS. MLB shouldn't hold the view that they are changing history if they vacate titles. No, you don't have to vacate anything when you can make cheating amount to forfeiting. There should be consequences for teams who cheat using technology and the best option is to award wins to the losing team, and give losses by way of forfeit to the violators.
You vacate the title at most. You don’t award LA anything. That’s just dumb. It will never happen nor should it. Teams get screwed. It sucks but it happens. All LA can do is try again this upcoming season
@@vincegonzalez6804 - No. They didn't get screwed, they were cheated. This isn't about a blown call or fan interference. This is about their opponent using technology at home games that put them in a significant disadvantage. Teams that CHEAT that way should forfeit their wins, which in this case, allows the LAD to be named WS champions.
LAD played the games. They took the field and didn't cheat; therefore, they should be the champs. Vacating the title makes no damn sense because it was a competition where two teams played for the title. If one team cheated to win, the other team should be announced as winners. The LAD earned the title because they competed within the rules. It is the ultimate punishment to lay down against cheaters and it should happen.
Their draft pics were going to be at the bottom of the rounds anyway. Therefore, not a punishment there. Cheaters get to keep their gains.
Does this mean LA got cheated twice?
5 million is peanuts should have been 150 million. They all cheat they just pick the ones to make an example of aka Jose Canseco and Barry Bonds.
Vacate the title
Yu Darvish is laughing at all these fools
Nah...no players that cheated were suspended or fined.
Dodgers fans should be pissed!!!
Is he a brother or is he a cornball brother ? 🤔
RG3
RLFLOWS
Lol glad you understood the reference
Stop saying strip the tittles that shits never gonna happen save your breath
The starting 9 knew, altuve is cooked
Any team LeBron James is on is automatically set to cheat mode
New York Knicks salary cap gate?
Vacant the damn title....put an asterisk on 2017 year
Jomboy pretty sure said redsox didn't use tech in 2018 playoffs, both them and Yankees were warned. Check out yes network on RUclips Michael kay with jomboy.
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Nothing will happen to the players because of the union. The 8 white Sox players in 1919 was banned for life. Difference. No players union back then. Now players get off Scott free
I'm not... But if YOU are anywhere in the Dodger or Yankee universe... You are hoooooooooooooot 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥. Hurting the Astros and Red Sox benefits Yankees more than anyone
The saints? NBA had refs fixing games
There's even a movie about it. Clowns who think their sport is cleaner than others always make me laugh
@@phillyfrenchy6053 some are just dirtier 🤷🏽♂️
They all knew and said nothing...Cheaters!
YANKEES WE STILL THE BEST!
Nope dodgers
Jose Altuve!
@@MrNaturalSez Go Stros 🤘
YEA CHEATER! CHEATER CHEATER CHEATER NO RESPECT!
Rob Parker is a JOKE! You take away the main reason for the Astros/Red Sox cheating which is the WORLD SERIES TITLES! The “slap on the wrist” punishment is going to just encourage more cheating..... 🤦🏽♂️😩😢 MLB baseball is finished
My Nats still won the World Series despite their cheating.😊
Rob is da man luv from brooknam
The Dodgers and Yankees should split those titles
Yankees have been owned by the Asstros the past 3 previous meetings. Those titles should just be vacated
Yung_Grouch Because the Astros cheated duh 🙄
The Gooch astros beat Yankees in a wild card game at your house
@@97NikeSb CHEATERS!!
Nah.
Hey, Broussard, should the New England Patriots vacate their SB title? Just curious.
they owe us two rings. I'll take it
WOW MLB coverage I must be bout to die
No one cares. Baseball sucks and has been dramatically declining since the 50s.
Sport blows
Love listening to these guys when I can but can someone explain what type of technology was used to cheat? Was it video, audio or...?
A camera out in centerfield that was being shown live on a monitor in between the dugout and clubhouse. Someone would decipher the catcher’s signals then bang on the trash can when an off speed was coming.
Is this worse than the White Sox Scandal?
No, but it’s close.
So what if we watched so it's ok
Houstonian. We dgaf about draft picks. Wanted AJ Hinch gone since the Series. 😂 Dodgers and Yankees still choke artists. Lmfao
Morris pumpkin eater
How many chips the Yankees have ? Oh okay
@@itssnoopy333 They suck so bad it couldn't even help them.
@@TommyVinMI Um ok..? Ha
Morris I’m from Houston too. Astros are a fkn disgrace. They’re done. Hope you enjoyed that fluke ass ship.
Im with ya Rob! Pats cheaters thru and thru
Sux to be a liar or cheater in Texas.
Sheesh
I'll never complain as long as the Yankees get screwed!