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@@jaefoo9368 why is having my own opinion d riding 😂 and that was McCants who kept complaining about stats and saying that's not his metric. Either way, my statement remains the same. Even tho I think that McCants trolls 99% of the time but this Kobe topic was really personal to him.
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You've perfectly summirized this. Mcants is vital to the show otherwise Gil might outtalk everyone else rightly or wrongly. Do you know where the Lebron hate from Mcants comes from?
Gilbert correct with the Goat debate. Kobe never surpassed Michael Jordan! Rashad said Kobe surpassed Michael Jordan due to scoring more points but it's not the same with Lebron?? Rashad does make the show more interesting but his emotions gets the best of him.
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i dont think mccants ever said kobe passed mj... he literally said "player 99... player 98"... mj is player 99... kobe 98... idk where you got that from LOL
@@loudpack3398he says it somewhere around the 40 minute mark of this video. He points to Kobe passing Mike on the scoring list as when he caught and passed him all time. But then wouldn’t use the same logic with LeBron lol.
Because it doesn’t help their silly argument… Listen to what Rashad is saying “Who looked the best doing it”, thats why when they bring up skills you have to bring up stats because stats show what those skills translates to on the court and on that court production wise Kobe didn’t do what LeBron did and is still doing
@@TheBoyyWonder100 I’m not saying stats is the only thing that matters. You have to consider stats, talent and resume in the discussion. Karl has 0 rings he could never be over Tim
Julius Erving, while maybe not the GOAT, was clearly Michael Jordan's placeholder, prior to 1984. Keep in mind, when looking at his stats, the NBA does not acknowledge his ABA accomplishments which significantly changes where he is at on a variety of statistical metrics all time.
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To me it was always Magic and Bird surpassed Kareem, MJ surpassed Magic and Bird, Lebron surpassed everyone but MJ. Kobe is somewhere in there with Duncan, Shaq, Bird. But not MJ
@@iamheheisi4450 Larry Bird came into the league in '79-80. Julius Erving had already played 8 professional seasons of basketball prior to their first meeting.
I can appreciate Rashad’s passion behind his argument..& he made it abundantly clear that his argument is PERSONAL! He’s also does everything he can to diminish Lebron’s accomplishments.. again it’s personal! Taking that out of the equation.. this Goat conversation is subjective as hell! I love Kobe! Kobe was a carbon copy of Michael! I also love Lebron! Lebron can literally play all 5 positions & 20 yrs later, he’s still excelling statistically! I grew up with both & Lebron and I are the same age.. born 2 weeks apart! Like or love who you want but to diminish one to prop up another is wrong as hell!
Im reading most of the comments and yours is the most balanced.Not hating on nobody. Just appreciation. Bron is my Goat but if you have Magic Mj Kobe or whoever as your Goat, power to you
Literally no one ever has said big facts about anything Rashad as said on this show… now because he’s defending your favorite player he’s big facts and mad respect😂🤣y’all are ridiculous
Usually mccants acts like a goof and has some really outlandish takes, but this is the episode where he really has a respectable presence on the show with the energy he brought for Kobe. Mad respect dude.
Yeah but rightfully so, a lot of people denigrate kobe out of the mix because of the scandals & because he's 2nd to jordan, but he worked his ass off to get the 2 titles w/o shaq. I'd still put bean over bron because of how lackluster bron's runs were with the heatles. @@iforeverfly
SAS was dead on accurate with his response. I respect McCants love for Kobe but his arguments and diatribes (honestly) are built on emotion. Gil was trying to afford the same respect while also addressing the basketball points but McCants' wanted to hear no part of it
@@allsixdegrees3845 Shaq just said you can't leave him out the convo, McCants' is saying Kobe needs to be number 2 and lebron can't be in there because he's not as "skilled" (whatever that means). Which is just dumb.
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Kobe is unequivocally my favorite player of ALL time, but no one else has to think he’s #1, 2 or 10. Stephen A doesn’t have to think Bean is even in the top 50. Initially he did not say anything negative about him, unTIL he tried diminishing his first 3 rings because Shaq was there
Mentioning Shaq doesn't diminish. But it's also mentioned because older ppl attempt to use it against guys today who went to different teams and won (KD, LB). It's no different. 🤷
I think the difference SAS was trying to make was that Shaq was Batman & Kobe was Robin. LBJ was always the alpha basically from year 1. And with all of his championships he was Batman.
@@bighomiejarv3528..he never told Kobe to his face LeBron was better than him....nobody was going to tell Kobe that at the time LeBron with 2 less rings & after making however many straight Finals in the East didn't even make the playoffs his 1st year in the West, you weren't about to tell Kobe to his face he wasn't better than that ..
@allsixdegrees3845 considering passing, the rebounding and the fact that LeBron can score at will when he had to, yes I would take Bron. People say Bron isn't a great scorer but he's been top 10 in scoring since his 13th season
@@basedkeztwo totally different career paths and playing situations. Peak for peak you see who’s the better scorer and it’s not close. Lebron is great in his own right ofc but cmon
Im sorry but idc how much they say it, it DOES matter that he cane into the league with prime shaq on his team already averaging 26 and 12. Shaq won a mvp, 3 finals mvps and lead the team in scoring 6 out of the 8 years. Kobe had the privilege of getting to develop into the player he was cause he had the most dominant player of all time in the paint who was gonna get double and triple teamed every possession, lebron came intk the league at the same age as kobe in the worst sports city across all sports and IMMEDIATELY had to be the man and carry them to glory, kobe got another top 10 player on his team or historically great coach, in a historically great franchise, lebron didnt get that it was JUST lebron.
Stop trying to use that dumb statement about Kobe having Shaq because Lebron had Wade Bosh Love Kyrie AD but you don’t use them against LeBron so how could you ever try and use Shaq against Kobe!!! 🤔🧐🤨😒🤬🤬
@@darealsleepy7485that's coz they were LeBrons supporting cast not the other way around. Bron has always been the best player in his team. You couldn't say that about Kobe which is why, despite having more rings than LeBron, he has less FMVPs.
@@darealsleepy7485 All those guys were sidekicks even Wade himself insisted he lead in Miami, Bosh was damaged goods from the beginning, same with Love and to a lesser extent Kyrie whom Wade and AD always were injured in crucial moments during playoff runs in particular. The bottom line all those guys recognized LBJ as the leader without question weither he was coming to them or they were coming to him. Don;t forget Shaq won a chip sooner than KObe with Wade before he was done showing you that his dominance travels. LBJ has three Cities (two major Miami and LA) that have banners in the rafters he brought there who else has done that.
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Gil sometimes is the smartest person on his panel. Gilbert isn’t saying there wasn’t a GOAT before Jordan, he’s saying there was no GOAT “debate” before Jordan. Everybody just had their own favorite players back then but they weren’t being ranked against each other in the same way we do now.
McCants' argument is all over the place. You need a criteria!!!! That's Gil point. You have Kobe based on your criteria, you can't dispute others for having their owns.
he said his criteria is literally skill + dominance. not stats. LeBron is the GOAT when you mention stats, he said without stats just looking at how people played and how good they were at what they did, he has Kobe over LBJ.
Gil isn’t factual either. Dr. J was the GOAT before MJ according to MJ, Magic and others. Dr. J says Kareem was the GOAT before him. He’s left out to openly hating the media as a player and being abrasive to other players. Wilt was GOAT before Kareem in terms of skill - fadeaway, step back, etc and athleticism Jumping from free throw line for a whole season to lead the league in free throw %.
Okay let’s go by criteria 4-10 in the finals Went 127-37 back to back years never made the finals Swept twice in the finals Been on three different teams Great all around basketball player All time leading scorer All I see is a modern day magic Johnson wit athleticism How tf is that better than Mike or Kobe logically. He has a losing record in the finals against the spurs and warriors but da goat smh cause he just simply consistent. I want dominate practically unbeatable in the big games not ah guy who’s lost more than he’s won in the big games.
I have no idea wtf that even means. If yall all truly cared about the foundation you’d rank Bill Russell top 3-5. You’d have Dr. J in the top 10. You’d talk more about Oscar Robertson, Elgin Baylor, Moses Malone, etc.
@@pookyman12 that comment wasn’t just directed at him. It was general statement for the other 10+ people who also liked that comment and felt similarly. Don’t be hypocritical when it comes to your favorite player not being ranked were you want them. Kobe also isn’t the foundation of basketball. He’s like 3 generations late to that party. Idk how you can be the foundation when you literally modeled your entire game from the previous generation
Chris brussard wrote an article in 2010 after kobe won his 5th championship calling him best laker of all time. Now this guy has kobe barely top 10 like most of these media guys and magic as goat laker. I think thats what shaq and rashad are kinda pointing at. The way the media started putting kobe lower and lower every year after his achilles and post retirement. Guys like nick Wright came outta nowhere on TV.
@KingRais1 so him being elite for 17 years all goes out the window because he wasnt the same post achilles for his last 2 or 3 years?. Plus by the time magic and all these other guys were already retired so it's not like they could do anything to move above kobe like they were still playing. The media just had an agenda to push kobe down.
@@invincible0463 That’s what happens with almost any star player who loses a lot of pep in their step. It momentarily stains their legacy. It’s hard to ignore it while we have to watch it in real time. It’s not until after that player retires that we erase it from history. No one mentions post-achilles Kobe just like no one mentions Wizards MJ, or the one season when Magic came back after a 4 year hiatus.
@ChrisFluhnoy I get that but that's like me having lebron as a top 2 player of all time then saying hes not even top 5 if he had a bad final season. Magic was already retired so it's not like magic couldve added anything to his legacy to surpass kobe if you already had kobe above him.
Gil you know they tried to move kobe out of the spot but it’s semantics that media outlets have to play. Very great debate from the Gil, Kenyon, and Mccants though.
He been moved out the spot wtf are we even talking about what’s the criteria ppl base this argument on …there is a lot of ppl who have took sorry ass teams to the finals but never won basketball is a team sport the 🐐 convo is based on stats
@@factzovafiction9240 no it’s not the conversation that was being discussed in the segment wasn’t solely about stats it was also about skills and the way “goat” is used. Learn how to listen!
@@sickofuhoesbru so u going on skills not stats in that case Kyrie Jamal Crawford etc can be 🐐 if u going off of skill …learn how to listen huh…learn how to debate in a way that makes sense…I’m sure u agree with McCants a lot
Great ep, just wish the audio and video quality was steady all the way through... Only vid ive ever seen from yall that was iffy on production so i got faith in the people out back, after all making Rashad's dumb ass crown not be glarin in the cam must be harder than playback quality and yall do put out some great content :)
@@hendrickson35 don’t worry fam I refreshed like a dozen times at a minimum in hopes it fixed and was one step away from the unplug it and plug it back in method 😂
Everyone is forgetting how this conversation originated, Stephen A was tripping on Allen Iverson cuz he said Kobe was the second greatest player. Stephen A criticized Allen for his opinion
@@thialhoinj1971..how you losing that debate every time when NBA players are the ones choosing Kobe the majority of thd time over the guy NOT named Jordan
Damn Mccants really don’t be making real compelling arguments lol. He said a lot but there are ways to get your point across with actual evidence vs just saying we see how he plays. Like this was his chance to really make a point as to why Kobe better than Lebron with basketball language and he just said “because that’s my brother” lol. Was hoping for more
He wasn’t making the point that Kobe is better than lebron. He was asserting his opinion on what really matters about the game and how Kobe’s legacy is being diminished while not being present. 🤦♂️
@@sickofuhoesbru Obviously. That’s why I made this comment. I would’ve liked him to actually give us some player insight and perspective vs trying to make a point about Kobe not being loved. The nigga wasn’t a likeable guy. So just as he shitted on his teammates it’s getting reciprocated occasionally but nobody leaving Kobe out of the top 10 players EVER out of 5000+ players to ever play lol.
Mccants said goes off talent then agrees Vince had more talent, while time he going hard at Gil for stats but then bring other players do t have the body of work. He was all over the place
McCants contradicts himself. He's mad when someone mentions stats, but then he says Kobe passed MJ for #1 when he passed him in points. I love Kobe but at no point did he pass MJ. Therefore the best Kobe ever did was #2, which to Gil's point he gets bumped done the list by any newcomers on the list like LeBron. Its not a alight because if that's the case we are slighting passed great.
@LukeHazel the rings argument is stupid. Kareem has 6 rings with 6 MVPs. Magic has 5 rings with 3 MVPs. Rings aren't the deciding factor in the GOAT debate or the top 10 because if it was Russell would be #1 with 11 rings in 13 years. I'm not even saying LeBron is the GOAT, but he did pass Kobe. It's a collection on accolades and winning that puts LeBron at #2. No one is disrespecting Kobe, so you need to stop.
People should stop debating when they’re emotional because they stop listening to logic. Gil made complete sense if you take all emotion from the conversation. They just couldn’t even process it because they were emotionally connected.
lechock never won without team hopping. lechock couldn't even beat old tim and old dirk on superteam in their 20s kobe is better than lebron. kobe was playing both ways and closing games for shaq. even shaq got fouled out kobe came back hurt and saved shaq during finals. lechock couldn't even make the playoffs with prime ad or his "playoffs mode" trying to copy kobe. lmfao lechock is stat padder lmfao if you can't win while stat padding no one cares. lechock can't even win with superteams while playing 0 defense. with gil's stupid logic lechock isn't even in convo. lechock ain't top 5 all time. he can't win without team hopping. lechock only has cheap rings and he will be forgotten as time goes on.
@@dasun13 dude said numbers are irrelevant in the goat debate lmao. He knew he'd get skinned because by almost every metric Bron is better. He literally only wants to talk "talent" which lebron is still just as talented as Kobe. Maybe not as SKILLFUL of a scorer but I'm also tired of down playing lebrons scoring abilities. Idk man people are just nuts sometimes smh
I would love to see lethal shooter in the shooter competition since he only shoot on Instagram videos I never seen this dude in a game or competition, I wanna see how good he really is
If you’ve followed SAS then you’d know he’s always called Kobe out. Even to the point where Kobe actually called him by phone a few times. Of SAS couldn’t help but brag about it
That skilled debate thing is so subjective. Why don’t people add lebrons skill of passing? Being able to control the game like a true floor general while basically scoring just as many points as Kobe or MJ is incredibly hard. People like McCants only look at skill from a scoring aspect. Lebron in his prime gives Magic floor general PG skills with MJ or Kobe level scoring simultaneously. Jokic one of the only players able to do the same thing in nba history. Luka too maybe but Lukas defense not close to peak bron.
@@mcdiesel7505Kobe is definitely the most skilled ever when you take into account arsenal of moves. Can do every move in the book with both hands, score with both hands, counters on top of counters. He was never just a straight line athlete so he had to make up for it with abundance of moves. I’m not saying he’s the best but he’s gotta be like top 5 discussion imo
@@Redclxxd nah yeah they just talking about scoring killer instinct shit like that , Gil made great point tho Cuz lebron in my eye did past Kobe but Jordan I can legit understand why some people have him as number 1 I don’t debate it but being a number 2 on championship team for 3 rings I can’t push Kobe over he could be anywhere from 3-7 imo
@@dibakarchowdhury3201 Very well articulated comment, I respect your thoughts but how can he be more "SKILLED" than Kyrie? KYRIE can do all of that with either hand and shoots better from 3. Do me this solid, go look at Kyrie finishes in the paint at 6'1" and tell me you still feel that way?
Having kobe top 3 or top 5 is ok for me, having him barely top 10 which started happening in the media after his achilles everyone started trying to revise his whole career.
Exactly…and they pushing their narrative to make Bron 2, that’s y. And that’s why McCants and Shaq feel a way. Even A.I said the same thing on his show he had w. T-Mac. Shit corny. And we can see, it’s the media and the NBA tryna push a narrative to make the people start to believe it, and it’s not true. Shit corny
That's what I have a bigger problem with. Too many people started push Kobe further down and down the list once he started to slow down and it was clear he wasn't going to get 6.
@cheetah219 the last few years of kobes career was depressing. If the CP trade happens he doesn't have to play 40 minutes carrying the team and do his achilles. He has an opportunity to catch kareems scoring record and an opportunity of getting a 6th ring.
He doesn't seem like a Kobe guy. He is admittedly a slacker, underachier, was a sucka to the bitches and at the end made excuse. Why tf would Kobe be his "brother"? Hard to see 🤷
Lol, that's because of his r@pe allegations. Especially when he was not convicted and the "victim" is a white woman. We are in 2024 and y'all still haven't figured out how media can destroy a man's legacy. Y'all still pawns, lol. Steve Nash was 2 times league MVP in Kobe's prime, lol. #pawns
Because Stephan A at no point ever told Kobe to his face thar LeBron was better than him while he was alive ..if you actually remember when yheu were having those discussions on TV Stephan A would always hedge as if it could go either way. His whole LeBron absolutely #2 energy didn't start till well after Kobes death..
Never heard it put that way exactly before, but absolutely loved “GOAT of accomplishments does exist.” Fantastic differentiator. Montana vs Brady. Jordan vs Kareem. Kobe vs LeBron. They are all legit GOATS, all legends, but there is a separator and that nails it.
For everyone saying mccants point is bad, it’s really not based on what Gil is saying to his logic bc Kobe résumé stops after he’s done playing and lebron bc he is still playing is going up in numbers then Kobe gotta be pushed out bc lebron is still going. Mccants point is bc Jordan stop playing in the early 2000s and Kobe kept playing and was upping his numbers and resume then Kobe had to be number 1 over Jordan in Gil’s logic
@@eliedamey5265 no no he said after he already stated that Kobe didn’t bc resumes when Kobe was playing didn’t match Jordan’s which changes the goal post if his main point is when Kobe stopped playing his stats and other accolades stopped being accumulated so when lebron passes him is due to him getting more to his resume but Mccants is saying by Gil’s logic then at one point Kobe had to have been number 1 bc when Jordan finally stopped playing and Kobe is still playing getting more on his resume then at some point while he’s playing he was number 1
@@thialhoinj1971 no here’s the thing I disagree with mccants that Kobe was over Jordan at any point of his whether Jordan kept playing or not. I’m going off of the logic Gil gave that someone stops playing so their stats, accolades and resume is now done while the other person who is still playing are increasing their stats, accolades and etc so by technicality at one point Kobe was over mj at some point which I don’t feel is true but by the logic that he was using here that’s why I said that
Where did gil sound slow at ik this conversation will be pointless as you already called yourself a love syan but where in there conversation did he sound slow. Kobe isn't the most talented, and he dosent have the best stats.
@@6ixR0llobviously you heard what you wanted to hear and and didn't hear how much "slow" a$s gil switched up and kept switching up from stats to talent. dude was moonwalking like Michael Jackson bro. Listen closely next time u duck.
Two things I struggle to understand when it comes to these Kobe debates… 1. Kobe fans dont really think he is GOAT because he copied everything about MJ and didn’t do as much as MJ did, MJ has the better stats, accolades, won more in less time so Kobe fans are really arguing against LeBron more than they are arguing for Kobe’s GOAT case(which I think is dumb) 2. Kobe’s GOAT debate sums up “skills”… thats all I ever hear, “his footwork”, “his post game”, “his will to win” and all thats cool but how can we put Kobe over a guy in LeBron who’s been in the playoffs more, done more winning in the playoffs, better stats, more accolades, dominated as the league’s best player for longer than Kobe ever did… Like cmon man, there’s no logical argument you could use to put Kobe #1 all time and lastly, Gil is right the debate is only 2 people everybody else isn’t apart of it
Because he won with less, minus Shaq, Fisher, Fox, Grant👀👀really bro. For the pass 10 plus years LeBron start with one roster and finish with another plus coaches.
I have Kobe over Lebron because he has more championships more defensive accolades despite bron being healthier and he beat tougher comp overall on top of his skill on both sides of the ball I mean he does have the most defensive selection for a guard all time on top of being one of the greatest scorers the league has ever seen. The goat debate will never be unanimous in favor of one player it’s subjective because everyone criteria is different. My problem is people use Shaq to diminish Kobe but don’t keep the same energy for bron Jordan magic Kareem bird Duncan etc. I’m ok with people saying Jordan or bron is the goat they both have cases but we don’t have to disrespect Kobe’s greatness cause you disagree.
The part that Stephen A and a lot of people in the world are missing about this subject that Rashad didn’t convey (which I understand) Is the REASON for this whole ordeal. Allen Iverson who is clearly entitled to his NBA opinion seeing as he played the game against Jordan, Bron and Kobe put Kobe at #2. And Stephen A couldn’t wait to shoot that down. Then started coming up with reasons like “oh he played with shaq so he can’t even be top 5” yet it’s no penalty to Magic or Kareem. Like Stephen A could’ve left the entire subject alone and let A.I have his ranking. And the media tends to do that often. The minute a player comes out and praises Kobe , media correspondents like Stephen A can’t wait to tell you why he’s not.
MCants is SOOOOOOOOO ignorant like geez! How did he get into UNC with a brain like that? Like how are you almost 40 years old but can't see simple logic, even if you dont agree with it. Lol I know lebron fans get bad reps for sensitivity but these Kobe fans are getting outta hand. Now apparently the goat debate is a pure talent conversation. Lol so kobe is #2 because of his work ethic and footwork. Kenyon and Rashad cleverly hide behind FEELINGS and Mccants wants to do away with ALL numbers to remove lebrons case. How can you have a who's better conversation and ignore all numbers just to say who's game you preferred? The ignorance shown by 2 grown men here is ASTOUNDING. Martin and Rashad should be absolutely ashamed of themselves smdh.
I swear Kenyon be dying in the inside 😂😂😂😭
Lmaoo im just happy he keeps it on the inside now, he used to be ready to KO McCants. Now he just let him cook and burn down the kitchen 😂😂
He really be do, he be try'na be nice & respectful
Gotta know it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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I see why Gil has McCants on the show. Never seen anyone argue the wrong point so passionately 😂
Makes for a good show
Facts and it makes me wonder if he understands this and would argue otherwise saying he makes valid point all the time 🤣
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stop d riding and open your ears Gil is dead wrong on the GOAT debate, he says stats don't matter but keeps bringing up stats
@@jaefoo9368 why is having my own opinion d riding 😂 and that was McCants who kept complaining about stats and saying that's not his metric. Either way, my statement remains the same. Even tho I think that McCants trolls 99% of the time but this Kobe topic was really personal to him.
Mccants debates with his heart and not his mind 😂😂
STEPHEN A SMITH IS FAKE, PHONY AND FRAUDULENT
STEPHEN. A SMITH
1 NEVER PLAYED HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL
2. STEPHEN NEVER PLAYED COLLEGE BASKETBALL
3.STEPHEN A SMITH NEVER RECEIVED A BASKETBALL SCHOLARSHIP TO WINSTON SALEM STATE
4 STEPHEN A SMITH DID NOT PLEDGE OMEGA PSI PHI AT WINSTON SALEM STATE UNIVERSITY
5 .STEPHEN A SMITH BECAME AN HONORARY MEMBER OF OMEGA PSI PHI
THESE NBA PLAYERS COVER FOR STEPHEN A SMITH BY ALLOWING HIM TO KEEP LIVING ON A LIE
THEN THESE GUYS DEMEAN THEMSELVES NBY EVEN ARGUING WI TH A SCRUB AND MAKING HIM BIGGER HIM THAN WHAT HE IS
Great analysis. So many people do these days.
You mean Gilbert because he is the only one yelling.
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He’s doing it intentionally, it’s called being a tv character.
Love when Rashad defines the work.
Gil be yelling and sweating with those two proving him facts and he just dont wanna loose😂😂😂
Rashad is the Skip Bayless of this show 😂
Facts! Total idiot!!!
You've perfectly summirized this. Mcants is vital to the show otherwise Gil might outtalk everyone else rightly or wrongly. Do you know where the Lebron hate from Mcants comes from?
@@Fab_rice95I'd like to know why he hates LeBron too.
Maybe Bron cut him from some team 🤔
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R.I.P Kobe, Mamba Forever 🐍🕊️
RIP Kobe 🏀 👑
Kenyon’s answer to the Kobe/Lebron/MJ debate, while Gil and Rashad were arguing, was top notch class and utterly amazing
I love this episode 😂 that was a perfect way to shatter a man’s opinion when he’s wrong…
Gilbert correct with the Goat debate. Kobe never surpassed Michael Jordan! Rashad said Kobe surpassed Michael Jordan due to scoring more points but it's not the same with Lebron?? Rashad does make the show more interesting but his emotions gets the best of him.
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so how is MJ still the GOAT and he's been stopped playing? by Gils logic
@@jaefoo9368 resume maybe?? And bron my fav but MJ resume is strongest.
i dont think mccants ever said kobe passed mj... he literally said "player 99... player 98"... mj is player 99... kobe 98... idk where you got that from LOL
@@loudpack3398he says it somewhere around the 40 minute mark of this video. He points to Kobe passing Mike on the scoring list as when he caught and passed him all time. But then wouldn’t use the same logic with LeBron lol.
When the game is literally based on who scores the most I don’t understand how you can’t use stats in the GOAT debate
Because it doesn’t help their silly argument… Listen to what Rashad is saying “Who looked the best doing it”, thats why when they bring up skills you have to bring up stats because stats show what those skills translates to on the court and on that court production wise Kobe didn’t do what LeBron did and is still doing
@@TheRealPaulyD mccants only said you can't use stats because Gil told him not to use them in a different argument
Game is based on winning 😂
Well that means Karl Malone is better than Tim Duncan!! Thats why?!
@@TheBoyyWonder100 I’m not saying stats is the only thing that matters. You have to consider stats, talent and resume in the discussion. Karl has 0 rings he could never be over Tim
Julius Erving, while maybe not the GOAT, was clearly Michael Jordan's placeholder, prior to 1984. Keep in mind, when looking at his stats, the NBA does not acknowledge his ABA accomplishments which significantly changes where he is at on a variety of statistical metrics all time.
Magic took over for dr j
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To me it was always Magic and Bird surpassed Kareem, MJ surpassed Magic and Bird, Lebron surpassed everyone but MJ. Kobe is somewhere in there with Duncan, Shaq, Bird. But not MJ
Bird owned Dr J
@@iamheheisi4450 Larry Bird came into the league in '79-80. Julius Erving had already played 8 professional seasons of basketball prior to their first meeting.
I can appreciate Rashad’s passion behind his argument..& he made it abundantly clear that his argument is PERSONAL! He’s also does everything he can to diminish Lebron’s accomplishments.. again it’s personal! Taking that out of the equation.. this Goat conversation is subjective as hell! I love Kobe! Kobe was a carbon copy of Michael! I also love Lebron! Lebron can literally play all 5 positions & 20 yrs later, he’s still excelling statistically! I grew up with both & Lebron and I are the same age.. born 2 weeks apart! Like or love who you want but to diminish one to prop up another is wrong as hell!
Im reading most of the comments and yours is the most balanced.Not hating on nobody. Just appreciation. Bron is my Goat but if you have Magic Mj Kobe or whoever as your Goat, power to you
Somebody tell rashad to take that mic he be takin the biggest gulps I've ever heard
Mccants the type to argue just to see you mad. He know he be wrong or he just slow
He is a total idiot‼️
DAMN! The audio was bad on the best argument! That’s ok though! Love the show!
I thought something was wrong with my headphones, what the hell
Audio was horrible… gotta get the production people tighter. Great show!
MAN! I thought they were cutting shit out cus I’m barely watching it.
Oh I get it now, as long as LBJ is not in the G.O.A.T. conversation everything is all good (Rashad 🤡 McCants Thinking)
Not what he said at all😂😂 he’s saying outta respect for him mention his name
BIG FACTS!!!!! Mad respect to Rashad! Stand on business big homie!!!!🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥
Dude so dumb lol.
Literally no one ever has said big facts about anything Rashad as said on this show… now because he’s defending your favorite player he’s big facts and mad respect😂🤣y’all are ridiculous
Usually mccants acts like a goof and has some really outlandish takes, but this is the episode where he really has a respectable presence on the show with the energy he brought for Kobe. Mad respect dude.
Naw he was just overly emotional, nobody was talking bad about Kobe, just giving THIER opinion, who’s in the goat debate. He took it to another level.
Yeah but rightfully so, a lot of people denigrate kobe out of the mix because of the scandals & because he's 2nd to jordan, but he worked his ass off to get the 2 titles w/o shaq. I'd still put bean over bron because of how lackluster bron's runs were with the heatles. @@iforeverfly
You’re an idiot
Nah just emotional 😂 , Kobe not top 3 .
SAS was dead on accurate with his response. I respect McCants love for Kobe but his arguments and diatribes (honestly) are built on emotion. Gil was trying to afford the same respect while also addressing the basketball points but McCants' wanted to hear no part of it
Shaq agreed with McCants. idk what y'all talking about. lol,
@@allsixdegrees3845 Shaq just said you can't leave him out the convo, McCants' is saying Kobe needs to be number 2 and lebron can't be in there because he's not as "skilled" (whatever that means). Which is just dumb.
@@allsixdegrees3845shaw also said lebron the goat
N all shaw said was keep him in the convo!!!!
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@@ChargersCity Amen 🙏
Kobe is unequivocally my favorite player of ALL time, but no one else has to think he’s #1, 2 or 10. Stephen A doesn’t have to think Bean is even in the top 50. Initially he did not say anything negative about him, unTIL he tried diminishing his first 3 rings because Shaq was there
Mentioning Shaq doesn't diminish. But it's also mentioned because older ppl attempt to use it against guys today who went to different teams and won (KD, LB). It's no different. 🤷
@thefamily5357 No older guys use the fact that in this era these guys get to pick their teams and when they lose there's an excuse.
I think the difference SAS was trying to make was that Shaq was Batman & Kobe was Robin. LBJ was always the alpha basically from year 1. And with all of his championships he was Batman.
Go back to kobe on first take after he retired , he said everything he talk about to kobe face and kobe didnt disagree or was mad about it
@@bighomiejarv3528..he never told Kobe to his face LeBron was better than him....nobody was going to tell Kobe that at the time LeBron with 2 less rings & after making however many straight Finals in the East didn't even make the playoffs his 1st year in the West, you weren't about to tell Kobe to his face he wasn't better than that ..
Rashad is funny he brings a different edge to the show I use to think he’s corny but he’s consistent so he’s authentic
He’s a real man. He fine with being himself all the time. Gotta respect it
Gotta respect him bruh. He earned mine tbh
Happy yall finally coming around… this nigga mad entertaining even when he’s on some BS 😂
He’s an authentic fool. The most irrelevant person in the podcast space.
Consistently wrong and corny lol
Love the intelligent,heated and passionate debates
I hear you but you lost me at intelligent.....
I don’t want McCants on my debate team AT ALL. He’s mad funny though.
McCants be having valid points
Gil is ridiculously funny bruh McCants is perfect comic relief
There's more to ball then just putting the ball in the hole in a fancy way. Bron is an elite passer, playmaker, and a team leader.
would you pick him over Kobe Bryant if you had to build a team, both at their absolute peak?
@allsixdegrees3845 considering passing, the rebounding and the fact that LeBron can score at will when he had to, yes I would take Bron. People say Bron isn't a great scorer but he's been top 10 in scoring since his 13th season
you forgot turnovers and defense gil got cooked
I’m glad Kenyon Shaq and maccants all stood up for Kobe and his skill level. Massive respect.
Nobody ever knocked that …. Lebron is just a better overall player Kobe is a better skilled scorer
@@shawnsmith8335Eh. If Kobe was a better overall scorer why is Lebron the leading scorer in NBA history?
@@css1741they usually don’t answer that
@@basedkeztwo totally different career paths and playing situations. Peak for peak you see who’s the better scorer and it’s not close. Lebron is great in his own right ofc but cmon
@css1741 thas like saying Kareem a and Malone were better scorers than Jordan. Which everyone (the players) knows is false
No one can bash Kobe to bring LeBron up. But everyone can bash LeBron to bring Kobe up. What a joke!
Big facts
Lol lebron is the NBA cash cow we recognize that we recognize he’s great but greatTEST no not close.
@@PraisestoYah so Kobe is close?? Lmao make it make sense
They don’t love lebron like Kobe bruh I’m sorry it is what it is my g
McCants a clown lol
My guy Rashad wore the Stephen a smith shirt 😂😂
Im sorry but idc how much they say it, it DOES matter that he cane into the league with prime shaq on his team already averaging 26 and 12. Shaq won a mvp, 3 finals mvps and lead the team in scoring 6 out of the 8 years. Kobe had the privilege of getting to develop into the player he was cause he had the most dominant player of all time in the paint who was gonna get double and triple teamed every possession, lebron came intk the league at the same age as kobe in the worst sports city across all sports and IMMEDIATELY had to be the man and carry them to glory, kobe got another top 10 player on his team or historically great coach, in a historically great franchise, lebron didnt get that it was JUST lebron.
Stop trying to use that dumb statement about Kobe having Shaq because Lebron had Wade Bosh Love Kyrie AD but you don’t use them against LeBron so how could you ever try and use Shaq against Kobe!!! 🤔🧐🤨😒🤬🤬
@@darealsleepy7485that's coz they were LeBrons supporting cast not the other way around. Bron has always been the best player in his team. You couldn't say that about Kobe which is why, despite having more rings than LeBron, he has less FMVPs.
We can farm for maxed out builds. On countdown or summit
Rashad can't be taken seriously. Dude has no brain.
@@darealsleepy7485 All those guys were sidekicks even Wade himself insisted he lead in Miami, Bosh was damaged goods from the beginning, same with Love and to a lesser extent Kyrie whom Wade and AD always were injured in crucial moments during playoff runs in particular. The bottom line all those guys recognized LBJ as the leader without question weither he was coming to them or they were coming to him. Don;t forget Shaq won a chip sooner than KObe with Wade before he was done showing you that his dominance travels. LBJ has three Cities (two major Miami and LA) that have banners in the rafters he brought there who else has done that.
I felt bad for Gil trying to explain Goat 😂
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Cause he’s slow
Gil sometimes is the smartest person on his panel. Gilbert isn’t saying there wasn’t a GOAT before Jordan, he’s saying there was no GOAT “debate” before Jordan. Everybody just had their own favorite players back then but they weren’t being ranked against each other in the same way we do now.
@@Anthony-ni8wd people not getting the different conversations they was having and take it personally.
He Works For Klutch Sports. He’s Just Another Lebron Minion Spreading Lies Like Kendrick Perkins, Richard Jefferson, Etc. 😂 Shit Sad
McCants' argument is all over the place. You need a criteria!!!! That's Gil point. You have Kobe based on your criteria, you can't dispute others for having their owns.
he said his criteria is literally skill + dominance.
not stats. LeBron is the GOAT when you mention stats, he said without stats just looking at how people played and how good they were at what they did, he has Kobe over LBJ.
Gil isn’t factual either. Dr. J was the GOAT before MJ according to MJ, Magic and others. Dr. J says Kareem was the GOAT before him. He’s left out to openly hating the media as a player and being abrasive to other players. Wilt was GOAT before Kareem in terms of skill - fadeaway, step back, etc and athleticism Jumping from free throw line for a whole season to lead the league in free throw %.
Okay let’s go by criteria
4-10 in the finals
Went 127-37 back to back years never made the finals
Swept twice in the finals
Been on three different teams
Great all around basketball player
All time leading scorer
All I see is a modern day magic Johnson wit athleticism
How tf is that better than Mike or Kobe logically. He has a losing record in the finals against the spurs and warriors but da goat smh cause he just simply consistent. I want dominate practically unbeatable in the big games not ah guy who’s lost more than he’s won in the big games.
Gik gives the absolute worst takes on damn near everything 95% of the time
@@nateSF084better competition
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Bro that goat debate at this point is nothing but a headache, Gil bro you can’t shit on the dudes who set the foundation bro
I have no idea wtf that even means. If yall all truly cared about the foundation you’d rank Bill Russell top 3-5. You’d have Dr. J in the top 10. You’d talk more about Oscar Robertson, Elgin Baylor, Moses Malone, etc.
@@j_the_don5160maybe he does have respect for the legends you named... you don't know him to make that statement. 😂😅
@@pookyman12 that comment wasn’t just directed at him. It was general statement for the other 10+ people who also liked that comment and felt similarly. Don’t be hypocritical when it comes to your favorite player not being ranked were you want them. Kobe also isn’t the foundation of basketball. He’s like 3 generations late to that party. Idk how you can be the foundation when you literally modeled your entire game from the previous generation
Chris brussard wrote an article in 2010 after kobe won his 5th championship calling him best laker of all time. Now this guy has kobe barely top 10 like most of these media guys and magic as goat laker. I think thats what shaq and rashad are kinda pointing at. The way the media started putting kobe lower and lower every year after his achilles and post retirement. Guys like nick Wright came outta nowhere on TV.
Because Kobe’s years after that we’re extremely inefficient and hard to watch
@KingRais1 so him being elite for 17 years all goes out the window because he wasnt the same post achilles for his last 2 or 3 years?. Plus by the time magic and all these other guys were already retired so it's not like they could do anything to move above kobe like they were still playing. The media just had an agenda to push kobe down.
@@invincible0463 That’s what happens with almost any star player who loses a lot of pep in their step. It momentarily stains their legacy. It’s hard to ignore it while we have to watch it in real time. It’s not until after that player retires that we erase it from history. No one mentions post-achilles Kobe just like no one mentions Wizards MJ, or the one season when Magic came back after a 4 year hiatus.
@ChrisFluhnoy I get that but that's like me having lebron as a top 2 player of all time then saying hes not even top 5 if he had a bad final season. Magic was already retired so it's not like magic couldve added anything to his legacy to surpass kobe if you already had kobe above him.
@@invincible0463after 2010 Kobe won 0 playoff series for 6 years. Kobe fans but stop the nonsense Kobe us not mj or lebron. It's okay.
Kenyon be sick of Mccants 🤣🤣🤣
😂 he be sick of all of em except for Lexie. And that’s cause she don’t say sh t
they were literally agreeing for the whole Kobe//GOAT debate..
Oh absolutely
@@allsixdegrees3845 they was kool this episode…I thought he was gone cut up from the intro 🤣🤣
@@Itzmatt89 I mean 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ can you blame him
The way the world idolize just scoring is crazy when basketball so much more
Gil wasn’t quick enough with the “Pause” 😂😂😂 definitely getting clipped lol
Gil you know they tried to move kobe out of the spot but it’s semantics that media outlets have to play. Very great debate from the Gil, Kenyon, and Mccants though.
He been moved out the spot wtf are we even talking about what’s the criteria ppl base this argument on …there is a lot of ppl who have took sorry ass teams to the finals but never won basketball is a team sport the 🐐 convo is based on stats
@@factzovafiction9240 no it’s not the conversation that was being discussed in the segment wasn’t solely about stats it was also about skills and the way “goat” is used. Learn how to listen!
@@sickofuhoesbru so u going on skills not stats in that case Kyrie Jamal Crawford etc can be 🐐 if u going off of skill …learn how to listen huh…learn how to debate in a way that makes sense…I’m sure u agree with McCants a lot
Great ep, just wish the audio and video quality was steady all the way through... Only vid ive ever seen from yall that was iffy on production so i got faith in the people out back, after all making Rashad's dumb ass crown not be glarin in the cam must be harder than playback quality and yall do put out some great content :)
I take my complaint back, the more Rashad argues and creates bs to support his side, im almost happy it cuts out 🤣
I agree great episode 🎉
But annoying audio😢
Right that shit is horrible fucking up the whole damn debate smh get a new engineer asap lol
Glad I found this comment man I thought it was my connection tripping 🤦🏾♂️
@@hendrickson35 don’t worry fam I refreshed like a dozen times at a minimum in hopes it fixed and was one step away from the unplug it and plug it back in method 😂
McCants is so damn emotional to have a objective debate lol
That promo was sick
Gil keeps Rashad on for laughs fr 😂
Kmart blowing smoke rings on the other side during the goat debate😂😂😂
He funny like who gaf they all different in they own right 😂
dude with the crown is the biggest clown
Everyone is forgetting how this conversation originated, Stephen A was tripping on Allen Iverson cuz he said Kobe was the second greatest player. Stephen A criticized Allen for his opinion
That's fair. You can say Kobe the goat if you want but you're losing that debate everytime.
@@thialhoinj1971..how you losing that debate every time when NBA players are the ones choosing Kobe the majority of thd time over the guy NOT named Jordan
The mic whenever it was going out was blowing me man still a good episode tho😂😂
Man I thought It was my ear piece lmao
K Mart speaking all facts on this GOAT debate.
Damn Mccants really don’t be making real compelling arguments lol. He said a lot but there are ways to get your point across with actual evidence vs just saying we see how he plays. Like this was his chance to really make a point as to why Kobe better than Lebron with basketball language and he just said “because that’s my brother” lol. Was hoping for more
He wasn’t making the point that Kobe is better than lebron. He was asserting his opinion on what really matters about the game and how Kobe’s legacy is being diminished while not being present. 🤦♂️
@@sickofuhoesbru Obviously. That’s why I made this comment. I would’ve liked him to actually give us some player insight and perspective vs trying to make a point about Kobe not being loved. The nigga wasn’t a likeable guy. So just as he shitted on his teammates it’s getting reciprocated occasionally but nobody leaving Kobe out of the top 10 players EVER out of 5000+ players to ever play lol.
Mccants was all over the place. And emotions based
Mccants said goes off talent then agrees Vince had more talent, while time he going hard at Gil for stats but then bring other players do t have the body of work.
He was all over the place
@@jayt0321 yeah he clearly an emotional dude lol
McCants just took d riding to a WHOLE NEW LEVEL 😂😂
Yeah imma have to go with mccants with this one 💯
Loved Kenyon's words on looking at GOATS generationally and his respect for Isaiah Thomas I wholeheartedly agree.
*zooms In on his shirt* “I accept your apology” 😂😂
McCants contradicts himself. He's mad when someone mentions stats, but then he says Kobe passed MJ for #1 when he passed him in points. I love Kobe but at no point did he pass MJ. Therefore the best Kobe ever did was #2, which to Gil's point he gets bumped done the list by any newcomers on the list like LeBron. Its not a alight because if that's the case we are slighting passed great.
kobe still got more rings than lebron so stop it
@LukeHazel the rings argument is stupid. Kareem has 6 rings with 6 MVPs. Magic has 5 rings with 3 MVPs. Rings aren't the deciding factor in the GOAT debate or the top 10 because if it was Russell would be #1 with 11 rings in 13 years. I'm not even saying LeBron is the GOAT, but he did pass Kobe. It's a collection on accolades and winning that puts LeBron at #2. No one is disrespecting Kobe, so you need to stop.
@LukeHazel Shaq gave him free rings though
Kenyons take on Akademiks was spot on😂😂😂😂😂
Yea i agree but danny aslo shouldn't be cheating
Stfu , men meant to cheat .. we not meant to be monogamous..
@@jashardwallington Forgot the whole situation bro, Ak a bih😂
kenyon hit t mac with a stray 😂 he got a point, T mac is more like a culture hero, his resume isnt that hof-ish 😂
& his is ? 🤔😂
@meatwrd hell no his isn't! two things can be true 🤣
People should stop debating when they’re emotional because they stop listening to logic. Gil made complete sense if you take all emotion from the conversation. They just couldn’t even process it because they were emotionally connected.
lechock never won without team hopping. lechock couldn't even beat old tim and old dirk on superteam in their 20s kobe is better than lebron. kobe was playing both ways and closing games for shaq. even shaq got fouled out kobe came back hurt and saved shaq during finals. lechock couldn't even make the playoffs with prime ad or his "playoffs mode" trying to copy kobe. lmfao
lechock is stat padder lmfao if you can't win while stat padding no one cares. lechock can't even win with superteams while playing 0 defense. with gil's stupid logic lechock isn't even in convo. lechock ain't top 5 all time. he can't win without team hopping. lechock only has cheap rings and he will be forgotten as time goes on.
@@ultraego1892 LITERALLY everything you said is ridiculous. That's hard to do.
Exactly 💯
“She was just married to a real pastor boy” lolllllllllllll I fell out 😂
It’s clear as day that Gil got that check and phone call before this episode 😂😂😂
Cheque*
What's clearer is McCants loving Kobe with his heart and not using his brain for basketball takes lmfao 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@PrinceCortezJonesfacts
Not really, y’all just be chatting
@@dasun13 dude said numbers are irrelevant in the goat debate lmao. He knew he'd get skinned because by almost every metric Bron is better. He literally only wants to talk "talent" which lebron is still just as talented as Kobe. Maybe not as SKILLFUL of a scorer but I'm also tired of down playing lebrons scoring abilities. Idk man people are just nuts sometimes smh
Mccants I been screaming this too for years! You spitting nothing but factoids!
He is an idiot ‼️🤣
Putting Drake in the conversation with mj is crazy😂😂😂
Audio fuckin up arguably the greatest argument on the show ever 😭
I would love to see lethal shooter in the shooter competition since he only shoot on Instagram videos I never seen this dude in a game or competition, I wanna see how good he really is
If you’ve followed SAS then you’d know he’s always called Kobe out. Even to the point where Kobe actually called him by phone a few times. Of SAS couldn’t help but brag about it
He's never told Kobe to his face LeBron was better than him..
Skill is one thing , Kobe was the most skilled player , but overall you combine everything Lebron is the best overall player imo
How is Kobe more skilled than Kyrie, Curry, Isaiah Thomas, Tracy McGrady? Just another false narrative these guys pushing to get the likes up
That skilled debate thing is so subjective. Why don’t people add lebrons skill of passing? Being able to control the game like a true floor general while basically scoring just as many points as Kobe or MJ is incredibly hard. People like McCants only look at skill from a scoring aspect. Lebron in his prime gives Magic floor general PG skills with MJ or Kobe level scoring simultaneously. Jokic one of the only players able to do the same thing in nba history. Luka too maybe but Lukas defense not close to peak bron.
@@mcdiesel7505Kobe is definitely the most skilled ever when you take into account arsenal of moves. Can do every move in the book with both hands, score with both hands, counters on top of counters. He was never just a straight line athlete so he had to make up for it with abundance of moves. I’m not saying he’s the best but he’s gotta be like top 5 discussion imo
@@Redclxxd nah yeah they just talking about scoring killer instinct shit like that , Gil made great point tho Cuz lebron in my eye did past Kobe but Jordan I can legit understand why some people have him as number 1 I don’t debate it but being a number 2 on championship team for 3 rings I can’t push Kobe over he could be anywhere from 3-7 imo
@@dibakarchowdhury3201 Very well articulated comment, I respect your thoughts but how can he be more "SKILLED" than Kyrie? KYRIE can do all of that with either hand and shoots better from 3. Do me this solid, go look at Kyrie finishes in the paint at 6'1" and tell me you still feel that way?
Gil be contradicting himself! McCants won that Kobe debate
MCcants contradicted tf outta hisself 😂😂😂
facts lol youtube videos up now e got cooked bad they exposed the bron push lolol
@@Natcorain lies that was gil he still aint say who te hell put bron 1 lol when what year
Biiiiiiggggggg Respect Rashad on the Kobe praise also agree 1000% and been saying this shit for years!!!!
Thank u Rashad n Kenyon for keeping it 💯 on Great Kobe n lebum
Is it me or the audio cuts off at times?
Having kobe top 3 or top 5 is ok for me, having him barely top 10 which started happening in the media after his achilles everyone started trying to revise his whole career.
Exactly…and they pushing their narrative to make Bron 2, that’s y. And that’s why McCants and Shaq feel a way. Even A.I said the same thing on his show he had w. T-Mac. Shit corny. And we can see, it’s the media and the NBA tryna push a narrative to make the people start to believe it, and it’s not true. Shit corny
That's what I have a bigger problem with. Too many people started push Kobe further down and down the list once he started to slow down and it was clear he wasn't going to get 6.
@cheetah219 the last few years of kobes career was depressing. If the CP trade happens he doesn't have to play 40 minutes carrying the team and do his achilles. He has an opportunity to catch kareems scoring record and an opportunity of getting a 6th ring.
McCants really keeps this show going nomatter the topic🎉 bless that man
I guess. He makes shit hard to watch for me with his inability to grasp simple concepts. He argues emotionally, and consistently moves goalposts.
This shit would be dry af without shad
@@darnarxz😂😂😂😂😂
@@darnarxz bruh are we watching the same thing cause I swear that they both was playing semantics not only rashad?
@@darnarxz what was you just watcing gil got cooked lol keep up kid
Kobe didn’t know who Rashad Mccants was man…
How do u figure that? How can u speak on who that man know?
He played him at least 20 x with in 5years . Kobe study's everybody
the media treats kobe like they do because of that bs in colorado, fans & players love & respect him
THIS CONTENT is dope af. THANKS! lol BUT AUDIO & VID is lagging.
If mccants really never chilled with kobe which I think we all think he didn't, then he's mad delusional. Hopping on someone's death flowers.
He doesn't seem like a Kobe guy. He is admittedly a slacker, underachier, was a sucka to the bitches and at the end made excuse. Why tf would Kobe be his "brother"? Hard to see 🤷
ik u wanna hate on mccants but udk him or kobe to know that gang
@@justinmason7091 it's not hate lol I never chilled with kobe either
Kobe wasn’t in the goat debate while he was alive, now that he has passed away there’s a magical aura around him doesn’t make him better than LeBron
Not true at all lmao
Exactly bro 💯💯💯 that'd be so delusional
You’re smoking a different kind of crack 😂
@@brandonlarranaga2813it's facts bro.. just like 2pac lovers
Lol, that's because of his r@pe allegations. Especially when he was not convicted and the "victim" is a white woman. We are in 2024 and y'all still haven't figured out how media can destroy a man's legacy. Y'all still pawns, lol. Steve Nash was 2 times league MVP in Kobe's prime, lol. #pawns
How tf y’all gone put lebron 3 it’s only 2 at the top lebron and Mj everybody else get in where they fit in tf is wrong with y’all
Facts bro but I always had Kobe behind MJ then Bron I don’t see Lebron getting another ring
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The media Rankings and The Players Rankings Are completely different !! 💯
Uncle Kenyon blowing Os had me weak ash🤣🤣
Keep speaking facts GIL 😂😂👌🏽
G.O.A.Ts of each decade….
1960s: Russell
1970s: Kareem
1980s: Magic & Bird
1990s: MJ
2000s: Kobe
2010s: Lebron
So no wilt
The disrespect to Dr J is crazy sheesh 😮💨
Y’all avoided the “you didn’t have the same energy when he was alive” convo after Stephen A said he personally talked to Kobe about it
If u mean McCant he always defended Kobe while he was alive
Because Stephan A at no point ever told Kobe to his face thar LeBron was better than him while he was alive ..if you actually remember when yheu were having those discussions on TV Stephan A would always hedge as if it could go either way. His whole LeBron absolutely #2 energy didn't start till well after Kobes death..
When someone passes away not all thoughts are relegated to being positive
Never heard it put that way exactly before, but absolutely loved “GOAT of accomplishments does exist.” Fantastic differentiator. Montana vs Brady. Jordan vs Kareem. Kobe vs LeBron. They are all legit GOATS, all legends, but there is a separator and that nails it.
Wait bron ain’t in the convo for most talented ever??
Right.. they hatin
lol bro he’s just a big as hell 😂no he’s great but not most talented
If he was 6’6 220 would he be doing the same thing
@@tylersuggs11 you sound crazy as hell.
For everyone saying mccants point is bad, it’s really not based on what Gil is saying to his logic bc Kobe résumé stops after he’s done playing and lebron bc he is still playing is going up in numbers then Kobe gotta be pushed out bc lebron is still going. Mccants point is bc Jordan stop playing in the early 2000s and Kobe kept playing and was upping his numbers and resume then Kobe had to be number 1 over Jordan in Gil’s logic
Nice, so ur also an idiot
Just because Kobe kept playing does not mean he was ever able to surpass Jordan, he had the chance to but never did which is what Gil explained🤦🏿♂️
@@eliedamey5265 no no he said after he already stated that Kobe didn’t bc resumes when Kobe was playing didn’t match Jordan’s which changes the goal post if his main point is when Kobe stopped playing his stats and other accolades stopped being accumulated so when lebron passes him is due to him getting more to his resume but Mccants is saying by Gil’s logic then at one point Kobe had to have been number 1 bc when Jordan finally stopped playing and Kobe is still playing getting more on his resume then at some point while he’s playing he was number 1
As a Kobe fan I can tell you lebron passed Kobe a decade ago. It's okay to say Kobe is not on mj or lebron level
@@thialhoinj1971 no here’s the thing I disagree with mccants that Kobe was over Jordan at any point of his whether Jordan kept playing or not. I’m going off of the logic Gil gave that someone stops playing so their stats, accolades and resume is now done while the other person who is still playing are increasing their stats, accolades and etc so by technicality at one point Kobe was over mj at some point which I don’t feel is true but by the logic that he was using here that’s why I said that
Mccants slow lol
He was on Good Morning America, that's not "Black Media" Lmao
The way kmart be sayin seven gets me rollin every time 🤣
Shad & Stephen A are 2 things I couldn’t possibly care less about
Yet you’re here with 2¢ that we could care less about, goofball!
Shaq been said LeBron was the goat .. there's several interviews.... Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce called him the goat
McCants for President 😊😊Katt status.....you bring real conversation to the show....Clutch Sports workers get paid😂😂😂😂
Don’t ever compare that bum to Katt Williams in NO TYPE of way…
on behalf of all the diehard Kobe Stans THANK U Rashad McCants. Gil sound slow
Where did gil sound slow at ik this conversation will be pointless as you already called yourself a love syan but where in there conversation did he sound slow. Kobe isn't the most talented, and he dosent have the best stats.
@@6ixR0ll obviously u heard wat u wanted hear and didn't listen to how many times "slow" a$s gil switched up & kept switchin' up. Listen again u duck.
@@6ixR0llobviously you heard what you wanted to hear and and didn't hear how much "slow" a$s gil switched up and kept switching up from stats to talent. dude was moonwalking like Michael Jackson bro. Listen closely next time u duck.
@@NEWJACKson445 resorting to name calling was a Cornball move. And reshad brung up talent so wtf r u even talking about.
I believe they gonna need pie charts for Rashad to keep up 😂😂😂
Somebody isolate Kenyons "lower" 😂 we need that on repeat when people miss
Two things I struggle to understand when it comes to these Kobe debates…
1. Kobe fans dont really think he is GOAT because he copied everything about MJ and didn’t do as much as MJ did, MJ has the better stats, accolades, won more in less time so Kobe fans are really arguing against LeBron more than they are arguing for Kobe’s GOAT case(which I think is dumb)
2. Kobe’s GOAT debate sums up “skills”… thats all I ever hear, “his footwork”, “his post game”, “his will to win” and all thats cool but how can we put Kobe over a guy in LeBron who’s been in the playoffs more, done more winning in the playoffs, better stats, more accolades, dominated as the league’s best player for longer than Kobe ever did… Like cmon man, there’s no logical argument you could use to put Kobe #1 all time and lastly, Gil is right the debate is only 2 people everybody else isn’t apart of it
Exactly! Lebron and Jordan is 1a and 1b
Tell me you don't know basketball with saying it🤨
Because he won with less, minus Shaq, Fisher, Fox, Grant👀👀really bro. For the pass 10 plus years LeBron start with one roster and finish with another plus coaches.
I have Kobe over Lebron because he has more championships more defensive accolades despite bron being healthier and he beat tougher comp overall on top of his skill on both sides of the ball I mean he does have the most defensive selection for a guard all time on top of being one of the greatest scorers the league has ever seen. The goat debate will never be unanimous in favor of one player it’s subjective because everyone criteria is different. My problem is people use Shaq to diminish Kobe but don’t keep the same energy for bron Jordan magic Kareem bird Duncan etc. I’m ok with people saying Jordan or bron is the goat they both have cases but we don’t have to disrespect Kobe’s greatness cause you disagree.
@@KeepItReal213hells naw.
Mike is GOAT in his own level and Bron is not there 😂
The part that Stephen A and a lot of people in the world are missing about this subject that Rashad didn’t convey (which I understand)
Is the REASON for this whole ordeal. Allen Iverson who is clearly entitled to his NBA opinion seeing as he played the game against Jordan, Bron and Kobe put Kobe at #2.
And Stephen A couldn’t wait to shoot that down. Then started coming up with reasons like “oh he played with shaq so he can’t even be top 5” yet it’s no penalty to Magic or Kareem.
Like Stephen A could’ve left the entire subject alone and let A.I have his ranking. And the media tends to do that often. The minute a player comes out and praises Kobe , media correspondents like Stephen A can’t wait to tell you why he’s not.
MCants is SOOOOOOOOO ignorant like geez! How did he get into UNC with a brain like that? Like how are you almost 40 years old but can't see simple logic, even if you dont agree with it. Lol I know lebron fans get bad reps for sensitivity but these Kobe fans are getting outta hand. Now apparently the goat debate is a pure talent conversation. Lol so kobe is #2 because of his work ethic and footwork. Kenyon and Rashad cleverly hide behind FEELINGS and Mccants wants to do away with ALL numbers to remove lebrons case. How can you have a who's better conversation and ignore all numbers just to say who's game you preferred? The ignorance shown by 2 grown men here is ASTOUNDING. Martin and Rashad should be absolutely ashamed of themselves smdh.
These guys talking in code this whole show
Refs should have to do mandatory post game interviews