Not really most of it is just Word play honestly, you could say the exact same thing without all of the BS in the middle to make you sound more intelligent than you actually are.
TheAutistWhisperer maybe that is why humans arent that inteligent, the humans who were, didnt reproduce and didnt pass their genes. Evolution in action.
I suspect that's where he picked up the language, but it's probable he'd find any ideology that supports and rationalizes his fear of social interaction. You could make environmental or religious arguments and come to the same conclusion. I'd guess he's depressed and the reason he's using "moral" and "ethical" so much is because the it's the only thing he has to make himself feel better about some crippling social anxiety. It's like the suicidal person rationalizing that they won't be a burden to others anymore.
This kind of mindset (without "morality" rationalization, but with something similar) is pretty widespread. That's why some men find MGTOW stuff so enlightening: "Woah, I don't have to define my worth by my usefulness to society and can just live for my own sake?!" And that's why "I'm burden to everyone" is probably the most often heard words by male suicide counselors.
As a moral Nihilist I avoid all these questions entirely - ethics are socially constructed and change with the rise and fall of social orders: I give them little heed and pursue my interests instead.
Yes - and it's the formation of a strong will that society seeks to repress: those who create and abide by their own ethical codes of conduct are hard to manipulate into serving the "greater good" as defined by those in power within a given social order.
well, i am one of the people who don't like interacting with others. i don't try to justify it as "standing on the moral highground because i don't want to bother others", i just don't like human interaction. if i were to try and get me a girlfriend, i would have to make changes to how i live and i don't like it so i refrain. i don't refrain to not cause her distress nor because i feel like it would be bad for her, i do it because i consider the whole process too much of a pain to bother with it.
Ahahah, goodness. That has to be one of the sadder things I've had read to me. Shame I have an allergy to ethanol...so I'll stick to extra-strength coffee and take shots 'till I get heartburn.
He's a pretty mild case. I don't want to look up and spread the link, but there was a guy who asked his doctor to chemically castrate him because being Schroedinger's rapist was stressing him out so much.
This argument could easily be applied to ANY CHANGE in life whatsoever. If I go out for groceries, I may delay the guy in the car behind me causing him to get a red light that would have been green and making him 1 minute later to an appointment. However, if I don't go, they may get into a car accident by not stopping at that light. If I buy this apple and it's ripe it increases the chance someone else will have to take an unripe one from the pile. However, I may be saving them from one that's been randomly poisoned. If I wear a red shirt, it might distress someone that's color blind who I happen to pass on the street. However, I might distract a random raging bull and save people. That's why the argument ultimately holds no water. The fact that you may cause someone or yourself mild and momentary discomfort in the act of saying, "Good Morning" is simply not valid because simply because living at that of an extreme is no way one can function long term. It's also placing FAR to much importance on how most people would view the encounter with you. Simply put, 99 times out of 100, your at best the odd person they tell friends a mildly funny/weird story about. You're not that important.
Well women say if he isn't man enough, they don't want anything to do with them. At the same time women say they hate being hit on all the time or bothered. So when women have memes trying to "educate" men that they shouldn't hit on women, but whine when we don't. So I say give up and go MGTOW.
Man just think 10-20 years from now we will have advanced sex bots and be laughing at all this junk going on. Woman will still be crying,but we will not care.
This guy is probably trolling - turning feminists arguments about how unwanted advances ("street harassment") can be so harmful to women against them. If so he's doing a good job ha. I also hate it when Dr. Nerdlove says "my dude".
This is a pretty clear case of obsessive-compulsive personality disorder (note: OCPD is different from regular OCD). He needs psychiatric treatment from an MD, regular therapists are a bunch of quacks who aren't going to help him with his issues.
You might laugh, but this was my autistic way of thinking back at the day. Why should i approach people and maybe it would do more harm than good just talking to someone. Almost in fear that people would label me creep or end up using me as doormat. It's weird rationalization that generates over time when you are stuck in social anxiety limbo, that instead of just approaching anyone you start to overthink about it. It really is nothing more but a low confidence thing; lacking a daddy and being raised by feminist mommy tends to do that, just sayin.
Can confirm, purely protoautistic sperging from this guy. More extreme than I have ever fallen into, but exactly the same line of "thinking" that plagued me back in the day and still weighs me down.
Question is why you should approach people. For myself I have few reasons: to get information, to get their assistance, to answer their request for help/information if want to. However, unlike that guy, I don't care much about feelings of others, just like they usually don't care about mine. Unless, of course, there are some benefits from it - then I have to care or at least pretend to care.
Making conversation with someone is neither force nor fraud and therefore has no moral implications in and of itself whatsoever. This question absolutely defines the term "Overthinking things". My own fav part of the response is when he calls the guy out for denying female agency, just like all feminsts (male and female) absolutely LOVE to do.
No, this man has peak gynocentrism. He's a bit fuzzy with terminology, but he actually believes what he says. He measures his self worth entirely by how women like him (so he wants to talk to them to get that validation) But women disliking him even a little is worst thing that could happen. He certainly needs professional help, but the way author put it is a bit dangerous. - Hey doc, I think I'm evil for wanting to talk to girls, so I don't talk to them, is it alright? - No, it's evil to not talk to them too, also you're lying about thinking you're evil, making you evil. He might be fucked beyond repair now.
There is another possibility. That he's a creep who's just fishing for pity. Never forget boys and girls, sociopaths LOVE pity. It's another way to control you.
Society exists to serve the people composing it. The moment people start to serve it more than they benefit from it is usually the momment it starts to disolve.
Sounds like someone who has low self-esteem and tends to over-analyze situations. The wordy question may either be a defense mechanism or they forgot it would be better to be succinct rather than let their entire thought process spill over into the question.
I think this guy's problem can be described as "kindergarten teacher's complex" "if I am good and sweet, peopole will like me" bad news for him there... If you are good and sweet, peopole will at best ignore you and at worst use you as a doormat. No matter their gender.
Sounds like poorly justified crippling levels of Social Anxiety. The condition itself SHOULD NOT BE MADE FUN OF ...but his rationalization was a good mile and half up its own ass
Especially as most normal people would simply respond "thanks, but I am not interested" with a smile, which means he improved their emotional state by a small margin.
RGE, sadly I've met people in this article. In my estimation, although I'm not a head Dr. at least not IRL . . . just on the net, the one I'm thinking of was far too gone. I don't know how any therapist would fix them. If someone has the ear of Jordan Peterson, perhaps send this his way. Also, I have no knowledge of Kotaku, other than their role in Gamergate, but everyone I know imply that Kotaku is a cross between AIDS, ebola, and your run of the mill cancer.
I can understand the whole "shy about approaching people" part, I mean, I can relate being the timid little fuck that I am, but that's no excuse to not try and make any friends. I'm at least trying to work on my social retardation... and trust issues.
I'm 39 and I've been like this guy for as long as I can remember. I know it's pathetic, but it's true. I've been taking this line of thinking to it's extreme for as long as I can remember as well. Good friends try to help, but it's like firmware. I think I've been needing a flash. Been thinking about mushroom therapy.
I am the type of intellectual who just chooses to say what I enjoy and if other people don't like it, they don't have to listen to me. Sometimes I talk too much about anime, I sometimes talk too much about Japanese Games. Sometimes I talk too much about Australian Football. Sometimes I talk too much about Manga and my fav western comics that involve Jungle Girls. Sure I get allot of strange looks, but it is better than to stay quiet about everything. And there are times when I just stay quiet like when I am on a train. So there are situations when I am quiet and I keep to myself but when it comes to meeting a girl I like, I just go all out with my interests and see what sticks with them.
That's the only way to be sure. If they are annoyed at your interests from the start, you know you don't have much of a future with that person anyway.
That is where you and I have to disagree. On the only going to Kotaku when I am linked thing, I never go there and I usually get pissy with people giving them too much traffic.
Thanks for reminding me why I'm in therapy about this, rather than continuing to feed into my pathological self-loathing lined with glorification. It's mostly just a confidence issue though, I wouldn't read too much "intellectual intent" into this. It does amaze me that he went as far as writing it out like this, though. Hopefully the authors answer rattles him a bit to think about pulling the breaks on that mental gravy train.
While somewhat off topic, I'm reminded of an article I read analyzing Spider-Man's "responsibility". It came down to how Spider-Man assumes he's so important that any attempt to balance his life would cause catastrophe. This leads him to be extremely irresponsible to the people in his personal life, especially to the aged aunt who raised him and would be less stressed if Peter were with her during her numerous hospital stays.
At first I would tell this guy just to get some manners and behave in a civilized fashion. But then I notice he's getting on the train to crazy town, so I walk away instead.
Cthulhu doesn't care about you or any other human - he prohibits you from nothing as you are merely an insect in his sight? Begone from me heretic! Fhtagn is the lord!
Oh..the socially awkward? the loner..the urban hermit has always existed..but the internet is like an immersive training environment for the tendency.. Like what used to average a level 8 with a rusty knife is now running about a Level 40 with some epic gear.
I've always been a shy and socially awkward person. There it is, the truth, without dressing it up in faux intellectualism or pretending to have a morally superior position.
Okay, this man is literally thinking the same shit i thought as a teenager and i have no longer have any illusion at this point that these people have lived outside themselves so long they've must have only discovered introspection really fucking recently
6:04 omg I laughed so hard! The entire readership of kotaku! haha! (I guess this whole thing starts to make sense when you consider that THAT is the target audience huh?)
I wonder if I can use this kind of arguement to avoid harassment for not dating the butter golems at work? "I barely consider it ethical for me to even exist, and now here you are demanding that I impose on you by accepting to date you? Fie, I say, fie!" And then I dance away and leave her completely baffled while I internally laugh my ass off. Also, I was wondering if you could tell me where you get your...err...topless lamia cage dancers. I want one for my home because, if anything, it's one helluva conversation piece. "She works for salmon. Yeah, I think I accidentally got a naga girl as opposed to a lamia girl. I couldn't bring myself to send her back because they looked the same at the time of ordering and I didn't want to come off as racist or something."
My ethics are to the right of Stalin, my moral compass is to the north of Hitler, and my logical thoughts frequently axe murder my emotions. Ergo, I am a bad person.
I hate to say it but some of these people today are just cupcakes I don't get it. These ppl, my generation have totally lost their freaking minds, and they are not as morally great as they all think they are .
This guy is going to die alone if he does not change his views on relationships. I feel sad for him cuz he is making himself think this way. He does not have to think that way.
I seek out other people for my own personal benefits and well being. I honestly hate socializing for too long myself, but I know at some level, it's beneficial for me to socialize for at least a few days a week, so I go out seeking like-minded people just to hang out with. I've learned to do this from MGTOW and the 48 Laws Of Power. Not to mention, once you end up living the MGTOW lifestyle, you automatically end up showing an aura of confidence most cucked men never show, because you've learned to basically stop giving two fucks what other people think about you. Because of this, at least for me, I end up seeming extremely confident when I'm around other people; and as a result, more people end up trusting and liking me more, which means more opportunities, career or hobby wise, open up for me.
I'm not much of a people person. I enjoy my video games more than being with people.. Why? Its just who i am. My Autism might play a part in it, but i've always been this way.
Honestly this is the kind of person best ignored. Do not look at the faux-intellectual, don't feed the faux-intellectual. Let this pitiful creature stew in its irrelevance.
Ok... Emotions are not moral or immoral, they are Amoral. It is what you do with them, but even acting upon them isn't necessarily bad. Anger can lead you to harming someone, but it can also inspire you to deal with the bigger problem. Finding someone attractive isn't "good" or "bad" and asking them out doesn't enter morality just because they might be "mildly annoyed"
I don't think I've ever felt so much cringe...I think we have found the ultimate beta. I'm starting to wonder too if these people always existed or if they are a creation of the times we live in, because I just can't remember stupidity of this magnitude being such a regular occurrence for the majority of my life. It has to be something new.....I hope. Actually, I'm going to amend this a bit due to a comment I saw. They suggested that this was done to him by the feminist agenda....and I realize that's a possibility. He could have been raised by a single mother and then dumped into the school system as it is now. He could've been taught to be like this....If so that's very sad. His entire life has been damaged if that's the case, all to push feminism, which has done nothing more than make both men AND women miserable.
really this is a well thought out feminist result on the first step in relationships. given how feminists want men to do everything to keep from hurting any woman's feelings the moral argument of approaching women that you like is in fact an issue. if you approach them you might make them feel uncomfortable, if you don't they never know what they are missing and thus don't feel bad. obviously the feminists should want men to never approach them, and of course that means that women need to approach men instead, though that could result in women having to go outside their comfort zone so that shouldn't be expected either. talk about a catch 22.
Let's look at the bright side of this situation. All these people have little to no chance of procreating, so they won't be around for much longer. It's a dead end and will slowly fix itself. On the other hand, have you heard about the WHO organization moving to classify video game addiction as a "gaming "disorder in 2018?
Great, more teaching about how to be "normal person". If I want to waste all my life playing video games, it's my own choice and it's my own life to waste. I am not telling you how to treat Ebola, AIDS and other diseases, and you don't tell me what to do with my life.
*que devil went down to georgia theme* Kid: ma, is it okay to flirt SJW Ma: nonsense you should never flirt or be flirted with! Kid: why is that ma? SJW Ma: because flirting is the DEVIL!
Being discomfortable is what causes us to learn. If you believe approaching someone may cause them discomfort, and you use that as an argument to not approach them, then you are denying that person an opportunity to learn. How's that for being immoral?!
Not gonna lie, there *was* a time when I myself thought that liking someone and trying to show it (i.e. flirt) was an imposition on them. In fact, I thought it was a gross objectification of the women in question. I'm over that now (been almost decade since then), but I can sort of see where the guy's coming from because of it. If he's young, it might just be lack of experience with romance and the wrong influences(mostly feminist, probably). If he's old, yeah. Probably a good idea to seek help.
That wasn't me, was it? I've always said that just because you want to do something doesn't mean you should, but I don't think I'd ever phrase it with verbose garbage. This little mantra comes from years of experience growing up in a poor neighborhood. The ghetto is full of dumbasses who constantly dig their holes deeper because of poor impulse control and a lack of forethought. I can't count how many people have lost their jobs, their spouses, or their houses because they blew all their cash on blow. I have at least 3 cousins with a jail record because of serial petty theft. People are carted off because of domestic abuse all the time. Because it is Vegas, the amount of people who've blown their entire savings on slot machines is staggering. It is so bad that my family stopped lending people money, because all they would ever do is throw it away at a casino then beg for more. All of it could be prevented if these people had an iota of self-awareness and an ounce of shame. But no, these people are post-modern existentialists. There is no beauty in their life, and no guiding force outside of whatever they feel at the moment. The thought of "Gee, maybe I should try to keep this job and not spend all night doing meth" does not cross their minds. To even bring it up is like a personal insult against them. I always encourage introspection and self-criticism because of this. The guy who sent the leader is a cucklord, but at least he has tried to rationalize his actions. He could've just withdrawn and turned belligerent to anyone who challenges his view.
As someone in philosophy this guy cannot keep his words straight. Be succinct! Plus, it's obvious this guy should just accept that he doesn't want to approach people, which is cool. Just accept it man. He is using this word salad to justify a decision a decision that has nothing to do with ethics.
You know that scene from walking dead game where you have to shoot someone because they're infected and there is no way to save them? This could be one of those situations.
I like to point out that the reason to talking to someone is to find out if they are worth while or not. Not " oh, will this conversation have net positive or negative effect "
As a high-functioning sociopath, I have to ask: what morals? The moment you go outside the walls of a society, morals go out of the window. The only reason we have them in the first place is because evolution brought them up. All morals are, is that it enhances the survivability of the species.
I am not a sociopath myself (I do a couple though) but I can understand that point of view very well - "morality" is socially constructed and can only exist within the context of the society that creates it: go outside that society and that "moral" system is null and void.
Don't confuse morality and social rules. Rules exist to keep society intact, and often have punishments for breaking, so they are shared. Morality is subjective, it's simply your understanding of good and bad.
ceu160193 Laws of a society are based on the morals that the society as a whole agrees on. Since nobody wants to experience something harmful to themselves, the most logical thing to do is to make a law about it. Even the reason that the laws of society change is because of the change in its morals over time.
Cor Atro You realise that it's impossible to find morals suited for everyone? Our goals often are opposite to each other, like seller wanting price to be as high as possible, while buyer wants it to be as low as possible. So, one of them will do immoral thing either to themselves or to other side.
Hey RGE I've been watching your channel recently and I am loving your content. Anyways in some of your videos you talk about how well your do money wise and I would really like to know, as a highschool student who has no idea what to do in the future and has been told again and again by teachers that I should "follow my dreams and the money will come", what kind job field your in so that I can look into it and see what I can do to possibly prepare for it. Love your channel keep up the good work.
This seems like the sort of person with nothing better to do than to show up to protests and winge about 'privilege', which would just be an outlet for their own miserable life.
Wait wait. Are you sure it wasn't a sarcasm? At least the first half makes so much sense if you wrap it in . Disclaimer: I've no idea what Kotaku is. I'll have to DuckDuckGo it.
Outside of a professional setting, life gets way easier when you don't care what other people think of you. Social media being a major exception that you should avoid for your own sanity. There is always something positive to gain from what this guy is scared of doing. The little man can *LEARN FROM IT!* No one is born knowing or taught how to talk to new people. There is literally nothing to lose. Even if they act bitchy, scream and cry rape from you simply introducing yourself like what I assume is in their little nightmare scenario, then you at least learn to avoid them.
To be fair you really need a high IQ to understand faux-intellectuals....
I haven't watched enough Rick and Morty to have the necessary IQ for that.
I'm afraid I'm not smart enough to identify pregnant trout.
Not really most of it is just Word play honestly, you could say the exact same thing without all of the BS in the middle to make you sound more intelligent than you actually are.
And Rick and Morty.
TheAutistWhisperer maybe that is why humans arent that inteligent, the humans who were, didnt reproduce and didnt pass their genes. Evolution in action.
"Sexually relevent distress?" Man, the feminists have really destroyed this poor guy.
I'd disagree but yeah... this is pretty much Feminist thinking that the fact that finding a woman attractive ALONE means you are victimizing her.
It's horrible really, they've done damage to society that will take years to repair.
is that like a "sexual emergency"?
Which is tragic because it means my chances of finding a relationship are dangerously low :(
I suspect that's where he picked up the language, but it's probable he'd find any ideology that supports and rationalizes his fear of social interaction. You could make environmental or religious arguments and come to the same conclusion.
I'd guess he's depressed and the reason he's using "moral" and "ethical" so much is because the it's the only thing he has to make himself feel better about some crippling social anxiety. It's like the suicidal person rationalizing that they won't be a burden to others anymore.
This kind of mindset (without "morality" rationalization, but with something similar) is pretty widespread.
That's why some men find MGTOW stuff so enlightening: "Woah, I don't have to define my worth by my usefulness to society and can just live for my own sake?!"
And that's why "I'm burden to everyone" is probably the most often heard words by male suicide counselors.
As a moral Nihilist I avoid all these questions entirely - ethics are socially constructed and change with the rise and fall of social orders: I give them little heed and pursue my interests instead.
Yes - and it's the formation of a strong will that society seeks to repress: those who create and abide by their own ethical codes of conduct are hard to manipulate into serving the "greater good" as defined by those in power within a given social order.
Finding people attractive is morally questionable? Then my girlfriend and I are super amoral
well, i am one of the people who don't like interacting with others. i don't try to justify it as "standing on the moral highground because i don't want to bother others", i just don't like human interaction. if i were to try and get me a girlfriend, i would have to make changes to how i live and i don't like it so i refrain. i don't refrain to not cause her distress nor because i feel like it would be bad for her, i do it because i consider the whole process too much of a pain to bother with it.
jpteknoman at least you’re honest about the reason instead of like this guy.
Ahahah, goodness. That has to be one of the sadder things I've had read to me. Shame I have an allergy to ethanol...so I'll stick to extra-strength coffee and take shots 'till I get heartburn.
He's a pretty mild case. I don't want to look up and spread the link, but there was a guy who asked his doctor to chemically castrate him because being Schroedinger's rapist was stressing him out so much.
Everything has to be a moral or ethical issue now. What happened to COMMON SENSE?
Yeah, common sense or any form of proper etiquette.
Well... Common sense isn't the opposite of morality or ethics... but goodness are there sure some common sense fails.
it's not common and it makes no sense.
SoloWolf 100 people like this guy downplay the value of common sense since they don’t have any.
+Ryarios
You don't need common sense if you have logic.
This argument could easily be applied to ANY CHANGE in life whatsoever.
If I go out for groceries, I may delay the guy in the car behind me causing him to get a red light that would have been green and making him 1 minute later to an appointment. However, if I don't go, they may get into a car accident by not stopping at that light.
If I buy this apple and it's ripe it increases the chance someone else will have to take an unripe one from the pile. However, I may be saving them from one that's been randomly poisoned.
If I wear a red shirt, it might distress someone that's color blind who I happen to pass on the street. However, I might distract a random raging bull and save people.
That's why the argument ultimately holds no water. The fact that you may cause someone or yourself mild and momentary discomfort in the act of saying, "Good Morning" is simply not valid because simply because living at that of an extreme is no way one can function long term. It's also placing FAR to much importance on how most people would view the encounter with you. Simply put, 99 times out of 100, your at best the odd person they tell friends a mildly funny/weird story about. You're not that important.
Well women say if he isn't man enough, they don't want anything to do with them. At the same time women say they hate being hit on all the time or bothered. So when women have memes trying to "educate" men that they shouldn't hit on women, but whine when we don't. So I say give up and go MGTOW.
Fuck You Yeah, great idea genius...until you get caught & sent to jail - then _you_ end up the plaything for "Mr. Big"...
Man just think 10-20 years from now we will have advanced sex bots and be laughing at all this junk going on. Woman will still be crying,but we will not care.
It probably took him 8+ hours to write all of that.
Or he's in college. When I was in college I could crank out shit like this in between classes cause I got used to bullshitting.
Raging Golden Eagle Remember, he's a faux-intellectual, not a real one like you.
Raging Golden Eagle Far smarter than liberals, SJW's, and feminazis
To be fair, that's a very low bar though :P
This guy is probably trolling - turning feminists arguments about how unwanted advances ("street harassment") can be so harmful to women against them. If so he's doing a good job ha. I also hate it when Dr. Nerdlove says "my dude".
That's a huge possibility right there
This is a pretty clear case of obsessive-compulsive personality disorder (note: OCPD is different from regular OCD). He needs psychiatric treatment from an MD, regular therapists are a bunch of quacks who aren't going to help him with his issues.
You might laugh, but this was my autistic way of thinking back at the day. Why should i approach people and maybe it would do more harm than good just talking to someone. Almost in fear that people would label me creep or end up using me as doormat. It's weird rationalization that generates over time when you are stuck in social anxiety limbo, that instead of just approaching anyone you start to overthink about it. It really is nothing more but a low confidence thing; lacking a daddy and being raised by feminist mommy tends to do that, just sayin.
Its funny how people try analyze extreme cases where reality analyzing wont give a shit and makes more confusing
Can confirm, purely protoautistic sperging from this guy. More extreme than I have ever fallen into, but exactly the same line of "thinking" that plagued me back in the day and still weighs me down.
Question is why you should approach people. For myself I have few reasons: to get information, to get their assistance, to answer their request for help/information if want to. However, unlike that guy, I don't care much about feelings of others, just like they usually don't care about mine. Unless, of course, there are some benefits from it - then I have to care or at least pretend to care.
Real intellectuals are scarier and use more sophistry.
Making conversation with someone is neither force nor fraud and therefore has no moral implications in and of itself whatsoever.
This question absolutely defines the term "Overthinking things".
My own fav part of the response is when he calls the guy out for denying female agency, just like all feminsts (male and female) absolutely LOVE to do.
I agree with the columnist here. He's just making excuses for why he won't do something, instead of just saying he doesn't want to do it.
No, this man has peak gynocentrism. He's a bit fuzzy with terminology, but he actually believes what he says.
He measures his self worth entirely by how women like him (so he wants to talk to them to get that validation)
But women disliking him even a little is worst thing that could happen.
He certainly needs professional help, but the way author put it is a bit dangerous.
- Hey doc, I think I'm evil for wanting to talk to girls, so I don't talk to them, is it alright?
- No, it's evil to not talk to them too, also you're lying about thinking you're evil, making you evil.
He might be fucked beyond repair now.
There is another possibility. That he's a creep who's just fishing for pity.
Never forget boys and girls, sociopaths LOVE pity. It's another way to control you.
Society exists to serve the people composing it. The moment people start to serve it more than they benefit from it is usually the momment it starts to disolve.
Sounds like someone who has low self-esteem and tends to over-analyze situations. The wordy question may either be a defense mechanism or they forgot it would be better to be succinct rather than let their entire thought process spill over into the question.
I think this guy's problem can be described as "kindergarten teacher's complex" "if I am good and sweet, peopole will like me" bad news for him there... If you are good and sweet, peopole will at best ignore you and at worst use you as a doormat. No matter their gender.
Bart B. Sad but true...
Sounds like poorly justified crippling levels of Social Anxiety. The condition itself SHOULD NOT BE MADE FUN OF ...but his rationalization was a good mile and half up its own ass
Especially as most normal people would simply respond "thanks, but I am not interested" with a smile, which means he improved their emotional state by a small margin.
I dont think i need to rationalize to eat a slice of pie.
= )
You do according to some of these faux-intellectuals!
RGE, sadly I've met people in this article. In my estimation, although I'm not a head Dr. at least not IRL . . . just on the net, the one I'm thinking of was far too gone. I don't know how any therapist would fix them. If someone has the ear of Jordan Peterson, perhaps send this his way.
Also, I have no knowledge of Kotaku, other than their role in Gamergate, but everyone I know imply that Kotaku is a cross between AIDS, ebola, and your run of the mill cancer.
That's Kotaku in a nutshell.
+TheDamageDealingMeatShield That's not a bad idea. It would be very interesting to hear his take on it.
I'd like to see Honey Badger Brigade's opinion on it too.
I don't see my self as a drain on society, society is a drain on me.
I think this guy is mixing his asperger's with swallowing the red pill....
This is just wow, just ask and if the person says no go about your way..
Being truly intellectual, is knowing when not to over think it.
... That hurt me. The questioner made me think: "oh.. that is practically me".
Thank you.
Honestly sounds like this dude is terrified of rejection and just lying to himself.
I can understand the whole "shy about approaching people" part, I mean, I can relate being the timid little fuck that I am, but that's no excuse to not try and make any friends. I'm at least trying to work on my social retardation... and trust issues.
Yeah this guy is just making up excuses for why he won't do it. Instead of just saying he doesn't want to.
Mr. Bah-Ha.... I mean Sekke!
I'm 39 and I've been like this guy for as long as I can remember. I know it's pathetic, but it's true. I've been taking this line of thinking to it's extreme for as long as I can remember as well. Good friends try to help, but it's like firmware. I think I've been needing a flash. Been thinking about mushroom therapy.
The problem with seeking help is; no one wants to give it and thurs that do easy to charge you an arm and a leg.
unrelated to the video but im really glad i found out about MGTOW so early, thank you for saving me loads of trouble down the line.
I agree with the guy. Never approach anyone. People suck. 2D > 3D.
Raging golden eagles deserves more subscribers
Thinking? As you say it is not. People like that might benefit from a slap with a wet fish.
Hmm... Early enough to watch the ads and enjoy the monetization. Hehehehe ;D
Let see what is the content...
This one has been pre-emptively approved!
The bread is in the middle of the road.
I am the type of intellectual who just chooses to say what I enjoy and if other people don't like it, they don't have to listen to me.
Sometimes I talk too much about anime, I sometimes talk too much about Japanese Games.
Sometimes I talk too much about Australian Football.
Sometimes I talk too much about Manga and my fav western comics that involve Jungle Girls.
Sure I get allot of strange looks, but it is better than to stay quiet about everything.
And there are times when I just stay quiet like when I am on a train.
So there are situations when I am quiet and I keep to myself but when it comes to meeting a girl I like, I just go all out with my interests and see what sticks with them.
That's the only way to be sure. If they are annoyed at your interests from the start, you know you don't have much of a future with that person anyway.
I just go to a "massage" parlor and get my urges sated there for a price I negotiate - so much easier and with more guarantees than dating.
This person is self-selecting out of the gene pool, and that's a good thing!
There's a magic potion that has all the answers to this guy's important questions.
It's called bleach.
That is where you and I have to disagree.
On the only going to Kotaku when I am linked thing, I never go there and I usually get pissy with people giving them too much traffic.
Thanks for reminding me why I'm in therapy about this, rather than continuing to feed into my pathological self-loathing lined with glorification. It's mostly just a confidence issue though, I wouldn't read too much "intellectual intent" into this. It does amaze me that he went as far as writing it out like this, though. Hopefully the authors answer rattles him a bit to think about pulling the breaks on that mental gravy train.
This guy needs help. Sort of...Mack-truck-to-the-face-at-80mph help. XD
Now I have an almost non exsistant self esteem..... but this is self hate more than anything.
They always existed, but they only talked to their pigs in the past.
While somewhat off topic, I'm reminded of an article I read analyzing Spider-Man's "responsibility". It came down to how Spider-Man assumes he's so important that any attempt to balance his life would cause catastrophe. This leads him to be extremely irresponsible to the people in his personal life, especially to the aged aunt who raised him and would be less stressed if Peter were with her during her numerous hospital stays.
"Stop it, get some help."
At first I would tell this guy just to get some manners and behave in a civilized fashion. But then I notice he's getting on the train to crazy town, so I walk away instead.
i really want to go and listen to this video again, but my god Cthulhu prohibits me from doing stuff that will endanger me
Cthulhu doesn't care about you or any other human - he prohibits you from nothing as you are merely an insect in his sight? Begone from me heretic! Fhtagn is the lord!
Oh..the socially awkward? the loner..the urban hermit has always existed..but the internet is like an immersive training environment for the tendency.. Like what used to average a level 8 with a rusty knife is now running about a Level 40 with some epic gear.
Whoa... 8 minutes? I must have been good this year!
Lets see, that was about five times he uttered a "moral" word.
Each utterance=10 push ups.
Exercise for the day. Get the girls with good arms.
>dr manginalove handling things ok
lel k
Awesome video although I wish it was longer.
I've always been a shy and socially awkward person. There it is, the truth, without dressing it up in faux intellectualism or pretending to have a morally superior position.
Okay, this man is literally thinking the same shit i thought as a teenager and i have no longer have any illusion at this point that these people have lived outside themselves so long they've must have only discovered introspection really fucking recently
Why do we need to reinvent the phrase, "I just don't like dealing with people."
"Me an intelectual i never pick a side nothing ever really would change if i commited suicide"
6:04 omg I laughed so hard! The entire readership of kotaku! haha! (I guess this whole thing starts to make sense when you consider that THAT is the target audience huh?)
This guy reminds me of that episode of South Park where everyone in California is huffing their farts.
It's like what the wise man critikal said, "these people always existed the internet just makes them easier to find"
I wonder if I can use this kind of arguement to avoid harassment for not dating the butter golems at work? "I barely consider it ethical for me to even exist, and now here you are demanding that I impose on you by accepting to date you? Fie, I say, fie!" And then I dance away and leave her completely baffled while I internally laugh my ass off. Also, I was wondering if you could tell me where you get your...err...topless lamia cage dancers. I want one for my home because, if anything, it's one helluva conversation piece. "She works for salmon. Yeah, I think I accidentally got a naga girl as opposed to a lamia girl. I couldn't bring myself to send her back because they looked the same at the time of ordering and I didn't want to come off as racist or something."
Masaka?
My ethics are to the right of Stalin, my moral compass is to the north of Hitler, and my logical thoughts frequently axe murder my emotions. Ergo, I am a bad person.
"Kotaku-ueahueh" lol.
I hate to say it but some of these people today are just cupcakes I don't get it. These ppl, my generation have totally lost their freaking minds, and they are not as morally great as they all think they are .
I took you up on your drinking game. Went into comatose mode for 12 hrs... thx RGE
This guy is going to die alone if he does not change his views on relationships. I feel sad for him cuz he is making himself think this way. He does not have to think that way.
You have to be pretty smart to make excuses for everything you do.
RGE, love the dissection of the living Ken Doll Man pea brain. Have a happy new year.
I seek out other people for my own personal benefits and well being. I honestly hate socializing for too long myself, but I know at some level, it's beneficial for me to socialize for at least a few days a week, so I go out seeking like-minded people just to hang out with. I've learned to do this from MGTOW and the 48 Laws Of Power. Not to mention, once you end up living the MGTOW lifestyle, you automatically end up showing an aura of confidence most cucked men never show, because you've learned to basically stop giving two fucks what other people think about you. Because of this, at least for me, I end up seeming extremely confident when I'm around other people; and as a result, more people end up trusting and liking me more, which means more opportunities, career or hobby wise, open up for me.
Kinda sounds like me when I was in my 20s.
Bah-Ha
I'm not much of a people person. I enjoy my video games more than being with people.. Why? Its just who i am. My Autism might play a part in it, but i've always been this way.
Honestly this is the kind of person best ignored. Do not look at the faux-intellectual, don't feed the faux-intellectual. Let this pitiful creature stew in its irrelevance.
Being attracted to someone doesn't make it evil, like what the fuck mate
Ok... Emotions are not moral or immoral, they are Amoral. It is what you do with them, but even acting upon them isn't necessarily bad. Anger can lead you to harming someone, but it can also inspire you to deal with the bigger problem. Finding someone attractive isn't "good" or "bad" and asking them out doesn't enter morality just because they might be "mildly annoyed"
The risks *FAR* outweigh any of the benefits... Especially with this #metoo going on...
Moral calculus? Someone paid 100k for a piece of paper that sez they's edumucated.
I don't think I've ever felt so much cringe...I think we have found the ultimate beta. I'm starting to wonder too if these people always existed or if they are a creation of the times we live in, because I just can't remember stupidity of this magnitude being such a regular occurrence for the majority of my life. It has to be something new.....I hope.
Actually, I'm going to amend this a bit due to a comment I saw. They suggested that this was done to him by the feminist agenda....and I realize that's a possibility. He could have been raised by a single mother and then dumped into the school system as it is now. He could've been taught to be like this....If so that's very sad. His entire life has been damaged if that's the case, all to push feminism, which has done nothing more than make both men AND women miserable.
really this is a well thought out feminist result on the first step in relationships. given how feminists want men to do everything to keep from hurting any woman's feelings the moral argument of approaching women that you like is in fact an issue. if you approach them you might make them feel uncomfortable, if you don't they never know what they are missing and thus don't feel bad. obviously the feminists should want men to never approach them, and of course that means that women need to approach men instead, though that could result in women having to go outside their comfort zone so that shouldn't be expected either. talk about a catch 22.
That has to be in the dictionary. Keyword: "overthink".
Let's look at the bright side of this situation. All these people have little to no chance of procreating, so they won't be around for much longer. It's a dead end and will slowly fix itself.
On the other hand, have you heard about the WHO organization moving to classify video game addiction as a "gaming "disorder in 2018?
Great, more teaching about how to be "normal person". If I want to waste all my life playing video games, it's my own choice and it's my own life to waste. I am not telling you how to treat Ebola, AIDS and other diseases, and you don't tell me what to do with my life.
*que devil went down to georgia theme*
Kid: ma, is it okay to flirt
SJW Ma: nonsense you should never flirt or be flirted with!
Kid: why is that ma?
SJW Ma: because flirting is the DEVIL!
Being discomfortable is what causes us to learn. If you believe approaching someone may cause them discomfort, and you use that as an argument to not approach them, then you are denying that person an opportunity to learn. How's that for being immoral?!
Not gonna lie, there *was* a time when I myself thought that liking someone and trying to show it (i.e. flirt) was an imposition on them. In fact, I thought it was a gross objectification of the women in question. I'm over that now (been almost decade since then), but I can sort of see where the guy's coming from because of it.
If he's young, it might just be lack of experience with romance and the wrong influences(mostly feminist, probably). If he's old, yeah. Probably a good idea to seek help.
That wasn't me, was it? I've always said that just because you want to do something doesn't mean you should, but I don't think I'd ever phrase it with verbose garbage.
This little mantra comes from years of experience growing up in a poor neighborhood. The ghetto is full of dumbasses who constantly dig their holes deeper because of poor impulse control and a lack of forethought. I can't count how many people have lost their jobs, their spouses, or their houses because they blew all their cash on blow. I have at least 3 cousins with a jail record because of serial petty theft. People are carted off because of domestic abuse all the time. Because it is Vegas, the amount of people who've blown their entire savings on slot machines is staggering. It is so bad that my family stopped lending people money, because all they would ever do is throw it away at a casino then beg for more.
All of it could be prevented if these people had an iota of self-awareness and an ounce of shame. But no, these people are post-modern existentialists. There is no beauty in their life, and no guiding force outside of whatever they feel at the moment. The thought of "Gee, maybe I should try to keep this job and not spend all night doing meth" does not cross their minds. To even bring it up is like a personal insult against them.
I always encourage introspection and self-criticism because of this. The guy who sent the leader is a cucklord, but at least he has tried to rationalize his actions. He could've just withdrawn and turned belligerent to anyone who challenges his view.
As someone in philosophy this guy cannot keep his words straight. Be succinct! Plus, it's obvious this guy should just accept that he doesn't want to approach people, which is cool. Just accept it man. He is using this word salad to justify a decision a decision that has nothing to do with ethics.
scrubbyscum999 _ As someone in the bathroom, I don't give a shit what you do! ;P
Let's just be happy that his chances of breeding and creating new super cucks is next to 0.
You know that scene from walking dead game where you have to shoot someone because they're infected and there is no way to save them?
This could be one of those situations.
I like to point out that the reason to talking to someone is to find out if they are worth while or not. Not " oh, will this conversation have net positive or negative effect "
So... when does guy get his Darwin award?
Academics plez respond.
As a high-functioning sociopath, I have to ask: what morals?
The moment you go outside the walls of a society, morals go out of the window. The only reason we have them in the first place is because evolution brought them up. All morals are, is that it enhances the survivability of the species.
I am not a sociopath myself (I do a couple though) but I can understand that point of view very well - "morality" is socially constructed and can only exist within the context of the society that creates it: go outside that society and that "moral" system is null and void.
Frank Castle
Exactly. Morality is the real social construct but it's not necessarily a bad thing as some people make the label out to be.
Don't confuse morality and social rules. Rules exist to keep society intact, and often have punishments for breaking, so they are shared. Morality is subjective, it's simply your understanding of good and bad.
ceu160193
Laws of a society are based on the morals that the society as a whole agrees on. Since nobody wants to experience something harmful to themselves, the most logical thing to do is to make a law about it. Even the reason that the laws of society change is because of the change in its morals over time.
Cor Atro You realise that it's impossible to find morals suited for everyone? Our goals often are opposite to each other, like seller wanting price to be as high as possible, while buyer wants it to be as low as possible. So, one of them will do immoral thing either to themselves or to other side.
Hey RGE I've been watching your channel recently and I am loving your content. Anyways in some of your videos you talk about how well your do money wise and I would really like to know, as a highschool student who has no idea what to do in the future and has been told again and again by teachers that I should "follow my dreams and the money will come", what kind job field your in so that I can look into it and see what I can do to possibly prepare for it.
Love your channel keep up the good work.
Raging Golden Eagle
Thanks I'm going to look into it
This seems like the sort of person with nothing better to do than to show up to protests and winge about 'privilege', which would just be an outlet for their own miserable life.
Wait wait. Are you sure it wasn't a sarcasm? At least the first half makes so much sense if you wrap it in .
Disclaimer: I've no idea what Kotaku is. I'll have to DuckDuckGo it.
Kotaku is the CNN of game "news" sites.
Ever watched RazorBladeKandy's video 'Nihilism and Morality' buddy?
Outside of a professional setting, life gets way easier when you don't care what other people think of you. Social media being a major exception that you should avoid for your own sanity.
There is always something positive to gain from what this guy is scared of doing. The little man can *LEARN FROM IT!* No one is born knowing or taught how to talk to new people. There is literally nothing to lose. Even if they act bitchy, scream and cry rape from you simply introducing yourself like what I assume is in their little nightmare scenario, then you at least learn to avoid them.
This person is delusional...