Why did the School System Fail?
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@@lightningbolt4419why?
You should have put "American School Systems" people from other countries will think its theirs, but what ever gets clicks right ? 🤣
@@WeylandLabs its pretty much a western thing, besides even if u aren't American aren't u interested in what's going on there.
You're so young to know so much it blows my mind. Keep going!
Who needs sleep, when I can further overstimulate my brain with the problems of our time…
My thoughts exactly it's not like I have school or work tomorrow
thanks for saying my thoughts
Bro you boutta make me put this phone back down fr (it’s an hour past my bedtime)
Lmao same here same vibe
Hey, are you still awake? The consumer economy has made us complacent and lazy and ill-equipped to handle the long term ramifications of large numbers of migrants from low-trust societies.
Public school taught me to read and do basic math; Everything else I know is the result of self-education.
Same 😊
Truth
They steal 13 years of our lives when it only takes 3 or 4 to teach language and math.
Shoot, I’m saddened, went from school in Iraq to US. In US went from public to private. My Assyrian church paid for it before the school covered it through a scholarship. I was bullied like crazy in US public school. Never when I was a Christian in a majority Muslim school in Iraq. There we have 8 grades, I doubt most of the public school bullies could have made it in Iraq. For one, its based on Mastery, you can’t pass unless you’ve mastered the subject. So you’ll see certain students with level 6 science for example who are in level 8 maths. But you have to achieve all before Uni or to be considered “educated” or highschool diploma equivalent in US. No Ds and atill going next grade in whole subject. Usually students that work with their parents or farm boys took longer but usually graduated our highschool by 8th grade by 16. All those years would cover the 12 years of US education if not more. One thing I noticed a huge difference in US is its math, the math in US is all numbers no application. For example the quadratic equation, the swiss army knife of equations that we are taught in grade 6 math in Iraq. We taught its uses from finance to engineering in Iraq. In US you’re just taught the equation, thats it. Another is history, in US we are taught the crusades were a black eye on Christianity. Literally in my Muslim majority country, we are taught that the Crusades were a defense against the Islamic caliphate and them taking over europe and the holy land of the jews. We are also taught the socratic method from grade 4. And eventually every subject requires catechisms where you use the Socratic method to ask and answer questions in all subjects. None of that in US. One thing I will say, I learned English very well in the reading class, and the language is far better. I probably am better at grammar(when I write or try) in English than Arabic. But 12 years for students to still know nothing, none of the amendments, little of US presidents, near zero math outside basic arithmetic, most still bad at reading, zero cultural understanding of other countries. Its insane to me. I went to school in US, i have peers that went through 8 years of university and would be critically destroyed by a 14 year old Iraqi student who could only dream of going to US and become a doctor but only has the opportunity as a farmer or shop clerk for the family business.
@@sukaenacornelius9285 you are so right. It is by design. Our schools are a joke. I wish I could copy and paste your comment to keep. So much wisdom and experience in one paragraph. Thank you!
I went to school in the late 60s. My mother discovered that I couldn't read. I was in the fifth grade. She frog marched me up to school to confront my teachers and demanded to know what they were going to do about it. "Nothing" was the reply. They didn't teach reading to kids my age. My mother and I did not often see eye to eye but that woman sat me down for an hour everyday after school and made me read out loud. It was a forced march but it saved me from a life of ignorance and under employment.
Kudos to your mom. And to you for putting up with something that might not have been fun, but I think even you at the time realized was necessary. I wonder if you got any pride out of learning to read?
Same. Went from the only kid in class who couldn't read (7), to reading lord of the rings (10). Thanks Mum!
@@KingMinos316 My mom on the other hand just loved to read, and was reading to me at 4 and teaching me simple phonics. When I got to kindergarten I could already read simple sentences and most cartoons in the paper. Edited to add: This shows the importance of parents as do both of your stories. In my case it was just my mom loving to read and trying to share that love because one of my 'big things' back then was the funny cartoons in the newspaper. So she'd read them to me and occasional tell me how she figured out a word. In your guys case your moms probably thought the school was doing its job, but turned into tigresses when necessary because they loved you both.
God bless you and your mother. She loved you a lot to take that time to ensure you didn’t have that “handicap”. My grandfather was illiterate, and I never new how debilitating and humiliating it is when you need someone to read something for you.
You can understand the language, you just cant read it.
If I learned anything from this video, it’s that we can all be teachers. We all know something, and all of us know little to nothing about must stuff.
Our uniqueness is what will be truly a defense against anything.
@@bendover5001 My mom was not very loving but she was practical. She knew a son that couldn't read was one that would never be successful at work or anything else. She had plans for me that included me, moving out of the house, getting married and having grand kids. I loved my mom but I believe that there was a practical consideration in her efforts. I am eternally grateful to her for her efforts.
In my last year of high school (2016) one moment will stick with me forever and taught me just how screwed up the Canadian education system is. For English class we were given an assignment where we had to read a poem and then answer a few questions to test our reading and comprehension (ie. what are the literary devices used, what is the poem structure, what are the themes). Come the day where we got our marked papers back my teacher had stopped me to explain that she had given me a higher mark than what the grading rubric would have. Turns out that my explanation of the poem's themes was not the answer that the board of education wanted. This was odd to the both of us because for as long as I can remember themes aren't something you can standardize. Every one walks away from art with a different interpretation of the themes. Some explanations are more valid than others but the point remains. However, because my interpretation was not the "right" one I would have failed the assignment had my English teacher not gave a shit and just graded me based on the mandated paper approved by the higher-ups.
It all goes to show that schools are no longer education centers, they're indoctrination centers. You are no longer expected to understand the material. You are just to parrot what you are told and never question the establishment.
It's been this way for at least 40 years probably more
It's funny to read this. When I tell my students that there is no "correct" interpretation of fictional texts, they become frustrated and just wants me to give them the "right" answer so they don't need to think for themselves.
@@PrincessHege 95% or more of humans want to be sheep, probably closer to 99%
Schools have always been indoctrination. Education and Indoctrination are synonymous
Might not even be out of malice. It's just easier to say this one answer is right than have to figure out every individual answer. Both teachers and whoever makes the curriculum are just doing a job. Could just be laziness.
The downfall of the public school system was apparent, even in the 1970s. My mother graduated from what was considered one of the better Seattle schools of her time in the 1970s and found herself completely unequipped for the adult world. Her mother never taught her anything like budgeting, civics, cooking, home ec, basic automobile care and basic carpentry and tool use. For Gen X-ers like my mom, many of them went to schools that offered none of these or barely covered these subjects, and their parents never bothered teaching them because they had been taught those things in school and assumed it would be the same.
She promised herself never to put her kids through school, and so, before it was legal to do so, she homeschooled her kids, all seven of them. By the time I was born, homeschooling was recently legalized, but many local jurisdictions were unaware of the change in law, so truancy harassment was something we had to occasionally deal with. But, unlike my public schooled relatives, we went through childhood without ever being stabbed, prostituted, arrested and are not on welfare. My mom's choice to homeschool us redeemed our family line from being inner city trash, and though academics are important, we can all do math, and love to read and write, the most important thing in our day to day life was understanding how to balance the budget, civics and taxes, and how to cook, clean, and care for oneself.
Finally, actually competent citizens the education system WISHED to have.
Shoutout the 206 i bet she went to rainier beach🤣
There was a survey I read back in the late 1990s that said the average 4th grader in a one room schoolhouse in the 1800s midwest could read on the level of what today would be 1st year of college. No exaggeration.
@@juniorjames7076what are you saying? I can't understand your point.
@AlexanderTheGreatMan people who were 4th graders back in the 1700s were as smart as modern college students.
I have an anecdote about our broken education system.
Two years ago I graduated with a bachelors in history, and I wanted to be a high school history teacher. I got into a masters program that included teacher training, and assigned me to a local high school to be a student teacher.
The master's program was of course ideological propaganda, but that's for another time.
I ended up being assigned to an 11th grade US history class for one semester. My mentor teacher was a former prison guard who took me on because he wanted me to do everything, which I was honestly fine with. I liked being able to control the curriculum.
I noticed that he didn't have any essay assignments planned, which I thought was odd, since reading and summarizing are pretty basic skills that have applications beyond history. So during our WWII unit, I decided to assign one.
After two days of telling the story of WWII, I had the students select a country to write an essay on. They could pick any country that significantly participated in the war, and had to summarize that country's war experience in a page in a half, double spaced. Easy. When I was in highschool, I could have done this in twenty minutes.
I soon learned why my mentor teacher had not planned any essays. Most of my students simply could not do it. Most of them thought research was googling something than paraphrasing the example text that appears under the search results. Most of them did not even click on an article without me pestering them. Writing quality was generally atrocious. One student thought double spacing meant pushing enter twice after each line of text.
I gave them a week to complete it, and gave every one of my 120ish students some tutoring. When the time came to turn them in, only about a fourth of them submitted anything. Of that number, about half were nearly unreadable, way too short, or contained significant plagiarism. In one hilarious example, the student had pasted in an entire article next to her own fourth grade level writing, without even making sure the stolen material was the same color and font as the rest of the paper.
The best papers were from the two exchange students, one from France and the other Kazakhstan. About 5 of the American students did really well.
My mentor teacher realized there would be trouble, since nobody was turning in the assignment. He made the executive decision to cut its value down to 20 points, the same amount as the other throwaway assignments we were required to give out twice a week. When the students realized its low value, they stopped worrying about it, and we got maybe five more submissions.
A few months later, two weeks before finals, my mentor teacher called me over to his computer. On the screen were three colored bars representing our student's grades. the first was green, representing As and Bs. The second was yellow and a bit longer, representing Cs and Ds. The third, which was longest, was red and represented Fs. This was the same year covid ended, so our students were still in the remote learning mode of not turning anything in. My mentor teacher said our mission now was to get half of the yellows to green and most of the reds to yellow. If not, we'd be investigated by the admin and have to deal with a legion of angry students and parents. Every level of the system, from the teachers to the administration to the parents to the students themselves, were incentivized to lower the standards and push everyone through the system, year after year, regardless of competency. The end result was illiterate students arriving in my class, who I was completely unable to help, and could do little for other than put my own seal of approval on their embarrassing performances and send them on to 12th grade and college beyond.
My lessons on the internet age and rise of mental health problems were scrapped, and the rest of the semester would be homework makeup days. The students mostly copied late assignments, some which were due three months ago, from students who had actually completed them. I was flooded with late work that was mostly cheated, and from which the students likely learned next to nothing. We also spent a long time preparing for the final, for which my mentor teacher provided a study guide with the exact multiple choice questions that would appear on the test. No critical thinking required whatsoever. Even after all this, the red bar was still too long, so for the last week of school, my mentor teacher gave participation credit for showing up and watching movies. The amount of points the students received for one class period of sleeping through "Red Tails?" 40. Twice the maximum they could have received for my essay assignment. Multiply that by five school days equaled 200 points for watching movies, enough to shorten that red bar to the necessary level.
After that I decided to quit high school and get another masters so I can teach college.
My experience is that college is worse honestly. Most of the bright students go into trades or give up and you end up with rooms full of mental retarded women.
Why not be a freelance tutor or join any of the better charter schools poping up in your area?
Uh, Have to ask this, but how does one research?
When I was a substitute teacher in the late 1990s I had 7th graders who could not properly hold a pencil, pen or chalk. They complained to their parents because I made them write on the blackboard too frequently.
Two days to discuss WW2 and a page a half summary of one major combatant. As a WW 2 reenactor I'm feeling physical pain.
I graduated highschool in 2019 and the biggest problem I encountered is that pretty much any multiple choice quiz or test is just a bad IQ test. If you are smart enough you can brute force your way from K -12 without ever learning anything.
I kind of enjoyed that. Could test through everything without doing any homework. Had a horrible GPA but still landed a scholarship because of my SAT........then dropped out of college after the first year.
He's correct... High School is just memorization of mostly meaningless material with no real learning of where, when, and why sorta speak
@@bryangillie3679nah. its how you learn to study and learn, whch is good
Facts
Honestly yeah, graduated in 2017. Multiple choice questions were pretty sad. Two of them were always certainly wrong and if you paid just a tiny bit of attention you'd know the answer from the last two remaining.
I have the complete opposite experience as you when it comes to being told you're smart. I was always told I was smart throughout my childhood, but my parents failed to teach me any practical skills, and the education system bored me immensely. So when I found myself unable to fuction and all, I began thinking myself stupid. I now give up on anything if I am not immediately successful at it, and I find it difficult to delevope any skills, yet I also cannot stand the education system.
This is extremely common. I forget the exact quote but its something like this: "A prodigy when young, a genius in the teens, ordinary as an adult."
This is the reason to not praise your kids for being smart, but to instead praise them for being hard workers.
I also grew up pretty much immediately understanding everything until about 10th grade with no effort. Then, when I didnt immediately understand things, I kind of just shut down. I didnt even really know how to learn.
Textbook fixed mindset you have there friend. Turns out people aren't really doing you a favor when they simply label you as "smart". Much like you're doing yourself a disservice by simply labeling yourself as "stupid". Anyway look into the growth mindset a bit, and you might learn why you're stuck. Carol Dweck wrote an awesome book about it.
Think about how much time you spend working at a job you don't like. Education is like that. Just put the hours in, treat it like a job. The difference is, that those hours benefit you rather than the business owner. No one else can do it for you, no one else is going to give a damn. Life is mechanical and will happily allow you to end up on the street. Save your a55, its worth it.
stop coping
@@darthbanana7 I'm not lmao, in spite of the shitty hand I was dealt, I am still marching forward and doing my best to make my mark on the world.
Classes have been being "dumbed-down" since at least the 1970s. My mother was a Spanish teacher from 1965 to 2000, and by the end of her career, the former first-year book took a full two years for modern students to go through.
lets be honest, everything has been on a downwards trend since the 70s from health and education to family cohesion and inflation
Yep. When I was in elementary the average college graduate and the spoken vocabulary of 80-100 thousand depending on speciality. Today English majors have an average vocabulary of 60.
This is happening all over the western world, as a European it’s crazy to see my dad who had 3-4 years of german language speak and understand most things when we go on holiday there. Keep in mind that German is his 6th language and it’s laughable if I compare it to what I had in school.
I think people were just more competent 30 years ago.
When I started my engineering school my teacher said, back in the day everyone had a motorcycle or a car they build on before enrolling in uni. Nowadays most kids start at 0.
@@Sarqnkids start with 0 because you will own nothing and will be happy
There was a survey I read back in the late 1990s that said the average 4th grader in a one room schoolhouse in the 1800s midwest could read on the level of what today would be 1st year of college. No exaggeration.
What’s shocking to me is that, when I was growing up in the 80s, there was a notion that kids’ parents should take an active interest in their child’s education and the ones whose parents were decidedly not involved were “at risk.” Now parents that show serious interest and involvement in their kids’ education are labeled as potential terrorists.
Right. Because the 1980s had a high crime rate so the parents had to participate in their kids lives to make them stay out of gangs. Now the schools want to trans the kids. If the parents get involved in their kids lives then the school has to acknowledge they spent the day teaching third graders about genderqueer pronouns instead of division. That’s not in the schools best interest
100 years ago, the idea that you would just hand your kids over to be educated by strangers and inducted into either a worldview you are at best hazy about or actively disagree with would have seemed nuts.
@@zwatwashdcyeah cuz people were extremely close minded back then (not their fault) but this does tell that parents should be educating themselves as well on these topics before throwing it to the wind. Then they would realize how the school system is set up for kids to almost “fail” in life from certain standpoints
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@@sabian5290 it’s a liberal progressive lie that people should be open minded and tolerant. The idea of tolerance has been completely transformed. Now if you don’t think that a fully in tact 6.5 male competitive swimmer should compete on the women’s team, you are a bigot. People need to understand they have a right to their own opinion and the world view they choose. They only need to *tolerate* other groups. They don’t need to support them, be their allies or give them money or opportunities.
My girlfriend's father told me that he remembered a time when there were still a lot of horsemen in rural Texas, and you could tell how well a man could mentor young men and boys by how well he could lead a horse.
Hi, I went through the Bronx New York city public school system during the 1960s and early 1970s,
My favorite classes were auto shop and electric classes, I never finished HS because the NY city public school system decided to start bussing in kids in from the projects, I quit because I was stabbed for a hall pass. I had a lot of jobs over the years, but I finally got a job working in an aircraft factory, I loved building jet fighters. The company paid for my collage, I graduated with 2 BS degrees in the aeronautical sciences. I retired last year as a senior principal engineer / scientist working on a major rocket program. You are correct. I saw with my own eyes how the system changed in the 70s from what you explained to, Let's all sit down and rap about social problems.
Good work. Keep it up, and thank you.
Imagine living in a world where schooling does not make you actively hate learning, but the internet still exists and you can go down any rabbit hole you desire. Imagine a world where you're in an online game lobby, you drop a reference to some obscure Chinese philosopher, and if no one else gets it at least half of them would be curious.
That would the equivalent of that one dude who told a mother who got her sons phone that she couldn’t see his search history.
@@LuffyWantsMeat01 elaborate?
I imagining cod lobby arguing about philosophy 😂😂😂😂😂
@@gendalfgray7889
I have read forums where the original thread topic has long since changed to a better more educational topic because 2 people were arguing about it.
It's called homeschooling 😊
There’s no such thing as a “too long” whatifalthist video. You could make a 3 hour breakdown of a historical topic chosen at random and we’ll happily watch it because we know you make quality content.
This near one hour video approaches that, with all the pausing
Same. I love how much effort he put in his content. The what emotion drives x culture were my favorite
Hear hear!
It always takes me longer than the watch time to finish an althist video as I am always stopping to read text walls, or look up something, or add a book to my reading list.
Here here!
I learned this around Covid and luckily my mom let me drop out and get my GED. I now gobble up as much information as I am interested in and as I talk to other people interested in learning for fun, I find out about more cool topics I want to learn about. The school system almost destroyed that part of me. When my English teacher told me that the school system never evolved, my mom kept telling me to invest in things I was genuinely interested in, now we have other routes than just college, I have enjoyed learning so much more than I thought was possible and I’m only 19 and a half. There is so much to explore and enjoy.
Loved most of my male teachers. I learned the most from them and found what they taught more interesting as they seemed to love what they taught more than the women.
good luck on your travels! i want to get into civil engineering in order to leave a physical mark on the world. i've found the same tbh! Best wishes from the uk!
Learn a skill, like welding. Do it for 4-6 years for someone else and then start your own business. You will be making 6 figures by 25 and have 3-4 men working for you by age 30. Go get some.
I graduated high school class of 2017 and I noticed the zombifacation you talked about first hand and again when my younger brother went to the same school right after me and how much worse it got in the difference of a year. When I was in my senior year I got into a regional occupation program that saw a small group of other students shuttled off to the adult school to learn more trade orientated things for the first half of the day before returning to our high school and finishing out the day with normal classes. I took video game design that was taught by an experienced game developer and was very interesting and kept my attention fully while I was there. Another thing that made it stand out from my normal classes was that the ROC program was exclusive and as it took place at the adult school, we were treated like adults. Our teachers would speak to us like peers rather than as children which also helped us respect them more and be more receptive to the material. I didn’t end up going into that field as a job but I did learn some valuable skills such as team building, communication and leadership. I always remembered school outside of that being boring and just watching the clock but recently I took training to get my armed security guard permit and that was mostly classroom instruction very reminiscent of school but this time on a subject I was very interested in and was excited to learn about. I got a perfect score on my written test and finished first of my group and now have a desire to go and further my training there. I was blown away with the night and day difference it had when the classroom revolved around things I care about.
"Idiocracy" was released in 2005. Great movie by Mike Judge. Back then we thought it would take 500 years for the species to become that collectively dumbed down. I think we're already just about there.
"People used to read and write books, it wasn't just for nerds. We used to make movies where you cared about whose ass it was and why it was farting. We even went to the moon."
Don't know whether it's funny or sad that less than 20 years ago, that movie was considered satire. Now it's on the verge of basically being a documentary.
We are probably past Idiocracy by this point. President Camacho, while not exactly George Washington, at least had good sense to appoint the most competent man to do the job. Now think about the current administrations in the US, Canada, UK, or almost any other Western country...
@@peterj9351 Camacho was the best president of his time...and probably pretty high up there in our time, too
I live in Africa. Basically idiocracy IRL.
Here you do see bridges, pavements and roads which just stop halfway.
No traffic lights, no public bins, no post boxes.
Got to know a good chunk of the local government.
They take great pride in aping western procedures and language, but don't actually know what any of it means, in the deeper sense.
Their priorities are Idiocacy too. The school I teach at doesn't have lights.
The nightclub next door has wall-to-wall plasma TVs.
Trust me, things might be bad, but you still have a long way to go.
Democrat run teachers unions have ruined American education and destroyed our future. Nice work Democrats!
Here's the thing, we ARE NOT at that level. Yes, we are ABSOLUTELY heading there, but it is intellectually dishonest and provides something for the idiot class to point at and say, "See, you're exaggerating. Therefore, we don't need to take you into consideration!"
If we want to stop this trend, we unfortunately need to abandon hyperbole and satire because people are too stupid to understand them
That toy soldier story is wild. So when I was a kid, I visited fort Ligonier and I got a toy soldier set for the French and Indian war ( I think it was, might have been American Revolutionary War sold incorrectly). We really used to study wars and actually understood the causes and consequences of warfare a lot better. It can be argued, I’m of this school of thought, that WWI basically broke the minds of European scholars, soldiers, politicians etc. and we’ve never fully recovered. There’s a reason WWI study was basically done in hushed tones until very recently.
Interesting insight. I have complained for decades that I graduated high school having never gotten up to WWI in any history class. It was like history had to be a "long" time ago or we couldn't talk about it. WWI was still too fresh and we were already past Vietnam. My great grandmother was still alive and so were 1 of her brothers, who fought in The Big One. I didn't even know how much I didn't know to even ask for stories about what it was like. Oh, to have a time machine to talk with them all again...
@@sarahrosen4985 Battlefield 1 led me into studying WW1 and thank goodness for it. I really think every student should learn from the seven years war to the fall of the Berlin Wall. Fundamental to America.
I went to a small, country high school and I knew about the Barbary Pirates. Even in the small schools you used to learn something. Those days are long gone.
@@keithconnell8460 We talked about the Barbary wars, WW1, and the “first red scare” but only in AP Gov and AP euro. For the average student, the existence of George Washington was a hard to grasp concept.
I knew about the Barbary Wars since 5th grade, but I read a lot comic books in my youth (early 1980s) whose writers borrowed and drew ideas from history, literature, philosophy and re-packaged them into adventure type stories. By college I got many references to ancient and early modern history (Gilgamesh, WW1, The Crusades, ancient civilizations, etc) because of the comics, graphic novels, and related literature I read. BTW- comic books have been dumbed down to unreadable crap in recent years. Everything has declined to crap.
Teachers do not chose what they teach. The managerial class does (school board via state decree), which comes from the will of the electorate. So, when people vote for better schools, we will get better schools.
People have voted for what we have today. Also, unfortunately, most voters do not currently have children in school. So they vote for policies and do not deal with the consequences of their vote.
By people you mean bleeding heart liberal white women and coloreds.
I couldn’t possibly relate to you more when you talked about being in school vs when your RUclips channel took off. I got in trouble all through school and was told I have all these problems, then went to college and got a job in the real world and it was the same thing. It felt like every time I did something brilliant I would be punished. I started to think I was crazy and something was wrong with me. Then of course my RUclips channel took off 4.5 years ago and my life is incredible. All the creativity and individuality I used to get punished for is now rewarded.
We standardized it. Tried applying the same system to everyone, top-down. Emphasized the teacher's conditions and the building's conditions over the students' performance (this being what "more funding per-child" boils down to). Made something that should have been personal as impersonal for the parents as we could manage.
Teachers unions, as all public unions are according to FDR, are a cancer on public governance and should be banned.
Tis' The Prussia Model. Ja.
It's not exactly the standardisation that is the problem, but the monopoly of one unchangeable standard. If people had a choice between institutions that graded their students on different standards, there would still be common metrics for competition (between schools and between students) but also competition between standards themselves, to determine which is the most aligned with real intelligence and potential.
this is what happens when you give the curricular monopoly to the guvmint
Nice work Democrat run teachers unions!
Bias against people in the past was widespread in my circles growing up. Even (especially?) from the "smart" kids. Anytime Id express reverence or even curiosity about older societies theyd always say something like "they didnt have computers tho" or "how can you think it was better if you weren't even there."
One guy said black and white films or even movies made pre-1980 weren't worth watching because "theyre too old." Trying to learn from history was met with platitudes like "we should look forward, not back." These nuggets of wisdom came from honors students, whod dismiss my contrary opinions because they were in advanced math and i wasnt so therefore i was stupid. It was infuriating.
We should look forward to the global favela.
That last bit about advanced math is so prevalent today. There are tons of people who think they're very intelligent because they got a bachelor's degree in some field, even though more people than ever have one and many of them don't know how to do basic home or car maintenance, much more practical knowledge than liberal arts.
@@MidwestArtMan Yeah degrees like gender "studies" are worth jack shit but those people are among the ones who hold lots of influence in society.
I've noticed the same. Especially seeing things like Disney shills wanting the original Star Wars trilogy remade. Also the whole "Modern Audiences" thing that The Critical Drinker talked about. Not to mention The Cultural Revolution of tearing down old statues and monuments of heroes and good people and putting up ugly abominations in tribute of criminals and subversives instead.
That's wild. I've experienced a little bit of that, I suppose, but not as often as I've heard the opposite: bias against the present and future in favor of the past. As a historian and educator and generally nostalgic person I understand the desire to glorify the past and overlook all the truly horrifyingly bad stuff that came with the good; but I also think those who prefer the past to the point of bias against the present and future are in danger of repeating the age-old mistake of thinking their time and ways of doing things is the or time and ways of doing things. I prefer longer-form content to the short snippets for short attention spans we tend to see today, and so I have to correct myself from thinking that a novel is inherently better than a RUclips video. Any talk of Truth with a capital T tends to make me uncomfortable. Does that make sense?
All of our problems stem from the breakdown of the nuclear family. Literally ALL of them. As a teacher, it shocks me how many of my students come from single parent households.
....and as such, we could be planting the seeds of the return of the family. Begin to build dad up, teach them that marrying a young woman and raising a family are their purpose.....teach girls that there is no higher call than to rear their children, as it is, men are largely portrayed two ways.... misogynistic brutes or as buffoons, little wonder so many fit the mold cast for them and little wonder women desire them so little. Women are portrayed as whores and profligate 1:12 witches and manipulators as if any of that is wise or helpful. . Little wonder men have little interest in them.
We've been on this road for a long time, it'll take a while to fix it. .....but I believe you are right. The family is the key.
Many societies went through single home parenthood. Wars were a thing that killed men throughout history.
I took AP US history in high school. The teacher asked the class what our country's first war was. I shot my hand up and answered the Barbary Wars. Wrong! He was looking for the war of 1812. That is the moment I completely lost interest in school. It was a topic I knew so much about and was completely shut down.
Bruv, at my school we would literally have three hour seminars about the current thing. My favorite one was the transgender one where my friend and I got really high and were told to donate our clothes to be good ‘allies’. I would also get indirectly berated for being white and blonde almost everyday, even though a big chunk of me is Arab and my skin is darker than more than half of the ‘persons of color’ in the school. Being a Christian (I love Jesus) was also a big no no, but being a Muslim (our Abrahamic Brothers who think Jesus was a Prophet) was celebrated.
assalamu alaykum! if you are muslim, never say that you belong to other religion, i fear it can be a kufr. but still we love Jesus aka 'Isa (peace be upon him), the son of Mary (aka Maryam)
@@galymzhankyrykbaev2976 my dear friend, I am a Christian! But I just find it interesting that at my school it was found to be more than acceptable to be a Muslim but not a Christian; even though we revere the same Prophets and are both Abrahamic traditions. I pray you have a good day!
@@galymzhankyrykbaev2976 I feel like when ISIS evaporated in Syria in the late 2010s - whether that was because Trump cut their funding or for some other reason - the propaganda engine that had been going through the War on Terror stoking distrust between Muslims and Christians was also allowed to run dry.
The major difference between Christian and Muslim is on Jesus being the Son of God
1 John 2:22-23
Sūra 112
@@what4hatsThat and Christianity not accepting Muhammad as prophet or the Quran as scripture.
Even here in the UK, the problem is so blatantly obvious that everyone constantly rags on about the schools not teaching us anything correctly. When I did my plumbing apprenticeship course back in college, I did four years study, but back when my dad was an apprentice he did seven years. Yet I wasn't even taught a third of what I needed to know when I left; they told us a bunch of rubbish and taught us nothing worth a damn that I didn't already know from my employer.
All a plumber needs to know is shit rolls downhill, payday is on Fridays, and don't lick your fingers
@@bobwhite9248 don't check your line with soap, have your supervisor check your work, orange tape, gray dope, hand tight, quarter turn, now you're the lowest level of gasfitter
UK education is pretty good, but I live in a good area so might be an outlier. My daughter can read well at age 5, not something I was doing age 5 growing up in Australia, about a year ahead. She’s also better at mathematics than I was at this age.
Also UK still has some of the best Universities in the world.
I do think though that Australia is better at Trade education with their TAFE (Technical and Further Education) system.
When I was in a pipefitting apprenticeship, the instructors were some of the laziest people I ever met in the trade. They were only there for the time-and-a-half pay and to hang out with their buddies at the schoolhouse & union hall.
Their answer to every question was "They'll teach you that on the job." Well, guess what their answer was when we asked them on the job? "They didn't teach you that at the schoolhouse?" 🙄
The problem with western society is that nobody is invested in anything outside of themselves anymore. Everybody just wants somebody else to deal with it.
@@sullathehutt7720Comes with the demographic collapse.
A society of increasingly elderly voters couldn't care less about a future that doesn't have any of their descendants in it.
It is best summed up in the sardonic Millennial observation : They struggled so that I could call my cats their grandkids...
Tech is dumbing us down. 30 years ago I had over 40 phone numbers memorized. Knew every member of my extended families bdays and addresses as well as most friends. Not to mention the surprising number of mathematical formulas from my area of study, physics. Today I struggle to know what day it is without looking at my phone.
You may just be retired. To retired people every day is the same.
I think one point the author here forgets is that people in the past may not have been more educated because it was "fun", but because knowledge of the classics was an escape from a life of drudgery. When you're a farmer working 12-hour days, looked down on by the upper classes, you have more reason to be educated and knowledgeable.
I remember reading Winston Churchill's "The River War" around 2008 when Darfur was in the news. The book opens with the line, "The Sudan is divided into three regions, like Gaul." I laughed at the reference to the first line of Caesar's Conquest of Gaul. Latter upon reflection, it occurred to me that Churchill was writing for an audience who overwhelmingly would have gotten the reference, whereas today you would have to be a serious history buff to have even heard of either book. Fantastic video as always Whatifalthist!
He really does read through all the comments
100%
Excellent reference. My go-to password is a variation on that first line of the garlic wars.
@@zhuyu9268 may I ask where you are from?
I think an old Simpsons joke put it best.
"Bart needs to learn to be less of an individual and more of a faceless cog."
Also the independent thought alarm is probably standard in schools now
Uh oh...two independent thought alarms in one day. The students must be over stimulated. Willy, remove the colored chalk from all the classrooms...
@@andrewpiazza1001I WARRRRNED YA ABOOT THA CHALK! IT’S FROM THA DEVIL, I SAY!!
@@emmonsterdNonsense! The coloured chalk is necessary to keep society's very fabric intact. Don't be so short sighted
This is why NONE of my children went to school We educated them at home and this was in the 1990s Things are FAR worse now
How did you do it? What is more expensive?
I went to school in the mid to late 60s. My mother discovered that I couldn't read when I was in the fifth grade. She frog marched me up to school to confront my teachers and demanded to know what they were going to do about it. "Nothing" was the reply. They didn't teach reading to kids my age. My mother sat me down for an hour everyday after school and made me read out loud. It was a forced march but it saved me from a life of ignorance and under employment. My mom was a practical woman. She knew that a son that couldn't read was one that would never be successful at work or anything else. She had plans for me that included me, moving out of the house, getting married and having grand kids. I loved my mom but I believe that there was a practical consideration in her efforts. I am eternally grateful to her for her efforts.
When I was in the 7th grade I was bussed to a new school outside of my area. Something called "Team Teaching " was all the rage. I was a 7th grader. I went to a brand new school built and designed on the Team teaching model. There were no class rooms only big open common spaces separated by movable walls. The teacher were supposed to work as a unit taking a large group of kids and then splitting them up for individual attention. The concept might have been great for an academic paper but in practice, with teens and pre teen's, it was bedlam. I had a teacher say "I just can't teach you like this. Two years later the school was closed, turned into a special learning center and the students were shipped off to regular schools. The results were criminal. We lost years of education to theory and stupidity. I escaped only because my mother home schooled me back when that didn't even have a name. My mother trusted the education system and could not believe how badly it failed.
This is just my experience but the politicizing of schools has been going on a long time and every generation of kids suffers from this corporate miss management, apathy and neglect. The kids that do well excel in spite of the system and not because of it.
This was one of your best yet. Don't feel bad about not getting praised in school. I was probably praised too much (4.0 GPA, academic awards, etc) and life took a turn for the worse when I left for college and the real world. Took me years to figure it out. I also agree that teachers really do bear the collective blame for our state of decline that we have. Its tragic that they can stand there and blame me for the slavery that took place 160 years ago, yet they cannot take responsibility for their students that are failing right now.
Every teacher nowadays is projecting their Kingdom Hearts fanfic fetish onto kids and it makes me want to learn arabic to rally the problems they caused for everyone and themselves, onto them.
The damage they've caused from pushing the populous towards the implication that "Because whites had a good run for so long, their children deserve to be defiled and bereaved." That "A parent forcing their children to practice virginity until their 18 shouldn't raise kids to begin with." deserves no mercy or forgiveness.
لا رحمة سخيف!
Same here. Coasted through high school without putting in much effort, even taking advanced classes and skipping a grade.
Im finally piecing my life together.
To extend your last point, college professors harp on 160-year-old slavery to distract from the not readily distinguishable academic labor model of today.
Same. School was never challenging until I was put 2 years ahead in math. I didn't ask for help because I had this notion that I was naturally good at it and shouldn't need help. I'm sure how I passed calculus. By the time I got to community college, I mostly calculated how much work I needed to do to pass each class and just did that much. Now, I'm a working class 28 year-old who still struggles with self-motivated work.
Believe me. Lots of teachers know how broken the system is and quit and that's why there's a huge teacher shortage. Unfortunately now it's mostly the weak woke ones who stayed.
Covid hyper-reaction was the final nail in education - and for no reason at all. Kids were almost totally immune to the more severe effects of covid - especially the earlier versions.
It was the nursing and retirement homes that should have been locked down tight - and weren't....
You are absolutely insane.
how is he insane? It is the truth though
@@mam0lechinookclan607 do you even realize how many children would have been carriers for Covid.. The issue was not the kids getting Covid but them passing it onto the others.
@@smeekle2000 Notnhing insane has been said. you sound like a green haired tranny when you call sombody insane without saying why.
It wasn't to protect the kids. The teachers unions pushed this to protect the teachers. As for the nursing homes, yeah Cuomo took some heat on this. But it isn't realistic to "lock down" a nursing home. Not when the employees have to come and go, not to mention supply deliveries and whatnot. You can't half ass this stuff, the only solution would have been to do lock downs like Ch!na did. Which basically means everything shuts down, and the government workers deliver essential supplies.
School and university have made me succeed.. at being a dehumanised highly skilled corporate slave, Thats a bitter truth to swallow..
Homeschooled my kid until 8th grade, where she scored 29 on the ACT. She wanted to go to a large state boarding school so knowing her education sound I let her. One night had the principal of the local school, masters in education, and the assistant superintendent, masters in education, over and they voiced concerns about a homeschool kid going so late to a public school. I pointed out her ACT test score, 29, age 13, two points higher than principal ever achieved, assistant superintendent wouldn't say what her score was, was good as far as education. Good on ELA, good on math, done calculus, and very good on history. My kid shouted from the front room, "I hope I never hear of the sea people ever again!" The principal and assistant superintendent both said at the same time, "Who are the sea people?"
Lesson. Can't get a good education from such people who are running the education system.
The downfall of public schooling has only been exacerbated by smartphones and social media. During my last year of high school, TikTok came out. You had people dancing around in the middle of class during a lesson and opening disrespecting teachers. The teachers had zero authority to take away the kids’ phones, even parents will say it’s a “violation of their rights.” Most students cannot go 40 minutes without looking at their smartphone. This may not be the case for every school but at my inner city public high school, it could literally see the downward spiral happening before my eyes. The movie Idiocracy wasn’t satire, in fact it was an understatement.
This is why none of my children have ever had a 'smart' phone. (Smart phone, dumb user.)
Unfortunately the typical inner city high school is populated overwhelmingly by kids whose IQs are really too low for anything beyond the sixth grade. But most alarmingly, the average adult only has a sixth grade reading level so this problem is typical of at least one third of the kids pretty much everywhere. We need to go back to trades apprenticeships.
Well given John D Rockefeller's opinion on the countries men in relation to education was “I don't want a nation of thinkers, I want a nations of workers.” I'd dare to say, since he essentially imported the Prussian education model, which was designed to turn people into unthinking drones in a worker beehive. I'd say this is all not only by design, but succeeding in it's intended purpose. It may have started in 1903, but it would seem that the goal has been achieved with flying colors. The people out to revise information past or present for an agenda is exacerbating this as well. He may have gotten his wish over a century later, but keep in mind, stupid people do not up hold great empires. I would not be surprised if this is a catalyst for the modern world to experience its own Bronze Age collapse.
Everything I hear about that guy makes him sound more evil.
Everything, and I mean everything the ruling class does is to help themselves retain power. Creating an educated, inquisitive, deep thinking population is the biggest threat to them. Ignorance doesn't question, they just do. They might complain, but they accept that doing anything about it is above their pay grade. When people become knowledgeable, they start to question things, and we can't have that!
The colours that fly brightest as of now are the sexual diversity rainbow flag's. What a goal achieved!
That doesn’t explain the British model failing as well
@@digitalfootballer9032 unfortunately for him, I did developed some thought and realised, why be a faceless cog in a machine for them to throw away at their leisure.
As a female high school history teacher, maybe it'll give you hope to hear that my friends and I have been talking about this for years and have reached the very same conclusions. Perhaps, I wouldn't be as bitter towards female teachers as you are considering we have very little control over the systems, curriculum, and policies that are put in place by faceless, nameless bureaucrats, yet are expected to act as surrogate parents to nearly every child in the area. However, I do understand that you had many negative experiences with female teachers and I'm sorry for that. I did too, especially in high school. I work very hard to give my students opportunities to use more practical skills in my history class, but ultimately there needs to be an entire rehaul of our education system.
Also, I found it helpful and easier to give more Grace to the colleagues I disagreed with once I fully internalized how we, men and women, educators and businessmen, have been indoctrinated from birth to believe in a liberal ideology. Even those from conservative families are hard pressed to protect their children from the constant and pervasive propaganda that infects our society. My liberal minded colleagues are not evil masterminds, but mostly women and men who are trying their best to do good with the information that's been force-fed to them. I'd like to think that those of us here that are trying to find Truth, are truly blessed to partake in a conversation such as this since it would've been all too easy to end up like so many others. But, I don't know, maybe I'm just an overly agreeable woman 😂. Lol.
Yes you are an overly agreeable woman. Liberal white women are the downfall of society. Repeal the 19th
This is why I quit teaching to eventually become a barber. Barbers do their own work and you can’t talk a good haircut. There was also more time for reading whatever I was currently interested in during breaks between haircuts.
They were too busy talking about the Holocaust to talk about the Barbary wars
Many teachers I had were idiots and narcissists who didn't do a good job (many were also abusive to me as well). My history teacher in my senior year in high school though in my Civil War class nurtured my passion for military history, and I'm very grateful to him.
the history teacher at my school was cool too. he even tried to explain to everyone how the banks create money out of thin air and nobody really believed him lol
I happen to know a lot of teachers, and, a lot of them took the job for 1) safety of income 2) vacations period.
They don't like kids, they don't like teaching, they don't value knowledge...
A lot of teachers aren't passionate about teaching and working with kids and are mediocre pedagogues at best!
Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
This was very interesting & I totally agree. I think that the education system has been dumbed down to:
1: to cater to the lowest common denominator.
2: a population that can't critically think for themselves can be controlled easily.
the problem is, it's also making the leaders just as unable to think.
People who are right tend to agree; thinking for yourself is overrated. It's about being correct; do not be deceived. Knowing how to think does not lead people to have independent and unique ideas. There are no two contradictory and co-equal truths. Only one way is best. They withhold the knowledge of critical thought specifically so that people think for themselves, so that they form delusion and fantasy, so that they can be lied to.
@@keyboardwarrior6296 thinking for yourself & critically analysing what is/isn't said will allow you to see through the BS. That's important.
Being able to see what is wrong/missing from someone's argument enables you to not be hood winked & mislead.
@@TomJones-be5ny People who use independent reasoning do not come to unique conclusions. What happens when you let children think for themselves? Why is it necessary that they are instructed? Why is it that all of the social revolutions of the past century were made up of people who fully believed that they were just "thinking for themselves?" It is more important to be correct than it is to "think for yourself." You cannot learn how to reason by "thinking for yourself." It requires instruction.
@@TomJones-be5ny * people who use independent reasoning correctly
I taught at a public middle school last year and I can tell you that DISCIPLINE was a big problem, if not the biggest.
The facilties were fine, we had some GREAT teachers, and I saw very little political corectness (even in our history class which talked about slavery). Students were also given plenty of chances to be creative and to think for themselves.
However, all of that was hampered by a subset of students who clowned around and disrespected the teachers with little consequences. It was disruptive and I felt bad for the students who wanted to learn because their attention was constantly being derailed by bufoonery. Teachers coudl try to send them to the office but that created even more distraction. Students were sometimes suspended but would return a few weeks later seemingly unchanged.
I worked with one of the best teachers I've ever seen, who had some solid ways of managing the classroo, but it honestly wasn't enough because the 4 or 5 erraticly behaved students, some of which seemed immune to anything she could throw at them. Imagine being a skilled science teacher who previously worked at NASA and yet 40% of your effort goes towards managing the 4 troublemakers while the other 24 try to focus (yes, it was a huge class).
IMO raising standards of behavior can be the foundation of recovery for our schools. Students need to know they are here to learn, do the work, and respect the teacher and that disrespect will not be tolerated. No exceptions.
Usually class clowns happen because there's something wrong, might not be the school, but something is almost always up in their lives.
F YOU TEACHERS DON'T DESERVE RESPECT.
Or maybe the material is boring and stupid lol
no real consequences is an issue
By middle school they've beaten out the desire to learn and no person would stay still and be disciplined for utter nonsense that is wasting their life in school.
Students aren't given any chances to be creative, a creative student would tell their teacher that what they are learning is a waste of time and start learning a real-life skill.
It is not just the US Education system that is failing-it is a concerted global effort. I teach in a country where instead of raising standards-they lowered the bar drastically. A grade of 50% will allow a student to "pass" in a subject. The first exam I gave at University my class average was a 69%. I went to campus thinking I would be in "trouble". I was told by the Dean that my average was the highest and that was how a leaned a 50% was passing in higher academics.
I just wanted to say I love this channel. I am old for your audience demographic at 34. But I was completely caught in the collective mental illness of our time, nihilistic, hedonistic, radical leftist, you know name it I bought it. Thankfully new age psychological and historical channels like this and other "petersonian" content saved my life. And I'm not being hyperbolic. And for that I just wanted to say thank you.
I'm 41 and although I feel the same, being to old for Rudy's target audience, his content vibes very well with me.
The only conclusion is that Rudyard is just a Millennial born in a Gen-Z body 🤷♂
What gives a shimmer of hope is that his audience is growing, so maybe some knowledge will pass on to new generations after all...
30s-40s gang!👴
@@rey_nemaattori47 here, and a late Gen Xer, and his content and opinions also relate very well to me. I'm just barely old enough to have went through the old system before it got overly polluted with politically correct propaganda/wokeism/bs, though it wasn't completely non-existent in my time. When I went to college in the 1990's while most instructors were not shy about their political beliefs, the main difference was that almost all of them still encouraged debate and disagreement back then, and didn't just tell you it was their way only. One of my favorite professors was probably the most far left one I had, I being fairly right wing, and I loved debating him. I probably didn't agree with a single political stance he took but always was graded on my presentation rather than my views, and aced his course. That just doesn't happen any more. You conform or you fail.
I'm 35 and in the same boat. I've always noticed anecdotal evidence for a lot of what Rudy says but never put it all together. I'm thankful for this content as well.
Personally I think Rudy is a direct response to our generation's fuckery. It was just so easy to buy the shit I was sold intellectually. It almost ruined my whole life. Thankfully I recognized the disease for what it was before I was in my 50-60s staring down only one third of my life left.
I always thought a core problem is that being a teacher has always been looked down on. "Those who can't do, teach" sums it up. Instead of being a dedicated full time position, I think it would be better if teaching was the universal final stage of all careers. The years before you retire are when you're the wisest and have the most knowledge from life and whatever it is you specialize in. It's the perfect time to share the knowledge with younger generations. But literally nobody wants to do that, because there's no incentive. Money is a good incentive of course, assuming the funding was there, you can offer more than what they'd make grinding out a few more years working. But a much better incentive would be a large scale cultural shift where we would view someone getting to the point of being able to teach as the ultimate goal and worth respect. I'm not sure how we'd ever get there though, or if it'd even be a good idea in practice haha.
That was the normal for societies everywhere with the most common system being apprenticeship where the established player makes money selling the apprentices' work.
Some of the problem is that most teachers are 'C' level students themselves and their college courses are academic jokes.
You're certainly not far off the mark, there. I've been in the machining world for nearly 15 years now, and while I've come across some old timers, none of them wanted to teach. They were afraid for their jobs. I consider teaching the up and comers part of my job. Granted part of that is I know none of them are swoof enough to be as good as me, but I'll still show them all my kung fu moves just in case it helps. Its our responsibility, every single one of us old people, to find at least one young person and teach them something, anything of value.
@@mrgbig6237and id be willing to learn
@@mrgbig6237I feel like the crux of the modern problems we face is that the youth has been effectively abandoned by the older generations. I felt this very personally growing up.
On the history point, I went to a good high school, and our entire history curriculum was covering the main beats of American history in increasing detail year after year. No broadening in scope even.
"I don't want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers."
-John D. Rockefeller
Created the General Education Board (GEB) in 1903 to dispense Rockefeller funds to education
"The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all, it is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed and train a standardized citizenry, to put down dissent and originality." H. L. Mencken
A lot of people in this comment section don't seem to know or realize this fact...
That quote was attributed to John D Rockefeller by a UFO Conspiracy Theorist in 2006
I'm Swedish and I have heard of the Barbary Wars. Granted, we didn't learn of it actively in school, but I have a distinct memory of one of my history teachers telling us about it. I later read up on it. Our school system has failed too, with many leaving school without having learned much needed for future studies and work. It seems to be a universal problem, sadly.
All the best teachers I remember from school have always been those that had a lot of knowledge that went well beyond the curriculum and were not afraid to share it in interesting ways for the students to ponder upon. They'd also not shy from answering any questions about things that may lie beyond the curriculum either.
Sweden was a participant in those wars, as was the US. So it's kinda logic to know about them, even if you're not up to date with all the details & dates.
Maybe Sweden has caught up to us in the race to the bottom, but it seemed that actually much of Europe was well ahead of the United States in education 30 years ago. My dad worked for a Swedish company (SKF) at the main US division, and most of the executives at the time were Swedish, French, and Dutch, and they were light years ahead of most of the Americans. Outside of my dad and a handful of others, most of the executives had to be imported in because there just weren't enough qualified people there to do anything but work the factory. Just like Rudyard says in the video, the American education system was there at the time to churn out factory workers, and that's exactly what it did.
i just read it in a history book when i was about 4 years old
Dude, I can almost 100% guarantee you that Swedish public schools are infinitely better off than even the best of the best American public schools.
Growing up. It was weird to look back and know for a fact that kids 2 years younger than me were completely different than us. There was a distinct line.
It was also really weird being one of 3 guys in the gifted and advanced placement classes among entire classes of women. Always so strange to me that almost all of the girls in my grade were considered gifted whiled only 3 of us guys were.
They want permanent birth control
That's normla that's how it was in my school too, in fact they were so gifted they were allowed to not do work.
“Growing up.” is not a complete sentence. How/where did this internet trend of starting a comment with an incomplete sentence begin?
@@iambergesonIt began when texting costed you money for each character typed.
Let me guess, you are between 21 and 26 years old
I’m a 62 year old teacher in Ireland & I advise to ‘homeschool’
All homeschool children that I know met up during lockdown.. that says it all!!
Here in Germany:
1. Children MUST begin school by age 7. It depends on the birthday and health of the child.
2. Children MUST go to either a government school or a private school. The minimum curriculum requirements are handed down from the state and follow UN guidelines.
3. Once matriculation begins, it may not stop.
4. If school is in session, barring illness or extreme circumstances, the child must be in attendance even after the grades have been tabulated, will not change, and no further material is to be covered.
5. To acquire an exception to point 4 for any reason, one must ask for and recieve permission for leave of the school's principal.
All this would be at least marginally less agitating if the kids were actively learning new things. You can supplement the child's learning at home in the time left over to her or him at the end of the day, but kids need play time outside, too. The problem is, even though my child is in one of the better schools in our city, teaching to the lowest level of understanding is king and as a parent, I can't take my own child out of that environment in order to completely individualize its education at home. Home schooling/co-opting is no-go. How I would love to un-school my child to watch it bloom!
(Besides the rights outlined in the US Construction, this is another way America is better than Germany - in the USA, you can, more or less, choose to raise your child in the way you see fit.)
Beyond elementary school, and then, to a greater degree, after roughly the 8th class, the tracts begin to diverge, as mentioned in the video, into either trade or, to varrying degrees, more scholastic focuses. I would say, in the USA, I noticed in high school that this began to happen around 9th grade. I mean, that is when you first got to take shop class, music, drama, etc. Some people were able to do work-study after the 10th grade, I think. Those tracts weren't really promoted as much as the go-to-college-or-else-you'll-end-up-poor tract was, but they were available. Otherwise, after high school, you could go cet certifications at the local community college for basic skills and stuff....many options.
Isnt police visiting parents if kid dont go to school for 3 days in Germany?
In Poland police would go crazy with same system
As a highschool senior, this is painfully clear to me today. So many of my peers treat school as a chore to get through, instead of an opportunity to invest in their future. And partially, I don't blame them. Its sad to see people I grew up with end up with no achievements to their name when they're pushed into the real world.
As a person who graduated a few days ago(midterm graduate). I have always viewed school as useless, I have good grades, but the only reason I still try is more free money for college where I’ll learn more bloated and useless information. The only subjects I’m interested in are social sciences, but instead I have to know complex mathematical equations or write essays on books that don’t align with my major of choice(political science) at all. To this day I despise school and believe that it is the largest legally forced waste of time ever.
@@LiveType same lol, I'm top 20 in my class of ~500 and I don't really study or anything. My mom was super hard on my when I was young in terms of getting me into reading, and conditioned me into actually enjoying the intake of information. I got like super into space and all that at one point when I was 7, to the point where I would read highschool to college level papers on it and whenever I didn't know what a word was I would look it up in my dictionary. I feel like that thirst for knowledge didn't fit within the confines of the curriculum we had, I vividly remember getting in trouble for reading books on space whilst my teachers were teaching lmao. My elementary experience wasn't half bad simply because I had some good teachers. But everything past that wasn't hard, just boring. Its pretty damn crazy how much of an influence our parents actions have on us during our developmental years. Also discord users are typically idiots, dropouts, or pretentious pricks, so good luck with that one.
Did your English teachers ever explain "dangling modifier" to your classes? Your opening sentence contains one.
@@calrex4513, that is a loser's attitude. There is no such thing as a boring subject; there are only incurious students.
@@terrydunkle626 nope, we read a bunch of books I didn't really care about. Now I know what it is though lol. I wrote that first comment while I was taking a shit at work.
I attended public school in the 1950s and early ‘60s. My wife was a 1970-‘80s school teacher. When I showed her my poor grades on old tests and reports I had done, she said this work would be considered outstanding in modern grading and expectation.
As a male 8th grade U.S. History teacher who works in a public school and left the teachers union, I endorse this video. We need school choice!
I'm glad I live in Utah our schools have remained relatively conservative. We are taught about actual history, we are taught about the Greatness of the US, we are taught about the history of our state, we are taught about religion, and we are allowed to share and debate our own opinions. Obviously there are improvements that can be made such as bringing back masculine Schooling.
I grew up in the post No Child Left Behind era of American education and I was constantly hindered by the new system. Our system has been geared to teach to a select few tests given throughout the year. They don’t care about actually teaching the subject beyond what students need to pass an EOC (End of Course Exam) and later on in life college entrance exam like the SAT or ACT and AP courses. It’s not about learning so much as it is gaming the system with just the right amount of information to pass the final test.
The consequence of this system has been that the tested subjects - often STEM subjects , Reading, and English - are the only ones given emphasis in curriculums. If you like the arts, social sciences, or practical skills like machining or carpentry your pretty much screwed for 12 years. And not to shock people but only a small portion of the population are actually capable enough to go far with a STEM job or English related degree. For most students that means school is a boring sit at your desk nightmare for seven straight hours that starts before their biological clocks tell them to get up. It’s a complete nightmare if you don’t fall into the 5-10% that are naturally good at test taking, geniuses, or have the means to purchase programs that help you improve your grades and test scores.
Not everyone falls into the same profession and not everyone should be judged on a handful of subjects that most of them couldn’t care less about. If you get kids interested into a a subject they will pursue it and they will do so with great enjoyment and vigor. We need to gear school to broadening it’s subjects as wide as possible to reduce class sizes and get kids thinking on something they love rather than something they hate. That nurtures and builds intelligence not test taking.
I also wouldn’t say modern literature has been dumbed down its just been standardized. There are strict standards for a books writing quality because a jumble of incoherent paragraphs just won’t sell. I’ve read Machiavelli, Nietzsche, and Locke and I can say that I found difficulty in understanding some of the concepts without rereading paragraphs. This isn’t because the writing itself is hard to understand we’re just used to much higher standard of it making paragraphs more readable.
About history class: I'm from western Germany and my history classes focused disproportionally on three things: The creation of the german Empire, german colonialism during the Empire and the Nazis. All of these things were painted in a negative light. We were made to judge century old political cartoons through our modern moral standards.
The rise of Prussia and geniuses like Frederick the Great weren't talked about. Bismarck, the father of our nation, was criticised for his aggression. All the scientific and industrial breakthroughs that german scientists and engineers are responsible for were never talked about. If your name isn't Fritz Haber or Albert Einstein, you weren't mentioned.
Looking back at it, it's pretty obvious that the curriculum was trying to push a certain narrative. That our ancestors were bad people, that we shouldn't be proud of our history.
I’m sure what you say is true - for pretty obvious reasons give European 20th century history: but I think we would both agree that 3 generations out, it’s time to ease up on the denazificaltion. Btw I’m from U.K. and we have had many Germans working for us: they are more based, less complacent, more enquiring than their British counterparts. Peace!
In Germany it at least makes sense, you were conquered and occupied by a foreign power after WWII and the people in charge wanted to neuter the German population….In the USA however? We effectively won the Cold War and immediately ceded control of our education system to the communists.
Visiting Germany, it shows. The millennial generations are hopelessly liberal. Its kind of tragic.
And it is being pushed on you by a specific group of people who hate you.
The kind of people a specific derided painter who loved his people tried to protect by any means necessary.
Sadly the bad guys won and your people were only taught about the heroes of the victors.
Ive only seen a few of your videos, but I already love this channel. It digs into many fields that are rarely covered on RUclips, and gives intelligent, less biased, and objective commentary on the world. It’s hard to believe that you struggled in school, as your insight goes further, and gives better answers to problems than that of many other people. Keep up the good work!
This channel is one of my favorites especially for geopolitics. It never gets recommended to me. It's insane
A thing I have noticed is the language complexity found in older books such as Pride & Prejudice. If you look at the structure of the sentences and paragraphs they are QUITE complex compared to modern writing styles. And these books were popular fiction at the time of publication, so average people were reading them.
I like to read older books occasionally and I’m always taken by the complexity of their structure. It shines a light on how…simple our culture has become.
I believe this is just a matter of language evolving, which makes modern work appear more simple because past work uses language which is rarer nowadays
tbf, they were popular among people who read books, but how popular was reading?
You don't even have to look that far back. If you really want to be blown away with just how much popular media has degraded just look to the pulp stuff from the 1920s - 1970s. Stuff like Solomon Kane or Conan the Barbarian would be considered lower-brow for the time, but now, they blow many - if not most- popular modern works out of the water with their linguistic complexity.
Try listening to old time radio shows from the 30's and 40's. The vocabulary was broader and more eloquent. Also, the wit was quick and the audience kept up with it.
Those "average people" you refer would be wealthy and educated by modern standards and would have lots of free time.
Literacy wasn't even on the same level as now.
You are comparing apples to oranges.
Bullseye 🎯. The dumbing down of education is utterly evident, but also deliberate. I was a high school English teacher for 32 years and can honestly say I taught composition skills and kids returned to praise me. I retired this June. Kids actually want the bar raised, but most of my colleagues fear kids quitting their classes!!
After teaching for 22 years myself, I agree with your view.
I was a solid D student in high school, in college I became a solid A student towards the end. I have 2 theories on how to reform the school system based on my experiences. First, is the mild approach and that is to do away with homework and mitigate tests, instead students should be able to get unlimied extra credit if they put in extra work, or example in history you could get extra credit by writing a paper on an event with demonstration of independent study, this would teach students self study and to be passionate about their interests one paper could be a cool war or a cool technology however you like. The second, more extreme model is one to completely end the schooling system. Homeschooling produces better outcomes but struggles with socialization, instead communities should revive the one room schoolhouse. By having older kids teach younger kids they learn subject matters better and teach alike self study but also leadership and responsibility. It would be a very complex solution that may even not work, but certainly should be experimented with.
edit: I wrote this mid way through so I didn't get to the part actually advocating these very things
“They knew many things but had no idea why. And strangely this made them more, rather than less, certain that they were right.” - Stephenson, Anathem.
I've been saying this ever since i was old enough to understand such things, but quite simply the school system in America is not based on learning any real skills, or promoting achievement in any way. It is based on conformity and grooming the next generation to do what is expected of them, not what they are capable of. It's a giant system of mediocrity where the best and brightest are actually stifled because they are a bigger threat to the nations power structure.
It's not just america. Asia is a giant battery farm compared to america. The elites establish the players for whom the vast majority is expected to work for, for the rest of their lives. The massive rat race and nitpicking about quarter of a mark in tests are all about landing one position over or under to the next person in that particular designated corp. you're destined to work for.
I grew up in an educational system and culture that actually looked down on intellectualism. It wasnt until years after school that I actually developed my interest for literature and foreign languages, despite briefly learning these things in school.
My teacher's catchphrase was "Don't be smart with me, boy!" summed the place up nicely.
@@KingMinos316 Teachers always acted like that.. It's bad, children are only trying to prove they have learned something, but they are made to be seen as inferiors to the teachers.
Yeah I felt school completely and utterly interfered with my learing, I actually had to argue and fight with teachers to study when I was finished of the entirety of the workload of the class in the first 10 minutes of it. it was absurd.
The people today who are uninterested in history would have been illiterate 200 years ago. Those who used to know all battles of all the wars in England now spend that energy on the revision history of the architecture of their devstack. History has limited economic value.
I am working on a company built around beating the education system at their own game of testing and bureaucracy. Even so, this video has still managed to blow my mind and teach me tons of things I didn’t now. You have to be the smartest person in terms of history and societal change I have ever heard.
I was fortunate enough to be home-schooled through 9th grade. I cannot imagine where I would be if I were pushed through the public school system. I never enjoyed studying, and always put in minimal effort into homework, but my mother's teaching method forced me to learn good study habits. This was a blessing in disguise. She never tolerated grades less than a B. So if we failed at a topic, we would stay at that topic until sufficient mastery of the subject. This meant our "semesters" would usually drag much longer than our public school counterparts, but it also meant we truly understood the topics we studied.
I did very well with the skills I learned which helped me when I went to a small Christian private school during my 10th grade year. I thought the content of the subjects were easier than the curriculum my parents used because I found it extremely easy. This was reflected on my 4.0 GPA with dual enrollment credits.
Currently, it is my senior year of college, and I have a 3.85 GPA with a degree in Cybersecurity. I never thought I would make it this far in all honesty, but the support from my parents and the habits & skills I learned helped me succeed in university. The military college life is not for everyone, but it allowed me build social and leadership skills I would not have otherwise had if I had not been pursuing a commission in the US Army through a military and academic institution.
Godspeed everyone
I think I underwent a very similar experience to yours. I too was homeschooled, but I stopped at 6th grade but then I did it again to replace what would have been my 8th grade year, and then I went to spend all four years at high school. Unfortunatly this is a public high school and I know that I am having extreme difficulty focusing and maintaining the discipline I was taught.
I've done well enough to get into my dream school which is a huge weight off my shoulders. Like you I am pursuing a commision in the United State military, and I've literally never wanted anything more in my life. Because my dream school is an SMC, I'm hoping what I experience there will force me to fix in myself whatever I allowed to be broken when I went into the public school system.
There is another issue, because I feel like the public school system made it easier for me to lose my discipline and focus, I have suffered physically. I wake up and I do not eat because I stayed up too late gaming and I needed my precious four hours of sleep so I can only alot myself ten minutes to get ready for the day. I go to my periods and I do every bit of homework for the next period, because I chose to neglect my school work, and this usually works but when it doesn't it's really bad. I go home and the cycle continues, I game until the morning and I get four or five hours in the morning. I do not work out or run or apply for scholarships even though I know those are the things I should be focusing on at this point since I only technically need to pass two classes particular classes this year.
I'm hoping you might have some advice since you seem to pretty much be where I want to be.
@@feldgrau9182 Hello. I'm glad you are taking an interest in the military. The Army needs good leaders.
I definitely sympathize with the habits slipping when changing learning methods. I will not lie, I've also struggled with that as well, because frankly, it is easier. Hold yourself to a high standard and don't take shortcuts. Start acting like the leader the Army needs one step at a time.
I played a lot of games throughout high school. I did that because I did not I had a purpose in life. Find the purpose that will drive you forward and keep you on the path. Create short term (1 month), medium term (1 year), and long term (3 year) goals. After that, quitting video games is much easier because you have "quests" IRL to pursue. I still play time to time and unwind, but my main focus is on these goals, and much what I do is towards them.
For your situation I would focus on improving sleep and time management. You would be surprised how productive you are when you get 7-8 hours of sleep. After that is in order, start working on nutrition, eating at least 3 times a day of good high protein food. Fixing those things will immediately boost your mood and motivation. Pick a day you know you wont have much going on in the morning and set aside time to run. It could be little as half a mile. Building the habit has a higher priority than getting the "gains", because once the habit is set, it is easier to workout more often and for longer intervals.
The military college I attend is also a SMC. The reality of it is different than what I expected. Usually, for the first semester up to a year will be academically and mentally rigorous. You will be adjusting to a different lifestyle on top becoming acquainted with college classes and homework. The first year is the hardest for cadets and typically has the highest attrition rate out of all the year groups. Take the challenge head on. You can do it.
I'll link an email if you are interested in talking more.
You know what to do; the challenge is doing it. See it as a way to step up to the plate of saving your civilization, one gentleman at a time. Listen to what your parents told you. Make a schedule every day you have work, and stick to it. Adapt your schedule the next day. The constraints of self-imposed limits are actually more liberating in a meaningful sense than the refusal to choose.
You have what it takes in you.
Also Jordan B Cooper has good videos on the lifestyle of the gentleman
@@jakinboaz8558 Jordan B Cooper... Based
It’s so nice to hear someone else with the same feelings about the education system. I really think wasting everyone’s youth on the current system is tragic.
All in all it’s just a, nether brick in the wall!
Public school teacher here. The way to fix the public school system is easy. No cell phones, let us fail students who aren't up to standard and have them repeat the year, and allow administrators to expel students with impunity. Individualization and inquiry methods which promote critical thinking are fads, although its more that teaching style is less important than pacing and discipline. Tests are needed as they allow you to somewhat objectively assess 100 students in an hour, something which would be impossible with other assessment methods. COVID showed without a doubt that students can't handle the amount of autonomy described in this video, as about half of them cheated their way through the two years and definitely needed the structure of schools.
'They and I'.
'Number of people', 'number of breakthroughs', and so on.
I know all about the barbary pirate wars, but not from school. The Marines put recruits through history classes. It blew my mind, but I learned all kinda military history as a Marine recruit.
"To the shores of Tripoli....." 🎶
Semper Fi
@@boogiemcsploogieexactly! The problem being that the vast majority of Americans have no idea where Tripoli is to question its existence in the song.
@@sarahrosen4985They are actually lucky if they know their own state capital, let alone anything on a different continent 😂. I literally know a person who has a bachelor's degree and thought the capital of New York was New York City, and we live in New York 🤨
Leathernecks.
Really struck a cord with me in the end there, I was raised by a single mother who believed I didn’t need a father figure in my life, she’s a pacifist liberal science teacher, and since I was diagnosed with ADD she put me on adderall and similar drugs too improve my grade in school despite the long term side effects. I love my mom but there are a few things I struggle to forgive her for
Honestly man, I’d forgive your mom but also keep your distance in adulthood. Depriving you of a dad and drugging you into submission? You’re lucky you’ve come out with any capacity to think
@@hornetguy9063 I did actually, always told her that I’d respect her wishes until I turn 18. So I enlisted and got shipped to germany… during covid. Putting my time in the army aside, distance really improved my relationship with my mom
@@calebfenderson9327 likely it didn't, she's doing that to draw you back in line. Except the college educated teacher part, you described my mother. Growing she constantly bounced between "I dOn'T nEeD a Man" to "YoU dOn'T hAvE a DaD tO dO ThAt & I cAn'T bEcAuSe I'm A wOmAn"
Once she thinks you're back and won't leave it'll be right back to the way it was.
You're not the son of a woman like that, your her *pet* AND husband analogue
I am 43 year's old, and I can remember back in 1996 when I was 15 having this conversation with an adult, and I was told I didn't know what I was talking about. I was not discouraged at all I just realized the lie we are all told is very real👍
I remember typing "why school sucks" into a search engine in 2001 when I was twelve. This video makes me nostalgic for that rabbit hole.
There was a time when someone like a hardware store clerk or even the mayor of a town had enough carpentry skills to maintain or even build their own house. People in recent times hardly have the ability to do basic household repairs.
......which coincidently benefits the corporate commercial household repair industry.
Or the time and energy.
Yes. Tradesmen were expected to be literate (even now, many are artists), and some profs built their own houses in my home town.
@@juniorjames7076 Coincidence is usually a framing of hindsight bias. What most likely happened is people were opportunistic enough to start cashing-in on people's ignorance. Most modern industries (in the West) seem to be based around making a profit off of people's helplessness; whether in regard to their intelligence, or their ability.
It’s really not THAT hard to do basically any kind of home maintenance.
Forcing us to do unnecessary classes that will not be needed in the future plays a big part (especially college)
Depends on what you consider to be "nescessary" Anything is useless if you don't use it, but knowledge itself is very important. Its not about learning important stuff its how you learn it and how you use it.
Agree. If I were to quickly change the school system without making a whole new system, I'd keep elementary school and maybe middle school about the same, since it teaches the basics. High school should start to resemble something more like college (for people who want to continue in academia) or a vocational school (for people who just want to work.) In other words, this is where you should start to specialize. College should have minimal classes outside of your specialization, which high school should prepare you for.
High school should also continue to teach math, but mainly for the purposes of financial literacy. Only kids who want to specialize in math (or math heavy fields) should have to take the more advanced classes. Civics also should be taught. I feel like schools focusing on these two subjects more, financial literacy and civics, would do wonders at creating more functional adults that understand how the world works.
Of course, I'm probably being too optimistic. This will never happen.
@@urphakeandgey6308This is the exact system i've talked about, but throw in some basic life skills classes.
@@urphakeandgey6308 it's nice to imagine though.
I would add a heavy dose of Home economics and a touch of Automotive as well.
@@sarahlachman1349I really don’t think we should continue taking English and math courses in college when we did that in K-12 already. Just say it how it is, school and especially college just wants to bleed you dry. These courses are nothing more than to slow you down in the hopes you fail.
Great video! Thank you for making it
I remember when my physics teacher in highschool was talking about the school's long history. Since she attended the same school like 40 years prior, she showed us her report cards where it was shown she had grades approximately one grade below class average of my time. "Keep in mind, with the criteria back in the day, those are worth a grade or two more in today's terms", she said. And we just left it there. I have heard more or less the same observation multiple times in my life, never did anyone object that this is wrong or ask themselves what are we doing in this society. Everyone just took it as granted and normal. This means that every time the general public are underscoring the importance of schooling and education as a foundation of a functioning society, they are lying. If you really considered it that important, you would be perplexed about the grade inflation and constant erosion of criteria in schooling.
Education starts at home, parents have to tell their children and show them how important education is. It's impossible to guarantee good teachers for every student in every class, every year, but parents who have their kids on the straight and narrow with a clear vision for their end-goal. It paves over so much of these imperfection and bumps. "tiger moms" is a slander for a thing that never should have have stopped being the norm of what parents aspire to be.
When "tiger parenting" means filling up all your kids' spare time with extra-curriculars and busywork for the avowed purpose of passing a few selective college entrance tests, that is not what should be aspired to. The end result isn't education, but barely hidden social climbing. I've met and become friends with some of the products of this parenting style, and outside of knowing how to be good at academics, they were often either incredibly sheltered or psychological wrecks or both.
However, I do agree that parents would do well not to leave it all to schools (even private ones) and make an active effort to turn their children into well-rounded people by encouraging initiative, curiosity and exposing them to varied experiences, if they want to raise happy and well-rounded children.
"Tiger Mom" is a slur because they don't want you parenting your children. Any form of traditional parenting is seen as "toxic" or "abusive" parenting.
@@juniorjames7076 Once I have children, I plan on homeschooling them by teaching them by myself or hiring private tutors. I don't want to risk my children being brainwashed by the current education system.
@@2lxu from a young man in Scotland, I also am aiming for the same thing
So glad to see this covered. The amount of people under 30 who have no idea the education they got was crap compared to just a few decades before them is disturbingly high.
Also, the education back then had its flaws too, but damn it pales to the idiocy that passes for curriculum and the subterranean location of where the standard fell to.
The dumb usually don't know they're dumb. Especially when everyone around them tells them they are smart for going through life on rails known as college.
This reminds me of the Bertrand Russell quote that the United States is the one country where you can discuss philosophy with your taxi driver. Clearly things have changed since then.
Man you are giving hope through your videos! Thank you.
I remember that there were people who graduated high school around the same time as me who could barely read.
One of the reasons I often thought the results were poor is that the teachers spent nearly all their time talking about what political issue bothered them (and then assigned essays that were thinly veiled attempts to see if the students agreed with them) rather than making sure anyone was learning anything.
The result: Most did poorly, and only the ones who could manage to stay current with assignments and pretend to agree with the teachers politics would get a passing grade.
I'm guessing those teachers were leftists.
Im an antiquarian book seller and a young man of 27. I relate so much to your feelings about the soldiers. Seeing what people used to read and how much more sincere and sophisticated it was. I go into a book store now and its all gimicky joke books or ghoat written autobiographies of celebrities. Its quite upsetting but luckily im not short of good reading material
It brings me so much frustration when I go to my local library and I have to scrounge for a classic book or a history book when the shelves are laden with Celebrity biography, anti-current president, and romance novels. Its like a restaurant where everything tastes like ash
The way you wrote this post mimics your reading material
I feel this so much.
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Good to hear from other like minded yong people!
About 3 yeas ago, I started reading true classics and old writings. I also started to mark up the books I own; underlining powerful bits, writing thoughts in the margins (marginalia), and such.
My collection has since expanded, including ancient greek (Thucidides, Herodotus, Parmenides, Sapho, and any philosopher I can get my hands on), Ancient Roman (Seneca, Macrus Aurelius, Lucretious, Epictetus), Classical Liberal Philosophy (Locke, Payne, Mill, Boetie, Bastiat, etc), classic poetry (Shelly, Longfellow, Wordsworth, Byron, Dickinson) and so much more.
At this point, I have gotten so used to reading heady stuff that I read Thoreau for enjoyment! Before three years ago, I hardly read anything other than D&D books!
I feel like with every new book, I am rediscovering important cultural artifacts that have been lost in the noise of modern entertainment; a sort of cultural archeology.
My first son was born in 86, time for school rolled around and the school system said biys are usually slower so they dont enroll them until one year later. This didnt sit well so I home schooled him (I had sole custody since wife abandoned us). Years later, next wife, we had a daughter in 94. Her first year of school we had a parent teacher conference and the teacher gushed at how proud she was that they were tyrning our daughter into a good little citizen of the world. That and a few other incidents convinced us to home school her as well. In 96 our son was born and when his time for school came around the school system informed us that all boys would be tested and if necessary placed on medication and no, we didnt have a choice. So he was home schooled also. Long story short, all theee of them learned more, tested higher, and had a better more thorough complete education than they could have ever gotten from the public school system.
something i didnt see you tackle here is that in a world with so much abundance why do people need practical skills? why would a woman learn sewing if she can just by a new shirt when the old one brakes? why would a man learn carpeting if you can just buy a new chair? we live in a world where machines can do a lot of the work for us, i think one of the main reason why schools started to focus so much on subjects like math and sciences in the later half of the previous century was because we no longer needed people to work in the factories we needed people to make better machines to work the factories, so in a world like that why would a person need to learn practical skills?(i know the answer is very simple that world is about to end and where entering a new world but if we imagine that the world we live in today was going to keep going as it is then why learn practical skills?)
i forgot to add that i actually agree that the school system needs to change but in a world where everything is so automated i don't see how going back to learning practical skills is going to help people
I find it odd that people can be illiterate or incapable of math in a world with social media and constant transactions. I would think they would just learn it naturally, like shapes and colors
Woah, you don't pull your punches.
my experience with education is they dont focus on the figuring it out they focus on the explanation eg. 28 x 4 is 112 the answer cant be because it is it has to be explained.....then they would talk for 20 minutes about strategies when in reality it should just be trail and error in my opinion.... this is my thought process however i know others think differently..... also i dont blame kids today for having short attention spans when they have applications designed by gambling engineers ungoverned put in there hands by the age of 6
How many of those transactions require more than one click? They are doing 0 math. Everything is figured out by the computers, you put your card in and poof it's done. I've seen cashier's that cannot count money, not figure out change as the computer did that, physically count change. They don't know what a quarter is much less it's monetary value. When was the last time you sat down and figured up your own tax on goods before you ran to the register to pay, it's extremely uncommon! Most just put an item back when the tally is to high. You don't learn skills that you don't use. In a world where everything is being done for us by computers the skills behind it are fading. Kids don't even know how to make friends as they let social media do it for them. Speaking face to face? They just don't. They sit in groups texting each other. I've seen that one way to much. We are getting dumber because we are not using skills day to day. No one is using math to build their own home, it's bought already finished. No one is calculating costs, that's done by visa or vinmo🤣. No one is writing as our computer already has it covered. Now AI is doing the creative work of composing🤦. You learn what you practice. We are good at one click🤣.
One doesn't learn by osmosis, unless a natural bent exists.
I tutor a group of kids who are planning to go to college . Helping them bring up their writing skills. These kids have never read a book. They think nothing of cheating. Plagiarizing isn't seen as wrong. They have no idea what they're getting into.
My question is why would you NOT cheat? If the information isn't fundamentally useful what real incentive is there to learn it when it will never be used again.
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The information is useful. History, philosophy, and art are all necessary context for being a good citizen. Without sufficient exposure to those things, you fall victim to the overt idiocy we've been seeing. This is coming from a Physics grad student, not anything in the humanities.
@@ModuliOfRiemannSurfaces
as someone in the American Educational system, you don't learn those things, you learn what yiu're told too believe, anything else you prwtty much have too learn yourself by yourself.
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Are there not in principle papers and research projects where you have to do your own research and construct your own takes? I was homeschooled badly so I didn’t really have to grind things like that until community college so I’m not sure.
@@ModuliOfRiemannSurfaces we often make presentations with our own research, but those are all assighned both topic and opinion on it. We rarely present these though, they are usually google slides. Also Im not even joking I have had too make *two* about the effects of Climate change in the past week.
Excellent analysis and great bibliography!
Kid 1: We're playing WWII you have to play the Germans
Kid 2: Okay
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Kid 1: We're playing 1700s Strategic Operation! You have to play Barbary
Kid 2: Man I won't sink that low..
I've worked as an afterschool tutor for a few years and am constantly baffled at how behind students, even the hard-working and good-natured ones, are in so many subjects that they tend to understand quite quickly with just a decent explanation. My confusion was so great that i ended up just asking a few times what's going on in school and...well i'm not surprised but also very disappointed.
The current generation of school teachers aren't teaching a thing and instead spent most of their classroom hours ranting about their personal opinions on completely unrelated topics. Another issue i found is that most schools don't seem to actually teach how to write an essay over just telling students what type of essay they expect and just leaving the students on their own (my most commonly requested tutoring topic was essay writing, and for good reason).
Back when i was in high school, the "lazy teacher who did nothing and gave out free grades" was a very rare archetype because that kind of sloppy work behavior led to a quick firing. Said teachers also had the tendency to be pretty clever about hiding this from the rest of the faculty by getting on the kids' good sides and using artificial grade bump-ups as a bribe of sorts. Now, that seems to have become the norm but because standardized tests rat out that behavior quite efficiently, said norm has led to disastrous, obvious results for all to see.
Very true about the essay thing. One day I was told to write an essay and then years of only Grammer being corrected I could barely write a page in college. Writing essays is still a very daunting task for me.
Blame the GOP
GOP run states are shitholes. Mississippi is like Somalia!
What do you expect when an education degree has becone so easy to obtain that its a backup plan for those who fail out of thier first choice of degree
I think another key difference is that modern education has very little focus on trades. My school pushed a mentality that if you werent uni eligible academically then you werent worth as much effort. I think that some people who dont thrive in academic subejcts excell in trade ones. If you are going to be a plumber or electrician, a crucial job with highly valued skills, then you should get equal encouragement for that beyond a single "DT" subject. Maths and other skills like teamwork built up in PE or more "game" style lessons over "read and repeat" lectures are still incredibly useful, but at GCSE level you should be able to take less examinable subject such as clocking hours for a local electrician i.e. coursework, with proper protocols for such an appreniceship following. Tradie often make more money than uni students who go to standard paying corperate jobs with a boring work atmosphere and a huge student debt on their back. The richest guy on my road is a plunber/electrician and is raising like 4 kids whist having a job that is more satisfing of primal human instincts i.e. completing a physical job, applying skills, away from a computer screen and actually achieving a tangible result with your bare hands. Academia often leads to the genius that recarve society, but I dont think tradies should be disencouraged at all or seen as a lesser route.
In general having less academic studies in school might be better. Ugly ducklings can become swans ("dumb" people can go on to excell academically) but you cant make a pig a horse, so build a farm with a stable and a sty. Having less examined modules like including how taxes work, a guide of critical thinking, or 2-part prepare then debate aspects, would leave kids far happier and more passionate. No exam takes all the stress off, which society puts onto exams that are just a floating arbitray statistic once you get to the next acadmeic level. Kids can put passion in without worrying about technical "marking criteria" and individual flairs can appear.
Also English should be far more on how to read and enjoy it to your personal taste, how to speak and write articulately.
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You’re right on the mark. But trades training is widely denigrated in the suburbs where the one size fits all academic model of schooling prevails. It’s easier to find good trade schools at the secondary or high school level in big cities with more of a blue collar clientele.
And even my youngest son, who has "just" an associates degree, works in IT (where current certs matter more than the degree obtained from a university at some time in the past)--no student debt (grants paid for everything) and he's probably never going to really struggle to have a job. He has a friend who is a welder, so another skill-based field.
The school system didn't fail, it functions as intended.
It creates good little factory workers who don't question things.
Now that we're in the end game, people are waking up
Another outstanding video. Loved it.
Lowering standards to keep up the appearance of good teaching and a lack of discipline is contributing to this. My sister was an assistant at a preschool for a little bit. She told me stories of how the little monsters refused to behave in any way and were swearing like sailors. Even an attempt at disciplining any of them would result in an angry parent calling or showing up the next day.
Parents that won't parent and teachers that can't teach are causing this.
Yes indeed. In the current model of public schooling the parents and kids are treated like customers and as we all know, the customer is always right. In our hyper-commercialized society the kids sense that learning is not valued, and actually have no interest whatever in becoming truly literate. They envision themselves as ending up in sales of some sort and regard nerdy people primarily as being socially retarded.
It goes all the way up to High School levels with stuff like this happening. Imagine when they become “adults”?
Terrible time we’re going through, we can only hope that they don’t reproduce.
Consider that most people don't learn what they know from school. Most people learn what they know from 2 sources:
1) Stuff they are interested in (this probably applies to all of your history majors)
2) Stuff they need to learn for their job.
In school, if you aren't interested in it and it doesn't have anything to do with your job, you will learn it temporarily enough to pass the test. Then after that, you will forget about it.
These sets were also probably marketed (even in the 50's) to adults who enjoyed history and setting these up.
Oh may, I think this is the best video you've got, or from what I saw at least. I liked it, good job.