Hi I am 75 and used to fly large radio control war planes stopped as it got to expensive. Now I can fly my war plane’s sitting in them so to speak and crashes don’t cost me £££££ to fix .love your channel mate❤️❤️👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@@jimwhite3220 many thanks Jim! I well remember my dad swearing quietly as I pitched my 2 channel balsa trainer into the tarmac. That ended my model flying career!
Could not have put it better myself mate! Brilliant video in the best style + delivery! Flying in MSFS is so close to IRL flying but not everyone has the opportunity to actually fly a real warbird! I fly in DCS but not always for 'shooty'. The DCS mk9 is by far the most realistic representation other than the A2A in a sim. The Flyingiron Spitfire amongst their other aircraft are in my opinion the best way to enjoy MSFS - to challenge ourselves with these brilliant, complex & beautiful representations of piston powered, steam gauged, historical aircraft in highly accurate and realistic scenery.
Lovely video - as always! Let's face it - it's as close as many of us warbird nuts are likely to get to taxiing out a Spitfire on to Duxford's hallowed turf and doing a Ray Hanna...
I have to agree, there's something quite visceral about flying warbirds (especially in VR) that can't be matched by a GA aircraft. Plus there's no combat sim I know of that contains the entire world for you to roam around in...
I bought my glider from a syndicate that was based at Duxford. While there picking the glider up, 3 Spits took off together, circled the field, did a low pass, and then disappeared to the south. I later learned that they were on their way to do some filming work. Fantastic.
I like the view. In MSFS 2024 my favorite plane is the L-39 Albatros as fast sightseeing ride. 370 knots or so, your Spitfire will blow right by. A bit more complicated to start up, but very easy to fly. Looking forward to some more warbirds becoming available for MSFS 2024.
Low key love flying the p40 myself in msfs feels so anologe after flying all the modern stuff and makes you appreciate the young men that flew them and gives you the experience if what flying them in training or ferry flights would have been like
for me, it’s simply because these majestic machines can be revered and appreciated as aircraft, and not just as weapons with wings. i go to airshows to watch them fly and i would jump at the chance to experience flying in one. that’s all i’m after.
I see Mick is doing an update for Duxford for 2024, and there's a fix for the 2020 version. I use it all the time as I live just down the road from the real thing.
@ he certainly has, but kept it asan additional folder to give people the choice. You can download from here flightsim.to/file/22075/egsu-duxford-airshow-addon
I like flying the warbirds as well can’t wait when they release the Lancaster have not heard anything when they are releasing this awesome aircraft another good video
If you (Or anyone reading) is interested, the Spitfire and Hurricane Memorial Museum at Manston, has a Full sized Replica Lancaster cockpit that they've made into a simulator. It's only got a basic screen currently as they don't have a huge budget at a museum but it's the closest you can get to flying a Lancaster that's not the real thing currently. I had a go last year and loved it. They've also got a similar Spitfire simulator.
Being that I fly in DCS, I’ve never considered using anything military in MSFS. If someone is NOT involved with any other flight sim I would highly encourage them to try the warbirds. That are great to fly.
Absolutely the reason I won’t use them in msfs is the sheer lack of accuracy. Managing a Merlin engine or R2800 is only simulated in DCS. P47 etc are amazing.
Can't wait to see the authentikit build. I think I know what it is and it's really good. I built one....there's another one coming that's not trim wheel! 😮
Great video mate. To practice taildraggers in MSFS, the GotFriends Wilga is also an EXCELLENT choice. Do you also enjoy the FlyingIron P38L? I am going through a bit of a Japan phase now, but flying the Lightning in Japan felt like blasphemy lol, because of how many Japanese airplanes the Lightning shot down!
@@ovaldreamx4397 I would start with the FlyingIron Spit. It is also used by the RAF Battle of Britain Memorial Flight as a procedures/display area recce trainer.
Just a shame this is still the only aircraft I have in the sim that breaks the aircraft if you open the cockpit. Really surprised that flying iron haven't fixed that bug yet. Guessing you have damage switched off. But its still one of my most favourite aircraft to fly in the sim.
@@paulsleighty yes the MSFS damage is dodgy when using 3rd part aircraft that have their own damage built in. For this reason I never have or need the in built one.
In VR the Spitfire and the P-38 are by far my most flown planes. For something more modern it's the Harrier. I want to virtually fly these machines not kill stuff, plenty other games for that.
I like the challange of flying warbirds at first I thought can't shoot anyone or blow things up in the sim butttt the challange to fly around me local area is simply a blast. maybe a grp with warbirds can do an airshow perhaps for others.
@@mikecoffee100 I think the difficulty with airshows it is great flying them but not so good watching them in the sim perhaps. I think there os a virtual airshow once a year but I forget who organises it.
While it can be very satisfying getting a fully laden 747 in the air, they never really feel like living, breathing things. It's a bit like comparing a Kia to an XK120 in terms of emotional investment and reward. It's probably why I like 80s-90s era motorcycles as well, you have to ride them and respect them, or they bite.
I actually bought FS 2020 for warbirds etc. I thought the Asobo T6 was pretty good. I've flown one (FE511 of Hurricane Heritage) in real life and thought it came pretty close. It helps that there's a repaint available to make it look exactly like FE511. I haven't got the Tiger Moth yet but that's my next purchase as I have also flown one of those at Duxford. I've downloaded many UK airfields too including White Waltham and Duxford. I've been doing tours of the various aero museums that you can install in fs2020.
I pretty much only fly the older stuff in Microsoft Flight Simulator. I don't know the real flight patterns, so flying big passenger planes just feels weird to me haha. I'm an Il2 player as well. Il2 Cliffs of Dover is hard to keep the Spitfire cool while in a fight.
Warbirds are aviation, and MSFS is an aviation sim. From Duxford, it's no more unusual flying a Spitfire than taking off in a Cessna 172. :) By the way, the Land Warfare Hall is closing for demolition later this year. :(
I fly the Aeroplane Heaven Spitfire Mk 1. There is a fix for the rudder flipping to centre. Put both brakes on a spare Quadrant axis. As long as there is a touch of brakes, OFF RELEASED, the rudder works fine. IMHO, the Aerplane Heaven MkI is a better flyer than the FlyingIron Mk IX. Flight Replicas MkI flies OK, but they use the 'ASOBO P51 Reno' sound file. There is none of the lovely Merlin crackle at idle and low power. The FlyingIron I have has an Aileron Trim error, where it is trimmed Starboard at startup. The other nice Aeroplane for aerobatics is the IRIS Beechcraft Texan II. RAF training plane before the BAE Systems Hawk. I have the Navigraph Tablet moving map. As for Comms, there are the Yaesu handhelds. The ATC screen is on my right and I do click-to-tune, simulating pre-sets on the handheld. 7th September 2025, 'Battle of Britain' day at Duxford :-)
@@jameslee-pevenhull5087 I must admit I am not a fan of the AH MkI. Much prefer this FI one. The aileron trim is preset by the way. You can adjust it on tablet.
Warbirds are fantastic or I should say WW2 fighters are amazing. The engine management alone in an accurately simulated ww2 fighter is amazing. Likewise the ground handling is only accurate in DCS with none of the correct braking systems in use in MSFS. Tuppacks challenge of flying a real Spitfire or mosquito was the British brake system and it’s very different techniques required to use it. The dumbed down warbirds with basic ground handling and bullet proof engines needing almost no management to me make DCS the only option. In fact I rarely fly combat in them in DCS the challenges of getting a P-47 or Mosquito just into the air is a challenge. All the poor things about msfs come to the fore inaccurate taxiing and ground handling lack of engine management etc all make msfs a big no go for aircraft that require so much finesse and technique. If your missing all of the features of the real aircraft for me I see no point. I fly real aeroplanes and do not enjoy dumbed down versions when we have high fidelity models that accurately handle and need real world operating techniques. Not everyone needs that but that’s why we have DCS for those who want to experience reality in a multiplayer environment. BTW these aircraft where designed to be a weapon first no shooty shooty really makes them feel rather bland compared to firing a full salvo from a Mosquito. I recommend you try one of the DCS aircraft on a try before you buy it the free Mustang which comes with DCS for free. If you want a true warbird experience it’s very cheap ie free and considerably more challenging than what msfs provides. Enjoyed your video lovely Duxford scenery. Highly recommend taking the dCS Sputfire into the wW2 Normandy map and land at a forward airfield it’s about a thousand times more challenging than what msfs provides. Keep the good videos coming..
@@Scarebus_Driver I think you probably got bored and didn’t watch the whole video and missed a few things 😀. I do actually have DCS so understand what you are talking about. This video isn’t meant to be a why fly one instead of the other. It is ‘why do people fly warbirds in MSFS?’ Also I made the point in the video that, certainly this Spit anyway, uses differential braking to steer on the ground and also has some engine management built in. The other advantage of MSFS is that you can fly as a modern restoration warbird anywhere in the world, which was another reason I was giving. There are a lot of MSFS aircraft I don’t fly because they are unrealistic, but if this FI Spit in MSFS is good enough for the RAF BBMF then it’s good enough for me 😀
Why not. Most Spitfires flying now have been restored over the last 20 years or so and are a reminder to those brave people that through their actions have kept us alive today. But hang on, most simmers need an autopilot and a glass cockpit, so they arent for everyone, just pure aviators who appreciate the designs and their abilities.
@@martinpengelly9155 I honestly think if more people tried them they would ‘get it’ and you are right, they serve as a reminder of those that gave all.
The FlyingIron Spit has a simple autopilot on the EFB though. And I for one hate glass cockpits, haha. Spitfires are for those of us who love pure flying, with as few buttonpushes as possible.
Right , I joined your Discord channel as well. perhaps someone can help me for the life of me I cant do a loop in the FW190 I have emerg power and full power and go up and as I pull up and nose over I black out and comming out of as I reduce power am over the place but manage to straighten myself but does look like rather embarrasing. before I can do an airshow need to work on me skills.
It's a good question and I DO understand why people do it. But mostly (and this is my OPINION, not a fact), mostly I think it's a total waste of time. But again, fair winds to ye all. Enjoy, have fun!
My main choices from my hanger...Spirfire, Huricane, Corsair, P-51, BF-109, and my very favorite...P-38. I always ask myself...why would you want to fly a big airliner where you spend so much of your time drinking coffee and relaxing. That's not real flying, eh?
@@Dreamsofwings You need the Flying Irons P-38. Excellent work. I use the Glacier Girl Livery. am partial as I saw Glacier Girl when she was in pieces at the EAA Oshkosh airshow...then have seen her restored and flying several times at later shows. Yes...the P-38 is my favorite!
@@Dreamsofwings - I fly it from time to time and enjoy the comparatively easy tricycle-gear handling. But I've never enjoyed the complexity (as Col. Harold Rau of the USAAF 20th FG famously pointed out) - the fuel tank and pump management makes it feel more like a small airliner than a fighter. I guess that might explain some of its appeal to sim flyers who spend more time in GA or heavy iron. I'm always happy to come back to the extreme simplicity of the Spit (fuel on or off?) even if it's ill-tempered on the ground.
I fly warbirds most of time in fs2024 at least the ones that work only the spitfire. Hurricane and p47 seem to work ok in 2024 the P38. Fw190 and Me109G. P40 warhawk don't work well at all in fs2024 .I still.use fs 2020 on my xbox just for that reason all wsrbirds show pilots and work great in fs2020
It’s stupid. They’re planes, they fly, but their intended role is to be in a combat situation and utilized as such. Otherwise why not simply fly a C-172? This is just a money grab and why sims like IL-2 and DCS exist for these aircraft. In MSFS you’re relegated to running ferry flights or make believe air shows with military aircraft.
@@crackerbarrel6965 I guess the point I am making is that IRL these aircraft are flown in displays etc. and flying a Spitfire is a very different experience to flying a 172 but I guess this isn’t your thing.
Their intended role was once to be combat aircraft but not any more. None of the real life WW2 warbirds are flown in combat now and are flown for the fun of flying, either for pilots or taking paying passengers to enjoy them. Why not replicate that in a sim? They are nothing like a C-172 to fly. I'd say have a go, there are some excellent free warbirds you can try without it costing you a thing. Don't knock it until you've tried it. 🙂
@@rcpilot9963 i don’t fly the stock P-51 in MSFS as it isn’t great. This isn’t meant to be a comparison between why you should fly one or the other, it is simply why do people fly warbirds in MSFS. If the flyingiron Spit is good enough for the RAF BBMF to use then it’s good enough for me 👍🏻
@@tim-3705 yes not saying that isn’t an option, just answering the question about flying them in MSFS when there isn’t anything to shoot at. This isn’t a ‘you should do this instead of that’ kind of video.
@@Dreamsofwings Thats not how i meant it, i was just wondering cause i have never seen you trying dcs. Maybe my comment was a bit on the rude side. Sorry for that.
@ oh not at all, I’ve just never really gotten into DCS ( there is one vid on the channel lol ) but I know it’s my loss. Just not really into combat sims.
@@Nor0252 I have both too, your preference is up to you. The flight model tho, is objectively more accurate in dcs. And to my opinion, Many aircraft except for a handfull, feel floaty and unrealistic. Especially msfs 2025. And about the senery, i always play in vr. Msfs on medium to low looks worse then DCS cause the performance is just not there. but eventually it is what you enjoy more. :)
@@chrisgard4076 Copy the sound folder of the P-51D and paste to the same location of the Flyingiron, and then drag-and-drop the Layout.json file (of the Spit) onto the MSFSLayoutgenerator.exe file. (A new Layout.json file will then be created).
Nah, still don't get it MSFS flight models are pretty lame and half the fun is pushing a plane to the limit - the on/off failure mode of MSFS is one of its biggest weaknesses and diminishes the experience compared to a flight sim with actual failure modes
Hi I am 75 and used to fly large radio control war planes stopped as it got to expensive. Now I can fly my war plane’s sitting in them so to speak and crashes don’t cost me £££££ to fix .love your channel mate❤️❤️👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@@jimwhite3220 many thanks Jim! I well remember my dad swearing quietly as I pitched my 2 channel balsa trainer into the tarmac. That ended my model flying career!
@@DreamsofwingsMy first RC helicopter flew exactly once before it died an impressive death.
Could not have put it better myself mate! Brilliant video in the best style + delivery! Flying in MSFS is so close to IRL flying but not everyone has the opportunity to actually fly a real warbird! I fly in DCS but not always for 'shooty'. The DCS mk9 is by far the most realistic representation other than the A2A in a sim. The Flyingiron Spitfire amongst their other aircraft are in my opinion the best way to enjoy MSFS - to challenge ourselves with these brilliant, complex & beautiful representations of piston powered, steam gauged, historical aircraft in highly accurate and realistic scenery.
@@AJL_UK many thanks my friend! I really do need to reinstall DCS and give that Spit another try.
Lovely video - as always!
Let's face it - it's as close as many of us warbird nuts are likely to get to taxiing out a Spitfire on to Duxford's hallowed turf and doing a Ray Hanna...
@@benholmes1608 many thanks Ben and you are absolutely right!
Another excellent video, thank you! It really is a joy to watch and listen to you, so relaxing. Brilliant demo of the wonderful Spitfire 😍
Thanks so much mate, and thanks again for giving us all a sim home! 🍻
Finally another Warbird video, great job as always!
Many thanks mate! 🍻
I have to agree, there's something quite visceral about flying warbirds (especially in VR) that can't be matched by a GA aircraft. Plus there's no combat sim I know of that contains the entire world for you to roam around in...
@@AndrewBrowneABF81 yes that is very true.
I bought my glider from a syndicate that was based at Duxford. While there picking the glider up, 3 Spits took off together, circled the field, did a low pass, and then disappeared to the south. I later learned that they were on their way to do some filming work. Fantastic.
@@delboy1727 what a wonderful sight that would have been!
Beautiful landing, good job, good video thank you 👍
@@ZenonZolek many thanks! 🍻
Great vid mate, keep up the awesome work 🍻
@aidonatorgaming27 many thanks!
@Dreamsofwings 🍻
Lovely Video! Thanks again for sharing this with us and congrats to your new discord! Are you using only Accuseason? Really nice colors.
Hi Thomas, many thanks! Yes this is just Accuseason in here. Interested to see what it can do in 2024
Well done!
Many thanks!
I love flying Warbirds in MSFS. We have some amazing Warbirds available too, including the Spitfire you are flying today.
Yes there is a good selection isn't there
I like the view. In MSFS 2024 my favorite plane is the L-39 Albatros as fast sightseeing ride. 370 knots or so, your Spitfire will blow right by. A bit more complicated to start up, but very easy to fly.
Looking forward to some more warbirds becoming available for MSFS 2024.
I love this plane greetings from Norway🎉
Super! Great landing - thanks for posting
@@bobhundley9295 many thanks!
Low key love flying the p40 myself in msfs feels so anologe after flying all the modern stuff and makes you appreciate the young men that flew them and gives you the experience if what flying them in training or ferry flights would have been like
Yes very true!
for me, it’s simply because these majestic machines can be revered and appreciated as aircraft, and not just as weapons with wings. i go to airshows to watch them fly and i would jump at the chance to experience flying in one. that’s all i’m after.
@@goalski134 very well said sir!
Been a while since I’ve seen a spitfire on your channel
I see Mick is doing an update for Duxford for 2024, and there's a fix for the 2020 version. I use it all the time as I live just down the road from the real thing.
@@ukar69 yes thankfully Mick’s Duxford is working a treat in 2024, we just need the warbirds updating for it now 👍🏻
Has Mick also done the crowd and hurricanes line up ?
@ he certainly has, but kept it asan additional folder to give people the choice. You can download from here flightsim.to/file/22075/egsu-duxford-airshow-addon
I do wish the Duxford dload would come to the Xbox.
Do you know if it will at all in the future?
@@hill1975 I would say it is unlikely until Asobo provide a way for Xbox users to access freeware like this.
It's a pretty easy answer really. Real warbirds fly around in non-shooty airspace. Next question.
I like flying the warbirds as well can’t wait when they release the Lancaster have not heard anything when they are releasing this awesome aircraft another good video
Many thanks!
If you (Or anyone reading) is interested, the Spitfire and Hurricane Memorial Museum at Manston, has a Full sized Replica Lancaster cockpit that they've made into a simulator. It's only got a basic screen currently as they don't have a huge budget at a museum but it's the closest you can get to flying a Lancaster that's not the real thing currently. I had a go last year and loved it. They've also got a similar Spitfire simulator.
Being that I fly in DCS, I’ve never considered using anything military in MSFS. If someone is NOT involved with any other flight sim I would highly encourage them to try the warbirds. That are great to fly.
Absolutely the reason I won’t use them in msfs is the sheer lack of accuracy. Managing a Merlin engine or R2800 is only simulated in DCS. P47 etc are amazing.
Superb landing :-)
@@jameslee-pevenhull5087 many thanks 🍻
Can't wait to see the authentikit build. I think I know what it is and it's really good. I built one....there's another one coming that's not trim wheel! 😮
Thanks! Yes the trim wheel build was interesting but this will be very exciting to use having tried it in the BBMF simulator
Great video mate. To practice taildraggers in MSFS, the GotFriends Wilga is also an EXCELLENT choice.
Do you also enjoy the FlyingIron P38L? I am going through a bit of a Japan phase now, but flying the Lightning in Japan felt like blasphemy lol, because of how many Japanese airplanes the Lightning shot down!
Many thanks! I have to be honest I rarely fly the P38L. Most of the time I am in the Spit or the Hellcat
In your opinion, whats the most realistic warbird available for msfs2020? Gonna try to finally learn one
@@ovaldreamx4397 I would start with the FlyingIron Spit. It is also used by the RAF Battle of Britain Memorial Flight as a procedures/display area recce trainer.
The Flyingiron lineup is really nice. I fly the 109 daily and their aircraft seem to match the manuals and performance numbers.
Just a shame this is still the only aircraft I have in the sim that breaks the aircraft if you open the cockpit.
Really surprised that flying iron haven't fixed that bug yet.
Guessing you have damage switched off.
But its still one of my most favourite aircraft to fly in the sim.
@@paulsleighty yes the MSFS damage is dodgy when using 3rd part aircraft that have their own damage built in. For this reason I never have or need the in built one.
In VR the Spitfire and the P-38 are by far my most flown planes. For something more modern it's the Harrier. I want to virtually fly these machines not kill stuff, plenty other games for that.
@@cammy9r I can see there is a lot of love for the P-38. I think I’ve probably forgotten about it for too long!
@@Dreamsofwings The scale of it is great in VR and it can cruise for ages.
@ yes would be a great one to to a circumnavigation in.
Nice video!!!
How do you get that "spectator cam"?
Is that thanks to some kind of replay?
Many thanks! Yes exactly, I use Sky Dolly to record the flying then reply in drone view.
@Dreamsofwings many thanks for your swift reply!!!
Happy new year BTW... 😉
No problem at all, Happy New Year! 🍻
I like the challange of flying warbirds at first I thought can't shoot anyone or blow things up in the sim butttt the challange to fly around me local area is simply a blast. maybe a grp with warbirds can do an airshow perhaps for others.
@@mikecoffee100 I think the difficulty with airshows it is great flying them but not so good watching them in the sim perhaps. I think there os a virtual airshow once a year but I forget who organises it.
I love flying the spit in msfs, even on Vatsim…. 😮
@@ztublackstaff nice change for the controller too!
Compatible pour MFS 2024 ? Merci
@@banebane1138 Malheureusement, le Spitfire n'est pas complètement prêt dans MSFS 2024. Le décor de Duxford a cependant été mis à jour pour 2024.
I also thought that way however it is very enjoyable without FBW
While it can be very satisfying getting a fully laden 747 in the air, they never really feel like living, breathing things. It's a bit like comparing a Kia to an XK120 in terms of emotional investment and reward. It's probably why I like 80s-90s era motorcycles as well, you have to ride them and respect them, or they bite.
I actually bought FS 2020 for warbirds etc. I thought the Asobo T6 was pretty good. I've flown one (FE511 of Hurricane Heritage) in real life and thought it came pretty close. It helps that there's a repaint available to make it look exactly like FE511. I haven't got the Tiger Moth yet but that's my next purchase as I have also flown one of those at Duxford. I've downloaded many UK airfields too including White Waltham and Duxford. I've been doing tours of the various aero museums that you can install in fs2020.
@@marcwaller3657 sounds great!
I pretty much only fly the older stuff in Microsoft Flight Simulator. I don't know the real flight patterns, so flying big passenger planes just feels weird to me haha. I'm an Il2 player as well. Il2 Cliffs of Dover is hard to keep the Spitfire cool while in a fight.
Warbirds are aviation, and MSFS is an aviation sim. From Duxford, it's no more unusual flying a Spitfire than taking off in a Cessna 172. :) By the way, the Land Warfare Hall is closing for demolition later this year. :(
@@paulkirkland3263 very true.
I fly the Aeroplane Heaven Spitfire Mk 1.
There is a fix for the rudder flipping to centre.
Put both brakes on a spare Quadrant axis. As long as there is a touch of brakes, OFF RELEASED, the rudder works fine.
IMHO, the Aerplane Heaven MkI is a better flyer than the FlyingIron Mk IX.
Flight Replicas MkI flies OK, but they use the 'ASOBO P51 Reno' sound file. There is none of the lovely Merlin crackle at idle and low power.
The FlyingIron I have has an Aileron Trim error, where it is trimmed Starboard at startup.
The other nice Aeroplane for aerobatics is the IRIS Beechcraft Texan II. RAF training plane before the BAE Systems Hawk.
I have the Navigraph Tablet moving map.
As for Comms, there are the Yaesu handhelds. The ATC screen is on my right and I do click-to-tune, simulating pre-sets on the handheld.
7th September 2025, 'Battle of Britain' day at Duxford :-)
@@jameslee-pevenhull5087 I must admit I am not a fan of the AH MkI. Much prefer this FI one. The aileron trim is preset by the way. You can adjust it on tablet.
Do you still fly these warbirds with MSFS2020 or is this MSFS2024? As I saw weeks ago, there are still problems with FlyingIrons birds in MSFS2024..
no this is in 2020, waiting for the FI 2024 Spit update
Hopefully the bf109 and fw190 are both available soon for msfs2024
Yes love that 190
Warbirds are fantastic or I should say WW2 fighters are amazing. The engine management alone in an accurately simulated ww2 fighter is amazing. Likewise the ground handling is only accurate in DCS with none of the correct braking systems in use in MSFS. Tuppacks challenge of flying a real Spitfire or mosquito was the British brake system and it’s very different techniques required to use it. The dumbed down warbirds with basic ground handling and bullet proof engines needing almost no management to me make DCS the only option. In fact I rarely fly combat in them in DCS the challenges of getting a P-47 or Mosquito just into the air is a challenge. All the poor things about msfs come to the fore inaccurate taxiing and ground handling lack of engine management etc all make msfs a big no go for aircraft that require so much finesse and technique.
If your missing all of the features of the real aircraft for me I see no point.
I fly real aeroplanes and do not enjoy dumbed down versions when we have high fidelity models that accurately handle and need real world operating techniques. Not everyone needs that but that’s why we have DCS for those who want to experience reality in a multiplayer environment. BTW these aircraft where designed to be a weapon first no shooty shooty really makes them feel rather bland compared to firing a full salvo from a Mosquito. I recommend you try one of the DCS aircraft on a try before you buy it the free Mustang which comes with DCS for free. If you want a true warbird experience it’s very cheap ie free and considerably more challenging than what msfs provides. Enjoyed your video lovely Duxford scenery. Highly recommend taking the dCS Sputfire into the wW2 Normandy map and land at a forward airfield it’s about a thousand times more challenging than what msfs provides. Keep the good videos coming..
@@Scarebus_Driver I think you probably got bored and didn’t watch the whole video and missed a few things 😀. I do actually have DCS so understand what you are talking about. This video isn’t meant to be a why fly one instead of the other. It is ‘why do people fly warbirds in MSFS?’ Also I made the point in the video that, certainly this Spit anyway, uses differential braking to steer on the ground and also has some engine management built in. The other advantage of MSFS is that you can fly as a modern restoration warbird anywhere in the world, which was another reason I was giving. There are a lot of MSFS aircraft I don’t fly because they are unrealistic, but if this FI Spit in MSFS is good enough for the RAF BBMF then it’s good enough for me 😀
Why not. Most Spitfires flying now have been restored over the last 20 years or so and are a reminder to those brave people that through their actions have kept us alive today. But hang on, most simmers need an autopilot and a glass cockpit, so they arent for everyone, just pure aviators who appreciate the designs and their abilities.
@@martinpengelly9155 I honestly think if more people tried them they would ‘get it’ and you are right, they serve as a reminder of those that gave all.
The FlyingIron Spit has a simple autopilot on the EFB though. And I for one hate glass cockpits, haha. Spitfires are for those of us who love pure flying, with as few buttonpushes as possible.
Question - Why Fly Warbirds in Microsoft Flight Simulator Me - Because I can :)
@@tass9329 nicely put
Right , I joined your Discord channel as well. perhaps someone can help me for the life of me I cant do a loop in the FW190 I have emerg power and full power and go up and as I pull up and nose over I black out and comming out of as I reduce power am over the place but manage to straighten myself but does look like rather embarrasing. before I can do an airshow need to work on me skills.
@@mikecoffee100 See you on the Discord!
All old warbirds are flown in real life with no pow pow. So doing it In the sim isn't actually non realistic.
@@AirspotterUK exactly!
It's a good question and I DO understand why people do it. But mostly (and this is my OPINION, not a fact), mostly I think it's a total waste of time.
But again, fair winds to ye all. Enjoy, have fun!
My main choices from my hanger...Spirfire, Huricane, Corsair, P-51, BF-109, and my very favorite...P-38. I always ask myself...why would you want to fly a big airliner where you spend so much of your time drinking coffee and relaxing. That's not real flying, eh?
@@jerrydeanswanson79 I need to spend some more time in the P-38 clearly!
@@Dreamsofwings You need the Flying Irons P-38. Excellent work. I use the Glacier Girl Livery. am partial as I saw Glacier Girl when she was in pieces at the EAA Oshkosh airshow...then have seen her restored and flying several times at later shows. Yes...the P-38 is my favorite!
I’ve got it but just never get the urge to fly it. Will have to spend more time with it.
@@Dreamsofwings - I fly it from time to time and enjoy the comparatively easy tricycle-gear handling. But I've never enjoyed the complexity (as Col. Harold Rau of the USAAF 20th FG famously pointed out) - the fuel tank and pump management makes it feel more like a small airliner than a fighter. I guess that might explain some of its appeal to sim flyers who spend more time in GA or heavy iron. I'm always happy to come back to the extreme simplicity of the Spit (fuel on or off?) even if it's ill-tempered on the ground.
the better question, why Fly any war plane when you can't use it for what it was designed for?
Reason as explained in the video 🤣
I fly warbirds most of time in fs2024 at least the ones that work only the spitfire. Hurricane and p47 seem to work ok in 2024 the P38. Fw190 and Me109G. P40 warhawk don't work well at all in fs2024 .I still.use fs 2020 on my xbox just for that reason all wsrbirds show pilots and work great in fs2020
@@earlworthington263 ah thats a shame about the FW 190. I hadn’t tried it yet. Glad I left 2020 on my machine! 🤣
Why? Because MSFS has overall better graphics, terrain, working ATC, airfield, world map, turbulence...
cool but no shootie is a lose for me. I prefer DCS World
It’s stupid. They’re planes, they fly, but their intended role is to be in a combat situation and utilized as such. Otherwise why not simply fly a C-172? This is just a money grab and why sims like IL-2 and DCS exist for these aircraft. In MSFS you’re relegated to running ferry flights or make believe air shows with military aircraft.
@@crackerbarrel6965 I guess the point I am making is that IRL these aircraft are flown in displays etc. and flying a Spitfire is a very different experience to flying a 172 but I guess this isn’t your thing.
Their intended role was once to be combat aircraft but not any more. None of the real life WW2 warbirds are flown in combat now and are flown for the fun of flying, either for pilots or taking paying passengers to enjoy them. Why not replicate that in a sim? They are nothing like a C-172 to fly. I'd say have a go, there are some excellent free warbirds you can try without it costing you a thing. Don't knock it until you've tried it. 🙂
Dcs and his warbirds has more realistic FM than Mfs2020 and 2024. Try to fly DCS P-51 and than compare it to stock P-51 from Mfs2024, meh.
@@rcpilot9963 i don’t fly the stock P-51 in MSFS as it isn’t great. This isn’t meant to be a comparison between why you should fly one or the other, it is simply why do people fly warbirds in MSFS. If the flyingiron Spit is good enough for the RAF BBMF to use then it’s good enough for me 👍🏻
Why not fly the spitfire in DCS? the flight model is a million times better in that sim.
@@tim-3705 yes not saying that isn’t an option, just answering the question about flying them in MSFS when there isn’t anything to shoot at. This isn’t a ‘you should do this instead of that’ kind of video.
No it is not that much better in DCS. I have both, and prefer the MSFS version. And the scenery is WAY better here.
@@Dreamsofwings Thats not how i meant it, i was just wondering cause i have never seen you trying dcs. Maybe my comment was a bit on the rude side. Sorry for that.
@ oh not at all, I’ve just never really gotten into DCS ( there is one vid on the channel lol ) but I know it’s my loss. Just not really into combat sims.
@@Nor0252 I have both too, your preference is up to you. The flight model tho, is objectively more accurate in dcs. And to my opinion, Many aircraft except for a handfull, feel floaty and unrealistic. Especially msfs 2025. And about the senery, i always play in vr. Msfs on medium to low looks worse then DCS cause the performance is just not there. but eventually it is what you enjoy more. :)
i used to fly the Spit all the time but MSFS2024 BROKE the engine sounds an so far no fix BUMMER
@@chrisgard4076 yeah apparently a new 24 version is on the way. In the meantime I’m just loading up 2020 lol
I use the P-51D Asobo sound from FS20 on it in FS24, easy to fix.
@ ah good idea
@@Nor0252 wanna share how???
@@chrisgard4076 Copy the sound folder of the P-51D and paste to the same location of the Flyingiron, and then drag-and-drop the Layout.json file (of the Spit) onto the MSFSLayoutgenerator.exe file. (A new Layout.json file will then be created).
Nah, still don't get it MSFS flight models are pretty lame and half the fun is pushing a plane to the limit - the on/off failure mode of MSFS is one of its biggest weaknesses and diminishes the experience compared to a flight sim with actual failure modes