I've made copper coils out of tubing and if you fill the tubing with sugar or salt before bending it will hold a circular cross section in tight bends as opposed to flattening out or kinking. I use salt or sugar because it packs well (using vibration from an Oral B toothbrush) and can be removed using water after the bend is completed.
I used cooper tubing before and at higher temperatures corroded inside, and the flakes clogged the burner nozel. Recommend using stainless steel tubing, the best place is brake lines for the car. Cheers the best idea ever
jumped in to comment this. That copper will melt in no time, its already cherry red. Secondly I thought this was going to be a burner where the warm air, or a closed liquid system heated the coils to use inside. What is this even for?
@@werewolf74 The coils are to preheat the liquid inside, since it's very clear that the tubes get red hot, the effect happening in the tubing is called gasification, where the then liquid gasoline turns into gas and is then burn in the nozzle, I think it also helps counter act the heat going to the walls of the burner, since it will now be somewhat consumed by the fuel (by the way, this method is used in some rocket engines, where the fuel is liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen, which have way more cooling power).
If you fill the copper tube with sand first and flatten the ends you bend without worrying it will kink or crush. Really awesome flame from what you have built. what a beast!
WOULDNT A TUBING BENDER BE LESS TROUBLE,IM THINKING GETTING ALL THAT SAND INTO THEN BACK OUT OF THE TUBING,ESPECIALLY AFTER SHAPING WILL BE A HEADACHE. RIGHT?? IDK,IVE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT A BUILD LIKE THIS. ALL THE BEST TO YOU!
@@jiwbink I agree with what you are saying my friend. This is what I thought when my friend suggested it to me some years ago. As long as you use fine, dry sand when you open the ends up all you do is tap the tube and the sand begins to run out. Bending does compress the sand but it isn't too much trouble and the result is very good.
@@gargoyleking529 frozen water, or ice. Liquid water would require a pressure secure seal on both ends and absolutely no air. Water doesn't compress so bending the tube increases internal pressure.
I can't say that I hold out much hope for the crystal structure of that copper that you're heating to Cherry red (and near the burner to yellow). As a bit of fun it was very impressive - as a heater, I wouldn't go within 20 feet of it.
@@mcprotec2246 I believe all the posts by this fellow is a troll on DIY enthusiasts especially this one, absolutely crazy, wrong, unsafe and in fact dangerous on many counts.
The reason there's no pressure and why you can't regulate the flame is because the valve is before the coil. If you put a valve after the coil but before it's burnt the pressure will increase according to the valve position. But be careful of the pressure, or it might explode.
For shure you should check your valves not to contain any plastic If you want to use otnon the HOT PRESSURE side! Youndont want a sudden clowd of explosive gass escaping all at a sudden. I believe water to steam is an increase in vollume of 30x
@@Doctor-Robo have in count that if you reduce the pressure from one end of the coil it will escape from the other end increasing the pressure on the fuel tank
I believe you'd get more control over flow if you used a gate valve instead of a ball valve. That's what I was always told with hydronic hvac systems at work anyway, ball valves are a simple on/off, gate valves allow you to fine tune flow. Also, on my antique blowtorches I notice the ones with thicker metal on the nozzle tend to work better, i'm guessing because the extra metal can store more heat there. Your design here is very similar to, and superior to, an old lead smelting furnace I have. One really cool idea I saw in another video; using an ultrasonic fogger like one found in a humidifier can be used to vaporize fuel before combustion. Love your videos, can't wait to see what you come up with next.
The concept is quite similar to the way the Alladin lamps were built in the UK in 1800's. Worked well for them so I think this should work very well as a heater, I think it would be better to have the fuel reserve further from the flame though?
Petrol and diesel only need a couple of hundred degrees maximum, to get vaporisation. Normally the pressurisation would come from a separate piston pump. I'm not sure how safe it is to pass the fuel through a red hot pipe, but I guess it is safe enough all the time there is no path to get additional oxygen inside the fuel vessel..... Otherwise it would be a 200kw burner for a very short period of time!😳😲😯😮🔥🤣
So good to see your videos where you use 'best practices' - Cutting fluid when drilling, good tapping technique. etc. I've seen so many vids where they don't use any lube, and/or just keep cranking the tap/die without ever backing off to clear chips Thanks for posting this.
Thank you! I like to communicate with the viewers of the channel, I like to be useful to people and maybe my ideas will push someone to their own ideas. Or maybe someone will find a hobby and become the new Einstein.
Ahhh 🙂 I can definitely see great uses for this. I need something like this for the burning of methane and HHO. I wanna make one small with multiple outputs to drive a heat pump system like a steam engine rig, or to run sterling engines.
I want to do the same, the problem is hho burns extremely quickly which would blow back to the container? It also burns 2500c so it would melt the copper, there's a video on here of a guy that made an hho burner with a syringe needle and it could melt steel, to make a boiler you'd need to find a way of making a very small, but, powerful flame to do a lot of work, so you'd need a heat exchanger that would need to withstand immense heat that could pass a reasonable amount of water through to heat it or similarly with an element type deal, it's doable, but getting the nozzle reliable is critical in a low maintenance setup
you now need the copper coil burner to be surrounded with a heat sink, vented brake disks stacked on top of each other with a thick steel lid is what most people use, the radiant heat is much better, and a lot safer than exposed flames, and they look really cool painted up with HTP.
Honestly surprised the the copper tubing wouldn't melt. Cool vid. Maybe stainless brake tubing, if it would? It will wear your hands out making the coil, but should last longer and take higher heat, but won't transfer heat as good as the copper. Cute dog, cheers.
@@howardosborne8647 buddy, I really don't have time for tards who just looked something up and think they know. Put it in a box, ie, use it to heat something, and it will reflect and make the local temperature high enough to melt it. Try it.
@Howard I was taught by welders and plumbers that making the copper that hot won't melt it necessarily, but it reduces the strength of the copper walls and become chalky and brittle after a few intense cycles.... I'm not a metallurgist by any means but is that not true? Genuinely wondering. 👍
For people wondering how this works… the same principle is still used in basic self-priming camp stoves, and in other low-tech devices. It can be very effective…. Look up how to make an alcohol stove out of a soda can. As Boy Scouts we made them all the time. Called “penny stoves” because a coin is used to regulate the pressure. 🔥 1. Prime it: Liquid fuel is put into a container that can hold necessary pressure. Then liquid fuel it is heated up by an outside source (like a fire) until it turns into high pressure gas fuel. 2. The new high pressure gas that wants to escape. (it does not explode inside his pipe coil because there is not enough oxygen in there to burn … but if the pressure container failed, there would be a tremendous and dangerous explosion ⚠️) 3. The high pressure gas created now escapes from an orifice of some kind and is ignited by you with a match, or more commonly, by the priming process itself. 4. The burning high pressure gas is now designed in such a way so as to preheat and vaporize its own liquid fuel source independently. …. This is why his big flame needs to blast through his copper coil. It must vaporize the liquid behind it. The whole process creates a cycle of pressure and combustion that will continue on forever, or in reality, until the liquid fuel source is either closed off or is completely consumed.
Cool idea, one thought though, I’d invest in a good carbon monoxide detector (when operating in closed environments, outside no worries) rule of thumb, if it burns oxygen it creates noxious gases. But, I like it for many uses and I’ve been a HVAC contractor for a hell of a lot longer than I’d care to admit.
You can protect that orifice from debris with a copper spun filter drier used in refrigeration systems. Cut it in half and empty out the silica beads, then braze it back together. Super fine mesh metal screen in filter.👍
@@Doctor-Robo And it isn't as if you need to go buy a new one. All refrigerators have that device and the greater majority of them will appear absolutely clean inside, regardless of the outer appearance. A film of light oil may be what you will run across, easily removed.👍
@TroniX FiX it has it somewhere. It will be at the final end of the condensing side of the system. All systems of the evaporative type need to protect the capillary tube from debris, thus the ultra fine mesh screen. As well, the silica beads adsorb, yes adsorb any remaining water molecules present after evacuation. But don't mess with it! Anyway I've worked on many samsung units, and believe me, it's there somewhere.
Add afterburner in the form of steel mesh stretching far above from the coil.The flame will get even higher and will burn the rest of the gases that didn't burn when inside the coil or are a product of the inside-coil burn (like CO for example).
@Burnt Kitty Forge something like that. I was under impression that mantle only glows from heat and that is its only function. The afterburner I proposed would keep some heat inside and use additional oxygen to burn remaining flammable particles/gases. Ideally air coming to it would be already heated. Afterburner seems to be better name, although maybe they are the same.
I'd like to see the video of you making this again using the input from the comments. A version of this with an adjustable flame would be incredibly valuable.
the tubewinding and the tube could be more smal and narrow so it will start quicker or could also run with kitchen oil. also a variable nozzle or exchaingeable nozzle option for different kinds of fuel... and a starter candle should be good thing to add. ...
I don't agree. First he put teflon tape to seal,the tape is to be used fot plastic fittings,not for metals,because it getts riped at screw.Between metal fittings needs to be used teflon line.
@@Doctor-Robo 8 I've used that sealer before .being old school , the directions threw me back a little.about no air, to seal, it was fancy stuff for me.keep it up , I have a. Old orchard smudge pot ,I need to post,it's 😎 cool.
This is great, modern old tech is way. With modern manufacturing process and types of material I think some of the old world tech is very applicable to today's world.
@Burnt Kitty Forge Yeah I was thinking about stuff from Swagelok but very expensive, even though it's really good and u can buy it in an annealed state and easy to bend; make all the joints by simply buying the joints and use their one way valve to prevent pressure blow back into tank, although it can only work that valve if it is vertical. Too expensive though. i used to use their stuff heaps when i worked at various unis but then I wasn't paying for it personally. The brewing supply alternative sounds much better!
The idea is interesting, and I suppose works well in theory (short term). I don't think it's sustainable to heat copper to such high temperatures for long periods of time though. This will eventually go boom.
put some safety fail safe in there if you can otherwise might go boom if it melts down if possible do a safety check in a blast proof container or safe location make a second device and run it until failure just so you can improve upon the safety and longevity of your device you made
If you twist the copper pipe outside a iron tube and just let it stay on, you will get a much longer lifespan out of the copper. Sure it will take a little while longer to heat up, but it will last much longer.
este es la verdadera receta de un generador uroboro, esto simboliza realmente el dragon que muerde su propia cola o que la quema. yo estoy seguro, calentar el propio recipiente que contiene el combustible, tambien estoy seguro que los hebreos lograron hacer funcionar esta receta con sus lamparas de aceite, gracias a ellas no se quedaban sin iluminacion, aunque es cierto que emite monoxido constantemente. gracias por el video, maravillosa tu obra, te deseo lo mejor, ojala sigas subiendo contenido asi de bonito.
На внутренней поверхности раскалённой трубки происходит крекинг углеводородов. Если часть образующегося углерода будет формировать механически прочный слой, трубка рано или поздно засорится.
The gas tank is tightly closed or it has an air breather to ensure sufficient oil flow supply. If there is no air breather, I believe the tank will have a vacuum effect
Tick workshop- i’d like to see how it was when you get it to operate perfectly for your purposes. It would also be nice to hear about the adjustments that I took to get it to that point. A very interesting experiment. I had something tangentially related in my own mind just this afternoon. So it would have been all the more relating to see this work for you. Thank you for sharing. It takes a particular kind of courage and integrity to show the experiments that don’t turn out exactly the way that a person would like.
Thanks a lot! I will be glad if you become a regular subscriber! After the experiment, it turned out what was needed - a stainless steel tube would be much better. And you need to put a small air pump into the fuel tank for the initial start. You also need a needle tap (valve) to adjust the flame.
@@Doctor-Robo : I’ll have to look at your channel before I do that. There are so many people that are asking for subscribers, and only so much time in the day to watch content, So my general policy is to find channels that are directly related to practical things in my life. To the best of my memory this is the first of your videos that has come into my feed; it was extremely interesting, so of course I’ll be glad to have a look and see what other content you have. If it turns out that your ideas which generally work to help level my own up, of course I will be super glad to sub. I’ll have a look and see if I can find the updated video for this one, Where you got it working exactly the way you wanted. Thank you so much for getting back to me.
Very impressive flame. I would put a one-way valve in the tubing right where you connect the plastic line. Weld, not solder but weld, a Y joint to the one way fitting and install a needle valve to control the fuel feed. Make the rubber fuel line from an automobile duty hose with braided stainless steel covering. I know you are trying to make this on a budget but there are a few safety steps you really should consider.
My dog was cold and I picked her up in my arms to keep her warm. This is a hunting breed of dog and this coat can be lifted by the withers, it does not hurt her! Many animals carry their babies in this way, it's natural.
Dachshunds are prone to crippling/painful/expensive to treat intervertebral disc disease. IVDD affect approximately 20% of Dachshunds and is when the intervertebral discs bulge and compress on the spinal cord nerves often resulting in paralysis, crippling pain, incontinence. Surgery is often required and can easily cost $6-10K. Picking her up by the scruff leaves her back fully unsupported and puts her at risk for back/disc issues Especially if she twists her back or struggles in the least while you are scruffing her, this injury could easily occur. A better way to pick her up is to fully support her legs and body with one arm while cradling her with the other.
I am leaving the video now too. You don't leave a dog outside that long that's its freezing and then pick it up by the neck like it's still a tiny puppy. These people are primitive. Also I can't handle robot voice not one minute.
You are right, but the pressure in the fuel tank is very low, you can see it on the pressure gauge in the video. In the last video in the water furnace project, the pressure already reaches 5 Atmospheres, and already there I put an emergency pressure relief valve.
GREAT IDEA sir,i wondered,BUT need some modifications for effective utilization like coil space,heat exchange mechanism,flame control...etc..ALL THE BEST..
this is just an alcohol stove, but with gas. its a simple device that has existed for decades, and works off of a simple principle: fuel is liquid (problem), use heat from fuel to boil fuel so fuel is gas (solution), then fuel is ready to be used with standard gas nozzles.
@@Doctor-Robo i am thinking that maybe the pressure isnt nessesarry if you have the fuel tank high enough, to let gravity do the job? othervise, maybe for a gas burner this wouldnt be an issue
It is an interesting burner, but is is more or less a Coleman stove except the pressure is supplied by the expansion of the fuel from liquid to vapor instead of a leather cup pump in the fuel tank. Gasoline and diesel will vaporize but they have will have more residue that will not vaporize and foul the inside of your coil.
Wow I like it please experiment how does it work with diesel fuel drain oil vegetable oil perhaps? And let us know thank you so much and when you get a working prototype maybe you can sell me one as I do not have the equipment to build my own?
Well, can it burn oil? i would love to build one of these but i mostly have leftover cooking oil so im not sure if it can work on it or not. thx a lot for sharing this its very useful!
Great Job! Put it at the end of your bed at night to keep warm♨♨ if not warm enough soak your blankets in oil and put under blanket you will never be cold again😣
@@Doctor-Robo So what’s the fuel consumption at full power, half power, and low power in grams? What’s the boiling rate for one liter of water per power setting in grams? What would that be for diesel, kerosene, white gas(naphtha or Coleman fuel), and regular unleaded gasoline? What’s the cost of building this stove? Where would this be most useful?
@@joemendyk9994, it's called being an engineer. You know those things people blame on engineers because it seems stupid? Yeah, that's me, except what you don't know is that everything I've designed and certified never had those silly things you find. Why? Because I ask questions that have value. You build your own and run into efficiency problems like he’s going to. Waste your materials by creating a second failed model. Think before you speak. Being a parts changer doesn't make YOU brilliant. It just means you can change a broken part.
Hello mr robot. 20 kw of power is amazing. What if you put diode on the top and bottom of the coil , insulated from heat of course, with a condensator. This is use in air baloon but out of price. This is use in ancient time with mercury and caducee form for the coil. I dream about this for some times, so thanks you for this. Stainless steel will be more safe, did you try it for a long time ? .
I just discovered this channel. Is the robotic accent a theme for the name of the channel? I like the burner design. I've been experimenting with the same goal in mind. thank you
this is what you call a heat exchancer, your trying to exchance the heat into the gasoline to create gass, - coil is backwards, the hottest exchance should happen at the last point, else you get the fluttering. - vale instead of sealing the container should promote more flow and decrease the heatingup requirement. - im somewhat concerned heat will make the copper brittle stainless prolly better idea?
This tech has been around since the 1890's. These coils fill with hard carbon deposits (it's called coking) and they stop working well until they eventually clog completely, and any dislodged coke that breakers free during operation will immediately block the fuel jet. Again, 1890's tech
Interesting design, ik subscribed as you have lots of interesting “ out of the box” type of projects! Thanks for sharing and hope you get lots more subscribers.👍
I see why you say 10 turns best. The last two glowing red hot says all the fuel is vaporized and superheated. Is it gravity or vapor pressure fed? I missed that part. Awesome little design I bet LPG like in hot air Baloon burner would work extremely well
As the fuel burns, the tank can not let air in to replace the used fuel? I think that can affect operation. It need a way to let air enter as fuel leaves , or as a "Coleman" Lantern, it has a pump to add air pressure inside the fuel tank. Great video!
@@AB1Vampire As Thatsonebadhatharry said. "Heating the tubing creates the pressure". The tubing getting hot causes the fuel to vaporize into gasses causing pressure which then escapes as a vapour, this ignites as it leaves and joins the pre-ignited fuel until it can sustain itself from that point onwards. Think of how steam leaves a kettle when boiling except steam is non flammable of-course. I hope this helps Kes!
I think you are creating a bomb. Air under pressure. (Which will drop the egnition temperature probaby) Mixed with high octane fluid..... In a airtight steel container!!!!!! Wau.... That would be a grate way to kill yourself. If you raise the pressure of this mixture high enough. IT WÍL SELF EGNITE!!! DON'T DO IT!!!!! It is the same way a diesel engine works. Thats why you don't need the sparkplugs, only preeheating plugs in cold climates
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I've made copper coils out of tubing and if you fill the tubing with sugar or salt before bending it will hold a circular cross section in tight bends as opposed to flattening out or kinking. I use salt or sugar because it packs well (using vibration from an Oral B toothbrush) and can be removed using water after the bend is completed.
Very good suggestion.
Yep good idea. We have even used ground up corn husks and also ground up walnut shells
Usually sand is used to that 👆
@@MauricioReyno Exactly! Just use dry fine grained play sand and tap the tube to loosen it out after bending.
Buy a hvac tube bender
I used cooper tubing before and at higher temperatures corroded inside, and the flakes clogged the burner nozel. Recommend using stainless steel tubing, the best place is brake lines for the car.
Cheers the best idea ever
Thank you very much, I will definitely take your advice. I also want to replace the faucet with a needle valve to fine-tune the flame.
jumped in to comment this. That copper will melt in no time, its already cherry red. Secondly I thought this was going to be a burner where the warm air, or a closed liquid system heated the coils to use inside. What is this even for?
@@werewolf74 making a bullshit self-serving video.
@@werewolf74 The coils are to preheat the liquid inside, since it's very clear that the tubes get red hot, the effect happening in the tubing is called gasification, where the then liquid gasoline turns into gas and is then burn in the nozzle, I think it also helps counter act the heat going to the walls of the burner, since it will now be somewhat consumed by the fuel (by the way, this method is used in some rocket engines, where the fuel is liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen, which have way more cooling power).
Cupro-nickel brake line tubing is far more resistant to oxidising when heated and far easier to bend than stainless.
If you fill the copper tube with sand first and flatten the ends you bend without worrying it will kink or crush. Really awesome flame from what you have built. what a beast!
WOULDNT A TUBING BENDER BE LESS TROUBLE,IM THINKING GETTING ALL THAT SAND INTO THEN BACK OUT OF THE TUBING,ESPECIALLY AFTER SHAPING WILL BE A HEADACHE. RIGHT?? IDK,IVE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT A BUILD LIKE THIS.
ALL THE BEST TO YOU!
@@jiwbink I agree with what you are saying my friend. This is what I thought when my friend suggested it to me some years ago. As long as you use fine, dry sand when you open the ends up all you do is tap the tube and the sand begins to run out. Bending does compress the sand but it isn't too much trouble and the result is very good.
Sand works okay salt works better i believe the best method is with water in the pipe keeps it from crushing and way easy to get out
@@gargoyleking529 I will try the salt and the water method next time, thanks pal.
@@gargoyleking529 frozen water, or ice.
Liquid water would require a pressure secure seal on both ends and absolutely no air. Water doesn't compress so bending the tube increases internal pressure.
I really appreciate you taking the time to translate this to English
Cesky
It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside when he says "health and peace to you and your loved ones" it's a good greeting, I like it
Thank you my friend! Thank you! I'm always glad to see you on my channel.
I can't say that I hold out much hope for the crystal structure of that copper that you're heating to Cherry red (and near the burner to yellow). As a bit of fun it was very impressive - as a heater, I wouldn't go within 20 feet of it.
We were thinking the same thing. That thing might act similarly to a molotov cocktail
Correction - one zero missing. ... "200 feet of it"
@@gkrishnan4829 now that's safe....
@@mcprotec2246 I believe all the posts by this fellow is a troll on DIY enthusiasts especially this one, absolutely crazy, wrong, unsafe and in fact dangerous on many counts.
Now we're taking off a couple of inches instead... Lol
The reason there's no pressure and why you can't regulate the flame is because the valve is before the coil. If you put a valve after the coil but before it's burnt the pressure will increase according to the valve position. But be careful of the pressure, or it might explode.
You could try installing a pressure regulator.
This is a very good idea! Thanks a lot! I will definitely try and be careful, I will put an emergency pressure relief valve.
Be carefull with the valve my friend...
You don't want to accidentally endup in a clowd flammable fumes, combined with oxygen
For shure you should check your valves not to contain any plastic
If you want to use otnon the HOT PRESSURE side!
Youndont want a sudden clowd of explosive gass escaping all at a sudden.
I believe water to steam is an increase in vollume of 30x
@@Doctor-Robo have in count that if you reduce the pressure from one end of the coil it will escape from the other end increasing the pressure on the fuel tank
I believe you'd get more control over flow if you used a gate valve instead of a ball valve. That's what I was always told with hydronic hvac systems at work anyway, ball valves are a simple on/off, gate valves allow you to fine tune flow. Also, on my antique blowtorches I notice the ones with thicker metal on the nozzle tend to work better, i'm guessing because the extra metal can store more heat there. Your design here is very similar to, and superior to, an old lead smelting furnace I have.
One really cool idea I saw in another video; using an ultrasonic fogger like one found in a humidifier can be used to vaporize fuel before combustion. Love your videos, can't wait to see what you come up with next.
Nice prototype! Looking forward to seeing tested applications of it with more durable materials
Thanks a lot David! Check out my other projects, I think you will be interested. By the way, a new video has been posted.
The concept is quite similar to the way the Alladin lamps were built in the UK in 1800's. Worked well for them so I think this should work very well as a heater, I think it would be better to have the fuel reserve further from the flame though?
Petrol and diesel only need a couple of hundred degrees maximum, to get vaporisation. Normally the pressurisation would come from a separate piston pump. I'm not sure how safe it is to pass the fuel through a red hot pipe, but I guess it is safe enough all the time there is no path to get additional oxygen inside the fuel vessel..... Otherwise it would be a 200kw burner for a very short period of time!😳😲😯😮🔥🤣
My thoughts exactlly
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So good to see your videos where you use 'best practices' - Cutting fluid when drilling, good tapping technique. etc.
I've seen so many vids where they don't use any lube, and/or just keep cranking the tap/die without ever backing off to clear chips
Thanks for posting this.
I am very glad that you like my videos and my projects. Come again, I'm always glad to see you on my channel! Thanks a lot!
Mr Robo, I admire your patience in replying to so many of these helpful(?) comments. Well done. And I enjoyed the video. Thanks!
Thank you! I like to communicate with the viewers of the channel, I like to be useful to people and maybe my ideas will push someone to their own ideas. Or maybe someone will find a hobby and become the new Einstein.
What did you put in it? Gasoline or diesel?
Ahhh 🙂 I can definitely see great uses for this. I need something like this for the burning of methane and HHO. I wanna make one small with multiple outputs to drive a heat pump system like a steam engine rig, or to run sterling engines.
Really?
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I want to do the same, the problem is hho burns extremely quickly which would blow back to the container? It also burns 2500c so it would melt the copper, there's a video on here of a guy that made an hho burner with a syringe needle and it could melt steel, to make a boiler you'd need to find a way of making a very small, but, powerful flame to do a lot of work, so you'd need a heat exchanger that would need to withstand immense heat that could pass a reasonable amount of water through to heat it or similarly with an element type deal, it's doable, but getting the nozzle reliable is critical in a low maintenance setup
Could you dilute the HHO with normal air to mitigate those effects I wonder?
@@MersyyLife flash back suppressor or a 1 way check valve.
that looks like a very effective little heater, thanks!
you now need the copper coil burner to be surrounded with a heat sink, vented brake disks stacked on top of each other with a thick steel lid is what most people use, the radiant heat is much better, and a lot safer than exposed flames, and they look really cool painted up with HTP.
I`m not perfect in this language but i think you can be right - will you give link for this radiant device? Thanks:)
Great work hope your copper will not fail soon. Mine did.
Not exactly the same setup but something similar
Thanks a lot! There are many more interesting things on my channel, come back again!
Honestly surprised the the copper tubing wouldn't melt. Cool vid. Maybe stainless brake tubing, if it would? It will wear your hands out making the coil, but should last longer and take higher heat, but won't transfer heat as good as the copper. Cute dog, cheers.
it will. at least like that it will. it was already cheery red in this vid.
@@werewolf74 cycle it a few times
Melting point for copper is 1089 degrees Celsius. This set up is never going to reach that threshold.
@@howardosborne8647 buddy, I really don't have time for tards who just looked something up and think they know. Put it in a box, ie, use it to heat something, and it will reflect and make the local temperature high enough to melt it. Try it.
@Howard I was taught by welders and plumbers that making the copper that hot won't melt it necessarily, but it reduces the strength of the copper walls and become chalky and brittle after a few intense cycles.... I'm not a metallurgist by any means but is that not true? Genuinely wondering. 👍
For people wondering how this works… the same principle is still used in basic self-priming camp stoves, and in other low-tech devices. It can be very effective…. Look up how to make an alcohol stove out of a soda can. As Boy Scouts we made them all the time. Called “penny stoves” because a coin is used to regulate the pressure.
🔥
1. Prime it: Liquid fuel is put into a container that can hold necessary pressure. Then liquid fuel it is heated up by an outside source (like a fire) until it turns into high pressure gas fuel.
2. The new high pressure gas that wants to escape. (it does not explode inside his pipe coil because there is not enough oxygen in there to burn … but if the pressure container failed, there would be a tremendous and dangerous explosion ⚠️)
3. The high pressure gas created now escapes from an orifice of some kind and is ignited by you with a match, or more commonly, by the priming process itself.
4. The burning high pressure gas is now designed in such a way so as to preheat and vaporize its own liquid fuel source independently. …. This is why his big flame needs to blast through his copper coil. It must vaporize the liquid behind it.
The whole process creates a cycle of pressure and combustion that will continue on forever, or in reality, until the liquid fuel source is either closed off or is completely consumed.
Cool idea, one thought though, I’d invest in a good carbon monoxide detector (when operating in closed environments, outside no worries) rule of thumb, if it burns oxygen it creates noxious gases. But, I like it for many uses and I’ve been a HVAC contractor for a hell of a lot longer than I’d care to admit.
Yes, the stove creates harmful gases. Indoors you need a chimney for gases, and in the open air you can do without it.
Love the minimalist design! Ingenious! Health to you and your loved ones. From 🏴
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Did you survive the house fire?
Genius ! Keep it up . You are on the right side of creativity and success.
Thanks a lot! I am very glad that you like my videos. I will try to do interesting projects.
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Wow wow wow, this is the first on my list of DIY, I am so impressed. As a process operator, seeing this simple burner just makes my day
I am very glad that you liked my idea. Thank you.🤝🤖
The same principle is used on some camping stoves that work on different fuels. No need to carry propane canisters
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Mini jet ingine concept. That helps me understand. Thanks for posting.
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You can protect that orifice from debris with a copper spun filter drier used in refrigeration systems. Cut it in half and empty out the silica beads, then braze it back together. Super fine mesh metal screen in filter.👍
Thank you very much for the advice, it's just excellent! This is really a good idea!
@@Doctor-Robo And it isn't as if you need to go buy a new one. All refrigerators have that device and the greater majority of them will appear absolutely clean inside, regardless of the outer appearance. A film of light oil may be what you will run across, easily removed.👍
@@markhonea2461 why doesn't mine have it? It's samsung brand.
@TroniX FiX it has it somewhere. It will be at the final end of the condensing side of the system. All systems of the evaporative type need to protect the capillary tube from debris, thus the ultra fine mesh screen. As well, the silica beads adsorb, yes adsorb any remaining water molecules present after evacuation. But don't mess with it!
Anyway I've worked on many samsung units, and believe me, it's there somewhere.
awesome working idea.superb workmanship , very neat & clean - viewer from the Phils.
Thanks a lot! There are many more interesting things on my channel, come back again!
Add afterburner in the form of steel mesh stretching far above from the coil.The flame will get even higher and will burn the rest of the gases that didn't burn when inside the coil or are a product of the inside-coil burn (like CO for example).
This is a very good idea! Thanks a lot! I will definitely try! It is very interesting.
@@Doctor-Robo I'll be waiting for the video
@Burnt Kitty Forge something like that. I was under impression that mantle only glows from heat and that is its only function. The afterburner I proposed would keep some heat inside and use additional oxygen to burn remaining flammable particles/gases. Ideally air coming to it would be already heated. Afterburner seems to be better name, although maybe they are the same.
@Burnt Kitty Forge Depending on fuel composition the 'mantle' material will vary as some multi component fuels will choke up the surface holes
I'd like to see the video of you making this again using the input from the comments. A version of this with an adjustable flame would be incredibly valuable.
I will try to do it soon. Thank you.
Did you like the idea friends?
the tubewinding and the tube could be more smal and narrow so it will start quicker or could also run with kitchen oil. also a variable nozzle or exchaingeable nozzle option for different kinds of fuel... and a starter candle should be good thing to add. ...
Awesome idea, make it smaller, make a small one like Coleman or BRS 12A stove
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Copper won’t last long . Only stainless steel can handle the oxidation and heat process.
The Russians may want to by some? They'll test them on their soldiers, I herd they were getting cold.
It’s beautiful, thank you so much. This kind of knowledge is crucial. 👍
Hello. I am very pleased that my videos are liked and can be useful to someone.🤝🤖
Great idea but instead of copper I will use heavy duty stainless steel break lines.
Brake lines, perhaps?
Yes that thing looks like it could reach copper melting temperatures.
Yes, a stainless steel tube would be much better. And you need to put a small air pump into the fuel tank for the initial start.
This is the best one of these I've seen. You pay great attention to detail, using the lost art of common sense.
I don't agree. First he put teflon tape to seal,the tape is to be used fot plastic fittings,not for metals,because it getts riped at screw.Between metal fittings needs to be used teflon line.
I also used an anaerobic sealant for sealing at high temperatures.
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I've used that sealer before .being old school , the directions threw me back a little.about no air, to seal, it was fancy stuff for me.keep it up , I have a. Old orchard smudge pot ,I need to post,it's 😎 cool.
This is how a burner on a hot air balloon works. They use LP (propane).
Yes! You are absolutely right! There is a very similar design, only different fuel.
This is great, modern old tech is way. With modern manufacturing process and types of material I think some of the old world tech is very applicable to today's world.
Great imagine if you could ow make it with stainless steel tubing for greater long term durability. Fantastic work!
@Burnt Kitty Forge Yeah I was thinking about stuff from Swagelok but very expensive, even though it's really good and u can buy it in an annealed state and easy to bend; make all the joints by simply buying the joints and use their one way valve to prevent pressure blow back into tank, although it can only work that valve if it is vertical. Too expensive though. i used to use their stuff heaps when i worked at various unis but then I wasn't paying for it personally. The brewing supply alternative sounds much better!
@Burnt Kitty Forge Key word 'resistant' SS highly resistant, but would need good support
The idea is interesting, and I suppose works well in theory (short term). I don't think it's sustainable to heat copper to such high temperatures for long periods of time though. This will eventually go boom.
put some safety fail safe in there if you can otherwise might go boom if it melts down if possible do a safety check in a blast proof container or safe location make a second device and run it until failure just so you can improve upon the safety and longevity of your device you made
I feel the hotter the tubes get it becomes unsafe.
Thanks a lot for the advice! I will definitely upgrade my project and improve the security of the device!
If you twist the copper pipe outside a iron tube and just let it stay on, you will get a much longer lifespan out of the copper. Sure it will take a little while longer to heat up, but it will last much longer.
este es la verdadera receta de un generador uroboro, esto simboliza realmente el dragon que muerde su propia cola o que la quema. yo estoy seguro, calentar el propio recipiente que contiene el combustible, tambien estoy seguro que los hebreos lograron hacer funcionar esta receta con sus lamparas de aceite, gracias a ellas no se quedaban sin iluminacion, aunque es cierto que emite monoxido constantemente. gracias por el video, maravillosa tu obra, te deseo lo mejor, ojala sigas subiendo contenido asi de bonito.
¡Muchas gracias! ¡Vuelve, siempre me alegrará verte en mi canal! 🤝👌🤖
@@Doctor-Robo puedes remplazar el mercurio por estaño, para el vimana saucer.
@@Doctor-Robo es el motor de las naves de tarsis de la biblia, redescubierto por este hombre que se hace llamar "Treugolnik".
@@Doctor-Robo cualquier consulta, escribime, no tengo problema en contestar dudas sobre estos temas
Very cool stuff, thank you and a big LIKE !!!
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На внутренней поверхности раскалённой трубки происходит крекинг углеводородов. Если часть образующегося углерода будет формировать механически прочный слой, трубка рано или поздно засорится.
The gas tank is tightly closed or it has an air breather to ensure sufficient oil flow supply. If there is no air breather, I believe the tank will have a vacuum effect
Tick workshop- i’d like to see how it was when you get it to operate perfectly for your purposes.
It would also be nice to hear about the adjustments that I took to get it to that point.
A very interesting experiment. I had something tangentially related in my own mind just this afternoon. So it would have been all the more relating to see this work for you.
Thank you for sharing. It takes a particular kind of courage and integrity to show the experiments that don’t turn out exactly the way that a person would like.
Thanks a lot! I will be glad if you become a regular subscriber! After the experiment, it turned out what was needed - a stainless steel tube would be much better. And you need to put a small air pump into the fuel tank for the initial start. You also need a needle tap (valve) to adjust the flame.
@@Doctor-Robo : I’ll have to look at your channel before I do that.
There are so many people that are asking for subscribers, and only so much time in the day to watch content, So my general policy is to find channels that are directly related to practical things in my life.
To the best of my memory this is the first of your videos that has come into my feed; it was extremely interesting, so of course I’ll be glad to have a look and see what other content you have.
If it turns out that your ideas which generally work to help level my own up, of course I will be super glad to sub.
I’ll have a look and see if I can find the updated video for this one, Where you got it working exactly the way you wanted.
Thank you so much for getting back to me.
Very impressive flame. I would put a one-way valve in the tubing right where you connect the plastic line. Weld, not solder but weld, a Y joint to the one way fitting and install a needle valve to control the fuel feed. Make the rubber fuel line from an automobile duty hose with braided stainless steel covering. I know you are trying to make this on a budget but there are a few safety steps you really should consider.
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I think the heat coil needs to be further from the tank and adjustable nozzle. Maybe also a piece of perforated metal in between for a heat shield.
Anyone survive their house fire this guy caused? He owes me a new shed and 7 chickens.
Gracias querido amigo por el vídeo muy bueno !!
That's stupidly made at so many points.
Thanks a lot for sharing 🙏🏻👌
When I saw how he picked up the dog I said screw this video. Poor thing was cold
My dog was cold and I picked her up in my arms to keep her warm. This is a hunting breed of dog and this coat can be lifted by the withers, it does not hurt her! Many animals carry their babies in this way, it's natural.
Dachshunds are prone to crippling/painful/expensive to treat intervertebral disc disease. IVDD affect approximately 20% of Dachshunds and is when the intervertebral discs bulge and compress on the spinal cord nerves often resulting in paralysis, crippling pain, incontinence. Surgery is often required and can easily cost $6-10K. Picking her up by the scruff leaves her back fully unsupported and puts her at risk for back/disc issues Especially if she twists her back or struggles in the least while you are scruffing her, this injury could easily occur. A better way to pick her up is to fully support her legs and body with one arm while cradling her with the other.
I am leaving the video now too. You don't leave a dog outside that long that's its freezing and then pick it up by the neck like it's still a tiny puppy. These people are primitive. Also I can't handle robot voice not one minute.
It's called scruffing the dog. Like it's mom's did as a baby to move it.
@@martinalonzo4740 simple education or free Google search will inform you that you can cause major damage scuffing a dog after 8 weeks old.
Adding a one way valve would make it safer, for long term use.
You are right, but the pressure in the fuel tank is very low, you can see it on the pressure gauge in the video. In the last video in the water furnace project, the pressure already reaches 5 Atmospheres, and already there I put an emergency pressure relief valve.
GREAT IDEA sir,i wondered,BUT need some modifications for effective utilization like coil space,heat exchange mechanism,flame control...etc..ALL THE BEST..
I agree with you 100%! 🤖
Exelente, estoy aprendiendo en ese trabajo y si esta bien exñlicado
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Yes I do like it.
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this is just an alcohol stove, but with gas. its a simple device that has existed for decades, and works off of a simple principle: fuel is liquid (problem), use heat from fuel to boil fuel so fuel is gas (solution), then fuel is ready to be used with standard gas nozzles.
Many thanks! I will definitely heed your advice. 🤖
wow i love this design, i am gonna try out something similar to this in my garden shed, i will ad a little chimney thou.
TANK YOU FOR SHARING
It's tedious to add a small air pump to the fuel tank for the initial start.
@@Doctor-Robo i am thinking that maybe the pressure isnt nessesarry if you have the fuel tank high enough, to let gravity do the job?
othervise, maybe for a gas burner this wouldnt be an issue
Wow thats cool I like it.🥁😎🥁..
Отличная идея, надо попробовать когда-то.
this is the coleman stove evaporator principle. works fine. Yes any fuel.
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Awesome video my friend! Can’t wait for the next one! 👍🏴
It is an interesting burner, but is is more or less a Coleman stove except the pressure is supplied by the expansion of the fuel from liquid to vapor instead of a leather cup pump in the fuel tank. Gasoline and diesel will vaporize but they have will have more residue that will not vaporize and foul the inside of your coil.
We have always had dashounds dad just got a puppy. Love ur projects and workshop. Keep up the good work.
Yes, dachshunds are a great breed👍. I'm glad you like my work. Thank you very much🤝🤖
Holy cow it is a new burner for a jet engine put some air going threw the model of the coil. I wonder how much thrust you would get?
Thanks a lot! I don’t know what kind of thrust there)) The project turned out to be just reactive)!
If you pre-pressurised the tank to about 10-15 psi the burner will be working much better.
Well, that looks safe!
Wow I like it please experiment how does it work with diesel fuel drain oil vegetable oil perhaps? And let us know thank you so much and when you get a working prototype maybe you can sell me one as I do not have the equipment to build my own?
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I have alcohol stoves that use a similar system
But only require 2 loops to function properly.
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And here we have a snow puppy "yoink" 😂
You make some very creative heaters 🔥👍
A voz é linda, suave, cativante e muito agradável de ouvir. dei like por causa da voz.
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Well, can it burn oil? i would love to build one of these but i mostly have leftover cooking oil so im not sure if it can work on it or not. thx a lot for sharing this its very useful!
Está genial me gustó gracias por la explicacion
¡Gracias! ¡Vuelve, me alegraré!🤝🤖
It was obvious that pressure gauge was useless from the start. There is no pressure in the oil tank. Apart from that I like
This is a fantastic unit! Thank you for sharing. I am. a new subscriber.
Hey! I am very glad that now you are with us! 🤝🤖
@@Doctor-Robo Thank you. That is such an awesome unit. I can't wait to build one.
Good job. And you've managed to survive a mechanical apocalypse..
Thanks a lot! 😂🤣
Great Job! Put it at the end of your bed at night to keep warm♨♨ if not warm enough soak your blankets in oil and put under blanket you will never be cold again😣
I WAS THINKIN MABY YOU COULD JOIN IN ALSO AND SNUGGLE UP WHILE AWAITING THE ETERNAL WARMTH TO COME
mis felicitaciones amigo por tu invento ahi va mi laik
Great tutorial! neat workmanship.. What is the rate of fuel consumption?
Thank you! Fuel consumption depends on the desired power. The higher the power, the greater the fuel consumption.
@@Doctor-Robo So what’s the fuel consumption at full power, half power, and low power in grams?
What’s the boiling rate for one liter of water per power setting in grams?
What would that be for diesel, kerosene, white gas(naphtha or Coleman fuel), and regular unleaded gasoline?
What’s the cost of building this stove?
Where would this be most useful?
@@emeryz10 I hope he replies Apexfizz, I'd like some answers as well.
@@emeryz10 build one, find your own answers.......
@@joemendyk9994, it's called being an engineer. You know those things people blame on engineers because it seems stupid? Yeah, that's me, except what you don't know is that everything I've designed and certified never had those silly things you find. Why? Because I ask questions that have value.
You build your own and run into efficiency problems like he’s going to. Waste your materials by creating a second failed model.
Think before you speak. Being a parts changer doesn't make YOU brilliant. It just means you can change a broken part.
Hello mr robot. 20 kw of power is amazing. What if you put diode on the top and bottom of the coil , insulated from heat of course, with a condensator. This is use in air baloon but out of price. This is use in ancient time with mercury and caducee form for the coil. I dream about this for some times, so thanks you for this. Stainless steel will be more safe, did you try it for a long time ? .
I just discovered this channel. Is the robotic accent a theme for the name of the channel? I like the burner design. I've been experimenting with the same goal in mind. thank you
Thanks!!! I will post a new video soon!
Perhaps a stainless steel pipe instead of copper (higher melting point)
Stainless steel will be even better than copper.🤖
Very nice setup. Thanks for the knowledge.
Thanks a lot! Check out my other projects, I think you will be interested. By the way, a new video has been posted.
this is what you call a heat exchancer, your trying to exchance the heat into the gasoline to create gass,
- coil is backwards, the hottest exchance should happen at the last point, else you get the fluttering.
- vale instead of sealing the container should promote more flow and decrease the heatingup requirement.
- im somewhat concerned heat will make the copper brittle stainless prolly better idea?
Fill the copper tube with fine sand to keep it from kinking when bending.
Many thanks! I will definitely heed your advice. 🤝🤖
Very nice idea.. love it..
"GOOD STUFF"
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Excelente para hacer tambien lamparas de noche, gracias por tu aporte
Me alegra mucho que te haya gustado mi idea. Gracias.🤝🤖
THIS IS COOL,I LIKE IT.
Thank you very much for appreciating my work!🤝🤖
Excellent indor heater, just add the exhaust pipe, not to get chocked
Thank you! Yes, if used in a closed room, a pipe is needed to remove harmful gases. It can also be equipped with a heatsink for heat dissipation.
That looks like I could blow glass with that flame! 🔥
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This tech has been around since the 1890's. These coils fill with hard carbon deposits (it's called coking) and they stop working well until they eventually clog completely, and any dislodged coke that breakers free during operation will immediately block the fuel jet. Again, 1890's tech
Who cares if it's "1890s tech"? Thousands of things we used today are tech from the 1800s... including the internal combination engine
Interesting design, ik subscribed as you have lots of interesting “ out of the box” type of projects! Thanks for sharing and hope you get lots more subscribers.👍
I am very glad that you like my videos! Come again, thanks!🤝🤖
I see why you say 10 turns best. The last two glowing red hot says all the fuel is vaporized and superheated. Is it gravity or vapor pressure fed? I missed that part. Awesome little design I bet LPG like in hot air Baloon burner would work extremely well
As the fuel burns, the tank can not let air in to replace the used fuel? I think that can affect operation. It need a way to let air enter as fuel leaves , or as a "Coleman" Lantern, it has a pump to add air pressure inside the fuel tank. Great video!
It works under it's own created pressure Wes, letting air into the tank would release pressure, causing the flame to go out.
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I like Wes don't understand where the tank pressure comes from. What did I miss?
@@AB1Vampire Heating of the tubing creates the pressure.
@@AB1Vampire As Thatsonebadhatharry said. "Heating the tubing creates the pressure". The tubing getting hot causes the fuel to vaporize into gasses causing pressure which then escapes as a vapour, this ignites as it leaves and joins the pre-ignited fuel until it can sustain itself from that point onwards. Think of how steam leaves a kettle when boiling except steam is non flammable of-course. I hope this helps Kes!
I think you are creating a bomb.
Air under pressure. (Which will drop the egnition temperature probaby)
Mixed with high octane fluid.....
In a airtight steel container!!!!!!
Wau.... That would be a grate way to kill yourself.
If you raise the pressure of this mixture high enough.
IT WÍL SELF EGNITE!!!
DON'T DO IT!!!!!
It is the same way a diesel engine works. Thats why you don't need the sparkplugs, only preeheating plugs in cold climates
I'm interested in buying some of these.
Thank you very much for appreciating my work! Unfortunately, I do not make anything for sale, because I do not have such an opportunity.🤝🤖
这样燃烧铜管，铜管能烧好久会坏掉。一直烧一个晚上24小时，铜管会不会烧破洞变形而坏掉
这只是一个实验设计。 最好使用不锈钢管。 🤖
I'd like to see it using biodiesel. Nice work man.
Muy interesante desde Chile saludos 😊😮😮😮
Me alegra mucho que te gusten mis videos! ¡Vuelve, gracias!🤝🤖🖐
SHOWING innovating thought excellence!
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I’ve seen a lab burner that similar, but meant to be horizontally mounted.