He said it more succinctly , but I want to add that any piece of art that gets worse the more you know, is not good. There's stories out there that get better the more you look at them and the more you understand, like Lilo and Stitch or Wall-E. Then there are ones like Wreck it Ralph 2.
@@StickmanWithARocketSword Dude the only reason I even remember Wreck-It-Ralph 2 exists is because of Shadman's art being seared into my brain. That's not a good thing.
One of my biggest complaints about the film is that they for some godforsaken reason decided to hire composers who had zero experience in musical theatre and only wrote pop music…for a 100th anniversary Disney film…like what????
Fun fact, in the early stages of development, this movie was actually meant to be fully traditionally animated in 2D, however they scrapped that idea because of "limits on camera movement and characterization". Which is just corporate speak for skill issue
Animators at Disney have pretty much confirmed there will never be another full 2D animated Disney feature again, because the talent, equipment, and processes are all gone for good, and even if that wasn't the case, the culture is actively hostile to 2D animators. And Disney's own staff are the ones claiming this. So yes, skill issue.
Charlie: “It’s not bad.” Also Charlie: “It’s really, really, painfully generic… It’s legitimately a full blown marketing campaign that could have been used as a commercial but was stretched into a feature length film…The ending is terrible. The ending is so, so, so bad…They didn’t even really have a story to tell.” Damn, I can’t even imagine what he’d have to say about a movie he thought was bad.
it IS bad. maybe people feel the need to emphasize it's not bad because it doesn't _look_ bad. the shots, the protagonist, the poster look really good, but that's all.
well, knowing Charlie, if it was genuinely terrible, he'd probably love it lmao I seem to remember the following quote "drawn like a fly to a pile of sh!t" with regard to Charlie's adoration for truly awful films and tv
A "bad" movie has the potential to be extremely enjoyable on an ironic level - the "so bad it's good" phenomenon. A mediocre movie doesn't have that potential. It just... exists. More of a "so okay it's average" kind of thing. Good or bad, the one thing a piece of art should never be is forgettable.
Friendly reminder that Wish had a budget of $200 million, while the 2 Spider-Verse movies put together only total to $190 million. How is that even physically possible. There has to be massive accounting fraud going on at Disney or something, because Wish doesn’t even look a tenth as good as those movies yet it cost twice as much to make.
And had to have taken far less time to make. Cause both Spiderverse films have been massive and lengthy works of love. So yeah you raise a damn good point.
What hurts me the most is the scrapped starboy concept. Disney replaced him with that generic little star because he was "too hard to design." They were on the cusp of delivering a Disney princess movie about a princess falling in love with a shape-shifting shooting star and teaming up with him to fight Disney's first every villain couple. A classic Disney film, appropriate for the 100 year celebration. AND THEY SCRAPPED IT BECAUSE IT WAS "TOO HARD TO DESIGN."
Seeing the reception to that new snow white actresses’s comments about this exact thing, I highly doubt the majority of people would actually say this, especially if it was actually well written/sweet like most fan theories going around are saying the wish writers could have handled it @@h.t.awesome3822
nah, at this point I just want to see them go under. i want dozens of smaller companies to take their place and make masterpieces from actual passion projects.
It's almost like they realized "Oh shit it's the 100th anniversary this year" and slapped a gift together from found objects. Except it cost $200 million.
@@fatcat22able some shit aint adding up my boy i think your right, mathematically, scientifically. How is this possible? They breached a gap in the space-time continuum.
The biggest flaw when people try and argue that you can’t criticize something made for kids if you’re an adult is the fact that adults made it. It was a bunch of kids making a movie for kids, yeah who cares. But if it’s a studio of adults, and especially if they pitch that film is something that might be family friendly, then everyone has the right to critique it.
I wonder if, due to the writer's strike or something, this was their first attempt at an AI written Disney movie. You know... testing the waters a bit to see how it would do. Basically ChatGPT learned off all previous Disney movies and made it's best attempt at a new one.
The fact that you can't tell the difference between lowest common denomination millinials and Gen z writers apart from ai is genuinely very amusing. These are your peers. This is what they think is passable. And a lot of you pay to see it. 😂yikes
@shyguy85 except it isn't because on what planet would it be largely millennials and GEN Z making decisions at Disney, creative or otherwise? I also could see someone having the exact same reaction to countless shit scripts that I know of written by 40 - 70 year olds so Yeah no
Chats only been around a year or so. I think this one is just bad writing, which weve seen more and more of. And the strike was way too recent to effect this one. Disney just forgot how to connect with audiences and tell stories with heart
the fact that disney was so out of ideas that they modeled their antagonist based on their own actions is the most artistic thing about this movie 😭 WILD
Yes, I'll take the L+ratio and say I'm a Disney shill (not a Disney adult, I don't buy merch and I know what happened to Ubbe Iwerks and Don Bluth) Because they're the only fellas out there doing original animated feature musicals that isn't an illumination jukebox... And I'm in the wrong fucking hemisphere and continent to go on a night out for a Broadway or West end show for a new musical.
@@utubrGaming I respect your passion for musical theater but at the same time, I would heavily recommend against Disney. Yes they may be the only studio still making musical animation that's not trolls, but there quality, work ethic and business practices have taking such a massive dumpster dive to the point where I would rather watch trolls sober, over watching wish drunk out of my mind (and I don't even drink)
I can't really blame the "villain" for wanting to keep his kingdom safe, imagine if he'd just grant every wish ever. Every Jeffrey Dahmer and Chris Chan's wish coming true, we'd live in a swirling abyss of chaos and poorly made OC drawings come to life.
If the villain granted every wish, realistically the kingdom would last only a few seconds A Child Somewhere: *Cant go outside due to rain* I wish there was no more rain Villain: Wish granted! *Removes possibility of rain* Kingdom: *All water gradually evaporates and never falls, reducing the kingdom to a dry desert*
The shitty thing is that the suits at Disney are going to take away the wrong message: The art style is what made it bad. They're going to continue pumping out the same lame formula with the same lame art style, and they won't dare adjust it because the one time they did (Wish), they botched it. And they're not going to blame the writers.
sad part is that’s what some people are actually saying. People criticizing it for being mid is valid. But I also noticed that the movie has been getting a “Wind Waker” treatment, in that some people don’t like it solely for the art style. Which will probably convince Disney even more not to change and not to experiment further with different styles.
This style wasn't even supposed to be as it was, it was intended to be a 2D film and they used a lotta tricks to pretty it up. For what we got, they did solid with what they had because tryna make 3D look 2Dish is near impossible.
The “evil sorcerer” is honestly the most reasonable Disney villain ever. Yeah some people probably wish for very bad things and those wishes shouldn’t be granted.
Yeah. Like, hes a narcisist, but hes smarter then asha. What if someone wishes their neighbor fell in love with them? Or that someone died so they could get their money? Or to replace all oceans with chocolate? Hell, the movie could have made that point. Have asha go against the king bc hes douchey, then chaos starts and they work together to fix everything while developing their characters. Asha learns not to be so naive and the king learns to be more humble or smth
I don't get why companies like Disney aren't willing to take creative risks anymore. Disney has enough money to take some risk and still function without so much as a scratch yet they keep pumping out mediocre films it's beyond pathetic at this point how much they've dropped in quality for the sake of quantity
Yeah, but they're saying that Disney has so much resources by this point that any possible consequences from risks taken would be insubstantial compared to the scale of their company. @@tarael86
There's less competition now so they don't need to try. Especially now that parents don't care about film quality anymore. The past 10 years of Disney films have been a downward slope of quality.
Disney is literally just too big to fail. Even a tremendous flop like Wish will make its money back through streaming or literally just any other avenue of income Disney has, since they basically own the children's entertainment industry
I haven’t seen the movie but the villain’s evilness doesn’t even sound that evil. He only grants wishes that will be safe for the kingdom? Yeah that sounds like what a responsible ruler would do-
Imagine making a character who lets people live in his kingdom for free. He doesn't coerce them, trick or force them. They willingly come and WILLINGLY give up their wishes and still- live happy. And hes somehow the bad guy
The movie also happens to be kind of communist/socialist propaganda. Even though, like you said, he lets them live there for pretty much free, because it's a single person in charge of making sure no bad wishes come true, it suddenly means he's the worst person ever. Saw another review of the movie and they pointed out why you can let every wish come true, sometimes those wishes will clash and be impossible for them to become true. Can't have someone wish that Person A wins a competition while someone else wishes that Person B wins. One person's wish simply can't come true because someone has to lose or they both lose (aka a tie).
@LJK401 tbf not every wish should be granted, if he did that it would be chaos. Yeah he's a jerk, but the dude isn't the only evil in the world is he?
When an Adam Sandler movie about a talking iguana has more merit and inspirations than a Disney movie released at the same time, then you know Disney really gotta shake things up.
It was a pretty neat movie, nothing crazily complicated or thought provoking but I don’t think it was trying to be anything like that. Just a cute, fun kids movie
Adam Sandler asks for $40 million for a budget and only spends $5 million, pockets the rest. I used to love Adam Sandler but he's just a massive con artist, just like Disney.
I think it would have been a cool twist to have Asha turn out to be this awful person that is actually some sort of villain, and have it be hinted throughout the film that we don't know our protagonist as well as we thought! when she's revealed, her goofy, and annoyingly quirky personality could have been just an awful coverup for evil.
nah people have always cared, disney just started to care less and less. its not that the bar got higher (if anything its gotten lower), its that disney keeps stooping lower and lower
Fun, or unfunny, piece of trivia: the idea was to have a villainous couple with an evil king and queen. The only unique thing it could've had, and they deleted it.
In my opinion the worst thing a movie can do is be generic. There's a line where a movie is so bad that it starts to become entertaining and being generic gets right to cusp of that line and stops.
So the bad guy (Disney allegory) was defeated by all the working class banding together (unionizing) and wishing so hard (pro union lobbying) that their wishes were fulfilled and the bad guy was beaten? Huh, interesting.
I know right? I think a team from the studio changed unnecessary things, the main character not having a love interest, the villian not just being evil, the animals talking. Wish could've been way better if the sorcerer was just evil who kept the wishes to be stronger and granted the wishes, like the best tailor wish, to attract people to his kingdom.
Let's keep it real, though. If you're watching Disney movies in your 30s, you need to talk to somebody. I haven't seen a Disney movie since that one about the fox and the dog. They're good for little children, but they're not for masculine guys.
Never really understood the 'it's only for children' angle. The parents have to buy the tickets and escort the aforementioned tots to the theater, and often are nearby when the kids put a movie onto the tv. They are absolutely going to be experiencing it, so they may as well go watch something they can also derive some enjoyment from as well. .
It's an excuse to get away with giving the bare minimum, or worse. People like that, tend to think children are stupid(and well, yeah. Kids are dumb, cause they are still developing.), thus, with that low bar, anything should be 'good enough', even if it's trash. You'll notice that every talented writer of children's content doesn't subscribe to that way of thinking. But the hacks, and people who cannot write to save their lives, love to push that line out.
Exactly why is say Frozen a kids movie but enjoyed by adults. I heard the parents say it was a really good movie to other parents without even the kids being there 🤷🏻♂️
@@corvus8638I think we’re entering a weird post-criticism world. I was just commenting on games recently how if you criticize one, someone one will inevitably say “well I’m having fun” which when you think about it is really just a variation of “well the film wasn’t made for you”
@joelmcknight9995 not really. It's perfectly fine to say you enjoy the game while someone else doesn't. Likewise it's perfectly fine to say what someone enjoys about a game, is what you don't enjoy about it Great example is rainbow 6, I personally hate how it's a competitive space that leaves no room for casual play, but my friend loves it because it's a competitive space. And that's perfectly fine.
They really defeated the villain with the power of song, completely out of nowhere. Even My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic didn't have the gall to do that, not without at least first establishing that they indeed needed to sing to cast a spell and channel their magic.
There's a whole treasure trove of shows marketed towards children that have well-written stories executed in a proper fashion. It's odd that a movie, with a multimillion dollar budget, can't achieve that same success.
@@ryand7239 Birth of a Nation came out in 1915. 1923 was well into the avant-garde era, dominated by German expressionism…which of course a certain mustache man hated as “degenerate art.”
The Disney execs need to stay in their lane and should have ZERO influence on what the films they make are about because this is what u get. Really bland, boring, uninspired films that don't do anything well. It's just a forgettable film that didn't do anything.
Disney is just way to unemotional, I think it’s because they don’t want to make anything seem offensive when literally most of the movies before weren’t. Now jokes have a worse star rating than dads.
Atlantis and treasure planet are such underrated movies that I still enjoy at 20 years old as much as I did when I was 10. All big movie companies just care about pumping out something people will throw money at for no reason
Its sad that so many new movies feel so generic now, companies like disney really should be more willing to take more creative risks, rather than always doing the same boring concept
once companies get large enough to have a gigantic investor base, they tend not to take risks because all the investors will just pull out at the slightest red bar and make the company implode.
41 years ago, Disney released Tron. That was one of the biggest risks they've ever made, and it took so much effort and time to make (they literally drew every neon light by hand frame by frame). It did amazing, and it's really sad to see that they're afraid to make risks now. If they have billions of dollars to burn on crappy movies like Marvels or Eternals (that's MCU movies alone) then they're able to take risks. If they flop, it's not like they're making any less money than they already are.
I'd argue that one of the strengths of the Incredibles, is that it wasn't written for kids. It was written for families in general, so it increased the likelihood that it'd resonate with a larger audience.
Part of the strength in The Incredibles writing is that they don't shy away with heavy adult subjects like the relationship problem in Bob's household, or the murder of Gazerbeam, hell even the main antagonist is straight up written like Homelander. The Incredibles manages to portray all of this heavy subjects in such a light family friendly way, the writing is just Incredible
"so it increased the likelihood that it'd resonate with a larger audience" That's like, so 2005... These days it's all about aiming movies and entire series at the smallest demographics within the audience. Don't you want to be hip and cool?!?!? /s
As someone who was born in the 90s, there were lots of shows and movies in my times that had deeply mature themes I don't see in shows and movies of the present. Hey Arnold! or The Hunchback of Notre Dame both dealt with heavy shit such as prejudice and discrimination towards people for their poverty and appearance, but in ways that are so 👌 that I don't think they can compare to how these issues are handled by entertainment media in our present (they're mediocre).
01:55 ... I'm 55 and I have always laughed while watching Spongebob with my son as he was growing up. Yes, adults can recognize a good children's film or cartoon. Remember, EVERY adult was once a child at one point in their life.
I miss the old villains. Where villains were evil just bc they were evil, sure some had tragic backstories, but they weren't misunderstood, they still did bad shit, and trauma wasn't an excuse. Where are the amazing villain songs? How did we went from Hellfire, Friends from the other side, Be prepared, unfortunate souls, mother knows best.....to "I let you live rent free and I don't even charge you rent"? Hell, Jafar didn't even have a song of his own, he has a reprise of Prince Ali, and was still impactful
I saw somewhere that the original concept was to be a tribute to the history of animation at Disney. The original title was "When You Wish Upon A Star", a throwback to Jiminy Cricket and the Disney theme. Word was the writers room got hijacked by the "for a modern audience" crowd and the whole storyline got twisted.
That doesn't even sound like a villain. If he wanted he could just keep his magic to himself, but he chooses to at least grant some wishes here and there. He's not going around rising zombies to conquer the world or something, or at least that's what I understood from this video.
A better story would be that the king turned out to be a good guy but the main character was led astray believing it would be better to grant all wishes when actually granting everyone's wishes would be chaotic, which is something they learn by the end of the film, kind of like the hero's journey. This would also work well as an allegory for greed, or the idea that you can't always get what you want.
Moreso in the middle. She grants everyone wishes but it's a disaster, so she finds a happy middle. He was only doing one wish a year which doesn't seem right.
Its commie propaganda to tell you that all wishes can be granted. Even good ones I wish for team A to win the competition. You wish for team B to win. Only one team can actually win. So what happens? Who gets their wish? Don’t give me that tie shit. If every game ended in a tie who would watch the game?
I watched it and its like every disney trope/stereotype ever put into one movie. 1. Quirky female protagonist 2. Cute animal companion 3. Talking singing animals 4. “NEVER GIVE UP ON YOUR DREAMS” 5. Edgy and serious friend that helps the main character 6. Character that is seen as saviour and reveals to be evil 7. Friendship and love saves the day for no reason to easily end the movie
The strange thing about Wish getting basically no promotion is that it was meant to celebrate the company's 100th anniversary. I have to imagine there was some supreme hubris, they must have thought the ultimate flex would be to do the bare minimum of marketing and have it come out the gate swinging.
They advertised it on Instagram. As in, they put all of the important scenes of the film on reels and still expected ppl to want to watch it. Like, bruh, dont show everything for free like that.
They didn't market it because it wasn't made for a profit, but to copyright strike all fairytales and fables that use wishing going forward. Disney hates that their money keeps getting put in the public domain, and has spent the last 100 years getting laws changed to own characters well past the allowed time. Micky Mouse should have been public domain years ago, so they made him the logo/mascot, and then claimed him as branding instead of a character.
Whats really annoying about this is that this premise for the movie could have been the foundation for something really special. Like what if the sorcerer was only granting the safest wishes because he thought the others were too dangerous for the world and the people who make them. He sees himself as a guardian using his power to protect the world the only way he knows how, by limiting the potential of some people for the safety of the world. That could have been genuinely interesting and could have resulted in a fascinating villain that we've not seen before.
In unamed retail place I work at in the mall, we received 3 or 4 shipments of Wish merchandise BEFORE Haloween for our Black Friday Sales... none of them are selling. We haven't sold a single product. And nobody really knew what the movie was about when we received the products
Charlie completely through me off when he said The Incredibles was 29 years old. It felt like my entire universe had been shattered for a solid few seconds
Seeing Disney fail to make quality kids media, which used to be their whole thing, then turn around and cancel shows like the Owl House, which is a phenomenal show for all ages, disappoints me.
@@rewandemontayIt was announced as being cancelled, and it was the backlash of the fans that kept the show in production, albeit what was meant to be an entire season was shortened to a few forty-minute specials.
honestly i'm beginning to think Bluey is the only good kid-friendly content left nowadays. Bluey's damn great though, but kids surely want something more.@@hayp682
The fact that Disney had little hype behind it and didn't really advertise it says everything you need to know. Disney will debase themselves advertising bad movies. But that they didn't this movie is telling.
@@hamsterrwrld6767 "Just got out of a big strike" doesn't justify mediocrity. If Disney continues to fail to satisfy their audience, it'll eventually fall apart.
6:38 funny you should mention AI, because tons of people have speculated that this movie was made with AI. As someone who wants to compose music for a living, that's terrifying to me
It's actually so disappointing when you look at previous character designs that they scrapped. Like it could have been so much better, there could have been potential romance with a magical star boy, an evil couple and wayyy better character designs. This could have been so unique but they chose to make it generic. The main character of wish just looks like Isabella from encanto but with braids.
I thought you said The Incredibles was 29 years old and I had an existential crisis. Then I remembered, you're 29 and was referring to yourself. Had a sigh of relief... until I remembered that the Incredibles released in 2004, and that's still NINETEEN years ago.
The ending was really bad, but what’s even more frustrating is that they had a better ending in their lap and they didn’t use it. They previously set up that her grandpa could write music that would incite a mob if he got his wish. After she gave him his wish back, that should have been how the towns people came together to defeat the wizard. It was already set up. It was right there.
Didn't watch the movie so take it as it is, but glad they didn't go with it, cause it seems the people would had move cause of a brainwash instead of their true feelings (or whatever it was)
I think the problem with Disney is that they don't want to try anything new. They strike gold with one project (MCU Phase 1-3, The Mandalorian, Frozen/Encanto) and use that as the formula for every new piece of work while drastically increasing the quality and budgets while not focusing on the writing or production, and suddenly they're all surprised after audiences stop watching their shows and movies.
Hell, it's not even raising quality, they raise the quantity too much and want it out IMMEDIATELY. It shows in the quality, i feel bad for the creative teams.
Something was off in the animation… Tangled came out over a decade ago and looks miles better. Disney is obviously shitting out anything hoping for profit, i’m quite convinced Disneys going broke at this point.
Its a company worth billions, they are going broke, not even in a decade. Their spendings may be utter shit but they would have to go down this trend for a good long time before they even get to being broke.
This is what I thought! The animation is way less detailed than earlier films. If you look at the backgrounds in most scenes the lack of effort is even more apparent.
@@thattonnatoguywithafez8246 idk man, its not only the loss they take per movie, but because they're a publicly traded company they could spook investors and make the entire place implode. lord knows it doesnt take much for investors to withdraw their money.
@@thattonnatoguywithafez8246not as long as you might think. They “only” made $9B in profit for FY2023. That’s a ton of money, but that’s a 68% DECREASE from 2022! They’re burning money at an astonishing rate and not bringing as much back in. They can’t keep this up going into FY2024.
By the sound of it, are we sure they _didn't_ write the script using AI? This whole movie could be a Disney experiment in seeing if they could create a movie using some secretly developed software.
wouldnt be surprised if they’re already trying to take advantage of AI to be able to just pump out generic films 24/7. we’re getting pretty close to the destruction of the film industry.
I guess the experiment failed cause everyone is accusing the movie of being AI generated, it's so generic that it's easy to believe that. So better luck next time Disney!
Someone should animate an Austrian painter in that style getting his wish granted and having be like a Vietnam flashback for the villain. Then he just wishes the chick away so she can't cause any damage 😂
Did watch the movie and honestly? Yeah, for the most part, he was a good guy and the main character was absolutely unreasonable. And then suddenly they made him pure evil in the end because I guess beating a villain that isn't pure evil might upset people or something Idk
The sad thing is, there are probably 11 year olds right now who hear about the "Magic of Disney" and its amazing reputation as a film studio and have no idea what people are talking about because all they have seen are Elemental or something like Wish. They haven't had their Lion King or Aladdin yet.
If Disney really cared about celebrating the legacy and history of 100 years, they should have pulled out all the stops and made a traditionally animated movie (hand drawn vs the cg.) Gone back to their roots and what it was that made them famous in the first place. Hell I would have even taken something like Fantasia 202X put to some of the most iconic composed pieces in the company's history.
Hell releasing their big movies for a week or so to theaters would’ve been a better and cheaper move. They used to do that a decent amount back in the day. Been rewatching Defunctland’s video on the party Walt threw after Snow White came out and the Union talks and actions from back then just feel like looking in a mirror now. Different era. Same exact problems.
Impossible, it would cost too much money to do traditionnal animation movie and AI isn't ready yet to produce for them a fully uninspired and visually borring movie (with all the ethical problem as a bonus but they don't care because they have, for now, money)
I know Charlie won't see this but I figured I'd add my two cents. My uncle is a senior animator at Disney and worked on Wish. I had the opportunity to watch the film in theaters with him. He prefaced us going into the movie with "the story is just ok, not my favorite". He also let us know that this is meant to be like a 100 years of Disney hurrah so they added LOTS of easter eggs from previous films. Some were quite obvious like Bambi and Thumper and others a little more concealed like the main character's friends being the seven dwarves. I think the main focus for the movie was less, "let's make a great movie" and more, how can we fit as many references to our 100 year history in one film.
If it was a minor facet like “the jokes are not my favourite”, or hairstyles, or the intro… that’s acceptable. But a movie *is* a story! Could you ask him about the rumours of “activist” taking over? I think that’s an exaggeration, maybe better to say: people who vocally support the _correct_ political stances, rather than being skilled.
You know what's the funniest part? Disney already had a perfectly good project to celebrate their 100th anniversary. The actually captivating and endearing "Once Upon A Studio". They even masterfully pulled off the blending of 2D and 3D animated characters there. Then they released "Wish" for the actual anniversary
I’d say Roger Rabbit and even Space Jam handled the mixing of those mediums better. The 2D characters don’t even really get shadows when an object is in front of them
Not to mention there’s some ‘kids’ movies that get better as you get older, like wall-e. Goes from a goofy movie about a funny robot as a kid to a genuinely heartwarming love story as an adult
I work at Macy's, where we have a Toys r Us department, and we're chock full of the toys and honestly I thought it was just a toy line not a movie. I've literally put the toys on the shelves, packed them for shipment to customers, and thought this. That's how little publicity this movie has gotten.
Thank you for explaining the ending of this miraculous film to me because when it happened, I didn't understand what was actually transpiring. And then the movie just ended and I was left confused
They haven't been an animation studio for a long time, not surprised it was lacking. Imagine that, most known animation studio for decades, suddenly abandoning their roots and becoming known for bad writing, bad live action remakes and capitalism overkill, buying every IP known to man and ruining them all whilst still making bank.
Honestly, generic and boring are much worse than bad. Bad can be talked about, bad can be entertaining and thought provoking. Generic and boring leaves nothing and is forgotten as quickly as it is viewed. Even when you think of a bad movie that is just awful in every way, the taste it leaves sticks cause it's a nasty but memorable taste. Something amazing sticks with you because of all the good flavors it leaves on your memory. But boring? Boring is a rice cake. Consumed because you wanted something and it's so flavorless that you even forget you ate it. You'll remember the slop, you'll remember the gourmet dinner, you'll forget the rice cake right after you eat it.
I saw tons of advertisements for it….. on the A train. And none anywhere else. The new trains had advertisements pop up every 30 seconds or so, and the platforms with screens had advertisements on rotation as well, but I never seen a commercial/add for it.
I've yet to fully understand the plot. A girl finds a star and it does something. Then there's a bad guy who wants it. There's a talking goat too. That's it lol.
@arf3433 Ya the characters hardly have any development whatsoever and nothing is really explained. They're all boring and meaningless. Magnifico just suddenly turns evil and we don't know why. There's no background story that tries to justify his views and actions. It's like a bunch of 5 year olds came up with this story.
@@johnpurdy3336 or like people came up with plot ideas. Then the head execs were like nope to every idea and cuts off brain storming for everything that was missing. Then just decided it'll make money and went with it.
@@MariaWarrenWrites Yes in the case of ChatGPT, but GPT 3 came out in 2020, and GPT 2 was released in 2019. So this type of AI has been out for more than 4 years now. I don't khow how good it was back then compared to now tho
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"A children's story that can only be enjoyed by children is not a good children's story in the slightest." -- C.S Lewis
And that’s a fact.
Man spoke facts
Big facts.
He said it more succinctly , but I want to add that any piece of art that gets worse the more you know, is not good.
There's stories out there that get better the more you look at them and the more you understand, like Lilo and Stitch or Wall-E. Then there are ones like Wreck it Ralph 2.
@@StickmanWithARocketSword Dude the only reason I even remember Wreck-It-Ralph 2 exists is because of Shadman's art being seared into my brain. That's not a good thing.
One of my biggest complaints about the film is that they for some godforsaken reason decided to hire composers who had zero experience in musical theatre and only wrote pop music…for a 100th anniversary Disney film…like what????
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts 💨
No lie it sounded like Taylor Swift was performing every song.
They should've brought back Hans Zimmer or something.
thats probably all they could afford with all these flops.
because "cheaper" lol
Fun fact, in the early stages of development, this movie was actually meant to be fully traditionally animated in 2D, however they scrapped that idea because of "limits on camera movement and characterization". Which is just corporate speak for skill issue
I am an entity of the corporation.
It's a very easy fix too they could have just used 3d models for reference than drawn over it 💀
Limits on camera movement? First thing I thought about was James Baxter's ballroom scene in Beauty and the Beast😂
Easy, they fired all the competent, skilled people who have been doing animation for years. While the rest are on strike
Animators at Disney have pretty much confirmed there will never be another full 2D animated Disney feature again, because the talent, equipment, and processes are all gone for good, and even if that wasn't the case, the culture is actively hostile to 2D animators. And Disney's own staff are the ones claiming this.
So yes, skill issue.
Charlie: “It’s not bad.”
Also Charlie: “It’s really, really, painfully generic… It’s legitimately a full blown marketing campaign that could have been used as a commercial but was stretched into a feature length film…The ending is terrible. The ending is so, so, so bad…They didn’t even really have a story to tell.”
Damn, I can’t even imagine what he’d have to say about a movie he thought was bad.
it IS bad. maybe people feel the need to emphasize it's not bad because it doesn't _look_ bad. the shots, the protagonist, the poster look really good, but that's all.
well, knowing Charlie, if it was genuinely terrible, he'd probably love it lmao I seem to remember the following quote "drawn like a fly to a pile of sh!t" with regard to Charlie's adoration for truly awful films and tv
A "bad" movie has the potential to be extremely enjoyable on an ironic level - the "so bad it's good" phenomenon. A mediocre movie doesn't have that potential. It just... exists. More of a "so okay it's average" kind of thing. Good or bad, the one thing a piece of art should never be is forgettable.
There’s still something’s to enjoy about it
@@Abel-xn2wu Name one. And if you even think about mentioning the "music", instant turn away from me.
Friendly reminder that Wish had a budget of $200 million, while the 2 Spider-Verse movies put together only total to $190 million. How is that even physically possible. There has to be massive accounting fraud going on at Disney or something, because Wish doesn’t even look a tenth as good as those movies yet it cost twice as much to make.
And had to have taken far less time to make. Cause both Spiderverse films have been massive and lengthy works of love. So yeah you raise a damn good point.
its gotta be fraud
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Budget doesn't actually entail the quality of an animated product but passion and love from the artists themselves
They prob wasted money on pure shit like blizzard paying for 2000 voice actors
What hurts me the most is the scrapped starboy concept. Disney replaced him with that generic little star because he was "too hard to design." They were on the cusp of delivering a Disney princess movie about a princess falling in love with a shape-shifting shooting star and teaming up with him to fight Disney's first every villain couple. A classic Disney film, appropriate for the 100 year celebration. AND THEY SCRAPPED IT BECAUSE IT WAS "TOO HARD TO DESIGN."
Their test audience will say shit like “She doesn’t need a man’s help to defeat them”
Seeing the reception to that new snow white actresses’s comments about this exact thing, I highly doubt the majority of people would actually say this, especially if it was actually well written/sweet like most fan theories going around are saying the wish writers could have handled it @@h.t.awesome3822
WE WERE FUCKING ROBBED 😭😭😭😭
Meanwhile The Collector from Owl House is basically a Star Child, lmao.
@@h.t.awesome3822test audience will say MAKE HER GAY AND MAKE IT LAME
"Not having a story to tell" seems to be a major issue at Disney
It's like a writer submitted a thinly-veiled threat against the Disney executives in script form and the joke got out of hand
I wish Disney would take a risk and make a traditional 2D animated film again.
Would be worth seeing just for being something different.
That would be so awesome if it was good, I honestly miss 2D animation
This is how I feel about anime. I want the 90’s art style to make a comeback.
nah, at this point I just want to see them go under. i want dozens of smaller companies to take their place and make masterpieces from actual passion projects.
How is that taking a risk?
@@VenosValentineshut ur mouth
It's almost like they realized "Oh shit it's the 100th anniversary this year" and slapped a gift together from found objects. Except it cost $200 million.
@@Sir_Psych
Stolen comment.
Across the Spider-Verse only cost $100 million. That Wish cost twice as much shouldn’t even be scientifically possible.
@@fatcat22able some shit aint adding up my boy i think your right, mathematically, scientifically. How is this possible? They breached a gap in the space-time continuum.
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@@fatcat22ableIt’s incredibly possible, the Spider-verse team was overworked and probably underpaid
The biggest flaw when people try and argue that you can’t criticize something made for kids if you’re an adult is the fact that adults made it. It was a bunch of kids making a movie for kids, yeah who cares. But if it’s a studio of adults, and especially if they pitch that film is something that might be family friendly, then everyone has the right to critique it.
I wonder if, due to the writer's strike or something, this was their first attempt at an AI written Disney movie. You know... testing the waters a bit to see how it would do. Basically ChatGPT learned off all previous Disney movies and made it's best attempt at a new one.
The fact that you can't tell the difference between lowest common denomination millinials and Gen z writers apart from ai is genuinely very amusing. These are your peers. This is what they think is passable. And a lot of you pay to see it. 😂yikes
@@lucamckenn5932Turning legitimate criticism of a piece of work into "your generation sux lol lmao" is a fucking Olympic-level leap bro. Congrats.
@@thatdude337kinda true though
@shyguy85 except it isn't because on what planet would it be largely millennials and GEN Z making decisions at Disney, creative or otherwise?
I also could see someone having the exact same reaction to countless shit scripts that I know of written by 40 - 70 year olds so
Yeah no
Chats only been around a year or so. I think this one is just bad writing, which weve seen more and more of. And the strike was way too recent to effect this one. Disney just forgot how to connect with audiences and tell stories with heart
I *WISH* that Disney would take the hint that what they're doing is ruining their reputation.
I see what you did there
@@SMCwasTakendo you? I don’t. It’s so not obvious that it definitely warrants a comment
@@WubbyPunchwhat is the name of the movie charlie is talking about.... and than re read the comment.. Enjoy!
I wish that disney would be deleted
@@laa0fa502 Your ability to detect sarcasm is second to none.
the fact that disney was so out of ideas that they modeled their antagonist based on their own actions is the most artistic thing about this movie 😭 WILD
Yes, I'll take the L+ratio and say I'm a Disney shill (not a Disney adult, I don't buy merch and I know what happened to Ubbe Iwerks and Don Bluth)
Because they're the only fellas out there doing original animated feature musicals that isn't an illumination jukebox...
And I'm in the wrong fucking hemisphere and continent to go on a night out for a Broadway or West end show for a new musical.
@@utubrGaming ok?
@@sandraswan9008 Homie REALLY likes musicals.
@@utubrGaming I respect your passion for musical theater but at the same time, I would heavily recommend against Disney. Yes they may be the only studio still making musical animation that's not trolls, but there quality, work ethic and business practices have taking such a massive dumpster dive to the point where I would rather watch trolls sober, over watching wish drunk out of my mind (and I don't even drink)
I'm just imagining a starved writer disguising their cries for help and complaints about the company as stories
I can't really blame the "villain" for wanting to keep his kingdom safe, imagine if he'd just grant every wish ever. Every Jeffrey Dahmer and Chris Chan's wish coming true, we'd live in a swirling abyss of chaos and poorly made OC drawings come to life.
If the villain granted every wish, realistically the kingdom would last only a few seconds
A Child Somewhere: *Cant go outside due to rain* I wish there was no more rain
Villain: Wish granted! *Removes possibility of rain*
Kingdom: *All water gradually evaporates and never falls, reducing the kingdom to a dry desert*
Then why did he let anyone wish to him in the first place ?
@@ricardozetino6907Because he’s cool duh
Who is Chris Chan?
@@Firebolt7317it’s been 4 months, idk who’s gonna tell him
The shitty thing is that the suits at Disney are going to take away the wrong message: The art style is what made it bad. They're going to continue pumping out the same lame formula with the same lame art style, and they won't dare adjust it because the one time they did (Wish), they botched it. And they're not going to blame the writers.
sad part is that’s what some people are actually saying.
People criticizing it for being mid is valid. But I also noticed that the movie has been getting a “Wind Waker” treatment, in that some people don’t like it solely for the art style. Which will probably convince Disney even more not to change and not to experiment further with different styles.
This style wasn't even supposed to be as it was, it was intended to be a 2D film and they used a lotta tricks to pretty it up. For what we got, they did solid with what they had because tryna make 3D look 2Dish is near impossible.
The “evil sorcerer” is honestly the most reasonable Disney villain ever. Yeah some people probably wish for very bad things and those wishes shouldn’t be granted.
Lol calm down lil bro
@@priesttrash6338You're the one who needs to calm down 💀
Penguinz0 says a whole lot of nothing. Boring. My animations are vastly superior.
Him only going granting certain wishes that please him would've made more sense
Yeah. Like, hes a narcisist, but hes smarter then asha. What if someone wishes their neighbor fell in love with them? Or that someone died so they could get their money? Or to replace all oceans with chocolate?
Hell, the movie could have made that point. Have asha go against the king bc hes douchey, then chaos starts and they work together to fix everything while developing their characters. Asha learns not to be so naive and the king learns to be more humble or smth
I don't get why companies like Disney aren't willing to take creative risks anymore. Disney has enough money to take some risk and still function without so much as a scratch yet they keep pumping out mediocre films it's beyond pathetic at this point how much they've dropped in quality for the sake of quantity
The thing about risks is that they're risky. Big news, I know.
Yeah, but they're saying that Disney has so much resources by this point that any possible consequences from risks taken would be insubstantial compared to the scale of their company. @@tarael86
Christian parents hate creativity.
There's less competition now so they don't need to try. Especially now that parents don't care about film quality anymore. The past 10 years of Disney films have been a downward slope of quality.
Disney is literally just too big to fail. Even a tremendous flop like Wish will make its money back through streaming or literally just any other avenue of income Disney has, since they basically own the children's entertainment industry
I haven’t seen the movie but the villain’s evilness doesn’t even sound that evil.
He only grants wishes that will be safe for the kingdom? Yeah that sounds like what a responsible ruler would do-
He only grants wishes that are conducive to him staying in *power* , not in the best interests of his subjects. 100% narcissistic dictator...
“So they unionized” Was incredible
Imagine making a character who lets people live in his kingdom for free. He doesn't coerce them, trick or force them. They willingly come and WILLINGLY give up their wishes and still- live happy.
And hes somehow the bad guy
The movie also happens to be kind of communist/socialist propaganda. Even though, like you said, he lets them live there for pretty much free, because it's a single person in charge of making sure no bad wishes come true, it suddenly means he's the worst person ever. Saw another review of the movie and they pointed out why you can let every wish come true, sometimes those wishes will clash and be impossible for them to become true. Can't have someone wish that Person A wins a competition while someone else wishes that Person B wins. One person's wish simply can't come true because someone has to lose or they both lose (aka a tie).
I mean only granting one wish a year sounds pretty shitty, but from all I'm reading they definitely could've did a better job showing he's evil
@LJK401 tbf not every wish should be granted, if he did that it would be chaos. Yeah he's a jerk, but the dude isn't the only evil in the world is he?
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 yeah but he also could choose not to give out any wishes at all
@@queenAmenahbestvldeosonytur parents dont give u attention right
When an Adam Sandler movie about a talking iguana has more merit and inspirations than a Disney movie released at the same time, then you know Disney really gotta shake things up.
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Excuse me a talking what?
It was a pretty neat movie, nothing crazily complicated or thought provoking but I don’t think it was trying to be anything like that. Just a cute, fun kids movie
Adam Sandler asks for $40 million for a budget and only spends $5 million, pockets the rest. I used to love Adam Sandler but he's just a massive con artist, just like Disney.
@@UTTPCaptaincringe
I think it would have been a cool twist to have Asha turn out to be this awful person that is actually some sort of villain, and have it be hinted throughout the film that we don't know our protagonist as well as we thought! when she's revealed, her goofy, and annoyingly quirky personality could have been just an awful coverup for evil.
Tbh that would have been a good twist
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Stay strong.
You can do it!
Disney is really struggling now that people actually care about the quality of their films. Its been downhill for awhile.
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts 💨
nah people have always cared, disney just started to care less and less. its not that the bar got higher (if anything its gotten lower), its that disney keeps stooping lower and lower
@@-Hari-03 This is what happens when you pander.
@@memestockstories5919what happened?
@@memestockstories5919It’s always pandering with you people 😂 Who is Disney pandering to exactly?
Fun, or unfunny, piece of trivia: the idea was to have a villainous couple with an evil king and queen. The only unique thing it could've had, and they deleted it.
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@@UTTPCaptain
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God, it would have been amazing if they had a Gomez-Morticia dynamic.
yep, and white man bad unless its a woman. The queen became the king, literally.
@@mp6732... What?
In my opinion the worst thing a movie can do is be generic. There's a line where a movie is so bad that it starts to become entertaining and being generic gets right to cusp of that line and stops.
So the bad guy (Disney allegory) was defeated by all the working class banding together (unionizing) and wishing so hard (pro union lobbying) that their wishes were fulfilled and the bad guy was beaten? Huh, interesting.
Seeing the concept designs and the plans they had for the movie, and then seeing the final product is greatly disappointing imo.
I know right? I think a team from the studio changed unnecessary things, the main character not having a love interest, the villian not just being evil, the animals talking. Wish could've been way better if the sorcerer was just evil who kept the wishes to be stronger and granted the wishes, like the best tailor wish, to attract people to his kingdom.
Let's keep it real, though. If you're watching Disney movies in your 30s, you need to talk to somebody. I haven't seen a Disney movie since that one about the fox and the dog. They're good for little children, but they're not for masculine guys.
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@@Zenigundamoh god not you
@@Zenigundam "WHERE ARE ALL THE MASCULINE MEN?!" energy 💀💀💀💀
Never really understood the 'it's only for children' angle. The parents have to buy the tickets and escort the aforementioned tots to the theater, and often are nearby when the kids put a movie onto the tv. They are absolutely going to be experiencing it, so they may as well go watch something they can also derive some enjoyment from as well. .
It's an excuse to get away with giving the bare minimum, or worse. People like that, tend to think children are stupid(and well, yeah. Kids are dumb, cause they are still developing.), thus, with that low bar, anything should be 'good enough', even if it's trash.
You'll notice that every talented writer of children's content doesn't subscribe to that way of thinking.
But the hacks, and people who cannot write to save their lives, love to push that line out.
They did the same thing with Black Panther and Captain Marvel. If somebody criticized the films they would just say “the film wasn’t made for you”
Exactly why is say Frozen a kids movie but enjoyed by adults. I heard the parents say it was a really good movie to other parents without even the kids being there 🤷🏻♂️
@@corvus8638I think we’re entering a weird post-criticism world. I was just commenting on games recently how if you criticize one, someone one will inevitably say “well I’m having fun” which when you think about it is really just a variation of “well the film wasn’t made for you”
@joelmcknight9995 not really. It's perfectly fine to say you enjoy the game while someone else doesn't. Likewise it's perfectly fine to say what someone enjoys about a game, is what you don't enjoy about it
Great example is rainbow 6, I personally hate how it's a competitive space that leaves no room for casual play, but my friend loves it because it's a competitive space. And that's perfectly fine.
8:25 The only thing that's allowed to sing to defeat the "bad guy" is Adventure Time... And even there it actually makes sense why that defeats it
It's funny how Once Upon A Studio showed more of Disney's creative side for the 100 year anniversary, then the actual theatrical production.
They really defeated the villain with the power of song, completely out of nowhere. Even My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic didn't have the gall to do that, not without at least first establishing that they indeed needed to sing to cast a spell and channel their magic.
There's a whole treasure trove of shows marketed towards children that have well-written stories executed in a proper fashion. It's odd that a movie, with a multimillion dollar budget, can't achieve that same success.
Well they had to satisfy the Broneys…
@@nintendofan69 _Who_ had to satisfy the Bronies? Bronies don't give a fuck about Disney.
Even MLP had at least one Dragonball level fight at one point, complete with giant lasers...
Too bad the writers didn’t think to have one of the characters wish for the movie to be good. That would have solved all their problems.
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Penguinz0 says a whole lot of nothing. Boring. My animations are vastly superior.
Single digit ages have invaded the reply section here
That joke is so funny. I want to kiss you now
Well they only had 200 million bucks . . . how could they afford a writer?
0:40 sorry what?
They literally kicked out all the experienced creatives, and hired inexperienced activists.. Explains it all, 'Evil cannot create, only destroy'..
What a way to commemorate Disney’s history, it really shows the devolution of the film industry over these 100 years. One word: Bravo 👏🏻
Oh yea today’s film industry is greatly devolved and surely worse than The Birth of a Nation for sure. L opinion
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@ryand7239 tf are you talking about😂
@@ryand7239
Birth of a Nation came out in 1915. 1923 was well into the avant-garde era, dominated by German expressionism…which of course a certain mustache man hated as “degenerate art.”
@@warlordofbritannia yea but disney was a nazi either way lol
People better not blame the animators for this, blame disney directly, they meddled with the movie throughout the whole development.
The Disney execs need to stay in their lane and should have ZERO influence on what the films they make are about because this is what u get. Really bland, boring, uninspired films that don't do anything well. It's just a forgettable film that didn't do anything.
And the execs are not going to see the film’s failure as their fault for messing with it, they’ll just do it again which is the sad part
@@hyperstarman6848 Exactly 💯
And the simple fact that they keep pushing woke garbage.
Disney is just way to unemotional, I think it’s because they don’t want to make anything seem offensive when literally most of the movies before weren’t. Now jokes have a worse star rating than dads.
7:40 ad played at the perfect time to troll me 😂
Atlantis and treasure planet are such underrated movies that I still enjoy at 20 years old as much as I did when I was 10. All big movie companies just care about pumping out something people will throw money at for no reason
Its sad that so many new movies feel so generic now, companies like disney really should be more willing to take more creative risks, rather than always doing the same boring concept
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts 💨
once companies get large enough to have a gigantic investor base, they tend not to take risks because all the investors will just pull out at the slightest red bar and make the company implode.
Especially with where Disney started
They care more about profits than actually creating inventive content
41 years ago, Disney released Tron. That was one of the biggest risks they've ever made, and it took so much effort and time to make (they literally drew every neon light by hand frame by frame). It did amazing, and it's really sad to see that they're afraid to make risks now. If they have billions of dollars to burn on crappy movies like Marvels or Eternals (that's MCU movies alone) then they're able to take risks. If they flop, it's not like they're making any less money than they already are.
I'd argue that one of the strengths of the Incredibles, is that it wasn't written for kids. It was written for families in general, so it increased the likelihood that it'd resonate with a larger audience.
Part of the strength in The Incredibles writing is that they don't shy away with heavy adult subjects like the relationship problem in Bob's household, or the murder of Gazerbeam, hell even the main antagonist is straight up written like Homelander. The Incredibles manages to portray all of this heavy subjects in such a light family friendly way, the writing is just Incredible
"so it increased the likelihood that it'd resonate with a larger audience"
That's like, so 2005... These days it's all about aiming movies and entire series at the smallest demographics within the audience. Don't you want to be hip and cool?!?!?
/s
@@cascadiacedar6326get this man some series' to ruin this moment!
As someone who was born in the 90s, there were lots of shows and movies in my times that had deeply mature themes I don't see in shows and movies of the present. Hey Arnold! or The Hunchback of Notre Dame both dealt with heavy shit such as prejudice and discrimination towards people for their poverty and appearance, but in ways that are so 👌 that I don't think they can compare to how these issues are handled by entertainment media in our present (they're mediocre).
“It’s children’s media, it’s not supposed to be enjoyable to adults”
*Bluey stares from the corner*
01:55 ... I'm 55 and I have always laughed while watching Spongebob with my son as he was growing up. Yes, adults can recognize a good children's film or cartoon. Remember, EVERY adult was once a child at one point in their life.
Remember when every new Disney movie was made to showcase how far animation and storytelling could be pushed? Pepperidge farm remembers.
I miss the old villains. Where villains were evil just bc they were evil, sure some had tragic backstories, but they weren't misunderstood, they still did bad shit, and trauma wasn't an excuse. Where are the amazing villain songs? How did we went from Hellfire, Friends from the other side, Be prepared, unfortunate souls, mother knows best.....to "I let you live rent free and I don't even charge you rent"?
Hell, Jafar didn't even have a song of his own, he has a reprise of Prince Ali, and was still impactful
@@queenAmenahbestvldeosonyt you didn’t make animation you made a gacha life, that is not you animating.
So do the member berries..
Did you know that cats can be gay lesbian or bisexual :3
@@Freckle_McMurraywhat does that have to do with anything?
I saw somewhere that the original concept was to be a tribute to the history of animation at Disney. The original title was "When You Wish Upon A Star", a throwback to Jiminy Cricket and the Disney theme. Word was the writers room got hijacked by the "for a modern audience" crowd and the whole storyline got twisted.
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Is the villain even really a villain in this movie? His motivation from the trailer doesn’t even seem that bad.
That doesn't even sound like a villain. If he wanted he could just keep his magic to himself, but he chooses to at least grant some wishes here and there.
He's not going around rising zombies to conquer the world or something, or at least that's what I understood from this video.
No but he’s not using his power to fight for anything so that means he’s automatically “eViL”!!!!!!
A better story would be that the king turned out to be a good guy but the main character was led astray believing it would be better to grant all wishes when actually granting everyone's wishes would be chaotic, which is something they learn by the end of the film, kind of like the hero's journey. This would also work well as an allegory for greed, or the idea that you can't always get what you want.
Penguinz0 says a whole lot of nothing. Boring. My animations are vastly superior.
Moreso in the middle. She grants everyone wishes but it's a disaster, so she finds a happy middle. He was only doing one wish a year which doesn't seem right.
Its commie propaganda to tell you that all wishes can be granted. Even good ones
I wish for team A to win the competition. You wish for team B to win. Only one team can actually win. So what happens? Who gets their wish? Don’t give me that tie shit. If every game ended in a tie who would watch the game?
@@Jair2435 Ah yes Disney the multibillionndollar company is famously very communist and for the people
@@Jair2435Competition is bourgeoisie morality, comrade
It's not "bad".
It's just soulless and corporate.
Which is what Disney is
0:24 He doesn't remember Stange world came out in 2022. so lets keep it that way
I watched it and its like every disney trope/stereotype ever put into one movie.
1. Quirky female protagonist
2. Cute animal companion
3. Talking singing animals
4. “NEVER GIVE UP ON YOUR DREAMS”
5. Edgy and serious friend that helps the main character
6. Character that is seen as saviour and reveals to be evil
7. Friendship and love saves the day for no reason to easily end the movie
The strange thing about Wish getting basically no promotion is that it was meant to celebrate the company's 100th anniversary. I have to imagine there was some supreme hubris, they must have thought the ultimate flex would be to do the bare minimum of marketing and have it come out the gate swinging.
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They advertised it on Instagram. As in, they put all of the important scenes of the film on reels and still expected ppl to want to watch it. Like, bruh, dont show everything for free like that.
Happy 100 year anniversary your company is nearly bankrupt 👏👏👏
They didn't market it because it wasn't made for a profit, but to copyright strike all fairytales and fables that use wishing going forward. Disney hates that their money keeps getting put in the public domain, and has spent the last 100 years getting laws changed to own characters well past the allowed time. Micky Mouse should have been public domain years ago, so they made him the logo/mascot, and then claimed him as branding instead of a character.
@@queenAmenahbestvldeosonyt🤡🤡🤡🤖🤖🤖
Whats really annoying about this is that this premise for the movie could have been the foundation for something really special. Like what if the sorcerer was only granting the safest wishes because he thought the others were too dangerous for the world and the people who make them. He sees himself as a guardian using his power to protect the world the only way he knows how, by limiting the potential of some people for the safety of the world.
That could have been genuinely interesting and could have resulted in a fascinating villain that we've not seen before.
I mean that kinda is what he believes though..
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Then they introduced evil magic making it pointless
@@asain3586 but it’s still his motivation, which is what this comment was about.
So a metaphor for God?
@@SinTransphobicTrigger?
In unamed retail place I work at in the mall, we received 3 or 4 shipments of Wish merchandise BEFORE Haloween for our Black Friday Sales... none of them are selling. We haven't sold a single product. And nobody really knew what the movie was about when we received the products
Charlie completely through me off when he said The Incredibles was 29 years old. It felt like my entire universe had been shattered for a solid few seconds
Wait, 29?!
Edit: Ah, its 19, I was super confused for a sec 😂
Seeing Disney fail to make quality kids media, which used to be their whole thing, then turn around and cancel shows like the Owl House, which is a phenomenal show for all ages, disappoints me.
That show is shit bro
Technical point: TOH wasn't canceled---it got shortened.
@@hayp682a fellow fantasia fan. My favorite was bald mountain. It was the animation that brought me to try animation as my original dream job
@@rewandemontayIt was announced as being cancelled, and it was the backlash of the fans that kept the show in production, albeit what was meant to be an entire season was shortened to a few forty-minute specials.
honestly i'm beginning to think Bluey is the only good kid-friendly content left nowadays. Bluey's damn great though, but kids surely want something more.@@hayp682
The fact that Disney had little hype behind it and didn't really advertise it says everything you need to know. Disney will debase themselves advertising bad movies. But that they didn't this movie is telling.
You realize we just got out of a big strike correct? Or were you just born?
@@hamsterrwrld6767
"Just got out of a big strike" doesn't justify mediocrity.
If Disney continues to fail to satisfy their audience, it'll eventually fall apart.
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I saw tons of ads for this movie
@@hamsterrwrld6767 How long do you think movies take to be made? It was RELEASED coming out of a strike. It takes years to make a movie.
6:38 funny you should mention AI, because tons of people have speculated that this movie was made with AI. As someone who wants to compose music for a living, that's terrifying to me
My issue with the movie is the absence of CLOD. How are you supposed to hype up the theater audience without him?!?!
It's actually so disappointing when you look at previous character designs that they scrapped. Like it could have been so much better, there could have been potential romance with a magical star boy, an evil couple and wayyy better character designs. This could have been so unique but they chose to make it generic.
The main character of wish just looks like Isabella from encanto but with braids.
Charlie wearing anything other than his normal outfit is like a beach episode to me, he's using the goods to keep retention up
Yeah like how a kids show has the main characters wear different outfits when they go to somewhere to match the theme of the episode.
I thought you said The Incredibles was 29 years old and I had an existential crisis.
Then I remembered, you're 29 and was referring to yourself. Had a sigh of relief... until I remembered that the Incredibles released in 2004, and that's still NINETEEN years ago.
Seeing them fail at their now obvious cash grabs makes me happy, because it makes me hopeful that they'll actually try to be creative again
The ending was really bad, but what’s even more frustrating is that they had a better ending in their lap and they didn’t use it. They previously set up that her grandpa could write music that would incite a mob if he got his wish. After she gave him his wish back, that should have been how the towns people came together to defeat the wizard. It was already set up. It was right there.
Didn't watch the movie so take it as it is, but glad they didn't go with it, cause it seems the people would had move cause of a brainwash instead of their true feelings (or whatever it was)
its a kids movie , if your 20-30 , its probably not for you , people forget that these movies are for kids
@@pbsuite Did you watch the video? or even read a single comment? lmfao
@@pbsuiteWhy are we making excuses for bad writing?
@@pbsuitewomp womp ‼️
I wish Disney took some notes from indie animators.
They'd rather steal ideas and execute them poorly than actually allow their artists and animators to be genuinely creative.
@@ChiefUTTPwhat content?
@@DR_L3G0 its just a bot
@@juicyskittle6020 I know.
there was hate for klaus it was good though
Charlie mentioning jeremy is the crossover i didnt know i needed until i got it
The ending described by charlie just sounds like the lorax
I think the problem with Disney is that they don't want to try anything new. They strike gold with one project (MCU Phase 1-3, The Mandalorian, Frozen/Encanto) and use that as the formula for every new piece of work while drastically increasing the quality and budgets while not focusing on the writing or production, and suddenly they're all surprised after audiences stop watching their shows and movies.
Hell, it's not even raising quality, they raise the quantity too much and want it out IMMEDIATELY. It shows in the quality, i feel bad for the creative teams.
Something was off in the animation… Tangled came out over a decade ago and looks miles better. Disney is obviously shitting out anything hoping for profit, i’m quite convinced Disneys going broke at this point.
Its a company worth billions, they are going broke, not even in a decade.
Their spendings may be utter shit but they would have to go down this trend for a good long time before they even get to being broke.
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This is what I thought! The animation is way less detailed than earlier films. If you look at the backgrounds in most scenes the lack of effort is even more apparent.
@@thattonnatoguywithafez8246 idk man, its not only the loss they take per movie, but because they're a publicly traded company they could spook investors and make the entire place implode. lord knows it doesnt take much for investors to withdraw their money.
@@thattonnatoguywithafez8246not as long as you might think.
They “only” made $9B in profit for FY2023. That’s a ton of money, but that’s a 68% DECREASE from 2022! They’re burning money at an astonishing rate and not bringing as much back in. They can’t keep this up going into FY2024.
You could say that disney wished that this was as "good" as everyone is saying.
Disney loves to talk about stars, but no longer reaches for them.
By the sound of it, are we sure they _didn't_ write the script using AI? This whole movie could be a Disney experiment in seeing if they could create a movie using some secretly developed software.
wouldnt be surprised if they’re already trying to take advantage of AI to be able to just pump out generic films 24/7. we’re getting pretty close to the destruction of the film industry.
I guess the experiment failed cause everyone is accusing the movie of being AI generated, it's so generic that it's easy to believe that. So better luck next time Disney!
@@9_1.1ai bros not destroying our jobs they are destroying the whole industry
exactly what i was thinking, thats so saddening. fuckin ai written scripts smh
"The day is saved by workers unionizing and eliminating the CEO entirely" is a weird direction for a Disney film to go in, but I'm here for it
That movie is literally a cry for help from the production team
I mean if it wasn’t so poorly written then maybe it would’ve been good, but here it’s just annoying.
It’s just “CURRENT THING” the movie
Lmfao
Cringe
Disney is really pndering to the Chinese Communist Party lately
Something that I've noticed that always makes Charlie's video titles stand out is even if the title is a question it never has any punctuation
So the main villain is basically defeated by the power of friendship
I didn’t watch the movie but the antagonist doesn’t even seem like a bad guy. He sounds smart honestly. Everyone can’t get their wishes granted.
Someone should animate an Austrian painter in that style getting his wish granted and having be like a Vietnam flashback for the villain. Then he just wishes the chick away so she can't cause any damage 😂
Did watch the movie and honestly? Yeah, for the most part, he was a good guy and the main character was absolutely unreasonable. And then suddenly they made him pure evil in the end because I guess beating a villain that isn't pure evil might upset people or something Idk
"How dare you decide what to do with wishes? I'm going to decide what to do with the wishes!" what a protagonist.
The sad thing is, there are probably 11 year olds right now who hear about the "Magic of Disney" and its amazing reputation as a film studio and have no idea what people are talking about because all they have seen are Elemental or something like Wish. They haven't had their Lion King or Aladdin yet.
I think it's hilarious that when he googled "Disney Wish" it showed the cruise ship first (not counting the news, I wouldnt count that)
If Disney really cared about celebrating the legacy and history of 100 years, they should have pulled out all the stops and made a traditionally animated movie (hand drawn vs the cg.) Gone back to their roots and what it was that made them famous in the first place. Hell I would have even taken something like Fantasia 202X put to some of the most iconic composed pieces in the company's history.
Hell releasing their big movies for a week or so to theaters would’ve been a better and cheaper move. They used to do that a decent amount back in the day.
Been rewatching Defunctland’s video on the party Walt threw after Snow White came out and the Union talks and actions from back then just feel like looking in a mirror now. Different era. Same exact problems.
Impossible, it would cost too much money to do traditionnal animation movie and AI isn't ready yet to produce for them a fully uninspired and visually borring movie (with all the ethical problem as a bonus but they don't care because they have, for now, money)
@@Shyrundernetflix made 2D animated movie "Klaus" for $40 mln this one had $200 mln budget
@@Shyrunder Klaus only costed 40 million to make and most would say it looks better than Wish
@@Shyrunder ...I'm pretty sure the CGI 3D stuff is more expensive to make, buddy.
I know Charlie won't see this but I figured I'd add my two cents. My uncle is a senior animator at Disney and worked on Wish. I had the opportunity to watch the film in theaters with him. He prefaced us going into the movie with "the story is just ok, not my favorite". He also let us know that this is meant to be like a 100 years of Disney hurrah so they added LOTS of easter eggs from previous films. Some were quite obvious like Bambi and Thumper and others a little more concealed like the main character's friends being the seven dwarves. I think the main focus for the movie was less, "let's make a great movie" and more, how can we fit as many references to our 100 year history in one film.
Makes sense to me
Sounds like an awful idea to me 😂
If it was a minor facet like “the jokes are not my favourite”, or hairstyles, or the intro… that’s acceptable. But a movie *is* a story!
Could you ask him about the rumours of “activist” taking over? I think that’s an exaggeration, maybe better to say: people who vocally support the _correct_ political stances, rather than being skilled.
This is why you don’t fill a movie with fan service
*cough* stars wars *cough*
For someone who actually worked on it to call it mid, it must truly be mid.
I love reading your titles and trying to figure out what you mean before I watch the video
Nice of you to shout out Jeremy, Charlie
As someone said, you know it’s a problem when the villain song doesn’t slap
You know what's the funniest part? Disney already had a perfectly good project to celebrate their 100th anniversary. The actually captivating and endearing "Once Upon A Studio". They even masterfully pulled off the blending of 2D and 3D animated characters there. Then they released "Wish" for the actual anniversary
I’d say Roger Rabbit and even Space Jam handled the mixing of those mediums better. The 2D characters don’t even really get shadows when an object is in front of them
I love how Dumbo remake and Wish are Disney films that are accidental allegories for how corrupt Disney is and how safe and corporate they are.
Not to mention there’s some ‘kids’ movies that get better as you get older, like wall-e. Goes from a goofy movie about a funny robot as a kid to a genuinely heartwarming love story as an adult
same with up. that movie is surprisingly deep for a “kids movie”
I work at Macy's, where we have a Toys r Us department, and we're chock full of the toys and honestly I thought it was just a toy line not a movie. I've literally put the toys on the shelves, packed them for shipment to customers, and thought this.
That's how little publicity this movie has gotten.
Penguinz0 says a whole lot of nothing. Boring. My animations are vastly superior.
Did it sell well?
The toys are the publicity
@@joukeschat2486 Unlikely
Thank you for explaining the ending of this miraculous film to me because when it happened, I didn't understand what was actually transpiring. And then the movie just ended and I was left confused
I love that you pointed out the irony of the concept compared to the disney company
They haven't been an animation studio for a long time, not surprised it was lacking. Imagine that, most known animation studio for decades, suddenly abandoning their roots and becoming known for bad writing, bad live action remakes and capitalism overkill, buying every IP known to man and ruining them all whilst still making bank.
Every company, if they last long enough, gets bought out by money hungry suits eventually. It’s bound to happen.
Penguinz0 says a whole lot of nothing. Boring. My animations are vastly superior.
The bigger they are, the harder they fall
@@IAmAQueenCryAbtIt Bro, Yandere Dev's work is better than yours. How did you manage to be worse than that
@@OkamiLyra Pretty sure it's a troll bot.
Honestly, generic and boring are much worse than bad. Bad can be talked about, bad can be entertaining and thought provoking. Generic and boring leaves nothing and is forgotten as quickly as it is viewed. Even when you think of a bad movie that is just awful in every way, the taste it leaves sticks cause it's a nasty but memorable taste. Something amazing sticks with you because of all the good flavors it leaves on your memory. But boring? Boring is a rice cake. Consumed because you wanted something and it's so flavorless that you even forget you ate it. You'll remember the slop, you'll remember the gourmet dinner, you'll forget the rice cake right after you eat it.
Slop mentioned
@@morganwalz3938pyro live reference
My friend showed me a clip of it out of context. The villain song. I thought he was the main character who was fed up of granting wishes.
I saw tons of advertisements for it….. on the A train. And none anywhere else. The new trains had advertisements pop up every 30 seconds or so, and the platforms with screens had advertisements on rotation as well, but I never seen a commercial/add for it.
I've yet to fully understand the plot. A girl finds a star and it does something. Then there's a bad guy who wants it. There's a talking goat too. That's it lol.
A king protects his kingdom. A random star thing overthrows him for no reason.
1. King is a somewhat good guy, everyone is ok-ish.
2. Suddenly king is a psychopath, turns evil, and everyone defeats him.
🤦♂️what a weird movie
Don't forget that the main character literally looks a lot like Isabela from Encanto
@arf3433 Ya the characters hardly have any development whatsoever and nothing is really explained. They're all boring and meaningless. Magnifico just suddenly turns evil and we don't know why. There's no background story that tries to justify his views and actions. It's like a bunch of 5 year olds came up with this story.
@@johnpurdy3336 or like people came up with plot ideas. Then the head execs were like nope to every idea and cuts off brain storming for everything that was missing. Then just decided it'll make money and went with it.
“It’s made for children” is such a cop out for justifying a bad movie
The My Little Pony explanation c:
1:43
I've experimented a lot with stories and scripts in ChatGPT and this movie sounds 100% like something ChatGPT would've come up with.
yeah, there may be something to the jokes about Wish and AI. it doesn't feel like made by a human with ideas, better or worse, but ideas.
unless they did the script in the last year timing doesnt work for that. Chats a baby 😅
@@MariaWarrenWrites Yes in the case of ChatGPT, but GPT 3 came out in 2020, and GPT 2 was released in 2019. So this type of AI has been out for more than 4 years now. I don't khow how good it was back then compared to now tho
Sounds like Disney's first attempt at an AI generated film... makes sense after the writing guild strikes