Is learning chops a waste of time? [Drum Lesson]
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2022
- Some people really hate chops, but there are plenty of good reasons to learn at least a few.
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Man the intro was spot on 🤣 irritates the hell out of me when people suggest that there’s a right and wrong way to play, and I also think it just displays how ignorant you are if you hate on a genre or someone else’s playing. It’s easier to criticise what someone is doing rather than put the work in and try to understand it, or at least just be like ‘I can appreciate it, but it’s not for me’. Such a massive showcase of insecurity in my opinion. Just use ya flippin’ ears and play what suits the music, no one is gonna make you play a certain way, but personally I’d rather be able to play whatever people ask of me and not be limited by my own lack of ability
Josh, All of the content you share is invaluable. You have great control an outstanding chops. It’s obvious you’ve put in time to execute those ideas and techniques. What I got from this lesson, was how you used three different concepts that you strung together. I may not learn all of them or any of them but I would be inspired to try each of them on their own to hear where I could maybe use them.
Talking chops though. You are very clear on where and when it maybe and not be appropriate to use them. I believe practice what you want develop what you want but play musically. Taking ideas from your drum idols.. seeing what works for you. That’s what’s going to give you your sound and approach. Of course you can usually get away with the basics with many working bands less is more kind of thing but in other situations, some musicians want a drummer that can elevate the energy, bring the heat with out stumbling or loosing the pocket. If you want to be able to raise the bar when called upon, you better have some Vocabulary stored up.
Great channel, always look forward to seeing your next one.
If you love chops, play chops. Just don't play chops when you don't have to play them, for example in a gig where you're hired to stay in the pocket. It's that simple. It's not either chops or pocket - it's both, just don't be dumb.
^This guy gets it.
So true. There's a time and place, these videos are so tasty
I have no one to play for but myself. I enjoy playing whatever I want, but my choices were inspired by your videos quite a lot. Thank you for the wisdom!
These videos are tasty asf. Honestly. Thanks for the ideas and lessons!
Thanks very much
thank you!
Amazing
Sick
That C part by it self is super useful!
…you know, not that it needs to be or anything 😄
nice.What heas are you using on toms and snare+kick?
Your introduction is spot on. Generally the drum community are great, but when it comes to chops the true drum snobs come out of their shell.
Can you cut and paste those chunk to build your very own personal phrasing ?
Your right. BUT, people always FIND IT EASIER TO BAG ON OTHERS THAN THEMSELVES!
Josh, for as much as you use your floor tom on intricate stuff, I'm surprised you don't raise it just slightly. Not necessarily saying you should. Just surprised you haven't.
Am I in for injuries if I don't DROP MY INDEX FINGER when striking the snare like you experienced drummers do? No one ever talks about this, but I see experienced drummers do it all the time. Wish someone could explain this. Thank you
If you think you might be headed for an injury it's probably a good idea to adjust your approach. Letting your index finger drop will give the energy a place to go and will help you play more relaxed, loose hands in general are good to aim for when drumming. If your index finger doesn't drop it's probably more of a sign of unnecessary hand tension than anything else, letting go of that tension will improve your overall feel and playing consistency and even your tone will likely improve along with of course a decrease in wrist fatigue, but try to think more about loose hands and less about specifically commanding your index finger to drop when you hit the snare (or hit anything on the kit with much force) because maintaining loose hands is how you're going to end up with the results you're looking for
@@jtdevrieze Wow, Thank you so much for taking the time to tell me that. I wish you the best for doing that for me. Sincerely. Thank you!
@@gballmaier Glad I could help! Cheers! 🥁
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*says "pats" instead of patterns*
me: oh shit this guy's serious
People who make statements about chops are usually the ones who didn't put any kind of effort to be able to play chops.....even if chops aren't utilized in playing folks who don't put time into their crafts always complain or ridicule those who do....
Come to HouseOfDrumming... No anti-chops-newbie BS. haha.
If you don't play chops - how do you get those sweet sweet monetized likes?
Chops don't get you gigs. Playing musically does. The biggest drummers in history did not play chops and the biggest drummers in the game don't. Chris Dave doesn't play chops Mark Guilliana does not play chops Louis Cole does not play chops. Brian Blade, Nate Wood, Nate Smith etc. I could name many. There are a million gospel drummers out there chopping without ever playing a rest. Chops are fun for you but nobody exept you and maybe some other drummers care about chops. This linear stuff has been going on since like 20 or 30 years and I'm going to scream if I see another insta drummer playing fast and loud linear stuff.
We have a small session here where I live and I can see how annoying it is for other musicians if a drummer puts himself in front of everybody else because he needs his attention. The best responses I see when there is actual communication going on.
In my opinion communication is the most important part, listen more than you play and don't ever play too loud.
Even if you don't intend to show off, chopping is the easiest way to sound like you want to show off.
I think why chops are so popular is because it lets you go faster and faster because of the linear stuff and it really feels great so if you want to chop just chop but don't expect people to like an outdated and overused concept.
Don't like chops? Don't play them. Don't watch videos of people playing them. Or get to screaming, I guess. Play how YOU want to play. Not everyone will want to play the way YOU want to play, and that doesn't make them "wrong." Not everything in the world is your local blues jam. And "this linear stuff" has been going on since the early 70s.
If you actually watched the video, you'd hear me say that the main point of learning chops is to expand vocabulary and discover other possibilities around the drum set, which makes it easier to play musically. Comparing it to language, it's kind of hard to have a conversation with someone if the only words you know are "car," "apples," and "shoe." I just don't understand this all-or-nothing mentality chop haters have. Seems like you're the exact kind of person I described at the beginning of the video.
The biggest drummers in history are fusion guys and jazz guys: Vinnie, Weckl, Gary Novak, Tony Williams, Steve Gadd, Elvin Jones... They all can both chop your brains out and groove your brains out as well and play musically. Your arguments are wack, simply because they are not true.
@@petarpavasovic6333 those guys are not gospel chop players man
@@petarpavasovic6333 try again
@@JoshMerhar you fall for american ideology and dont even see that you are a victim of the faster and louder mindset. the extra large double wopper. try playing gospel chops quietly and then we can start talking. those linear fills are only good if you play loud and noisy. i.e. the american way.