DRT Mock Hunt for Large Trees | Saddle Hunting
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2019
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This is a mock hunt so you see exactly what it's like to hunt in our minimalist DRT style for saddle hunting large trees. Pay particular attention to the size of this tree, as it's inaccessible by climbing sticks, strap on steps, and in some cases steps on public land.
In our first video (watch here: • Best climbing techniqu... ) we introduced you to our method of climbing.
We highly recommend watching that video as well.
This is a very minimalist method for mobile saddle hunters. We are showing you exactly how we climb into large trees with minimal equipment, cost and effort.
This method may not be for everyone, but think of it as another tool in your arsenal. Please watch until the end as there's a lot of information on DRT climbing technique that we believe is one of the safest, quietest, least expensive ways to climb a tree for saddle hunting. I hope you all benefit from our technique. Please like and share with others.
Please remember that climbing of any kind is inherently dangerous. The DRT climbing method has been a standard in the arbor industry for 100 years. But remember It's only safe if you do it right. Ensure your knots are tied correctly and make sure you set every knot before you get off the ground. This is our method that we use in saddle hunting, but only do what makes you comfortable and do this at your own risk.
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Just a quick video on how to descend when DRT climbing also some discussion on difficulty
Hunters Who climb trees typically have no training. One of the reasons we made these videos was to introduce hunters to what arborists use to climb safely. Just like anything its incumbent on you to seek out training from a qualified professional , and practice to learn how to do it properly. It's no different than learning firearm safety or anything that's inherently dangerous.
Feel free to ask questions in the comments section and we'll be happy to offer any help we can.
Thanks for watching, climb safe and best of luck !
Great video showing a very realistic hunting situation. I've wondered how to get into those nice big trees. Thanks for taking time to create it.
Thanks Mitch !
Thanks so much for this! Really helps me out. Planning on integrating the drt method into my run and gun style of hunting.
Thanks for watching , best of luck!
I am ready at 73 yrs to continue to deer hunt. Less weight going in makes this a super way to hunt any number of trees, too! Thanks, guys!!
Wow that’s awesome Mike . Good for you ! Not to mention the added safety benefit
Dude, I am loving this method. Finally got all the stuff together and do it every chance I get to practice and it never gets old. Love how quick it is to learn and for me seems to be best climbing method. Thank you NYSH for making these videos and being awesome dudes ! 🤘🏼 good luck to everybody this season
Thankyou J GleeZ , YES !!! It’s a short leaning curve . Looks much harder than it is.
The more you do it the more adaptable it becomes. You start thinking back to past hunts where you told yourself I’ll never be able to hunt that setup . And now it’s totally doable . Best of luck !!!
I’m new to this but been learning this since this is also fun. I started out with drt but moved to srs using a rad system . It is much easer to get in the tree but harder to move through the tree. Great for branchy are big trees. Are even smaller trees that are growing on a not to old logged out area.
Yes SRT/ SRS , RAD are easier to climb , DRT is more minimalist less of an investment. In most cases Im only climbing 20-25' so DRT is easy enough but yes other methods if you make the investment are even easier. Glad you found a method that works for you.
I always say the only thing that limits you getting into the right tree is the tree and your imagination, and with a saddle these rope climbing methods come natural and can help add another dimention to the possabilities of getting into the right spot
Awesome !!
Great realistic video perfect tree for demo. Not a tree for screw in or climbing sticks big diameter leave it to fellow nyer. Keep up with great ideas. Ha ha i may hang my block and tackle
Thanks Robert 👍
I gotta say for awhile ive been against drt my thinking was it would be too noisy and to much work but after watching more and more of your guys content i really want to give it a shot i just got my saddle a few weeks ago and i gotta say im changing my mind i dont think it will be the only way ill climb but I do think its a good tool to have in the toolbox...especially having presets like you guys advise it will definitely give me access to trees id have a hard time accessing
DRT once you really understand it is very easy and the most minimalist rope climbing method. Scott's a arborist for 35 years and he could have climbed several ways but he says it's just quick , simple , and easy .
Theres so variations to make it easier if you find hip thrusting difficult like a foot loop however depending on your physical ability most people with a little practice will quickly master it. I think it's a fun way to climb, however SRT is even easier but it's a bigger investment.
Most guys find it's much easier than it looks , especially with a footloop
Thank you gentlemen for this video it really helped me understand the truth of this technique,,obviously its another tool in the shed for another ambush,,,certainly like the big tree application on this arsenal, So can i buy the rope in are area around here , or do I have to order it,,thank you
If you have a Arborists supply house near you . They will be able to get you setup with all the gear you will need to successfully climb Trees. They may not have Predator line. But there are many great alternatives. Thank you Erik
How frequently are you unable to use the tree trunk in your ascent? What do y’all recommend in that situation? Love the videos guys, this is an excellent addition to my system. My Wes Spur order is in the mail now!
I'm not sure I understand your question. If you mean utilize the trunk with your legs to climb , then the answer is never we always need the trunk to get a good hip thrust otherwise it becomes very difficult how we're climbing
I LOVE IT! I wondered what you did with the tag end of the DRT, but I see that you use it as a bow haul, and stow it in your bag, genius. I am just getting my saddle/DRT gear together for next season and your videos are awesome. That set up is ninja silent. What kind of rope would you recommend (specific brand/color)?
11.4mm predator climbing line from Wesspur is what we use. In camoflage color
Would a rock climbing harness and a sitdrag work with this method?
@@BenDownTooLong yes absolutely
Great video. How are you guys managing your rope when the ground is wet or snowy or even muddy? Thanks
It's never really been an issue that I've noticed. When we are hunting the rope is stored away in the pack and as you climb I think between the crotch and the friction hitch it tends to ring out and clean the rope so I've never even felt anything.
@NY Saddle Hunter awesome thanks for the quick response. I hunt from October to January so if income up with a issue and a resolution I'll share it with ya. Thanks a bunch.
This is a great video for several reasons, most of which the other commenters here have noticed. It was cool to see another lefty in the tree. After watching several of your videos I surveyed the woods I primarily bowhunt for trees suitable for DRT, and I discovered that because it's creek bottom down low, the big trees have shot to the sky without a branch for sometimes upwards of 40-50 feet. On the high ground, the problem is similar. When you have trees that don't branch very low, do you still use DRT and just practice for catching branches that high with your throw ball, or do you climb with a different method?
If I have to be in that one tree because it’s gonna offer me the best opportunity and DRT won’t work then yes I’ll opt for a different method. However if it’s the difference between getting a shot at a giant buck or eating tag soup. I’ll bring a longer rope with me . I had a set this season where the first limb was just over 40’. I brought 2 sticks with me to get me just high enough to tie in DRT. . That’s the beauty of this only your imagination limits you . Thanks Brett and Good Luck !!!
@@NYSaddleHunter I didn't even think of a hybrid method. Thanks for getting back to me! I don't know if I'll have a chance to implement DRT in what's left of this season, but I sure look forward to practicing and putting it to work.
Brett Horath good to hear. That is what will make you efficient. Practice, practice, practice. I hope to see some kills from you next season. Thanks for the comments. Best of luck to you !!!
how do you hunt from climbing rope, bridge adjustment from climbing to hunting
Howard I think this might answer your question. However in Scotts case he always stas ys on his climbing line, Joe usuly transitions to his tether.
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How did you Chuck that throw line over them upper limbs like that and not get all caught up on other limbs
With a little practice you can become very accurate with a throwball. Start out by throwing over a limb 10’ off ground till you become proficient. Then 20 Then 30. You’ll be a dead shot in no time. One thing I haven’t touched on is if you get the throw ball stuck on a branch or bark or any snag. Be aware when you pull back on the throw line it will stretch a bit and the throwball when it dislodges becomes a projectile. . Trust me you do not want to get hit by it. Good luck ! Ps. stay away from tight crotches. You’ll never get the rope through
What about when you climb up and there is no branch for feet how do you put in steps
I’d probably pick another tree that would work. If there was no other option and had to make the first tree work. I’d bring a long rope with two eyes in it and girth hitch the tree like a choker using the eye for my feet. I mostly sit in my saddle when climbing DRT. Seems like a lot more work but if that’s the tree I’m going to get a kill shot from. Then I’m putting in the extra work
When I go to wesspur there are too many options of rope to choose from... Specifically which rope should I look for and how long (average tree)? Thanks for the videos!
11.4 mm predator climbing line is what we are using here is the link on wesspur but you can use anything equivalent . wesspur.com/items/pr15.html?_ga=2.103960773.459581885.1560165109-1952655757.1555123084
As for length 75' is what we carry that would give you enough to access any tree with a Max limb hight of 35' or less and leave enough line for your Blake's hitch.
For what it’s worth to anybody else reading the comments,I ended up purchasing Yale Blaze( in Blaze orange) 11mm line from Wes Spur. It had good reviews, and I figured deer are color blind and I am not, so they won’t mind the orange and I have high visibility on it. Looking forward trying this DRT method a go.
@@richardgreer459 velocity rope is good too if you're not worried about color
Do you ever worry about having a branch snap on you using this method? How do you mitigate that risk?
Yes that is a concern , it's important to be in into a large enough branch that's "ALIVE". What you want to do is try to keep your climbing line not out on a limb away from the main truck of the tree but into a crotch and when it's feesible have the main trunk in between both ends . So if you Invision it in a way it's like you're using the climbing line kind of like a shrinking lineman rope in a way . So in worst case if the limb broke you would free fall you woul be like on a lineman . But a healthy tree any limb 4" in diameter or larger at the crotch can hold a large amount of weight. You just need to use good judgement . A healthy limb that's big enough is strong
What all would I need to buy for this method!
At least 75' 11.4 mm predator climbing line or equivalent. This will get you 35' high. You'll also need 100' of 2mm throw line and a 14 oz. Throw ball and sack to carry it.
Saddle and caribiner.
I just ordered yesterday from Wesspur and the rope is backordered until sept 15 or so. Buy the rope by the foot to get 75'. The rope, 1/8" throw line and a 14 oz. throw ball and a pouch for the throw rope will run you with tax and shipping about $125.
@@paulcrave9149 nice .Paul if your on FB look us up at NY saddlehunter forum and send us a friend request , it's a little easier to communicate there
So, two quick questions. 1: Are you ever detaching from your climbing rope and hooking into a normal tether? or do you just use the rope you used to climb as your tether? If the latter, does it make for an awkward "tether" angle when/if your anchor point is quite a bit higher than you are hunting? 2: You mentioned in an earlier video a method for getting ropes into trees and didn't have limbs until WAY up. Could you elaborate on that? I've been waiting patiently, but I wanna know :) Thanks for the videos! -Mike
I (Joe) detach from the climbing line and transition to my tether usually because I'm more of a leaner , Scott likes to stay on the climbing line because he's more of a sitter.
There is a method for getting into trees with very high branches , We'll need to make that video. It's a way to get in them but it might be easier on those types of trees to go to your sticks , but we will make a video on it just haven't gotten to it yet.
Thanks for watching!
NY Saddle Hunter thanks Joe! I’d like to see a video of you transitioning from line to tether and back too if you get a chance. Thanks!
@@robertbryant4384 I just filmed a video of me transitioning from the climbing line to the tether also close up of the Blake's hitch friction knot and a few tips on the DRT method
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@@robertbryant4384 ruclips.net/video/z6zt4DwxXdc/видео.html here's a video I filmed for you
How safe is it to climb without a friction saver? How much life do you get out of a rope?
A friction saver protects the tree more than itvdoes your rope , and its safe to climb without the use of one. Most hunting saddles have an expiration date . In most cases a good quality climbing line like samson predator or yale bandit or poison ivy will last a hunter 3-5 years or as long as the saddle. It depends on use. Arborists who climb every day replace them annually however an arborist climbs more in a year than a hunter would climb in a decade so when you think of it in those terms its not a real concern. However that being said you want to inspect your rope before or after each climb for damage. If seen a rope damaged by a nail that was in a tree but stuff like thats pretty rare but inspecting your gear is goid practice to ensure your gear is safe.
6:33 Where can I find that bow hanger?
That’s a screw in. Probably Walmart . Real tree bow hanger. When I’m hunting Public www.bigwhitetaildreams.com/
For the throw line, do you recommend the 2.2mm vs the 1.75mm?
We're using the 2.2mm
NY Saddle Hunter wow that was fast. Thanks. I’m still enjoying your videos. Thanks for the great tips. You guys are awesome. 👍🏻👍🏻
@@Amblos-jk7uo We really appreciate the positive feedback ! Good luck this season!
Thanks for sharing this method with us. I’m stoked to get into some trees I’ve looked at for years.
do you have a link to the rope and throw line and throw ball that I would need to do this?
www.wesspur.com/
Sorry, I was trying to find out what climbing rope you are using. I went back and watched a half dozen videos until I found a place whereby you mentioned it once. Thanks.
@@paulcrave3826 11.4 mm predator climbing line or equivalent. Yale Bandit rope is good too. Predator line should be in stock by 9/15 according to Wesspur. Velocity rope is good to but it's not camouflage
NY Saddle Hunter thanks. I ordered 75’ of the Predator rope today along with the throw ball and throw rope and dump bag.
@@paulcrave3826 Wesspur looks to me like the minimum length is 120'. Where did you get 75?
What kind of saddle harness are you wearing in this video while climbing that huge tree? I noticed that it has a seat saddle going across your butt that looks comfortable. Can you send me a link to where you bought it from? I'd really appreciate that. BTW. I Love your system and technic. Much more affordable, practical, and quiet. I'm 57 yrs old and out of shape. But, this motivated me too work on getting in shape and using this climbing technique. Thankyou for sharing and taking the time and trouble to video tape it.
The saddle I’m using in this video is Joes. It’s a Tethered Mantis very lightweight made out of a mesh fabric. I climb on a Kestrel Flex from Aero Hunter. It gives a bit more support to your butt than the Mantis does. It works very well with this DRT method of climbing.
ruclips.net/video/kMx6aGQcYG0/видео.html
tethrdnation.com/product/mantis-saddle-2/#mantis-saddle
@@NYSaddleHunter thank you. I'll check out the kestrel flex by areo hunter. I'm a big fellow. Its sounds like a better system for me.
@@Kennthpassanisi8139 Good luck Ken hope it helps up your game!
@@NYSaddleHunter when ordering the Aero hunter kestrel flex saddle climber what options do I order with it for your sytle and technique? I'm almost as tall as you at 6'2" and believe your system and technique will work best for me. I'm new at this and don't want too order options I don't need. Although, I will get the Predator camo. Lol.
Wesspur should cut you guys a check. I’m sure you’re the reason predator rope is on backorder.
That seems like a lot of work. But, good video.
It looks much harder than it is really. I felt the same way until I learned the technique and realized it's less work than hanging sticks otherwise I'd just do that. Especially if you set yourself up with a preset paracord loop in pre scouted trees . Then you just pull your line up climb and your in . We show in this video using a throwball but we rarely use the throwball on the same day we hunt. We usually hunt preset trees that we scouted in the post and preseason
@@NYSaddleHunter After looking at it again, I think I might give it a try.
@@jimste5898 Check out this video we made it shows another method SRT.
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@@NYSaddleHunter Thanks. I watched that video. It's really informative.