As someone who just bought a boat having never even seen or touched a boat motor before, I found this video very informative and helpful, especially the beginning where you explained all the basics
Hi there. Great engine. I have the same, only 1969 release. I have been using it for two years, mounted on an inflatable boat 2.90 meters long. I do not regret that I bought a used engine, not a new Chinese one. A good set for fishing: a boat and motor transport in a sedan + 1 place for a partner. Great review of the engine, good luck to you!
I got my uncles old 72 johnson six hp but only 1 plug is sparking so its encouraging to see yours fire up. Mine use to start on one pull but that was 20 years ago so more pulling in my future. Peace
If only one plug is sparking, be sure to work your way backwards from the easiest/cheapest solutions first! Check the plug (swap them) check the wire, and then check the points/electrical.
I got new oem points/ condensers/ wires arriving today and rebuild the carb yesterday , got new plugs as well and coils tested good so "today's the day" I appreciate your videos, its nice to see what things look like before I take things apart. Isn't this intranet thing great!
Absolutely fantastic channel!! This video is great, I inherited my grandfather's boat here in Scotland. He was a stoker in royal navy ww2, fisherman before and after his service. He knew engines and he had 3 evinrude with the boat I've got now. This video is a big help!!
I noticed you a small RUclipsr and I wanted to say that this was a good video. I got a 1965 6hp and watching someone else was about to bring up little issues I could change with mine.
Enjoyed the vid. I just found a 1961 6hp in my shed (older than me by 2 yrs, lol) can't wait to get it going. Btw much of the oil in your water tub is from the exhaust, which is why 2 strokes are no longer allowed in many states of the USA. Excessive smoke could mean a bit too much oil in the fuel mixture. Monitor the plugs
Since small kid time I've hated two stroke engines, I messed with my 5.5 HP, 71 Sears motor, all day yesterday, and I'm glad I've got a four stroke coming thurs. Someone can have this one!
For the slow speed needle valve: Screw it in all the way and gently seat it. Bring it back out anticlockwise 1 1/2 turns. Get the engine ticking over as slow as you can. Turn it in 1/8th of a turn at a time until the revs go up a little. Bring the revs back down and repeat until it cuts out or backfires. Reverse the needle out slowly 1/4 of a turn. The best low speed idle is within this 1/4 turn.
Dude! I didn't learn much, but it was funny! I just bought a slightly newer one and just getting to know it also, thanks. Oh yeah, I am 67 years old so the choke knowledge is done.
Glad it helped! Always try the simple and easy fixes first - I still forget to that with some things myself and often the problem with any engine is so simple - bad clamp, worn hose, bad fuel etc.
This is quite entertaining! Thanks for putting together. I have 2 x 4hp and 1 5.5hp from same era staring at me in the living room (my wife is out of town so I can do that!). These old engines are beasts!
For clarification, the Choke when operated does not let more fuel into the engine, it simply reduces (chokes off) some of the air, therefore, increasing the ratio of the amount of gas to the amount of air. Cold internal combustion engines need a ratio of gasoline to air that is biased more towards gasoline than would otherwise be required of the gasoline to fuel ratio when the engine is up to operating temperature. A choke is a crude but very effective means of temporarily changing the gasoline-to-fuel ratio to something more suitable for combustion when engines are cold. Enrichment circuits on the other hand (more complicated but much more effective) actually add more fuel to the ratio without restricting the air and so those engines have more power when they are cold compared to a similar size and type engine equipped with a choke which restricts some of the air.
I'm sure someone has answered you but I didn't see it. But the difference between 16" and 20" is how tall the motor is or the motor foot. Some transoms are taller than others and needs the foot to reach lower.
Great video, thanks Wayne! I have this same motor and I'm wondering what you recommend as far as winterizing. It'll be in a metal shed all winter with temps as low as 0° or lower at times. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I have a video about winterizing a 2 stroke - but the important things are to get all the fuel out (if it has ethanol), make sure the lower unit is fully drained of water, and to fog the engine.
I have the almost identical twin to that one. Same year even but mine is locked up from sitting so I am wondering if I should even bother going through the time and expense of rebuilding it or if I should just sentence it to become a parts motor? Mine LOOKS pretty clean but looking clean means nothing if it doesn’t run. I did temporarily have it freed up but then it stuck again within a couple days of being freed up. At least I don’t have much invested in it. I have more vintage outboards but can’t remember what all of them actually are at the moment. What I do remember is the 65 Evinrude Fisherman, a 50’s Mercury Mark 6, unknown age or size vintage Sea King, 1956 Elgin 6hp, 93 Mercury 9.9 and an unknown year Mercury 75 with potentially a couple Mercury 110’s joining in soon and a few I can’t remember what they are. In the past I had several others such as an Oddball Clinton Apache air cooled and water cooled combined in the same motor. There’s actually been so many I can’t recall which ones they even were from back in the day
I am currently going through the "should I even bother" conundrum with another old Evinrude (video here: ruclips.net/video/sgtJnrGwBBw/видео.html) It is a 1978 2 hp, but it really needs so many components repaired or replaced to be a runner again. I am working on it, but I'll have much more into it than it will ever be worth.
There's still a few places that sell parts for these old engines - MarineEngine.com, EBay (if you know the part number) and Crowley Marine are good starting places.
Great and informative video. I just picked up a 69 fisherman and hopefully get it running. Can you tell me where you got your fuel hose or the part number for it please? I can’t seem to find it on ebay
If I recall the compression was about 60 psi - which I had thought was low, but for an old, cold motor sitting for a while in the winter - that's not bad.
OMG thank you so much ! I have the exact same one 6502 ! And your video helped a lot with this video, i am new to this ! I am from France btw. Would you please scan and send me the manual please, it would help a lot as i have a cooling issue ? PS : i watched all the video and thanks god i had no alcohol home 😂 (drink game) 😂
I'm not entirely sure. I hear people say that they do and have done so - but it's one of those parts that if it wasn't necessary why would they have included it?
@@WayneTheBoatGuy Right, I’ve had the motor for 10 years and decided to change it and when I took the cover off, there was no thermostat. So I’ve probably ran it 20 hours without it. But I ordered a new one and it will arrive Tuesday. It still runs good, just curious what you thought.
Ideally the water level in your tank should be at least a little bit above where the gearbox meets the leg because that is where the water pump level is thus ensuring the pump has a positive supply of water. Otherwise the impeller will be deprived of enough water to cool the engine.
Andre Van Heerden - I was following the rule of making sure the water intake ports are below the water line. It obviously has to pump up to the impeller, and I imagine that’s only a second or two at most, but your method is probably the best. Thank you for watching and for your input!
I took my lower unit off to change the water pump on my 69 6hp and connecting everything back the gear shift is stuck in forward and won’t go into neutral or reverse. The lever moves though. Trying to figure out what I managed to get wrong.
I know some of these can be tricky - some Mercury models need to be shifted into reverse to reassemble. Could yours have been 'in gear' when you disassembled it? If so, you might need to have it back in that gear for reassembly. Good luck and try OM Fishing's youtube channel as you try to troubleshoot what's going on.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy appreciate the input. Ordered some more parts since I’m gonna take it apart again. I managed to snap one of the bolts that holds the lower in place flush. I’ll get it right next time.
I did 50:1 - I believe that is what the original service manual suggested as well. A rule of thumb is when in doubt, go richer with the oil because that is less likely to cause catastrophic harm.
Hmmm... sometimes it's the way the carb is adjusted, or another carb issue like the float. Typically the idle circuit, and the run circuit are different (in other words different juts, ports etc in the carb) but it also could be something mechanical too. I'm sorry, I haven;t actually had to deal with that particular issue with mine.
@@DeeZeePeezee it’s not great, but a little shot won’t do much; but don’t dump a can down the intake. A little shot of mix gas down the intake would technically be a better solution.
I’m about to go pick one like this up for 200$ the guy says it was running but has carb issues. My friend says it’s a waste of money hope to prove him wrong
Update cleaned the carb and it runs flawlessly. My friend had no comment. Thanks to your videos I didn’t buy a Chinese piece of junk and now have a good running outboard
Yeah at the time I was using starting fluid. I only heard about it being a bad thing to use on these a few months ago when I was starting to work on another old 2 stroke outboard.
That motor is too Smokey to be mechanically good - looks to me as if it needs a rebore and new pistons - yes, 2 strokes deliver smoke because they burn it with the fuel but there’s too much from that motor unless you have too much oil in the mix.
If he knew the correct starting procedure ,it would have started on the second pull . NEVER USE ETHER ON A TWO STROKE ,it removes all lubricant from cyl walls The throttle was not set high enough on the initial start. num nuts
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As someone who just bought a boat having never even seen or touched a boat motor before, I found this video very informative and helpful, especially the beginning where you explained all the basics
Just picked up a 73 6hp. Thank you for this video. Love your videos they are so easy to follow and are very engaging!
Hi there.
Great engine. I have the same, only 1969 release. I have been using it for two years, mounted on an inflatable boat 2.90 meters long. I do not regret that I bought a used engine, not a new Chinese one.
A good set for fishing: a boat and motor transport in a sedan + 1 place for a partner.
Great review of the engine, good luck to you!
Thanks for sharing
I WENT BY YOUR TEACHING, MY EVENRUDE, FIRED RIGHT UP, THANKS FOR YOUR VIDEO,😎
Your videos are absolutely addictive. Cant stop seeing them.
I got my uncles old 72 johnson six hp but only 1 plug is sparking so its encouraging to see yours fire up. Mine use to start on one pull but that was 20 years ago so more pulling in my future. Peace
If only one plug is sparking, be sure to work your way backwards from the easiest/cheapest solutions first! Check the plug (swap them) check the wire, and then check the points/electrical.
I got new oem points/ condensers/ wires arriving today and rebuild the carb yesterday , got new plugs as well and coils tested good so "today's the day"
I appreciate your videos, its nice to see what things look like before I take things apart. Isn't this intranet thing great!
Thank you for this video I am a boat newbie that just bought an Evinrude 6hp and was looking for a video just like this
Good luck! There is a lot to learn with these engines because they can be touchy.
Just inherited this same motor and am looking forward to getting it up and running.. thanks for the video..
Absolutely fantastic channel!! This video is great, I inherited my grandfather's boat here in Scotland. He was a stoker in royal navy ww2, fisherman before and after his service. He knew engines and he had 3 evinrude with the boat I've got now. This video is a big help!!
That's so nice to hear. Thank you!!
Very well explained, love the video! An these old 2 stroke boat engines! Nothin better than the sound of that at 5am!
Thanks so much. Very educational Just bought a 1965 6hp Johnson.. my first motor ever..
Congrats! They are neat little engines
I noticed you a small RUclipsr and I wanted to say that this was a good video. I got a 1965 6hp and watching someone else was about to bring up little issues I could change with mine.
Enjoyed the vid. I just found a 1961 6hp in my shed (older than me by 2 yrs, lol) can't wait to get it going. Btw much of the oil in your water tub is from the exhaust, which is why 2 strokes are no longer allowed in many states of the USA.
Excessive smoke could mean a bit too much oil in the fuel mixture. Monitor the plugs
Very cool!
Since small kid time I've hated two stroke engines, I messed with my 5.5 HP, 71 Sears motor, all day yesterday, and I'm glad I've got a four stroke coming thurs. Someone can have this one!
LOL - I understand!
This is cool I just bought a 3.5 mercury it’s old but can’t beat it I bought it for 100 bucks in hopes to get it running
For the slow speed needle valve: Screw it in all the way and gently seat it. Bring it back out anticlockwise 1 1/2 turns. Get the engine ticking over as slow as you can. Turn it in 1/8th of a turn at a time until the revs go up a little. Bring the revs back down and repeat until it cuts out or backfires. Reverse the needle out slowly 1/4 of a turn. The best low speed idle is within this 1/4 turn.
I bet that technique gets these things purring!
Thanks for the video! Just bought a 65 6. This will help me get it inning for sure
Awesome!! Very educational! Learned more about the choke! New favorite RUclipsr! Keep it coming! Thank you so very much for your time!
Dude! I didn't learn much, but it was funny! I just bought a slightly newer one and just getting to know it also, thanks. Oh yeah, I am 67 years old so the choke knowledge is done.
Thanks and have fun with yours!
Very helpful we just bought a older boat new to the motor troubleshooting
Glad it helped! Always try the simple and easy fixes first - I still forget to that with some things myself and often the problem with any engine is so simple - bad clamp, worn hose, bad fuel etc.
Great vid I got my 6hp 5 years ago use it every summer on my zodiac inflatable it never skips a beat great little motors
awesome!
This is quite entertaining! Thanks for putting together. I have 2 x 4hp and 1 5.5hp from same era staring at me in the living room (my wife is out of town so I can do that!). These old engines are beasts!
Thanks! They’re fun to play with. I just got an old Mercury 7.5 running in this video - ruclips.net/video/jaCaRqyjgog/видео.html
I Have this exact one I use for a kicker and love it
I wish I still had this motor!
I got a 1976 evinrude 6hp been sitting for 20 years low hours I’m gonna get it going now
That’s the spirit!
For clarification, the Choke when operated does not let more fuel into the engine, it simply reduces (chokes off) some of the air, therefore, increasing the ratio of the amount of gas to the amount of air. Cold internal combustion engines need a ratio of gasoline to air that is biased more towards gasoline than would otherwise be required of the gasoline to fuel ratio when the engine is up to operating temperature. A choke is a crude but very effective means of temporarily changing the gasoline-to-fuel ratio to something more suitable for combustion when engines are cold. Enrichment circuits on the other hand (more complicated but much more effective) actually add more fuel to the ratio without restricting the air and so those engines have more power when they are cold compared to a similar size and type engine equipped with a choke which restricts some of the air.
Very informative video. “ Thanks “
Thanks for watching!
Cool, you showed everything except what I needed. How could you forget to mention the tilt/trim function?
I'm sure someone has answered you but I didn't see it. But the difference between 16" and 20" is how tall the motor is or the motor foot. Some transoms are taller than others and needs the foot to reach lower.
Thanks!!
Great video, thanks Wayne!
I have this same motor and I'm wondering what you recommend as far as winterizing. It'll be in a metal shed all winter with temps as low as 0° or lower at times. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I have a video about winterizing a 2 stroke - but the important things are to get all the fuel out (if it has ethanol), make sure the lower unit is fully drained of water, and to fog the engine.
Love the video Wayne!
Thanks 👍Hope your summer is going well!
Thank you so much for this video
I'm glad to hear - thank you!!
i have the same outboard. starts fine but water doesn't flow? maybe take off bottom end?
If you aren't sure when the impeller has last been changed, that's a good place to start.
I have the almost identical twin to that one. Same year even but mine is locked up from sitting so I am wondering if I should even bother going through the time and expense of rebuilding it or if I should just sentence it to become a parts motor? Mine LOOKS pretty clean but looking clean means nothing if it doesn’t run. I did temporarily have it freed up but then it stuck again within a couple days of being freed up. At least I don’t have much invested in it. I have more vintage outboards but can’t remember what all of them actually are at the moment. What I do remember is the 65 Evinrude Fisherman, a 50’s Mercury Mark 6, unknown age or size vintage Sea King, 1956 Elgin 6hp, 93 Mercury 9.9 and an unknown year Mercury 75 with potentially a couple Mercury 110’s joining in soon and a few I can’t remember what they are. In the past I had several others such as an Oddball Clinton Apache air cooled and water cooled combined in the same motor. There’s actually been so many I can’t recall which ones they even were from back in the day
I am currently going through the "should I even bother" conundrum with another old Evinrude (video here: ruclips.net/video/sgtJnrGwBBw/видео.html) It is a 1978 2 hp, but it really needs so many components repaired or replaced to be a runner again. I am working on it, but I'll have much more into it than it will ever be worth.
Excellent video...thank you!!!
You are welcome!
I had a 1975 Johnson 6 HP and from what i can see they didn't change a thing in that decade..:)
Makes it easier to get help and parts!
Good video and helpful 👍
Glad you think so!
Great in depth video man thank u
Thanks!!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy u are welcome....could u do a startup video for a 1972 tide ski twin motor? I think it's about the same motor
I like your new gas tank. Where did you purchase it? Do you still like it?
I think I got that at West Marine and gave it to the young guy who eventually bought this engine.
Just got one of these. Where do you get parts for them.
There's still a few places that sell parts for these old engines - MarineEngine.com, EBay (if you know the part number) and Crowley Marine are good starting places.
What mix ratio are you using on that motor I just got one and got 2stroke oil mix for it but don't know if I'm 50to 1or 40to 1
I think this one was 50:1 but I know guys who go 40:1 with older ones and they're just a little more smoky
Great and informative video. I just picked up a 69 fisherman and hopefully get it running. Can you tell me where you got your fuel hose or the part number for it please? I can’t seem to find it on ebay
I think I just took an old one with me to the store.
You help me alot.
Thank you very much......
You are most welcome!!
Great video! What was the results of your compression test?
If I recall the compression was about 60 psi - which I had thought was low, but for an old, cold motor sitting for a while in the winter - that's not bad.
OMG thank you so much ! I have the exact same one 6502 ! And your video helped a lot with this video, i am new to this ! I am from France btw. Would you please scan and send me the manual please, it would help a lot as i have a cooling issue ?
PS : i watched all the video and thanks god i had no alcohol home 😂 (drink game) 😂
I’ve got a 1969 Evinrude Fisherman, can it be operated for an extended period of time without the thermostat?
I'm not entirely sure. I hear people say that they do and have done so - but it's one of those parts that if it wasn't necessary why would they have included it?
@@WayneTheBoatGuy Right, I’ve had the motor for 10 years and decided to change it and when I took the cover off, there was no thermostat. So I’ve probably ran it 20 hours without it. But I ordered a new one and it will arrive Tuesday. It still runs good, just curious what you thought.
Wow what year was this boat motor? Mine is the 1972 fisherman mine is not that loud ..
It's a 1965. They always seem louder when they're in a tank and also when you're recording them! Thanks for watching!!
can you tell me why my handle on mine will not move to start it only goes to shift and off
With the cover off the engine, watch the cam that slides as you move the handle to see if it is getting bound up or stuck on something.
How fast is yours in the water on my 12 foot aluminum I can get it up to 6mph
when it was a kicker on my 19 ft. boat, it couldn't really get me up to 6 mph. But on a small boat, I'm sure it could do that.
You should have put the vice grips on the shaft the idle speed screw instead of the end. If you mangled the end a knob won't fit if you ever get one!
Very true! If I recall correctly, I think the splines on mine were already pretty much worn off.
Ideally the water level in your tank should be at least a little bit above where the gearbox meets the leg because that is where the water pump level is thus ensuring the pump has a positive supply of water. Otherwise the impeller will be deprived of enough water to cool the engine.
Andre Van Heerden - I was following the rule of making sure the water intake ports are below the water line. It obviously has to pump up to the impeller, and I imagine that’s only a second or two at most, but your method is probably the best. Thank you for watching and for your input!
I took my lower unit off to change the water pump on my 69 6hp and connecting everything back the gear shift is stuck in forward and won’t go into neutral or reverse. The lever moves though. Trying to figure out what I managed to get wrong.
I know some of these can be tricky - some Mercury models need to be shifted into reverse to reassemble. Could yours have been 'in gear' when you disassembled it? If so, you might need to have it back in that gear for reassembly. Good luck and try OM Fishing's youtube channel as you try to troubleshoot what's going on.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy appreciate the input. Ordered some more parts since I’m gonna take it apart again. I managed to snap one of the bolts that holds the lower in place flush. I’ll get it right next time.
Hello Wayne What kind of oil you use to mix with gasoline?
I use Evinrude 2 stroke oil from Walmart.
What’s the oil to gas ratio? I’ve read both 100:1 and 50:1?
I did 50:1 - I believe that is what the original service manual suggested as well. A rule of thumb is when in doubt, go richer with the oil because that is less likely to cause catastrophic harm.
Is that outboard a weedless outboard? only has 2 blades on propellor
LOL - Old little motors like this one only had two originally!
My evinrude 6hp works great in neutral but when it hear it cuts down to half or even less... what’s the issue ?
Hmmm... sometimes it's the way the carb is adjusted, or another carb issue like the float. Typically the idle circuit, and the run circuit are different (in other words different juts, ports etc in the carb) but it also could be something mechanical too. I'm sorry, I haven;t actually had to deal with that particular issue with mine.
May be the fuel pump if the carb is okay
What size connector is needed for the fuel line?
I'm sorry I don't recall and that engine has moved on to a new home.
I am no expert, barely a functional adult, but i was under the impression you're not supposed to use starting fluid on 2 strokes?
@@DeeZeePeezee it’s not great, but a little shot won’t do much; but don’t dump a can down the intake.
A little shot of mix gas down the intake would technically be a better solution.
Baaaahaaa!! Hilarious and informative.
Glad you 'got' it!
I’m about to go pick one like this up for 200$ the guy says it was running but has carb issues. My friend says it’s a waste of money hope to prove him wrong
Update cleaned the carb and it runs flawlessly. My friend had no comment. Thanks to your videos I didn’t buy a Chinese piece of junk and now have a good running outboard
Does it trim/ tilt?
These old motors have some manual adjustments to do that - but they're not as easy to adjust as a newer style. Thanks for watching!
The choker
Oil in water is coming from exhaust
Y u use starter fluid on a 2 stroke yikes. Also started it in gear lol probably why it didn't wanna start easily.
Yeah at the time I was using starting fluid. I only heard about it being a bad thing to use on these a few months ago when I was starting to work on another old 2 stroke outboard.
Never use starting fluid on a two stroke
All the smoke is because your mixture is wrong
Came here to get some knowledge, but got hammered instead and forgot where I am... thanks maybe
You're welcome and these motors can be finicky if they get too much, or too little gas!
You need fewer self-critical comments scrolling across the screen. It’s distracting.
That motor is too Smokey to be mechanically good - looks to me as if it needs a rebore and new pistons - yes, 2 strokes deliver smoke because they burn it with the fuel but there’s too much from that motor unless you have too much oil in the mix.
I eventually got this motor smoking a lot less than it was in this video!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy That’s excellent - so what did you do to get it better?
lol
Please stop with the text on the screen. It adds nothing
If he knew the correct starting procedure ,it would have started on the second pull . NEVER USE ETHER ON A TWO STROKE ,it removes all lubricant from cyl walls The throttle was not set high enough on the initial start. num nuts
I appreciate your advice in the first few sentences but was it really necessary to call me names?
no problem@@WayneTheBoatGuy