In truth, all these women were victims of a powerful male. Gulfem, lost 2 children and had to humble herself as she waa cast aside for Mahidevran who fell in love and then she too was cast aside. Hurrem has to constantly fight to keep her position. When it came down to it, they were all property of the Sultan. And frankly all were treated as brood mares, breed reproduce then move on....
The entirety of history...women were brood mares...ah, how lovely it is to be a women indeed... 😢 I feel bad for all those women who suffered in history. Just take the Ottoman Empire, the girls were kidnapped from their homes, forced in a harem they never wanted to be a part of, forced to adapt, learn dance musics and other....seduction skills...which must've felt humiliating...then fight other women to be on the Sultan's bed...the only way to survive and live a comfortable life if a son was produced... The TRAUMA....Stockholm Syndrome was in stocks that's for sure
@@fictionlover695 They were not kidnapped from homes. They were brought from battle fields. If they weren't taken, they would be kidnapped by bandits and sold to brothels. The Sultan had the right to kill them as they were from the enemies' sides. He didn't and chose to bring them as slaves. And in what kind of oppressive environment do slaves become sultanas, grand viziers of an empire? The slaves wanted to get into Harem. Because there was hope to change their status and become part of royalty. These people did not work for free. They did not have families. Anyone could easily kidnap and traffick them. The sultan brought them in and gave them jobs. And who told you they were taught dance, music and SEDUCTION SKILLS? They were taught about science, history and arts of the country. Music and dance were learnt by men too. They were specifically taught to stay away from using such "seduction skills".These were considered to be vulgar. They did not do such things mentioned in the show. Nobody ever even saw these sultanas. Unrelated men weren't allowed to enter Harem. The pashas in the show are shown to be drinking at brothels often. This was illegal and they would be punished if found. Like tell me you know nothing about ottoman history without telling me about ottoman history.
@@anikamasudeve3202so that huge block of text still doesn’t excuse enslaving other people to become their brood mares or workers. The fact that they are forced to please another human being just to not be slaughtered is sick
Shah said it right. No woman especially in that status would marry for love. It's all about political alliance. Not sure why Hatice would think different.
Because she married Ibrahin, someone who loves. Suleiman supported their love. Maybe because of it she can't accept the whole scene where Hurem forcefyully married Mihrimah. She hasn't experienced this devastating moment in woman's life.
@@радостдобромироваshe has actually. In the series, She married an old pasha who died like 3months after their marriage. Then got remarried to Ibrahim. In real life she wasn't married to Ibrahim. All marriages were mostly political alliances at that time
@@радостдобромирова that marriage of Hatice and Ibrahim in the show had a lot of political influence. That way, no one could strongly reject Ibrahim because he was married to the dynasty. It just happened that Hatice knew him and fell in love. For her, he was like the Balibey of Mirihmah.
My heart still aches whenever I remember how things turned out bad for the siblings. How painful Mustafa died and Cihangir and then Bayezid with his sons.
Same, it was sad... Mihrimah cryed for her brothers and in end it was just her and Selim left and she lost her husband but got little happiness two children one girl and one boy
In real life Mihrimah was wery clever and classy she had nothing against marrying Rustem and she grow to love him they had a wery happy marrige and he treated her like a Queen
Shah had it right unfortunately. Hatice's words shouldn't even be listened to. She knew what it was to be married off too, it happened already to her and it was almost done again until she got her way and got to marry Ibrahim. But they were both spoiled children, used to getting what they wanted from the Sultan and got greedy. Unfortunately, women of high standing really didn't get a choice, it was about political power and alliances, not love. Also, don't forget, Hurrem went to Bali Bey first. She tried, but seeing the other sultanas trying to manipulate the situation, she had to act. If it wouldn't have been Rustem, it would have been someone else, so Shah and the gang are hypocrites. They wouldn't have cared if it had been someone of THEIR choosing marrying the poor girl, they were all blinded in their quest to stick it to Hurrem.
💯💯💯🎯🎯🎯Finally someone who says the truth about what happened in this series!! Can't stand the comments anymore that have a narrative that doesn't align with what we all can clearly see happening, just because they want to change the script because of personal feelings.. They don't even try to understand each character and the story, often they just don't get what's happening..
Shah and the others wouldn't have cared who they married Mihirimah off to as long as the alliance was theirs Hurrem chose Rustem because of his alliance, but he was also in love...more like obssessed with Mihirimah and she knew he would treat her daughter well
Not necessarily. A friend of mine wanted so much to have a daughter. So did her husband. She had three sons and they drove her crazy. She said she couldn't stand having any more boys, but because she wanted a daughter she would try for another baby girl. Well she got pregnant with twin boys. I had never seen her so mad when she found out. She still is a good mother to her sons, but she definitely envies my beautiful daughters.
Also hurrem made a great mistake in her love to suleyman when she give birth to mihrimah she wasn’t very happy at all she was angry at herself and she didn’t love her as much as her princes 🥺
Hurrem sultan is no longer a fish in water. She has transformed into a dragon. She will overcome all her enemies one by one! As the future teller said and then looked at her. First hafsa, then ibrahim, then hatice, then shah... Others later.
@@ΔημΣΚ No, Mahidevran aside, his mother and bff. Isolation isn't healthy, in the end he was left with only Hurrem, without opinions of others who were close to him and you saw what happened when she died, he couldn't recover. I think it would be better if she found a way to get along with them instead of eliminating all who wasn't her
@@ΔημΣΚ Yeah it was really complicated situation owerall. Well at least she was kind of his light in the darkness, I guess she simpatised with her father or sth
He did not want to marry her, but he did not want this snake Rustem to marry her either, because he thinks that she is to good for him (Rustem) which I agree.
In real life the princess and pasha , weren’t really a good couple? I asked because I’m sure I read somewhere that they’ve had a really good relationship
Hurrem,sultan Suleiman and all of his sons love for mihirmah was all words and no actions as it can be seen how happy they are to celebrate her wedding
Mirimah was unhappy all her life because of her marriage ugly and old Rustem (historical fact). Selum Was the worst sultan ever, all brave and smart princes were killed. I think really Smart woman would create the future of Ottomans and her children in totally other way.
don't talk about the history if you haven't read it. Mihrimah Sultan and Rustem Pasha lived happily, and fell in love with each other, it was a marriage with love (a real historical fact) and Selim was a good sultan, if you read at least a line of his biography. Better than anyone who ruled after him. Under him, the empire flourished, and he was merciful, he did not execute a single person during his reign.
Its sad tht people support hurrem in everything. Mahidevran did nothing wrong.. will you share your man with another women? What about mihrimah? Just because she's hurrem's daughter she married a old man who she dont even love. Fahriye was rescued by Mustafa. Hurrem plotted against him and fahriya cheated on them. No loyalty at all. What you feel when your brother's wife turn him away from you? Thats why hatice & shah were rebel to hurrem... And ofcourse at the end of the story most cruel won. But those women also deserved better just as Hurrem
U talking without even thinking of consequences... First of all it was 500 years back.. its about survival or u die . Mahidevran took place of gulfem.. hurrem took place of mahidevran. Mahidevran played with help of ibrahim to get of hurrem and her sons. Hurrem got into power she played with rustem to get rid of mustafa to save lives of her 4 son. Mihirma married to rustem wasnt it fr survival? If mustafa became sultan he would have got rid of all his competitors ehat do u think mihirma would have lived like pricess after that?? Or thrown to old palace like maids to live.. Havent u watched kosem sultan.. if u are not into power then u will be killed or live a life worst than a maid.
She is giving little look like safiya sultan but she isn't i know her she is actress from another drama but i don't know that drama name in Turkish language because i watched that in my language (Urdu) budded Sorry for my English i am not much good in it
circumcision (Muslim purification for males) They cut a small piece of skin from male part that is said to be dangerous for men's health and reproduction capacities after they grow.
This is stupid they way the play it. There is no WAY this guy was married to a maid now he is married to a sultan. He is also too old to be her husband.
Shah speaking like that was a bit surprising but she at least gets it. Hatice was fortunate enough to marry someone she loved. Albeit that ended in disaster. But there was no way the only living and highly favored daughter of Suiliman the Magnificent would ever get that choice. As terrible as it sounds, Mihrimah is to politically valuable.
Only fortune people gets a baby girl by grace of God but poor thoughts people needs boy and consider boys superior which is very poor down mentality both boy and girl is equal in the eyes of Almighty.
@@madelainepetrin1430a 17 year old isnt a child. They're going mad today because we pretend they're powerless little passive kids instead of grown human beings wanting a life.
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She wears blue, blue also mean sadness.. that's how she express her feelings
In truth, all these women were victims of a powerful male. Gulfem, lost 2 children and had to humble herself as she waa cast aside for Mahidevran who fell in love and then she too was cast aside. Hurrem has to constantly fight to keep her position. When it came down to it, they were all property of the Sultan. And frankly all were treated as brood mares, breed reproduce then move on....
The entirety of history...women were brood mares...ah, how lovely it is to be a women indeed...
😢
I feel bad for all those women who suffered in history. Just take the Ottoman Empire, the girls were kidnapped from their homes, forced in a harem they never wanted to be a part of, forced to adapt, learn dance musics and other....seduction skills...which must've felt humiliating...then fight other women to be on the Sultan's bed...the only way to survive and live a comfortable life if a son was produced...
The TRAUMA....Stockholm Syndrome was in stocks that's for sure
@@fictionlover695 They were not kidnapped from homes. They were brought from battle fields. If they weren't taken, they would be kidnapped by bandits and sold to brothels. The Sultan had the right to kill them as they were from the enemies' sides. He didn't and chose to bring them as slaves. And in what kind of oppressive environment do slaves become sultanas, grand viziers of an empire? The slaves wanted to get into Harem. Because there was hope to change their status and become part of royalty. These people did not work for free. They did not have families. Anyone could easily kidnap and traffick them. The sultan brought them in and gave them jobs. And who told you they were taught dance, music and SEDUCTION SKILLS? They were taught about science, history and arts of the country. Music and dance were learnt by men too. They were specifically taught to stay away from using such "seduction skills".These were considered to be vulgar. They did not do such things mentioned in the show. Nobody ever even saw these sultanas. Unrelated men weren't allowed to enter Harem. The pashas in the show are shown to be drinking at brothels often. This was illegal and they would be punished if found. Like tell me you know nothing about ottoman history without telling me about ottoman history.
They were still kidnapped . Taken away against their will . And harems were prisons
@@marionarda2790 Perfect example of people who just argue for the sake of arguing
@@anikamasudeve3202so that huge block of text still doesn’t excuse enslaving other people to become their brood mares or workers. The fact that they are forced to please another human being just to not be slaughtered is sick
Hurrum was so happy becoming a Grandmother to her own Daughter, who had Daughter
Lady afife is so kind she is like a grandmother to Mirhima and a mother to sultana hurrem
Shah said it right. No woman especially in that status would marry for love. It's all about political alliance. Not sure why Hatice would think different.
She always had a soft spot for her niece. She wanted to see her marrying the man she'd grow to love like she had
That's why Shah would find someone of her own for mihrimah sultan, that was her plan. Thankfully hurrem sultana stopped Shahs plans
Because she married Ibrahin, someone who loves. Suleiman supported their love. Maybe because of it she can't accept the whole scene where Hurem forcefyully married Mihrimah. She hasn't experienced this devastating moment in woman's life.
@@радостдобромироваshe has actually. In the series, She married an old pasha who died like 3months after their marriage. Then got remarried to Ibrahim.
In real life she wasn't married to Ibrahim. All marriages were mostly political alliances at that time
@@радостдобромирова that marriage of Hatice and Ibrahim in the show had a lot of political influence. That way, no one could strongly reject Ibrahim because he was married to the dynasty. It just happened that Hatice knew him and fell in love. For her, he was like the Balibey of Mirihmah.
My heart still aches whenever I remember how things turned out bad for the siblings. How painful Mustafa died and Cihangir and then Bayezid with his sons.
Same, it was sad... Mihrimah cryed for her brothers and in end it was just her and Selim left and she lost her husband but got little happiness two children one girl and one boy
All because of the witch Hürrem and Mihrimah
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10:09 finally hurrem sultan is first in line. Yeah, now it's the right line!
In real life Mihrimah was wery clever and classy she had nothing against marrying Rustem and she grow to love him they had a wery happy marrige and he treated her like a Queen
Good for her, she did love Rustem in series too and they had two children together
I read the opposite, so....,😲
@@marihillestad5486 no she never loved Rustem in the series, true they had two children but after Hurrem's death Mihrimah killed Rustem
@@emushi8394 so true, in real life they loved each other
At the end she got sick got sick of him and and arranged his murder😂😂😂😂
Everyone here is claming Hurrem, valide, dragon etc... but nobody sees Mihrimah's sadness
I see, I see...
Inarrangedmarriageslikethese, brideznd groom arethelatpersonstohaveanyopinion. Theyareexoectedtobehappy by default......!!!
@@manodiptam100 wouate ?
26:49 27:56 28:42 hurrem sultana looks like true valide sultan. The next time we see the crown it will be on kosem sultana!
Shah had it right unfortunately. Hatice's words shouldn't even be listened to. She knew what it was to be married off too, it happened already to her and it was almost done again until she got her way and got to marry Ibrahim. But they were both spoiled children, used to getting what they wanted from the Sultan and got greedy. Unfortunately, women of high standing really didn't get a choice, it was about political power and alliances, not love. Also, don't forget, Hurrem went to Bali Bey first. She tried, but seeing the other sultanas trying to manipulate the situation, she had to act. If it wouldn't have been Rustem, it would have been someone else, so Shah and the gang are hypocrites. They wouldn't have cared if it had been someone of THEIR choosing marrying the poor girl, they were all blinded in their quest to stick it to Hurrem.
💯💯💯🎯🎯🎯Finally someone who says the truth about what happened in this series!!
Can't stand the comments anymore that have a narrative that doesn't align with what we all can clearly see happening, just because they want to change the script because of personal feelings.. They don't even try to understand each character and the story, often they just don't get what's happening..
Shah and the others wouldn't have cared who they married Mihirimah off to as long as the alliance was theirs
Hurrem chose Rustem because of his alliance, but he was also in love...more like obssessed with Mihirimah and she knew he would treat her daughter well
Don't be sad mihirimah...... still in 2023 parents don't want us, they want boys as their children
Not necessarily. A friend of mine wanted so much to have a daughter. So did her husband. She had three sons and they drove her crazy. She said she couldn't stand having any more boys, but because she wanted a daughter she would try for another baby girl. Well she got pregnant with twin boys. I had never seen her so mad when she found out. She still is a good mother to her sons, but she definitely envies my beautiful daughters.
Exactly
😂😂😂
@@lovetobe6118yes your experience is entire world's experience. Delulu
20:00 i do not know what she is singing but it sounds so beautiful it made me cry😢❤
she is a famous singer in turkey actually
Mera sultan hindii mai dub Kiya dekho aur song suno bulbul hoti mai aap Bina roye rh nhi sakte itna touching hai
Does someone know the title of the music ?
@@katalinbogdan9997the name of this Song “ bülbül olsam” the singer ist Şevval Sam
Thank you ❤@@Sarcastic-w2q
Ibrahim and now mahidevran call hurrem sultan 'dragon' as episode 46 said. Both confirm the prophecy is all about hurrem sultana!
I have seen this series about 5 6 times and I never get bored❤
Same, series is amazing and Costumes and Drama
Me too...
35:48 the most beautiful reaction of a maternal grandmother 😊
Did anyoune notice in 17:18 there was some rock after golds
I think it's some custom 🤔
Also hurrem made a great mistake in her love to suleyman when she give birth to mihrimah she wasn’t very happy at all she was angry at herself and she didn’t love her as much as her princes 🥺
Hurrem sultan is no longer a fish in water. She has transformed into a dragon. She will overcome all her enemies one by one! As the future teller said and then looked at her. First hafsa, then ibrahim, then hatice, then shah... Others later.
You know I would like if she tought about consequences this way of thinking had on others, especialy on Suleiman. Everyone needs family and friends
@@ivanapervan3783 mahidevran? Well yeah me too
@@ΔημΣΚ No, Mahidevran aside, his mother and bff. Isolation isn't healthy, in the end he was left with only Hurrem, without opinions of others who were close to him and you saw what happened when she died, he couldn't recover. I think it would be better if she found a way to get along with them instead of eliminating all who wasn't her
@@ivanapervan3783 then they should have been friends with her, she wanted, they didnt. Also he had mihrimah sultan so he wasn't alone
@@ΔημΣΚ Yeah it was really complicated situation owerall. Well at least she was kind of his light in the darkness, I guess she simpatised with her father or sth
Bali be didn't want to marry mihrimah sultan. What is hurrem's fault here? She asked bali be twice if he want to marry her daughter, he said no.
He did not want to marry her, but he did not want this snake Rustem to marry her either, because he thinks that she is to good for him (Rustem) which I agree.
Bali Bey was her 2 nd cousin
@@Avacadoplayzblueworld12213Well, it is allowed.
Rustem.really love her so Hurem is trying to make good choices. How she can choose son or daughter. She tried everything.
😂😂😂 yess ofcourse a man double mihrimah's age, ofcourse,hurrem is trying her best in using mihrimah to secure her son's fate
Mustafa so kind and beautiful but the bad people win
can someone put a clip where Rustem sees teen Mihrimah for the first time. please
She asked from bali bey for mihrihmah but he said no
In real life the princess and pasha , weren’t really a good couple? I asked because I’m sure I read somewhere that they’ve had a really good relationship
Το αντίθετο..δεν είχαν ευτυχισμένο γάμο.Έτσι,τουλάχιστον,έχω διαβάσει.
Yes they had she loved him and he treated her as a Queen. And he was an exeptional father and she loved his son from a previus marrige like her own.
Indeed, it waznt a dramatic marriage like this in the series. They had a good marriage rather focused on respect.
SELIM! don't scare your brother's! Poor baby
He's just doing average brother things.
Hurrem,sultan Suleiman and all of his sons love for mihirmah was all words and no actions as it can be seen how happy they are to celebrate her wedding
Mirimah was unhappy all her life because of her marriage ugly and old Rustem (historical fact). Selum Was the worst sultan ever, all brave and smart princes were killed. I think really Smart woman would create the future of Ottomans and her children in totally other way.
don't talk about the history if you haven't read it. Mihrimah Sultan and Rustem Pasha lived happily, and fell in love with each other, it was a marriage with love (a real historical fact)
and Selim was a good sultan, if you read at least a line of his biography. Better than anyone who ruled after him. Under him, the empire flourished, and he was merciful, he did not execute a single person during his reign.
@@bhtvn_ That's good to know.
18:12 yea mahidevil. Hurrem sultan is the valide sultan, not you!
Its sad tht people support hurrem in everything. Mahidevran did nothing wrong.. will you share your man with another women? What about mihrimah? Just because she's hurrem's daughter she married a old man who she dont even love. Fahriye was rescued by Mustafa. Hurrem plotted against him and fahriya cheated on them. No loyalty at all. What you feel when your brother's wife turn him away from you? Thats why hatice & shah were rebel to hurrem... And ofcourse at the end of the story most cruel won. But those women also deserved better just as Hurrem
Whoever supports Whorrem is just a traaashhhh like her.
😂😂
You're right
Ban i ask why episode 5 and 6 has change??
U talking without even thinking of consequences... First of all it was 500 years back.. its about survival or u die .
Mahidevran took place of gulfem.. hurrem took place of mahidevran. Mahidevran played with help of ibrahim to get of hurrem and her sons. Hurrem got into power she played with rustem to get rid of mustafa to save lives of her 4 son. Mihirma married to rustem wasnt it fr survival? If mustafa became sultan he would have got rid of all his competitors ehat do u think mihirma would have lived like pricess after that?? Or thrown to old palace like maids to live..
Havent u watched kosem sultan.. if u are not into power then u will be killed or live a life worst than a maid.
Bayezid: am not a child
Same bayezid watching and enjoying puppet show😂
28:40 that's the most beautiful scene
So hurrem will become a good sultana as she help and loved by the poor people and childreen around her...
She os doing it for the fame not because she wants to
Hurrem is villian mom 😢
Why?
5:54 look, mahidevran calls hurrem sultan dragon
19:56 safiye sultan😳
She is giving little look like safiya sultan but she isn't i know her she is actress from another drama but i don't know that drama name in Turkish language because i watched that in my language (Urdu) budded
Sorry for my English i am not much good in it
Why they couldn't find a primce for mirhima?
What were they doing to bayezid and chihangir?
circumcision (Muslim purification for males)
They cut a small piece of skin from male part that is said to be dangerous for men's health and reproduction capacities after they grow.
Обрезание крайней плоти. Для гигиены. Там ы жарких странах жарко и под кожей где головка из-за жары развиваются всякие бактерии и инфекции могут быть
@@shiraseastar2624 this is a myth. Cutting it off means men have less sensation. It is mutilation.
11:40 what physician had done to the princes?
This is stupid they way the play it. There is no WAY this guy was married to a maid now he is married to a sultan. He is also too old to be her husband.
The age disparity was very common then.- 20 years or more. It's still common in Muslim countries.
@@madelainepetrin1430in same tome Henry the VIII married Kathreine Howard who was 23 years younger.
20:00 knows anyone this song? Where can i find it ?
Bülbül olsam
@@sourdough912 Thank you so much! ♡
@@katalinbogdan9997 you’re welcome
Mihrimah hanya mencintai Balibei 💔💔💔💔,sedih
More obsessed with him
What is the episode number?
23:07 Which language is this?
Turkish
Persian!
Shah speaking like that was a bit surprising but she at least gets it. Hatice was fortunate enough to marry someone she loved. Albeit that ended in disaster. But there was no way the only living and highly favored daughter of Suiliman the Magnificent would ever get that choice. As terrible as it sounds, Mihrimah is to politically valuable.
The child actors in this show are so great
am i the only one who likes rustem?😔
Hurrem was crying while Mehrimah was carried away.
Made for each other rustam n mihirmah murderer s
Hurrem gettin thin here.what happened?is is it true she had problem with her health?
Only fortune people gets a baby girl by grace of God but poor thoughts people needs boy and consider boys superior which is very poor down mentality both boy and girl is equal in the eyes of Almighty.
Hurrem promised Mihrimah to marry someone her heart wants. And now Rustem? haha yuck i cannot!
Rustem Pasha was an evil snake. I didn't like him at all.
Que idioma é esse?
The series are Turkish
Sge couldnt marry Bali Vey bc he was her cousin
7:30 ahahahaha well said!
Why couldn't she marry Balli Bey
And people still love hurrem,who used her daughter for her son fortune!
All pashas had to be old.
Cauz they would stary as jannichars and it takes a lot od time to become a pasha.
Rustem is up to his nasty tricks again!
.. & melieyhsseaa.. 😮😮
the most nastry tradition in islam is circumsicion
Child bride is worse.
@@madelainepetrin1430a 17 year old isnt a child. They're going mad today because we pretend they're powerless little passive kids instead of grown human beings wanting a life.
What are they doing with the prince?? In the bed?
History says he didn't marry hatice
Why have children if they are expect to kill each other 😢
Good
Mutilation is so disgusting.
I think it's so sad that Mihrimah married Rustem.. He is a bad person 😢😢
😢😢😢
Lifebwconeverydiffivcult when yourmotherbecomesurenemy foryour"marriagw" i can understsnd asminwisrightnowbehavingthatway.
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