I'm minding my business and RUclips has done it again. Popped a random video into my feed and now I have to stop what I'm doing to see what led up to this scene.
I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but there is far too much leading up to this scene to cover that here. You may want to watch the whole Magnificent Century Kosem series (at least season 2) to properly understand that. This scene by itself has none of the context of what leads to this point. The key episodes for understanding this scene are probably 38 to 46 Although 31, 32, & 33 help explain Murad, Ayse & Farya's characters, & what started all this in the first place.
I don't thinks she does it to protect the children. She does it to get revenge on Sultan Murad. She has had no scruples about using her children in her schemes & plots before. Remember Ayse took Ahmed with her as a human shield when Kosem summoned her to her chambers late at night to confront her after Ayse tried to have Farya murdered on the way to Uskadr. And she took Hanzade to Kosem's chambers as an explanation for being in Kosem's chamber when she goes there to steal Kosem's seal for Gulbahar.
It’s interesting that anyone with any familiarity with Ottoman History wouldn’t know that a Prince without a Mother in the Harem often didn’t live long, and once a Brother took the throne, he often was killed anyway. Unless he was crippled.
She chose the absolute right words. I find it so sad how no one cares that she is dead too. That showed that she was just there for Murads amusement as long as it lasted and that she was just a vessel for babies to give to him. Nothing more. She herself had no value. And knowing what happens to motherless children in the harem, she did what was probalby right. Even if Murad would not have killed them, then maybe Farya would have poisened them later on. They were not safe the moment that her death was sealed.
Ayse could not have known how much Murad would change after Bayezid, Kosem & Kasim betray him & after Kosem murders Farya & Silahatar & after Gulbahar murders his baby princes. So that part of Ayse's letter seems very disingenuous. I don't think Murad or Farya would ever have killed Murad's children. Murad loved his children a great deal & Ahmed would have been his heir when he changes the succession laws. Farya never kills anyone except in combat or in self defence and she never harms any innocents. The only person Farya tries to kill is Ayse after her unborn baby is murdered as she knew Ayse did it. Even though Farya has flaws & makes mistakes, she is one of the very few genuinely good major characters. The only others are Geverhan, Atike, Ibrahim, Evilya & Herzafen. However, it's likely that Bayezid or Kasim would have murdered Murad's son if either became sultan. Or Gulbahar may have murdered them just like she murdered Murad' & Farya's baby's princes. Agree it's extremely dangerous for motherless children in the harem - one of the reasons that Kosem murdering Farya made no sense. By murdering Farya, Kosem virtually dooms her 2 baby grandsons to be murdered by Gulbahar. It goes without saying that Farya would have protected her baby princes just as fiercely as Kosem or Hurrem or Mahideverhan had protected theirs.
@@CadwallonMawr - I agree. Farya had more integrity than most of the other characters on the show! 🤷🏻♀️🫤 And she was the only person in Murad's life who actually obeyed him! She did demand loyalty & monogamy from him, but she was his actual wife, not just some concubine... so that makes sense. Her death was honestly really disgusting. She didn't deserve what happened to her.
Agree 100%. Kaya (Ayse's baby daughter) is proof that neither Murad or Farya would hurt Ayse's children. After Ayse's death, Kaya is loved and cared for by all particularly by Murad & Atike & she survives the show. We also learn that Sanavber & Farya take particular care of Kaya when she is a baby. Compared to most of the other characters, Farya is good hearted & unflinchingly loyal to Murad. She deserved a much better ending than this. In my opinion, these murders really diminish the rest of the series and almost ruin Kosem & Kermankes as characters. In case it helps you feel any better, it seems the actors playing Farya & Silahatar may have decided to leave the show suddenly (which if true) explains why the 2 characters ended so quickly in ways that make little sense . @@KabbalahSherry
Here I was, minding my own business and this random video pops up. Now, I am so invested. I have to find out everything, from the history of this country to the horoscope of the actors.
@@AS-yz2iz it is no one else’s choice though either. The children - the son a 100% certainty - were marked for death. She spared them waiting for it. A coward waits for others to do the deed, a brave person picks their moment to leave. Three slaves died because one of them decided they’d be free. It’s actually beautiful. It showed such love.
@@SuperStella1111 Nope. The children had every right to be allowed to live. The mother had no right to take that from them. No one. No one knows what the future holds. It's murder, and you're here advocating a mother's right to kill her children. That's sick. It's not beautiful, and it's definitely NOT love. You have no idea what love is, if that's what you believe. Sad. A coward takes the cowards way out. A brave person sticks it out and fights till the end. You have it backwards.
In this episode for the first I was sad and was also glad to see what ayse did which I think she should have done very much earlier..although I do feel sad for the kids who drowned in between but this way of dying with their mother was way more better than dying in future in other's hands..she defeated Murad in a different way which he could've never imagined
Ayse should have avoided her acts of treason & murder, put up with her own pain and dedicated her life to bringing up her children & getting Ahmed enthroned - like Mahideverhan did for Mustafa
I find it depressing that it wasn't until Ayse and her children died that Murad and his family finally started caring so much about them, They cared for them yes but over the course we could see that their minds shifted on Murad and Farya even their wedding celebration was overfilled with joy and celebration and Ayse was given nothing but an cold face from Murad when she had given birth to kaya, After their deaths we also saw an shift kaya was shown much more and Murad favoured her over the twins and his sister looked after her and showed more car for her then the twins.
No sure why you see it that way? Murad always loved his children, but Ayse lost his love because of the horrible things she did e.g. having his unborn baby killed & stealing his mother's seal & giving it to Gulbahar which caused the great fire & thousands of people to be killed. Just like Mahideverhan lost Suleyman's love after she tied to poison Hurrem. And don't forget that Murad became more cruel & brutal after the attack on Farya & the great fire.
@@Bondockable I do know history. There was no guarantee what he would have don't to them. He didn't live very long, so likely he would t have done anything. But, that's besides the point. You don't murder children, or anyone for that matter, because of some hypothetical evil that "might" happen to them. Murder is murder. It's wrong. Always. Period. The End.
@@AS-yz2iz yes murder is murder, so when sultan dies, what happens to all his sons who arn't next in line? don't know do you? They are MURDERED! what happens when they displease the sultan? They are murdered. grow up and learn something.
@@Bondockable Of course I know. That still doesn't justify their mother murdering them. Why don't you learn something? 2 wrongs don't make a right. So, now instead of the sultan (maybe) murdering them, their mother murders them, and that's okay? Your reasoning is twisted. No one has a right to take innocent life. NO ONE.
she chose the absolute right words I find it so sad how no one that is dead too that showed that she was just there for Murads amusement as long as it that she was just
In the end he was most concerned about losing his male heir 'Ahmed...Ahmed..Ahmed' - everyone else was dispensable, including his wife who he planned to murder once she left the capital......even his little daughter was not that important to him.
I trust you are aware of all the dreadful crimes Ayse committed. If not, it’s summarised in episode 45 in Ghulbars letter to Farya in which Ghulbar confesses everything. In the scene where Murad confronts Ayse he says something like I don’t see you as the mother of my children but as a traitor to my dynasty
I think he was upset about all of them, but the death of Ahmed was the most crushing at that moment since Ahmed was Ahmed's last remaining prince at that time.
When one is not embraced by the village they shall burn it to the ground to feel it's warmth. Fitting I'd say, he was a bad husband so he didn't deserve those kids.... Usually kings never do.
A woman can give life and take it away, as cruel as Ayse was to take the lives of her children, the fate that could have potentially awaited them after her execution could have been far worse. Ayse would not only have her life taken away, but everything Murad loved too.
Her son is 100% dead no matter what. She made absolutely the right choice. You don’t sit around waiting for your masters to kill uou. You seize the freedom of death with both hands.
Sorry no, Ayse didn't take away everything Murad loved. For example, Ayse didn't take away Bayezid, Geverhan, Silahatar, Farya, Kosem, Ibrahim, Atike or his twin baby princes with Farya. Gulbahar & Sinan are far more responsible for taking away the people Murad loves than Ayse. And G&S basically manipulated Ayse into poisoning herself & her childreb
@@TushinskyVorIIAyse took away Murad's most desired/loved thing: his legacy. By taking her son from him, she made him an heirless sultan. He had sons with Farya after this, but they died too. Ayse's children were all healthy by all appearance, if she had not done what she did, Murad's legacy would've survived.
Be very careful about what you believe in letters in the MC/MCK franchise. Sultan Suleiyman executed his beloved oldest son Prince Mustafa because of a fraudulent letter. Then he lost another beloved son Chahangir who died of a broken heart because he couldn’t save Mustafa.
why am I only seeing this?! anyway, this is refreshing because most Queen consorts wanted to put their children on the throne as the revenge to their husbands, the King. But she, Sultana, took her children with her in death, not for revenge, but to save them from their father. This is wrong yet, I've never seen death as meaningful as this. Also I realized one thing women have always had the power to take things that they gave because they're the one who gave it voluntarily. a meaning for 'you can have my body but never my heart'
@@AS-yz2izIt was wrong ofc but consider this, in her time there was no chance she could divorce/separate, live alone peacefully, or take her children or live in peace with them without being labelled an outcast / 'shamefully divorced woman' which nobody would want to associate with nevermind allow her to work for them - that was their system back then, it was their society's expectations so it would be futile to argue with it using modern standards. You seem to also forget that Murad planned to have the mother of his children who had recently given birth MURDERED as seen in the execution order (which is not excusable either)...A person like Murad who is all too willing to take a life - what makes you think he wouldn't do it AGAIN ? To use & abuse others not limited to his other wives but also other kids in future? There is such a thing as past behaviour being a good PREDICTOR /indicator of future behaviour, in fact, prison inmates commonly show a HIGH rate of RE-OFFENDING ... Not to mention the physiological (this includes physical) changes that occur to a woman after giving birth are most pronounced within the first 2 years since the baby is constantly taking nutrients & minerals from the mother's body to grow during her pregnancy. Instead of being grateful for having another child who was safe and healthy he wanted to get rid of the one who created the life within her body. What does this say about him as a person? Also, the death rate for women giving birth used to be much higher e.g. for a while it was a 1/40 maternal mortality rate (!) since there was no infection control, no epidural & generally a very rudimentary understanding of medicine even in the wealthier families of the later Ottoman empire.
@@angelp4724 I understand that, but none of it justifies Ayse killing her children. None of us knows what the future holds. As for Murad having Ayse executed, one could argue that that was actually a moral decision. We forget, because it's not in this clip, that by stealing Kosem's seal, she helped send Murad's best men to their death when the ship burned, and that was also responsible for half of Istanbul burning to the ground and hundreds of people losing their lives. In addition to causing Fahriye to miscarry, Ayse was responsible for a lot of horror. People get the death penalty for much less. Regardless, Ayse was guilty of crimes, and her children were not. It's not up to a mother to decide when her children should die. And, even if she had other reasons (none of which could be valid), the main reason she did it was to spite Murad.
@@angelp4724I totally agree with you! I don't understand people who keep backing up murad (and far ya, ugh I don't like her), Ayse could very much have postpartum depression with what she faced during pregnancy and after birth. all in all, I think throughout the story, Murad is the ones, that always make bad decisions, trust the wrong people, love the wrong people etc. that's why he suffers to the end
@@Ch50304 no excuses for that what she did to her children. Mustafa killer Hürrem was in such situations lots of times but she never killed her children.
This show how a destructive man can absolutely treat you like garbage even if you put you're soul into there feet. There is no guarantee that they will even treat you like human beings. They will throw you like a garbage as soon as they're done using them😢
@@Afsara-rf5kb ya nice joke. Look if you bring law into it then let me remind you that there are still countries where women have zero rights on there life. It's extremely poor of men to feel sorry for themselves when laws are against them while they're quite happy where the laws are in there favor in 2024. There are places where if husband dies then wife doesn't have any right on his property and male members of husband family can claim it. And in order to survive they have to obey them. Or there are countries where they openly kidnapped women and forced them to marry and since they come from a society where if women enter any men house even though they're victims they're not acceptable in there own homes and have to marry there abusers or kidnappers. There is no denying in that in countries where women are getting hands on law are taking advantage of it and we need to stand with it in order to protect the society but this claim that it's a bullcrap show the ignorance of men in society.
That's just not so. He loved all of them. He grieves for Hanzade in this scene as well & he laments what happens to Ayse later. Murad always loved Ayse - although he loved Farya more. Ayse was Murad's first love. Murad is probably meant to be about 21 years old at this stage - so he probably met Ayse when they were about 13 or 14 given how old their children are
Sorry, but you can't really say this is a win for Ayse. Where do you think Ayse will be going after doing this? And Ayse has many other innocent victims who lost their lives because of her, that she will have to account for. At least Gulbahar was motivated to do what she did by her love for her son Bayezid
Really, Ayse sultan (wife of sultan Murad Khan iv of Ottoman Empire) was died in 1680 during the reign of sultan Mehmed iv of Ottoman Empire and not committed suicide along with her children as shown in this series 🇹🇷!
@@CadwallonMawrthat's true but I think even if Mahidevran would've died earlier Mustafa would have many people who would support him. Like Valide , Hatice , Ibrahim. Mustafa still had them and also he had Mahidevran. But Ayse didn't have that support for her son . Mustafa however had everyone's support Still he couldn't succeed to the throne and it's main reason I think Hurrem became Suleiman's more favourite. Ayse understood that from the past that all that matters in the end is you have to have the sultan in your side. If you don't have him nothing will help you in the end. And in these games of power your son will eventually die no matter what. So whatever Ayse did maybe she was worried about her son's future ,that it might be worse than imagination. And he'll eventually die or get executed in the end. this is why she better chose her son to die now , without facing any of those traumas and sorrows. It's good she did it. Murad broke her heart she broke his too. A good revenge.
@@saaymaaroshni6324 Agree with a lot of that. Although Mustafa was a always a great threat to Hurrem's sons, partly because he was the eldest prince & obvious heir & partly because of his massive popularity with the people, the janissaries, 2 of his own brothers & the dynasty sultanas etc. And that played a big part in Mustafa's downfall. Whereas Ahmed (Ayse's son) wasn't the eldest prince or obvious heir - that was Bayezid first, then Kasim, then Ibrahim, then Ahmed. And it was far too early to know if Ahmed would ever have become a threat to the other princes. Also Kosem would have protected Ahmed, at least until he became an adult. So I don't think we can know what would have happened to Ahmed. But it wasn't really Ayse's call to make anyway. I think she only did it to hurt Murad, not to protect her children. Hence, if we call a spade a spade, what Ayse did appears to just be cold blooded murder.
@@CadwallonMawr in real history murad had caged and killed all his brothers sparing Ibrahim causing him to become a madman. Bayezid and kasim were probably dead
The poignant reminder, women if they love their man will grow what ever he gives her, a house becomes a home, food becomes a meal, love creates warmth and acknowledgement in the world, sperm becomes a child to love and a family in this world - men honour this ability by providing and protecting this wonderful magic of life and love. Together they are one. The sultan forgot the mother of his children loved the man behind the throne and shared her mind, body and love with him blossoming into children to expand their love. She loved her children enough that if their father would not honour that love, that gift , she had the will to match his play, the ultimate move - to take it all away, to leave him reflecting on the empty space that once was filled with warmth and love. Starting again is hard when the loss is hard to bare. The surviving child will either be cherished beyond what she would have been or she will be constantly reminded by all that her mother murdered her siblings. In all likelihood she will feel the burning question of why - and then either the lost of love that she was left behind or hatred towards her father for causing such a checkmate move by her mother. Either way - this lady if she survives will know the strength of the family tree she is born and her mother was made of strength she can be proud of if sad about at the same time. Either way \i would not want to be the woman who told her that she was marked for death - I suspect she would live long enough to reflect on her move against the children's mother. She will no doubt be next to be executed as the Sultan is unlikely to kill his own mother letting the children see their mother one last time. So that leaves the other lover of the sultan to take the full impact of his grief and anger. So as the bearer of his children said - he destroys everything he loves will play out as she said in the note. Plus the son and mother relationship will forever be soured against all future grandchildren. The Sultans world has just completely collapsed because he did not value what the universe and love gave him freely. Moral message to be learnt for sure.
@@Mira-gu6we I know but killing her children wasn't the answer the children were innocent and Aysha isn't an angel herself don't you not why she was being punished in the first place because she is the reason fariya lost her child
@@Afsara-rf5kb was ayse his wife by will?? Did he not abduct her and put her in harem by force?? Did he ask her permission when he brought the other woman? He gave her the death sentence. Men sleep around and think there are no consequences. He mistreated her, she left with all she gave him. Those babies would have ended up dead without their mums protection anyway.
I didn't like Ayse in the drama cause she was a troublemaker. But now i understand her pain. She was brought into the picture by force and making her the Sultan's favourite was part of Kosem's plan. She never really had any power. She felt extremely threatened when Farya walked in. But its not Farya's fault. She had no plan to be a concubine. She was a warrior princess. When she was wronged, it was reasonable she lashed out.
None of this really makes sense. Kosem knows that people who betray the dynasty must be punished by death no matter who they are (she tells Bayezid that earlier). Yet Kosem still orders that Ayse can see her children when she knows Ayse betrayed the dynasty. Why would Murad have set up this overcooked convoluted arrangement to have Ayse executed when she leaves the city - when he could have just sent the executioners in the dead of night? And why would Murad have lied to Kosem & Farya about the sentence? Also I can't help but think it was cruel of Murad to lie to Ayse about the true sentence. She deserved to know in advance to prepare herself to be ready when the time came.
Because he was a coward and did not want to look her in the eyes when the sentence was applied, also would give the children the illusion that their mother did not wanted them anymore because she would never be able to contact them ( logic)
When you seek to destroy someone, you don't destroy them, you destroy what they love the most. He placed his children above even Farye. Goes to show you drive someone to a certain point they will do anything to retaliate.
The original Muhteşem yüzyıl had it's issues but atleast kept all major historical events accurate and the fiction it threw in was either small or didn't interfere with main history. I know this is not a historic documentary and is free to the creative liberties of its writers/directors but MY:Kösem straight up insulted the memory of the great Sultan Murad IV, Farya's character is entirely fictional and of all his concubines, Ayşe sultan was Sultan Murad IV's favorite till his dying breath in 1640, Şehzade Ahmet passed away when he was like 2 years old and both Ayşe and Hanzade passed away 40 years later during the reign of Murad's great-nephew, Avcı Sultan Mehmet IV in 1680, just 3 years before the disastrous 2nd siege of Vienna.
Murad certainly made a mess of this execution. Yes, Ayse's crimes cost thousands of lives in the great fire, the life of Murad's unborn baby & left Murad's wife unable to have children. But how could Murad have answered Ahmed & Hanzade when they ask about their mother later? So gaoling her in Maiden tower would have been smarter. And why didn't Murad tell his mother & his wife the real sentence & order them to keep it secret - particularly as his wife was Ayse's main victim & his mother was keeping Ayse & the children separated? Also, why was it necessary to have Ayse executed away from the palace when Murad could just have sent executioners at night? Murad would also know that rival sultanas/favourites often have a final confrontation after a feud. Sometimes to gloat like Hurrem did with Firuze, or to concede defeat & pass the baton like Safiye did with Kosem, or to seek forgiveness like Hurrem did with Mahideverhan. Even Ayse herself went to confront Farya in the dungeon (after the pig head incident) when she thought Farya was about to be executed. Murad also knows how fiery & volatile Farya can be & how devastated she is by what Ayse did to her. So Murad should have realised that Farya might try to confront Ayse & taken steps to prevent it.
As sad as that scene is, I keep trying not to laugh for about 30 seconds of the music. Starting at 19:33 it sounds like a bunch of those rubber chickens being squeezed.
he didn't understand even when he fell off his horse and touched the ground like a pauper..... first Ayshe, mother of his children, women who he promised love next Farya, somone who he promised love too next Gevherhan ,sister who he stole love ....shame
Well, in real there wasn't any farya in sultan murad's harem..as it has been written in historical evidences, ayse was the most favorite concubine of murad till her death...
No sorry this is all Gulbahar & Sinan's work. They manipulated & provoked Ayse every step of the way to this point. It is all part of their plan. Ayse & her children are just the first of the dominoes that G&S topple on their way to bringing down Kosem & Murad. Without G&S, Ayse would have still been a valued member of the imperial family, Murad's chief consort and the mother of a prince - because she would never have arranged the attack on Farya or stolen Kosem's seal. Ayse should have listened to Narin & never trusted Gulbahar.
Nobody died because of Farya except for the people she killed in self defence or in combat. Thousands died because of Ayse including her own 2 children who she murdered & Farya’’s baby who she also had killed
Can see why you think that but I think Gulbahar & Sinan are much more to blame. They stoked Ayse's insecurities & jealousies from the start. Then they manipulated Ayse into her worst actions against Farya which cost Farya her baby & nearly killed her. Then Gulbahar blackmailed Ayse into stealing Kosem's seal which caused the great fire & thousands of deaths. Then Gulbahar wrote to Farya divulging all of Ayse's crimes. So Gulbahar & Sinan have very big parts in this.
@CadwallonMawr I don't consider killing her kids a bad thing since it's known that children don't survive long in the harem without a mother figure. There was always a possibility that someone else would take them in, but it was low and personally not something I would've risked just because of the *chance* that someone might step in for me.
Sorry, not really. Sinan & Gulbahar the traitors are more to blame. The pulled the strings & made Ayse do all the terrible things that led up to this, then Gulbahar confessed what Ayse had done. Ayse should have listened to her maid Narin & not trusted Gulbahar
Not so. Strangled not hanged. Like many of the best noble characters in MC/MCK - eg Sheyzade Mustafa (Mahideverhan's son), Sheyzade Bayezid (Hurrem's son), Sultan Osman, Sheyzade Mehmed (Kosem's son), Ibrahim Pargali, Ahmed Pasha, Abaza Mehmed Pasha & of course Kosem herself. Although Kosem's death was a lot more demeaning & undignified than the rest.
That’s a pretty unusual definition of sidechick given Murad married her against his mothers wishes, he Executed 100s of people because of the attack on her, she has 2 princes for the dynasty & she becomes rue presumptive next Valide Sultan. Just saying
Ayse’s baby Kaya is loved & protected by everyone & she survives the show. Atike takes her with her when she leaves the palace for ever after Kosem murders Ibrahim
She killed a woman's baby and made her barren. I think it was the woman who told her she was going to be killed. There might be more but I know that was a big one
Ayse also stole Kosem’s seal 9 gave it to Ghulbahar which caused the great fire of Istanbul & burnt half the capital & killed thousands of innocent people. Ayse stole the seal for Ghulbahar in exchange for Ghulbahar silencing the people who could identify Ayse as the person who arranged the attack on Farya which killed Fayas baby & left her unable to have children, Finally she tried to poison Ghulbahar to silence her which backfires when Ghulbahar writes to Farya confessing everything
These thing is not related to islam its actually a man nature even in other religions one legal wife but many extra marital affairs and sexual relations,islam also instructed to give them equal rights but here in dynasities its a game for thrones only
@@priyapari7789 there is always influence of culture of the land. But I don't think polygamy or polyandry can be a sign of any civilised society. It is against human nature.Monogamy is according to the nature of mankind.
It’s a pretty long list but the worst crimes are arranging the attack on Farya which killed Farya’s unborn baby, almost killled & left her unable to have children and then betraying Kosem by stealing her seal & giving it to Ghulbahar which caused the great fire of Istanbul which burnt down most of the capital & killed thousands of innocent people & then she tries to poison Ghulbahar to silence her.
I'm minding my business and RUclips has done it again. Popped a random video into my feed and now I have to stop what I'm doing to see what led up to this scene.
Omg you too? Well, I guess we have no choice but to succumb to our fates…
Facts 😂 why this
Ikr it's actually my maths exam tomorrow and here I am Watching this ...
Same here 😂
I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but there is far too much leading up to this scene to cover that here. You may want to watch the whole Magnificent Century Kosem series (at least season 2) to properly understand that. This scene by itself has none of the context of what leads to this point. The key episodes for understanding this scene are probably 38 to 46 Although 31, 32, & 33 help explain Murad, Ayse & Farya's characters, & what started all this in the first place.
Children in this type of situation were never safe from severe abuse and murder. She did what she thought was right in order to protect them
I don't thinks she does it to protect the children. She does it to get revenge on Sultan Murad. She has had no scruples about using her children in her schemes & plots before. Remember Ayse took Ahmed with her as a human shield when Kosem summoned her to her chambers late at night to confront her after Ayse tried to have Farya murdered on the way to Uskadr. And she took Hanzade to Kosem's chambers as an explanation for being in Kosem's chamber when she goes there to steal Kosem's seal for Gulbahar.
You are right
So, she murdered them in order to save them from being murdered? What a ridiculous idea.
@@AS-yz2izThe sultans were murdering their own siblings when ascending to the throne during those times, chill tf out.
It’s interesting that anyone with any familiarity with Ottoman History wouldn’t know that a Prince without a Mother in the Harem often didn’t live long, and once a Brother took the throne, he often was killed anyway. Unless he was crippled.
She chose the absolute right words. I find it so sad how no one cares that she is dead too. That showed that she was just there for Murads amusement as long as it lasted and that she was just a vessel for babies to give to him. Nothing more. She herself had no value. And knowing what happens to motherless children in the harem, she did what was probalby right. Even if Murad would not have killed them, then maybe Farya would have poisened them later on. They were not safe the moment that her death was sealed.
Ayse could not have known how much Murad would change after Bayezid, Kosem & Kasim betray him & after Kosem murders Farya & Silahatar & after Gulbahar murders his baby princes. So that part of Ayse's letter seems very disingenuous. I don't think Murad or Farya would ever have killed Murad's children. Murad loved his children a great deal & Ahmed would have been his heir when he changes the succession laws. Farya never kills anyone except in combat or in self defence and she never harms any innocents. The only person Farya tries to kill is Ayse after her unborn baby is murdered as she knew Ayse did it. Even though Farya has flaws & makes mistakes, she is one of the very few genuinely good major characters. The only others are Geverhan, Atike, Ibrahim, Evilya & Herzafen. However, it's likely that Bayezid or Kasim would have murdered Murad's son if either became sultan. Or Gulbahar may have murdered them just like she murdered Murad' & Farya's baby's princes. Agree it's extremely dangerous for motherless children in the harem - one of the reasons that Kosem murdering Farya made no sense. By murdering Farya, Kosem virtually dooms her 2 baby grandsons to be murdered by Gulbahar. It goes without saying that Farya would have protected her baby princes just as fiercely as Kosem or Hurrem or Mahideverhan had protected theirs.
All those women in harem were just slaves. With pretty dresses, jewels, fancy food, soft pillows and servants, but slaves.
@@CadwallonMawr - I agree. Farya had more integrity than most of the other characters on the show! 🤷🏻♀️🫤 And she was the only person in Murad's life who actually obeyed him! She did demand loyalty & monogamy from him, but she was his actual wife, not just some concubine... so that makes sense. Her death was honestly really disgusting. She didn't deserve what happened to her.
Agree 100%. Kaya (Ayse's baby daughter) is proof that neither Murad or Farya would hurt Ayse's children. After Ayse's death, Kaya is loved and cared for by all particularly by Murad & Atike & she survives the show. We also learn that Sanavber & Farya take particular care of Kaya when she is a baby. Compared to most of the other characters, Farya is good hearted & unflinchingly loyal to Murad. She deserved a much better ending than this. In my opinion, these murders really diminish the rest of the series and almost ruin Kosem & Kermankes as characters. In case it helps you feel any better, it seems the actors playing Farya & Silahatar may have decided to leave the show suddenly (which if true) explains why the 2 characters ended so quickly in ways that make little sense . @@KabbalahSherry
It's not right to murder your own children. EVER! She did it to spite Murad.
Sometimes, death is winning! Being alive doesn't mean you won.
You're absolutely right ✅️ 1️⃣0️⃣0️⃣%.
Yes and farya got killed by him to do ayesa win
Killing your own children is not winning. It's murder.
Correct.
Depends. As someone who’s tried to off themselves multiple times, me being alive means I won 🤷🏾♀️
Here I was, minding my own business and this random video pops up. Now, I am so invested. I have to find out everything, from the history of this country to the horoscope of the actors.
You too?
She inflicted upon him what he inflicted on her, and her kids wouldn't have a chance withoout their Mother's protection.
That wasn't her choice to make. She murdered them.
Sorry not so. Ayse's remaining child - the baby Kaya - is loved and cared for by all and she survives the show.
@@AS-yz2iz it is no one else’s choice though either. The children - the son a 100% certainty - were marked for death. She spared them waiting for it. A coward waits for others to do the deed, a brave person picks their moment to leave. Three slaves died because one of them decided they’d be free. It’s actually beautiful. It showed such love.
@@CadwallonMawr yeah. A girl. A useless girl, who can’t inherit. No threat to anyone.
@@SuperStella1111 Nope. The children had every right to be allowed to live. The mother had no right to take that from them. No one. No one knows what the future holds. It's murder, and you're here advocating a mother's right to kill her children. That's sick. It's not beautiful, and it's definitely NOT love. You have no idea what love is, if that's what you believe. Sad. A coward takes the cowards way out. A brave person sticks it out and fights till the end. You have it backwards.
In this episode for the first I was sad and was also glad to see what ayse did which I think she should have done very much earlier..although I do feel sad for the kids who drowned in between but this way of dying with their mother was way more better than dying in future in other's hands..she defeated Murad in a different way which he could've never imagined
You're justifying murder? Not good.
Where is that episode please?
@@js.4758 Episode 46 in Magnificent Century Kosem
Ayse should have avoided her acts of treason & murder, put up with her own pain and dedicated her life to bringing up her children & getting Ahmed enthroned - like Mahideverhan did for Mustafa
So we’re going to applaud a family annihilator??? Really people????
I find it depressing that it wasn't until Ayse and her children died that Murad and his family finally started caring so much about them, They cared for them yes but over the course we could see that their minds shifted on Murad and Farya even their wedding celebration was overfilled with joy and celebration and Ayse was given nothing but an cold face from Murad when she had given birth to kaya, After their deaths we also saw an shift kaya was shown much more and Murad favoured her over the twins and his sister looked after her and showed more car for her then the twins.
No sure why you see it that way? Murad always loved his children, but Ayse lost his love because of the horrible things she did e.g. having his unborn baby killed & stealing his mother's seal & giving it to Gulbahar which caused the great fire & thousands of people to be killed. Just like Mahideverhan lost Suleyman's love after she tied to poison Hurrem. And don't forget that Murad became more cruel & brutal after the attack on Farya & the great fire.
Those kids dodged a bullet. If that wasn't completely made up, Wikipedia said she died sometime after Sultan Murad IV died.
They dodged a bullet by being murdered by their mother our of spite to their father? Crazy morals you have.
@@AS-yz2iz don't know much about history do you? what she did was a mercy compared to what their father was eventually going to do to them.
@@Bondockable I do know history. There was no guarantee what he would have don't to them. He didn't live very long, so likely he would t have done anything. But, that's besides the point. You don't murder children, or anyone for that matter, because of some hypothetical evil that "might" happen to them. Murder is murder. It's wrong. Always. Period. The End.
@@AS-yz2iz yes murder is murder, so when sultan dies, what happens to all his sons who arn't next in line? don't know do you? They are MURDERED! what happens when they displease the sultan? They are murdered. grow up and learn something.
@@Bondockable Of course I know. That still doesn't justify their mother murdering them. Why don't you learn something? 2 wrongs don't make a right. So, now instead of the sultan (maybe) murdering them, their mother murders them, and that's okay? Your reasoning is twisted. No one has a right to take innocent life. NO ONE.
she chose the absolute right words I find it so sad how no one that is dead too that showed that she was just there for Murads amusement as long as it that she was just
In the end he was most concerned about losing his male heir 'Ahmed...Ahmed..Ahmed' - everyone else was dispensable, including his wife who he planned to murder once she left the capital......even his little daughter was not that important to him.
It is partially understandable, because he must have a heir.
I trust you are aware of all the dreadful crimes Ayse committed. If not, it’s summarised in episode 45 in Ghulbars letter to Farya in which Ghulbar confesses everything. In the scene where Murad confronts Ayse he says something like I don’t see you as the mother of my children but as a traitor to my dynasty
I think he was upset about all of them, but the death of Ahmed was the most crushing at that moment since Ahmed was Ahmed's last remaining prince at that time.
Did you miss the part after he said "my son" where he repeated Hanzades name and dragged her body into his arms with her brother?
@@S.D._777_ Exactly right. Murad clearly loved all of his children a great deal
When one is not embraced by the village they shall burn it to the ground to feel it's warmth.
Fitting I'd say, he was a bad husband so he didn't deserve those kids.... Usually kings never do.
But Murad isn't married to Ayse. She is his chief consort in the harem. From what we see he's actually a good father.
The more I learn about any royalty, the less I envy any of them.
The photography, the songs, the people, the story
Beautiful
Let that be a lesson. Be careful how you treat “your” loved ones.
Dude, she's gorgeous, Ayse Sultana. Sad she's gone.
A woman can give life and take it away, as cruel as Ayse was to take the lives of her children, the fate that could have potentially awaited them after her execution could have been far worse. Ayse would not only have her life taken away, but everything Murad loved too.
Your saying that if a woman gives birth, she can also kill her kids? That's insane.
Her son is 100% dead no matter what. She made absolutely the right choice. You don’t sit around waiting for your masters to kill uou. You seize the freedom of death with both hands.
Sorry no, Ayse didn't take away everything Murad loved. For example, Ayse didn't take away Bayezid, Geverhan, Silahatar, Farya, Kosem, Ibrahim, Atike or his twin baby princes with Farya. Gulbahar & Sinan are far more responsible for taking away the people Murad loves than Ayse. And G&S basically manipulated Ayse into poisoning herself & her childreb
@@TushinskyVorIIAyse took away Murad's most desired/loved thing: his legacy.
By taking her son from him, she made him an heirless sultan. He had sons with Farya after this, but they died too. Ayse's children were all healthy by all appearance, if she had not done what she did, Murad's legacy would've survived.
He gets what he deserved
Motherless children do not survive in the harem. She did what she had to do.
Ayse sultana’s letter are the most heart-wrenching
Be very careful about what you believe in letters in the MC/MCK franchise. Sultan Suleiyman executed his beloved oldest son Prince Mustafa because of a fraudulent letter. Then he lost another beloved son Chahangir who died of a broken heart because he couldn’t save Mustafa.
Ayse's letter was probably secretly penned by Rustem Pasha and sealed by a seal that Mirimmah Sultan stole
why am I only seeing this?! anyway, this is refreshing because most Queen consorts wanted to put their children on the throne as the revenge to their husbands, the King. But she, Sultana, took her children with her in death, not for revenge, but to save them from their father. This is wrong yet, I've never seen death as meaningful as this.
Also I realized one thing women have always had the power to take things that they gave because they're the one who gave it voluntarily. a meaning for 'you can have my body but never my heart'
She did it to spite Murad. She murdered her own children. There is no justifying it.
@@AS-yz2izIt was wrong ofc but consider this, in her time there was no chance she could divorce/separate, live alone peacefully, or take her children or live in peace with them without being labelled an outcast / 'shamefully divorced woman' which nobody would want to associate with nevermind allow her to work for them - that was their system back then, it was their society's expectations so it would be futile to argue with it using modern standards. You seem to also forget that Murad planned to have the mother of his children who had recently given birth MURDERED as seen in the execution order (which is not excusable either)...A person like Murad who is all too willing to take a life - what makes you think he wouldn't do it AGAIN ? To use & abuse others not limited to his other wives but also other kids in future? There is such a thing as past behaviour being a good PREDICTOR /indicator of future behaviour, in fact, prison inmates commonly show a HIGH rate of RE-OFFENDING ...
Not to mention the physiological (this includes physical) changes that occur to a woman after giving birth are most pronounced within the first 2 years since the baby is constantly taking nutrients & minerals from the mother's body to grow during her pregnancy. Instead of being grateful for having another child who was safe and healthy he wanted to get rid of the one who created the life within her body. What does this say about him as a person? Also, the death rate for women giving birth used to be much higher e.g. for a while it was a 1/40 maternal mortality rate (!) since there was no infection control, no epidural & generally a very rudimentary understanding of medicine even in the wealthier families of the later Ottoman empire.
@@angelp4724 I understand that, but none of it justifies Ayse killing her children. None of us knows what the future holds.
As for Murad having Ayse executed, one could argue that that was actually a moral decision. We forget, because it's not in this clip, that by stealing Kosem's seal, she helped send Murad's best men to their death when the ship burned, and that was also responsible for half of Istanbul burning to the ground and hundreds of people losing their lives. In addition to causing Fahriye to miscarry, Ayse was responsible for a lot of horror. People get the death penalty for much less.
Regardless, Ayse was guilty of crimes, and her children were not. It's not up to a mother to decide when her children should die. And, even if she had other reasons (none of which could be valid), the main reason she did it was to spite Murad.
@@angelp4724I totally agree with you! I don't understand people who keep backing up murad (and far ya, ugh I don't like her), Ayse could very much have postpartum depression with what she faced during pregnancy and after birth. all in all, I think throughout the story, Murad is the ones, that always make bad decisions, trust the wrong people, love the wrong people etc. that's why he suffers to the end
@@radziahradzi Ayse does a lot of really evil things before giving birth as well.
Poor Ayse, I feel s bad for her.
She deserved it by her actions. Need to be able to answer for what you do. Everyrhing has a pricw
Her children were pawns. So she exacted the playing field and left this cruel earth with her beautiful children. Forever at peace.
@@MrA1R1S She was put in a desperate situation.
@@Ch50304 no excuses for that what she did to her children. Mustafa killer Hürrem was in such situations lots of times but she never killed her children.
That's fine. Although I have to ask if you also feel bad for all of Ayse's innocent victims?
This show how a destructive man can absolutely treat you like garbage even if you put you're soul into there feet. There is no guarantee that they will even treat you like human beings. They will throw you like a garbage as soon as they're done using them😢
This is true fo back in the days now it's not true anymore
@@Afsara-rf5kb ya nice joke. Look if you bring law into it then let me remind you that there are still countries where women have zero rights on there life. It's extremely poor of men to feel sorry for themselves when laws are against them while they're quite happy where the laws are in there favor in 2024. There are places where if husband dies then wife doesn't have any right on his property and male members of husband family can claim it. And in order to survive they have to obey them. Or there are countries where they openly kidnapped women and forced them to marry and since they come from a society where if women enter any men house even though they're victims they're not acceptable in there own homes and have to marry there abusers or kidnappers. There is no denying in that in countries where women are getting hands on law are taking advantage of it and we need to stand with it in order to protect the society but this claim that it's a bullcrap show the ignorance of men in society.
@@Afsara-rf5kb Its still true today
The children are so beautfiul!!! It made me tear up. What's the name of the song when Murad discovers his children were gone? Its such a soulful song.
Var Git Ölüm (Go away death) Sung by - Aytekin Ataş
@@juicyfruit382 Thank you sooooo much!
@@juicyfruit382thx!! Turkish songs have soo much emotions, like the song „nenni balam“ i think its called
@@juicyfruit382thank you! I now have this song on my Spotify playlist.
In the end he only cared for his son, lol that's so f*cked up
That's just not so. He loved all of them. He grieves for Hanzade in this scene as well & he laments what happens to Ayse later. Murad always loved Ayse - although he loved Farya more. Ayse was Murad's first love. Murad is probably meant to be about 21 years old at this stage - so he probably met Ayse when they were about 13 or 14 given how old their children are
He 1000% deserved no less, sad only in death did she win. 😢
Sorry, but you can't really say this is a win for Ayse. Where do you think Ayse will be going after doing this? And Ayse has many other innocent victims who lost their lives because of her, that she will have to account for. At least Gulbahar was motivated to do what she did by her love for her son Bayezid
Ahmed and Hanzade is very beautiful.....death seen is vey sad.....
EVERYBODY IS BEAUTIFUL, EQUALLY BEAUTIFUL
BEAUTY LIES IN THE EYES OF BEHOLDER
Imagine romanticising a relationship between a slave who was kidnapped and converted and then put in house arrest with her master.
Softy
I’d hardly call it romanticized since she kills herself at the end and pretty sure none of the viewers feel bad for the guy
Really, Ayse sultan (wife of sultan Murad Khan iv of Ottoman Empire) was died in 1680 during the reign of sultan Mehmed iv of Ottoman Empire and not committed suicide along with her children as shown in this series 🇹🇷!
Eh makes it more dramatic.
The whole plot with Fahrya and Ayse is pure fiction. But it' s just a show, meant for entertainment, not education.
@fabiansaah6482 exactly, it's a show to catch the audiences attention, not be like the history channel.
The Crown : The Ottoman Empire.
(For those who prefer soap operas over documentaries).
But that poor baby is going to be alone but in this situation it was the only way to escape
The baby does much better than you think, and infinitely better than the 2 children that Ayse murders here.
Either you die as an Ayse or live long enough to see yourself become a Mahidevran - Sumbul agha
Mahideverhan would never have murdered her own son. Neither would any of the other sultanas in the franchise, well except Kosem of course
@@CadwallonMawrthat's true but I think even if Mahidevran would've died earlier Mustafa would have many people who would support him. Like Valide , Hatice , Ibrahim. Mustafa still had them and also he had Mahidevran. But Ayse didn't have that support for her son . Mustafa however had everyone's support Still he couldn't succeed to the throne and it's main reason I think Hurrem became Suleiman's more favourite. Ayse understood that from the past that all that matters in the end is you have to have the sultan in your side. If you don't have him nothing will help you in the end. And in these games of power your son will eventually die no matter what. So whatever Ayse did maybe she was worried about her son's future ,that it might be worse than imagination. And he'll eventually die or get executed in the end. this is why she better chose her son to die now , without facing any of those traumas and sorrows. It's good she did it. Murad broke her heart she broke his too. A good revenge.
@@saaymaaroshni6324 Agree with a lot of that. Although Mustafa was a always a great threat to Hurrem's sons, partly because he was the eldest prince & obvious heir & partly because of his massive popularity with the people, the janissaries, 2 of his own brothers & the dynasty sultanas etc. And that played a big part in Mustafa's downfall. Whereas Ahmed (Ayse's son) wasn't the eldest prince or obvious heir - that was Bayezid first, then Kasim, then Ibrahim, then Ahmed. And it was far too early to know if Ahmed would ever have become a threat to the other princes. Also Kosem would have protected Ahmed, at least until he became an adult. So I don't think we can know what would have happened to Ahmed. But it wasn't really Ayse's call to make anyway. I think she only did it to hurt Murad, not to protect her children. Hence, if we call a spade a spade, what Ayse did appears to just be cold blooded murder.
@@CadwallonMawr kosem didnt kill her children, its fiction. The only people who did kill their children were sultans not the sultanas
@@CadwallonMawr in real history murad had caged and killed all his brothers sparing Ibrahim causing him to become a madman. Bayezid and kasim were probably dead
The poignant reminder, women if they love their man will grow what ever he gives her, a house becomes a home, food becomes a meal, love creates warmth and acknowledgement in the world, sperm becomes a child to love and a family in this world - men honour this ability by providing and protecting this wonderful magic of life and love. Together they are one. The sultan forgot the mother of his children loved the man behind the throne and shared her mind, body and love with him blossoming into children to expand their love. She loved her children enough that if their father would not honour that love, that gift , she had the will to match his play, the ultimate move - to take it all away, to leave him reflecting on the empty space that once was filled with warmth and love. Starting again is hard when the loss is hard to bare. The surviving child will either be cherished beyond what she would have been or she will be constantly reminded by all that her mother murdered her siblings. In all likelihood she will feel the burning question of why - and then either the lost of love that she was left behind or hatred towards her father for causing such a checkmate move by her mother. Either way - this lady if she survives will know the strength of the family tree she is born and her mother was made of strength she can be proud of if sad about at the same time. Either way \i would not want to be the woman who told her that she was marked for death - I suspect she would live long enough to reflect on her move against the children's mother. She will no doubt be next to be executed as the Sultan is unlikely to kill his own mother letting the children see their mother one last time. So that leaves the other lover of the sultan to take the full impact of his grief and anger. So as the bearer of his children said - he destroys everything he loves will play out as she said in the note. Plus the son and mother relationship will forever be soured against all future grandchildren. The Sultans world has just completely collapsed because he did not value what the universe and love gave him freely. Moral message to be learnt for sure.
Wow, what a great review.
Who would have thought of such from just watching a mere movie.
Bravo!
As much as I dislike Ayse, but this was very sad. This was the point I really hate Farya 😢
wow... this showed up randomly in my feed and now I'm just spellbound. I'll have to watch this entire series.
How cruel was of him to seperate her children .....Made her right decision
That is the number one most baddass thing I’ve ever seen a woman do in a film!
You think her killing herself and her children is badass?? You need help
@@Afsara-rf5kb in todays society ppl abort children to ‘save’ them from an awful life. Back then it was even worse.
@@Afsara-rf5kb she hurt him as deeply as he hurt her. Men feel there are no consequences to their evil.
@@Mira-gu6we I know but killing her children wasn't the answer the children were innocent and Aysha isn't an angel herself don't you not why she was being punished in the first place because she is the reason fariya lost her child
@@Afsara-rf5kb was ayse his wife by will?? Did he not abduct her and put her in harem by force?? Did he ask her permission when he brought the other woman? He gave her the death sentence. Men sleep around and think there are no consequences. He mistreated her, she left with all she gave him. Those babies would have ended up dead without their mums protection anyway.
I understand this woman.
Sorry but I find that very hard to believe.
Too pain it really touched my heart into imotional 😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I didn't like Ayse in the drama cause she was a troublemaker. But now i understand her pain. She was brought into the picture by force and making her the Sultan's favourite was part of Kosem's plan. She never really had any power. She felt extremely threatened when Farya walked in. But its not Farya's fault. She had no plan to be a concubine. She was a warrior princess. When she was wronged, it was reasonable she lashed out.
Their is nothing as worse as losing a family, your heir at that period. Maybe you can find another partner but the heir.. Its a strong pain.
Patriarchy was alive and well in that era, unfortunately. Still is.
Farye is the reason he lost his son and heir. And his daughter
Murad is a stupid man
I am glad, I don't like Ayse.
@@jonmunoz2772farya is not real plz understand murad loved ayse
Farya didn't kill Murad's children, Ayse, and ONLY Ayse, did.
@@Maria-co9eg but is not réal raya not real plz understant
None of this really makes sense. Kosem knows that people who betray the dynasty must be punished by death no matter who they are (she tells Bayezid that earlier). Yet Kosem still orders that Ayse can see her children when she knows Ayse betrayed the dynasty. Why would Murad have set up this overcooked convoluted arrangement to have Ayse executed when she leaves the city - when he could have just sent the executioners in the dead of night? And why would Murad have lied to Kosem & Farya about the sentence? Also I can't help but think it was cruel of Murad to lie to Ayse about the true sentence. She deserved to know in advance to prepare herself to be ready when the time came.
Because Murad was cruel to her (Ayse), she decided to return the cruelty 1000x by murdering his heirs.
Bad writing. This is pure fiction, they didn't care about logic, just about drama.
@@fabiansaah6482 Yes, agreed. Very unfortunate.
Because he was a coward and did not want to look her in the eyes when the sentence was applied, also would give the children the illusion that their mother did not wanted them anymore because she would never be able to contact them ( logic)
When you seek to destroy someone, you don't destroy them, you destroy what they love the most.
He placed his children above even Farye. Goes to show you drive someone to a certain point they will do anything to retaliate.
Какая она красивая и дети. Фильм просто суров
No man has ever been worth of life.
Farya your end is coming!!! Its close. Valide sultan will do what is necessary.
Oh stop being so melodramatic.
@@Maria-co9eg ? Why
Oh pkz 🙄🤣 Farya is the character from this season who had some integrity & actually obeyed Murad. Everybody else just schemed behind his back 24/7.
@@KabbalahSherry farya was not good at all
@@ΔημΣΚ-ο7η what did she do
The original Muhteşem yüzyıl had it's issues but atleast kept all major historical events accurate and the fiction it threw in was either small or didn't interfere with main history.
I know this is not a historic documentary and is free to the creative liberties of its writers/directors but MY:Kösem straight up insulted the memory of the great Sultan Murad IV, Farya's character is entirely fictional and of all his concubines, Ayşe sultan was Sultan Murad IV's favorite till his dying breath in 1640, Şehzade Ahmet passed away when he was like 2 years old and both Ayşe and Hanzade passed away 40 years later during the reign of Murad's great-nephew, Avcı Sultan Mehmet IV in 1680, just 3 years before the disastrous 2nd siege of Vienna.
Ayse they can never make me hate you 😭
😮 It's like we are just all pawns in a game. God help us.
How very sad. But he deserved it.
Murad certainly made a mess of this execution. Yes, Ayse's crimes cost thousands of lives in the great fire, the life of Murad's unborn baby & left Murad's wife unable to have children. But how could Murad have answered Ahmed & Hanzade when they ask about their mother later? So gaoling her in Maiden tower would have been smarter. And why didn't Murad tell his mother & his wife the real sentence & order them to keep it secret - particularly as his wife was Ayse's main victim & his mother was keeping Ayse & the children separated? Also, why was it necessary to have Ayse executed away from the palace when Murad could just have sent executioners at night? Murad would also know that rival sultanas/favourites often have a final confrontation after a feud. Sometimes to gloat like Hurrem did with Firuze, or to concede defeat & pass the baton like Safiye did with Kosem, or to seek forgiveness like Hurrem did with Mahideverhan. Even Ayse herself went to confront Farya in the dungeon (after the pig head incident) when she thought Farya was about to be executed. Murad also knows how fiery & volatile Farya can be & how devastated she is by what Ayse did to her. So Murad should have realised that Farya might try to confront Ayse & taken steps to prevent it.
but there was still a child left alone without a mother. The baby that she have 😢
That’s what I’m thinking but no one seems to talk about that one in the comments.
The baby was already being sent to a foster mother, never knowing her birth mother. Whether the mother and siblings lived or not.
As sad as that scene is, I keep trying not to laugh for about 30 seconds of the music. Starting at 19:33 it sounds like a bunch of those rubber chickens being squeezed.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Anyone knows the background soundtrack name when Ayese sultan is dead and murad comes in the room…?
I hate the scenes are deleted for International version. Very bad decision
Is there deleted scenes in MC to? If so is that the reason why sometimes we don't understand parts of what's going on
he didn't understand even when he fell off his horse and touched the ground like a pauper.....
first Ayshe, mother of his children, women who he promised love
next Farya, somone who he promised love too
next Gevherhan ,sister who he stole love ....shame
Farya and Atike were very annoying
So much lies in this drama ayse lived after murad 40 year
Its not documentary, just a series with historical tint
kosem would have never let her power go. she loved power more than anything.
Well, in real there wasn't any farya in sultan murad's harem..as it has been written in historical evidences, ayse was the most favorite concubine of murad till her death...
What episode is this?
46
46!!!!! How many episodes, total!?
139 episodes all@@GoogleUser-qz5zv
Thank god. I was waiting for this to happen
Farya is a viper.
No sorry this is all Gulbahar & Sinan's work. They manipulated & provoked Ayse every step of the way to this point. It is all part of their plan. Ayse & her children are just the first of the dominoes that G&S topple on their way to bringing down Kosem & Murad. Without G&S, Ayse would have still been a valued member of the imperial family, Murad's chief consort and the mother of a prince - because she would never have arranged the attack on Farya or stolen Kosem's seal. Ayse should have listened to Narin & never trusted Gulbahar.
Is this a series called magnificent century?
I love this song 😢. Don't know what is this song about
Please what episode is this
Wich episode??
46 I think
Good this happened. Anyway, I dislike both Ayșe and Farya, too many people died because of them.
Welcome to the harem
Nobody died because of Farya except for the people she killed in self defence or in combat. Thousands died because of Ayse including her own 2 children who she murdered & Farya’’s baby who she also had killed
Can see why you think that but I think Gulbahar & Sinan are much more to blame. They stoked Ayse's insecurities & jealousies from the start. Then they manipulated Ayse into her worst actions against Farya which cost Farya her baby & nearly killed her. Then Gulbahar blackmailed Ayse into stealing Kosem's seal which caused the great fire & thousands of deaths. Then Gulbahar wrote to Farya divulging all of Ayse's crimes. So Gulbahar & Sinan have very big parts in this.
@CadwallonMawr I don't consider killing her kids a bad thing since it's known that children don't survive long in the harem without a mother figure. There was always a possibility that someone else would take them in, but it was low and personally not something I would've risked just because of the *chance* that someone might step in for me.
@@bluebay1031 But Aye's baby survived the show
Отца вторая жена , разрушила наш мир , счастье нашей матери . Жаль что мы также не ушли в мир иной . Вторая жена ад и яд . Мы потеряли отца 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Farya is the most annoying character after Nurbanu
he is the one to blame
Sorry, not really. Sinan & Gulbahar the traitors are more to blame. The pulled the strings & made Ayse do all the terrible things that led up to this, then Gulbahar confessed what Ayse had done. Ayse should have listened to her maid Narin & not trusted Gulbahar
FOr a NEW SIDE CHICK. STILL WAS HANGED. HAHAHA
Not so. Strangled not hanged. Like many of the best noble characters in MC/MCK - eg Sheyzade Mustafa (Mahideverhan's son), Sheyzade Bayezid (Hurrem's son), Sultan Osman, Sheyzade Mehmed (Kosem's son), Ibrahim Pargali, Ahmed Pasha, Abaza Mehmed Pasha & of course Kosem herself. Although Kosem's death was a lot more demeaning & undignified than the rest.
That’s a pretty unusual definition of sidechick given Murad married her against his mothers wishes, he Executed 100s of people because of the attack on her, she has 2 princes for the dynasty & she becomes rue presumptive next Valide Sultan. Just saying
If only Ayse did not cause Farya's child to die then things would have been different.
Exactly right. They may have allied against Sanavber in that case & possibly even against Kosem eventually
Please make sure you understand that these dramas aren’t historically 100% accurate. So Irl there was no Farya and Murad was not actually a tyrant.
It’s so sad in that time all you do is seat in your chamber. Wait to see your children if you even can. Just sad times.
What about the baby?????
The baby Kaya survives the show when Atike takes her away
Wat abt the third baby?
Ayşe wanted to kill Kaya too, but only Ahmed and Hanzade came to her.
Ayse’s baby Kaya is loved & protected by everyone & she survives the show. Atike takes her with her when she leaves the palace for ever after Kosem murders Ibrahim
Sadly this situation still happens to some 'royal' families, the mother unable to meet their own children until the children reach age 18+😢
Why everyone has some poison in their chamber?
Because they are all snakes and know the others are as well. They were probably keeping it to kill someone else.
Because death is the final escape.
murad & kosem deserve this end
Does anyone know the name of the song that starts playing at 20:05?
Murad got everything he deserved ...played with lives of many ...
In History Sultan Aisha lived 63 years, and Sultan Murad loved only her and was only with her 😊
Sorry, Murad also had a second Haseki (Semsisah Sultan probably) & he fathered about 25 children.
"No one will chase you."
Farya didn't necessarily win. That vicious cycle of revenge eventually catches up to everyone involved.
Farya wasn't trying to win. She wanted justice because Ayse murdered her unborn baby.
What did Ayse do so bad to this
She killed a woman's baby and made her barren. I think it was the woman who told her she was going to be killed. There might be more but I know that was a big one
Ayse also stole Kosem’s seal 9 gave it to Ghulbahar which caused the great fire of Istanbul & burnt half the capital & killed thousands of innocent people. Ayse stole the seal for Ghulbahar in exchange for Ghulbahar silencing the people who could identify Ayse as the person who arranged the attack on Farya which killed Fayas baby & left her unable to have children, Finally she tried to poison Ghulbahar to silence her which backfires when Ghulbahar writes to Farya confessing everything
Shes beautiful she did ❤
I was minding my own business when this popped up on my feed and now I too have to back track. What is the name of this show?
Still world is not ready to see why polygamy is so dangerous. The only thing in Islam I seriously object.
These thing is not related to islam its actually a man nature even in other religions one legal wife but many extra marital affairs and sexual relations,islam also instructed to give them equal rights but here in dynasities its a game for thrones only
@@priyapari7789 there is always influence of culture of the land. But I don't think polygamy or polyandry can be a sign of any civilised society. It is against human nature.Monogamy is according to the nature of mankind.
There are some Chinese shows about palace / harem dramas where similar themes play out
Song's name please, the song at the end of this part please someone tell me its name
Мать и сын друг друга стоят. Мурад и Кесем , две анаконды правители . 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Hello everyone, I am from Uzbekistan. On behalf of all Uzbeks, I send greetings to the Turkish and American peoples. Enjoy the movie. 😊❤
What ends up happening to the baby?
Her dress is so gorgeous
Yes, but its the same one that she always wears
Beautiful song ❤
She thought death was the only way to protect her children
Best decision 😢
What did ayse do?
It’s a pretty long list but the worst crimes are arranging the attack on Farya which killed Farya’s unborn baby, almost killled & left her unable to have children and then betraying Kosem by stealing her seal & giving it to Ghulbahar which caused the great fire of Istanbul which burnt down most of the capital & killed thousands of innocent people & then she tries to poison Ghulbahar to silence her.
There’s no greater rage than a woman scorned
Murad.what you done mother forgetting what he has done
Title please