Who Would Canonically Win? - Incineroar vs Wolf O'Donnell
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- Who would win in a fight between Incineroar from Pokemon and Wolf O'Donnell, the leader of StarWolf from the Star Fox franchise? Today we break down all of their abilities and have an animated battle to figure out that answer. Smash Bracket is an animated Vs Battle series created by InkThinks dedicated to answering the question... Who is canonically the strongest character in Super Smash Bros History?
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Voice Talent:
Announcer voiced by: Levi Smith
Wolf voiced by: @Anerdymous
Incineroar voiced by: RedPeacock
Music: Apex Predator by @SkyeTV22
"Next Time on Smash Bracket" Graphic Development by: Sonix / @sonix-artmore5548
I really like this one, though i do have a piece of criticism to make here: It's mostly about the sprites. I find that they're too low quality personally. You couldn't make out some of their parts like their eyes or, for example, where limbs and tail end. I don't know how much more complex it would've been, but it would've helped the quality of the animation.
And before you ask, yes, i know sprites are supposed to look all "pixel-y".
At least there were sprites. Those were custom sprites for both of them!
They explained it’s because of budget in the live stream that just happened
I had problems with the sound mixing. The voices should have been turned up a little, especially for the announcer. Sometimes I practically had to guess what they are saying.
Inceneroar definitely shouldve started the fight with embargo. Would’ve made things a lot tougher for Wolf. I mean, he’d still destroy Inceneroar but still
Way to spoil the ending mr top comment
@@MemeFever-p8oit’s the top comment so it still appears, even if you don’t go to the comments
Honestly it was kinda unfair to let wolf use his ship and all his guns, Incineroar is basically an animal, and if animals were a pokemon type, guns would be super effective.
Super fun episode guys great job. Each fighter really gave it their all and I loved how you went into detail about all of their great arsenal and move sets. I forget how many moves the average Pokémon has access too. My favourite part of the fight Is when Wolf Throws all his guns and starts just blasting with all of them one after another. From one animated to another that was great.
No idea how you can do game and watch next time though. does he even have any feat? XD Can't wait to see it
Scout remember me?
Thank you so much! And I will say the next episode has by far been the most challenging to write and choreograph haha
Game and watch will be treated like the way he is on SSBU, a composite version of all the jobs.
hi Scout i watched your videos
idk if ring fit adventure will be used or just the wii version portrayed in ssbu
The sprite team is always great. Wolfs voice acting was inconsistent in quality, and the part where incin signed an autograph felt really out of nowhere and sorta killed the pacing of that segment, but other than that, no complaints on my end. Great episode, keep up the good work.
The voice acting sucked bad in both ends. It sounded horrible
@@ninjabobbob8090 Shut up
@@ninjabobbob8090 I think Incineroar did good all things considered. Wolf definitely needs some work, though. Probably some of the worst voice acting on the channel
Really curious how the next one is gonna go, considering neither opponent has any real combat experience.
Game and Watch is a composite of all his console games, so he's an amalgamation of several different creatures and people.
@@caltontherobot7768 Yeah, I know that. But very few Game & Watch games feature any direct combat.
@@Kirbman Well, he does have games where he’s fighting in wars and where fights off monsters as Link.
@@jaxonjaxon1069 Yeah, that's true. I know Game & Watch will most likely win, since he has at least something. The question is how long he will actually last in the bracket though.
Incinaroar had a chance to win if he used embargo
I seriously appreciate all of the hard work it takes to look up all of the information needed for the type of fight they want to do. The rules they set in place, and what they're building. You guys work hard and just to let you know, it's truly appreciated. 😁
I'm curious how the next fight will go. I mean, G&W is literally a two-dimensional being of infinite thinness, so technically he'd have to hit at strange angles in order to just not go through WFT.
Or ya know, we can just suspend our disbelief and assume that both fighters operate off the rules or three dimensions, meaning all attacks can hit.
In smash he is 3D, just with a 2d shader
@@canned3880 Yes, but that's because it's easier to have the model with 3D animations instead of having to make a massive high res sprite sheet that would take up an insane amount of storage. And besides, he's still technically 2D.
@@ARDIZsq Mach racer assist trophy be like. Also game and watch wouldn't need a sprite sheet, he would just need to have the smallest possibly unit for width
This is kind of free for Game and Watch. He carries all sorts of gizmos, Wii Fit Trainer is just a fitness trainer. Fit, but can't stand boiling oil or penetrate a diving helmet
If he is treated as 2D, that could be very dangerous for a 3D opponent. Infinite thinness also means infinite sharpness. He could walk right through something (or someone) and it'd have a gash through it (albeit an infinitely thin one), or be put in half entirely if it's smaller than him.
I laughed way too hard at "gun is no longer effective "
Poor incineroar. We all knew it was coming.
Although, the animation was astounding. Even though I knew that there was no way my boy incineroar was gonna win, the battle was wild and unpredictable until the end.
Definitely.
The fight was cool, but the animation honestly looked SUPER unfinished in some places
I am so happy that Wolf won. (I knew he logically would but with this channel, I take nothing for granted.) Star Fox is really underrated and Star Fox Zero is a masterpiece.
2:40 - 3:40 and 15:55 ...somebody wanna explain to me why Fox's stats vs Sonic were so wonky in comparison to Wolf's? Keep in mind Fox once fought 1v4 against all of
Star Wolf and won...
Just another comment I had to add, it was a really cool touch that wolf was basically juggling three different heavy duty weapons and firing them as well. If anything if he ever decided to quit being a professional mercenary, he could become a professional Street juggler of deadly skill, in space LOL. That was clever and very fun to watch.
The wolf gun spin definitely reminded me of revolver ocelot's same trick in mgs3. Great animation and I can't wait for the next time!
You know me so well
Something that needs to be talked about is Star Fox villains have always been universal level threats...stated in the comic Fox saved the universe, stated in the manual from Assault the Aparoids were a universal threat, and in Adventures the Krazoa could control dark matter which according to science makes up more than 80% of the universe (also originally in Dinosaur Planet they were universal)
Man star fox characters are super underrated in vs-debatting.
People should use them more for debates, hopefully smash bracket is the gateway for this
@@thegreatestever913interesting 🤔
I really wish they would make more out of the Star Fox series. I thought it was pretty good as a kid.
Do you have a Wii U? If you do, I highly recommend you to play Star Fox Zero because it is basically a modern Star Fox game. The game got a lot of backlash but I think it is really amazing.
The new formating in the results is a huge improvement, absolutely love it.
Finally got around to being able to watch this one, great job guys! Really fun watch
Also next time is going to be very interesting to say the least
That episode looked pretty good. I love how the analysis looks post fight. Really goes in-depth pretty well
This one was fun. I enjoyed it. The graphic design during the analysis was good, and the analysis was thorough. Looked like there was a lot of spritework, especially for Wolf and his arsenal.
I would suggest not letting the Kirby gags become more than quick little easter eggs - this one cut into the battle's pacing a bit when both characters just started goofing off.
Not a critique, just something I might have missed - was there a reason given why embargo wasn't an effective strategy against Wolf's weaponry and ship? Just how much faster Wolf and the Wolfen are? It was brought up in the analysis, so I was curious whether it was relevant.
I assume that the logic of Wolf blitzing Incineroar before he could use Toxic applies to Wolf as well.
There were custom sprites for Wolf, his weapons and Wolfen II, and Incineroar!
This is definitely going to be a fight made with 'blazing' passion that I will be happy to 'wolf' it down
Great video, I do think that characters with ranged attacks and vehicles tend to have the upper hand against melee and hand to hand combatants, since they they deal damage without the risk of being counterattacked.
Finally! Been waiting for ages!
Edit: Not the result I was wanting, but it was exactly what I expected.
14:33 best shot of the animation, it’s so fluid and really makes it a very fast paced episode 10/10
I really love the new layout in the analysis and post analysis, And that battle was intense especially the ending!
“Your bombs wonts hurt me, I resist fire-type attacks”
“Explosion is a normal type move”
“._.”
Alternate ending: After wolf shoots Mario Incinaroar buys wolf the big drink and they become buddies
I really love the way you guys include Pokémon moves into the fights
I am impressed Incineroar held on so long. Heck, I expected the pocket monster to destroy or causes some error to jam and prevent Wolf's ship from flying.
Finally, it's here. RUclips sucks so I couldn't watch it live but still quite the episode we have here.
For the analysis they are pretty good, covering very well Wolf and going on the important stuff for Incineroar. It's good finally having solid calculations and feats for Star Fox but, and this is a issue with various other episodes, the analysis feels really one-sided. I know there are many more Star Fox games than Pokémon games with Incineroar, but still it doesn't feel right. But information on sidebars and cut some less important stuff, but that's just me nitpicking.
The fight, it was great. Great voice acting for Wolf, nice music, Dan gets destroyed and that's hilarious, good use of Wolf's weapons and really good custom sprites. But there are some flaws: there's too much puppet animation, which looks quite weird in some shots, the Wolfen sprite is way too small and if there's time i suggest you doing new more detailed sprites for the ships, and Incineroar doesn't even use Throat Chop and very little of Darkest Lariat, his signature moves. Still great animation, keep the amazing work.
Post-analysis' new format is great and let's the viewer compare side-by-side the stats and reaaly slick design too.
Overall, great work!
Next time is weird, I don't know how the hell are you going to analyse this guys and can't wait to see Wii Fit getting destroyed by a torch of a steriotypical native american.
Entertaining video but I feel Wolf's character was misrepresented. He's more of a serious stoic kinda character similar to Fox and tries to kill as quickly as possible while in here he was a talkative drunk 💀, good video nevertheless but could've been more action packed without the many cameos and talking 💯
Animation was pretty good, has a lot of intense fast pace action, but some bits do look a little odd. Audio was pretty much shot all to hell though, since I can't understand them half the time. And results? Can't say if I agree or disagree here, cause research here sometimes tends to be... Ehhhh....
Overall: Good episode, but not as good as others, like Link vs Ridley.
Why are star fox characters so op
( Edit ) when wolf said time to bring in the Calvary I would have loved it if tracer appears for no resson
Cuz the franchise is all about giving them the best of the best
14:16 “Ooh, I hope this building is readily insured!” caught me off guard.
The animations for game and watch are gonna be amazing 😂
Not sure what’s gonna happen next time but I look forward to it
Wolf may win but he'll never have the chad energy of Incineroar
Also, dang, one of my favorite characters to play (and probably my secondary) vs. my Starter Pokémon in Moon (and possibly one of my favorites if not my outright favorite when it comes to starter evolution).
A friend who also likes Versus videos actually accidentally spoiled this one for me but I think I'd be a little sad no matter the outcome lol. Hope it doesn't end in a death.
:(
(Tbf what did I expect from Wolf lol)
Also, in a bizarre twist of fate, this video in turn spoiled me on Falco vs. Captain Falcon lmao
you know you're strong when your opponent puts some dirt in your eye and you still win
You're in PETA's blacklist now, good luck👍
Ohhhhhhh
Wolf O'Donnell had a farm, E-I-E-I-O!
Therapist: Incinaroar with a gun isn't real, they can't hurt you.
Incinaroar with a gun: 14:21
Try Bill Cipher (From Gravity Fall) VS The Collector (From The Owl House) It will be really interesting because Bill is pretty much invincible, and I think the Collector is immortal, too. It would be fun and very nice to see who the winner is.
This was SUPER good, wow. The voice acting was pretty much spot on between all three roles, the animation was super dynamic and fluid for the sprites, and the writing was good too. It’s been said many times but Smash Bracket/Crossover Colosseum have come a super long way and I have no doubt they will continue to, super looking forward to it
Thank you so much!
at least give my boy wolf his big drink- he traveled across the galaxy to get it!
Maybe I just didn't pay attention last time, but the analysis graphics look pretty good. Nice seeing the craft being honed
I've been waiting for this for a while! First off, great voices and great animation! The next fight also looks to be interesting, and the analysis was good as well. Looking at the main Cannon however, it said SF NES, was that supposed to actually say SF SNES? Unless of course I'm just missing out on some information lol always possible.
I would definitely love to know more about that club Nintendo Canon mentioned in that as well I'd love to look it up. Now on to my actual thoughts on the fight other than the fact that it was flipping awesome!
Like you said the verses mode is a training room, I believe it's been stated in manuals or guides before and even in a Nintendo power magazine at one point which is awesome. Though in my personal opinion I do think the whole being able to tank smart bombs and stuff is more or less game mechanics for fairness cuz in that case Fox wouldn't have actually had to worry too much about avoiding that aparoid blast that destroyed his assault model our wing as much.
And it was awesome Fox and wolf work together to take down the approach home world, though we don't know where exactly they went when they disappeared in those tunnels, maybe they got out of there before the explosion? Cuz that was a planetary explosion at the core. It is true that the demon sniper can be blocked by barrier, but it can also take out a barrier in one shot at least according to the versus mode. Protect seems to be more or less like a more focused shield and a barrier is a lesser defensive but all around defense from what I've noticed in Media.
I definitely knew the wolf and was going to be involved whether it was my original prediction of being near the end of the fight and wolf popping out for a finishing blow, or just absolute bombardment of powerful lasers and such. Either way wolf was brutal, as to be expected, but I'm glad this fluffy devastator of mercenary style Doom is able to move on to the next round. Makes me wonder who's going to fight next.
All in all you guys did a marvelous job at covering this epic mercenario questionable morality LOL. But in the end we all know wolf is awesome and has some good in him.
At least the bar scene was there as originally thought LOL. All in all incinivar put up a good fight but with the overwhelming power and experience it's a wolf, as well as his dirty fighting, he managed to extinguish the firecat of the wrestling world.
Smash bracket, epic job and I look forward to a future Star Fox related fights keep up the epic work. God bless and remember to keep on barrel rolling! 🐺
(Also would it be all right if you told me where you found that cool screenshot at timestamp 3:06? I don't know it's been awhile since I've checked but I don't know if that was from the 64 guide or somewhere else. As he know I just want to find out all this stuff and keep it for archival purposes.)
Thanks for the comment! To answer your questions/comments:
- Ahh yes SNES is correct. That was a typo on my part. The earliest canon appearance of Star Fox was in the Nintendo Power Comic, which according to the author was where they built out the world/story of star fox generally and it started production before the game itself. Shortly after that was the SNES Star Fox.
- The Club Nintendo one is an interesting case! Club Nintendo is the European equivalent of Nintendo Power. Each issue had a comic and most of them were totally nonsensical and not canon at all. Club Nintendo would just let random people in the office come up with the stories and then send them off to a japanese company to do the art. The exception to this was the "Sonderausgabe" special addition issues. They made a few of these as promotion for upcoming games and they had to have much stricter involvement and approval from Nintendo. The Zelda one even credited Miyamoto himself as part of the production. There are some obvious differences that stop it from being mainline canon, but there are also some really interesting things within it, such as this being the only place where we actually see Wolf kick Pigma off the team (which is confirmed to have happened in assault). So its in a weird place of being niche but also definitely having some direct involvement from Nintendo to make sure the characters are represented in a way they are happy with. This is also where the screenshot at 3:06 came from. I had to translate that from German (it was a good time to have a german professor as a grandpa haha), but generally its a super interesting read. Its an incredibly rare comic and hard to find, but you can find a digital English translation online.
- For vs mode, it definitely isn't ideal but it is also literally the only time we even see Wolf outside of his ship so its the best we have to go on. It also tracks with similar durability feats we see Fox pull off in Adventures and Assault while on-foot.
- With the exploding planet, it is really hard to see but you can actually track 3 arwings flying from the planet as it explodes. We can use that as a moderate position for the durability. We do know Peppy and the Great Fox were likely still on the surface and if Star Fox was only barely able to make it out of the planet while knowing there was an explosion, it would be tough for Wolf to get even further away if he was surprised at the explosion. Regardless, using the Arwings is the safest measurement here.
Thanks for watching!
@@SmashBracket I'll definitely need to rewatch that scene, it's been a while so maybe there is obviously something I missed LOL with the exploding planet. Thanks for all the great information I'm definitely going to want to look this stuff up sometime.
But yeah I can agree when it comes to the exploding planet durability feat because it's not like they were at the core of it but escaping it and obviously there's some force to be reckoned with there. If it were at the core that would be a different story obviously, but escaping the near edges of that destructive power I can definitely see where you're coming from. Probably would take a whole lot of power from the ship but nonetheless would be worth it.
Thanks again for all the great information I would love to archive one day. And thanks again for being awesome, polite, and for simply discussing Star Fox with me, I don't have many people to discuss it with but I'm glad there are people like you guys out there who can. Have an epic day! And remember trust your instincts LOL.
Oh as for the durability from enemy attacks, I could see them being able to take a little extra due to the fact that they are wearing some form of space gear / armor. Probably made of a real flexible tough material.
@@SmashBracket I am a big fan
Do you know where I can feel nd the song for tha battle! I looked everywhere on RUclips, and you stopped making stuff on Spotify so I am sad🥺
That wasn't even a fair fight lol. Still an amazing animation.
Next time is gonna be interesting, because afaik Mr. Game & Watch doesn't have any canon outside of Smash Brothers, as he was made for the party fighting game as an amalgamation of the figures from Game & Watch games. So I guess we have a composite at our hands.
I came to watch the battle even though I knew I wouldn't like the outcome based on the Sonic vs Fox analysis. The battle was amazing, so props to the animator for making it super entertaining. Other then me fundamentally not liking Star Fox getting scaled this way, you at least made the analysis sound informative.
Will watch Wii Fit vs G&W when it comes out. Till next time.
You seriously believe that Inciniroar can beat Wolf? Because I certainly don’t and Pokémons are the one treated with an unfair advantage over the others due to them being fused with their anime counterparts and having more than four moves.
THE WAIT IS OVER YAAAAAS
Thanks for this amazing animation
I thought Wolf was like… super unaggressive. He was kinda just standing there taking it until he finished his drink.
Uhhhhhhhhh
I think Fox is twice as fast as he was in Sonic vs Fox 1. Sonic may be screwed.
He is 💀💀
Keep in mind, due to being the MC Fox has way more feats than Wolf does and Wolf was already OP just bcuz he rivals Fox
@@thegreatestever913 true
My guess is that with any form of power scaling Incineroar is gonna stomp
Edit: Seems like they didn't scale, a pleasant surprise
Sonic vs fox rematch when?
You'll get your rematch when you fix this damn door
@@davidgoldammer348 I don’t wanna fix it, tho!
@@yobrosonan1082 ok then. no sonic vs fox 2
@@davidgoldammer348 spider man 3 references
Thats very even for a guy literally can react at speed of Light (wolf) yeah wolf wins that easily
I think a ness vs pit Will be interesting or a marth vs corrin
This was really creative and entertaining kepp up the good work
The mouse from his computer keeps showing up lol
I am never going to un-notice this
@@SmashBracket It cracks me up seeing the mouse drifting while everything goes on in the video
Wow you're really great at animating.I watched all of the videos.can you do donkey kong vs Pokemon trainer I think it could be a great fight
Embargo shouldn´t be able to negate almost every weapon that Wolf had (incluiding his ship)?
It only lasts for a few turns,so Incineroar would have to kill Wolf before that time limit ends,but considering Wolf's superior speed and durability I doubt it would happen,or at least he wouldn't have the time to kill Wolf BEFORE he gets his weapons back.
Great fight. I'd just say give pokemon anime feats as it probably shows more realistic and quantifiable numbers. Definitely wouldn't have mattered here though
That was an amazing fight there Ink with such great effort to make this fight possible, much respect there, it was awesome!
My Prediction for next time- Game and Watch either turns into an octopus and defeats wii fit trainer or hits him/her with a 9 hammer
Kirby is not even in his next match and he's already getting damaged
What did Nintendo just gave incineroar just now? Also love the video and the mother series
Lore Talking: Wolf... bruh he has a Gun
9:03 dude it’s not his bellybutton it’s coming from his flaming belt.
That’s creative still, especially when he’s supposed to have a wrestling design.
Wolf just killed Mario. Let that sink in.
Rooting for my main from Melee to Ult. Game & Watch!
Half expected wolf to take incineroar in as his own pokemon
so... Next match is WTF character vs WTF character? LOL
Kirby gets hurt in every fight I’m starting to feel bad for him 13:22
I think that Kirby is going to win so that’s why they make this gag.
Wolf didn’t have ta kill Mario like that c’mon
I like this stuff. Not quite as good as Death Battle overall, but the animation is definitely entertaining. Wolf's VA could've used some work and there were some weird pacing issues, but the fight itself was great.
8:58 Actually, it's from the flame belt.
Funny how Ninten pops up for 5 seconds, to ask for an autograph.
I knew there was something so unfair about pitting mr Star Wolf himself against just a incineroar
Wolf: *Deals most of his damage with items*
Incineroar: *literally has something that disables items*
Me: *visible confusion*
like I think wolf might win regardkess but c'mon when you have such an obvious counter to your opponent you gotta use it
I'm not sure how embargo works when the opponent has multiple items
@@canned3880 embargo shuts down items, period. Such as held, or healing. Which woulda been a MAJOR help for incin
@@NJMiguess there are some items it doesn't work with, and doesn't last more than 5 turns. So it wouldn't be too helpful for long anyway
@@canned3880 I mean he could just keep doing it... But still, I personally think wolf would still win, but I don't like it when obvious checks to someone are ignored
Inciniroar can only have four moves anyway and it is a bit of stretch to say that embargo works on every single item including complex and advanced space ships.
Should of just spammed revenge and then get that nice side B crit
Ngl I wanted Wii Fit Vs Mac, but this will be interesting to watch too
Little Mac will be fighting Min Min!
@@davidgoldammer348 That makes more sense
Its gonna be awesome. And Mac probably wins that. Also Wii Fit vs Game and Watch is better than Wii Fit's original opponent, the Mii. That would have been a stomp on the level of Wolf vs Incineroar. Mii's are INSANE
@@davidgoldammer348 Truth
Why did the music go away
1. Ness shows up, so it probably takes place pre Ness Vs Red
2. Joker is killing monoeyes in the background
That is not Ness. That is Ninten.
@@davidgoldammer348 Do.
@@jaxonjaxon9901 .. . .
@@davidgoldammer348 Shut up, it was funny.
@@jaxonjaxon9901 nono. those are the first 4 notes of megalovania
My prediction for the next smash bracket is July 14th
While Incinaroar had the The eye of the Tiger but Wolf was hungry like the wolf.
literally fighting like cats and dogs
the fight was epic even the ending was epic best video thumbs up
Incinaroar would've won if he used embargo
He gets blitzed before he’s able to use it
Yeah this is something I had intended to go into more detail about but got lost somewhere along the scripting process. Embargo could in theory stop Wolf from using items, but Incineroar would either need to capitalize on this perfectly with something like Toxic or hit Incineroar thousands and thousands of times before the effects wear off. Even if we *were* to assume Embargo led to a 100% win for Incineroar, he would still need to pick it instantly before either opponent can act, which is really tough when Wolf is millions of times faster and far more aggressive. While it could definitely help Incineroar's chances, Wolf is just far more likely to shoot first.
Incredible
Boomstick: this wild fire cat was 6ft under the wolf's heel from the get go. It's too bad that he was too spaced out to notice.
Wiz: the winner is Wolf O'Donnell
You know that would be a amazing death battle idea let me do it for you
Don't think I didn't notice that Hutner x Hunter reference.
This was peak fiction.
Alternative title:
The most dangerous and wanted Mercenary in the entire galaxy vs one of pokemon's gods (no jokes currently Incineroar & Zashian are the gods of pokemon competetive)
Danm Wolf destroyed that foe
I look forward to the next episode
You‘re too busy beating the crap out of Wii for Trainer so you won’t watch it
That was really good, it's always cool to learn about characters like wolf and find out how cool they actually are, also you guys are madmen for dropping this on my birthday
Happy birthday
@@Kingbeat1 oh thank you
Happy birthday!
@@SmashBracket thanks guys I appreciate it.
Stupid prediction: G&W will throw unhealthy food at Wii Fit, Wii Fit stresses and explodes (or surrenders)
If dan hibiki can take on incineroar, i feel like waluigi vs dan hibiki is in order to see which fighter is more full of themself
Next time
Me: meh.... Another one of these..
-_-
I imagine Game and Watch wins by hitting wii fit with a 9 and sending her flying into space