Now I'm tempted to build one. I have a large Shopvac brand vacuum. Once I started using their bags (3 for $10, which last me over a year) I get virtually no dust in the filter. The bags act as the primary filter. I think this is how these vacuums are meant to be used, but nobody seems to buy the bags. I do like the idea of using the cyclone though. Glad to see someone else who appreciates Shopnotes (and Woodsmith presumably). I have all the issues of both mags.
Great cart design, the outlet/ext4ension cord is a great addition. When I get a chance to make one, I might try adding a built in floor sweep at one end that I could connect the hose to so I can just push it along to clean sawdust off the floor easily.
I have also brought a dust deputy ( full kit ) and it works a treat! Only problem with the kit is, that when hooked up to my Makita shop vac. it actually has so much suction that it wants to try and suck in the plastic lid into the collection bucket. Would love to at some time in the future build what you have built for your dust deputy as shown in this great video you have shared. Great Work! Would whole heartedly recommend the Dust Deputy to any one who is considering purchasing this bit of magic. Thanks again for putting together this wonderful video.
Thanks, Trevor! A lot of good info and tips. Personally would have prefered no music. It was too loud and repetitious. I find it distracting. But that is a personal preference.
Very nice work and attention to detail. Man after my own heart. I just completed building a cyclone separator using a traffic cone and a five gallon bucket. I am astonished at how efficient it is with a Ridgid shop vac. I can suck up a pile of table saw debris including quite a bit of particle board dust and there is no trace in the shop vac! I can wipe my hand inside and I get nothing. I was looking for some ideas for a cart and I like your adaptation of the Shop Notes version. I was thinking about stacking mine with the cyclone above the vac to take up less floor space. I might still do something similar to yours.
Trevor, hope you are still around. I am just now starting this exact project accept I have the Dewalt 12 gal shop vac. Thank you sir, best to you. //ji
Hi Trevor I subscribed as i enjoyed your video, may I suggest one thing only...The reason that your pipe collapsed is because the suction you have is above what the oneida cyclon can handle ?? one way to get away with it just add another cyclone next to it in serial connection, I have seen that and it works great you feel that you fixed your collapse pipe problem but your problem is there but the pipe you used is too strong to clooapse thus you have a situation that you are starving the suction... sorry for my comments overall it is a great project continue the good wirk. Kind regards from OZ Jack Marashlian
I liked your video. Good explanation of your process. I got some good construction ideas from you. I used the Dust Deputy on its casters exactly once. Tugging two units - the shop vac and the DD - around the shop would be bad enough, but the Dust Deputy is top heavy and fell over constantly. My cart has the shop vac above the Dust Deputy so that the air flows up and through only one 90 degree angle into the shop vac. This cart has three (3) 90 degree angles in the hose between the DD and the shop vac. That reduces efficiency a great deal.
Great video. I think the rainy day today will ensure I finally build my Dust Deputy cart. I've had it sitting in the box for some while. Thank you for sharing this build. Unsure if I will let my dog help or not.
A year after watching this video, I still find myself randomly humming this song. It's like a curse that is never lifted...But seriously I am going to be making this build! Thanks for sharing.
REALLY good video! Thank you for your effort, time and thoughtful ideas! I've been using a homemade Thien filter to great success, but my Wife just bought me a Dust Deputy. I might even be making this cart today!
Trevor a very good project it fits the bill perfectly is the shopenot available in the UK as a retired site carpenter I would to built your cart best wishes from Alan
thank you much for the great video Trevor, guess i have to build one cause my apartment is also my workshop, only using a shoop vac right now, i've been looking for a setup like this, thanks again
If your previous motor burned up because the filter was clogged, it was probably because the blower runs at higher speeds without a load (no air flow) and this could damage the bearings, or because it depends on airflow for cooling. However, it's interesting to note that blocking the airflow actually causes power usage to go down. The motor is actually working /less/ when there is no airflow.
It may have been a flaw with the motor then. What happened is the motor burned out at the carbon brushes. The plastic retainers melted and the brushes came out (it was so long ago, perhaps the bearing overheating caused the area around the brushes to melt). I put it down to repeated strain on the motor since logically I thought the motor was working harder because air flow was restricted. Thanks for the feedback.
Hey Trev! Nice video. I like what you did there. I was going to go for an over/under cyclone and vac but after seeing your build I'm going side by side. (It won't be top heavy) BTW, big Springkbok fan.
Hello Trevor Your video convinced me to build this cart for my Fein Turbo vac and the Dust Deputy. I like your modification to the plumbing connection using PVC from the DD to the vac. Question....Do the 2 90 degree bends impact the air flow at all? I recall that you did it because of the collapse of regular 2" hose.) Thanks so much for the great video!
I like this design, it seems like it makes the shop vac easier to remove if I need it for a messy cleanup. I was considering buying a cheaper shop vac to use permanently in a Dust Deputy cart, but with this design it looks like it's still easy to disconnect and remove the vacuum. How stable is it? Do you have any issues with the cart tipping from pulling on the hose during use?
The ply lid for the bucket doesnt have any seal or mechanism to hold it to the bucket? It appears to be just sitting on top via gravity, any issues with leakage from the lid rim?
I had put a dust deputy alongside my shop vac and decided to build a stand like the one I saw on the Woodsmith Shop when I stumbled on your video on building yours. I noticed your crosscut sled, and really liked the T-trac slot on top of the rear fence. Are the 4 long slots in the bottom also for T-Tracs? Very nice video too.
You did a beautiful job on the cart. I have seen other versions of the exact cart, but they didn't round out the holes or corners and they looked like their sons made them at camp. BTW, that is very "white" looking plywood. I'm used to seeing the "wood" color plywood. Are you in South Africa and a different type of wood is used there or could it just be the lighting? Thanks!
Hello Trevor, thank you for the awesome video. I just finished making mine and I love it. I know nothing about electricity, how to I connect the electric outlet to the extension cord?
There are many fine instructional videos and websites that can help you with this. Check the family handyman site for details, there is a great video on their site which shows you step by step. www.familyhandyman.com/electrical/wiring-outlets/add-an-electrical-outlet/view-all
Thanks for sharing. I am going to build this the coming weekend to help get a handle on the dust in my garage shop. Can I ask you what kind of router table insert did you attach to the wing of your table saw? I'm looking to do something similar with my jet table saw. Does it work well?
Cheer~~~a person whose immediate superior is a senior figure within an organization and who is empowered to act as a substitute for this superior.(but this machine)😅
+Cane Pazzo The hinged top allows the top to lift up so the bucket and top can be removed underneath. The reason is because the bucket sits in a recessed hole in the base so to lift it up and out, the top has to be able to move up as well. Otherwise there is no other practical purpose.
+Trevor's Workshop Do you have to remove the PVC fittings each time you want to empty the bucket? The PVC is a great idea- much more efficient use of suction than the flexible corrugated pipe. Great work!
+Gerard Williams the PVC pipe is just friction fit. It is possible to remove the lid and take the bucket out without disconnecting anything, however, I normally detach the pvc from the dust deputy and take the entire section outside when I wish to empty the bucket. that way I am taking all the dust outside when I pop the lid off to empty the bucket.
hello, i wonder how much ideal watt on vacuum suitable for this project. if i have 1800watt small bag vacuum, do u think that vacuum have enought power to suck the dust? tq for ur priceless feedback mate
Thanks for the great video. I shall be building a similar style cart for my dust collection - different vac, cyclone and bucket - but I love the sleek and also very practical design a lot. Incidentally, is that a Danish accent I detect in your voice over?
+Trevor's Workshop Thanks for the quick response! Some reviewers on Amazon claim this bit is not a good choice for plunge cuts, but your demo seems to contradict this. Would a spiral compression bit be a good choice for this application?
+dakotamax2 I do not own one of those type of bits so I cannot comment on that. The freud bit is designed to allow plunge cuts so it has worked well for me in many different types of applications. If I were to only do plunge cuts, for example to cut mortises, then I may look to purchase a spiral down cut bit but the freud bit I have works fine for what I do (and is a lot cheaper). Hope this helps.
Thanks for sharing, Trevor. If anyone is looking for the plans from ShopNotes #109 Shop Vac Cart, they can be found here: www.woodsmithplans.com/plan/shop-vacuum/
Hey Woodsmith folks (or Trevor) -- I notice the plans call for a lot of screws going into plywood end-grain. With the exception of the 3" screws going in to the tall piece through the bottom, wouldn't pocket screws be a better (stronger) choice for the butt-joints?
Nice video Trevor. May I ask where you bought the blue electrical outlet box used for the shop vac and Ivac outlet? Thanks for your time and assistance. Ron H
Every big box store should have one. www.homedepot.com/p/1-Gang-8-cu-in-Flanged-Shallow-Old-Work-Box-B108R-UPC/100404058?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CTHD%7CG%7C0%7CG-VF-PLA-D27E-Electrical%7C&gclid=CjwKCAiAm7LSBRBBEiwAvL1-LxAogC3lL65aiG-ETJ3SL73N-EbC479N0hAapDHr8AfjeV7Rg_En6hoC2hMQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CKvF8oXsvNgCFSzI4wcdpQsGXw
The cyclone catches the dust before it makes it to the shopvac, saving you money on filters (and actually, you don't have to empty this thing nearly as much as you have to clean filters of fine dust).
Here is a free link to Shop Notes Issue 109: archive.org/details/shopnotes88vol15shopbuiltpanelsaw_202003/ShopNotes%20%23109%20Space-saving%20Workshop/page/n35/mode/2up
Hello TREVOR a priori the magazine from which you 're not inspired appears more . Could you send me the plans for the cyclone support. Thank you Sorry for my English.... (Google traduction) ;-))
I had to mute the repetitious soundtrack and turn on closed captioning. Otherwise, I enjoy watching such meticulous workmanship but strictly as a voyeur. The cyclone dust collector I make for myself will not be the thing of beauty you fabricated here. It will, however, get the job done. (Hopefully.)
Trevor, this is absolutely marvelous work you did by paying close attention to important details to obtain max efficiency👏👏👏. Cheers, Dušan
Thank you
Great video.
Mounting the components side by side seems well balanced.
Many thanks for taking the time to make this video. I will be making one of these and your experiences will be very helpful.
Now I'm tempted to build one.
I have a large Shopvac brand vacuum. Once I started using their bags (3 for $10, which last me over a year) I get virtually no dust in the filter. The bags act as the primary filter. I think this is how these vacuums are meant to be used, but nobody seems to buy the bags. I do like the idea of using the cyclone though.
Glad to see someone else who appreciates Shopnotes (and Woodsmith presumably). I have all the issues of both mags.
Great cart design, the outlet/ext4ension cord is a great addition. When I get a chance to make one, I might try adding a built in floor sweep at one end that I could connect the hose to so I can just push it along to clean sawdust off the floor easily.
I have also brought a dust deputy ( full kit ) and it works a treat! Only problem with the kit is, that when hooked up to my Makita shop vac. it actually has so much suction that it wants to try and suck in the plastic lid into the collection bucket. Would love to at some time in the future build what you have built for your dust deputy as shown in this great video you have shared. Great Work! Would whole heartedly recommend the Dust Deputy to any one who is considering purchasing this bit of magic. Thanks again for putting together this wonderful video.
What a great project. You’ve given me some good ideas.
Forgot to say, but the revisions you made were excellent.
Great video! Clear and well made! Thanks for sharing your information.
Thanks, Trevor! A lot of good info and tips. Personally would have prefered no music. It was too loud and repetitious. I find it distracting. But that is a personal preference.
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Very nice work and attention to detail. Man after my own heart. I just completed building a cyclone separator using a traffic cone and a five gallon bucket. I am astonished at how efficient it is with a Ridgid shop vac. I can suck up a pile of table saw debris including quite a bit of particle board dust and there is no trace in the shop vac! I can wipe my hand inside and I get nothing. I was looking for some ideas for a cart and I like your adaptation of the Shop Notes version. I was thinking about stacking mine with the cyclone above the vac to take up less floor space. I might still do something similar to yours.
Sure like the shop carts you built as well as the vac cart
Great video of a great project! Thanks!
Trevor, hope you are still around. I am just now starting this exact project accept I have the Dewalt 12 gal shop vac. Thank you sir, best to you. //ji
Hi Trevor I subscribed as i enjoyed your video, may I suggest one thing only...The reason that your pipe collapsed is because the suction you have is above what the oneida cyclon can handle ?? one way to get away with it just add another cyclone next to it in serial connection, I have seen that and it works great you feel that you fixed your collapse pipe problem but your problem is there but the pipe you used is too strong to clooapse thus you have a situation that you are starving the suction... sorry for my comments overall it is a great project continue the good wirk. Kind regards from OZ Jack Marashlian
I liked your video. Good explanation of your process. I got some good construction ideas from you.
I used the Dust Deputy on its casters exactly once. Tugging two units - the shop vac and the DD - around the shop would be bad enough, but the Dust Deputy is top heavy and fell over constantly.
My cart has the shop vac above the Dust Deputy so that the air flows up and through only one 90 degree angle into the shop vac. This cart has three (3) 90 degree angles in the hose between the DD and the shop vac. That reduces efficiency a great deal.
Excellent work Trevor, with some great ideas added too!
Great video. I think the rainy day today will ensure I finally build my Dust Deputy cart. I've had it sitting in the box for some while. Thank you for sharing this build. Unsure if I will let my dog help or not.
Great work Trevor
Form. Trevor
You did a fantastic job
You should sell these carts in ready to assembly kit form. Nice work!
after moving and my verticle version completely fell apart, its time to do this again, but the right way. This may be it! thank you
A year after watching this video, I still find myself randomly humming this song. It's like a curse that is never lifted...But seriously I am going to be making this build! Thanks for sharing.
REALLY good video! Thank you for your effort, time and thoughtful ideas! I've been using a homemade Thien filter to great success, but my Wife just bought me a Dust Deputy. I might even be making this cart today!
Great video. Beautiful build!
Beautiful work Trevor I really enjoyed this project. you have amazing skills thank you for sharing, subscribed!
Very nice - love the modifications. I might try my hand at building one of these carts.
Trevor a very good project it fits the bill perfectly is the shopenot available in the UK as a retired site carpenter I would to built your cart best wishes from Alan
Saffa! Wish we had shopvacs in South Africa!
thank you much for the great video Trevor, guess i have to build one cause my apartment is also my workshop, only using a shoop vac right now, i've been looking for a setup like this, thanks again
If your previous motor burned up because the filter was clogged, it was probably because the blower runs at higher speeds without a load (no air flow) and this could damage the bearings, or because it depends on airflow for cooling. However, it's interesting to note that blocking the airflow actually causes power usage to go down. The motor is actually working /less/ when there is no airflow.
It may have been a flaw with the motor then. What happened is the motor burned out at the carbon brushes. The plastic retainers melted and the brushes came out (it was so long ago, perhaps the bearing overheating caused the area around the brushes to melt). I put it down to repeated strain on the motor since logically I thought the motor was working harder because air flow was restricted. Thanks for the feedback.
the dog section is the best.
Great job well.done I shall make one soon 👍
Bravissimo complimenti!!! bye bye Italy (Turin)
Hey Trev! Nice video. I like what you did there. I was going to go for an over/under cyclone and vac but after seeing your build I'm going side by side. (It won't be top heavy) BTW, big Springkbok fan.
lol. good catch on the accent. just returned from a christmas visit to the motherland. thanks for watching.
Same here! This video solidified my side-by-side configuration. Works much better than stacking, imho.
Hello Trevor Your video convinced me to build this cart for my Fein Turbo vac and the Dust Deputy. I like your modification to the plumbing connection using PVC from the DD to the vac.
Question....Do the 2 90 degree bends impact the air flow at all? I recall that you did it because of the collapse of regular 2" hose.)
Thanks so much for the great video!
Un grand bravo pour cette belle vidéo / Réalisation !....
Great video you are so talented I would buy one from you . That was so cool keep up the good work 😎
Thanks for the video!! Much appreciated! Great job!
I like this design, it seems like it makes the shop vac easier to remove if I need it for a messy cleanup. I was considering buying a cheaper shop vac to use permanently in a Dust Deputy cart, but with this design it looks like it's still easy to disconnect and remove the vacuum.
How stable is it? Do you have any issues with the cart tipping from pulling on the hose during use?
Nice job on the video and the build.
Very nice cart, thanks for sharing this video! 😏
amazing how there is dislikes on this video.. Great work!
yes, there are always going to be haters no matter what. I did the same video project and have dislikes as well....
Musak is probably the issue! All else is very good.
I just read some of the comments. There are alot of negative Musak comments here. Where there is smoke......
fkn music...
Thank You for that interesting video. You're an excellent craftsman
Built it , love it
Really like the auto on switch idea. Nice execution on dolly. Don’t like that sharp u-turn at the top of the Dust Deputy though.
I wish I had a four-legged buddy to bother me while I'm working
brilliant dust cart build, what size hose is that
Hola,desde España,le felicito por su excelente trabajo y no puedo por menos que suscribirme a su canal,saludos y gracias.
nice setup thanks for sharing.
The ply lid for the bucket doesnt have any seal or mechanism to hold it to the bucket? It appears to be just sitting on top via gravity, any issues with leakage from the lid rim?
I had put a dust deputy alongside my shop vac and decided to build a stand like the one I saw on the Woodsmith Shop when I stumbled on your video on building yours. I noticed your crosscut sled, and really liked the T-trac slot on top of the rear fence. Are the 4 long slots in the bottom also for T-Tracs?
Very nice video too.
A+ beautiful work
Good old Shop Notes.
You did a beautiful job on the cart. I have seen other versions of the exact cart, but they didn't round out the holes or corners and they looked like their sons made them at camp. BTW, that is very "white" looking plywood. I'm used to seeing the "wood" color plywood. Are you in South Africa and a different type of wood is used there or could it just be the lighting?
Thanks!
@@Pens4Life85, Why was that an insult? The wood looks different and given his SA accent I ask if he was from there. And......???
@@Pens4Life85 Don't be a moron
Why do you need the Dust Deputy? Could you not fit the hoses straight onto the bucket lid? I've seen other videos where they do that.
Hello Trevor, thank you for the awesome video. I just finished making mine and I love it. I know nothing about electricity, how to I connect the electric outlet to the extension cord?
There are many fine instructional videos and websites that can help you with this. Check the family handyman site for details, there is a great video on their site which shows you step by step. www.familyhandyman.com/electrical/wiring-outlets/add-an-electrical-outlet/view-all
Trevor's Workshop Thankyouthankyouverymuch!!
Thanks for sharing. I am going to build this the coming weekend to help get a handle on the dust in my garage shop. Can I ask you what kind of router table insert did you attach to the wing of your table saw? I'm looking to do something similar with my jet table saw. Does it work well?
Cheer~~~a person whose immediate superior is a senior figure within an organization and who is empowered to act as a substitute for this superior.(but this machine)😅
How does the shop-vac and dust deputy combo perform with a table saw or other larger tools?
Very nice! What is the purpose of the hinged top? How do you empty the bucket?
+Cane Pazzo The hinged top allows the top to lift up so the bucket and top can be removed underneath. The reason is because the bucket sits in a recessed hole in the base so to lift it up and out, the top has to be able to move up as well. Otherwise there is no other practical purpose.
+Trevor's Workshop Do you have to remove the PVC fittings each time you want to empty the bucket? The PVC is a great idea- much more efficient use of suction than the flexible corrugated pipe. Great work!
+Gerard Williams the PVC pipe is just friction fit. It is possible to remove the lid and take the bucket out without disconnecting anything, however, I normally detach the pvc from the dust deputy and take the entire section outside when I wish to empty the bucket. that way I am taking all the dust outside when I pop the lid off to empty the bucket.
Parabéns..., estou falando um aqui e, vou aproveitar alguma das suas ideias, gostei e achei prático!
Abraço aqui do Brasil 🇧🇷
hello, i wonder how much ideal watt on vacuum suitable for this project. if i have 1800watt small bag vacuum, do u think that vacuum have enought power to suck the dust? tq for ur priceless feedback mate
love it
Thanks for the great video. I shall be building a similar style cart for my dust collection - different vac, cyclone and bucket - but I love the sleek and also very practical design a lot. Incidentally, is that a Danish accent I detect in your voice over?
See above, South African
How many pieces of plywood did you laminate together for the hose hanger?
Nice design. Thanks
Is there any free plans for your cart that I can build. Great job
Nice job!
Great video, very clearly presented!
What type of router bit are you using for the round cuts in the base?
+dakotamax2 I am using a freud 1/2" straight bit, search amazon for ASIN B00004T7CK
+Trevor's Workshop Thanks for the quick response!
Some reviewers on Amazon claim this bit is not a good choice for plunge cuts, but your demo seems to contradict this.
Would a spiral compression bit be a good choice for this application?
+dakotamax2 I do not own one of those type of bits so I cannot comment on that. The freud bit is designed to allow plunge cuts so it has worked well for me in many different types of applications. If I were to only do plunge cuts, for example to cut mortises, then I may look to purchase a spiral down cut bit but the freud bit I have works fine for what I do (and is a lot cheaper). Hope this helps.
+Trevor's Workshop Freud it is then! Thanks for the responses; I'll be watching : - ).
dakotama
Very nice workl
Nice job ...
Clean!
Hi what kind of measuring device is that your using for the arcs
I found this by accident , A great video, pity about the Musak , its very irritating. what price are dust deputy things.
$55.00
Does anybody else have the issue with the vac collapsing the bucket? I dont have a massive vac.
Top notch.
How can I get a copy of these plans?
Hi. How many power have your sistem vac, please?. Thanks.
Is this the music from the taint photoshoot on Mr. Show?
Bryan Scholtes HAHAHAH!!! MR. SHOW!!!!!!
Thanks for sharing, Trevor. If anyone is looking for the plans from ShopNotes #109 Shop Vac Cart, they can be found here: www.woodsmithplans.com/plan/shop-vacuum/
Hey Woodsmith folks (or Trevor) -- I notice the plans call for a lot of screws going into plywood end-grain. With the exception of the 3" screws going in to the tall piece through the bottom, wouldn't pocket screws be a better (stronger) choice for the butt-joints?
Pocket screws would be a perfectly acceptable substitution... in fact if I were building it now, that is probably what I would use.
Daar is nou n mooi ding!
Exelente, gracias.-
wow, great job,,
Very nice
Nice video Trevor. May I ask where you bought the blue electrical outlet box used for the shop vac and Ivac outlet? Thanks for your time and assistance.
Ron H
Every big box store should have one. www.homedepot.com/p/1-Gang-8-cu-in-Flanged-Shallow-Old-Work-Box-B108R-UPC/100404058?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CTHD%7CG%7C0%7CG-VF-PLA-D27E-Electrical%7C&gclid=CjwKCAiAm7LSBRBBEiwAvL1-LxAogC3lL65aiG-ETJ3SL73N-EbC479N0hAapDHr8AfjeV7Rg_En6hoC2hMQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CKvF8oXsvNgCFSzI4wcdpQsGXw
Why put the dust into a small tub smaller than the shop vac? Must like emptying containers.
The cyclone catches the dust before it makes it to the shopvac, saving you money on filters (and actually, you don't have to empty this thing nearly as much as you have to clean filters of fine dust).
Here is a free link to Shop Notes Issue 109: archive.org/details/shopnotes88vol15shopbuiltpanelsaw_202003/ShopNotes%20%23109%20Space-saving%20Workshop/page/n35/mode/2up
FIne job!!
Hello TREVOR a priori the magazine from which you 're not inspired appears more . Could you send me the plans for the cyclone support. Thank you
Sorry for my English.... (Google traduction) ;-))
Great video why the music to loud my ears are sore
Couldn't take much more of the endlessly repeating music. Otherwise good presentation.
very good video but would be better without the music
I had to mute the repetitious soundtrack and turn on closed captioning. Otherwise, I enjoy watching such meticulous workmanship but strictly as a voyeur. The cyclone dust collector I make for myself will not be the thing of beauty you fabricated here. It will, however, get the job done. (Hopefully.)
Yeah great- second on the ungroovy Mus-ick. Id rather just hear nothing.
I tried to watch and listen, but I had to mute. I would love to watch this video without the music, which is way too loud for me.
Si el vídeo es en Inglés,ni modo no capto nada
Great idea but he background noise is too loud and annoying.
Nice video. The Muzak is extremely irritating.
If I had the brand machinery you have, I could afford to buy something easier to use, right out of the box