It did change everything in loudness obviously. What bother me is however that the vac itself might need ventilation when using continuously for quite a period of time. Or I may be wrong.
No, you are very correct. I am actually going to do a follow up video to this one to show what I had to do after using the cart for a couple weeks. The sound reduction is great but it overheated a couple times. 🤔. Needed more venting.
Arkangelsk Lucifer that’s a very good point. I should have thought to hook the exhaust directly into the baffles I made in order to prevent heat recirculating. 👍🏼
TY for making. Before watching this I was thinking of making a 3 sided one with the opening away from me which I thought would lower noise and not over heat. That might not do much.
Well done ... the project came out surprisingly effective. Most digital phones do have dB meter apps available for them that if nothing else should give you a good reference point and delta between the two. The one I use on my iPhone was totally free and is reasonably accurate. Cheers!
Ha I've been thinking about making a vacuum / dust collection cart exactly like this I hadn't considered adding sound damping, that is a nice touch. Good job and great idea
De lo MEJOR que he visto en RUclips para insonorizar. Supongo...no lo he visto , que en la base (abajo) tendrá una entrada de aire para el motor. ( a ser posible, también insonorizada) La salida del aire refrigerado muy, muy...correcta. Gracias por el video. Un saludo.
I made something similar, but opted against foam sound baffling. Surplus fiberglass furnace filters defined the size, as they were slotted in as the left and right side walls to offer large air outlets. Perfect size for the shop-vac, and they provide an additional air filter stage. Tests with a smartphone sound level app showed a noise drop of ~7dB IIRC. Not bad. Perhaps you could append a sound level app test for your video. (Yes, you DO have a sound meter if you have a smartphone) A few other notes. 1) To secure the bucket to the top, I simply screwed another bucket to the top which acts as a bucket holder that nests the dust bucket; no convoluted wooden frame. This makes it super easy to take the dust bucket out and is very stable because the dust bucket is firmly held almost the top by the other bucket. It's like the buckets were designed to stack in each other ;). Finally, there is alot of heat build-up in the cabinet. Your design is even more air tight than mine so it will seal in even more heat. This will likely have a bad effect on the motor. :( Even with the 2 air filter sidewalls, my system gets too toasty for my liking and I need to remember not to run it too long. I'm using a basic iVac switch which means that my corded saws don't run long, but using a sander will have an uncomfortably long run time.
It’s funny you bring up the draws in heat. I am getting ready to release an update video about this cart. SPOILER ALERT* it definitely had a heat issue. 😬
Two Ideas to add to your project: 1. Add an auto switch to the powerbox. This way, you can turn the switch on, plug in the tool you want to use with the vacuum and the vacuum will automatically turn on when the tool turns on. You can also get ones with a delay so the shop vac runs for 5 secs to collect the remaining dust once the tool powers down. You can also get one with an over-ride if your wanting to connect the hose to suck up dust on the floor like a regular vacuum. 2. Build a manifold for the hose connections. I built one so I can have a 2 1/2 inch and 1 3/4 inch hose that I can connect and simply unplug and close off the hose I'm not using for maximum vacuum. The manifold also has a bypass valve to reduce the strain on the shop vac when running the smaller hose as the smaller hose and it's length puts extra stress on the shop vac, which raises the temp inside the box which will kill the shop vac quickly and cause concern with a fire starting if anything inside gets too hot. WIth regards to point 1, I built my own auto switch that detects the tool running, turns the shop vac on and powers the shop vac down after 5 secs when the tool turns off. I also have the same auto switch system monitoring the internal temp. of the box so if the shop vac creates too much heat from extended run time or a blockage from the filter or the dust deputy bin filling to max, the auto switch turns off the shop vac and the tool as a safety measure. You will know that either the temp was too high in the box from the stress on the shop vac, or your filter/dust deputy collection container needs cleaning/emptying. Nice job by the way.
I REALLY need an auto switch for sure. I will probably just buy one as the videos I have watched to make one just aren’t super clear to me. Having a temp sensor is an awesome idea for sure. As far as different sized ports I really only use the bigger hose and if not I just have a reducer to go on the end of my 2 1/2” hose. Great Inout though! Thank you. 🙏🏼🍻
What was going on with all of the sawdust in front of the vac when you opened the door? Are you like me, and have gotten lazy about emptying the bucket, lol? I made a "closet" off the back of my shop to house the new 2.5 hp dust collection unit and the compressor. Not only for the noise aspect but space as well. My shop is only 16'x10', but when I built the closet I made it so I can expand the back wall another 6' to match it. The "6 hp" motor on the shop vac I was using for the shop, just didn't keep up well enough for more than one machine. I think a lot of people expect the machine to handle it all but the 6 hp motor is rated that with nothing on it. no filter, hose, or base. Even then they are not strong enough for machines like a jointer or planer. That number is very misleading. I'm waiting to attach 4" piping when the addition is completed but I still have a hose I use with it>
thank you....i actually tore this cart apart a while back due to it being just too heavy to pull around the shop. The sound deadening worked great but the excess weight I didnt like.
I do like the build and I don't mean to come off so arrogant, but not everybody has shop space to drag around a 1973 VW Beetle behind them!! Like I say I DO love the build and it gives me a lot of great ideas!! BUT in my shop, it would almost be far easier to build a "stationary version" of your box, and then connect it to a central vac system with blast gates and a dedicated vacuum system at its core!! My shop after all is only currently 8 feet by 8 feet in total so there isn't a ton of room to have something this large dragging around behind me in!!
Watch my follow up video I am releasing tomorrow. I now feel the EXACT same way. I haven’t moved mine around much at all since building it. Thanks for watching!
Very nice job I had built mine almost the same as yours but I ended running a exhaust pipe out the side and a vent plate on top to let out the heat because my vac over heated now works great
Impressive. If you make another one, try using lead as a sound insulator. This sheets are used to soundproof recording studios, or so I was told many years ago.
You've got a new subscriber ! NICE JOB ! I LIKE IT !! Now to go hunt through my scraps to build my own !! LOL !! Maybe add an air intake directly over the motor for cooling ?? THANKS AGAIN !!
I was thinking the same think but then the heat problem came to my mind. You cant really do much about it. Sound means air. The slightest opening will produce sound.
Is that a Husky vacuum ? Because the one i have is so dam loud i relegated it to the garage outside strictly for cleaning the cars its freakin ear piercing !!! Bought a ridgid and a muffler made a cart good to go !!! Thanks good video!!!!!
It’s a Ridgid from Home Depot. It’s loud but it’s actually a bit quieter than the craftsman I had. I hate all of them really but they are good at what they do. 😬
The foam on the inside of the box did nothing for you. Most of the sound improvements you're getting is from the plywood box itself. When doing something like this it's always wise to test as you go. Start by building the box and then use a meter to see how loud it is. Then try adding some foam. if you really want a quiet things down and block the sound you want to use mass loaded vinyl.
For the vent for the hot air, has anyone vented their shop vac outside? I'm really thinking about doing that. My shop vac is built into my work bench so it doesn't move around.
in my opinion the difference in sound did not warrent all that6 work, and old towels make a much better sound absorber that the less dense 1/" foam, easy made but not much difference in the dcbls or am I having hearing difficulty
I would agree if I was to build this only for the sound deafening it would be overkill but I built it with the main goal in mind to hold the vac and the dust deputy in a mobile cart. The sound deadening was just an optional upgrade. 👍🏼
Completely agree. After using for about a year I have modified it a bit to be smaller without the bottom box part. Worked great but wasn’t worth the extra size and weight.
It's not that much quieter.... not worth the time and effort.... it would be better in a box outside and connected to a manifold inside through a hole in the wall
It did change everything in loudness obviously. What bother me is however that the vac itself might need ventilation when using continuously for quite a period of time. Or I may be wrong.
No, you are very correct. I am actually going to do a follow up video to this one to show what I had to do after using the cart for a couple weeks. The sound reduction is great but it overheated a couple times. 🤔. Needed more venting.
isolate exhaust air, they're added heat recirculating inside before exiting box
Arkangelsk Lucifer that’s a very good point. I should have thought to hook the exhaust directly into the baffles I made in order to prevent heat recirculating. 👍🏼
SquareSplinter Hope your next upgrade/adjustment will improve the performance. 👍🏼
Arkangelsk Lucifer thank you. 👍🏼
Great idea for making something that looks factory finished. Thanks for putting this up.
TY for making. Before watching this I was thinking of making a 3 sided one with the opening away from me which I thought would lower noise and not over heat. That might not do much.
Oh man, fancy!! I love it. Effective, sleek, and functional. Exactly what I’m looking for. TFS ✌🏼
Nice build. Great end result. I need same for my shop vac. Thanks for the ideas!!
Well done ... the project came out surprisingly effective. Most digital phones do have dB meter apps available for them that if nothing else should give you a good reference point and delta between the two. The one I use on my iPhone was totally free and is reasonably accurate. Cheers!
Thank you ! 🍻
Ha I've been thinking about making a vacuum / dust collection cart exactly like this
I hadn't considered adding sound damping, that is a nice touch. Good job and great idea
De lo MEJOR que he visto en RUclips para insonorizar.
Supongo...no lo he visto , que en la base (abajo) tendrá una entrada de aire para el motor.
( a ser posible, también insonorizada)
La salida del aire refrigerado muy, muy...correcta.
Gracias por el video.
Un saludo.
I made something similar, but opted against foam sound baffling. Surplus fiberglass furnace filters defined the size, as they were slotted in as the left and right side walls to offer large air outlets. Perfect size for the shop-vac, and they provide an additional air filter stage. Tests with a smartphone sound level app showed a noise drop of ~7dB IIRC. Not bad. Perhaps you could append a sound level app test for your video. (Yes, you DO have a sound meter if you have a smartphone) A few other notes. 1) To secure the bucket to the top, I simply screwed another bucket to the top which acts as a bucket holder that nests the dust bucket; no convoluted wooden frame. This makes it super easy to take the dust bucket out and is very stable because the dust bucket is firmly held almost the top by the other bucket. It's like the buckets were designed to stack in each other ;). Finally, there is alot of heat build-up in the cabinet. Your design is even more air tight than mine so it will seal in even more heat. This will likely have a bad effect on the motor. :( Even with the 2 air filter sidewalls, my system gets too toasty for my liking and I need to remember not to run it too long. I'm using a basic iVac switch which means that my corded saws don't run long, but using a sander will have an uncomfortably long run time.
It’s funny you bring up the draws in heat. I am getting ready to release an update video about this cart. SPOILER ALERT* it definitely had a heat issue. 😬
This is a very cool idea. It seems like it made a big difference. Nice work. 👍
It did make a big difference. Hard to convey that on video very well but either way, I have used it a lot already. 👊
Than you for picking out my next project!
You bet! Be sure and watch my update video on this project coming out in a couple days. Important details about heat buildup and stuff. 👍🏼
Ridgid vacuums are much quieter than others I’ve found.
The new Ridgid one I bought is a great vacuum too. Very sucky!
Nice job. Going to take a few ideas.
Very nice!
Two Ideas to add to your project:
1. Add an auto switch to the powerbox. This way, you can turn the switch on, plug in the tool you want to use with the vacuum and the vacuum will automatically turn on when the tool turns on. You can also get ones with a delay so the shop vac runs for 5 secs to collect the remaining dust once the tool powers down. You can also get one with an over-ride if your wanting to connect the hose to suck up dust on the floor like a regular vacuum.
2. Build a manifold for the hose connections. I built one so I can have a 2 1/2 inch and 1 3/4 inch hose that I can connect and simply unplug and close off the hose I'm not using for maximum vacuum. The manifold also has a bypass valve to reduce the strain on the shop vac when running the smaller hose as the smaller hose and it's length puts extra stress on the shop vac, which raises the temp inside the box which will kill the shop vac quickly and cause concern with a fire starting if anything inside gets too hot.
WIth regards to point 1, I built my own auto switch that detects the tool running, turns the shop vac on and powers the shop vac down after 5 secs when the tool turns off. I also have the same auto switch system monitoring the internal temp. of the box so if the shop vac creates too much heat from extended run time or a blockage from the filter or the dust deputy bin filling to max, the auto switch turns off the shop vac and the tool as a safety measure. You will know that either the temp was too high in the box from the stress on the shop vac, or your filter/dust deputy collection container needs cleaning/emptying.
Nice job by the way.
I REALLY need an auto switch for sure. I will probably just buy one as the videos I have watched to make one just aren’t super clear to me. Having a temp sensor is an awesome idea for sure. As far as different sized ports I really only use the bigger hose and if not I just have a reducer to go on the end of my 2 1/2” hose. Great Inout though! Thank you. 🙏🏼🍻
Great job! It is much quieter! 😊
are you sure the difference warrented all that work?
Nice work!
Thank you! I have a lot more videos coming out soon.
What was going on with all of the sawdust in front of the vac when you opened the door? Are you like me, and have gotten lazy about emptying the bucket, lol? I made a "closet" off the back of my shop to house the new 2.5 hp dust collection unit and the compressor. Not only for the noise aspect but space as well. My shop is only 16'x10', but when I built the closet I made it so I can expand the back wall another 6' to match it. The "6 hp" motor on the shop vac I was using for the shop, just didn't keep up well enough for more than one machine. I think a lot of people expect the machine to handle it all but the 6 hp motor is rated that with nothing on it. no filter, hose, or base. Even then they are not strong enough for machines like a jointer or planer. That number is very misleading. I'm waiting to attach 4" piping when the addition is completed but I still have a hose I use with it>
Good job! You'll fix the overheating.
thank you....i actually tore this cart apart a while back due to it being just too heavy to pull around the shop. The sound deadening worked great but the excess weight I didnt like.
You can add a decibel meter app to your phone. I use one at work frequently. Good video , Thanks.
Thank you. I actually was going to do that and forgot about it by the time I had finished the video. Thanks for the tip though! 👍🏼
I do like the build and I don't mean to come off so arrogant, but not everybody has shop space to drag around a 1973 VW Beetle behind them!! Like I say I DO love the build and it gives me a lot of great ideas!! BUT in my shop, it would almost be far easier to build a "stationary version" of your box, and then connect it to a central vac system with blast gates and a dedicated vacuum system at its core!! My shop after all is only currently 8 feet by 8 feet in total so there isn't a ton of room to have something this large dragging around behind me in!!
Watch my follow up video I am releasing tomorrow. I now feel the EXACT same way. I haven’t moved mine around much at all since building it. Thanks for watching!
Very nice job I had built mine almost the same as yours but I ended running a exhaust pipe out the side and a vent plate on top to let out the heat because my vac over heated now works great
Good idea on the vent, I also had to modify mine for heat. I need to make a follow up video to this. 👍🏼. Thank you!
FYI - you can download a basic decibel meter app for your phone.
Yeah I probably should have done that for a more accurate comparison. Love and learn I guess. 👊
Great! Should try acoustic foam in there next. 😄
Great idea but I didn’t have any. I just had that old mattress cover. 👍🏼
thanks.
Excellent video and process Thanks for sharing
Thank you 🙏🏼
Impressive. If you make another one, try using lead as a sound insulator. This sheets are used to soundproof recording studios, or so I was told many years ago.
You've got a new subscriber ! NICE JOB ! I LIKE IT !! Now to go hunt through my scraps to build my own !! LOL !! Maybe add an air intake directly over the motor for cooling ?? THANKS AGAIN !!
Thanks for the sub! And yes, please add an air vent for cooling. It really needs it
Well done!
Thank you.
I was thinking the same think but then the heat problem came to my mind. You cant really do much about it. Sound means air. The slightest opening will produce sound.
NIce job,that really did make a difference👌
Thank you! Other than being a bit of a bulky cart it is really handy.
. Nice! Been thinking about making mine... 4 shop vacs LOL trying to decide which to use!
I actually just switched mine to Rigid. It’s been great so far.
Very pro work especially the vinyl wrap. LS cheers
“Pro” is a strong word but THANK YOU! 😬
Decibel recording would help
You are correct, I should have at least done a decibel app on my phone.
Great job!
Thanks so much !
Umm... I think it would be best to wear ear protection rather than overheat the vacuum. No?
I agree. I have since torn this cart apart and reused the materials for other things. its turned out just a bit heavy for everyday use.
would a cheap car muffler work to cut the exhaust noise?
Is that a Husky vacuum ? Because the one i have is so dam loud i relegated it to the garage outside strictly for cleaning the cars its freakin ear piercing !!! Bought a ridgid and a muffler made a cart good to go !!! Thanks good video!!!!!
It’s a Ridgid from Home Depot. It’s loud but it’s actually a bit quieter than the craftsman I had. I hate all of them really but they are good at what they do. 😬
Great video. New subscriber. Looking forward to the modification to the dust deputy cart. I need to make one of those.
Subscribed..... More projects please. You do good work.
Thank you so much! Really appreciate the support. Do you typically like shop projects or just unique projects in general?
@@SquareSplinter Well if I had the means .... I'd love to do both unique and shop projects. ATM live vicariously through other people! 😊
The foam on the inside of the box did nothing for you. Most of the sound improvements you're getting is from the plywood box itself. When doing something like this it's always wise to test as you go. Start by building the box and then use a meter to see how loud it is. Then try adding some foam. if you really want a quiet things down and block the sound you want to use mass loaded vinyl.
DIY Audio Guy so show us yours
Great job! Do you think the vacuum will overheat inside the enclosure? Thanks for sharing.
It’s definitely a possibility. I have an update video coming out in a couple days about it. 👍🏼
Very comprehensive video and a good job. Or, get a .25¢ pair of foam earplugs. (shrug)
For the vent for the hot air, has anyone vented their shop vac outside? I'm really thinking about doing that. My shop vac is built into my work bench so it doesn't move around.
I think that would be a great idea if it’s easy to get through your wall. I used to vent my dust collector outside on the summer. Was WAY easier.
in my opinion the difference in sound did not warrent all that6 work, and old towels make a much better sound absorber that the less dense 1/" foam, easy made but not much difference in the dcbls or am I having hearing difficulty
I would agree if I was to build this only for the sound deafening it would be overkill but I built it with the main goal in mind to hold the vac and the dust deputy in a mobile cart. The sound deadening was just an optional upgrade. 👍🏼
there is an extremely loud hum in your video around the 7min mark
Summary: build a cabinet with a wooden car muffler.
That is a pretty good summary. 👍🏼
Lol
Way too big
Completely agree. After using for about a year I have modified it a bit to be smaller without the bottom box part. Worked great but wasn’t worth the extra size and weight.
It's not that much quieter.... not worth the time and effort.... it would be better in a box outside and connected to a manifold inside through a hole in the wall