Alpha Dragon, once the Hardest Ark Boss, now reduced to a 440 Element farm with a single Deino. ALSO, it unlocks the same engrams as Island's Alpha Dragon. 🙂
With this video, I have THUS Beaten Alpha Dragon with 4 different Dino Armies: Deino, Therizino, Shadowmane & Rex (all videos exist on my channel) . I may attempt with other armies too in near future.
Thank You. I'm building a museum & thus getting dermis for each & every creature is essential. I've seen people fight with 1 Deino with Ungodly stats like 17k hp 1500% melee & that's never possible for me. SO I took a chance with my own Deino & Milk and it paid off so decided to showcase it here, others will find this method very helpful.
You're welcome, I recommend the best saddle you have, PTs & Dimos hit really hard. Farming for Deinos is easier in Fjordur than Val since they are concentrated in a smaller area.
@@anthonyjobey8821 Thank you for the Lovely comment. It's also a David vs Goliath battle, when a Deino which can camp inside the Dragon's mouth can kill it without breaking a sweat, well Dinos couldn't sweat either LOL !!!
This video needs to blow up. You did not even use those super mutated Deinonychus people make videos on YT with those 20k hp and 2k melee. This is very doable and you were perfect with your explanation, usage of wyvern milk and planning. Thanks a bunch.
Using super mutated dinos is more like showing off, one can just alter the settings & increase hp. For a guide to work, it has to cater to the majority audience & thats what I try to do all the time.
i'm actually breeding deinos right now, up to 2 melee mutation atm. got increased breeding [related] world settings boosts because i'm playing solo. thanks for the video. very concise. hi5!
Thanks, for Deinos I recommend getting HP mutations more than melee since after 600^ melee, the bleeds wont increase anymore but survivability is important.
Incredible job, you have been making consistently good videos for a very long time. I am so glad I noticed you early on. You may be the first on youtube to get to level 190 and unlock mjolnir legit.
Haha what. I'd heard deinos were good for this sort of thing, but I didn't expect to see something like this. I got here from your 'alpha rockwell on foot' video. Evidently you are very good at killing bosses!
Its taken me 7 years of experience & for season 2, beating all 11 maps previously to come here. Boss killing kinda becomes muscle memory LOL. I'm still hunting for the day I could show myself beating any boss on foot minus any dinos.
Thank you for making these Videos you helped me alot! Also, apparently you can use the Desmodus in the Tek Cave ( worked in Singleplayer, Cave Flyers Disabled) gonna try it out today and update ( Tried it on a Server with Cave Flyers also disabled and it worked, its insane)
Wow that is an amazing revelation. Thank You so much. Using Desmodus in the Tek Cave makes the Tek Cave a short trip to the Terminal, where you an cryo it inside. I would love to see your run on that. Also you're welcome, I'm glad I could share my Ark Journey with the community & help them out too.
Precisely. You also collect those Runestones & use their XP bonus to level up your Dinos while hunting for Dino Trophies for this Fight. A Well Oiled Machine, that's what I call it.
i did some testing on this with official setting awhile back and found out that if you have 600+ melee and 8k stamina , you can latch on to the back of the dragon and attack. it will not be able to hit you and it will die before you run out of stamina. if you latch onto its face it will be able to bite you thru the mount so make sure your latched onto its rear. if you cant get 8k stamina then you can just latch onto its rear a few times and that will work also, just make sure you unlatch before you run out of stamina so you can run if you need to
Very Interesting Thanks for letting us know. Since Deino bleed is % based, 8K stamina can get us through the Crystal Wyvern Queen & Manticore bosses too by latching on at their back. All 3 of these bosses have only a Frontal AOE.
@@Arindam_Gaming it works great on the manticore but when i tried it on the crystal isle boss and i could not latch onto the wyvern. not sure if that has changed as its been about 2 years.youll need a good shot gun or assault rifle for the crystal wyvern because it wont land at the end which makes it harder to kill
@@maxdamage4259 Not necessary. Here's how I beat Alpha Crystal Wyvern Queen on Official Difficulty with Tiny Rex/Deino Strike Force: ruclips.net/video/clYp8joEaE0/видео.html
@@basfein482 If it dies & somehow its body glitches in Air & does not fall, then no problem since Boss rewards are directly put inside my own inventory. It may be a problem though if not solo since you need to collect it manually, maybe one could carry a Sino into boss battle & fly towards it. Sino is allowed in boss fights AFAIK.
I was in the same boat when I did it 1st time, repeated the process a couple of times to be sure it wasn't a one-hit-wonder. But yeah, its reliable & repeatable.
I love this a lot, but it got me thinking, what about a thylacoleo? They do more bleed damage so wouldn't they he even faster than dienos? Or would the dragon hit thylas?
NO. Thyla Bleed does not work vs Bosses similar to Allo/Carno. ONLY Deino Bleed works vs bosses, that is its USP Thyla bleed is invaluable against Genesis Brutes though.
I'm not sure about loot tables on Fjordur but I did get 2 saddle BPs from the Fjordur caves, one being the Bearcave you mentioned & the other possibly the swamp cave. Based on my knowledge, Deino saddle & BPs are confirmed drops on Valguero's orbital drops in the 3 western biomes (Arctic, Tundra, Redwood). The ascendant saddle I'm using in the video is what I've gotten from Val.
Sorry but can I ask you a question? i bred deino on our server with hp 254 and dmg254 and my deino has melee index 1941.6%. With that stat, can it deal more damage than 600% damage? or similar. I couldn't watch your video when breeding deino. Hope you can explain it to me so I can understand clearly. thank you very much
Bleed dmg is fixed to max 600% but non bleed dmg you can keep as much as possible. Since Deino bleed is what actually gives those crazy dps nos, its better to halt at 600% dmg & invest other points in hp.
@@Arindam_Gaming Thank you very much. I still have a question, is it possible for me to increase the damage to about 20 deinos to fight bosses of other maps, or is it really strong only when we ride it?
thanks for a great video. question. we tamed 308 melee deinos. server settings doesnt allow us to imprint. so we are looking at a bit over 450% at fully leveled deinos. i have 130 saddles and there is two of us in a tribe. so, should we go just with deinos, or should we try to take 5,6 magmas and rest of deinos, or just army of deinos? Thanks (magmas also not mutated just some decent eggs and imprinted with not so amazing saddles)
My strategy works perfectly with 1 Deino but can be tweaked for max 2 Deinos (make sure they are mate boosted). For a pair of Deinos, both of you should attack the same Feet I was attacking (not the other feet since Dragon will try to move, encircle etc). This works since even 2 Deinos combined will have a hitbox too small a area for Dragon. IF you take the Magmasaur appoach, take a few, keep them as static emplacements. Only when Dragon aggros to them & starts attacking, take ridden only Deinos from back & attack it. I wouldn't recommend unridden Deinos, even an army of it. Dragon may simply walk over them. In my Shadowmane vs Dragon video, I was able to box dragon & easily win the fight, Deinos may not be so easy to box. Conclusion: Take Mate boosted 2 Deinos, attack same feet (Dragon's Left feet), take out Dimorphs completely before engaging Dragon.
You can use Magmasaur to distract Dragon while your Deino can attack from behind. Rex is not fire breath immune so dont use it. Multiple people will cause more targets for Dragon & thus it will move erratically, hence not suitable for my strategy.
Hi you think i can do dragon and manticore alpha with 1 yuti 15 khp and 19 deinonychuses all between 8 and 12 k hp and 2500 2700 meele damage but prim saddle on official?
So im just curious, but im seeing back and forth between deinonychus bleed doing % of max health and % of its own damage, people sayibg its been nerfed and some saying it hasnt, does anyone have a clue??
Its not nerfed at all. I actually took out Island Dragon a couple of weeks ago (no vid though) & they played out exactly same with my Deino. Once ARK Ascended releases, I'll remake ALL of my guides for ALL maps there. :)
Hoping you can help me I’ve been trying to figure out what points into weight on my Deinonychus line. Should I try to get 0 points into weight like I would movement speed?
Simply level Deinos on health & melee. For Melee, 600% is a threshold beyond which bleed stacks don't do any more dmg & its normal dmg is small. So after that invest in health. Initially, level up your Deino to 3k hp & 300% melee then to 6k & 600% afterward put into health only. A mutated deino with 10-15k hp & 600% melee is GODly.
I’ve been breeding like crazy. The points I have are 40hp 28stam 27melee 0 oxygen 0 weight and 0 movement speed. I also have the opposite gender with 17 in weight. Should I use the stats with 17 in weight? I feel like they would get over encumbered during a boss if I use 0 but I don’t know. Deinonychuses by the way. Once I know I can get the pair I need and start mutations. Thank you.
Thank You for confirming my strategy (with your timestamp too). YT didn't give me Notification for both your Initial comment & reply, luckily I found it from YT Studio. I always reply to comments so it bothers me when I miss helping out answering a query.
Thanks, I always keep a 20-30% insurance buffer before showing a strategy or doing a fight. After beating 11 maps, I dont find anything scary that Ark throws at me. practice has made most things 2nd nature.
@@jeffkline5194 Honestly the Dimos & Pts hit really really hard & I've died way too many times on Island map to their nibbling. Dimos are also hard to hit with Rex/Theri/Yuty, the Deino I found was more successful at hitting them.
@@Arindam_Gaming I took 6 allos with me last night to keep agro of those while.i.focused on dragon. Worked out great even though towards the end I had the allos attack dragon also and lost them all. First time lost due to dimos killing me and only using a deino
@@Arindam_Gaming yeah i did all the alphas a couple times on offical this way and other 2 i just safe spoted etc most likely doing the final boss on alpha this week as i want a max cryopod
@@Mimsy_Crush Good luck. Fenrisulfr Alpha boss maybe the hardest Boss on Ark after Alpha King Titan. 1.2M hp !!! Let me know how it goes. What army are you using ?
Funny story, I watched this video yesterday looking to see how good deinonychus are, or else I was going to use magmasaurs, then today I killed beyla and received an ascendant deinonychus saddle blueprint with 84.4 armour, what luck, I know now what dino I'll be using
I'm glad Lady Luck & ARK RNG God gave you that saddle, now show that Dragon who's the real Alpha. In seriousness, Magmasaurs are great for the Dragon just that its so big so you can take only a few.
I got 2 Deino saddles on the map, both from Red Artifact Cave loot crates. It can also spawn randomly in Red Orbitals Drops. If you have valguero map in server cluster, they spawn more frequently there which is Deino's native map.
I did it yesterday too since I use it for farming element, at Steam v348. No deviations from this video. Nothing in the recent patch notes made any alterations to these boss fights.
I'm not sure about loot tables on Fjordur but I did get 2 saddle BPs from the Fjordur caves, one being the Bearcave you mentioned & the other possibly the swamp cave. Based on my knowledge, Deino saddle & BPs are confirmed drops on Valguero's orbital drops in the 3 western biomes (Arctic, Tundra, Redwood). The ascendant saddle I'm using in the video is what I've gotten from Val.
WC coded the Deinonychus to not have any more bleed dmg after 600%. After 600%, its regular dmg will increase though but that's miniscule if you are using Deino against high HP enemies.
Still insane to me how a single Deinonychus can so easily neuter arguably the hardest boss in the whole game. Its cool to see, but it just completely takes away the build-up and challenge imposed by the Dragon. I think it would be a lot more balanced if the Deino's bleed did damage based on their own attack power instead of the enemy's health, so that it wouldn't make easy work of a boss with literally 1 million HP.
I remember back in 2017, how OP Alpha Dragon felt & mostly people thought it either impossible solo or needing op mutated dinos. The Deino is a glass cannon but whose only con (low hp) is nullified by the fact the Dragon cannot even hit it while on left leg. WIsh there was some clever way like this to do Genesis Alpha Gauntlets, they are IMO impossible solo or even with 2-3 people.
Thanks @Miguel Guerrero for answering his query. Wish YT gave me notification for comments asking me a proper question. Hate to find it after 2 weeks from casual browsing my vids.
I just tried this as well and I get meleed by the dragon no matter where I stand around its left foot. Worked like a charm for one ground phase but on the second one I ran out of health (6,6k) because it hit me despite standing at the foot. Might be that you have to find a sweetspot on it so it doesn't detect you but it sure is finicky in that case :D
YES. On official, you'll get a 15 mins timer, we are completing well before that. All else is same. I used the game.ini checks to ensure Dragon has same effective melee & hp as on Official, wouldn't matter either way since Dragon isn't hitting Deino & Deino's % based dmg would still negate any hp boosts.
Was it the PTs and dimorphs that killed you, or the dragon itself. Also what were their hp and melee stats if you don't mind. I think 3 deinons is advised usually due to mate boost and pack bonus.
The Mob of PT & Dimorphs are the real threat & can whittle down HP very fast of the rider too. I dont ever recall my Deinos every getting stomped by Dragon & I have imitated this tactic on Island Dragon too.
For Alpha, your Deino saddle &*/or Deino HP should be really good. Dimorphs are a bigger threat than the Dragon & can shred player quickly so have really good Flak or even Riot, for which bring a Otter for insulation.
No, not patched, you're good to go. It's a Deinonychus Feature & not a bug. And devs have already made the last update for ARK & after it, it's still working now.
Not at all. It got hit more than once with the fire breath, thats over 40% hp lost there itself. My Deino would be toast without it. The Fire breath will damage me too but I was mostly unscathed.
@@Arindam_Gaming Well maybe it does work on your custom server, i see you have floating damage but you should also note the damage dealt and damage received by dragon will never be the same as official even if you put the settings the same, the boss has different modifiers for official vs non official which cannot be changed. But the wyvern milk does not work on dinos anymore on official, i know this because we use to use milk on our rexes back in the day before the deinos were released. It has been changed since and no longer effects them. Edit: also the milk protects you from the Enflamed debuff, and not the fire breath attack itself. You could get hit by the breath and not actually receive the debuff.
I have a video to backup my facts. In general, I don't debate/argue with others without evidence. Also, I feel people are entitled to their opinions & if they are not willing to open their eyes to a fact proving them incorrect, then they are better left to their opinion alone. Thank You.
AFAIK, melee DOES affect Bleed but it caps out at 600% melee. I verified that by testing on 3 separate Deinos of 300%, 600% & a 750% melee (only melee levelled). Deinos Bleed isn't exactly like Allo/Carno/Thyla's bleed which is dependant ONLY on target HP. Using a mate, pack boost + Yuty Courage Roar over the 600% does increase the bleed though which I had done with great success against the Crystal Wyvern Queen Boss & Valguero Bosses.
@@turkee1363 Hi. Deino bleed dmg caps out at 600% melee. It stacks 5 times with the next stack adding slightly more dmg till it caps out, thus the different dmg nos in my video. You'll see there are 2 dmg nos groups on the boss, a 179 (regular Deino dmg) & a 6.5K which is the bleed. This bleed ignores saddle armor but is resisted by innate resistance like that of Steinjborn & Rock Golems. Using Mate/Pack boosts, Yuty Buff will allow one to exceed the 600% cap too. Very importantly, Bleed stacks per target creature & not per Source SO, there will be 5 Deino bleed stacks on Dragon irrespective of how many Deinos are giving the bleed. Hence 1-3 Deino is enough. Lastly, Deino bleed stacks with bleeds of others like Allo/Thyla/Carno. Thats pretty much all about Deino Bleed mate. Thank You.
@@Arindam_Gaming How does the 30% imprinting factor into the bleed damage? Is it additional?. Can you scrap by with slightly less melee on a worse deino?.
@@antoniomirigliani1226 Hi. Deino bleed scales with its melee & is capped at 600% melee. With 30% imprint, factor you can actually go beyond that scale & do slightly more than the capped % damage. Yes, its additional. With less melee, say 300%, you can still beat the boss but I highly recommend having good hp since the Minions do a lot of dmg even with my 100+ armor saddle. And Wyevrn milk IMO is compulsory with Deino's small Hp, last thing you want is to die at the lat 25% of the battle to minions coz you got hit 1 time by a Dragon Enflammed debuff w/o the milk.
BTW Folks Today is my 300th Season 2 video, a season that has spanned all 12 Ark maps. THANK YOU All for your support over the years.
This video checks all boxes to be the ultimate alpha dragon killer guide. You sir are awesome.
Haha many thanks.
Alpha Dragon, once the Hardest Ark Boss, now reduced to a 440 Element farm with a single Deino. ALSO, it unlocks the same engrams as Island's Alpha Dragon. 🙂
With this video, I have THUS Beaten Alpha Dragon with 4 different Dino Armies: Deino, Therizino, Shadowmane & Rex (all videos exist on my channel) . I may attempt with other armies too in near future.
You play on xbox ?
@@Nothinleft4me PC Steam. Also why I dont use mods to help out console players too.
Just heard that it's possible without actually trying myself so thanks for showing it!
Also congrats for getting dermis at the last moment lol
Thank You. I'm building a museum & thus getting dermis for each & every creature is essential. I've seen people fight with 1 Deino with Ungodly stats like 17k hp 1500% melee & that's never possible for me. SO I took a chance with my own Deino & Milk and it paid off so decided to showcase it here, others will find this method very helpful.
Thanks! I have a ton of stored Deinonychus eggs from 135 to 150. Time to breed! Appreciate the video.
You're welcome, I recommend the best saddle you have, PTs & Dimos hit really hard. Farming for Deinos is easier in Fjordur than Val since they are concentrated in a smaller area.
Whats top stat do u know??
Loved the aquiles joke, awesome video and beaultiful deyno, ggs!
Thanks Mate :)
Not going to lie i did laugh out loud when you made that joke, the pause after was golden! Thank you for showing us this! Sub for sure
@@anthonyjobey8821 Thank you for the Lovely comment. It's also a David vs Goliath battle, when a Deino which can camp inside the Dragon's mouth can kill it without breaking a sweat, well Dinos couldn't sweat either LOL !!!
This video needs to blow up. You did not even use those super mutated Deinonychus people make videos on YT with those 20k hp and 2k melee. This is very doable and you were perfect with your explanation, usage of wyvern milk and planning. Thanks a bunch.
Using super mutated dinos is more like showing off, one can just alter the settings & increase hp. For a guide to work, it has to cater to the majority audience & thats what I try to do all the time.
Cough cough teach
@@AlienX281 teach is an ark clown
i'm actually breeding deinos right now, up to 2 melee mutation atm. got increased breeding [related] world settings boosts because i'm playing solo. thanks for the video. very concise. hi5!
Thanks, for Deinos I recommend getting HP mutations more than melee since after 600^ melee, the bleeds wont increase anymore but survivability is important.
That's cool! I managed to pass the alpha dragon in 5 minutes, thank you very much)
Glad I could help and Well Done.
Incredible job, you have been making consistently good videos for a very long time. I am so glad I noticed you early on. You may be the first on youtube to get to level 190 and unlock mjolnir legit.
Mjolnir, Thats the Ultimate Completionist Feat. I am so excited to get there soon. Already at Lv 180 & running through the runes quite fast.
Haha what. I'd heard deinos were good for this sort of thing, but I didn't expect to see something like this. I got here from your 'alpha rockwell on foot' video. Evidently you are very good at killing bosses!
Its taken me 7 years of experience & for season 2, beating all 11 maps previously to come here. Boss killing kinda becomes muscle memory LOL. I'm still hunting for the day I could show myself beating any boss on foot minus any dinos.
Great video, I just came from the beta and gamma video, can't believe how simple it looks. You are the real Ark Chad my Dude.
Now to make myself the Giga Chad with Level 190 in sight.
Thank you for making these Videos you helped me alot!
Also, apparently you can use the Desmodus in the Tek Cave
( worked in Singleplayer, Cave Flyers Disabled) gonna try it out today and update ( Tried it on a Server with Cave Flyers also disabled and it worked, its insane)
Wow that is an amazing revelation. Thank You so much. Using Desmodus in the Tek Cave makes the Tek Cave a short trip to the Terminal, where you an cryo it inside. I would love to see your run on that.
Also you're welcome, I'm glad I could share my Ark Journey with the community & help them out too.
Bleed damage is the key to victory in this fight, and it could be an easy way to farm Element in this game (you got 440x Element from this fight).
Precisely. You also collect those Runestones & use their XP bonus to level up your Dinos while hunting for Dino Trophies for this Fight. A Well Oiled Machine, that's what I call it.
i did some testing on this with official setting awhile back and found out that if you have 600+ melee and 8k stamina , you can latch on to the back of the dragon and attack. it will not be able to hit you and it will die before you run out of stamina. if you latch onto its face it will be able to bite you thru the mount so make sure your latched onto its rear. if you cant get 8k stamina then you can just latch onto its rear a few times and that will work also, just make sure you unlatch before you run out of stamina so you can run if you need to
Very Interesting Thanks for letting us know. Since Deino bleed is % based, 8K stamina can get us through the Crystal Wyvern Queen & Manticore bosses too by latching on at their back. All 3 of these bosses have only a Frontal AOE.
@@Arindam_Gaming it works great on the manticore but when i tried it on the crystal isle boss and i could not latch onto the wyvern. not sure if that has changed as its been about 2 years.youll need a good shot gun or assault rifle for the crystal wyvern because it wont land at the end which makes it harder to kill
@@maxdamage4259 Not necessary. Here's how I beat Alpha Crystal Wyvern Queen on Official Difficulty with Tiny Rex/Deino Strike Force: ruclips.net/video/clYp8joEaE0/видео.html
If it died in the air do you risk it's body/bag staying in the air though?
@@basfein482 If it dies & somehow its body glitches in Air & does not fall, then no problem since Boss rewards are directly put inside my own inventory. It may be a problem though if not solo since you need to collect it manually, maybe one could carry a Sino into boss battle & fly towards it. Sino is allowed in boss fights AFAIK.
Bro you re a genius !
Thanks, hoping to make better vids once ARK Ascended releases.
@@Arindam_Gaming man im excited! One year later and you are still here 🫡.
@@feelingnether158 I'm super pumped for ASA, if its required, I'll upgrade my GPU. Can't wait for the trailer reveal.
-attacks foot-"This is the Dragon's Achilles Heels"
Shame on you..... Have my upvote.
Hah Hah Thanks.
nice boots skin! they almost look like hide boots with a slight ghillie skin
Yeah, on every map, I try out a new dress or dress skin. I love the variety these skins bring to the appearance.
Never would have believed if I hadn't seen it.
I was in the same boat when I did it 1st time, repeated the process a couple of times to be sure it wasn't a one-hit-wonder. But yeah, its reliable & repeatable.
Awesome job, ty so much for sharing... as always.
Thank You, Glad to help out.
ur the KING great job bro!
Haha Thanks mate.
I love this a lot, but it got me thinking, what about a thylacoleo? They do more bleed damage so wouldn't they he even faster than dienos? Or would the dragon hit thylas?
NO. Thyla Bleed does not work vs Bosses similar to Allo/Carno. ONLY Deino Bleed works vs bosses, that is its USP Thyla bleed is invaluable against Genesis Brutes though.
@@Arindam_Gaming ahhh alright, I never actually tried to boss with a thyla but that does actually make sense that they'd nerf it. Alright thanks
Tested and worked! Also you can bring some meat to heal Deinos HP
Thanks for Validating my video. And Yes with the Deino's small HP, raw meat can heal up a decent % of HP bar.
5:27 what a reference arindam 😅
Thanks, I have read the Odyssey so I knew that was my Paris of troy moment.
oh nice, well done !
is this still a Thing or they reduced the DPS from Deinons in here ?
Thanks, no DPS reduction happened for Deino, its still exactly the same.
@@Arindam_Gaming thank you. ill go on that soonTM
@@extbr3akz Nice, let me know how it goes for you. Best of Luck.
Just realized the dragons arena is reminiscent of the black gate in lord of the rings.
Yup, this map's full of LOTR references.
Hello Arindam, if i want to grind for deino saddles, would any cave on fjrodur do fine? I maybe thought about the bearcave at the north redwoods.
I'm not sure about loot tables on Fjordur but I did get 2 saddle BPs from the Fjordur caves, one being the Bearcave you mentioned & the other possibly the swamp cave. Based on my knowledge, Deino saddle & BPs are confirmed drops on Valguero's orbital drops in the 3 western biomes (Arctic, Tundra, Redwood). The ascendant saddle I'm using in the video is what I've gotten from Val.
@@Arindam_Gaming Thxx for the answer :)
Sorry but can I ask you a question? i bred deino on our server with hp 254 and dmg254 and my deino has melee index 1941.6%. With that stat, can it deal more damage than 600% damage? or similar. I couldn't watch your video when breeding deino. Hope you can explain it to me so I can understand clearly. thank you very much
Bleed dmg is fixed to max 600% but non bleed dmg you can keep as much as possible. Since Deino bleed is what actually gives those crazy dps nos, its better to halt at 600% dmg & invest other points in hp.
@@Arindam_Gaming Thank you very much. I still have a question, is it possible for me to increase the damage to about 20 deinos to fight bosses of other maps, or is it really strong only when we ride it?
thanks for a great video. question. we tamed 308 melee deinos. server settings doesnt allow us to imprint. so we are looking at a bit over 450% at fully leveled deinos. i have 130 saddles and there is two of us in a tribe. so, should we go just with deinos, or should we try to take 5,6 magmas and rest of deinos, or just army of deinos? Thanks (magmas also not mutated just some decent eggs and imprinted with not so amazing saddles)
My strategy works perfectly with 1 Deino but can be tweaked for max 2 Deinos (make sure they are mate boosted). For a pair of Deinos, both of you should attack the same Feet I was attacking (not the other feet since Dragon will try to move, encircle etc). This works since even 2 Deinos combined will have a hitbox too small a area for Dragon. IF you take the Magmasaur appoach, take a few, keep them as static emplacements. Only when Dragon aggros to them & starts attacking, take ridden only Deinos from back & attack it. I wouldn't recommend unridden Deinos, even an army of it. Dragon may simply walk over them. In my Shadowmane vs Dragon video, I was able to box dragon & easily win the fight, Deinos may not be so easy to box.
Conclusion: Take Mate boosted 2 Deinos, attack same feet (Dragon's Left feet), take out Dimorphs completely before engaging Dragon.
Awesome and very informative video! Do you know if you can get Deino saddle bps on this map?
Yes, Till today, I have gotten 2 Deino saddles on this map, both from artifact cave loot Crates of the Yellow/Red type.
does this work if i bring multiple people? or should i bring a rex/magmasaur to distract it?
You can use Magmasaur to distract Dragon while your Deino can attack from behind. Rex is not fire breath immune so dont use it. Multiple people will cause more targets for Dragon & thus it will move erratically, hence not suitable for my strategy.
@@Arindam_Gaming how much health should the magmasaur have do you think?
Hi you think i can do dragon and manticore alpha with 1 yuti 15 khp and 19 deinonychuses all between 8 and 12 k hp and 2500 2700 meele damage but prim saddle on official?
On Alpha Official, prim saddles are a NO NO. Deino is specialized for 1-2 dino strikes with bleed & not as a mass 19-20 army strong.
Otter stats? Great video
X-Otter Melee = >700% (which affects insulation), if I remember correctly. Thank You.
How many points does your deinos have in each stat and in what did you level it?
Deinos I bred in Val last year, forgot stat point allocation. I put levels into melee till near 600% then rest into hp.
@@Arindam_Gaming Do you know the base stats before you leveled it because then I could look it up on dododex? (e.g. 2k health 300% melee)
Such a clever strat! TY!
You're Welcome Mate
So im just curious, but im seeing back and forth between deinonychus bleed doing % of max health and % of its own damage, people sayibg its been nerfed and some saying it hasnt, does anyone have a clue??
Its not nerfed at all. I actually took out Island Dragon a couple of weeks ago (no vid though) & they played out exactly same with my Deino. Once ARK Ascended releases, I'll remake ALL of my guides for ALL maps there. :)
Hoping you can help me I’ve been trying to figure out what points into weight on my Deinonychus line. Should I try to get 0 points into weight like I would movement speed?
Simply level Deinos on health & melee. For Melee, 600% is a threshold beyond which bleed stacks don't do any more dmg & its normal dmg is small. So after that invest in health. Initially, level up your Deino to 3k hp & 300% melee then to 6k & 600% afterward put into health only. A mutated deino with 10-15k hp & 600% melee is GODly.
@@Arindam_Gaming amazing! Thank you for the great response this helps a lot
@@dbushybearded2813 You are welcome. If you have any queries, feel free to post in any of my videos anywhere, I'll usually answer within 12 hrs.
@@Arindam_Gaming 🤘🏼 you’re awesome
I’ve been breeding like crazy. The points I have are 40hp 28stam 27melee 0 oxygen 0 weight and 0 movement speed. I also have the opposite gender with 17 in weight. Should I use the stats with 17 in weight? I feel like they would get over encumbered during a boss if I use 0 but I don’t know. Deinonychuses by the way. Once I know I can get the pair I need and start mutations. Thank you.
Can anyone confirm if this still works?
Decided to test it out anyway, still work as of 02-22-2023. Took me 5min to kill with a 8k health, 800% melee Deinonychus.
Thank You for confirming my strategy (with your timestamp too). YT didn't give me Notification for both your Initial comment & reply, luckily I found it from YT Studio. I always reply to comments so it bothers me when I miss helping out answering a query.
Great strat, I’d definitely be too scared I’d mess something up lol
Thanks, I always keep a 20-30% insurance buffer before showing a strategy or doing a fight. After beating 11 maps, I dont find anything scary that Ark throws at me. practice has made most things 2nd nature.
U just have to worry about the shit that comes during the fight. Aka those Lil annoying fliers that can hit u while on ur mount
@@jeffkline5194 Honestly the Dimos & Pts hit really really hard & I've died way too many times on Island map to their nibbling. Dimos are also hard to hit with Rex/Theri/Yuty, the Deino I found was more successful at hitting them.
@@Arindam_Gaming I took 6 allos with me last night to keep agro of those while.i.focused on dragon. Worked out great even though towards the end I had the allos attack dragon also and lost them all. First time lost due to dimos killing me and only using a deino
Where u find deinon saddle bp. I never seem to find any.
Fjordur Caves are good locations. I found several there.
wyvern milk is a big key to this fight i forgot it stops the burn tbh
YES, I would recommend it. No point going semi-prepared to Alpha Dragon & lose dino(s) you have been raising & levelling for dozens of hrs right !!!
@@Arindam_Gaming yeah i did all the alphas a couple times on offical this way and other 2 i just safe spoted etc most likely doing the final boss on alpha this week as i want a max cryopod
@@Mimsy_Crush Good luck. Fenrisulfr Alpha boss maybe the hardest Boss on Ark after Alpha King Titan. 1.2M hp !!! Let me know how it goes. What army are you using ?
Funny story, I watched this video yesterday looking to see how good deinonychus are, or else I was going to use magmasaurs, then today I killed beyla and received an ascendant deinonychus saddle blueprint with 84.4 armour, what luck, I know now what dino I'll be using
I'm glad Lady Luck & ARK RNG God gave you that saddle, now show that Dragon who's the real Alpha. In seriousness, Magmasaurs are great for the Dragon just that its so big so you can take only a few.
Do you know where to farm deino saddle?
I got 2 Deino saddles on the map, both from Red Artifact Cave loot crates. It can also spawn randomly in Red Orbitals Drops. If you have valguero map in server cluster, they spawn more frequently there which is Deino's native map.
Just wondering if this still works after the recent update.
I did it yesterday too since I use it for farming element, at Steam v348. No deviations from this video. Nothing in the recent patch notes made any alterations to these boss fights.
@@Arindam_Gaming awesome. Thanks for the video and responding so soon.
Dermis in the last second for the win!
Thank God, "in the nick of time" 😄
does this also work on island alpha dragon?
Yes, exact same strategy can be applied & the Island & Fjordur Dragons are identical in Effective Hp & Dmg.
Where can i find ascend saddle for deino?
I'm not sure about loot tables on Fjordur but I did get 2 saddle BPs from the Fjordur caves, one being the Bearcave you mentioned & the other possibly the swamp cave. Based on my knowledge, Deino saddle & BPs are confirmed drops on Valguero's orbital drops in the 3 western biomes (Arctic, Tundra, Redwood). The ascendant saddle I'm using in the video is what I've gotten from Val.
How come its not worth it to upgrade the damage past 600%?
WC coded the Deinonychus to not have any more bleed dmg after 600%. After 600%, its regular dmg will increase though but that's miniscule if you are using Deino against high HP enemies.
Still insane to me how a single Deinonychus can so easily neuter arguably the hardest boss in the whole game. Its cool to see, but it just completely takes away the build-up and challenge imposed by the Dragon. I think it would be a lot more balanced if the Deino's bleed did damage based on their own attack power instead of the enemy's health, so that it wouldn't make easy work of a boss with literally 1 million HP.
I remember back in 2017, how OP Alpha Dragon felt & mostly people thought it either impossible solo or needing op mutated dinos. The Deino is a glass cannon but whose only con (low hp) is nullified by the fact the Dragon cannot even hit it while on left leg. WIsh there was some clever way like this to do Genesis Alpha Gauntlets, they are IMO impossible solo or even with 2-3 people.
@@Arindam_Gaming 100% true
Where can I tame this creature to use it?
About 4 to 6 nests on fjordour around 44, 74.
@@wosxq thanks!!
Thanks @Miguel Guerrero for answering his query. Wish YT gave me notification for comments asking me a proper question. Hate to find it after 2 weeks from casual browsing my vids.
Idk if this is fixed or if im just a Bob, but actually the dragon hits me and my deino died.
At its left feet where I attack, Dragon AOE does not reach so it must be incorrect positioning or lag that got you.
I just tried this as well and I get meleed by the dragon no matter where I stand around its left foot.
Worked like a charm for one ground phase but on the second one I ran out of health (6,6k) because it hit me despite standing at the foot.
Might be that you have to find a sweetspot on it so it doesn't detect you but it sure is finicky in that case :D
Well done!! **applause**
Thank You 🙂
This the same in official?
YES. On official, you'll get a 15 mins timer, we are completing well before that. All else is same. I used the game.ini checks to ensure Dragon has same effective melee & hp as on Official, wouldn't matter either way since Dragon isn't hitting Deino & Deino's % based dmg would still negate any hp boosts.
tanks dude this helpt lot
My Pleasure
Very good 👍👍👍 thanks 😊
Thank You.
Great video
Tried it with 2 Deinos, max saddle and better mele. Got stomped. It's changed since this video.
Was it the PTs and dimorphs that killed you, or the dragon itself. Also what were their hp and melee stats if you don't mind. I think 3 deinons is advised usually due to mate boost and pack bonus.
@@Adulto357 The dragons minions got us down pretty good...then the dragon did lots of damage standing under it, which I didn't see in this video.
The Mob of PT & Dimorphs are the real threat & can whittle down HP very fast of the rider too. I dont ever recall my Deinos every getting stomped by Dragon & I have imitated this tactic on Island Dragon too.
I failed once with my dein + shadowmane pack, now all I have to do is have a dein as decent as that and a bp.. hope it works
For Alpha, your Deino saddle &*/or Deino HP should be really good. Dimorphs are a bigger threat than the Dragon & can shred player quickly so have really good Flak or even Riot, for which bring a Otter for insulation.
Hello. Is this patched? Wanna try this method.
No, not patched, you're good to go. It's a Deinonychus Feature & not a bug. And devs have already made the last update for ARK & after it, it's still working now.
@@Arindam_Gaming just tried this and defeated dragon easily. Thanks bro
how you got deino sA|ddle Ascendent, i wA|nt one+ oficiA|l server.
Mine was from Valguero, but I did get some good Deino saddles on Fjordur cave drops.
still work on 2023?
Yeah, WC didn't spoil this thankfully.
Does this still work ?
Yes
has anyone tried this strategy on The Island for the alpha dragon?
I tried on Island a month ago, exact same strategy, heck infact same Deino. Just be mindful of taking out the mob & you'll be fine.
Its me or ur wyvern milk didnt change a single thing ur deino still took 20% health and caught on fire
Not at all. It got hit more than once with the fire breath, thats over 40% hp lost there itself. My Deino would be toast without it. The Fire breath will damage me too but I was mostly unscathed.
@@Arindam_Gaming You are incorrect, wyvern milk only gives the buff to players.
@@owaind-g678 My Deino would be toast if it had no Wyevrn Milk buff. Check the video, it gets hit by fire but no % dmg taken.
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Well maybe it does work on your custom server, i see you have floating damage but you should also note the damage dealt and damage received by dragon will never be the same as official even if you put the settings the same, the boss has different modifiers for official vs non official which cannot be changed.
But the wyvern milk does not work on dinos anymore on official, i know this because we use to use milk on our rexes back in the day before the deinos were released. It has been changed since and no longer effects them.
Edit: also the milk protects you from the Enflamed debuff, and not the fire breath attack itself. You could get hit by the breath and not actually receive the debuff.
I did this but the dragon disappeared after he flies off
Then thats yet another in a 1000 page Novel's worth list of bugs the game has courtesy our good friends at WC.
Right you say official server difficulty but that's incorrect. No matter what you do with settings single player bosses are 3x easier.
I have a video to backup my facts. In general, I don't debate/argue with others without evidence. Also, I feel people are entitled to their opinions & if they are not willing to open their eyes to a fact proving them incorrect, then they are better left to their opinion alone. Thank You.
Why upgrade melee and not just hp as melee doesn’t effect bleed damage
AFAIK, melee DOES affect Bleed but it caps out at 600% melee. I verified that by testing on 3 separate Deinos of 300%, 600% & a 750% melee (only melee levelled). Deinos Bleed isn't exactly like Allo/Carno/Thyla's bleed which is dependant ONLY on target HP. Using a mate, pack boost + Yuty Courage Roar over the 600% does increase the bleed though which I had done with great success against the Crystal Wyvern Queen Boss & Valguero Bosses.
@@turkee1363 Hi. Deino bleed dmg caps out at 600% melee. It stacks 5 times with the next stack adding slightly more dmg till it caps out, thus the different dmg nos in my video. You'll see there are 2 dmg nos groups on the boss, a 179 (regular Deino dmg) & a 6.5K which is the bleed. This bleed ignores saddle armor but is resisted by innate resistance like that of Steinjborn & Rock Golems. Using Mate/Pack boosts, Yuty Buff will allow one to exceed the 600% cap too. Very importantly, Bleed stacks per target creature & not per Source SO, there will be 5 Deino bleed stacks on Dragon irrespective of how many Deinos are giving the bleed. Hence 1-3 Deino is enough. Lastly, Deino bleed stacks with bleeds of others like Allo/Thyla/Carno.
Thats pretty much all about Deino Bleed mate.
Thank You.
@@Arindam_Gaming How does the 30% imprinting factor into the bleed damage? Is it additional?. Can you scrap by with slightly less melee on a worse deino?.
@@antoniomirigliani1226 Hi. Deino bleed scales with its melee & is capped at 600% melee. With 30% imprint, factor you can actually go beyond that scale & do slightly more than the capped % damage. Yes, its additional. With less melee, say 300%, you can still beat the boss but I highly recommend having good hp since the Minions do a lot of dmg even with my 100+ armor saddle. And Wyevrn milk IMO is compulsory with Deino's small Hp, last thing you want is to die at the lat 25% of the battle to minions coz you got hit 1 time by a Dragon Enflammed debuff w/o the milk.
@@Arindam_Gaming You truly know your shit. Thank you
This still work?
OH WAIT... gets a dermis
Hey can't blame a man for wanting to skin a fantasy fire breathing beast and take its dermis.
Has anyone tried this method for official alpha ??
It has been tried on Gamma but even I would like to know if success came on Alpha Official.
You should focus on health and dmg
600% melee is all a Deino will need since Bleed caps at that. HP can be improved though.
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Jaw dropping….
Thanks :)
Wow that is insane hahaha
Haha Imagine a little puny Deino clawing & nibbling at the feet of a mighty Dragon & defeating it !! David vs Goliath Ark Edition.
can you die from the dragon landing on you? I was just running around when the dragon landed next to me, 1hitko
I'm not sure what happened with your case but there is no coding for stomping dmg for the Dragon boss.
Outstanding 👍
Thank You :)
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