Many musicians do not like the shrill peaks of most guitar speakers. For these the Jensen Tornado is the best option. It has the most neutral sound and saves you a lot of weight in the cabinet/combo.
Yep the Tornado or the Cannibis Rex for that situation. The Tornado has the benefit of handling twice as much power and being about half the weight of a Cannibis Rex.
Given the limitations of listening to an amplified speaker through your computer's amplified speaker (subject to whatever the internet does to it on the way), this is not really a very good way to audit speakers. You really need to hear them in person. Having said that, this is one of the best online presentations I have seen on the subject: we are hearing the same sample through each speaker so we can actually determine the speakers' relative characteristics. We are not dealing with the distraction of a presenter (who is concentrating on looking good) playing differently through each speaker so we have no idea what is the speaker and what is the player. That is the problem with most of the other videos online. Congratulations @UCGom8O99-aRzQWv1e_CfnvA for doing an excellent job comparing speakers in an objective fashion.This is an actual apples to apples comparison a consumer can actually use.
Watch it without looking at the video screen. The stock Lighting Bolt is actually pretty good, similar to the Jensen but less efficient. The Vintage 30 is good but has some top end fizz, and would likely be better suited for a higher powered amp. The Cannabis Rex has a high-mid frequency roar that I really don't like (louder isn't usually better). The Greenback takes first place, with Sample 2 being the best reference for clean and dirty tones.
This is why we have tone controls on our amps, my stock Fender cab is brighter and my Celestion Greenback cab is darker. love the lightning bolt here thanks for posting this...
Excellent - Excellent demo and very clear what we were hearing and seeing. Like it a lot. Interesting how some were great for a particular type of music being played - none were all around perfect but the Vintage 30 then Greenback then the stock BJR were my favorites.
Really good vid, very informative. I am thinking about changing the celestion in my Fender hot rod for a Jensen Neo and this comparison was very helpful.
I have the V30/G12M/Rex tested them all and liked the Rex the best, and use that one all the time. But in this test it sounded rather dull. Placement of the mic could make a big difference, too much off axis for the Rex (which is fine for bright speakers like the V30). But still very informative and well done! Thanks!
Very good shootout, well done. The drum track helps a lot with showing real life differences. And good choice of speakers, for a 1x12 setup I'd go with the V30 or the Tornado.
Thanks a lot for this comparison, Miike! Nice work! It really helped me a lot to decide what Speaker to choose. Just bought a Palmer 1x12" cab with that Jet Tornado Speaker from a friend two days ago. It's absolutely awesome for any kind of sound or style, even at very low volumes. Sounds like the perfect mix of the Celestion green back and the V 30 to me. Compared to the other Speakers, the two Eminence models just fall far behind, when it comes to overdriven/crunch sounds. They all sound pleasant, every one in its own way, clean. But the distorted sounds really make the difference: The Eminence speakers both sound weak and muddy and don't cut through the mix. The greenback is just a little too dark sounding to me, while the V 30 is too harsh in the high mids. But that just might be the reason why it's the number one choice of most modern metal players for aggressive high gain sounds. In my opinion the Jet Tornado seems to be the best of both worlds. Very balanced but still powerful. And - as it is the only Speaker with neodyme magnet here - it can handle 100W and is ridiculously lightweight (about half of the weight of a V 30!).
The greenback sounded great. I own the cannabis Rex in a Princeton and I found the speaker very responsive to treble knob changes. Assuming all settings were the same on the amp, the cannabis Rex really sounds good with a bit more treble and the bass rolled off
The Celestions are bright and midrangy, the Eminence speakers sound dull and the Jensen delivers the best balance of lows, mids and treble frequencies - although it could have a bit more upper mids and treble. Surprisingly, I wouldn't go with any of these speakers. Thanks for the comparison!
this is a fantastic demo and a great format for comparison, well done. i wish more people would be this organized and systematic about their demos, they are often worthless. my only wish is that you did a clean funk vamp also, i'd like to hear the attack more in a portion of the clean demo. liked the 12m greenback, curious to see how it stacks up against a jensen p12n
The best speaker is....the one that gives you the tone that *you* want. This isn't hi-fi. There should be no argument about subjective vs. objective measurements. For guitar cabinets, it is the subjective sound that counts. Saying that one is 'better' than another is as silly as saying that one reverb setting is 'better' than another. Anyway, that's my opinion. The format is brilliant.
I thought the Jensen was the most balanced. The celestions lacked lows and the eminence lacked highs. The Fender lacked mids. But any of these could be the better match for different gtrs or amps.
AMEN!.. I just spent solid 5 hours in my living room testing most of the speakers above (minus the jensen but throw a weber12F150 in the mix).. I have 2 amps, fender blues JR and a DRRI.. Conclusion: I am selling/trading my other speakers so I can have a greenback on each amp lol. Cannabis Rex is the biggest looser (beautiful cleans, kinda dark and SUCKS at taking overdrive). Second place is a close one between vintage 30 (more mids) and the 12F150 (more treble)
Excellent presentation, very informative, many thanks. Currently researching lightweight neodymium speakers because I am not getting any younger. Interested to hear opinions.
1. Celestion Greenback; 2. Jenson Tornado. As for the others, the V30 is too spiky in the midrange though it does cut thru a mix well and the 2 Eminences sound like they're being played underwater. I've had 4 of the 5 speakers at some time in the recent past ('cept for the Jenson) and now use Creambacks as they have more power handling, otherwise a Greenback would fit the bill beautifully. Good video by the way.
They all had their merits, the fender sounded a little more unique, yet still nice. I thought the Eminence patriot sounded a little dull. Its all about finding the right speaker to fit your amp & style. Right now, Im really digging the WGS's ive heard...
Greenback and Vintage are similar, but the VIntage did much better when slammed with gain. I never understood the rage about the Cannabis Rex. Always sounds like there is a blanket over it. I don't mind a speaker being bright because you can always roll tone off, but it's hard to add in treble without it sounding weird. Jensen was kind of in between. Still a bit dark.
Jensen is strangely the Best sounding speaker in this particular lineup, which is strange in my opinion since they normally Sound brittle and harsh and not musical at all in my opinion.
The Tornado 100 is not a vintage reissue speaker- in fact, none of the Jet series speakers are. They sound fat, juicy, and sparkly, but the Tornado 100, 80, and 65 are totally different sounding from each other. 65 sounds like a greenback, 80 like a vintage 30, and the 100 sounds like a beast! I have some other Jensen's, like the p12q and c12r, but those are very vintage sounding speakers- the Jet series has major balls and sound very sweet and musical. Highly recommended!
If these amps were in a Grossman Iso Cab then there may be a lot of low end buildup around the microphones and maybe even comb filtering from phase cancellation. This was a good A/B between speakers, but I feel like having the speakers in an open back cab and in a treated room would be a better comparison. Awesome video though!
I was thinking of putting c12n on my HRD but after hearing that Jensen Tornado... it SINGS! 🎶 what do you think guys? Tornado on HRD. I want that Frusciante type of tone.
great demo, not sure any of these were my cup of tea, not jangly or glassy enough. Vintage 30 was alright, I've owned several cabs with those inside, but my tastes have changed a bit since I bought those.
I’ve watched this video dozens of times in the past couple years, and there must be some intense compression & EQing going on, many of these speakers have drastic volume differences and tremendous contrasts in EQ, but here the differences are subtle. I like this format, but wish the recordings were left natural. The heavy section at the end does good to highlight some tonal differences, but still seems more slight than in real life, where some of these speakers are very very different. Still appreciate the comparison
Awesome demo thanks! I think the Celestions have the best midrange by far. The Jensen Torando would be my second choice. Least favorite is the Canibas Rex way too mid scooped would never cut through the mix imo.
I totally agree. I kept the Green Back, but would like to have the Vintage 30 as well, sounds a little more "hifi", whereas the GM sounds more like ROCK! (if you know what I mean -)
I usually love Greenbacks, and liked it clean here, but found it a bit harsh on the gain settings. I thought the Jet won on most settings but wanted a bit more high end shimmer. Lighting Bolt next best. Best comparison video out there, great job
Thanks for your comment Derrick, means a lot! Those were the early days of my youtubing, didn't really know what I was doing, so it's nice to hear you liked it! :-) All the best!
First time I liked the celestions over anything in the test. The T Rex was disappointing in this test but the Jensen Neo's had some good points, hm....
Hello, I would really value your opinion if at all possible please? I have taken one of the 12 inch (JA3066 - in super condition) speakers from my old 70's/80's Yamaha G100 212ll amp and connected it to my new Hughes and Kettner Deluxe 20 amplifier (20/5/1Watt) and it sounds great. However, do you think I would do MUCH better to invest in an new speaker such as the speakers you are comparing here? also, should I go 10 or 12 inch for home use? I like playing clean and also Hi Gain. Thank You
Would be interesting to hear the v30 compared to a Jensen Stealth Tornado 80- it has way more mid range emphasis than the 100. They should have totally different names lol
After listening to this comparison with Sennheiser studio headphones, the Eminence speakers sounded far inferior to the rest. The Celestion speakers were the clear winners although I enjoyed the Jensen as well. I would ranked them; 1. Vintage 30, 2. Greenback, 3. Tornado.
On the section with a cymbal going solidly, you could hear the way each speaker cuts through (or not) ... it seems to take a few seconds to settle down, that maybe my ears or just the recording itself.
Really loved V30. You can't really appreciate the difference between all of them until you listen to that format of comparison
Yeah the V30 is awesome! Thanks for watching Stefano!
Greenback for clean and light overdrive. Vintage 30 for heavier overdrive and distortion. Great demo!! Love hearing how they sit it the mix.
I really like this format for comparisons.
Greenbacks by a mile. What a brilliant format btw
I have a Fender Blues Jr. with the stock speaker and have been planning to buy the Jensen 100. This demo was perfect.
All are perfectly usable nice speakers.
Many musicians do not like the shrill peaks of most guitar speakers. For these the Jensen Tornado is the best option. It has the most neutral sound and saves you a lot of weight in the cabinet/combo.
Yep the Tornado or the Cannibis Rex for that situation. The Tornado has the benefit of handling twice as much power and being about half the weight of a Cannibis Rex.
Loved this comparison format
Given the limitations of listening to an amplified speaker through your computer's amplified speaker (subject to whatever the internet does to it on the way), this is not really a very good way to audit speakers. You really need to hear them in person. Having said that, this is one of the best online presentations I have seen on the subject: we are hearing the same sample through each speaker so we can actually determine the speakers' relative characteristics. We are not dealing with the distraction of a presenter (who is concentrating on looking good) playing differently through each speaker so we have no idea what is the speaker and what is the player. That is the problem with most of the other videos online. Congratulations @UCGom8O99-aRzQWv1e_CfnvA for doing an excellent job comparing speakers in an objective fashion.This is an actual apples to apples comparison a consumer can actually use.
Greenback: balanced, open and has enough top end.
Watch it without looking at the video screen. The stock Lighting Bolt is actually pretty good, similar to the Jensen but less efficient. The Vintage 30 is good but has some top end fizz, and would likely be better suited for a higher powered amp. The Cannabis Rex has a high-mid frequency roar that I really don't like (louder isn't usually better). The Greenback takes first place, with Sample 2 being the best reference for clean and dirty tones.
What a great way to demo different speakers! Liked several, guess that’s why pairings are so popular \m/
This is why we have tone controls on our amps, my stock Fender cab is brighter and my Celestion Greenback cab is darker. love the lightning bolt here thanks for posting this...
Nobody talking about the lightning bolt probably because it's a stick speaker but I love love love it.
I like the Jensen best
Best format of a speaker video yet. Thanks man
Great shoot-out...
Very clear and precise... thank you so much.
Excellent - Excellent demo and very clear what we were hearing and seeing. Like it a lot. Interesting how some were great for a particular type of music being played - none were all around perfect but the Vintage 30 then Greenback then the stock BJR were my favorites.
Yeah, those were my Top3 as well, except Greenback was on 1, then V30 and then the BJR.
Celestions were the only ones that didn't sound like they had a blanket over the cab...good show on the vid - better music than most - liked it.
im split between the celestion vintage 30 and the jensen. The only ones that sounded truer and less muddy. I think I like the Jensen the best
Really good vid, very informative. I am thinking about changing the celestion in my Fender hot rod for a Jensen Neo and this comparison was very helpful.
best test format ever !.. thx... Jensen !!
Excellent demo to choose sound!! Greenbak superb and then Fender Eminence to me.
Well believe it or not...that Fender Lightning Bolt...Sounds the most like nearly every 70-80's recorded guitar recording ever recorded...just my 2cts
I have the V30/G12M/Rex tested them all and liked the Rex the best, and use that one all the time. But in this test it sounded rather dull. Placement of the mic could make a big difference, too much off axis for the Rex (which is fine for bright speakers like the V30). But still very informative and well done! Thanks!
These are all good speakers . If I had to choose only one I would pick the Eminence Fender Lightning Bolt
Very good shootout, well done. The drum track helps a lot with showing real life differences. And good choice of speakers, for a 1x12 setup I'd go with the V30 or the Tornado.
Thanks a lot for this comparison, Miike! Nice work! It really helped me a lot to decide what Speaker to choose.
Just bought a Palmer 1x12" cab with that Jet Tornado Speaker from a friend two days ago. It's absolutely awesome for any kind of sound or style, even at very low volumes. Sounds like the perfect mix of the Celestion green back and the V 30 to me.
Compared to the other Speakers, the two Eminence models just fall far behind, when it comes to overdriven/crunch sounds. They all sound pleasant, every one in its own way, clean. But the distorted sounds really make the difference: The Eminence speakers both sound weak and muddy and don't cut through the mix. The greenback is just a little too dark sounding to me, while the V 30 is too harsh in the high mids. But that just might be the reason why it's the number one choice of most modern metal players for aggressive high gain sounds.
In my opinion the Jet Tornado seems to be the best of both worlds. Very balanced but still powerful. And - as it is the only Speaker with neodyme magnet here - it can handle 100W and is ridiculously lightweight (about half of the weight of a V 30!).
The greenback sounded great. I own the cannabis Rex in a Princeton and I found the speaker very responsive to treble knob changes. Assuming all settings were the same on the amp, the cannabis Rex really sounds good with a bit more treble and the bass rolled off
Celestion Greenback and Vintage 30. I was surprised how close they sound to each other during the entrée test.
When did they do the appetizer test?
The Celestions are bright and midrangy, the Eminence speakers sound dull and the Jensen delivers the best balance of lows, mids and treble frequencies - although it could have a bit more upper mids and treble. Surprisingly, I wouldn't go with any of these speakers. Thanks for the comparison!
such a well made and well presented comparison video. great job!
Super test!Greenback!)))
Vintage 30 , clear sounding . Midrange prominent .
nice clean with the greenback and litlle overdrive. cannabis rex good for distortion
this is a fantastic demo and a great format for comparison, well done. i wish more people would be this organized and systematic about their demos, they are often worthless. my only wish is that you did a clean funk vamp also, i'd like to hear the attack more in a portion of the clean demo. liked the 12m greenback, curious to see how it stacks up against a jensen p12n
Agree. Probably the best shoot-out ever on YT.
That was long time ago ...
Why don't you do more speaker comparisons ?
I'd like it. 😁😁😁
They are SOOO much work :-(
The best speaker is....the one that gives you the tone that *you* want. This isn't hi-fi. There should be no argument about subjective vs. objective measurements. For guitar cabinets, it is the subjective sound that counts. Saying that one is 'better' than another is as silly as saying that one reverb setting is 'better' than another. Anyway, that's my opinion.
The format is brilliant.
I thought the Jensen was the most balanced. The celestions lacked lows and the eminence lacked highs. The Fender lacked mids. But any of these could be the better match for different gtrs or amps.
instablaster...
Agreed
12M greenback is my favorite speaker. I use it for anything.
Drop tuned extreme metal to el84 british chime with my tele and strats.
AMEN!.. I just spent solid 5 hours in my living room testing most of the speakers above (minus the jensen but throw a weber12F150 in the mix).. I have 2 amps, fender blues JR and a DRRI.. Conclusion: I am selling/trading my other speakers so I can have a greenback on each amp lol. Cannabis Rex is the biggest looser (beautiful cleans, kinda dark and SUCKS at taking overdrive). Second place is a close one between vintage 30 (more mids) and the 12F150 (more treble)
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that cannabis REx with distortion is amazing!!!! wow
a serious comparison method, well done!
I liked the vintage 30 best for over all balanced tone. I had cleaner top end with balanced miss and lows.
Excellent presentation, very informative, many thanks. Currently researching lightweight neodymium speakers because I am not getting any younger. Interested to hear opinions.
very nice preso....This confirms it: I'm a greenback lover.
1. Celestion Greenback; 2. Jenson Tornado. As for the others, the V30 is too spiky in the midrange though it does cut thru a mix well and the 2 Eminences sound like they're being played underwater. I've had 4 of the 5 speakers at some time in the recent past ('cept for the Jenson) and now use Creambacks as they have more power handling, otherwise a Greenback would fit the bill beautifully. Good video by the way.
V30 and Greenback sounded very similar in this demo. I liked the Eminence Cannabis Rex.
They all had their merits, the fender sounded a little more unique, yet still nice.
I thought the Eminence patriot sounded a little dull.
Its all about finding the right speaker to fit your amp & style. Right now, Im really digging the WGS's ive heard...
Greenback and Vintage are similar, but the VIntage did much better when slammed with gain. I never understood the rage about the Cannabis Rex. Always sounds like there is a blanket over it. I don't mind a speaker being bright because you can always roll tone off, but it's hard to add in treble without it sounding weird. Jensen was kind of in between. Still a bit dark.
Great video man! Man that greenback nailed it. I never liked that v30, but man I dont know what happens when you use overdrive with it...
Greenback is the Gold Standard. Cannabis Rex is full of personality. I’ll choose one of them.
Jensen is strangely the Best sounding speaker in this particular lineup, which is strange in my opinion since they normally Sound brittle and harsh and not musical at all in my opinion.
The Tornado 100 is not a vintage reissue speaker- in fact, none of the Jet series speakers are. They sound fat, juicy, and sparkly, but the Tornado 100, 80, and 65 are totally different sounding from each other. 65 sounds like a greenback, 80 like a vintage 30, and the 100 sounds like a beast! I have some other Jensen's, like the p12q and c12r, but those are very vintage sounding speakers- the Jet series has major balls and sound very sweet and musical. Highly recommended!
Greenback!
Nothing sounds as good as a Greenback if you want that important woody midrange
Celestion Greenback was most appealing to my ears; the Emi Fender Lighting Bolt the least.
Great demo!
If these amps were in a Grossman Iso Cab then there may be a lot of low end buildup around the microphones and maybe even comb filtering from phase cancellation. This was a good A/B between speakers, but I feel like having the speakers in an open back cab and in a treated room would be a better comparison. Awesome video though!
HELP ME OUT, FOR THE FIRSTMINUTE OR SO I HONESTLY DON`T HEAR MUCH DIFFERENCE IF ANY AT ALL ??
I was thinking of putting c12n on my HRD but after hearing that Jensen Tornado... it SINGS! 🎶 what do you think guys? Tornado on HRD. I want that Frusciante type of tone.
With distortion the greenback seems to add a natural compression that sounds so good. I'm really surprised how poor Cannabis Rex sounds to me.
Ragin Cajun by Eminence is my speaker of choice. I prefer it to the Cannabis Rex, wish it was on the list.
It would be hilarious to find out it was a done through the same solid state amp
great demo, not sure any of these were my cup of tea, not jangly or glassy enough. Vintage 30 was alright, I've owned several cabs with those inside, but my tastes have changed a bit since I bought those.
I’ve watched this video dozens of times in the past couple years, and there must be some intense compression & EQing going on, many of these speakers have drastic volume differences and tremendous contrasts in EQ, but here the differences are subtle. I like this format, but wish the recordings were left natural. The heavy section at the end does good to highlight some tonal differences, but still seems more slight than in real life, where some of these speakers are very very different. Still appreciate the comparison
Awesome demo thanks!
I think the Celestions have the best midrange by far. The Jensen Torando would be my second choice. Least favorite is the Canibas Rex way too mid scooped would never cut through the mix imo.
I totally agree. I kept the Green Back, but would like to have the Vintage 30 as well, sounds a little more "hifi", whereas the GM sounds more like ROCK! (if you know what I mean -)
V30 is good on clean and crunch, Cannabis Rex is brilliant for distortion
Id say greenbacks for clean and crunch but the V30 for distortion/heavy sounded better IMO
great demo/comparison!! I liked the Jensen far and away the best over all 3 tones - green backs were okay. eminence just sounded dull
I usually love Greenbacks, and liked it clean here, but found it a bit harsh on the gain settings. I thought the Jet won on most settings but wanted a bit more high end shimmer. Lighting Bolt next best. Best comparison video out there, great job
Jensen is the most equilibrated!
Whish you would have added a blueback as well, other than that great comparison, thanx!
Thanks, great comparison!
Bravo well done!!! I own the Jensen Tornado in a few amps, best all around speker Ive owned
Thanks for your comment Derrick, means a lot! Those were the early days of my youtubing, didn't really know what I was doing, so it's nice to hear you liked it! :-)
All the best!
I like the Greenback and the V30 more. Maybe a conbination of both?
wow celestion rules! i never thought that. maybe some other competichon was left out?
its important to note this is a way mixed and not matched comparison.
I'm a fan of the Jensen here.
Surprisingly .. the greenback over all.
First time I liked the celestions over anything in the test. The T Rex was disappointing in this test but the Jensen Neo's had some good points, hm....
Hello, I would really value your opinion if at all possible please? I have taken one of the 12 inch (JA3066 - in super condition) speakers from my old 70's/80's Yamaha G100 212ll amp and connected it to my new Hughes and Kettner Deluxe 20 amplifier (20/5/1Watt) and it sounds great. However, do you think I would do MUCH better to invest in an new speaker such as the speakers you are comparing here? also, should I go 10 or 12 inch for home use? I like playing clean and also Hi Gain. Thank You
Celestions cleaned house by far
by far? really?
@@johnc3403 I think so. Clear, defined, open. Eminence are more bass speakers to me, as a bass player I may add.
Celestian Vintage 30 then the Jensen Jet Series Tornado. I like the format.
Would be interesting to hear the v30 compared to a Jensen Stealth Tornado 80- it has way more mid range emphasis than the 100. They should have totally different names lol
Why power handling is so low for such big woofers?
After listening to this comparison with Sennheiser studio headphones, the Eminence speakers sounded far inferior to the rest. The Celestion speakers were the clear winners although I enjoyed the Jensen as well. I would ranked them; 1. Vintage 30, 2. Greenback, 3. Tornado.
great demo, can you do a high end demo next like p12n, cream (90) etc..
Holly Rocken Reverb Batman ... they all sound good
Jensen for me
I love Celestion speakers! I have other brands, but I always go back to Celestion.
I expected more from the cannabis rex. I'm glad I didn't go that way. The greenback sounded a little more my style. More clarity and chime.
Here I think the Vintage 30 sounded the best.
Jensen
Some single-notes would have been good. I think I liked the Greenback best.
You really hear the difference on high gain
greenback by far!
V30 still .. everytime I go speaker shopping I end up back at V30
WGS Retro 30 and Reaper 30 watt
would've been nice to hear the comparison without all the noise, drums etc... how can one get a good clean comparison with so much going on?
Sorry, I thought it would be nice to hear what these speakers would sound like in a band setting. Beginner's mistake I guess.
Nice to hear it in the mix. Well done!
On the section with a cymbal going solidly, you could hear the way each speaker cuts through (or not) ... it seems to take a few seconds to settle down, that maybe my ears or just the recording itself.
1-V30; 2- G-12 ; 3- Jensen 4- Eminence cannabis ; 5 - Eminence Fender.
Jensen fave followed by Celest's
The Rex!!!
Jensen is the best