I feel like Shaun could’ve been to snowboarding what Tony Hawk is to Skateboarding. He’s the snowboarder that has been able to reach the mass audience and pop culture. I am sure Tony Hawk faced and still faces similar issues that comes with celebrity like Shaun does, however Tony Hawk took this opportunity to become the voice of skateboarding outside of skateboarding and that’s what Shaun never did. Shaun is obviously allowed to do whatever he wants but I feel like that was such a missed opportunity and why a lot of people feel like Shaun cared more about his own success then being a part of snowboarding culture.
highly disagree with this. Why should Shaun be shoehorned into being the "voice of snowboarding" ? He did a lot for snowboarding in his own ways and wasnt recognized for it. Its a reflection on the snowboard community which isnt always rational and often very negative towards those who do stand out or are good at it, especially in the terrain parks.
@@lilzreg that is nonsense. Stop the ‘they hate him because they are jealous’ stuff. Fans like him because he won some medals at the olympics and thats fine, but don’t pretend thats the problem people around him had with him. Donna didn’t say what she said because Shaun was ‘too good’.
He’s a snowboarder, not a role model not your daddy, not your uncle uncle Buck give me a freaking break with this attitude as a whole he didn’t get into snowboarding to become the face of snowboarding. He got into snowboarding because he fucking loved it. Nothing more.
@@brianp9268 no she said what she said about him because she’s a freaking bozo in rehab who would rather slam a bottle then face reality as well as give Shawn the props for making her and her husband, millions and millions and millions of dollars, Donna is a freaking hypocrite, and it was embarrassing to listen to her rambling
Wow, I've read the comments and he is more controversial than any other thing! I don't know, I think both sides (him and the other riders) are partly right. He has explained how he saw things and I understand him, and from the other point of view, I also understand the others. I never had the impression that he was full of himself or anything, but it's true that it always was weird how everybody seemed to be in a crew, but him. I don't know, I never hated him, or thought he wasn't "core", which is the first time I hear that word because I am not american. There are many riders who live snowboarding in many different ways. I know tourists who can barely ollie properly and they fkg looooove snowboarding. I know people who only do splitboarding and they fkg love snowboarding. I know people who are full on competitions or coaching, and they love snowboarding. 80% of the time I ride alone, mostly freeride, and I love snowboarding. I don't think he is not "core", at all. The guy is a beast. You can't reach that level if you don't love it. I don't know, but seems that the guy will always be polarizing.
Its amazing how everyone jumped on the bandwagon during the Olympics amd were all about Shaun , because the general public doesn't normally know the real Shaun Whites, or Terje, Peter, Jamie Lynn, McMorris, Ben Ferguson,etc etc. . They would never see or know any one the best riders on the planet. Shaun worked his ass off,his whole life. He earned the right to do what he wants ,as much as he wants. 3 fucking gold medals, xgames golds, video parts, been breathing snowboarding since he was 4 yrs old... Oh ya , and he owns a gold in skateboarding too. Fuck the ' core' conversation. Doesnt mean shit. Live your life ansd keep emjoying it without the self hating losers that cant touch a candle to you
Mainstream snowboard culture hasn't evolved in about 20 years. I have so much respect for what these athletes do in the park, but there are so many disciplines and styles that the industry overlooks.
Deeply in-rooted in the culture/ never “selling out” to make the sport mainstream. Basically growing up into the culture and living all the aspects without deviating yourself from the “line”. Basically just how hardcore of snowboarder you are and how you dedicate yourself to living this “lifestyle”
The whole core thing from the masses is a joke. Never liked him but dude provided for his family and seized opportunities. If you think that’s less core then you buying some here today gone tomorrow hoodie brand; you’re corNEY af.
What's more "core" than being one of the best to ever do it. Snowboarding is snowboarding. I.E. (Riding a snowboard down a snow covered slope) Everything else is just simply political/societal dogma. And that does not sound very "core" to me.
Nail on the head. I snowboard to get that adrenaline. Not to be part of some culture. Personally never rooted for Shaun cos he aint no underdog but i really struggle to see how anyone could criticise him.
Current pros are taking sponsorships with much worse. Take prada for example… What have they done for snowboarding? I would think Shaun makes a lot less now than he use to. Snowboarders use to get paid big bucks
@@keitheridge I wouldn’t doubt it! Lots of pros are taking weird sponsorships not. There just isn’t as much money in the sport. I mean Scotty James wears Tommy Hilfiger goggles lol
Not much to be honest, Big names use to get paid like $500k from 2000-2010, when magazines were still big. Now I'm sure a lot of boarders are lucky if they break $100k. @@travelfootiekie
Shaun rips! Watched him since he was about 7 and no one talks about how he progressed the sport to the insane level where it is today. I mean come on, he was such a perfectionist too Not to mentioned he killed it on a skateboard. None of those haters could do a fraction of what this guy did! Go Shaun!!
Watch the crash reel and come up with your own conclusions and talk to actual people in the industry around tahoe and mammoth areas. His actions there alienated him not that hes god like in pipe or takes non sport sponsors.
Shaun was always about self promotion first and the snowboarding community second. Now he's acting like a martyr for the very decisions that he made for himself. I'd have a lot more respect for him if he just owned the fact the he destroyed much of the contest culture that came before him. He is the face of the corporate greed that crept into snowboarding and he still doesn't understand why he doesn't have everyones respect... Sad.
How did he destroy contest culture? He is the face of success - he is the reason so many of your favourite riders went up against him, and that was to beat him - that's what a contest is, winning and losing. Thing is, they were not good enough - but they were "cool". Most people can't handle that he doesn't fit into their stoner dude personality core culture bullshit. Its the same shit in Punk Rock, Surfing, Metal and so many other things. People want to be gatekeepers and god forbid making money or being successful should be seen as something positive. Corporate greed was always coming, if it wasn't him at that point in time, people would be mad/jealous at whoever it was.
He did own it. He didn't hide that he didn't share his pipe with other riders. He didn't destroy contest culture. Just bc he was winning? Getting first place doesnt stop other riders from doing what they do. Contest riding is still around and the culture is still there. There are plenty of riders that get the same treatment as Shaun for doing much less. The snowboard community as a whole likes to gatekeep people for reasons that are obvious if you're actually mature and objective with people.
@@rw8959 whats with every person saying ‘gatekeeping’. Imagine saying that about the most popular guy in snowboarding lol. Regurgitating bad arguments is bad.
@brianp9268 every person saying it because it's true, it's just that you disagree. It's disingenuous to act like that argument has no validity at all. Shaun white isn't the most popular guy in snowboarding, he couldn't be further from that, hence he's talking about his own alienation. And yes, the snowboard community inherently gatekeeps people because it isn't about how good at the sport, dilligent, or dedicated you are. It's about having 'the look', 'the reach', and other factors that sometimes trample traditional values like hard work.
Nah, people on this pod(Hosts) have made fun of him and it's no wonder he feels that way. That being said anyone of his caliber is going to be picked apart.
really breezed over some allegations that helped alienate him- I get helping him open up but some context to why snowboarding outcasted him would make this more presentable
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I've snowboarded for 30 years and watched you come up. I've always thought any hate aimed your way was bullshit.
Shaun is a living LEGEND, no wonder people try to hate on him.
I feel like Shaun could’ve been to snowboarding what Tony Hawk is to Skateboarding. He’s the snowboarder that has been able to reach the mass audience and pop culture. I am sure Tony Hawk faced and still faces similar issues that comes with celebrity like Shaun does, however Tony Hawk took this opportunity to become the voice of skateboarding outside of skateboarding and that’s what Shaun never did. Shaun is obviously allowed to do whatever he wants but I feel like that was such a missed opportunity and why a lot of people feel like Shaun cared more about his own success then being a part of snowboarding culture.
Yep
highly disagree with this. Why should Shaun be shoehorned into being the "voice of snowboarding" ? He did a lot for snowboarding in his own ways and wasnt recognized for it. Its a reflection on the snowboard community which isnt always rational and often very negative towards those who do stand out or are good at it, especially in the terrain parks.
@@lilzreg that is nonsense. Stop the ‘they hate him because they are jealous’ stuff. Fans like him because he won some medals at the olympics and thats fine, but don’t pretend thats the problem people around him had with him. Donna didn’t say what she said because Shaun was ‘too good’.
He’s a snowboarder, not a role model not your daddy, not your uncle uncle Buck give me a freaking break with this attitude as a whole he didn’t get into snowboarding to become the face of snowboarding. He got into snowboarding because he fucking loved it. Nothing more.
@@brianp9268 no she said what she said about him because she’s a freaking bozo in rehab who would rather slam a bottle then face reality as well as give Shawn the props for making her and her husband, millions and millions and millions of dollars, Donna is a freaking hypocrite, and it was embarrassing to listen to her rambling
Forever Legend
dude was a beast...not only a pro snowboarder, but also a pro skateboarder
Wow, I've read the comments and he is more controversial than any other thing!
I don't know, I think both sides (him and the other riders) are partly right. He has explained how he saw things and I understand him, and from the other point of view, I also understand the others.
I never had the impression that he was full of himself or anything, but it's true that it always was weird how everybody seemed to be in a crew, but him.
I don't know, I never hated him, or thought he wasn't "core", which is the first time I hear that word because I am not american. There are many riders who live snowboarding in many different ways. I know tourists who can barely ollie properly and they fkg looooove snowboarding. I know people who only do splitboarding and they fkg love snowboarding. I know people who are full on competitions or coaching, and they love snowboarding. 80% of the time I ride alone, mostly freeride, and I love snowboarding.
I don't think he is not "core", at all. The guy is a beast. You can't reach that level if you don't love it.
I don't know, but seems that the guy will always be polarizing.
Its amazing how everyone jumped on the bandwagon during the Olympics amd were all about Shaun , because the general public doesn't normally know the real Shaun Whites, or Terje, Peter, Jamie Lynn, McMorris, Ben Ferguson,etc etc. . They would never see or know any one the best riders on the planet. Shaun worked his ass off,his whole life. He earned the right to do what he wants ,as much as he wants. 3 fucking gold medals, xgames golds, video parts, been breathing snowboarding since he was 4 yrs old... Oh ya , and he owns a gold in skateboarding too. Fuck the ' core' conversation. Doesnt mean shit. Live your life ansd keep emjoying it without the self hating losers that cant touch a candle to you
He will always be the greatest snowboarder EVER!!! Micheal Jordan is basketball and Sean White is snowboarding!!!
He seems pretty likeable.
Mainstream snowboard culture hasn't evolved in about 20 years. I have so much respect for what these athletes do in the park, but there are so many disciplines and styles that the industry overlooks.
What is core?
Deeply in-rooted in the culture/ never “selling out” to make the sport mainstream. Basically growing up into the culture and living all the aspects without deviating yourself from the “line”. Basically just how hardcore of snowboarder you are and how you dedicate yourself to living this “lifestyle”
The whole core thing from the masses is a joke. Never liked him but dude provided for his family and seized opportunities. If you think that’s less core then you buying some here today gone tomorrow hoodie brand; you’re corNEY af.
What's more "core" than being one of the best to ever do it. Snowboarding is snowboarding. I.E. (Riding a snowboard down a snow covered slope) Everything else is just simply political/societal dogma. And that does not sound very "core" to me.
Nail on the head. I snowboard to get that adrenaline. Not to be part of some culture. Personally never rooted for Shaun cos he aint no underdog but i really struggle to see how anyone could criticise him.
Im not into Shaun, Donna is hypocrite and Burton is a POS.
We don't care since you probably suck at snowboarding anyways
The GOAT always gets roasted when they should be celebrated.
Because you take on sponsors like moncler. You clearly made enough money. What is the point? What has moncler done for snowboarding?
Current pros are taking sponsorships with much worse. Take prada for example… What have they done for snowboarding?
I would think Shaun makes a lot less now than he use to. Snowboarders use to get paid big bucks
@@Ivypoison23Shaun actually sported Prada goggs for a while....
@@keitheridge I wouldn’t doubt it! Lots of pros are taking weird sponsorships not. There just isn’t as much money in the sport. I mean Scotty James wears Tommy Hilfiger goggles lol
What is enough money?
Not much to be honest, Big names use to get paid like $500k from 2000-2010, when magazines were still big. Now I'm sure a lot of boarders are lucky if they break $100k. @@travelfootiekie
Shaun white who????? Snowboardings black spot in history!!!!!
Makes me wanna buy a snowboard from Him, and give Him a high five!🏂🏂🏂🏂
Shaun your amazing. Remember helping you with tricks and carrying your board up the pipe for you at Windells when I was coaching.
Shaun is a LEGEND!! So fun to watch! Be you man
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Shaun smashed it. Was epic at snowboarding, made cash, living the dream
Shaun rips! Watched him since he was about 7 and no one talks about how he progressed the sport to the insane level where it is today. I mean come on, he was such a perfectionist too Not to mentioned he killed it on a skateboard. None of those haters could do a fraction of what this guy did! Go Shaun!!
Shaun is the Mc Hammer of snowboarding.LOL!! Big Ups Shaun! Do your thang and F#ck everybody else, it's your dream to live.
Shaun White: Hell no I'm not gonna have a beer with my competitors, they're my enemies 😠
Also Shaun White: Why doesn't anybody like me? 😥
Watch the crash reel and come up with your own conclusions and talk to actual people in the industry around tahoe and mammoth areas. His actions there alienated him not that hes god like in pipe or takes non sport sponsors.
bro only came on this podcast because he has a brand now
still only cares about the $
Shaun was always about self promotion first and the snowboarding community second. Now he's acting like a martyr for the very decisions that he made for himself. I'd have a lot more respect for him if he just owned the fact the he destroyed much of the contest culture that came before him. He is the face of the corporate greed that crept into snowboarding and he still doesn't understand why he doesn't have everyones respect... Sad.
How did he destroy contest culture? He is the face of success - he is the reason so many of your favourite riders went up against him, and that was to beat him - that's what a contest is, winning and losing. Thing is, they were not good enough - but they were "cool". Most people can't handle that he doesn't fit into their stoner dude personality core culture bullshit. Its the same shit in Punk Rock, Surfing, Metal and so many other things. People want to be gatekeepers and god forbid making money or being successful should be seen as something positive. Corporate greed was always coming, if it wasn't him at that point in time, people would be mad/jealous at whoever it was.
He did own it. He didn't hide that he didn't share his pipe with other riders. He didn't destroy contest culture. Just bc he was winning? Getting first place doesnt stop other riders from doing what they do. Contest riding is still around and the culture is still there. There are plenty of riders that get the same treatment as Shaun for doing much less. The snowboard community as a whole likes to gatekeep people for reasons that are obvious if you're actually mature and objective with people.
@@22bseano if you don’t get what he is saying thats fine, but strawmaning the point and acting like people hate him just because he’s good is stupid
@@rw8959 whats with every person saying ‘gatekeeping’. Imagine saying that about the most popular guy in snowboarding lol. Regurgitating bad arguments is bad.
@brianp9268 every person saying it because it's true, it's just that you disagree. It's disingenuous to act like that argument has no validity at all. Shaun white isn't the most popular guy in snowboarding, he couldn't be further from that, hence he's talking about his own alienation. And yes, the snowboard community inherently gatekeeps people because it isn't about how good at the sport, dilligent, or dedicated you are. It's about having 'the look', 'the reach', and other factors that sometimes trample traditional values like hard work.
He alienated himself. Still does it by calling himself the victim. Its sad.
Nah, people on this pod(Hosts) have made fun of him and it's no wonder he feels that way. That being said anyone of his caliber is going to be picked apart.
You are so absolutely clueless. It almost seems like you might be a Democrat.
Not core means not freeriding, side hits, and having fun. Competitive snowboarding is awesome but not relatable to the core
This whole episode felt very, very contrived. This is not ‘the look’ bh.
really breezed over some allegations that helped alienate him- I get helping him open up but some context to why snowboarding outcasted him would make this more presentable