I receive pictures, or perhaps short video’s in my minds eye, from time to time, without effort. Interesting. I experience another’s feelings/emotions before and during conversation in person or via the telephone. Your explanation was excellent, and I’m appreciative of it. I couldn’t have put it into words better. Thank you.
I would add that there is almost a 'texture' to the 'feelings' or process when 'connected' empathically to another. Ive found it especialy useful to differentiate and characterize ones feelings from anothers. Literally, questioning especially when there is a sudden/noticeable shift of mood. Wow this is a really briallant share. Thank you so much 😊
And vía texts as well, for me. I also listen , feel, smell and just know. I am not mad. It's a NF especially INFJ thing. For F& F it just happen even though there is no physical contact whatsoever. I am just in tune with them as a state of being.
Same..... I get visuals and images in my minds eye too when I put together ideas or connecting the ideas before explaining or writing things .... lol.... just naturally like that ....
I sometimes take my glasses off when I'm talking to a person. That way I can't actually see them, I'm just listening, but to them I'm giving them full attention.
admentlore saruno That's a good tip. I can't think if I'm making eye contact. I get "lost" in the other person's eyes, and if they are not a safe person I'm afraid they will see into me. It bugs me that not making eye contact is supposed to be a sign of lying, that's not me at all.
Yeah, do you know where that stereotype came from? That's actually the reason I adviced to look in person's eyes when I talk to that person because if I don't, it would be not polite or considered insincere or that I lie.
admentlore saruno Haha I do that too! Also keeps me more grounded in the body and clearer in a more relaxed way somehow so that I'm really there for them.
I am an INFJ - strangest thing: I am UNABLE to make eye contact if I respect someone, and if I do NOT respect them I can look them dead in the eye. What is THAT? :D
Hmm, trying to apply that... humility - maybe - was thinking more because I'm not afraid when I know I'm right to look a wrong person in the eye, but out of respect for authority I can't make eye contact. That and, maybe because, my Mother was a Mommy Dearest type, lol. I know, I shouldn't laugh after saying that, it's a coping method. :D
Jamie Hope Pendergrass I can only make eye contact for longer periods of time if I feel totally safe with that other person. I had trouble making eye contact even with a therapist I'd had for years. I had to look around the room to allow my brain to process what I was going to say next.
It's because you are not entirely confident yet... very hard for INFJS to be self assured in this world. People and INFJs often times do not know how to self validate... Im an INFJ and used to have this problem...trust me. We are VERY attractive and i believe POWERFUL when we are confident. Please develop this for yourself.
i also think the reason that we look away is that we think they can see inside of us as we do them, as they have the same access to the psychological reality as we do. As this is supposed to be a distinguishing feature of the type, I imagine that this is not the case. I think we just do not want to feel so naked (or in a way for THEM to be so naked), it scares us, or at least muddies our thinking. We look away.
nicholas Roberts that makes a lot of sense. I agree. I fall into that a lot. I assume everyone is thinking the way I am and notice and mentally catalog what I do without thinking about it. It always surprises me when I find out otherwise...although I don’t know why it surprises me because that’s Lamaist always the case.
I like how you said in the beginning we looked around when we talk; I totally do that. I avoid looking at the other person, esp when I'm not comfortable around them yet, I don't want to see their face because I know I am going to interpret something from it and it's distracting. I also LOVE how you talked about having fun with FE and really just living in the moment and trying to connect with others, yet NI still picking up things...aaahh; also, you're infj, but why aren't you as expressive when you talk?
***** Thanks for your thoughts. Regarding my expression, I simply find it difficult being expressive to a camera. When I am with other people it is much easier to be more expressive.
I didn't really know it was an INFJ thing, because I caught myself doing the same and I thought to myself "you have to change that" but with this information, I'm not going to
I didn't know looking away while speaking is common between INFJs, very interesting! I often look away when I am talking to someone, I have to be extremely entertained and close with a person not to do this. A lot of the time it is from me searching my mind for the right words for my thoughts, but sometimes it is because I feel like the other person overpowers me, or because of the social anxiety many other INFJs talk about. It never occurred to me it also could do with looking into a persons soul, but that totally makes sense! I often feel peoples auras without looking into their eyes, some more than others; this can become very overwhelming in the sense it affects my mood. Looking away allows me to recluse enough not to see too much. Because you are right, looking into someones eyes shows their soul in much greater detail. I wish I didn't do this so much. People have told me when I do this it comes across as "I am too good for you" (my peers/friends) or "submissive" (my boss). And sensors think I'm just plain stupid. (only because their brain can't comprehend the complex patterns of the universe the ways Ns can. hehe) Do you have any tips on how to do this in a way that doesn't come across to others so negatively?
Hi Amber Conger, thanks for your thoughts and experience. It is a good question. I sometimes tell people why I am looking away, just like telling someone 'let me think about that for a minute'. It gives me room to think and lets the other person know whats going on. I think if you're picking up that they are confused as to why you are looking away, it may be appropriate is some situations to tell them why. Eg looking away helps me to process and think etc.
Maybe looking in people's eyes stops your Ni function to work properly. Ni is a function that does most of it's work when no other active process is being used. So avoiding eye contact, could mean you're using your Ni at these moments.....?
Samee, I was embarrassed when somebody told me about it so I never did it again. But the bad thing is, over time it gave me social anxiety so I tried doing it lesser now.
As an ENTJ I personally believe that Ni is a back door into the subconscious mind, it is strongly connected to it. Ni wants to continually seek out and be fed information but it does this from within. I like talking to INFJs about philosophy and things of this nature and this is where I am most comfortable, I can freely discuss these conversations with INFJs which I cannot do with most of the other types because we are in a society dominated by the sensing types. Honestly I know this may sound messed up but I find sensing types to be vague, they seem to care about things without knowing why or wanting to understand why, they seem to be so surfaced that it annoys me and it's hard to talk to them without conflict of interest. I easily connect with Ni types such as the INFJ, INTJ, ENTJ and INTP, everything tends to be lack luster and I usually feel draind and unfulfilled when trying to talk to the other types. Too much headache and even though I love people at the same time I can't stand them because of Ni vs Se or Si. I don't dislike the other types but I know I compatibility with them is short coming as I feel they are too different from me to vibe with. I will say though I do like INFPs and can connect with them but this is usually person to person as they are so turbulent and red between the lines and confuse what I say and take it as an insult which can drive a wedge between me and them easily. Things tend to start out well with me and INFPs but end bad because of miscommunication.
Infp have opposite cog functions to INFJ, so not always a good match. INFP are conventional but about individualism, INFJ are unconventional but seek harmony.
I am turning 50 yrs old and I have always wanted people to understand me and never had anyone that could. These videos describe me better than I could ever explain. Thank you. I thought I was going to spend my entire life never being understood. Thank you so much.
When I start to speak sometimes it's like my thoughts flee for cover especially when I haven't connected them properly. To others, in that moment I could seem a bumbling idiot.
Antonia Anni I can experience the same thing. I usually put that out there in the conversation so that I can search out what I am trying to say. Something like "bear with me, I have a thought but I just can't grab on to it". This then gives me room to find the thought and not feel awkward.
Thinking of saying 'bear with me' now feels like 'omg I don't want to keep them waiting' I have to trust that will understand. What do you think about this, it's an idea of a 'wearable' that could help Ni wp.me/pjbzB-T7
Antonia Anni Interesting 'wearable' idea. From things I have seen there is already ideas for such devices from a trans-humanist perspective. I think it is only a matter of time before something like this is created. I think I like the process of discovering my own intuitive thoughts too much to get a machine to do it for me, however I can understand the desire for such a device. Nice looking website too!
Because you're engaged with Fe, by default, so that overpowers your Ti, by default. I experience the same, and I have to disengage, entirely, to access Ti and bring it back to my Fe/Se.
Hi. I am an INTJ, rather than an INFJ, but your description of "standing in between the conscious and unconscious or in both at the same time" is an experience that I know very well. It is not just at the edge of sleep, but can be when you are awake as well. It is more like standing at a door or a threshold of a dark room, and having things -- words, ideas, images, impressions, or just a sense of significance -- come to you. That dark room once you learn to trust it, can be a bit of a "black box", where things that need working out can be put into it, and be "processed" like software running in the background.
Well described. Sometimes Ni appear in dreams if ignored esp. if it’s trying to give us warning about a person or situation. And yes Fe allow us to be that people person while Ni is there to protect us.
I constantly have people telling me "You're so quiet." Quite often, I don't pick up clear images from people so much as perceptions & impressions (sometimes seemingly abstract), sometimes accompanied by brief, unspoken words & always with emotional energy of some type. It really depends on the other person & how much energy they are putting out. This doesn't typically work very well with people over the phone. It's so hard to explain how the whole INFJ-empath thing works. It's almost like trying to pull a coherent pattern out of random background noise. Order from chaos. It's not something that is usually consciously done, it's done down deep on such a subtle & natural level that it's simply not possible to put into words that most people can easily understand.
As an INFJ I absolutely hate eye contact!!! It's like I can easily see someone's soul without them even knowing. 98 percent of people I feel like they can't see through me but that 2 percent can see through me. When it happens with that 2% who can easily see through me I immediately look away. I'm usually the one who sees through someone, picking up cues, reading body language and energy not the other way around. I feel like I just shared myself without intentionally wanting to do so. Because of social norms we're required to have to maintain eye contact. So I try avoiding "seeing their soul"by fixating my eyes on them but without actually looking(if that makes sense). I've been told that I zone out and stare into distant or my eyes are fixated on a object for prolonged time. This happens in during conversations too. During conversations where I've been maintaining eye contact I've also observed that most people tend to look away from me it's as if I'm making them uncomfortable. I've been also told that I've intense eyes. Other people have asked me "not to look at them like that"
I want to thank all the other INFJ's out there, I've learned so much over the last year . Unfortunately Utube is ending the commentary aspect of these types of programs. Again, Thank you all for your insights. You helped..
Thank You for helping me understand myself. You are like a instruction guide for what every one in my life has thought of as a “weirdness”. At the same time people seem to “want a piece of you” . You describe things I have done forever and you make me feel really good. People I have loved knew I was special because I really cared for them but they passed. Keep up the great work.
Your analysis on when INFJs during Fe that the intuition takes a back seat, but still subconsciously gathers information during this time is accurate. I find that when I'm extroverting the NI subtly consciously or unconsciously picks up on some cues, body language, translates silence and energy etc. Which helps me how to conduct myself in that given time.Although I'm caught up in the moment Fe, I maybe not have enough time to make an precise analysis and look deeper into things . When I get home in solitude my mind starts introspection and analysing that's when my subconscious brings all the information to the forefront. The post processing and analysing starts make connections to patterns,comparing data and creating a spiderweb. Which I didn't have time to look into in depth during Fe period.
A self-healing method of an INFJ is talking to person and listening themself to what they are saying. Seems self absorbed, and it is because the purpose is self healing after all. All my long posts here are more of a similar healing method. Understanding is healing and I am so grateful for this forum. I secret little fear of mine is that I’ll sound self important or narcissistic because I’m sharing and also working things out. The epiphany I got after thinking over the video and my theories was this: See evil, Hear evil, but speak no evil. I think when we were young we saw the hypocrisy or the lie or the experience but when we incorrectly used our Judging voice we experienced wrath or behavior control to twist our minds but only our behavior could be controlled not our thoughts... the birth of the cluster B magnet and scape goated black sheep and even well behaved, love boned eggshell walking golden child.
I love that it feels like God is sharing His heart with me as you speak. There's something about talking with infjs that I truly need and crave. Enfp here.
INTJ here and this is the best description I've seen so far how of my brain works. I'm looking for something to show my wife so she doesn't think I'm crazy. This is very hard to describe.
This is just bang on. It's 100% accurate to my experience as an INFJ. I'm so glad the algorithm delivered this to me. It really put my thoughts and feelings into words.
Wow. I've known I was an introvert for a while now. This video describes me pretty well. In a conversation I can drift in and out, is how it feels. I listen , and watch until I've processed a certain amount then I feel compelled to drift inside my head, I'm aware of what the person is saying when I drift inwards, which only lasts a few seconds, but all the extra sensory information stops for those few seconds. Its kind of like, I take all the info I have amassed about that person and over the time I've known them and look at it all, together at the same time. Most people that I spend time around, I don't believe know themselves as well as I know them. They seem disconnected from themselves. When I meet someone new, I know them pretty well after talking just a little bit. It doesn't matter what we talk about or how much they hide or lie I just know. I see micro expressions and I feel the truth. What they say , their words I mean, often tells me far less than everything else .its very strong and in a group of my mates, usually six of us meet up now and again I gotta do it multiplied by six. When there's two diff convos happening I'm processing it all, and taking part in one. My girlfriend claims men cant multitask but id like to see her pull that one out of her ass.... It hurts my head sometimes. Anyone get this ? Sorry for the mini novella post btw but it could have been a lot longer
+Mark Kelly I've also had moments in which my head just hurts from analyzing too much of a person in a short amount of time. "btw but it could have been a lot longer" :DDD amazing
My experience is that I can listen to multiple conversations all at once my brain automatically analyzes every and yet my mind can tell what the conversation is about as well as knowing my surroundings at the same time I am aware of my own thought process. I can use my conscious and sub conscious at the same time.my intuition is connected with my thoughts as well as my emotions but yet I do not leak any body language. Each movement or information you get from me is all calculated I have been told I do not give out any body language but I could if I want to and honestly I don’t get headaches. Even when I’m sick like a cough or allergies ear infection and other illnesses I don’t get headaches also for some reason I don’t get what people call brain freeze. I’ve done it where I’ve eaten a lot of ice cream slushes cold drinks I feel the coldness and it gets numb but I’ve yet to know how it feels to have a brain freeze.
It occured to me that people look into another's eyes to read them, to sense the impact of the interplay of their communication, and perhaps to judge vulnerability to hidden agendas. Looking about may be a shield to parasitic influence, to avert the mind readers potential malevolent intent. I sense, that peoples eyes move about in accord with the area of the brain being stimulated, where the pertinent info may be stored. The lack of an established personal perspective on the subject matter generates the searching process, eye movement.
It was a pleasure to watched this video for me as an Infj. Explaining the functions and emotions with the all complexity of our unconsciousness, and how the mechanism works is really valuable. Thank you so much.
thank you so, so much. this was incredibly helpful. you really understand Ni. I cannot tell you the level of patience and sense of presence this short explanation has given me. As I am sure many know, what is incredibly difficult for an INfJ is that people do not understand (indeed I did not) why we have to look away so that we may "see", that looking at them can cause us to feel terrible confusion as we feel our thoughts and the sense of our impressions slipping away or becoming muddled, and that the intensity of our gaze/concentration as well as the quiet before our response is a kind of waiting/brooding period for us. What is interesting is that I feel that on some intuitive level I knew this, but to here you express with that level of clarity and insight is invaluable. I just walked out in public for the first time after watching this and noticed that the patience and presence I acknowledged in myself, was in some way registering a bit more with others. I am not sure if it is the same way for other INFJs, but I get the sense that we really just want to be able to peer inside ourselves unencumbered, for others to recognize this and allow us to do it. Allowing us (and allowing ourselves) to be there and not be there as we enjoy the process. I felt comfortable, happier, and a strange sense that i knew something that in some way i knew along. Anyways, not sure if that is clear, but thank you.
introvered intuition as an infj is as natural as breathing..............i came back to listen because at time i wonder what i am doing on this planet!!!
100% accurate experiences of an INFJ. Even the way you explain the way INFJs explain things is so on par. I totally get you! I want to make a point too, that Introverted Intuition isn’t the same as meditation, even though it’s very useful and vivid in mediation, but our primary function is, in its essence, a function we use that’s naturally a part of ourselves. The example you use too, on how we have one foot in the conscious and another in the unconscious is really true, and it relates to our faulty introverted feeling and inferior extroverted sensing where we really can’t don’t know what’s reality or not, and how we feel personally what reality is or not, if that makes sense.
I think I understand now what you mean by “one foot in the conscious, one foot in the unconscious.” It’s like (I think) when I’m observing a group setting from a distance and I’m aware of what’s going on yet I’m also developing a thread of thought in my head The hunch makes sense too-I get that odd “knowing” in some situations where I can’t really describe what it is but I know it’s there. It can definitely be pretty powerful, so I always try to take time to acknowledge it
As an INFJ-empath, my own experiences have closely paralleled that of Susan Peters. Sometimes, the images I get are not always clear, more like perceptions & impressions, while at other times they can be quite vivid & powerful. I don't do as well with people over the phone. Along with picking up other people's emotions, I could ALMOST (but not quite) believe I can hear or "see" their unspoken words from time to time depending on their physical closeness, how emotionally intense they are at that moment, & other, more subtle factors. It all happens so naturally & easily, with little conscious effort on my part, I'm not sure I can express it in words understandable to someone else much less to myself. Sometimes, I can experience a person from a distance as I observe them approach me. More often than not, I know what a person is going to say just before they say it, & it's sometimes fun to watch their reactions when I almost literally take the unspoken words right out of their unopened mouths. 😅 There are other things as well, but as I go back to re-read what I've just written, I wonder if I'm just slowly losing my INFJ mind.
I am an old INFJ, This is so interesting because there has never been a way to think of myself. My family has just referred to me as the person that will know what will happen. I am depressed and trying to understand why I know things that no one else knows.
Ive known three adulterous affairs that happened before anyone else ever knew. It is terribly frustrating to understand patterns in peoples behaviors and not being able to present them to the world. I find it's like walking around with x ray goggles, seeing many different things, yet not being able to articulate what it is you see. Like you, and many others, I try to not get depressed.
...and the post processing bit...defo...always doing post mortems especially if certain scenarios were not adding up or if I get vibes from people that question trust...ie not authentic etc.
Very interesting about the eye contact! I recently filmed myself speaking and watching it back I was irritated how much I kept looking away - its the first time I've become aware that I do it. I'd like to train myself out of it. In those cases I look away simply because I don't say something without thinking about it first, so there is a delay while I do that. Other times it is because making direct eye contact for too long means I receive too much information from the other person at once and its overwhelming.
urbanrat84 I sometimes and experienced the opposite for too long and unfortunately i didnt understand what the weirdness i got out of the "staring contest" potentially meant. Looking away is certainly less offensive and intimidating in my opinion. Its polite not to judge and receive all of anothers characteristics because seeing is of course a sensor we have built in and a powerful one. "Seeing is believing"; if youve ever heard that quote perhaps helpful but a fool who is looking to prey upon you many times demands that attention of eye contact due to the fact they want your soul for their own and typically are the masters at that one simple minded sense of sight. Idk, prolly stronger than a good persons ever but I think they found one blessing and disregard the rest of the senses as merely ignorant. All i can know is when needed you may have to again do something you dont like but in regards to save yourself especially if alone show them they cant handle the truth nor maintain any sense of sanity if they dont respect your wishes just as you try the same for them. Thank you too as its nice to hear through reading comments and so beautiful people practice #1 right if youre American. It represents the most sincere form of respect as too many folks perished to preserve that right amongst others. Just please be careful as with anything it seems to have its achilles heel. Thank you again :)
Often times I find eye contact helps me and I LOVE THAT, especially with someone who is being sincere and open and seems to be wanting to connect with me but if I feel they are being deceptive guarded or vague is when I find it hard to keep eye contact and honestly I’m not sure why ... I am thinking it helps me see them more clearly through their energy and voice and I can focus on what they say and don’t say and I get a less Diluted feel of the person not being completely open and real with me. I never thought about that until you have brought it up but yes I do that!
I also often look off and all around when I AM DOING THE TALKING... Though I never really thought about why... mostly trying to find the right words to say what I think and feel and I just can’t do that when focusing on one single direction ... hmmm got me wondering now😕
Scary accurate. I seem to have a lot of moments where I am searching for the right words to respond as mental images play in my head. It always feels as if my conscious mind is trying to catch up with even impressions from my subconscious.
Your eyes are deeply connected to your mind. Whether you're directing them, or they are locking onto details, both run counter to intuition. Relaxing your eyes and 'looking into space', in a way, is the intuitive normal. Eyes may wander, on their own, but that is inherently different from _looking._ Anyways I felt like clearing that up and no I don't know why or how I know so don't ask! Whenever I try and prove something to people it doesn't work, and how could it? Nothing can truly be proven.
One time, at lunch, I was staring off into space while I was talking to my friend (my eyes happened to land on my cookie), and my friend took my cookie and I didn't notice. He cracked up laughing because I didn't notice it was gone.
This video is so valuable for us infjs I come back once in a while to remind me why I think that way or I do when I think and feel a bit lost Thank you for your video
Excellent video. All my life I thought this was simply a gift of discernment. This part of my personality has scared me and baffled those around me. I have walked into a public place more than once and walked up to complete strangers and told them exactly what was going on in their lives without knowing anything. I resigned as the pastor of a church one time and told two people that a particular young man in the church was going to be the pastor. The boy couldn't preach his way out of a paper sack, but somehow I knew he would take the reigns of the ship when I was out of the picture. When I expressed this to a few of my friends, they immediately thought I was crazy. I then went on to explain to them exactly how he would manage to do it. And six months later, the young man followed that track exactly down to the most minute detail and became pastor of the church. Several other men wanted to pastor the church, but he played his cards just right and it worked out to his advantage. I was the only person who saw the pieces of the puzzle and was able to put them together. These kind of things have happened in my life over and over again. I have overridden my initial gut feeling more that once and lived to regret it. You hit the nail on the head......ALWAYS TRUST THAT INITIAL INTUITIVE THOUGHT. I can't remember a time when it led me wrong. However, it has caused great stress on my closest relationships at times because of being misunderstood. Sometimes my wife doesn't understand how I feel at these moments. God bless!!
I totally agree. We detach a bit from the situation, so that we can pick up on our intuition, feel etc about the situation. What pops into our heads is usually right!!!!!!
Yes. Eye contact can be “quite intense” and absolutely distracting. Thank you for putting all this together. It feels strange and relieving and exciting to watch someone explain this. I’ve tried to explain how I process information and it just doesn’t make sense to others.
I knew my entire life I was tapping into something in my mind, it gave me all the answers I needed to protect me, I am so in tune with it, and today I now have a name for it, thanks for the vid and the info 👍🏻
I completely agree with you about speaking our way through Ni. Only lately discovering the power of my own voice, literally speaking out loud, has only led to good outcomes for me. I believe in power of words and the power of speaking things into existence, which is ironic because ive lived most of my life finding it very hard to talk. Also this idea of being quiet or taking up an empty quiet space is profound. I used to wonder what was wrong with me that i wasnt quicker, more snappy in my thoughts. Always felt this to be a flaw, little did i know it was Ni taking her sweet mega time. Thank you for this.
"Trusting that something will emerge out of that hunch." This is something I've noticed in myself during the last years. I find myself getting a hunch off an idea that I can't quite grasp, but I've noticed that as I begin to speak the "complete" understanding of the idea that I sensed emerges and takes form mid-air as I form the words. It's very interesting and feels very good. It hasn't always worked out though, sometimes I just end up trying to explore the idea, kind of clumsily, with logic.
I totally get this. I used to think that I was just a daydreamer. My old boss would ask "where did you go just then?" little did I know I was evaluating him, my situation atm and subconsciously tuning out any distractions. I can read the room upon entering. People's vibes and energy seem to flow directly to my internal cpu... It took me 46 years to understand the real, true nature of what exactly is happening to me. Thanks for the upload 👍
Okay, I'm hearing that the hunch - or FLAG - is something that is rapidly becoming a pattern or picture or connotation that we can briefly focus on and later use to form an entire understanding that most cannot achieve. This is something that I often experience, but when I try to tell the normals about this, they cannot understand. I am a stranger in a strange land.
This is soo spot on. That postprocessing thing... omg, story of my life. It's all starting to make complete sense. The joy and Dot Connection Excitement rising up is almost unbearable! I'm off to send you some patreon$love... with deepest appreciation 😀🙏
This is absolutely fantastic! You just explained MY MIND. Thank you so much for sharing this video, I haven't seen any before that explain how the Ni actually works. Cheers!
Scott I just discovered you here and loving it. It is true. We stand in both worlds in the other person and we feel how those worlds interact inside of them. We experience what other person does not know about themselves ♥️ this is a deep psychic connection yes
Thank you so much for this video I have been grieving about the lost of my Ni and lately I started to have hunhes very clear which made me happy I think I am in the process of recovering my best friend Ni😂
I find that quick sentences that go through my mind, and they happen so quickly that I cannot record them, or speak them. It is as if the dots are being connected. We constantly learning. We never stop learning.
When you said "the eyes are the window to the soul". I use to say that all the time! Also, I have a hard time with eye contact. Even in a restaurant, my sister would scold me for not looking at the waitress!
So on the dot!! as an infj i appreciate your explanation of our introverted intution i could not understand myself/i can relate so much to the long quietness /the difficult eyes contact/the ah ah moments/the brief awareness /being at the same time in the concious and unconcious
This video just made me think about a good experience maybe to get what introverted intuition is about: sit down at a table face to face with another person but say nothing on both sides plus stay in silence and look at the other person intensely. Try to guess what the micro-expressions of this person mean and try to guess what the other person is thinking. Try to create a quiet atmosphere to connect deeply with your thoughts and your guessing skills. Of course it's a very awkward situation to experience and might be unbearable for some types but I think it's perfect to get the intense Ni concentration. Or try to find meanings into paintings, can also be very effective. I think we mostly have an intuitive connection with animals to be able to understand them and them to understand us because we can't use words to get what they think and want.
People have told me through the years that there is no way I could figure out the things I figure out. It took me a long time to realize my introverted intuition was truly a superpower, once I stopped resisting it.
my goodness, spot on!! looking for the right context.... also, with certain people under certain conditions, i've had my eyes close, and it was embarressing
I do this because I don’t want to make the person I’m looking at feel nervous by staring into there soul and seeing the dark secrets, It Make them feel naked and vulnerable it’s for their benefit ... Very clever guy I like your videos
Wow! Great video! This is so true. Even as a therapist I do look away as I am talking as if I’m waiting for the accurate words to communicate what I want. Also, eye contact is very intimate for me. I am aware I have an intense gaze and so I advert my gaze with strangers to avoid connecting intimately. Also, I’ve attracted men that I were not interested in by making eye contact briefly which can be quite inconvenient at times. 😆 if I’m quiet, I’m connecting dots. I like to say I communicate with a punch 🥊 of insight. I really appreciate the way you articulate everything. Thank you!
INJJ male. This is hands down the best description of how I think and behave while interacting with others. From eye contact looking away, to the intensity of making eye contact. I feel I don't want to overpower the other person with my eye contact intensity. I have no idea if this is based on my own perception alone or if that's how others perceive it also. I sent an email asking for a video description of Ne in action as an Ne would experience it. My closest friend is INTP and I want to know how their Ne works, how they perceive it, what they're focused on etc. Thanks. Looking forward to more videos.
Looking into peoples eyes can be at times a form of energy vampirism! People can hook into others energy field and then continue to take energy from said person even when not in their presence! This is why meditation, clearing work, spiritual baths are very important. It helps clear your energy inside and outside!
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Back with that introverted intuition/ it has been my radar since the beginning of my life and it's great we can sense people /places we can read in between the lines and for us it's so natural!! and we get warned /if we decide to go into that relationship/situation or not but at least we know in advance!!!
I see NI as an unconscious mental emulator - couple with Te, it try to emulate the causality of the world around the user - and couple with Fe, it tries to simulate the mind of other people.
Sometimes it's like I can request things of my Ni. If there's something I'm confused about or have an undeveloped "hunch" I can verbally request an answer, then I proceed about my time regularly and then I get flashes or images that let me know the "processing of my request" is happening then finally the "ah ha" moment and clarity is achieved.
Powerful insights! Thanks Scott. I personally tried to write an explanation for myself--what Ni really is and how it works. But I really didn't know how to extrapulate it from my sub or unconscious into my conscious and bring it into written form. Although I did exactly that, I don't think I could put it so concisely and really explain it, even to myself.. it's just puzzling!
Ni is about taking general snapshots of ideas, concepts, systems (or almost anything, really) often bypassing the analysis of the details in between. Ni does this because it is trying to rapidly extract, from the subject in question, the essence or general "point" behind it, not bothering to ponder about details that are irrelevant to the general meaning of the subject or thought in question. In other words, Ni helps you extract the "jist" of something intuitively without having to go too deep into meticulous analysis; a shortcut that allows quick understanding, if you will. INFJs then contextualize these different bits of information they have gathered through Ni to paint a larger whole, attempting to determine the grand MEANING of something. Jesus Christ(INFJ), for example, loved to tell parables. Parables are ALL about extracting a MEANING from a story. Leaving out any details in the story that are irrelevant to the overall ESSENCE or lesson of the message is essential in telling an effective parable. this is what Ni is all about. It is about gathering general information which is then placed into a hypothetical bowl, in which the information is related to one another in a way that illustrates the essence or grander meaning of what the information implies within a wider context.
I've had conversations in the morning say, at three o'clock in the morning I'll wake up with this uncontrollably over whelming down load pouring into my head , like standing at the bottom of a waterfall and feeling the weight and being trapped there, it makes me feel sick and very ill . it'll last for a few minuets and up to an hour . then I'll have a whole new perspective of the conversation and the person i had the conversation with . i didn't realize it was coming from my subconscious in to my conscious .
Can INFJ use dreams as premonition and calculate when it can come true... I calulate in the numbers of 7. And usually comes true and as you have said, when I go into isolation or meditative mode, I feel energy more strongly...
The looking away when talking thing is me but how many other personality types do that? I've done that since I was a child, looking into someones eyes feels like we're touching.
I have watched a few of your videos, and I have noticed how slow you move with pauses in the middle of your sentences. It takes you some time to complete a paragraph's worth of dialogue. I love your insights and your thoroughness in fleshing out your expressions in such an accurate manner, however, I think that it would be beneficial to write it down and present it all in a manner that doesn't create sluggishness in your presentation. I'm not a genius, but this has occurred to me. Love your material!
I receive pictures, or perhaps short video’s in my minds eye, from time to time, without effort. Interesting. I experience another’s feelings/emotions before and during conversation in person or via the telephone. Your explanation was excellent, and I’m appreciative of it. I couldn’t have put it into words better. Thank you.
You're very welcome Susan. Glad you are liking the videos!
I would add that there is almost a 'texture' to the 'feelings' or process when 'connected' empathically to another. Ive found it especialy useful to differentiate and characterize ones feelings from anothers. Literally, questioning especially when there is a sudden/noticeable shift of mood. Wow this is a really briallant share. Thank you so much 😊
And vía texts as well, for me.
I also listen , feel, smell and just know. I am not mad. It's a NF especially INFJ thing. For F& F it just happen even though there is no physical contact whatsoever. I am just in tune with them as a state of being.
Yes, video, too bad some always try to deceive. So interesting when folks lie about their religion.
Same..... I get visuals and images in my minds eye too when I put together ideas or connecting the ideas before explaining or writing things .... lol.... just naturally like that ....
I sometimes take my glasses off when I'm talking to a person. That way I can't actually see them, I'm just listening, but to them I'm giving them full attention.
lol I do that, too, and if I am out in public, I either take off my glasses or I put ON my sunglasses. :)
admentlore saruno That's a good tip. I can't think if I'm making eye contact. I get "lost" in the other person's eyes, and if they are not a safe person I'm afraid they will see into me. It bugs me that not making eye contact is supposed to be a sign of lying, that's not me at all.
Yeah, do you know where that stereotype came from? That's actually the reason I adviced to look in person's eyes when I talk to that person because if I don't, it would be not polite or considered insincere or that I lie.
Lmfao I wish I could do this!
admentlore saruno Haha I do that too! Also keeps me more grounded in the body and clearer in a more relaxed way somehow so that I'm really there for them.
I am an INFJ - strangest thing: I am UNABLE to make eye contact if I respect someone, and if I do NOT respect them I can look them dead in the eye. What is THAT? :D
Hmm, trying to apply that... humility - maybe - was thinking more because I'm not afraid when I know I'm right to look a wrong person in the eye, but out of respect for authority I can't make eye contact. That and, maybe because, my Mother was a Mommy Dearest type, lol. I know, I shouldn't laugh after saying that, it's a coping method. :D
Jamie Pendergrass me too!
Jamie Hope Pendergrass I can only make eye contact for longer periods of time if I feel totally safe with that other person. I had trouble making eye contact even with a therapist I'd had for years. I had to look around the room to allow my brain to process what I was going to say next.
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That's true,, this is Deep!
It's because you are not entirely confident yet... very hard for INFJS to be self assured in this world. People and INFJs often times do not know how to self validate... Im an INFJ and used to have this problem...trust me. We are VERY attractive and i believe POWERFUL when we are confident. Please develop this for yourself.
i also think the reason that we look away is that we think they can see inside of us as we do them, as they have the same access to the psychological reality as we do. As this is supposed to be a distinguishing feature of the type, I imagine that this is not the case. I think we just do not want to feel so naked (or in a way for THEM to be so naked), it scares us, or at least muddies our thinking. We look away.
nicholas Roberts that makes a lot of sense. I agree. I fall into that a lot. I assume everyone is thinking the way I am and notice and mentally catalog what I do without thinking about it. It always surprises me when I find out otherwise...although I don’t know why it surprises me because that’s Lamaist always the case.
Same, makes feel me distracted, well I look at 1 persons eyes for few seconds and energy was so intense and agressive
Do agree, has that feeling the others could see what's inside us and sometimes it's like why don't they understand it.. even without uttering a word
I like how you said in the beginning we looked around when we talk; I totally do that. I avoid looking at the other person, esp when I'm not comfortable around them yet, I don't want to see their face because I know I am going to interpret something from it and it's distracting. I also LOVE how you talked about having fun with FE and really just living in the moment and trying to connect with others, yet NI still picking up things...aaahh; also, you're infj, but why aren't you as expressive when you talk?
***** Thanks for your thoughts. Regarding my expression, I simply find it difficult being expressive to a camera. When I am with other people it is much easier to be more expressive.
Scott Morgan And I'm so glad you did get in front of the camera 😀... it's so confirming. Thank you. I'm saving up my £s!
I didn't really know it was an INFJ thing, because I caught myself doing the same and I thought to myself "you have to change that" but with this information, I'm not going to
Fe allow us to be a people person while Ni is there to protect us.
I didn't know looking away while speaking is common between INFJs, very interesting! I often look away when I am talking to someone, I have to be extremely entertained and close with a person not to do this. A lot of the time it is from me searching my mind for the right words for my thoughts, but sometimes it is because I feel like the other person overpowers me, or because of the social anxiety many other INFJs talk about. It never occurred to me it also could do with looking into a persons soul, but that totally makes sense! I often feel peoples auras without looking into their eyes, some more than others; this can become very overwhelming in the sense it affects my mood. Looking away allows me to recluse enough not to see too much. Because you are right, looking into someones eyes shows their soul in much greater detail. I wish I didn't do this so much. People have told me when I do this it comes across as "I am too good for you" (my peers/friends) or "submissive" (my boss). And sensors think I'm just plain stupid. (only because their brain can't comprehend the complex patterns of the universe the ways Ns can. hehe) Do you have any tips on how to do this in a way that doesn't come across to others so negatively?
Hi Amber Conger, thanks for your thoughts and experience. It is a good question. I sometimes tell people why I am looking away, just like telling someone 'let me think about that for a minute'. It gives me room to think and lets the other person know whats going on. I think if you're picking up that they are confused as to why you are looking away, it may be appropriate is some situations to tell them why. Eg looking away helps me to process and think etc.
Thank you! I will try that :)
Maybe looking in people's eyes stops your Ni function to work properly. Ni is a function that does most of it's work when no other active process is being used. So avoiding eye contact, could mean you're using your Ni at these moments.....?
I hate making eye contact makes me uncomfortable. When I was a kid I was told I stared alot
Me people saying to that i staring a lot
So relatable
Samee, I was embarrassed when somebody told me about it so I never did it again. But the bad thing is, over time it gave me social anxiety so I tried doing it lesser now.
As an ENTJ I personally believe that Ni is a back door into the subconscious mind, it is strongly connected to it. Ni wants to continually seek out and be fed information but it does this from within. I like talking to INFJs about philosophy and things of this nature and this is where I am most comfortable, I can freely discuss these conversations with INFJs which I cannot do with most of the other types because we are in a society dominated by the sensing types. Honestly I know this may sound messed up but I find sensing types to be vague, they seem to care about things without knowing why or wanting to understand why, they seem to be so surfaced that it annoys me and it's hard to talk to them without conflict of interest. I easily connect with Ni types such as the INFJ, INTJ, ENTJ and INTP, everything tends to be lack luster and I usually feel draind and unfulfilled when trying to talk to the other types. Too much headache and even though I love people at the same time I can't stand them because of Ni vs Se or Si.
I don't dislike the other types but I know I compatibility with them is short coming as I feel they are too different from me to vibe with. I will say though I do like INFPs and can connect with them but this is usually person to person as they are so turbulent and red between the lines and confuse what I say and take it as an insult which can drive a wedge between me and them easily. Things tend to start out well with me and INFPs but end bad because of miscommunication.
Infp have opposite cog functions to INFJ, so not always a good match. INFP are conventional but about individualism, INFJ are unconventional but seek harmony.
I also struggle with Sensors. They just don’t have enough cognitive depth. In worst cases, they seem like robots to me.
I am turning 50 yrs old and I have always wanted people to understand me and never had anyone that could. These videos describe me better than I could ever explain. Thank you. I thought I was going to spend my entire life never being understood. Thank you so much.
I feel the same. It's comforting
As an INFJ myself, I have NEVER felt someone understand me as much as you do in this video.🥰
When I start to speak sometimes it's like my thoughts flee for cover especially when I haven't connected them properly. To others, in that moment I could seem a bumbling idiot.
Antonia Anni I can experience the same thing. I usually put that out there in the conversation so that I can search out what I am trying to say. Something like "bear with me, I have a thought but I just can't grab on to it". This then gives me room to find the thought and not feel awkward.
Thinking of saying 'bear with me' now feels like 'omg I don't want to keep them waiting' I have to trust that will understand. What do you think about this, it's an idea of a 'wearable' that could help Ni wp.me/pjbzB-T7
Antonia Anni Interesting 'wearable' idea. From things I have seen there is already ideas for such devices from a trans-humanist perspective. I think it is only a matter of time before something like this is created. I think I like the process of discovering my own intuitive thoughts too much to get a machine to do it for me, however I can understand the desire for such a device. Nice looking website too!
Yea I feel you on that. Thanks
Because you're engaged with Fe, by default, so that overpowers your Ti, by default. I experience the same, and I have to disengage, entirely, to access Ti and bring it back to my Fe/Se.
Hi. I am an INTJ, rather than an INFJ, but your description of "standing in between the conscious and unconscious or in both at the same time" is an experience that I know very well. It is not just at the edge of sleep, but can be when you are awake as well. It is more like standing at a door or a threshold of a dark room, and having things -- words, ideas, images, impressions, or just a sense of significance -- come to you. That dark room once you learn to trust it, can be a bit of a "black box", where things that need working out can be put into it, and be "processed" like software running in the background.
Well described. Sometimes Ni appear in dreams if ignored esp. if it’s trying to give us warning about a person or situation.
And yes Fe allow us to be that people person while Ni is there to protect us.
I constantly have people telling me "You're so quiet." Quite often, I don't pick up clear images from people so much as perceptions & impressions (sometimes seemingly abstract), sometimes accompanied by brief, unspoken words & always with emotional energy of some type. It really depends on the other person & how much energy they are putting out. This doesn't typically work very well with people over the phone.
It's so hard to explain how the whole INFJ-empath thing works. It's almost like trying to pull a coherent pattern out of random background noise. Order from chaos. It's not something that is usually consciously done, it's done down deep on such a subtle & natural level that it's simply not possible to put into words that most people can easily understand.
I'm an INFJ and really resonated with what you said. A lot of poetry stuff I write comes from my introspection.
That's awesome +Fitness Gamer
Jeez! I'm always saying, "I just realized...." for so many things. This video is a great explanation of where that comes from. Thank you!
You're welcome
As an INFJ I absolutely hate eye contact!!! It's like I can easily see someone's soul without them even knowing. 98 percent of people I feel like they can't see through me but that 2 percent can see through me. When it happens with that 2% who can easily see through me I immediately look away. I'm usually the one who sees through someone, picking up cues, reading body language and energy not the other way around. I feel like I just shared myself without intentionally wanting to do so. Because of social norms we're required to have to maintain eye contact. So I try avoiding "seeing their soul"by fixating my eyes on them but without actually looking(if that makes sense). I've been told that I zone out and stare into distant or my eyes are fixated on a object for prolonged time. This happens in during conversations too. During conversations where I've been maintaining eye contact I've also observed that most people tend to look away from me it's as if I'm making them uncomfortable. I've been also told that I've intense eyes. Other people have asked me "not to look at them like that"
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That's too cute and made me giggle "Don't look at me like that!" Again, that's cute!🤣🌺
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I want to thank all the other INFJ's out there, I've learned so much over the last year . Unfortunately Utube is ending the commentary aspect of these types of programs. Again, Thank you all for your insights. You helped..
Wow the eye contact thing totally makes sense to me now!
Me too! It totally explains why eye contact is so hard.
Same
Thank You for helping me understand myself. You are like a instruction guide for what every one in my life has thought of as a “weirdness”. At the same time people seem to “want a piece of you” . You describe things I have done forever and you make me feel really good. People I have loved knew I was special because I really cared for them but they passed. Keep up the great work.
You're welcome Denise
Your analysis on when INFJs during Fe that the intuition takes a back seat, but still subconsciously gathers information during this time is accurate. I find that when I'm extroverting the NI subtly consciously or unconsciously picks up on some cues, body language, translates silence and energy etc. Which helps me how to conduct myself in that given time.Although I'm caught up in the moment Fe, I maybe not have enough time to make an precise analysis and look deeper into things . When I get home in solitude my mind starts introspection and analysing that's when my subconscious brings all the information to the forefront. The post processing and analysing starts make connections to patterns,comparing data and creating a spiderweb. Which I didn't have time to look into in depth during Fe period.
A self-healing method of an INFJ is talking to person and listening themself to what they are saying. Seems self absorbed, and it is because the purpose is self healing after all.
All my long posts here are more of a similar healing method. Understanding is healing and I am so grateful for this forum. I secret little fear of mine is that I’ll sound self important or narcissistic because I’m sharing and also working things out.
The epiphany I got after thinking over the video and my theories was this:
See evil, Hear evil, but speak no evil. I think when we were young we saw the hypocrisy or the lie or the experience but when we incorrectly used our Judging voice we experienced wrath or behavior control to twist our minds but only our behavior could be controlled not our thoughts... the birth of the cluster B magnet and scape goated black sheep and even well behaved, love boned eggshell walking golden child.
“Verbal processing”. aka thinking out loud
I love that it feels like God is sharing His heart with me as you speak. There's something about talking with infjs that I truly need and crave. Enfp here.
Nothingness = Zen = flow state = being in the zone
The whole looking away thing while accessing. So glad you posted this. Now I understand what I've been doing all this time!
Thanks great +Scott Maness glad the video was helpful :)
INTJ here and this is the best description I've seen so far how of my brain works. I'm looking for something to show my wife so she doesn't think I'm crazy. This is very hard to describe.
You have sooo much good stuff on your channel Scott. So glad to know, see and take part of a balanced insightful INFJ, knowledgable =)
Thanks again TheAwakenedINFJ :)
This is just bang on. It's 100% accurate to my experience as an INFJ. I'm so glad the algorithm delivered this to me. It really put my thoughts and feelings into words.
I can't look into your eyes and concentrate. I had to look away to get what you say, and it's absolutely true.
Nothing better than to be taught by an iNtuitive itself. Thank you, Scott. Expertly done.
Thanks heaps Shelby
Wow. I've known I was an introvert for a while now. This video describes me pretty well. In a conversation I can drift in and out, is how it feels. I listen , and watch until I've processed a certain amount then I feel compelled to drift inside my head, I'm aware of what the person is saying when I drift inwards, which only lasts a few seconds, but all the extra sensory information stops for those few seconds. Its kind of like, I take all the info I have amassed about that person and over the time I've known them and look at it all, together at the same time. Most people that I spend time around, I don't believe know themselves as well as I know them. They seem disconnected from themselves. When I meet someone new, I know them pretty well after talking just a little bit. It doesn't matter what we talk about or how much they hide or lie I just know. I see micro expressions and I feel the truth. What they say , their words I mean, often tells me far less than everything else .its very strong and in a group of my mates, usually six of us meet up now and again I gotta do it multiplied by six. When there's two diff convos happening I'm processing it all, and taking part in one. My girlfriend claims men cant multitask but id like to see her pull that one out of her ass.... It hurts my head sometimes. Anyone get this ? Sorry for the mini novella post btw but it could have been a lot longer
Thanks for all your thoughts and reflections +Mark Kelly , much appreciated.
+Mark Kelly I've also had moments in which my head just hurts from analyzing too much of a person in a short amount of time.
"btw but it could have been a lot longer" :DDD amazing
My experience is that I can listen to multiple conversations all at once my brain automatically analyzes every and yet my mind can tell what the conversation is about as well as knowing my surroundings at the same time I am aware of my own thought process. I can use my conscious and sub conscious at the same time.my intuition is connected with my thoughts as well as my emotions but yet I do not leak any body language. Each movement or information you get from me is all calculated I have been told I do not give out any body language but I could if I want to and honestly I don’t get headaches. Even when I’m sick like a cough or allergies ear infection and other illnesses I don’t get headaches also for some reason I don’t get what people call brain freeze. I’ve done it where I’ve eaten a lot of ice cream slushes cold drinks I feel the coldness and it gets numb but I’ve yet to know how it feels to have a brain freeze.
"A comfortable nothingness". Oh dear God, YES!!!
Best description of Ni that I've ever been able to understand and identify with - thank you for your ministry
It occured to me that people look into another's eyes to read them, to sense the impact of the interplay of their communication, and perhaps to judge vulnerability to hidden agendas. Looking about may be a shield to parasitic influence, to avert the mind readers potential malevolent intent. I sense, that peoples eyes move about in accord with the area of the brain being stimulated, where the pertinent info may be stored. The lack of an established personal perspective on the subject matter generates the searching process, eye movement.
It was a pleasure to watched this video for me as an Infj. Explaining the functions and emotions with the all complexity of our unconsciousness, and how the mechanism works is really valuable. Thank you so much.
thank you so, so much. this was incredibly helpful. you really understand Ni. I cannot tell you the level of patience and sense of presence this short explanation has given me.
As I am sure many know, what is incredibly difficult for an INfJ is that people do not understand (indeed I did not) why we have to look away so that we may "see", that looking at them can cause us to feel terrible confusion as we feel our thoughts and the sense of our impressions slipping away or becoming muddled, and that the intensity of our gaze/concentration as well as the quiet before our response is a kind of waiting/brooding period for us.
What is interesting is that I feel that on some intuitive level I knew this, but to here you express with that level of clarity and insight is invaluable. I just walked out in public for the first time after watching this and noticed that the patience and presence I acknowledged in myself, was in some way registering a bit more with others.
I am not sure if it is the same way for other INFJs, but I get the sense that we really just want to be able to peer inside ourselves unencumbered, for others to recognize this and allow us to do it. Allowing us (and allowing ourselves) to be there and not be there as we enjoy the process.
I felt comfortable, happier, and a strange sense that i knew something that in some way i knew along.
Anyways, not sure if that is clear, but thank you.
Very clear. Great to hear that the video spoke so powerfully to you.
introvered intuition as an infj is as natural as breathing..............i came back to listen because at time i wonder what i am doing on this planet!!!
100% accurate experiences of an INFJ. Even the way you explain the way INFJs explain things is so on par. I totally get you! I want to make a point too, that Introverted Intuition isn’t the same as meditation, even though it’s very useful and vivid in mediation, but our primary function is, in its essence, a function we use that’s naturally a part of ourselves. The example you use too, on how we have one foot in the conscious and another in the unconscious is really true, and it relates to our faulty introverted feeling and inferior extroverted sensing where we really can’t don’t know what’s reality or not, and how we feel personally what reality is or not, if that makes sense.
I think I understand now what you mean by “one foot in the conscious, one foot in the unconscious.” It’s like (I think) when I’m observing a group setting from a distance and I’m aware of what’s going on yet I’m also developing a thread of thought in my head
The hunch makes sense too-I get that odd “knowing” in some situations where I can’t really describe what it is but I know it’s there. It can definitely be pretty powerful, so I always try to take time to acknowledge it
As an INFJ-empath, my own experiences have closely paralleled that of Susan Peters.
Sometimes, the images I get are not always clear, more like perceptions & impressions, while at other times they can be quite vivid & powerful. I don't do as well with people over the phone.
Along with picking up other people's emotions, I could ALMOST (but not quite) believe I can hear or "see" their unspoken words from time to time depending on their physical closeness, how emotionally intense they are at that moment, & other, more subtle factors. It all happens so naturally & easily, with little conscious effort on my part, I'm not sure I can express it in words understandable to someone else much less to myself.
Sometimes, I can experience a person from a distance as I observe them approach me. More often than not, I know what a person is going to say just before they say it, & it's sometimes fun to watch their reactions when I almost literally take the unspoken words right out of their unopened mouths. 😅
There are other things as well, but as I go back to re-read what I've just written, I wonder if I'm just slowly losing my INFJ mind.
I am an old INFJ, This is so interesting because there has never been a way to think of myself. My family has just referred to me as the person that will know what will happen. I am depressed and trying to understand why I know things that no one else knows.
Ive known three adulterous affairs that happened before anyone else ever knew. It is terribly frustrating to understand patterns in peoples behaviors and not being able to present them to the world. I find it's like walking around with x ray goggles, seeing many different things, yet not being able to articulate what it is you see. Like you, and many others, I try to not get depressed.
...and the post processing bit...defo...always doing post mortems especially if certain scenarios were not adding up or if I get vibes from people that question trust...ie not authentic etc.
indeed +Vitalgrooves
Very interesting about the eye contact! I recently filmed myself speaking and watching it back I was irritated how much I kept looking away - its the first time I've become aware that I do it. I'd like to train myself out of it. In those cases I look away simply because I don't say something without thinking about it first, so there is a delay while I do that. Other times it is because making direct eye contact for too long means I receive too much information from the other person at once and its overwhelming.
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I sometimes and experienced the opposite for too long and unfortunately i didnt understand what the weirdness i got out of the "staring contest" potentially meant. Looking away is certainly less offensive and intimidating in my opinion. Its polite not to judge and receive all of anothers characteristics because seeing is of course a sensor we have built in and a powerful one. "Seeing is believing"; if youve ever heard that quote perhaps helpful but a fool who is looking to prey upon you many times demands that attention of eye contact due to the fact they want your soul for their own and typically are the masters at that one simple minded sense of sight. Idk, prolly stronger than a good persons ever but I think they found one blessing and disregard the rest of the senses as merely ignorant. All i can know is when needed you may have to again do something you dont like but in regards to save yourself especially if alone show them they cant handle the truth nor maintain any sense of sanity if they dont respect your wishes just as you try the same for them.
Thank you too as its nice to hear through reading comments and so beautiful people practice #1 right if youre American. It represents the most sincere form of respect as too many folks perished to preserve that right amongst others. Just please be careful as with anything it seems to have its achilles heel. Thank you again :)
Often times I find eye contact helps me and I LOVE THAT, especially with someone who is being sincere and open and seems to be wanting to connect with me but if I feel they are being deceptive guarded or vague is when I find it hard to keep eye contact and honestly I’m not sure why ... I am thinking it helps me see them more clearly through their energy and voice and I can focus on what they say and don’t say and I get a less Diluted feel of the person not being completely open and real with me. I never thought about that until you have brought it up but yes I do that!
I also often look off and all around when I AM DOING THE TALKING... Though I never really thought about why... mostly trying to find the right words to say what I think and feel and I just can’t do that when focusing on one single direction ... hmmm got me wondering now😕
Scary accurate. I seem to have a lot of moments where I am searching for the right words to respond as mental images play in my head. It always feels as if my conscious mind is trying to catch up with even impressions from my subconscious.
This was so eloquently described... I keep smiling to myself as I learn more about why I act like I do...
Your eyes are deeply connected to your mind. Whether you're directing them, or they are locking onto details, both run counter to intuition. Relaxing your eyes and 'looking into space', in a way, is the intuitive normal. Eyes may wander, on their own, but that is inherently different from _looking._ Anyways I felt like clearing that up and no I don't know why or how I know so don't ask! Whenever I try and prove something to people it doesn't work, and how could it? Nothing can truly be proven.
One time, at lunch, I was staring off into space while I was talking to my friend (my eyes happened to land on my cookie), and my friend took my cookie and I didn't notice. He cracked up laughing because I didn't notice it was gone.
The Ni haze gaze :) +tehninjaepicness
+tehninjaepicness this is ridiculously relatable
This video is so valuable for us infjs I come back once in a while to remind me why I think that way or I do when I think and feel a bit lost Thank you for your video
I'm INTJ,
This works with me the same way but with ideas relating to future possibilities. Without any feelings, thats amazing...
Excellent video. All my life I thought this was simply a gift of discernment. This part of my personality has scared me and baffled those around me. I have walked into a public place more than once and walked up to complete strangers and told them exactly what was going on in their lives without knowing anything. I resigned as the pastor of a church one time and told two people that a particular young man in the church was going to be the pastor. The boy couldn't preach his way out of a paper sack, but somehow I knew he would take the reigns of the ship when I was out of the picture. When I expressed this to a few of my friends, they immediately thought I was crazy. I then went on to explain to them exactly how he would manage to do it. And six months later, the young man followed that track exactly down to the most minute detail and became pastor of the church. Several other men wanted to pastor the church, but he played his cards just right and it worked out to his advantage. I was the only person who saw the pieces of the puzzle and was able to put them together. These kind of things have happened in my life over and over again. I have overridden my initial gut feeling more that once and lived to regret it. You hit the nail on the head......ALWAYS TRUST THAT INITIAL INTUITIVE THOUGHT. I can't remember a time when it led me wrong. However, it has caused great stress on my closest relationships at times because of being misunderstood. Sometimes my wife doesn't understand how I feel at these moments. God bless!!
I always wondered why I don't really do eye contact and look away when talking to people. Makes sense.
I totally agree. We detach a bit from the situation, so that we can pick up on our intuition, feel etc about the situation. What pops into our heads is usually right!!!!!!
...great to hear someone describing the processing we actually have to go through! Thanks for sharing! 👍 :)
my pleasure Vitalgrooves
Yes. Eye contact can be “quite intense” and absolutely distracting. Thank you for putting all this together. It feels strange and relieving and exciting to watch someone explain this. I’ve tried to explain how I process information and it just doesn’t make sense to others.
I knew my entire life I was tapping into something in my mind, it gave me all the answers I needed to protect me, I am so in tune with it, and today I now have a name for it, thanks for the vid and the info 👍🏻
No problem!
I completely agree with you about speaking our way through Ni. Only lately discovering the power of my own voice, literally speaking out loud, has only led to good outcomes for me. I believe in power of words and the power of speaking things into existence, which is ironic because ive lived most of my life finding it very hard to talk. Also this idea of being quiet or taking up an empty quiet space is profound. I used to wonder what was wrong with me that i wasnt quicker, more snappy in my thoughts. Always felt this to be a flaw, little did i know it was Ni taking her sweet mega time. Thank you for this.
That’s great Olivia!
Olivia Rolipoli I'm not very good at small talk sometimes, I tend to only speak when I think there's something important I need to say.
"Trusting that something will emerge out of that hunch."
This is something I've noticed in myself during the last years. I find myself getting a hunch off an idea that I can't quite grasp, but I've noticed that as I begin to speak the "complete" understanding of the idea that I sensed emerges and takes form mid-air as I form the words. It's very interesting and feels very good. It hasn't always worked out though, sometimes I just end up trying to explore the idea, kind of clumsily, with logic.
I have talked to people, receiving a flash of a picture pertaining to their past. Very good insight, thankyou.
Yes, the intensity of eye contact. I can’t handle it. But others have said INFJs tend to stare.
It's 100% accurate. I relate to every single word
I totally get this.
I used to think that I was just a daydreamer. My old boss would ask "where did you go just then?" little did I know I was evaluating him, my situation atm and subconsciously tuning out any distractions.
I can read the room upon entering. People's vibes and energy seem to flow directly to my internal cpu... It took me 46 years to understand the real, true nature of what exactly is happening to me. Thanks for the upload 👍
Damn, your insight is so spot on. If I can muster the patience to listen, I am always greatly rewarded. You are an amazing thinker.
Okay, I'm hearing that the hunch - or FLAG - is something that is rapidly becoming a pattern or picture or connotation that we can briefly focus on and later use to form an entire understanding that most cannot achieve.
This is something that I often experience, but when I try to tell the normals about this, they cannot understand. I am a stranger in a strange land.
This is soo spot on. That postprocessing thing... omg, story of my life. It's all starting to make complete sense. The joy and Dot Connection Excitement rising up is almost unbearable! I'm off to send you some patreon$love... with deepest appreciation 😀🙏
Many thanks Noble Ones, great to hear the information is helpful and thank you for your support.
This is absolutely fantastic! You just explained MY MIND. Thank you so much for sharing this video, I haven't seen any before that explain how the Ni actually works. Cheers!
You are very welcome, glad you enjoyed it! Natalia Haniel
Scott I just discovered you here and loving it. It is true. We stand in both worlds in the other person and we feel how those worlds interact inside of them. We experience what other person does not know about themselves ♥️ this is a deep psychic connection yes
The "Blink" book by Malcom Gladwell would help a lot guys.
Thank you so much for this video I have been grieving about the lost of my Ni and lately I started to have hunhes very clear which made me happy
I think I am in the process of recovering my best friend Ni😂
I find that quick sentences that go through my mind, and they happen so quickly that I cannot record them, or speak them. It is as if the dots are being connected. We constantly learning. We never stop learning.
When you said "the eyes are the window to the soul". I use to say that all the time! Also, I have a hard time with eye contact. Even in a restaurant, my sister would scold me for not looking at the waitress!
So on the dot!! as an infj i appreciate your explanation of our introverted intution i could not understand myself/i can relate so much to the long quietness /the difficult eyes contact/the ah ah moments/the brief awareness /being at the same time in the concious and unconcious
This video just made me think about a good experience maybe to get what introverted intuition is about: sit down at a table face to face with another person but say nothing on both sides plus stay in silence and look at the other person intensely. Try to guess what the micro-expressions of this person mean and try to guess what the other person is thinking. Try to create a quiet atmosphere to connect deeply with your thoughts and your guessing skills. Of course it's a very awkward situation to experience and might be unbearable for some types but I think it's perfect to get the intense Ni concentration. Or try to find meanings into paintings, can also be very effective. I think we mostly have an intuitive connection with animals to be able to understand them and them to understand us because we can't use words to get what they think and want.
People have told me through the years that there is no way I could figure out the things I figure out. It took me a long time to realize my introverted intuition was truly a superpower, once I stopped resisting it.
I was recently trying to describe this to a friend recently. I struggled at explaining it. Ty!
my goodness, spot on!! looking for the right context.... also, with certain people under certain conditions, i've had my eyes close, and it was embarressing
It’s like talking is writing on a white board, it helps me « print » my sensation of being « on to something ».
I do this because I don’t want to make the person I’m looking at feel nervous by staring into there soul and seeing the dark secrets,
It Make them feel naked and vulnerable it’s for their benefit ...
Very clever guy I like your videos
Wow! Great video! This is so true. Even as a therapist I do look away as I am talking as if I’m waiting for the accurate words to communicate what I want. Also, eye contact is very intimate for me. I am aware I have an intense gaze and so I advert my gaze with strangers to avoid connecting intimately. Also, I’ve attracted men that I were not interested in by making eye contact briefly which can be quite inconvenient at times. 😆 if I’m quiet, I’m connecting dots. I like to say I communicate with a punch 🥊 of insight. I really appreciate the way you articulate everything.
Thank you!
INJJ male. This is hands down the best description of how I think and behave while interacting with others. From eye contact looking away, to the intensity of making eye contact. I feel I don't want to overpower the other person with my eye contact intensity. I have no idea if this is based on my own perception alone or if that's how others perceive it also.
I sent an email asking for a video description of Ne in action as an Ne would experience it. My closest friend is INTP and I want to know how their Ne works, how they perceive it, what they're focused on etc. Thanks. Looking forward to more videos.
Looking into peoples eyes can be at times a form of energy vampirism! People can hook into others energy field and then continue to take energy from said person even when not in their presence! This is why meditation, clearing work, spiritual baths are very important. It helps clear your energy inside and outside!
This man is the truth!
Very well said. Appreciate the insight. Helps tremendously. While I listen I imagine the processes coming together.
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wow!! thank you so much for making this video! I feel so understood and helps me identify why I unknowingly act a certain way
You're welcome!
Back with that introverted intuition/ it has been my radar since the beginning of my life and it's great we can sense people /places we can read in between the lines and for us it's so natural!! and we get warned /if we decide to go into that relationship/situation or not but at least we know in advance!!!
Absolutely delightful explanation
I see NI as an unconscious mental emulator
- couple with Te, it try to emulate the causality of the world around the user
- and couple with Fe, it tries to simulate the mind of other people.
Sometimes it's like I can request things of my Ni. If there's something I'm confused about or have an undeveloped "hunch" I can verbally request an answer, then I proceed about my time regularly and then I get flashes or images that let me know the "processing of my request" is happening then finally the "ah ha" moment and clarity is achieved.
OmGoodness...thank you very much...I too do the same thing!!🌺🙏❣
Powerful insights! Thanks Scott. I personally tried to write an explanation for myself--what Ni really is and how it works. But I really didn't know how to extrapulate it from my sub or unconscious into my conscious and bring it into written form. Although I did exactly that, I don't think I could put it so concisely and really explain it, even to myself.. it's just puzzling!
Ni is about taking general snapshots of ideas, concepts, systems (or almost anything, really) often bypassing the analysis of the details in between. Ni does this because it is trying to rapidly extract, from the subject in question, the essence or general "point" behind it, not bothering to ponder about details that are irrelevant to the general meaning of the subject or thought in question. In other words, Ni helps you extract the "jist" of something intuitively without having to go too deep into meticulous analysis; a shortcut that allows quick understanding, if you will.
INFJs then contextualize these different bits of information they have gathered through Ni to paint a larger whole, attempting to determine the grand MEANING of something.
Jesus Christ(INFJ), for example, loved to tell parables. Parables are ALL about extracting a MEANING from a story. Leaving out any details in the story that are irrelevant to the overall ESSENCE or lesson of the message is essential in telling an effective parable. this is what Ni is all about. It is about gathering general information which is then placed into a hypothetical bowl, in which the information is related to one another in a way that illustrates the essence or grander meaning of what the information implies within a wider context.
I often use images when I froze with words and the other person look puzzled like We are talking What this image? ME I feel embarrassed...
wow,remarkable insights, i'll prolly watch this more than once, thx.
That's great +Patrick Diederich
I've had conversations in the morning say, at three o'clock in the morning I'll wake up with this uncontrollably over whelming down load pouring into my head , like standing at the bottom of a waterfall and feeling the weight and being trapped there, it makes me feel sick and very ill . it'll last for a few minuets and up to an hour .
then I'll have a whole new perspective of the conversation and the person i had the conversation with .
i didn't realize it was coming from my subconscious in to my conscious .
Can INFJ use dreams as premonition and calculate when it can come true... I calulate in the numbers of 7. And usually comes true and as you have said, when I go into isolation or meditative mode, I feel energy more strongly...
The looking away when talking thing is me but how many other personality types do that? I've done that since I was a child, looking into someones eyes feels like we're touching.
the eye contact thing is way too intimate .
I have watched a few of your videos, and I have noticed how slow you move with pauses in the middle of your sentences. It takes you some time to complete a paragraph's worth of dialogue. I love your insights and your thoroughness in fleshing out your expressions in such an accurate manner, however, I think that it would be beneficial to write it down and present it all in a manner that doesn't create sluggishness in your presentation. I'm not a genius, but this has occurred to me. Love your material!
"comfortable nothingness" YAY, spot on :D
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Thank you for this video. you have described my experiences amazingly
That's great to hear Cherb1!
Eye contact isn’t a bad thing at all, it’s just something really touchy for us. It can be very uncomfortable or very amazing