Detroit 6V92 @2400RPM!! -- Screaming 2-stroke diesel -- gritando diesel de dos tiempos
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Gettin' back to work on the old Brigadier. Next up: passenger seat and other nonsense. Stay tuned.
Please Like and Subscribe!!
Bem-vindo à Garagem Crossthread. Aperte o botão e junte-se a nós. Muito mais está por vir.
Detroit has its own sound. I remember that from when my dad had one used for hauling new Toyota cars from the pier to the dealership in mid 70's . His was straight piped and had twin shifters . I knew he was coming home 20 minutes before he got there. I can hear it come through the valley
It was an 8V-92TA that made me fall in love with trucking back in the 80s. Awesome engines.
I just love the sound of a Detroit. Most ships I've worked on will have new efficient auxiliary engines some giant main engines and a old 16v92 fire pump engine cause when s@#$ gets real you need an engine you can start and beat the hell out of.
Two stroke diesels are the most efficient combustion engines.
I can only imagine that at sea, the sound of a Detroit engine pushing you toward the next port must be a comforting sound. They will not give up.
@@Schlipperschlopper
I doubt they are EFFICIENT, I drove trucks with the 2 stroke Detroits, and they got horrible fuel mileage compared to a MACK or CUMMINS. They sound good, but horsepower for horsepower, again MACK and CUMMINS beats the Detroit every time
@@bertgrau3934 Detroit Diesels are highly efficient at turning fuel into noise. I like that distinctive sound.
@@dantesinfernopurgatory7826
Sir, that is correct. I do like the noise myself
Learned to drive in a 79 GMC Astro with a 6v92 and a 9spd. Wasn’t the fastest thing around but ahhh the music it made. Drive good too.
Have to love the old classic sound of a Detroit, especially a 92 series.
Thanks for sharing.
Take care, EM.
We have an older gent that drives for us, he's around 70. He started driving trucks right after getting home from Vietnam. When we first got this GMC it was sitting outside of the shop Idling and as the old grumpy truck driver was walking past it, he couldn't help but open the door, reach in and give it a rev. A smile came to his face. I watched through the window of the door with my own smile. Peace.
O nice a Series 92 Silver. I can't wait to be able to swap one of these into my C7000 TopKick.
I've got a topkick here with a 3116 Cat. Single axle binder. It's a slush-o-matic also. 1990 I think. Old beast seems invincible. I think the turbo 6V would make it ridiculous,. In a good way. Peace.
@@tomscrossthreadgarage4183 yeah mine a auto. It's got a Allison MT643 4 Speed. Yeah I really want a 8V92T but I think it may be too large to cram in. I think I would use a 10 speed. Probably be enough gears for my truck considering it's just a fun truck don't need to do no real work.
@@TeamTopKick I'm thinkin' 13 speed cause these 2 strokes need a little help at the big end. And the definition of fun is split shifting a Detroit.
Best sounding engine every made!
I use to drive a 8v 71n in a K124 Kenworth, after 2 hours in the bastards that is enough!, BUT when you have to drive them for a 12 hour day, you were very tired and when I turned off the useless, gutless, screaming thing off,that was a gift !. I then drove the same model truck with a 350 cummims and there was no way would I ever get in detroit 2 stroke powered truck and drive it all day. The 350 Cummins had more Torque, a bit more Horsepower, it was better on fuel and was quieter, a pleasure to drive and no where near as tired. Noise causes fatigue over a period of time,like 12 hours for an example.
I have six 400 big cams, two 350's and a 290. I know what you mean.
Of course this an Allison step and glide, solid rears, and a 20k front end. Local pool water delivery all day long. No 12 hour shifts here and after hearing a trash pump run for a half hour the sound of a 6V might be pleasing? And truth is, with the absurdly large muffler I weasled under her, she's pretty quiet. Peace.
2:20 Mmm, I can already smell it
I have to say after I cut the muffler off our 1987 Dash Fire pumper, that 6v92Ta sounds like heaven until I have to us the radio to talk to county or have to give a scene size up 😂 I love your truck
Thanks, man! We love her too. I had the opportunity to run it open off the turbo. I had the doghouse out too. Holy loud as hell. We often run very late at night delivering pool water residentially because when they replaster a pool it has to be filled asap. Detroits sound cool, but at 2:00am they'll piss off even the most stable people. Check out this video where I installed an absolutely massive muffler under this beast. Peace. ruclips.net/video/_tga2Iw8OgM/видео.html
@@tomscrossthreadgarage4183 🤣 that’s awesome!!!!! Ours at first had no down pipe because it broke off the turbo so it just screamed in the cab with everyone in it 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I went and put a new down pipe but it got louder somehow and without the muffler you can feel it in your chest
❤
This sound is absolutely amazing !!!!!
Hermoso sonido
Realmente es un sonido hermoso, gracias. Paz.
There’s just something about a Detroit and an Aqua Velva man…lol
That 6v sounds beautiful!!!😏👍
Thanks brother. I think it sounds pleasing as well. Peace.
@@tomscrossthreadgarage4183 ✌🍻
Turning diesel fuel into beautiful sound...
Badass rig man
6v92 Detroits always sounds good
It's interesting how the internet works.
Today in class, we learned about 2 stroke engines, and it was the first time I found out that you got 2 stroke diesel engines.
That's the weirdest sounding thing I have ever heard. And I have heard wankel engines before.
Edit: Personally, I don't like two strokes one bit.
But, a two-stroke diesel sounds like a perfect match.
It would be interesting to see how two similar engines compare performance wise. 2 vs. 4 stroke.
You can probably see the difference in a game, forgot the name.
Well, just like the gasoline 2-strokes, these sure like to run wide open. The sound is the best part to me. I do however like 2-strokes in general, they're just a little more gnarly than a four stroke. Like an anger kinda thing. Peace.
Sounds good and faster to
Just the sound gives me joy
Non-ddec 6V92. Sounds almost like a 1981 Gillig Phantom.
Literally the same drivetrain. 6V92TA coupled to an HT740 Allison. Course this one has a much shorter throttle cable......
@@tomscrossthreadgarage4183 Yep! Exact same :) The idle time is just about the same too. The DDEC 6V92's idle higher. The muffler on this one sounds slightly different from the one in my 81 Phantom.
Mounted the muffler under the body. We run at night a lot so I tried to quiet her down as best I could. Has an absolutely massive counter-flow muffler that belongs on something else entirely, found it online. Six inch in and out and it's a about four feet long. Check it out at the end of ruclips.net/video/_tga2Iw8OgM/видео.html. Peace.
@@tomscrossthreadgarage4183 Nice! Still sounds real good lol. Sounds like one of those Donaldson mufflers for newer trucks and buses.
LOOKS like an old fire truck apparatus-- they use to use The silver series like what he's got here-- bet its hardly got any miles on it!!
23,600mi
A tanker from Parishville New York. Got from a logger that had a slasher mounted on the back. He never drove it down the road and the slasher leaked wicked bad. Narly hydraulic oil is very good at keeping antique truck frames from rusting. It's mint. Solid rears, no springs just rubber. 60k gvwr with a 20k front end.
@@tomscrossthreadgarage4183 ohh copy
That motor is still cold brother
Not cold. Bad Temp sender. Good lookin out though. Peace.
I love old Detroit's Have about 15 of them in a fleet of equipment I think your tack is off doesn't sound like it's revealing more than 2100 But I could be wrong
Trust me it is. I have another 92TA silver that is obviously different.
Como mola
Thank you bro.
Had a 318 in a 1974 cab over ford w model.
It’s the Brigideer
It's no General
WANTED: Driver's side inner fender for '84 Brigadier.
Still need an inner fender. Hmu.
What is better a blower or turbo
Both.
Nothing like that sound
well, there is the 12v. It sounds twice as nice.
Sounds like a Ford powerstroke v8 turbo diesel
Stop it.
Sounds nothing like that at all lmao
I wouldn’t trust that old mechanical tach 100%. But also, 2400 isn’t insane for a Detroit. They probably set the governor up a littler higher for emergency water pumping to get the max flow possible. Either way, it’ll take 2400 all day long and ask you for another.
That's exactly what's up. Didn't really dwell on the whole 2,400 thing because it kinda caught me off gaurd. But truth is it spins 2,500 effortlessly and yes, I'd call it WEP. Like in WW2 airplanes, War Emergency Power. And just because it can doesn't mean you should. But it's proving really hard to drive this thing nicely. Note, Auto trans shifts @2,400 full pedal. Never seen anything like it.
Nice Detroit sound. Interesting. I noticed the lack of a clutch pedal. Is this truck equipped with an Allison automatic?
It is indeed.
@@tomscrossthreadgarage4183 wow!!! That must be a really rare option. Most trucks of that era were manual if I'm not mistaken. Either a ten speed or thirteen speed. I thought only garbage trucks, or any other truck that stopped frequently were equipped with automatics.
@@michaelchan8915 She's an old fire truck. Not to privy on all the specifics yet, but from what I'm being told these Michigan bred FD rigs are special if not rare. Peace
And yeah, 15's and 13's. I've got a straight truck with a 13 speed 400 cummins. I can't imagine it with a Detroit. You'd be busy.
Back around 1983 PAM transport bought a few trucks with the V6 92 Detroit and 5 speed Allison, they were used for hauling freight. The engine didn't have enough power to reach maximum RPM in high gear. That's what I was told. I never drove one though.
People that like the 4 stroke diesels hate these engine's, I like em, I think the 2 cycle concept is interesting. I think design can be improved, if you can figure out a way to change the exhaust timing as the RPM's drop the power curve could be changed, (longer torque curve).i know on a 2 cycle the faster the engine turns the earlier the exhaust has to exit. If you look at most 2 cycles the exhaust opens at 90°, those big ship engines have a very long stroke to get around this problem, this is about the closest thing to having a 4 cycle fire every rev.
No money to be made on iron that lasts too long.
Yea Steve they are cool engines--
Anything more than a 6v in the 2 strokes were a fuel hog-- the 6vs did pretty good on sipping fuel--
They look and sound nice but for a road truck these days you're gonna want a nice stroke- low rpm torque--
D- series 60 is the best engine ever.
Cat c-15 first Gen 6nz--
Also a good N-14!!
I'm not that old ,and I got in the generator field in the late 90s.
Ask any older gen guy, we miss the response of those old 2 strokes , the 4 strokes are so laggy it's not even funny.
Whack a big ol 750kw gen with a 12v-71 with 100% load ,watch it recover by about 2-3 seconds.
A new 4 stroke is still "climbing the hill" after 4-5 seconds.
If you look up "Bivens 8V96" the things you wrote about were addressed. Intake ports moved down on custom liners, shortened connecting rods and revised rocker ratio for more lift on the exhaust valves plus a .200 longer stroke on the crank extended the power stroke and got the scavenging in line ( also retarded cam timing ). All these mods added 151 hp with the same injectors ( 735 hp marine spec 8v92TA went to 886 hp ). There's a patent paper about it
@@DustinNehlYour pretty much correct on saying the 6s are better on fuel. Matzke Diesel's 8V92TA is about 600hp and gets 6 mpg @ 80 000 pounds. Something like that. I love Detroit's myself and only the guys that know and run them correctly do any good with them. Merry Christmas.
How much power did the 6v92 make?
This one claims 335hp and 967ft./lbs of turks. It does have a turbo, as it is a 6V92TA. A 6v92 without a turbsky made 225hp with 737 ft./lbs of Turks. Qutite a bit more with the turbsky. This one was a fire truck and has been tickled a little, so it may make more. Peace.
DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE MACK E7 ENGINES? PS NEW SUBSCRIBER HERE AS WELL.
I know some. Just put cylinder heads on an e7 e-tec 400. What are you working on?
@@tomscrossthreadgarage4183 I have a 2002 mack vision sleeper truck ch 13 starts up runs fine for 30 seconds shuts off because it's reading no oil pressure well start right back up run fine then shut off again. I change the oil pump and the oil pressure sensor no difference rig has a million miles on it though
Yuck. I have had something like that in the past but not an oil pressure thing. I assume you have scanned it for codes? I was able to determine it was the fuel sender believe it or not. Had a similar situation with a coolant level sensor. My thoughts are that there's probably two oil pressure senders. Could be wrong. One for the ecm and one for the gage. All my info is at the shop and I'm not there until monday. I'll give it some thought and get back to you.
Does the gage read good?
And does it have Jakes?
*Dee-Troit.*
Funny, that's how I say it! They're made in Mee-chigan!
6V-71?
with the way the pipe comes up maybe a 6V92TA??
92TA. Cause a supercharger and a turbo is just better.
2 strokes rev faster iam assuming?
Well, not actually. The 2T detroit sure sounds like it's spinning faster than a 4 stroke but it is deceiving. Large diesels have a very comparable rev limit in reality. This 6v detroit makes it's power @ 2100 rpm, and that's pretty much where most big sixes run. Granted the Detroit likes to stay at that or above, but a mack engine for instance makes it's power at 2100 rpm as well. The big difference is in the sound they make. And of course if you lug a Detroit like you can lug a mack, the detroit falls on it's face. They don't really spin faster, they just need to keep spinning... Peace out.
What's this truck called?
Steve?
@@tomscrossthreadgarage4183 Is that collect answer for me? Is this truck called like GMC
Cannonball? or Mack R series? or Ford C.O.E.?
@@tvpoco8498 It's a GMC Brigadier. But you can call it whatever you want. Can you imagine a Mack R with a Detroit?
We call it Steve.
@@tomscrossthreadgarage4183 Yea I can. Even I imagine that truck with Detroit Diesel, maybe it will be good sound ever!!!
A Cummins can’t roar like this
Or drip.oil
Most engines drip oil, especially the older ones
@@steveconnell791 every Detroit drips oil
Not this one. Not a drop I swear. Had to re-seal the steering box, but this 6V might be the tightest in the world. Just a matter of time I suppose. Only 23,600 mi.
I gotta be honest. The Brigadier's got some onions. And she is an x fire truck so she should put out. But the 855 Cummins is onions with bacon. We'll find out how stout the Brig is when the water tank gets here. 4,250 gallons of American water goes on a GMC. Peace.