Hey Shane, after you finish all of the fire emblem retrospectives, can you do your personal ranking of the fire emblem games that were your most favorite and least favorite. Because it would be really amazing to see someones your opinion as you started out with old school fire emblem and ended with the modern ones.
Things that could have been added in this retrospective : - Hector mode and it's hard mode + it's point of view perspective. - The gaiden chapter this FE offers - Reference to FE6 characters (On the dessert chapter , if you visit a house , you might see Fae)
Hopefully he knows that Hector mode does have these changes. I mean, it's the only way to actually learn the motivation and backstory of the main antagonist.
The virgin Eliwood mode Vs the chad Hector mode Why, you may ask? Well, HM let's you promote Eliwood early, while Hector doesn't really need his promotion to be useful
I like the historically-inspired fantasy setting. Sacae = Saka / Sacae tribe of Eurasian steppe nomads (tribe of Buddha) Ostia = Austria (Osterreich in German) Hector = Hector, hero of Troy Uther = Uther Pendragon, father of King Arthur Athos = Mount Athos, the Holy Mountain, a monastic polity within Greece Nergal = Nergal, Akkadian/Babylonian god of destruction, war, and later also plague Ereshkigal = Ereshkigal, Sumerian Queen of the Underworld and wife of Nergal Durandal = Durandal, sword of the legendary hero Roland, a paladin of Charlemagne Bramimond = Bramimonde, a character in the Song of Roland ...and many more.
I think in general the gba games aged very well. Fantastic and memorable characters, got most players into fe in America, look beautiful, and much more
SOLDIER1st I personally started with sacred stones and it will forever be my favorite fe game. I’ve played it so many times now. But then o bought this game and also loved it. Lyn was def my fav!
Honestly, I appreciate the simplicity of the plot. It’s not always fantastic, but it’s chill, the characters are likeable, and it’s fun. Part of its issue is certainly the translation not being perfect, but it’s just a relaxing, fun, fantasy time.
Shane man I love these videos, I got into fire emblem heroes in 2017 and remember getting characters like Matthew and Florina. I then saw a video on RUclips and saw that I could download Fire emblem 7 on my wii u and that’s what I did. It was so nice to see characters like Florina and Matthew who I learned about on my phone appear in the game. I grew to love this game and I’ve played through it quite a number of times. I’ve been waiting so long for this to come out and I’m thankful you’re making this series, you’re awesome man
23:31 YES! I'm doing a similar project to you (except as a veteran and not an outsider) and that was exactly my reaction: while this game's story is iffy, its story*telling* raises the bar significantly compared to everything else that came before it.
@@samikshaavhad4868 well yeah, but I find it weird more so because you're killing a future ally. Even if you won't use her it seems like it'd kinda go against completing the game as much as possible.
@@2tehnik Yea, I killed her the first time I was playing bcuz the game shows no hints that she would be playable. Playing blind you would have no idea that she is recruitable
@@samikshaavhad4868 Man this comes late, but I actually did not attack her on my first playthrough because of two reasons: 1. The objective was survive and since this was like my second FE game I did not bother trying to go against the objective. 2. I took one look at her stats and thought: Nope. Not fighting her. To much trouble. So I guess these are the hints. But also not giving a hint is also fine in my eyes, because it puts weight on the choices someone makes. Also you have like two to four flying units at that point so it is not a total loss at least.
@@wombochrombo3610 Fe7 is incredibly easy, not "balanced". Or are you telling me that this map should be "balanced", lol? I'm referring to Battle before dawn, a map entirely based on RNG.
28:56 oh my god, I cannot express to you how much I wholeheartedly agree! I cannot stand the obsession with “new for the sake of new” that permeates so many fandoms now, purely because people either can’t hold their attention to a franchise for some reason or simply can’t recognise when they’ve simply had their fill. It’s the reason why people keep obsessing over Pokemon changing when all it ever needed was to provide a new well designed adventure with quality of life updates each time. And this naturally lead to gen 9’s incredibly disastrous release state.
This is the first game I've played. I am glad to see that it still stands in high regard by someone who is unaffected by nostalgia. It just confirms to me that it was a good FE game. I also like how you compare the story with the best one (in your oppinion and mine too) genealogy. Some other people asked already and I am also curios, after you finish them all make a list with your personal ranking of all fire emblem games.
I keep hearing people bash on FE7's story but they never explain why. I haven't played FE7 so I have to rely on what other people say. The story seems interesting to me from what I've heard but I don't know everything.
@@somethingwithultra7231 I do love a well written story but as long as you have interesting characters, worldbuilding and a bit of lore I should enjoy the story even if it has some holes/parts that don't make the most sense.
This game has such a great place in my heart. I remember playing it and being unable to beat Hector or eliwoods story's. So satisfying when i finally beat it as a teenager. And even more exciting to trash Hector Hard mode as an adult.
i've been watching this series since the beginning you've been doing a brilliant job with this series! i wish i could make it to the premiers but my timezone is radically different from yours.
There's just a certain charm about the GBA games that the newer ones have lost. Something about the art direction, keeping that fantasy/fairytale-esque aesthetic, and the stories taking twists and turns while building the characters... Oh how I miss the FE of yore...
This is actually my first Fire Emblem ever played, and I think they should have done a game about the actual Scouring itself, with the eight heroes as one of main characters. I dunno if there is already one made for it, but yeah I hope they will soon
This was my fisrt fire emblem and I still love it , it is more limited in some aspects compared to modern Fire emblems, but the core mechanics are here and it is fun , it is challenging (unlike sacred stones) and in my opinion has a great cast of characters.
I find the game limited even compared to the SNES Fire Emblem games tbh. The GBA games are just very minimalistic compared to the rest of the series besides the NES games and maybe FEH.
@@hylianfelldragon1308 ironically FEH is easily the most complex game in the series even tho there's not even accurasy, magic stat or crits in that game.
Came here from being near the end of Engage and not being able to shake the fact that it was missing something important.. Subscribed because this game was my first FE game and was my base line for all other games in the franchise I played afterwards, including the ones that came out before this one 🤣. Radiant Dawn and Echos of Valentia videos will be my next to watch 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@WhiteInk47 actually that's r slash wosh to you because he asked a dumb question that anyone that actually played fe7 would already know the answer to
@@MrCow-mp8ru no they didn't asshole. Dorcas was a f-tier unit whose viability fades out after the first chapter he's recruited, but Dorcas's whole arc was him needing the money to help his sick wife. In his ending slide, which you would know if you actually played the game, it is revealed that him and his wife had a happy ending in Bern. Stop spreading misinformation, you jackass
Never really understood the plot criticism for this game? I found it to be great, then again the vast majority of my experience with it is in my enamored childhood playthroughs
I actually like how this game fleshed out the political instability that led to the war of its prequel. Nergal and the Black Fang destabilized Bern by exacerbating King Desmond's paranoia which in turn would cause Zephiel to instigate the Second Scouring.
Hearing this game called most people in the wests first was really surprising to me lol, I couldn't read when this came out let alone play, and p much everyone IK irl who plays FE is younger than me while people who wouldve been old enough to play at the time preferred computer games or hadnt picked up gaming as a hobby yet, personally my first was FE8 and the rest of the players I know started in 3DS era! Neat how general age range can affect perspective like that!
I think the want for "innovation" in games is a very modern idea. In the times of FE6 and FE7 I think it would have been more accepted to have similar games, as long as they didn't come out too close to each other. Which back in the day was also not a huge issue. Heck even today I would argue that too much innovation can be detrimental to a series.
Shit, this entire video got me nostalgic... Lyn, Eliwood, Hector, Nils, Ninian, Pent, Louise, goddamn, if only my GBA still worked. Oh well, thak god for the VBA. I also never understood why people did the whole "planning support pairs" in the GBA Emblem games. I never cared for it. I mainly did Support when I found out that certain units had Paired Endings. My all time favorite pairs in the GBA Emblem 7 are: Hector/Lynn or Florina or Farina Eliwood/Ninian - the only pair I consider "canon" Sain/Fiora Erk/Serra Guy/Priscilla or Erk/Priscilla Lucius/Raven Canas/Nino or Nino/Jaffar Rebecca/Lowen Rath/Lyn
This question isn't related to this video, but I was curious about something in Fire Emblem 5. What did you think when August was telling Leif about Seliph and August said that people were working to turn Seliph into the hero he has become? I'm asking because Seliph being setup to succeed by certain powerful people was one of your critiques of generation 2's story. Obviously, I'm not trying to say that them acknowledging a weakness in the prior game's story therefore fixes that weakness. I merely want to know if you got some sort of satisfaction, even very slight satisfaction, in picking out a story flaw that even the developers decided to address. Though of course them mentioning it doesn't mean they admit it was a flaw, but whatever, this question is getting too complicated now. :P
If one were to look at Seliph's perspective in FE4, it's best that he doesn't know that he was to inevitably succeed. Plus, having Lewyn's machinations revealed in Thracia 776 instead of FE4 is a good means to show that he shows a facade whilst he's with Seliph. I can relate it to FE4 being like Eliwood Mode, whereas FE5 is like Hector Mode.
Thing that annoys me about Lyn mode though is that is basically makes or breaks Kent, Sain and (to an extent) florina. I prefer Kent and Sain as characters to lowen but is so hard to use them without Lyn mode.
@@nachohangover5104 Lyn Mode is a fucking terrible tutorial, is the thing. Not only is it forced on you and it lasts far longer than it should, but it also thinks the best way to show you how to perform an action is to grab your controller and force you to perform that action.
Mekkah is my favorite FE RUclipsr. But when he made the series about FE7 left a bad taste in my mouth. Mekkah is still the only FE RUclipsr I consistently watch. I subbed immediately to this channel when he kept dishing up this great series. Keep up the good work ShaneBrained.
My thoughts on Fe 7: I would actually argue it’s the best game to start out with. For the reason being it’s simply to understand and there’s no skills or anything too complex. Hector hard mode gives a pretty good challenge without it being cheap. While yes you can absolutely cheese this game with Marcus, the game doesn’t really expect first time players to do that or any mad LTC strats. As far as plot goes to be honest: It’s definitely not the best and it has it’s glaring problems, but the cast of characters and (mostly) sympathetic villains more than make up for it. However one of my biggest complaints on this game is Lyn just her entire existence just frustrates me to no end. Mostly because she’s not in Fe 6 anything she does or any development she gets just feels wasted and honestly the game would be better off without her and she’s also really boring as a character(her gameplay doesn’t help her case either). Don’t even get my started on the shipping wars. I still must say with all that in mind it’s still a really fun and enjoyable game. Overall I give it 7/10
I'd rather shoot it down to 6/10. While I agree with most of what you say. The deeper you bite into the story the more it crumbles onto itself. This probably my bias because I played through the game over and over in one sitting to 100% the support library. The flaws are really glaring
Good video, the map variety in this game was a mixed bag in terms of execution (Battle Before Dawn being an awful map to play regardless of difficulty for example) and did u play HHM by any chance?
Battle Before Dawn is hard because GREEN UNITS! Otherwise. It's probably the best designed map in the game besides that. Difficult, yes, but well designed.
@@vanjagalovic3621 I said Nino and Jaffar are the reason that map sucks. I didn't defend the total RNG-fest they can be. If they weren't there or if they weren't random or suicidal, I think it would be a very well designed map.
Two things: pretty sure the 2x effective damage in FE7 is a bug yeah? There are some other wonky moments that make me think something happened with the international release and just wasn't fixed. And you didn't play Hector Hard Mode??? Damn that's the real meat of this entry Shane.
Considering FE9 also has x2 effective might and began development after FE7, it's more likely that x2 was a design choice that the Japanese team decided on, but the B team that made FE8 either didn't agree with, or wasn't informed of in time.
I found that a good touch. How politics are what is preventing countries from taking part in an all-in approach against Nergal. So it was up to those in the outside of those politics that was able to take part in the secret conflict.
@Wil E They were part of Nergal's plan unfortunately, in which the organisation crumbled from the inside. A shame too that it did. What I did find most satisfying though, is Hector's role in the grand scheme of things. He was basically an outside influence to the plot. Someone who wasn't constrained to politics like Nergal. Hence why Nergal states that Hector was his "greatest miscalculation".
Yeah, there weren't any sweeping changes like last time to really get into, so this one is a bit quicker. FE8 is also around 30 minutes long, but for a different reason
With every new video I'm looking forward to the next with more anticipation. Will you enjoy the Tellius games (while shitting on FE10s support system and the "unique and exciting" map objectives of part 4)? What will your gameplay view of FE12 look like? And how much of a shitshow are Awakening and Fates going to be? You still have several FE entries ahead of you but I would like to see a review of the series as a whole at some point discussing the heights and lows of the series from your perspective. :P
@@GamesBrained They don't force you to use it? If you give it to Lyn, does she keep it? The first time I played Eliwood's mode, they gave her units new items when they were re-introduced and the old ones didn;t carry over.
Fire Emblem 7 that was the first Fire Emblem game to ever be released into the west, would not have been a successful release on the GBA if it were not for Marth and Roy being characters in Smash Bros Melee. That is perhaps my honest opinion of this game and to me, this was my first Fire Emblem experience as I am sure others who were around my age would also have to agree with if they were Smash Bros Melee fans and first knew of the Fire Emblem series thanks to Marth and Roy from that Smash Bros game. I did my research at the time back then thanks to gaming mags, so I knew all about the difficulty and permanent deaths that gamers would have to expect while playing the older Fire Emblem games especially on emulators. Thankfully for newer gamers to the series, the option to play Casual mode or Classic mode is one I honestly think is a good idea to give newer fans a fresh introduction with Casual mode and give them an option if they are good enough to take the challenge to play their second playthrough to try the Classic mode so they can try to play Fire Emblem the way it was traditionally made.
the only valid criticism of the story I've ever seen is Ninian's revival feeling cheap. any "plot hole" that's brought up can easily be refuted by reading the script of the game. everything else is either a minor nitpick, a mistranslation, or someone who's just ontologically opposed to the concept of prequels
I actually got really invested in Lyn’s story, and for it to be ripped away after 10 chapters made me so annoyed - after emotionally investing - that I’ve still never played the game through lol. Eliwood is a bit dull :/
@@lpfan4491 Disagree, honestly. Lundgren had all of the characterization of a piece of toast with an angry face drawn on it with Nutella. Nergal sucks, but at least he's SOMETHING.
Sorry. I'm only about four minutes into the vid, but I've gotta take off real quick to replay this game. I'll be back to watch the rest of this video when I'm done tho. 🤙
I’m confused by your comments about the translation. I had the original GBA release and noticed a ton of spelling errors in your footage not present in my copy. Also, you keep saying the story is bad, but don’t really go into why it’s bad. I think it’s one of the strongest stories in the series. Very disappointed in the lack of analysis compared to your other vids
Yeah I honestly haven't personally seen anyone complain about the story of the game myself, I've played 4 or 5 FE games and I think blazing blade is the one I consider to be "the standard" on basically everything except it isn't as difficult as it should be, I think when you select hard mode It should ACTUALLY be hard.
The EU/PAL version of the game has a very sloppy translation, he's playing that version and not the NA release. And the story ISN'T bad, the community has just been swayed by an UNWATCHABLE analysis/critique video by popular FE RUclipsr Mekkah that blatantly RIPS OFF Red Letter Media and makes almost no good points. I like quite a bit of Mekkah's content, but that particular series is abhorrent, nitpicking, BULLSHIT that is also hard to watch and it is sad how much it has affected the opinion of the FE community on the topic of FE7's story, IMO.
A good chunk of errors actually do originate in the NA-release. Like the downright translationerrors, Nergal being misspelled as Negal(or something like that, don't remember) once, abilities being misspelled, etc. I know because I have seen those errors in FEBuilder and I can't have accidentially opened an EU-rom because that tool doesn't support those. Heck, the EU-release actually corrected some of the errors in the NA-release. Also, what's so wrong about a good amount of points in Mekkah's videos? Sure, the videos ARE kinda bad because of the forced "comedy", but I don't see the bigger issue with putting emphasis on how the story fails to have a logical throughline and contradicts FE6.
@@GambitX37 Just FE7? The entire fandom criticizes the games based on popular youtubers opinion and redditors/serene forest users lol I literally see FE fans complaning about every game and say as if they were the worst thing that ever existed, and most of the time they overexaggerate a lot or just want every FE game to have JRR Tolkien level of writting and Worldbuilding and be the best game of all time
fe7 has a hot mess of a main story, yes, but i still like its writing when it shows side stories like nino and jaffars stuff, and the supports are generally good, every character feels like they have depth even if the depth does not matter
I believe it is called "ride with us", and I think it's the "recruitment" song that plays when someone in the story is joining you or a unit on the map bring recruited by you
@@yunuss58 I assume Manuel is referring to 25:35, Mekkah made a full series going through the plot of FE7 and it was called the worst thing since my son. I'd suggest watching it and it's hilarious piece, one of my favourites from Mekkah
29 min mark, nah it would of been fine, FE needed stability its not just "well the series always changed", its that it did so every time it hit a road block and never refined an idea but made new problems - especially once its main head left and the series became aimless the series needed this consistency of gba games or it be dead right now (though honestly its kinda is still given the terrible direction we're going in now)
Basically nothing. It's basically just contrarianism because too many people liked this game for its story for too long so it became sort of hip counterculture a couple of years ago.
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"the worst thing since their son"
I understood that reference.
a fellow man of culture i see
reference funni
Pitfall
His son fell into a pitfall
Glad someone got the reference.
15 seconds in and we’ve already asked what happened to Dorcas.
*I’m ready*
Hey Shane, after you finish all of the fire emblem retrospectives, can you do your personal ranking of the fire emblem games that were your most favorite and least favorite. Because it would be really amazing to see someones your opinion as you started out with old school fire emblem and ended with the modern ones.
Things that could have been added in this retrospective :
- Hector mode and it's hard mode + it's point of view perspective.
- The gaiden chapter this FE offers
- Reference to FE6 characters (On the dessert chapter , if you visit a house , you might see Fae)
Hopefully he knows that Hector mode does have these changes. I mean, it's the only way to actually learn the motivation and backstory of the main antagonist.
The virgin Eliwood mode Vs the chad Hector mode
Why, you may ask? Well, HM let's you promote Eliwood early, while Hector doesn't really need his promotion to be useful
It could've been added into the retrospective.
Whether or not it's a flaw to lock imperative information behind another difficulty... Depends.
Also the secret dialogue between Nergal and Renault on Hector Mode. I remember I got a chill on my spine when I saw this from out of nowhere.
@@mcihay246 Locking info behind 19xx definitly is tho.
I like the historically-inspired fantasy setting.
Sacae = Saka / Sacae tribe of Eurasian steppe nomads (tribe of Buddha)
Ostia = Austria (Osterreich in German)
Hector = Hector, hero of Troy
Uther = Uther Pendragon, father of King Arthur
Athos = Mount Athos, the Holy Mountain, a monastic polity within Greece
Nergal = Nergal, Akkadian/Babylonian god of destruction, war, and later also plague
Ereshkigal = Ereshkigal, Sumerian Queen of the Underworld and wife of Nergal
Durandal = Durandal, sword of the legendary hero Roland, a paladin of Charlemagne
Bramimond = Bramimonde, a character in the Song of Roland
...and many more.
Ostia is probably based off of the port that is linked to Rome with the same name.
Ostia was a Roman city as well.
Mani Kati is an Italian tube-shaped pasta
I think in general the gba games aged very well. Fantastic and memorable characters, got most players into fe in America, look beautiful, and much more
The gameplay, animations, and characters aged like fine wine
Fe8 has some of the most silky smooth animations ive ever seen and it took until 3H to get anything close
RealityMasterRogue *Echoes, imo.
It was the one I started with too. Actually, it was Heroes, but that doesn't count.
SOLDIER1st I personally started with sacred stones and it will forever be my favorite fe game. I’ve played it so many times now. But then o bought this game and also loved it. Lyn was def my fav!
I'm going to forget this exists and then it'll premiere and I'll be crazy excited again
You forgot the most amazing innovation in the franchise
Mines
Simon-Pierre Dupuis big brain
Mines? I think you mean mind control devices.
Mines? You mean the "Jabaited" button?
You mean free money?
oh man, the mine glitch was amazing
Wow, now that you mention it... I remember the characters more than the events of the story.
This was the game that got me into Fire Emblem. You can thank Marty and Roy for it since they were in Smash Melee
Honestly, I appreciate the simplicity of the plot. It’s not always fantastic, but it’s chill, the characters are likeable, and it’s fun. Part of its issue is certainly the translation not being perfect, but it’s just a relaxing, fun, fantasy time.
Shane man I love these videos, I got into fire emblem heroes in 2017 and remember getting characters like Matthew and Florina. I then saw a video on RUclips and saw that I could download Fire emblem 7 on my wii u and that’s what I did. It was so nice to see characters like Florina and Matthew who I learned about on my phone appear in the game. I grew to love this game and I’ve played through it quite a number of times. I’ve been waiting so long for this to come out and I’m thankful you’re making this series, you’re awesome man
23:31 YES! I'm doing a similar project to you (except as a veteran and not an outsider) and that was exactly my reaction: while this game's story is iffy, its story*telling* raises the bar significantly compared to everything else that came before it.
There is one thing you forgot was added to the gameplay in this one. The rain and snow, both of which sorta suck.
They don't really make much of a difference either, they mostly just make the game slower.
LOL you haven't played Advance Wars enough
33:32 yo this guy actually killed vaida on unfulfilled heart
It's tedious but can be done actually
@@samikshaavhad4868 well yeah, but I find it weird more so because you're killing a future ally. Even if you won't use her it seems like it'd kinda go against completing the game as much as possible.
@@2tehnik Yea, I killed her the first time I was playing bcuz the game shows no hints that she would be playable. Playing blind you would have no idea that she is recruitable
@@samikshaavhad4868 yeah I suppose that's fair. Maybe that's what Shane did.
@@samikshaavhad4868 Man this comes late, but I actually did not attack her on my first playthrough because of two reasons:
1. The objective was survive and since this was like my second FE game I did not bother trying to go against the objective.
2. I took one look at her stats and thought: Nope. Not fighting her. To much trouble.
So I guess these are the hints. But also not giving a hint is also fine in my eyes, because it puts weight on the choices someone makes. Also you have like two to four flying units at that point so it is not a total loss at least.
This One Is By Far My Favorite In The Series
Same
I wish FE7 and 8 kept the difficulty and enemy scaling of FE6.
@Wil E Chapter 7: this difficulty
FE6 felt artificially difficult at times. FE7 was balanced.
some of fe6 had artificial difficulty. Like every boss on a stupidly annoying throne, or ambush spawns.
@@wombochrombo3610 Sacae route in FE6 is just bullshit difficulty. It relies too much on luck and rng.
@@wombochrombo3610 Fe7 is incredibly easy, not "balanced".
Or are you telling me that this map should be "balanced", lol?
I'm referring to Battle before dawn, a map entirely based on RNG.
28:56 oh my god, I cannot express to you how much I wholeheartedly agree!
I cannot stand the obsession with “new for the sake of new” that permeates so many fandoms now, purely because people either can’t hold their attention to a franchise for some reason or simply can’t recognise when they’ve simply had their fill.
It’s the reason why people keep obsessing over Pokemon changing when all it ever needed was to provide a new well designed adventure with quality of life updates each time. And this naturally lead to gen 9’s incredibly disastrous release state.
I KNEW your voice sounded familiar, but couldn't put it together until the end of the video that you were the Warrior's Dojo guy.
So excited for this video! Fe7 is my first fe game that i played and i love the series as a whole since!
Actually just bought a reproduction cartridge for this game so I’m excited to watch this tomorrow.
My second favorite game in the series. Good video.
Who else started replaying FE games after you started this series???
This game got me into Fire Emblem, and I still love it. Maybe the story isn't the best of FE, but imo it's still a great game.
This is the first game I've played. I am glad to see that it still stands in high regard by someone who is unaffected by nostalgia. It just confirms to me that it was a good FE game. I also like how you compare the story with the best one (in your oppinion and mine too) genealogy. Some other people asked already and I am also curios, after you finish them all make a list with your personal ranking of all fire emblem games.
I keep hearing people bash on FE7's story but they never explain why. I haven't played FE7 so I have to rely on what other people say. The story seems interesting to me from what I've heard but I don't know everything.
@@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon It's one of those things where alot of the details of it kinda makes you realize it's not too well written overall.
@@somethingwithultra7231 I do love a well written story but as long as you have interesting characters, worldbuilding and a bit of lore I should enjoy the story even if it has some holes/parts that don't make the most sense.
@@somethingwithultra7231 I'm genuinely curious, do you have any examples?
@@paulbutkovich6103 There's an entire series of some reasonable examples (ofcourse not entirely without it's flaws itself) that kinda covers it.
Sacred stones was my first Fire emblem
This game has such a great place in my heart. I remember playing it and being unable to beat Hector or eliwoods story's. So satisfying when i finally beat it as a teenager. And even more exciting to trash Hector Hard mode as an adult.
i've been watching this series since the beginning you've been doing a brilliant job with this series! i wish i could make it to the premiers but my timezone is radically different from yours.
I’d like to see a remake that combines Blazing Blade with Binding Blade and implements a Geneology of the Holy War-style system of inherited skills.
One problem is that would be a gigantic game.
20+ chapters for each generation.
@@kamdenmadan3289 how is that a problem? 🙃
Thank you for this video, I've played this but forgotten all the story and needed a reminder
There's just a certain charm about the GBA games that the newer ones have lost. Something about the art direction, keeping that fantasy/fairytale-esque aesthetic, and the stories taking twists and turns while building the characters... Oh how I miss the FE of yore...
could've swore this was the first FE to not have those shitty ambush reinforcements. surprised you didnt mention that
This is actually my first Fire Emblem ever played, and I think they should have done a game about the actual Scouring itself, with the eight heroes as one of main characters. I dunno if there is already one made for it, but yeah I hope they will soon
Yes! Eight heroes each providing a different ending to the game.
This was my fisrt fire emblem and I still love it , it is more limited in some aspects compared to modern Fire emblems, but the core mechanics are here and it is fun , it is challenging (unlike sacred stones) and in my opinion has a great cast of characters.
I find the game limited even compared to the SNES Fire Emblem games tbh. The GBA games are just very minimalistic compared to the rest of the series besides the NES games and maybe FEH.
@@hylianfelldragon1308 ironically FEH is easily the most complex game in the series even tho there's not even accurasy, magic stat or crits in that game.
34:54 I see you're super cultured
Came here from being near the end of Engage and not being able to shake the fact that it was missing something important..
Subscribed because this game was my first FE game and was my base line for all other games in the franchise I played afterwards, including the ones that came out before this one 🤣.
Radiant Dawn and Echos of Valentia videos will be my next to watch 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
The question on everyone's mind is.
Wuh happen to Dorcas?
Dorcas went on to care for his sick wife. It's in the credits, idiot
@White_American_Male r/Whoosh
@@WhiteInk47 actually that's r slash wosh to you because he asked a dumb question that anyone that actually played fe7 would already know the answer to
They put poison in his mutton
@@MrCow-mp8ru no they didn't asshole. Dorcas was a f-tier unit whose viability fades out after the first chapter he's recruited, but Dorcas's whole arc was him needing the money to help his sick wife. In his ending slide, which you would know if you actually played the game, it is revealed that him and his wife had a happy ending in Bern. Stop spreading misinformation, you jackass
You are doing Gods work.
"Iconic"!
Can't wait for When we inevitably get to Fates
Conquest wasn't that bad gameplay-wise honestly. I had so much fun with it and it was actually pretty well-balanced difficulty-wise.
Never really understood the plot criticism for this game? I found it to be great, then again the vast majority of my experience with it is in my enamored childhood playthroughs
I actually like how this game fleshed out the political instability that led to the war of its prequel. Nergal and the Black Fang destabilized Bern by exacerbating King Desmond's paranoia which in turn would cause Zephiel to instigate the Second Scouring.
I still love this game.
Hearing this game called most people in the wests first was really surprising to me lol, I couldn't read when this came out let alone play, and p much everyone IK irl who plays FE is younger than me while people who wouldve been old enough to play at the time preferred computer games or hadnt picked up gaming as a hobby yet, personally my first was FE8 and the rest of the players I know started in 3DS era! Neat how general age range can affect perspective like that!
Sain is, and always will be, mah boi.
I think the want for "innovation" in games is a very modern idea. In the times of FE6 and FE7 I think it would have been more accepted to have similar games, as long as they didn't come out too close to each other. Which back in the day was also not a huge issue.
Heck even today I would argue that too much innovation can be detrimental to a series.
I like how you paired hector and Lyn 😁
Eliwood Killing Ninian was one of the most disturbing scene in the Franchise
Shit, this entire video got me nostalgic...
Lyn, Eliwood, Hector, Nils, Ninian, Pent, Louise, goddamn, if only my GBA still worked. Oh well, thak god for the VBA.
I also never understood why people did the whole "planning support pairs" in the GBA Emblem games. I never cared for it. I mainly did Support when I found out that certain units had Paired Endings. My all time favorite pairs in the GBA Emblem 7 are:
Hector/Lynn or Florina or Farina
Eliwood/Ninian - the only pair I consider "canon"
Sain/Fiora
Erk/Serra
Guy/Priscilla or Erk/Priscilla
Lucius/Raven
Canas/Nino or Nino/Jaffar
Rebecca/Lowen
Rath/Lyn
I must say, this and Awakening are probably objectively the best fire Emblem games, this one and genealogy are my personal favorites.
This question isn't related to this video, but I was curious about something in Fire Emblem 5. What did you think when August was telling Leif about Seliph and August said that people were working to turn Seliph into the hero he has become? I'm asking because Seliph being setup to succeed by certain powerful people was one of your critiques of generation 2's story.
Obviously, I'm not trying to say that them acknowledging a weakness in the prior game's story therefore fixes that weakness. I merely want to know if you got some sort of satisfaction, even very slight satisfaction, in picking out a story flaw that even the developers decided to address.
Though of course them mentioning it doesn't mean they admit it was a flaw, but whatever, this question is getting too complicated now. :P
If one were to look at Seliph's perspective in FE4, it's best that he doesn't know that he was to inevitably succeed.
Plus, having Lewyn's machinations revealed in Thracia 776 instead of FE4 is a good means to show that he shows a facade whilst he's with Seliph.
I can relate it to FE4 being like Eliwood Mode, whereas FE5 is like Hector Mode.
I time I came this early, people said Lyn mode was good.
Nick Tauro nobody says that, your friends lie to you
To be fair Lyn mode does its job well.
But that job is being a tutorial.
Lyn mode is good. It's basically a tutorial after all.
Thing that annoys me about Lyn mode though is that is basically makes or breaks Kent, Sain and (to an extent) florina. I prefer Kent and Sain as characters to lowen but is so hard to use them without Lyn mode.
@@nachohangover5104 Lyn Mode is a fucking terrible tutorial, is the thing. Not only is it forced on you and it lasts far longer than it should, but it also thinks the best way to show you how to perform an action is to grab your controller and force you to perform that action.
Leila. :(
You can use her in heroes ;)
Mekkah is my favorite FE RUclipsr. But when he made the series about FE7 left a bad taste in my mouth. Mekkah is still the only FE RUclipsr I consistently watch.
I subbed immediately to this channel when he kept dishing up this great series. Keep up the good work ShaneBrained.
YOU FORGOT ABOUT THIS GAMES GREATEST ADDICTION
Monks
Yoooo where's that artwork from at the opening of chapter 2? It's beautiful.
Beautiful mess is an accurate description of this game, it has some notable lows but the highs are amazing.
I’ll take FE7’s story over FE6’s any day of the week.
My thoughts on Fe 7: I would actually argue it’s the best game to start out with. For the reason being it’s simply to understand and there’s no skills or anything too complex. Hector hard mode gives a pretty good challenge without it being cheap. While yes you can absolutely cheese this game with Marcus, the game doesn’t really expect first time players to do that or any mad LTC strats. As far as plot goes to be honest: It’s definitely not the best and it has it’s glaring problems, but the cast of characters and (mostly) sympathetic villains more than make up for it. However one of my biggest complaints on this game is Lyn just her entire existence just frustrates me to no end. Mostly because she’s not in Fe 6 anything she does or any development she gets just feels wasted and honestly the game would be better off without her and she’s also really boring as a character(her gameplay doesn’t help her case either). Don’t even get my started on the shipping wars. I still must say with all that in mind it’s still a really fun and enjoyable game. Overall I give it 7/10
I'd rather shoot it down to 6/10. While I agree with most of what you say. The deeper you bite into the story the more it crumbles onto itself.
This probably my bias because I played through the game over and over in one sitting to 100% the support library. The flaws are really glaring
@@irtijaadib42069 No, it’s better than that and you know it.
Surprised you didn’t talk about Advance Wars, since that game was also directly responsible for bringing the series westward.
The first game I got on my SP I had no idea what I was in for, such a masterpiece.
Ah yes... My first Fire Emblem game... Hello again, old friend!
Into the west...
YEEHAW!!!!!
Good video, the map variety in this game was a mixed bag in terms of execution (Battle Before Dawn being an awful map to play regardless of difficulty for example) and did u play HHM by any chance?
Battle Before Dawn is hard because GREEN UNITS! Otherwise. It's probably the best designed map in the game besides that. Difficult, yes, but well designed.
@@vanjagalovic3621 I said Nino and Jaffar are the reason that map sucks. I didn't defend the total RNG-fest they can be. If they weren't there or if they weren't random or suicidal, I think it would be a very well designed map.
I love this story. Hector shoulders so much. I ship him and Lyn every playthrough without fail too.
Two things: pretty sure the 2x effective damage in FE7 is a bug yeah? There are some other wonky moments that make me think something happened with the international release and just wasn't fixed. And you didn't play Hector Hard Mode??? Damn that's the real meat of this entry Shane.
Considering FE9 also has x2 effective might and began development after FE7, it's more likely that x2 was a design choice that the Japanese team decided on, but the B team that made FE8 either didn't agree with, or wasn't informed of in time.
I have emulator for gba
And I'm Still playing FE7
one of the things i noticed is fe 7 does not even feel like a fe plot. it feels like a normal jrpg story. there isnt really a war being fought either.
I found that a good touch.
How politics are what is preventing countries from taking part in an all-in approach against Nergal.
So it was up to those in the outside of those politics that was able to take part in the secret conflict.
@Wil E They were part of Nergal's plan unfortunately, in which the organisation crumbled from the inside. A shame too that it did.
What I did find most satisfying though, is Hector's role in the grand scheme of things.
He was basically an outside influence to the plot.
Someone who wasn't constrained to politics like Nergal.
Hence why Nergal states that Hector was his "greatest miscalculation".
@Wil E The devs explicitly took inspiration from Hector when writing Ike due to Hector's popularity.
I really enjoy these videos but a little part of me dies inside every time you pronounce "marquis" as mar-qwiss and not mar-kee. LOL
batta the beast is still the best first boss in all of fire emblem
Love these videos! Is the shorter length due to the lack of changes between FE6 and FE7?
Yeah, there weren't any sweeping changes like last time to really get into, so this one is a bit quicker. FE8 is also around 30 minutes long, but for a different reason
Sacret stones is next and is probably the beggining of the best parts of the series.
Sacred stones is my favorite game in the series
Me too
im so excited for this
Yessss!! My favorite Fire Emblem game ♥️
25:33 Was that a RLM reference?
25:32 heh I see you too are a man of culture
18:33 where are ninian and nils born? I can't understand.
22:40 FE7 Story
With every new video I'm looking forward to the next with more anticipation. Will you enjoy the Tellius games (while shitting on FE10s support system and the "unique and exciting" map objectives of part 4)? What will your gameplay view of FE12 look like? And how much of a shitshow are Awakening and Fates going to be? You still have several FE entries ahead of you but I would like to see a review of the series as a whole at some point discussing the heights and lows of the series from your perspective. :P
Awakening is a shit-show??
After you beat the game, can you select Hector mode after doing Lyn's mode? Or are you forced to do Eliwood's again?
You can jump right to Hector mode
@@GamesBrained Is there an incentive to redo Lyn's mode before Hector mode? Like would it give her units more exp?
yep that's exactly that. You also get a free master seal, and don't have to use it on that armor knight dude
@@GamesBrained They don't force you to use it? If you give it to Lyn, does she keep it? The first time I played Eliwood's mode, they gave her units new items when they were re-introduced and the old ones didn;t carry over.
@@GamesBrained didn't. Excuse my mistake.
Expect the new mystery of the emblem
fe7 is definitely my favorite fire emblem game
What happened to dorcas
Game I started with :)
Can you show the tutorial to turn AFFINITY on?
I miss my big bro Hector
Fire Emblem 7 that was the first Fire Emblem game to ever be released into the west, would not have been a successful release on the GBA if it were not for Marth and Roy being characters in Smash Bros Melee.
That is perhaps my honest opinion of this game and to me, this was my first Fire Emblem experience as I am sure others who were around my age would also have to agree with if they were Smash Bros Melee fans and first knew of the Fire Emblem series thanks to Marth and Roy from that Smash Bros game.
I did my research at the time back then thanks to gaming mags, so I knew all about the difficulty and permanent deaths that gamers would have to expect while playing the older Fire Emblem games especially on emulators.
Thankfully for newer gamers to the series, the option to play Casual mode or Classic mode is one I honestly think is a good idea to give newer fans a fresh introduction with Casual mode and give them an option if they are good enough to take the challenge to play their second playthrough to try the Classic mode so they can try to play Fire Emblem the way it was traditionally made.
A+ intro
says the story is a mess and falls apart
doesn't explain how...
EVERY TIME
the only valid criticism of the story I've ever seen is Ninian's revival feeling cheap. any "plot hole" that's brought up can easily be refuted by reading the script of the game. everything else is either a minor nitpick, a mistranslation, or someone who's just ontologically opposed to the concept of prequels
I actually got really invested in Lyn’s story, and for it to be ripped away after 10 chapters made me so annoyed - after emotionally investing - that I’ve still never played the game through lol. Eliwood is a bit dull :/
It's the best written part of the game too, so not much was lost.
@@lpfan4491 Disagree, honestly. Lundgren had all of the characterization of a piece of toast with an angry face drawn on it with Nutella. Nergal sucks, but at least he's SOMETHING.
@@ItsSomeDeadGuy Yeah, he's something worse. I don't get why people would rather have a turd-buffet instead of being fine with a single toast.
Sorry.
I'm only about four minutes into the vid, but I've gotta take off real quick to replay this game.
I'll be back to watch the rest of this video when I'm done tho. 🤙
Did you finish?
I’m confused by your comments about the translation. I had the original GBA release and noticed a ton of spelling errors in your footage not present in my copy.
Also, you keep saying the story is bad, but don’t really go into why it’s bad. I think it’s one of the strongest stories in the series. Very disappointed in the lack of analysis compared to your other vids
Yeah I honestly haven't personally seen anyone complain about the story of the game myself, I've played 4 or 5 FE games and I think blazing blade is the one I consider to be "the standard" on basically everything except it isn't as difficult as it should be, I think when you select hard mode It should ACTUALLY be hard.
The EU/PAL version of the game has a very sloppy translation, he's playing that version and not the NA release. And the story ISN'T bad, the community has just been swayed by an UNWATCHABLE analysis/critique video by popular FE RUclipsr Mekkah that blatantly RIPS OFF Red Letter Media and makes almost no good points. I like quite a bit of Mekkah's content, but that particular series is abhorrent, nitpicking, BULLSHIT that is also hard to watch and it is sad how much it has affected the opinion of the FE community on the topic of FE7's story, IMO.
A good chunk of errors actually do originate in the NA-release. Like the downright translationerrors, Nergal being misspelled as Negal(or something like that, don't remember) once, abilities being misspelled, etc. I know because I have seen those errors in FEBuilder and I can't have accidentially opened an EU-rom because that tool doesn't support those. Heck, the EU-release actually corrected some of the errors in the NA-release.
Also, what's so wrong about a good amount of points in Mekkah's videos? Sure, the videos ARE kinda bad because of the forced "comedy", but I don't see the bigger issue with putting emphasis on how the story fails to have a logical throughline and contradicts FE6.
@@GambitX37 Just FE7?
The entire fandom criticizes the games based on popular youtubers opinion and redditors/serene forest users lol
I literally see FE fans complaning about every game and say as if they were the worst thing that ever existed, and most of the time they overexaggerate a lot or just want every FE game to have JRR Tolkien level of writting and Worldbuilding and be the best game of all time
@@renren47618 it happens to FE7 the most by far. (And Fates, but that's for a different reason)
Gonna be on Switch online expansion pass soon!
great!!!!!!!!
fe7 has a hot mess of a main story, yes, but i still like its writing when it shows side stories like nino and jaffars stuff, and the supports are generally good, every character feels like they have depth even if the depth does not matter
FE7 is proof that narration will always trump story quality.
Curious, why do you say it's a hot mess?
Effective damage is x3 in the Japanese version
33:07
Anyone know what the song is at 28:56
I believe it is called "ride with us", and I think it's the "recruitment" song that plays when someone in the story is joining you or a unit on the map bring recruited by you
Mekkah fans kept laughing at that joke until the end of the video
Please explain. I don't watch Mekkah,Mangs and the other Fire Emblem tubers.
@@yunuss58 I assume Manuel is referring to 25:35, Mekkah made a full series going through the plot of FE7 and it was called the worst thing since my son. I'd suggest watching it and it's hilarious piece, one of my favourites from Mekkah
@@TheGatrGamr Yeah, and that's a joke he stole from Plinkett.
29 min mark, nah it would of been fine, FE needed stability
its not just "well the series always changed", its that it did so every time it hit a road block and never refined an idea but made new problems - especially once its main head left and the series became aimless
the series needed this consistency of gba games or it be dead right now (though honestly its kinda is still given the terrible direction we're going in now)
Wait, what's wrong with the story?
Thank you, he totally just says it’s bad and doesn’t elaborate at all
Basically nothing. It's basically just contrarianism because too many people liked this game for its story for too long so it became sort of hip counterculture a couple of years ago.
Marquis is pronounced like "Mark E"