I'm assuming this series is very loosely based on the Silo trilogy? The books were genuinely enjoyable IMO (and there was a very valid reason not to venture outside in the novels). I strongly recommend reading them.
The show really did a number one me, with that switch at the end. I was angry, to a certain extent. Did they really not trust me with the truth, from the very beginning? Did they have to lie to me and tell me it was all green? But I think it was necessary for the story to do that. I mean, If I knew the truth from the start, my desire for the people of the silo to find out the truth wouldn't be so ardent. If I did know these people had no option, I would think their situation is hopeless and I would probably give up on them.
Seems like a bigger budgeted remake of the TV version of Logan's Run with Gregory Harrison. The major diff seems to be that they have stretched Logan's Run's first episode over a full season. It wd be interesting if you did a comparison of the Logan's sci fi book series, the 76 film and the 78 tv series, with each iteration, like the original Planet of the Apes, getting worse and cheaper.
An aside from the subject matter of this video, Feral you are quickly becoming one of my favorite "dissident" social commentator on this platform. This space is flooded with commentators who I personally perceive to be looking at culture and media from a saturated left-wing view. Who y'know, do their little videos in their white living rooms on a couch with a microphones in hand with low-fi royalty free music as intro. I find that trite, but you are on a rock. Your channel is like ice water in a desert. I'm glad the algorithm sent me you.
Was great to see this being televised. Season 2 starting out strong as well. Books were full of bitter irony. Most would be spoilers. One incredibly funny one: The internal "CIA" believes it alone has the full picture, so to speak. Can only recommend this.
He went outside because he couldn't drink the zima anymore. edit to add: the book series is cool and there is an apocalypse anthology series that has short stories about this world. One of which is a other group who is in the know, but not a part of that other group, and as such set up their own bunker. And yes i know who built the silos and what political party set it all up including setting off the nano weapon.
Season 2 is due to finally be released this week. I haven’t had as much cautious anticipation for a piece of media for quite some time. It’s definitely not perfect, but it’s extremely compelling.
It’s a moral difference, especially if they are correct. It reminds me of another movie about humanity and the will to endure, I think it was called 28 weeks later. The whole movie is about a few people trying to avoid zombies and escape a quarantine zone before it’s fire bombed by whatever the post apocalyptic authority is now. At the very end they succeed and escape the bombing… but they are infected. A triumph of human will… that puts all of humanity at risk.
can i ask would look at sid meier's alpha centauri it's just this game is a gold mine of philosophy you can mine for a long long time. (also a very good game too)
It has the same main plot line with a 1950 or 1960 sci-fi short story I once read. Book was a collection of stories (anthology?) of a popular author. I forgot his name. Anyway US and USSR were at war for a long time. Earth become inhabitable due to nuclear fallout. Entire populations of both nations lived in numerous underground cities sending out only robots to attack each other's cities. Robot scouts are their only source of information of the conditions above ground. Plot twist, the Earth has recovered. Photos and videos reported by robots showing destroyed cities were fake. The battle droids sent on the surface did not follow their programmed missions and let nature recover, rebuilt cities and even farms complete with barns,crops and livestock (like a planet wide multi-gazillion turn key reconstruction project with all the frills and whistles 😁) . The robots discourage humans to come out and investigate since their reconstruction of the entire Earth was not yet complete. Any humans insisting on going out and succeeding to reach the surface are detained top side but enjoying the paradise like condition of the recovered Earth. Very old story. 😄😁
"They don't trust the people to make sensible decisions based on facts" - well, who can blame them really. Look at what's happening in the here and now.
I'd argue that most people now are being led to support or at least condone irrational decisions via coordinated propaganda. Most of the idiocy in the world today is caused by the rulers, not the ruled.
The episode they focused on repairing the generator turbine almost made me quit. They opened it While it was Running? WTF Ever! People with no understanding of engineering or even basic mechanical functions need to avoid writing drama around that. But yeah, overall good show.
Okay, I promise that I'll actually watch the video, but right off the bat - "barely marketed gems"? I was under the impression that Apple TV was Silo and Severance, and maybe something else? Who knows, we all live in our own bubbles.
Apple TV may well target their marketing in places where I just don't see it. For All mankind was in its 2nd season before I ever saw an ad for it and I had never heard of Silo until a viewer here mentioned it. Severence though, they plugged that to death.
@@feralhistorian Which is such a shame that FAM wasn't marketed better, because I've had over 15 households fall in love with the series after me rambling on about it. Our own bubbles may be it though because the Apple streaming service is the only Apple product I make use of.
Hey Feral Historian. I wanted to ask you what do you think of Ayn Rand and her novel Atlas Shrugged? I know a lot of libertarians love her and her Objectivist philosophy. Do you have any interest in her philosophy or novels?
I have mixed thoughts on Rand. The really-really short version is I think she makes some good points but is too tied up in the structure of her ideology. Like any rigid model of human societies, it gets ridiculous very quickly if strictly adhered to.
Honestly, the Silo is a time bomb regardless as everything is breaking down. Everything. Personally, I think the V.R. headset is there to encourage accidental suicides.
With talks of 15 min cities and throttling of the Internet and censorship sharply increasing, we’re not far off from this dystopian hell scape. All under the safety excise.
@@skazkatzroy3444a self contained city where within a fifteen minute walk from your domicile/pod would be everything in your life- job, food, gym, recreation, entertainment, school, etc. Essentially a dystopian control nightmare the WEF et al are strongly encouraging. Saudi Arabia just broke ground on a fully-enclosed artificial version.
Having to sit in csrs for hours each week to travel between home and work and then spend hours more to travel to shops for basic needs is already pretty dystopian. @@ab5olut3zero95
@ab5olut3zero95 there is the actual original planning related concept of the 15 min city, and there is the conspiracy version. Plenty of people live in what the original planning definition calls a 15 minute city, I do. Or, at least a 20 minute one. I have within a short walking distance access to most of the stores necessary for every day life (grocery, department, pharmacy, bakeries, cafes), and within a similar timeframe can take public transport to reach anything else I could want. If I wanted to, I could live a full life without leaving my city council area, and without owning a car. But it isn't mandatory to live that way. Original 15 minute cities is purely about convenience and having the ability to get places without needing a car. Cities like NYC, are for many, a 15 minute one. I see Americans online often complaining about how unwalkable their cities or suburbs are, how there is nothing within wlaking distance and poor public transport. Half hour drives just to buy groceries. Maybe the conspiracies have merit but I've never been presented with convincing evidence.
I think that shirt makes your opinions on constitutions as a concept known, among much else about you (You look like The Postal Dude). I doubt that you have to prep the audience for criticism of something they believe. What kind of audience do you think you have if that, of all things you talk about, is required?
Quandary of where Sociatle development is now , is plainly " What to say...." The Speaker for President , seems to be planting querys in the audience ,the other day a reporter asked the over - obvious question essentially ( Approx ) Why doesnt U.S. recognize International Law..(?) Seemed scripted. Speaker4 Prez says ; " Do you want to make a speech...there are places in Washington where you can do that " Then yesterday woman asked him about , what Pentagon ( some agency) was doing to stop Genocide... " We expect that our laywers who are looking at this problem will come to a decision about mid November. ( Oh , so Gaza smashdown is solved in around Executive election ! ) Anti Zionism Antisemitm ..has gone off the rails in what ( ever ) it is-wad intended to mean . ( Because Palestinians are undoubtedly Semetic ) But that dosent cease those words being said.......🚩
I'm assuming this series is very loosely based on the Silo trilogy? The books were genuinely enjoyable IMO (and there was a very valid reason not to venture outside in the novels). I strongly recommend reading them.
That's my understanding, yes. I had never heard of the series before this show, but now that's on my radar I'll give it a read sooner or later.
@@feralhistorian they're pretty good!
Books we very good looking forward to you revisiting this.@@feralhistorian
@@feralhistorian its a filip k dick short story - from the collection that had the type three robot
It's not left versus right, it's the algorithm versus you.
Shut your Eyes! Is a order shockingly many people will follow.
The show really did a number one me, with that switch at the end.
I was angry, to a certain extent. Did they really not trust me with the truth, from the very beginning? Did they have to lie to me and tell me it was all green?
But I think it was necessary for the story to do that. I mean, If I knew the truth from the start, my desire for the people of the silo to find out the truth wouldn't be so ardent. If I did know these people had no option, I would think their situation is hopeless and I would probably give up on them.
Seems like a bigger budgeted remake of the TV version of Logan's Run with Gregory Harrison. The major diff seems to be that they have stretched Logan's Run's first episode over a full season.
It wd be interesting if you did a comparison of the Logan's sci fi book series, the 76 film and the 78 tv series, with each iteration, like the original Planet of the Apes, getting worse and cheaper.
An aside from the subject matter of this video, Feral you are quickly becoming one of my favorite "dissident" social commentator on this platform. This space is flooded with commentators who I personally perceive to be looking at culture and media from a saturated left-wing view. Who y'know, do their little videos in their white living rooms on a couch with a microphones in hand with low-fi royalty free music as intro. I find that trite, but you are on a rock. Your channel is like ice water in a desert. I'm glad the algorithm sent me you.
Thanks, I appreciate it. You'll be seeing a couple new locations in upcoming videos, but none of them involve a living room.
The phrase, "Run, runner!" kept going through my head while watching this. iykyk
Was great to see this being televised. Season 2 starting out strong as well. Books were full of bitter irony. Most would be spoilers. One incredibly funny one: The internal "CIA" believes it alone has the full picture, so to speak. Can only recommend this.
He went outside because he couldn't drink the zima anymore. edit to add: the book series is cool and there is an apocalypse anthology series that has short stories about this world. One of which is a other group who is in the know, but not a part of that other group, and as such set up their own bunker. And yes i know who built the silos and what political party set it all up including setting off the nano weapon.
Thanks for the tv recommendations and great explanation of the world of tyrants
Season 2 is due to finally be released this week. I haven’t had as much cautious anticipation for a piece of media for quite some time. It’s definitely not perfect, but it’s extremely compelling.
"But some of them are true believers. They have a higher calling."
Same effect, though. A difference which makes no difference is no difference.
A difference without distinction.
It’s a moral difference, especially if they are correct.
It reminds me of another movie about humanity and the will to endure, I think it was called 28 weeks later. The whole movie is about a few people trying to avoid zombies and escape a quarantine zone before it’s fire bombed by whatever the post apocalyptic authority is now. At the very end they succeed and escape the bombing… but they are infected. A triumph of human will… that puts all of humanity at risk.
can i ask would look at sid meier's alpha centauri it's just this game is a gold mine of philosophy you can mine for a long long time. (also a very good game too)
It has the same main plot line with a 1950 or 1960 sci-fi short story I once read. Book was a collection of stories (anthology?) of a popular author. I forgot his name. Anyway US and USSR were at war for a long time. Earth become inhabitable due to nuclear fallout. Entire populations of both nations lived in numerous underground cities sending out only robots to attack each other's cities. Robot scouts are their only source of information of the conditions above ground. Plot twist, the Earth has recovered. Photos and videos reported by robots showing destroyed cities were fake. The battle droids sent on the surface did not follow their programmed missions and let nature recover, rebuilt cities and even farms complete with barns,crops and livestock (like a planet wide multi-gazillion turn key reconstruction project with all the frills and whistles 😁) . The robots discourage humans to come out and investigate since their reconstruction of the entire Earth was not yet complete. Any humans insisting on going out and succeeding to reach the surface are detained top side but enjoying the paradise like condition of the recovered Earth. Very old story. 😄😁
"They don't trust the people to make sensible decisions based on facts" - well, who can blame them really. Look at what's happening in the here and now.
I'd argue that most people now are being led to support or at least condone irrational decisions via coordinated propaganda. Most of the idiocy in the world today is caused by the rulers, not the ruled.
Dope
Vault 101 we meet again.
Nah the Wool books are even better :)
The books "Wool" are very good.
I like using the term "color of the law" as the antithesis to letter, instead of spirit
I read the book (only 1st one)
The episode they focused on repairing the generator turbine almost made me quit. They opened it While it was Running? WTF Ever! People with no understanding of engineering or even basic mechanical functions need to avoid writing drama around that. But yeah, overall good show.
Okay, I promise that I'll actually watch the video, but right off the bat - "barely marketed gems"? I was under the impression that Apple TV was Silo and Severance, and maybe something else? Who knows, we all live in our own bubbles.
Apple TV may well target their marketing in places where I just don't see it. For All mankind was in its 2nd season before I ever saw an ad for it and I had never heard of Silo until a viewer here mentioned it.
Severence though, they plugged that to death.
@@feralhistorian Which is such a shame that FAM wasn't marketed better, because I've had over 15 households fall in love with the series after me rambling on about it. Our own bubbles may be it though because the Apple streaming service is the only Apple product I make use of.
The Sheriffs name should have been simms.
Hey Feral Historian. I wanted to ask you what do you think of Ayn Rand and her novel Atlas Shrugged?
I know a lot of libertarians love her and her Objectivist philosophy. Do you have any interest in her philosophy or novels?
I have mixed thoughts on Rand. The really-really short version is I think she makes some good points but is too tied up in the structure of her ideology. Like any rigid model of human societies, it gets ridiculous very quickly if strictly adhered to.
@@feralhistorian Thank you for your reply. I hope you are doing well and that you are having a nice weekend. 😀
@@feralhistorian I really dug Anthem as a boy. .. Most punchy, pulpy,.. adaptable of hers.
It's definitely better than atlas shrugged
Honestly, the Silo is a time bomb regardless as everything is breaking down. Everything.
Personally, I think the V.R. headset is there to encourage accidental suicides.
Yeah booooiiiiii. Am early or late?
With talks of 15 min cities and throttling of the Internet and censorship sharply increasing, we’re not far off from this dystopian hell scape. All under the safety excise.
lol can you define "fifteen minute city" bro? What's that mean?
@@skazkatzroy3444a self contained city where within a fifteen minute walk from your domicile/pod would be everything in your life- job, food, gym, recreation, entertainment, school, etc. Essentially a dystopian control nightmare the WEF et al are strongly encouraging. Saudi Arabia just broke ground on a fully-enclosed artificial version.
You know you can leave a walkable city. You just would need a care to go to most businesses
Having to sit in csrs for hours each week to travel between home and work and then spend hours more to travel to shops for basic needs is already pretty dystopian. @@ab5olut3zero95
@ab5olut3zero95 there is the actual original planning related concept of the 15 min city, and there is the conspiracy version.
Plenty of people live in what the original planning definition calls a 15 minute city, I do. Or, at least a 20 minute one. I have within a short walking distance access to most of the stores necessary for every day life (grocery, department, pharmacy, bakeries, cafes), and within a similar timeframe can take public transport to reach anything else I could want.
If I wanted to, I could live a full life without leaving my city council area, and without owning a car. But it isn't mandatory to live that way.
Original 15 minute cities is purely about convenience and having the ability to get places without needing a car. Cities like NYC, are for many, a 15 minute one. I see Americans online often complaining about how unwalkable their cities or suburbs are, how there is nothing within wlaking distance and poor public transport. Half hour drives just to buy groceries.
Maybe the conspiracies have merit but I've never been presented with convincing evidence.
I think that shirt makes your opinions on constitutions as a concept known, among much else about you (You look like The Postal Dude). I doubt that you have to prep the audience for criticism of something they believe. What kind of audience do you think you have if that, of all things you talk about, is required?
Quandary of where Sociatle development is now , is plainly " What to say...."
The Speaker for President , seems to be planting querys in the audience ,the other day a reporter asked the over - obvious question essentially ( Approx )
Why doesnt U.S. recognize International Law..(?)
Seemed scripted. Speaker4 Prez says ;
" Do you want to make a speech...there are places in Washington where you can do that "
Then yesterday woman asked him about , what Pentagon ( some agency) was doing to stop Genocide...
" We expect that our laywers who are looking at this problem will come to a decision about mid November.
( Oh , so Gaza smashdown is solved in around Executive election ! )
Anti Zionism Antisemitm ..has gone off the rails in what ( ever ) it is-wad intended to mean . ( Because Palestinians are undoubtedly Semetic )
But that dosent cease those words being said.......🚩