The Mavs offered a CLEARER PATH for Klay Thompson than the Lakers - Brian Windhorst | First Take
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- On First Take, Brian Windhorst, Chiney Ogwumike and Chris Carlin join Christine Williamson to discuss Klay Thompson signing with the Dallas Mavericks over the Los Angeles Lakers.
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They got the Summer League team running the show rn
I hate it 😩
Lmao bro u can see chantel?(is that her name) struggling to read off a script.
Good tired of SA TALKING NONSENSE
@@rari1055christine 😂
Way better than the main cast
1. He left for a clear starting position, and not be second to podz
2. No state income tax
3. He wanted a 3+ year deal
4. Chance for a 5th ring
Now this is the best analysis given. Everyone always want drama, but these players are about that dollar. I lived in Texas for a time and no income tax is a beautiful thing. People forget it's a job, not a popularity contest.
I think #4 was the clear-cut reason.
Dream on. No ring for the Mavs. Let’s go Celtics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wemby $80 is more than $50 😅
Not sure Klay will be starting but he def took less money to play for a better team
Na why i deadass thought windy went bald 😂
bruh I thought I was the only one 🤣🤣 my eyes adjusted
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂yoooooo
Same here. 😅
😂
😂😂😂😂
Chris Carlin is Paul Heyman's long lost brother.
More like butter bean
@@tayyabiqbal1624both of em
Ya know, he does sound just like him.
They sound a lot alike too
Yes my tribal chief
There's a life lesson here ladies and gentlemen... Go where you will be celebrated and not merely tolerated
It's gonna be a rude awakening for Klay. He talked a big game for 2 years and couldnt deliver.
@@maxmeier5322022 champ? After an Achilles and knee injury.
@@maxmeier532warriors won the championship in 2022. Last time I checked he was on that team. A change of scenery sometimes is what’s best for a person and I have no doubt Klay will feel rejuvenated in Dallas playing alongside Kyrie Irving and Luka Dončić.
facts !!! goo where people care about you indeed
Yall act like the warriors hate Klay ....he isn't a starter no more. Just the facts. I'm sorry. He is getting older and due to injuries....it really caught up to him.
Mavs problem in the finals was not defense at all yeah there was blow bys but that was fine they held them to enough points to win it was offense that didn’t show up. Klay addresses that pretty self explanatory good trade.
Nah they struggled on offense also. If they had more scorers the. They could have atkeast kept the games close with the Celtics.
classic error on your part. The Celtics had the experience of the last 5 years where they had very deep runs. Celtics knew exactly how to pace the game. They always just did what's necessary, not more. Whenever Mavs got close, Celtics put their foot down. Tatum was completely selfless and had a huge impact. Everyone did what was necessary. I dont like Boston at all, but they had the Mavs under controll at all times. Even when they lost the one game by blowout. They knew what's happening, that this was the one game the Mavs are going to put in all they have left in the tank to not get swept, and the Celtics accepted it, didnt waste energy and moved on to finish the Mavs at the Garden. It was a chess game against someone who plays for the first time.
@@maxmeier532 agreed that’s not refuting my point lol they still needed offense and got it
I think Luka having to carry the offense caused a lot of defensive problems. It’s not easy to play both ends when you are the only guy on offense that’s keeping them in the game.
They still wouldn't of beat the Celtics with klay lol. And definitely wouldn't of beat the Celtics with klay and a healthy porzingas
Klay didn’t want to become this years scapegoat.
He's old it wouldn't matter
@@FillyouupSplash he knows he will blamed .
@@therealmvp232 it aint blame, it's accountability. this is a man's league, there are no participation trophies. These mfers make millions, per MONTH.
@@maxmeier532 and anytime cavs lost, heat lost, lakers lost, it was everyone else’s fault.
@@therealmvp232the difference is those cavs & heat teams was good how can you have a scapegoat if the lakers suck ?
As a warrior fan since 91 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU KLAY WARRIORS 4 LIFE 🌁 CONTINUE TO SHINE AS A MAVERICK
You guys stole him the guy was a born Laker
good run bud.. should of cut the donkey
Why is King Pin on espn
Espn needa these guys on ozempic 😂
😂😂😂😂
No excuses for Mavs not to return to the NBA Finals 💯🏀
1:01 - they said luka struggled, but also said he led the league in nearly all stats in the post season
sounds like he did better than literally everyone else individually, just needed the rest of his team to show up a lil more
because they are RACIST
He struggled with efficiency in the parts of the playoffs and or the finals finals and his assists went down in the finals because his teammates didn't execute.
Peter Griffen spitten facts 😎
Discounting the laker chips are not facts, mans never played sports in his life lmao and its apparent
@MrJustinMN but he never said they never had them lol but I definitely get what you mean
😅😅
Too accurate 😂
He wasn't spitting facts. He was just hating. He said the Lakers weren't above a 5 seed in 12 years. The Lakers were the #1 seed before the league closed because of COVID. If any other team had won that championship in 2020, they would celebrate it just like any other. Why would you discount it? Were some teams not allowed to play? No. Were there special rules that only helped the Lakers? No. Did everybody know the rules and conditions and situation before play started. Yes. When was the last time Dallas actually won a championship? Over 15 years ago? The Lakers have 3 since then (and no that doesn't include the In Season Tournament). Dallas is no guarantee to get back to the finals. Just like Denver, Phoenix, Golden State, and the Lakers haven't been back to the finals since they were last there. In fact, no team in the West as even made the conference finals in back to back years since GSW in 2018.
She really blames Luca for the loss no one hit shot kyrie choked
Luka the captain of the ship it happened to lebron every time tell Luka get use to it
Because Luka is of specific skin tone when in reality without Luka they wouldn't even made the playoffs let alone NBA finals lol.
It’s luka team
The craziest part is everyone shot horrible from 3 JB, Tatum , Kyrie and Luka. Luka averaged the most ppg out of everyone but losers don’t get rewarded.
@@snupedummy Caitlin Clark! Female Luca
Butttaabeannnn Welcome to espn brother !
😂
The defense should be a concern. Klay can’t stay in front of people but isn’t physical enough to defend the post. If he isn’t scoring he is a major liability
Let’s be real if they did bring a lock down defender in it doesn’t make them better they mines well load up they offense and get someone like klay who can let Luka and kyrie cook
As a Warriors fan, I’m glad he’s gone. The Achilles tear unfortunately made him a liability for good.
They lost there best wing defender in jones... Luka, Irving and klay thats a horrible defensive lineup
@@LazarNevski gave you 4 rings and thats how you treat him. spoiled and ungrateful fans. Curry NEVER won a ring without klay
@@LazarNevskiof course his defense was down but nobody’s been more of a overrated player and major liability like “triple single” .. man cost you a chip even 😂
wow chiney is really well spoken . i dont watch much besides inside the nba, mostly cause not everyone has content i care for, but chiney is solid commentating. needs more time on the air
Chiney's burner account trying to fool us😂😂😂😂
@@dandemaree7081 Boy you are slow
@@dandemaree7081Nah she’s a very well spoken analyst, and very charming tbh. She’s made for this job and she’s been like this from the beginning and only gotten better. Quite the natural for TV
And she got the gyaatttt
I don’t blame Clay. I wouldn’t want to be coached by JJ Reddick either a unproven, but he still got the job.
You know Kerr was unproven when he took the job right? Just an FYI
Who’s clay?
@@qflxx1112 one half of the splash brothers, the other one is Stevon Kurry
He blew your a$$ off the stage with the coach Kerr comment 😅😅....you chumps seriously need to research before you make idiot comments 😢
Kerr also inherited a proven 50+ win team that Mark Jackson put together
How tf I’m watching first take and I don’t see Stephen A or Shannon sharpe
It happens very regularly crackie
The season is over. They’re on vacation.
Ye, like first time its a fact driven show and not crack indused halucinations by shannon and sas. Best would be if those 2 never talked bball again
Don't watch you dam cry baby
@@hairlokk8672 Kind of like how you should stay away from larger words, it doesn't not work.
Why go to the lakers with lebron and Bronny and be blamed when u don’t hit your shots while still guarding the best player on the other team no one wants to play with lebron I bet most of his teammates don’t even want to be around the guy
0-10 when it mattered.. i feel bad for the mavs organization.. i love luka man but hope this doesn't tarnish his chances
He won't go 0-10 with Dallas. He was the 2nd option in Dallas, he'll be the third in Dallas. Plus all the attention Luka and Kyrie garner, he'll be fine.
@@melanatedgod5337 no he wont. klay has a big ego. that's why he had to leave the Dubs.
@@maxmeier532you figure his ego is big because of the media. He'll be fine in Dallas. Just watch.
These salty warriors fans are still at it 😄
Dallas won games when THJ or the role players would go 0-10, even when the team misses their shots they’ve found other ways to win the games, good teams have multiple ways of winning, the team ranked as an average 3 point shooting team but when you have Luka and Kyrie (2 of the best shooters in the league) that’s tells you how much they needed more shooting from the rest of the team
2019 season the bubble year Lakers finish 1st seed in playoff get this guy off the air 😅
Nope he's right Lakers been in the play in every year and very low seeds. Unless u count the summer camp championship.
The bubble season was down to basics basketball. Even playing field no advantage for having best record in the west going into playoff
Because he watched what the Lakers did to Russ Westbrook. NBA big names are avoiding playing at the Lakers and I hope they continue to do that.
No state taxes stupid
Or Maybe He 's Afraid to Go O-10 When He's Neede The Most ... There would Be More Pressure From The Lakers Fans .
@@rubikino7569stop talking sound dumb
Nobody wants any part of that circus lebron has created with the lakers😂@@rubikino7569
@@rubikino7569Or, he’s afraid of an incompetent front office, first time head coach, and no coaching staff
How tf does Dallas get to the finals get better in the off season and their “one step closer to true contention” get this girl tf outta my face bro
Bro I SWEAR
They never give mavs credit at anything
The finals was not close
@@Raul1088NEVER give us Mavs any credit. Always counted us out smh espn kills me
Exactly.
led the post season in points, rebounds and assists and considered ‘struggling’ is wild 😅
Luka is hold to a higher standard.
If Klay plays like he performed recently, the Mavs are still chasing the Celtics.
Klay has been awful recently so this move does nothing really if he doesn’t get back to how he was it’s almost the same as Tim hardaway jr with how he’s been lately on the playoffs. He’s just not been the same guy since the ACL injury. It happens a lot. He’s still one of the best shooters cause of what he did in the past, but he isn’t that guy anymore.
I can sense you’re a Boston fan. Klay is in a different team now alleviating the pressure of being a 2nd scorer in GSW. We’ll see where this goes 😂😂😂
@@NoobGamer-di1dwyeah thats because he already checked out with gsw. he wont have those distractions in dallas + he just has to make open shots and stay around 38% from the 3 like last season. a change of scenery can make all the difference.
Apparently people feel like someone who shot 0/12 in a must-win game is gonna be the cure to the Mavs' lack of shooting.
This! I don't know how Klay can still shoot after those injuries -- which can affect upper body strength needed to make shots.
klay had distractions all year and was already checked out with gsw. even then he still shot 38% from the 3pt line. now he just has to play basketball in dallas and will be more respected and appreciated. sometimes people just need a change of scenery.
@@theotherguy2675 I really hope so but I think he's at the tail-end of his career. He's like Ray Allen in his last years at Miami. Can may be make 12 to 15 pts a game. He'd be a good 3rd option for Dallas, no longer second option.
@@denniszenanywhere everybody knows that klay is past his prime. jkidd isnt going to ask him to be what he was. he just has to catch and shoot. thats it. luka will make those happen for him. he doesnt have to be a shot-creator in dallas which is why this is a great fit for him.
@@theotherguy2675 He has always been a catch and shoot player. He was never a shot creator.
Mavs getting a guy that has won more 💍 than 10 teams combined is truly the STEAL of the offseason
Klay just needs to take a step back offensively like Ray Allen did from Boston to Miami. His green light was crazy on GS he took a lot of tough shots that he was good enough at one point to validate taking but he’s not quite the same in the legs so he just has to adjust his shot selection a little bit and he can still be a mid 40s 3 pt shooter
That's what I'm saying take a page outta of Ray Allen playbook and follow thru idk if he'll do it but he will be more happy and comfortable js
Ray Allen was waaay better when he was at Miami compared to Klay now. Also Allen didnt have that big ego that would be in his way. And you are completely delusional that Klay could be a mid 40 3pt shooter. DELUSIONAL. The only time Klay would be over 40 on average would be a the 3pt shooting contest.
@@maxmeier532 everything you said woulda made sense on Opposite Day
They got windy on the monitor and future windy in studio lol
This trade doesn’t get the Mavs any more closer to a championship. Good for Klay though he got a bag!
It gets them closer stop the cap lmao.
Lol fs buddy. Whatever helps you cope
So many people with terrible takes on this move, including Clamp here.
It's better than going to that dumpster fire that is the Lakers
It absolutely makes the Mavs better
2 year 48mil vs 3 year 50 mil. he got no bag, he actually got less lol
kidd gotta expand that playbook next szn
It puts them much closer to a title? How closer can they get? The west is going to be tuff and if the lakers get derozan the west will really be super unpredictable
You're right, they cant get closer, they got smoked by the Celtics. And while Mavs make lateral moves, OKC just got a lot better and the Nuggets will make a move 100% too. Only way Luka ever wins a ring if he leaves Dallas.
Booooo where’s Stephen A and Shannon this is boring
Vacation
windy is good
It's called 4th of July dummy. The stars get that vacation leave,.
Without Perkins ESPN is not ESPNing
This benefits Luka heavily. If they keep doubling or tripling Luka this leaves Klay wide open. Same with Kyrie. They gotta shore up the defensive end for sure or they still won't win. If they can figure that out. They have a really good shot at getting back to the finals and maybe winning.
so smart by the sponsoring betting provider to show the odds all the time. actually brillant
All of what the Mavs gave up equals what they gained with Klay. They going to need some other pieces.
They didn’t give up shyt to get Klay. Really low IQ hater
They got them. It's crazy nobody knew Jones Jr before the Mavs, but now people think they can't find other players 😂😂 Marshall and Grimes replace Jones Jr and Green just fine
They've added Grimes and Marshall
@@MrMDMPOfficial yeah but they got smacked in the finals and you leaving out Hardaway who was cooking this year.
@@DaNewWaveLee Lol
It was all about the taxes.
Not really
It really was. Plus the dude lived in Cali his whole life. Why not go to Texas and get all of his money
Property taxes are double in Texas what they are in Cali. Plus, still gotta pay Uncle Sam his 37%. If taxes were a concern, he wouldn't have stayed in Golden State for 13 seasons.
@@ericthomas6086 Not true at all.
@ericthomas6086 the state has no property taxes. It goes by county. So depending where he buys to live, determines his % of property taxes. And California had 7.25% state taxes. Which means every check is taxed compared to property taxes that are once a year (which he would have had to pay in Cali still)
Trust me DJJ defense wasn’t what only got Dallas to the finals. It was the TEAM TOGETHER’s defense. Lively being on the court makes their defensive rating go up. Jones didn’t have anything offensively but run towards the rim or have an open shot and sometimes a lob but it wasn’t enough.
How do you choose the best locations for shooting videos like this?
You can’t be the most dominant player in the league if you don’t play any defense. You don’t have to make the NBA all defensive team but you do have to make an effort to defend.
Who we talking about here? Lebron? Klay? Cant be luka and kai, both of them played amazing defense thru the po
@@hairlokk8672 who's the video about.
Klay Thompson went on the open market as an unrestricted free agent and the market decided that he was only worth 3/50 (or 2/48 that the warriors had offered him)... all the other teams that had cap space didn't go for him... yet people expect the warriors to pay him a massive long term contract for past performance, just because of the great memories over the past 13 years.... smh...
The only people expecting the warriors to pay him are Klay and his agent themselves
Klay took a path that puts him on a winning team. Money wasn't the goal he was getting paid either way
So why does draymond get the bag and not klay ? Especially with how dray is with all the suspensions q
Yes. He helped make yall a dynasty. You reward tht. Kobe was terrible has last few years and the was making 30 mil which made him one of the highest paid players in the league at tht point
@@EddiePReacts BUT HE'S KOBE & THE BUSSES TRULY LOVED HIM!!!!
Keep these guys on. Good, sober analysis. No histrionics or hyperbole. No SAS talking about clothes for half the segment
The content is a cut above the rest. Keep setting the bar high!
No one gonna mention how Okc should be the favorite in the west ? They have no more holes in their team, barring injury
I don't know about favorite
Bunch of question marks on OKC, will Jalen williams step up.
ESPN mentioned it literally two hours ago lol
@@deni8814he has to cs he was struggling all playoffs besides the first round
Which player in okc is big and strong enough to stop jokic, embiid, giannis, and other strong bigs? Chet's too skinny, he needs help. Would be nice if they had Steven adams again
Klay will never be the same again, so it doesn’t matter
Big facts 💯
idk why i thought the bald guy was windy at first lmao
People really think klay is a life changer for the mavs who play iso ball and he just finna shoot last second shots in the corner 😂😂😂
The Mavs will be seen as elite title contenders and the clear favorites in the West. With a gravitational floor spacing shooter like Klay, Kyrie and Luka will have more space to dominate until it’s an elimination game and Klay shoots 0/10 and the Mavs implode
"Clear favorite" when Denver, OKC, and Minny all lLITERALLY have better betting odds to come out of the West than the MID Mavs
Make it make sense
lol
@@Nostalgia9478elimed in 5 and 6 😂
@@Nostalgia9478 But I agree with you
Dude who’s their defender ? Luka? Kyrie? Klay?
@@kitkarakyle2353 who was they’re defender last season lemme guess Derrick jones ? In reality he can’t contain no superstar or hit threes consistently so mines well get a magnet who can spread the floor
Losing Green and DJJ is a problem and Klay alone does not fix that. I think the Mavs might pull off another trade
They got naji marshall and quentin grimes, they filled every gap with better 3nd players
@@HookahDoncic98 facts
klay/marshall/grimes > djj/thj/green
@@HookahDoncic98 you are right, I totally forgot about them
On another note this is gonna be a breath of fresh air for klay. He has had tough years since the 3rd ring with a lot of criticism harsh criticism. It gets to your head esp when you’re in a recover phase and if you can’t get that mental block it’ll taint your game.
6:02 Yep, we heard you! 🤔
Smart move he saw the future... the one time he goes 0/5 from 3 he's trending number one on Twitter the fake Laker LeBron fans would have crucified him
🤣🤣🤣
Luka fans no better bro or any superstar fan base
You put the lakers vs mavs right now, the lakers win in a 7 game series. Mavs got a lucky run to the finals.
Only luck they got was not having to play Denver
Ya'll starting to sound delusional, ya'll going the way of cowboy fans
Y’all Lakers fans delusion af. Lakers lost to the nuggets, which lost to the wolves, which lost to the mavs
Buddy you won 1 Playoff Game the entire playoffs. Jamal Murray Nightmare really affect your brain 😅
Lakers last 9 playoff games 1-8 😂😂
This was no surprise
I don’t wana hear about Klay being the best catch and shoot over the last ten seasons. Tell us about his last 3-4 seasons.
Admit it! Nobody wants to play with Lechoke! If not fpr rich paul AD wouldn't pick the lakers as well lol Kwai and PG also didn't choose leclown
this💯
facts .... but it's something that a lot of lebron blames dickriders around the world ... don't wanna read ... don't wanna listen ... don't wanna see ... & don't wanna hear ... 😂🤣😂🤣-🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
facts ... but it's something that a lot of lebron blames dickriders around the world ... don't wanna listen ... don't wanna see ... don't wanna read ... & don't wanna hear ... 😂🤣😂🤣-🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
You’re crazy if you believe that money and front office be the decision and maybe the fact he’s 38 ? Guarantee if he was 28 people would of been signing so fast with the lakers
Klay shot 33% on wide open 3's and 31% on catch and shoot this past season
He shot 39% on threes
But shot 39% from 3 for the year 🤔🤔..
Source?
This is a Temu Paul Heyman 😳 now I can’t unsee/hear it
I know professional players, especially great ones should be able to adapt well to other teammates but that doesnt always mean they will. If they dont mesh well, doesnt matter how good they are. I'm a Mavs fan so I hope they work well together but I never expect the best so as to not be disappointed.
Its ok LA, you can always rely on Bronny😂😂😂
facts .... bcuz coach lebron & his top assistant jj redick will let him play 30 minutes per game,let him ball hog as much as he wants & let him shoot 30 shots per game to make sure, he'll average 20 points per game & win rookie of the year .... 😂🤣😂🤣-😭😭😭😭😭😭
The last guy had the perfect response @12:37
Opening night should see a rematch of this years NBA finals
might be but I feel like they usually play to time zones for season openers
I expect Mavericks vs Thunder or Spurs and Celtics vs Sixers
Anyone else hear a weird echo in this video's audio?...
How do you think this video compares to the previous ones?
This helps their offense for sure you can’t trap as hard and can stretch the offense adding more defensive depth actually playing hardaway more they should be fine got some bigs focus on more defense and rim should be fine got some guys just gotta play em
Remember Klay caught and shot 0-10 in an elimination game. Is Klay the answer for the Mavs? Klay would also suffer in LA.
They got Kingpin on First Take today
Why play with LeBron and get scapegoated
LeBron lives rent free in your head 😂
What did you think of the ending?
Before asking the question if he can bring Dallas to a title, he has to blend in first and hoping the chemistry is right between the 3 superstars.
At least Capt Klay can bring his boat along for a different Lake Show down there in Dallas. I wish him all the luck going for another Chip!
They got a piece from the cavs and the piece from the warriors from the legendary cavs-warriors rivalry for luka
Who is this Butter Bean guy?? I never seen him on the show before😂
Its important to remember the State Tax impact the actual numbers you are seeing. Texas has no state tax vs California
When did kingpin join espn?
she was using a teleprompter lol
Wow, that’s the first reasonable analysis of Luka and.the Mavs I’ve heard on ESPN from someone not named Tim Legler 😮 👏
Nobody mentioned Brons age, drafting bronny, hiring JJ...aite yall don't wanna take this show to the next level
If dallas can add a lockdown and a stretch big who is competent they could definetly be back in the west final. They need that locdown wing tho for sure.
I saw the panel and instantly closed out of the video
He didn’t want to pay STATE TAXES ANYMORE LMFAO
Klay vs steph woah! I'm excited
It will not be the same after his left the Golden State Warriors
People are guessing as to what Thompson's motivations are for signing with the Mavericks.
I'm happy for Klay, you can't hate on a brother who needs an upgrade!
He will also make the Maverick’s move on offense. Which was needed.
Big Ed looks comfortable in this role as a comentator.
Mr. Carlin is spot on!
If Klay has low utilization he can defend a teams 2 or 3 for 20 minutes a night. He was an All Defense Player a few years back . I think lower his UHUs and and you get the two way player they need. Now will he trust his knee? That remains to be seen. Going to be fun! Great pick up!
It’s odd that the Mavs take the approach of we are going to have a terrible defense but out score you. Bold
What do they mean by closer to a title maybe win a game or two in the finals this time?😂
I didn't know Tasty from OITNB worked at ESPN??
I am so glad Klay didn’t go to the Lakers although I was a fan when his father was in LA. He did not need to be in midst of the LeBron/JJ Redick circus. Praying the very best for Klay.❤
I think Klay doesn't want to play for JJ. Someone he may have had words or beef with on the court. He admires Jason Kidd coaching abilities more 🏀
JJ would be the least of his problems. This whole nonsense with 40 year old Bron and his son, Dude is seriously making the Lakers a charity event. The roster isnt even bad, but it's really uninspired and not going anywhere. Bron is preventing the Lakers from rebuilding.
The best catch and shoot guy full stop
Brian Chiney deserve just as much as SAS!
that 11-1 stat is why he chose them. drafted 11th in the 2011 draft too...that's his number 🤣🤣🤣
That audio is F’ed 😂
ESPN invented new stats to talk bad about the Mavs 😂 and then ignored their actual defensive numbers foh
I will be rooting for the Mavericks other than my Warriors