BMW M3 Competition XDrive Review: Dont Bother With The RWD M3!!
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- Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2021
- Here is the BMW M3 Competition in XDrive form! The XDrive BMW M3 Competition is an incredible car to drive. The BMW M3 Competition Xdrive is 3 cars in one. It gives you the traditional RWD option, a 4wd and a rear biased 4wd sport set up. The New M3 Comp Xdrive will do 0-62mph in 3.5s however its been proven to do it in 3.1. This is unbelievable performance for a 4 door saloon! Here are my thoughts on the BMW M3 Competition Xdrive and in the video you will find accelerations, sounds and my first drive review.
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As a former F82 BMW M4 owner and a current Audi RS5 owner, I think you are totally spot on regarding AWD. I would go a step further and say even without damp roads (I live in California), AWD is a huge benefit when you have that much power. And unlike my Audi, you can now have the best of both worlds with this new M3 xdrive. What an awesome car.
Yeah defo gives you best of both worlds indeed
Makes me wonder why BMW didn't simply go with this AWD platform from the beginning rather than offering the pure RWD car's when this car gives customers the option at the touch of a botton 🤔
Id like to hear from someone who would rather have the pure RWD car now this is avaliable and why
I came to same conclusion after an M235I,,M2 and M3 on UK roads which are a wet or damp probably 6 months of the year. Loving the seemingly endless traction from my current m340i but if I were to go the full M car route again it would definitely be the AWD version.
@@markrhoden68 hey needed a rwd for the purists. they delayed this one because they knew no one would buy it afterwards. but people would still complain they do not have a rwd one even though it't worst.
@@markrhoden68 I’m in the states so I had another option when ordering my 22 M3 not mentioned here. I wanted a manual. I was willing to take the lower power and RWD to get three pedals in my M3. I crossed shopped it with a CT5-V Blackwing, but none of the Cadillac dealers were willing to play ball without ADM fees. It’s my only car and the ONLY way I would pivot to the AWD version is if we get the wagon variant in the states (not gonna happen). Otherwise, I’m extremely happy.
Fantastic footage. I don’t think I have ever seen POV footage that captured the crazy acceleration like this before. Makes my 128ti’s performance look like a tortoise 😂
😂😂😂
Absolutely love the full fat M3/M4 awd and its great to watch / read the great reviews. I expected no less. However my G80 RWD M3C is a ruddy dream and more than covers my requirements. Love the thing. The fractions of extra allround performance gained by AWD is stunning but a wee bit beyond my needs.
Same here, I think I enjoy the car with a lack of traction more so than with brand new tires
It looks like an absolutely amazing machine, but I can't live without a manual transmission...
they sell it in MT for RWD
@@samuelkim4187 Facts. But RWD, non-comp only. :(
Great work as always..keep it up chap .
I live in sunny AZ. Definitely only need the RWD version. Can't wait to get it!
That color is great!!
When he sits in, you just know the bucket seat got him 🤣 the grunt 🤣
Best in class 😍😍😍
I almost got the RWD, but so glad I waited for the xDrive! I agree with all your comments...absolute beast, but it can switch at the push of a button to a refined luxury sedan.
Great video, great car
Beautiful color, great video dude…👍
Cheers man
Traded my M2 Comp for the M4 xdrive back in mid September for one of the first 4wd in the country....haven't regretted it one bit. Grip and power are supreme and won't miss the unintentional tail out moments of the M2C one bit this winter.
I made the same trade and I can't wait for mine to arrive. She hits us US port this Friday!
Yah I upgraded from my f80 m3 CS to g80 M3 xdrive in August. Easy decision.
The exhaust sound of M2C is better, and 200Kg lighter. I regret I sold my M2C.
Hi Stef! I like the video. I would suggest changing the camera angle less often (your average is about a second between cuts). The primary reason for this particular video is to show the launching speed of xDrive, but each launch has several different camera angle changes which breaks my ability to visualize the speed relative to what I know. The exception to this is when you held the same angle when the camera was attached to the front of the car, which is an interesting angle, but almost meaningless from a standpoint of decerning the level of acceleration due to it not being relatable - there are no frames of reference I'm familiar with to try and visually sense the speed (remember we're not in the car with you and cannot feel the acceleration so we have to trick our brains to figure it out). A camera angle from near your head or something steady in the cabin (without changing the camera view within the launch) would have been more helpful to me as a viewer. Just thought I'd share since you're a relatively new channel and there's a small chance you'll actually see this :). Again, liked the vid.
Thanks for the feedback! Will see what I can do for future reviews 🙌
Amazing review! BMW M division just killed it with the Xdrive version for M3/4.
Thank you!
Yes please. This could be the best M3 ever
Good review!
Cheers mate
Great video mate 👍👌
Thank you
Insane
That colour maan 😍
Looks mega
Aventurine red. I'd love one (M4) with the red and oyster leather. Mmmm
As an F80 owner…this new G80 is now the greatest M3 ever
I have to agree with you mate. As a previous F80 owner as well and a current G80 xDrive owner, the new M3 is nuts!
Totally agree, once I seen the G80 in person I absolutely loved it.. Waiting for G80 xDrive to arrive🙏🏽
@@CorbinWilliams cobgrats mate. You are going to love the way it drives. So much grip yet it still has RWD characteristics.
Agreed as well. Owned 2 F80s including the CS and the G80 xdrive is night and day better!
No the e92 is the greatest ever
Just stumbled across this mate. I’ve subbed 😎
Thank you so much
The G80 xdrive is the only one to get (unless you want a manual). Best of both worlds and is much faster/more fun than the RWD version. Wouldn't be surprised if they do all comps as xdrive (with 2wd option) for the mid model refresh. And they made the MDM 4wd sport mode feel very RWD biased (unlike RS audis) so you only really realize the AWD when you really need it (ie when you are about to spin out and/or crash).
instant like bro
The ZF may be smoother than a twin clutch but it cannot beat the feeling of immediacy and crispiness of the gear changes of a twin clutch. The ZF gear changes were good but sounded a little lazy to me.
It's like anything else, if you focus on it, you're going to notice. If you're on the track and taking a corner, not so much!
The twin clutch are also more jerky. There’s a small pause when u jam the accelerator which I hate. Particularly in Audis.
There is always this Road vs. Track trade-off. M3’s positioning is daily practicality with track performance, and the choice of ZF box confirmed it. It’s always good to see varieties out there, at least you can still get a Porsche with pdk for the track, just the entry barrier to this level of track driving got a little higher.
DCT will NOT handle the power certainly not in AWD form. The GT500 Mustang is a badass car but Id refuse to consider it until the DCT can handle more power.
They’re both boring automatics
This vs Giulia Q... which one is more fun to drive?
Had F80, now Q and super happy with it (like it much more than F80)...should I consider going back to Xdrive M next?
That colour!!
1:15 that front end grown in my so much! I think I can say.. I like it (Y) *Lovely color btw*
Colour is mega
Love the xdrive G80
Yeah the red is so good looking on this car
Yup, I moved to Belgium for a while. That's why I went xDrive instead of RWD. Roads are always wet, possibly icy and I did not want to chance a RWD in these conditions.
My order specs is for a G80 RWD … coming from the E92 and F82 before I chose to save the money to get the CF bucket seats and exterior CF package… pretty sure that my car will be amazing as well.
totally agree...id be gutted if id brought the 2wd version.
Ok I’m sold, sounds perfect!! Just don’t tell my M2C or the wife!!!
😂😂😂
I went from a DCT M2C to a 6MT G80 (US car). I haven't had one moment of regret in over 8 months.
Well said 👏🏼 I was in a m3 rear wheel drive this week with the bad weather we have had and honestly the cars power was useless! You would have to be stupid to buy a rear wheel drive 😆 when the xdrive one can do both
Unless you want manual.
@@chitterlingsrtasty Exactly. Plus the manual has usable power.
@@chitterlingsrtasty too much power for manual imo
Hated my M4 comp on anything but dry days, love my M3 Comp Xdrive - different level
Great video Stef , like the different perspective to your video from video’s like your mate Joe’s (enjoyed his as well )and especially the footage from the front of the car . It’s a awesome car and colour 👍
Thank you!
Easy choice if you’re shopping for an automatic. Manual not so much. Rwd manual with sacrificed performance, northeast winter, and Manhattan traffic over m3comp awd for me. This also could be the last m3 with the inline6 manual combo.
Awd sports cars are unreal. Rwd is cool when you’re on a track…. But 1% of car owners actually track their car, let alone afford it. Awd is the ideal setup for a daily driver.
you have best of both with this, as you can switch to rwd too.
He said it but with 500HP and only RWD, most people can't drive the car well enough to get the most power out of it anyway. If you still want RWD and you know that, I still respect that as it's a fun car and different folks will enjoy the car in different ways.
Agreed. Realistically, how many people are taking out leases or loans on NEW cars that cost 80k+ AND tracking (ie, risking damaging) them on anywhere near a 'regular' basis? I have some usable for car buying funds in my bank account, but no where near that much. 😓
@@dillonpickles6047 I agree. Unless your life is dedicated to racing cars and that’s how you make a living (RUclips, pro racer, or just a hobby)… a regular person won’t, and probably can’t afford, to spend a few grand to service the car after every track event. It’s just not logical. I’d rather just rent an exotic for a few laps and do that whenever I have the urge to track a car. No stress to my bank account and no damage to my car.
@@Viktor9502 I wonder which oil for an M3 costs a couple grand :D good performance tires will last you a good amount of laps on the track to make you exhausted if youre pushing the limits.. for example they were able to get 70-80 laps from the new sport contact 7 on Mugello (so about 15-20 laps on the Nordschleife?). Those were of course good experienced drivers who know how to treat their tires and keep up the tempo so for us average people its less, but thats still a good amount of fun + you dont need tires as expensive as those are to have fun on a free day. Although I agree its probably better to just rent something exotic, but then I also think its good to know where the limits of your car are (dont forget if you buy a BMW in 20 years its going to be 2000€ pile of junk used for wannabe drifters anyway). Then also if youre not planning to ever drive this car fast, whats the point of getting an M3 when you can get a reasonably well equipped 5 series for that price and invest the leftover capital.
altough i'm sure xdrive will outperform the RWD in every single way I do prefer the RWD (2WD Mode only available when turning everything off).
Also, I have the MT so xdrive isn't an option anyway :P
Ive wanted to move up to a GT500 from my 2020 10 speed Performance pack Mustang but when paying close to or over 100k for a GT500 the 4 door would be nice and the enterior is on another planet better than the poor GT500.
m3 x drive is a consideration for sure to replace my 09 e90 M3 which is awesome
This absolutely slaps the Alfa 🤦♂️ Unreal
I guess you would buy the rwd model at least in NorthAmerica if you really wanted a manual transmission as you can’t get manual in the comp package
does it come
with all
season tires if I want
I need it
Belladonna purple?
Looks beautiful. Best colour imo
Aventurine Red 🙌
Really nice colour. Hides the grill well too haha
im thinking of getting a frozen colour.
As a G80 M3C RWD owner, it just doesn't make sense to get one moving forward. I wanted the AWD but it wasn't out in the USA last June. I love it tho .. for everything but the sound. The exhaust is the one thing lacking for me. So I'll be going back to an 8Y RS3 and enjoy that car a bit more and probably will order an AWD G80 in 2-3 years before they stop production/refresh. Brilliant car tho .. loves the open road .. but it's a bit too much for daily duties TBH. I hope they work on the exhaust noise when they do a facelift.
following back ... I am in a 8Y RS3 right now, about 3 weeks in and it's amazing, but do have an M3 Xdrive in Voodoo Blue on order ... I'll try to do both at the same time but we'll see if the wife will allow such a thing.
Did he say "balls out"? That's a great expression!
😂
Can’t wait for my Xdrive M3 to arrive roll on March 😎
im gonna order one in march, takes about 4 months to arrive. what colour combo did u get?
@@minigiant8998 ordered a Toronto red with extended black/red carbon seats 1st week of December arrives early feb as wasn’t bothered about it being a (22) Reg as my private plates going straight on there
@@g9lev red is nice, not very common. wish there was a frozen grey i think i would order that.
Great video and agree: the poor saps who bought the RWD version were well and truly mugged.
Maybe…I had no intention of buying one but knew it was coming, so if they had done any research they should’ve known too. Maybe they just didn’t care and wanted an ugly car
Those who bought the RWD would have known it was coming.
todays modern m3 is a heavy sedan that's built to be a daily, for a smaller platform like the 2 series rwd only is needed, not only for weight savings and distribution but rwd only teaches you how to handle the car and not be overconfident.
Is it better than a 992.
Don’t bother with the RWD? It’s not just about launching! Plus, we get the manual here in the US. That’s my choice.
Gotta get the manual.
A lot of people are getting rid of the M3 comp(with ultra low miles) for the the xdrive versions...
Nearly 10 mins referring to the longitudinal grip levels :) What about steering feel, brake feel, axle response, lateral grip etc, to say nothing about the fact you're the only reviewer who hasn't banged on about the seats or the front styling... :) cheers, make a nice change.
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Well the hell is in the rear fenders
Man went round a roundabout at 30 in the dry claiming the RWD car would be drifting 😂
My Giulia Q drifts when I want to.
Now just imagine the Xdrive M3 touring 😳😳!! How many cars do you have in one now?
Definitely would of ordered a touring if it was available
Only thing that sucks about the m3 is that they didnt upgrade the tech from the original 3 series that came out in like what? 2017? being 2020 when it came out, it should have had an updated tech internally... Like right now the 3 series will have face lift coming with new screens, the M3 should have just came with those new features.
This car will beat any supercar point to point on UK roads
if you don’t go track. Drifting or do stupid thing RWD is better cos it’s cheap to buy and run maintain. this gen rwd is very Stable so not need to worry too much. I have a São Paulo yellow M4. RWD :)
i was thinking of getting the yellow but it's very bright. any downsides to the colour?
@@minigiant8998 too much attention. quite easy to get dusty. other than that i think its the best colour!
RWD car is still amazing. I would prefer rwd. Sure, you will not launch it as fast as xdrive but you have more fun overall. Less weight, less complexity. And no, xdrive in rwd is not the same. You have to turn off safety systems in xdrive to use rwd. MDM is off. It's no fun, it's asking for trouble. Rwd is still purist choice.
Plus it's manual
@@eclipsez0r no it is not.
What difference does RWD make if you need stability control? Seems pointless, unless you just want to tell yourself you're driving a RWD. You can still use the 10-stage traction control with the xDrive RWD, which makes a lot more sense.
Since you're citing weight, you'd also get the ceramic brakes, CF seats and CF exterior pack? And MDM is not DSC off. DSC is still on, it just had a wider threshold before interfering. On the 10 stage M Drivers Package, MDM is 8 out of 10 (DSC fully on)
@@Daniel189HLL OK the x drive comes in manual according to you
The all-wheel drive variant is not offered with a 6-speed manual transmission?
Uk cars are all auto
@@StefABtv rip
No, because all UK cars are comps and comps only have auto due to having a lot of power for a manual. Anyone tuning these things will need plenty of spare cash for new clutches.
@@Daniel189HLL Because people are buying autos like grandma's who shouldn't even be driving 🤣
Hi Stef I am going to buy very soon bmw m4 xdrive from chris
Great car!
Is blind spot monitor standard in xDrive?
Not sure if I’m honest
Nah ... I'm a purist and prefer the un-corrupted steering of the RWD. The traction is so good it makes the AWD almost pointless save for the very worst of weather. Even then you've got to lug around the extra weight and the drive losses. Lucky we're not all the same :)
Xdrive makes it usable
Can somebody tell me the colour please
is this 2022 or 2021 M3
I'm gonna sound like a girl here but... that colour 😍
As i said on Joe's review, why would you bother with the pure RWD version when at the touch a botton and RWD or Xdrive....no brainer
Because automatic cars are for my grandmother
@@eclipsez0r Wtf has that got to do with anything? If we're going to be talking about the gearbox then they pretty much have to be auto because a manual wouldn't last long before it burnt out or exploded! Well that's what BMW said. 🤔
@@Daniel189HLL Stop buying autos then I don't buy them
@@eclipsez0r Just say you're broke it's fine
@@azaboy2 I actually have a g80 m3 sorry that you're jealous now
I cant imagine driving an m3 thats not manual. And manual comes with the rwd only
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Soon
Is the colour of this car Aventurine red?
Yep
@@StefABtv Cheers for that. Will probably get this colour as have put in an order but have a little time to decide exact spec. I see some videos of this colour where it appears brown in appearance, see link below, do you ever get that in real life? ruclips.net/video/YO50Ip9Iky8/видео.html
Is it the tires or the xdrive holding you to the road?
Probably a bit of both
@@StefABtv See, the thing I don't like is knowing when the XDrive kicks in. The xdrive could have never kicked in?
I believe if you put the xdrive in rwd the traction control is completely off, which then defeats its purpose. For the winter you get a good set of snow tires on and the rwd will be fun to drive! So in short I disagree with your analysis.
Why get the rwd when the Awd can become rwd
Lmao. He pushed his head back into the seat like he was in a space ship. Hahaha. Ease up mate.
A very nice Audi
You got me. I loved my RS3 but BMW does better with tech. It pains me to say it but they're also doing better on the interior too.
Me watching this video knowing I’ll never afford one 😂🤦🏾
M3 Comp xdrive if you go on the track...if you only drive as daily and not on the track get m340 xdrive that's all you'll need on the road and save money 😎
Most anyone who buys a M car or an RS or an AMG would probably pretty openly tell you it's not about need. It absolutely is excess and if you're going for excess, you might as well buy what you really want.
@@nfavor Yes indeed want and need are two different things in all aspects of life not just cars. My comment is basically regarding the small margins between the two cars. 440 x drive will do 0 to 62 in 4 seconds and 20 grand cheaper than m3 comp xdrive. My comment is more of a swipe at car manufacturers pricing not car owners that want the excess.
@@nfavor If youre going for excess then get an 8 series..
Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio or the new BMW M3 G80 X Drive 🧐
I long for the days of lighter, RWD, vehicles again.
People are so obsessed with 0-60 times, it's embarrassing, racing from one set of traffic lights to the next, must get there first yawn ...........
I drive my RWD car in heavy rain, snow, whatever, I have never been stuck, and I have never been so bothered about 'extracting every ounce of performance in bad weather' as you seem to be.
In fact, I'm glad it struggles for traction and slides about, because you know what, it's FUN.
The RWD 'mode' in this is not really RWD is it, and if (as you say) you cannot take corners in a RWD version like you can in this xDrive version, what you really mean is, you haven't got the driving skill to take corners in a RWD car like you can in this. And that for me is the whole point. You love AWD and you're glowing in this because it's xDrive, it doesn't make it better though.
This is the thing. You are absolutely right! I enjoy corners in cold wet weather with my 2WD Giulia Q. It's really cool when the real diff helps you out in the corners. Moreover 50kg is a lot to pay specifically at the front. AWD is for the weak! 😃
@@lpeter6773 It's horses for courses L Peter, I guess.
I just get frustrated when every glowing review of the latest Audi with haldex/quattro, or BMW with Xdrive, or Merc with 4matic, etc etc gets automatically labelled as 'better' by reviewers.
It's not better, it's just different.
0-60 times are stupid these days, nobody really needs to go to 60 faster than 5 seconds lets be honest, yet every 10th quicker in the latest version over the old version of Audi/BMW/Merc/VW is somehow seen as a must have.
Maybe there is an unseen force at large, who want to take every driving ability away from the actual driver, and place it in the hands of technology, autonomous braking, lane assist, radar guided cruise control, etc etc, because todays drivers are obviously far too busy making business calls from their cars to concentrate on the traffic, and it's just another step towards driverless cars which the governments would really love to see. That way they can control every aspect of our movement, and collect more data about where we go to/from, to sell us more crap we don't need !
Unfortunately it's still an auto box. Test drove the 2wd, fast but felt like a barge and couldn't get on with the ZF auto...
I had the F80, sure enough, the DCT was unbelievable when you're giving it the beans.... BUT, it was a nightmare around town and in lower gears. It would Kangaroo out of junctions, too harsh even in the lowest gear change settings.
The ZF is much better for daily use, which suits me. Because at the end of the day, what is a 4 door saloon gonna be used for?
Agreed, it is most likely the reason why I'll never have the new M3 / M4. Lost all sensation from the gear change, and for me - the biggest bugbear versus my M2C. I'll be intrigued to see the new M2 Comp to be honest.
@@jamesmksmith this +1 🙏🏼
@@AutoVidzzz agreed, better for daily use but it wears the M badge....
@@Alexander-fu1zd but it's a 4 door saloon too!! 😭
A W E Some.
This car is a beast. But I reckon my next car will be an rs3 saloon. Not far off in terms of real-world performance, but 25 grand less for the entry model. That's a huge difference
I had a 2019 before getting a M2 Comp and now the M4 Comp xDrive. The twin turbo's on either of the BMW's make the engine rev so quickly that it's al,ost unreal vs the RS3. I'm not saying the RS3 is a slow car. It's stupid fast, especially for the price but the super quick revs in the BMW are magic.
Exactly, I can´t be bothered with UNNECESSARY AWD
Voco Oxford 😊
Hi Stef 👍👍
Hey 🙌🙌🙌
It’s Ron burgundy
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@@StefABtv lol
Anyone else bothered that youtubers compare manufacturer's 0-62mph and youtuber's 0-60mph with rolling start?
3.1 was done at standing start with a race box. Check joes video on it
@@StefABtv ruclips.net/video/EB9jenxEBtE/видео.html at 3.49 he basically explains everything.
I know this is a pipe dream, but if Bmw made this one in manual, they just might tear down Audi. I will no longer go Audi because I need 3 pedals. I will be getting the power reduced rwd version simply because I refuse to drive automatic. I don’t care what anyone says, it’s just not as fun. People always bring up traffic as an excuse to go automatic but there has never been a moment where I wished I was not driving stick because I’m stuck in traffic.
First video I've seen from you. I think your reviewing skills need to improve mate, you've gone on about how it's quick etc, but you've not spoken about anything else. How it really drives, build quality, styling, how it drives on the road, that kinda thing...
To be fair I’ve done a full review of the G80 m3 comp covering all of that. All the features are the same except the XDRIVE platform so I focused on that but thanks for the feedback
How about next time you actually show the vehicle
Sorry but awd is for amateurs. I drive a car that has no wheel drive and gear shift that requires both hands to change.
Now that's a proper driver's car!
But the manual only comes in rwd so don't bother with the x drive
No manual for the UK. Plus the AWD auto is miles better.
@@TrueFilter Auto sucks boring as shit sorry
@@eclipsez0r how are insanely fast cars boring? Do you like cars or gear sticks?
@@TrueFilter you know the manual pulls much longer in each gear. I fall asleep in automatic cars. Have you ever driven a manual car? Are you licensed for one?
@@eclipsez0r is this a yank trying to talk cars now. Pretty much everyone in Europe grew up on manuals. I owned about 6-7 different ones and a lot of autos since. Torque converters, dual clutch. They are simply better.
Shame it comes in auto only.