The REAL way to play Damage, Inc by Metallica on guitar! Weekend Wankshop lesson 135
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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hey kids! on weekend wankshop 135, uncle ben eller here is going to show you the REAL way to play Damage, Inc by Metallica, from their classic Master of Puppets album! This riff has been misplayed and abused for decades now. The official tab book is WRONG, as are all the tabs i have ever seen online! This is mainly concerning the double stop parts of the riff played on the A and D strings; everyone i see playing these parts has them as double stop slides, and that is simply NOT how its played. I'll even back it up with some live concert video proof!
This is one of my favorite Metallica tunes from the album, so hopefully you'll get a kick out of playing it 100% accurately now. Good luck!
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a little bit of you dies when you find out you've been wrong for years...
guitardavepdx I never realized how simplified it was till I saw this....the way I was playing didn't seem to out of character though. You're absolutely right though......it's weird
LOL right?
never feel bad because you were playing something wrong, be happy that you've learn how to play it right :D
You're right, Jack, but it doesn't mean it's weird to realize you have indeed been playing that riff wrong...
But then another bit of you is born.
You've done justice to it) Thanks!
Andriy Vasylenko ha! Found you on another channel 😂👏🏻🎸
Andriy Vasylenko hi friend!
Hi frrnnnnd!
Haha love your channel bro!
You rock!
thanks my man! Check out some of the recent Megadeth stuff i've done if you dig their stuff too!
Hi frrrrrriend
I never get tired of playing James's rhythm parts. My right hand chops are on point because of him (and other things)
Awesome lesson my man
And other things? Like wanking?
Rob Jarrett and I always get tired when I play his riffs (sorry, I had to make this joke)
And *other* things. The fapping.
Between Papa Het and Dino Cazares riffs, you're sorted for rhythm playing 🤘
Lmao
Interesting. Thanks Ben.
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Hi daddy soup
Great stuff. You can also see Kirk play it the right way in the String-theory video from ernie ball.
Indeed and a nice HD clip too
Thank you Ben!
It's actually cool to have a reasons to relearn such a great riff!
I've never actually played this riff wrong, because I suck major ass on the guitar and can only play Seek and Destroy without the solo, so there... You are wrong! :D
Pedro de Almeida same man.
Pedro de Almeida the solo is too fast for me lmao
derherberter That's the easiest my friend. Start of slow. It's moving power chords around really.
For whom the bell tolls is easier than the intro to nothing else matters
I started with Seek and Destroy also! That was my first song I learned on guitar.
Any tips on playing the bridge section riff? That one always trips me up!
Just play it.
Yeah, I was hoping for that one when I started the video. This fucker riff always mess with my mind and fingers.
Mark Keisler
For me, when I first learned it I just went fully raw at it. The riff is obviously mainly hard on the picking hand. I downpicked all single notes and the e string and only alternate picked the triplets. Start off slowly like always. Just work on the repetition of the riff over and over again. It's one of my favorite riffs to play and once you get the rhythm you will never lose it. Last tip is to make sure, and this is essential in efficient rhythm guitar, that while you are slowly speeding up the riff your picking arm is loose and mostly still and that your wrist is doing most if not all of the work. I didn't take my time when I learned it so when I play the song and get to that part, my arm often is fatigued and stiffens up, making the riff harder to play and probably dealing some damage to my arm. Oh yeah. Make sure you are warmed up when you play the riff at speed.
Thank you for all the hard work brother! Been a big fan for along time. Keep kicking ass!
That fucking right arm!
What about it?
It's the Fapping hand! Years of practice gets you at this level
Guts Puck Dont think so, I've been playing guitar for like 2 years and I can play that fast
Jar Jar Irons never stop practicing. Just keep playing man everyday.
Jason Doucette Yeah thats what I do, sometimes when I stop playing I kinda lose that picking speed lol
Damn I have been playing it wrong,
Thanks Uncle Ben!
damn, i was so ready to hear "lets try this one at step-kirk speed"
Thanks for that, man! I've always had a feeling that "this can't be right", but didn't bother to put in all the work, like you did! This makes so much more sense now! Totally feels like something James Hetfield would write!
I see many of his riffs as a work of art and I never grow tired of perfecting them and playing them.
Fackkkk yahhhhh. This will definitely get me chicks!! ☝🏻
Murked By MarX playing music for chicks is dumb af
Jodoin Maxime
or dudes.... whatever floats your boat bro.
Jodoin Maxime Lemmy did it for the chicks. Worked out for him.
@@Murkedbymarx You fucking destroyed him
Please do a Wankshop lesson for the Middle 8 / Bridge riff. Possibly the most difficult 'tallica riff...!
Uncle Ben you are my savior, I couldn't figure this out for years thanks man!
Whats the tempo?
Stepdad speed?
190 BPM
YES!!! THERE'S MUCH CONTENTION OVER THIS RIFF.... I COULDN'T ASK FOR A BETTER DEMONSTRATION/ LESSON... PLAYED IT SINCE IT'S RELEASE AND YOU ARE SPOT ON...🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🇦🇺🦘🏴☠️
Saving the world one riff at a time
Even better video evidence Ben: Cliff em all. James and Kirk side-by-side pulling off the same exact riff. It's clear as day. No slides. Then, re-listening to original riff, it's all about the root. If that root doesn't move, it's conclusive. Headed to listen now...
Root. Doesn't. Move. Great ear. I'd love to see James give lessons on the intricacies of the riffs. They do mix up some things here and there, but for the most part, James plays exactly what he recorded. I've always seen and thus believed that integrity to what was written seemed to be of utmost importance, and is probably what is most naturally comfortable to him. What James was writing/playing at 19-25 is just mind-blowing to me.
Awesome! to be honest I have learnt playing it "correct" way from Live videos :D but you made it "more" clear to me :D
I can do the first 16 fine but I'm have trouble pulling off the 14. I'll either land 12 or 16. Any advise? On paper it look like the 3rd 7/8 is the start of the next bar correct?
Uncle Ben, could you show us the break down part to Mary Jane by Megadeth after the great line...
"If I know I'm going crazy, I must not be insane" please?
Its such a killer riff and all the tabs I have seen play it different and they don't sound quite right to the record.
Thanks.
Great thing about Metallica is we have a plethora of live videos both old and new to study. I was experimenting with some of the power chord variations last night and never could figure out this one. I definitely hear the heavy palm muting on the low E string at the A note which helps bring out the rest of the chord. There's probably some name for that scale I don't know yet, not purely pentatonic but maybe pentatonic with an added note there on 8th fret of the D string (F?) Is definitely an embellished blues scale. Maybe you can explain more, or I'm over thinking as usual. Well, off to practice all night at step dad speed. Thanks for the lesson!
Any chance you can upload a video of the middle fast part that kicks in at 3:15 of the song?
I learned it as "000000( you get it) and then on the A and D string you go from 7th fret from both strings to 8th fret on both strings" I know its like 1 fret off but does it still work? it sounds just a bit the same to me
great vid
please do a vid on blackened. specifically the incorrect way people play the turn around in verse and intro sections.
keep em coming
Randall Calhoun already have!!! Dig or search and you’ll find it ;)
@@BenEller found it.
i have always thought the last triplet sounded odd as: f chord (c,c,f).... sounds lower to me. maybe wrong but could it be Bb, Bb, F?
havent been able to see clearly how its played live but always sounded lower. could just be my ears.
or possibly a chromatic g,f#, f?
sorry should have said f#,f#,f
Randall Calhoun you talking about the main riff tail?
The end of the video is why I've given up using tabs since 2014/15. The tabs are always made by people who just can't the difference between what they play and what's being played and THEY NEVER DO RESEARCH BY WATCHING LIVE PERFORMANCES.
I tried to learn "Give It All" by Rise Against and the Ultimate Guitar tabs were just so bad that I just broke out my guitar and played the fingerings I saw them use in the video of a live performance. It took some time but afterward, I was one of a very few people who could play that song correctly.
I always try to get the rough idea by listening to the song, matching pitches, find the rough key, and iron out weird parts with videos of playthroughs or slowing down the track via RUclips's handy new playback speed feature.
Thanks for that! I've had the old tab book for years and could never make it sound right.Thanks Uncle Ben!
Thank you Ucle Ben. I knew something wasn''t sounding right, but I just couldn't pin point it.
Hi there, very nice demo! What about the palm muted/ending with vibrato lick of Mop, I mean the little section at 1:27/1:28 just before James sings:" Come crawling faster", then at 1:32 before "Obey your master". I've seen it played on youtube in many ways, some near the correct manner, other far away.
Even Metallica changed the way of playing it during years, at least James ( now live he uses to trill the last note/s instead of playng a vibrato one). I'd like your opinion and a quick lesson if possible. Thanx in advance! Cheers
Very awesome. I'd love to see a video on Fight Fire With Fire. That part after the main riff is played the first time is something that also seems to be tabbed out 100 different ways and none of them seem 100% correct.
This makes sense, like in a way, the power chords are being 'damaged' by moving just one note up!
I remember the old Cherry Hill Easy Rhythm guitar books. I bought the one for Master of Puppets, when I was first starting out. Damage Inc. had that slide section in it. Glad to see a simpler solution to bring it on point.
Finally, somebody has spoken about that. Most of youtube covers that I've seen are wrong, there's only one dude that I've seen playing this riff correctly, and I know that cause I watched tons of videos of Metallica playing this song live.
Great video dude, and great rhythm hand.
Just looking at some tabs and relearning these old classics on bass and got to the verse of damage Inc and went oh wow that's nothing like I always played it.... So straight to uncle Ben for confirmation!!! 🤘
thank you. were trying to play this song on rocksmith andi knew it didnt sound right! ty so much man.
Dude!! Fellow guitar player and huge Metallica fan! I feel like you are one of the few people who can actually here how certain riffs are ACTUALLY played. Asking for help from you!!! Give the chorus riff in Don’t Tread on me a listen sometime. Can’t figure it out to save my life! Would love to see you break it down! Thanks and keep jamming!
I saw Kirk play the riff the right way in a tuning room video...
I KNEW I WASN'T CRAZY!
I agree with everything apart from the bit on G. After listening to you do the pyramid bit at 5:38, it just does't sound right. I believe it is done by bringing down the A string as well as the D, so it's like the opening 2 notes of how you play Leper Messiah. This, to me sounds correct.
Love the video, the pinky note change definitely adds the chaotic and dissonant sound that is missing from the riff in the official tab book and all other transcriptions that copied it.
I definitely had it wrong. Thanks, glad you took the time to figure that out.
THANK YOU! Confirmed something I knew was wrong years ago when I would jam this song. The video does not lie but most importantly the ear confirms you are correct!
I'm not really a guitar player, but I like learning some parts to Metallica songs on piano for fun. I know online tablature is often wrong, so I take the time to analyze the notes myself. I've even looked at live performances to see how they play songs, and I'm glad to see someone else who does the same.
thanks a lot for your teachings, you are the best uncle of the world .
finally someone teaches it right. none of my friends believe me, i'm playing it like that since i learned that song. same thing with dyers eve
thanks for that. I bought the official tab book of this a album way back in 1986 and have been playing that riff wrong for 31 years. It always sounded slightly off and now I know why. Any chance of doing one for Kreator's track Betrayed? I've never seen a tab that was even close and the verse riff is blindingly fast. Thanks again, I'm really enjoying your vids.
So I'm a beginning guitar player and I'm a bit confused on what to actually learn. I've learned the Sandman and Sanitarium on my own from reading tabs, but people tell me I need to learn chords and stuff related to music theory (which has me confused). I want to know what to know what is actually important to learn to play guitar. Thanks!
The bass tabs available are wrong here as well. After the slide down to F#, there's a sequence of three notes G-C#-D repeated three times before returning back to low E (or at the end, the last D is replaced by B for the start of the concluding power chords).
The published tabs (and the RUclips bass covers) all have G-F#-E x3 instead, which is just mirroring what your pinky is doing in that part. But if you listen carefully to the bass on the album track (there's an Enhanced Bass version on RUclips), Cliff didn't actually do that!
By way of evidence of the above, check out Cliff's finger placement on the frets at 4m45s in the following live video:
ruclips.net/video/ppZIRc5DBac/видео.html
i knew something sounded off for all the years ive been playing it! it feels so good to hear it correctly
Thanks this helped a lot ive been playing it wrong
Wow! I actually had this figured out correctly by ear then... with that awkward chord shaping too 😊
Subscribed! Love it when people play things right! (: I watch Metallica live (and other bands) and do the same thing. Very cool. Good job and keep the vids coming.
Another telltale is the sound of that tritone in the first section of the riff. There is a clear dissonance as opposed to the clear sound of a double stop
perfect video, thank you so much for your time !
Could you also look into the clean riff of The Unforgiven II? There are many tabs for it, but something just doesn't really sound right for the B and high E.
Thank you! I've been wondering about this for years.
Metallica has been known to cheat live on a lot of riffs.
Crimson Ghost this sounds exactly like on the album. this isn't cheating.
Dave Drummer It is exactly how it was played on the album. I was just stating that just because Metallica played something live doesn't mean that is how it was on the album.
Crimson Ghost Like when Kirk kicks on very heavy wah live to cover up his sloppy solos. Solos he butchers live almost all the time or doesn't play at all. I mean I get it playing a live show gets tiring I've done them but still you should have your own music memorized to the point that it just happens no need to think about it.
Yes, he's just skipping that epic tom fill in one. What a shame.
Not that i really give a shit i'm just curious to see if you got any evidence to back up that they cheat out on their riffs? seeing as it's innocent until proven guilty and all that
Cool! Now someone must teach Lars how to play the thing correctly on drums.
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You can see it SUPER clearly in Kirk's Guitar Center promo. It's more obvious there than in these examples, if anyone's still doubting.
Problem is there’s plenty of video of them playing the riff completely different, they parmute the root note then do a full power chord slide from 6a 8d to 5a 7d.
Don’t believe me, do exactly what Ben did, look at the live footage. And if u have the stems u can clearly here a guitar doing that, and a guitar doing what Ben is doing, and a guitar doing the double stop slides. That’s why people get so confused about so many Metallica riffs, because there’s like five guitars layered all playing the riff slightly different. Worked out pretty well for getting a sound people could never quite nail for some reason.
Mountain view 89 (full show) great camera shot of hetfield playing it.
TheShepster80 the flanger on that show kind of ruins it
I guess it didn’t sound like that at the time, I guess they reworked the audio. But still great shots of hetfield playing those parts though.
Now that I see you playing it this way, it's so obvious to me. Thanks!
Uncle Ben I love you so much!! You're the coolest!!
Fan-fuckin-tastic! Best instructional guitar riff videos ever! How about doing that dang bridge riff for this song?
Great study, I learned! Thank you
Huge respect for this guy ✊🏼
I can't wait try this riff thx for detective work Ben
Is there any way to find the tabs on your Instagram page posted years ago without rolling for 5 ours?
just search #weekendwankshop135
It sounds sooooo much better played this way! thanks for the video man!!
Thanks Uncle Ben, now I can play one of my favourites the right way!
Isn't it 12 down ups and 4 down picks then 5-7-8 thingies?
I love how he's assuming almost everyone is playing it wrong, and there's me in the corner smirking and "pffftttt I have been playing like that for years"
I appreciate the investigative work.
Great video man. This riff is so fun to play and sounds awesome played right lol. Always annoyed me how different a onenote difference made the riff sound wrong. Also, I’ve notice Kirk and James play the verse riff slightly different between each other live. Kirk will slide down from the A# to the F power chord while James will jump from the A# chord on the root A String 1st fret to the F power chord on the E string. You can see this if you watch the Damage Inc Mountain View 1989 performance closely.
I never knew that chord was in this song.
Real talk bro. Who's your favorite local band you played with back in the day? I know you played around the time TIR and SLS were around.
PS. Followed you from HF to ARC. Always loved your style.
haha thanks a lot!!!! i even played with SLS there for a minute. Gosh.... Arc, Human Fuse, and Vertigo were great. Playing in Vertigo helped me SO MUCH as a musician, and really jump-started my love of playing bass!
Ben Eller I remember you shot the bow in SLS at the electric ballroom. I was like "this dude is unreal" you were ahead of your time for the stuff that was being played man.
Ben Eller Thanks Ben for teaching me this I always thought the tabs where wrong thanks!
Cory Baxter hahaha the classic bow and arrow!!!!
Sometimes they play different live than what they played in the studio.
Hi Ben, great work. May I ask you a quick tutorial ? I'd need something similar regarding a part that I think is always tabbed in a not totally correct way, I'm talking about the lick played on the song Mop by Metallica, the one at 1:27-1:29 just before the singing "Come crawling faster". The short palm muted part ... Tabs around the net or sheets as well shows it wrong in my opinion.
Then I think Metallica too, plays it live differently from the studio version. Thanks in advance!
in the words of Arnold !! come on cohagen give uncle Bennie a moon man!
Thanks man !
The next big riff to discovert is the second riff of fight fire with fire. good luck ;)
Good stuff. It's so important to get left and right hand muting correct to achieve the diads and triads in these riffs. Otherwise they are just mush in a full band mix.
Great video, Ben!
You made that riff cool again Uncle Ben
Ive been playin it the right way even before you where born and before the internet 1986 so THERE
I've been playing damage inc. the right way for so long, and I thought "This sounds weird, let me play like this" and thought the new way I play it was the right, well after watching this, I'm switching back to the old way...
Would it be possible for your next Metallica based lesson to show off One's middle section (The bits after the final "chorus" and before the heavy double bass riff)? I've rarely seen that entire middle chunk played incorrectly in some way either by combining James' and Kirk's parts or not playing the right notes/chords. I'd love to see someone show it off right.
Can't you just play the A part out of open A with your middle finger hammering at 3rd fret G string?
It makes it easier to transition to the 4th fret A string part, just saying.
I'd love to hear battery. The riff after the solo has always sounded a little off to me when I play it. The way this riff is played sounds more similar to how battery should be played.
I always played notes like this, but I still think that the notes in the upper part of the riff are not picked, but hammered-on / pulled-off.
the song in the intro video sounds Devin Townsend-ish
song in the background pls?
how do i string my guitar like you?
Yesssss, I've been playing it right all the time. :')
It helped me Uncle Ben!!!!!
Ia also agree at 200 bpm or more, there is no chace Hetfield is counting out individual 16th notes for the fast riffs. Probably more like you showed!
Kick ass lesson !!
how come you dont play that rg550 7 string you made? i love that guitar, and the video making it was awesome too!
Yea, indeed if you keep believing tabs... ;)
I learned to use my ears (and eyes on the artists) within the first year or two because of misleading tabs.
Similarly with the... is it the 'Dyers Eve' riff... Where people kept (ironically) HEARING it like 0-1-0-1 or whatever, but it was just a side-effect of picking where you hear the pitch shift.
Though, I have to admit I did play 'Damage, Inc.' wrong for the longest time because I didn't UNDERSTAND what was happening. I heard this power-chord going "wonky" and I couldn't wrap my brain around it, and it's also hard as an earlier musician to separate the notes, especially on older recordings and with distorted guitars.
Also; I always found the riff to be like a variation on the 'Battery'-riff. - It's obvious that James Hetfield probably found a little technique he thought was cool and applied throughout songs around the same time. - That's usually what happens, especially when you're still young. - Just like a lot of 'Kill 'Em All' is basically very same-ish because it was written by a bunch of kids starting out. Impressive and innovative, but technically limited.
the studio version is 2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3 right?
No, that's what I'm talking about. - It's all the same note. - But every "second" note goes slightly out of pitch making people think that it shifts an entire half step when they listen too closely.
It's really not thát drastic and I don't think they would bother to play it that way. They're not Iron Maiden.
It's just straightforward one-note shredding like in the style of all their other Thrash-type songs.