I've had my cupra born v3 for 4 months I mainly use Tesco free charge, as I don't do many miles a day. Went to Wales from Bolton to pwllehi 140 miles no problem with 30 percent battery left, chargef at caravan park cost 13.20 to top up.100 %
I have the Formentor v1. Basic! But the sound system!!!!!!!!!! Best I've ever had. The bass. Oh my days. So the fact this doesn't have a good sound system has me a bit worried!
Great video. I'm due to get my 58kwh born next week as a company car. Been waiting since May last year so its been a frustrating wait. 11:19 Jacks hatch, been past that road many times so you must be pretty local to me!
Car still hasn't arrived. Had issues with the keys and then on delivery day the dash displayed drivetrain failure. Would have cancelled it by now if I could but would incur penalties
Frustrated waiting . Trust me you will be frustrated waiting to return it. It's such a pile of crap. I've had mine for two long years. Got another 2 dread full years and epic winters freezing in the car because you can't use the heaters as it drains 60% range even if you use the heater for 20 % of the discharge cycle . Just using the demister at 21 degrees Celsius when absolutely necessary drains 40% of the battery on a discharge cycle from 80% to 30%. Over priced milk float. It's the biggest car mistake I've made. Tried to return it to the dealer. They said it's lost £15k in 15 months so we would have to pay them 9k to return it.
Nice review loved it. Looks like a really nice car but its hugely overpriced. Its not going to save you money in anyway. Especially if you are going to keep it for three years thats going to cost you a ton. The cost of electric also means you wont save. You would have to do 80, thousand miles to start seeing some cost back. Also yeaj if you dont have home charging they are a terrible idea. Also hate to be that guy but its pronounced eshh eh lons ! Great review!
Good review, think that charger scammed you, started on 15% and finished on 80% so my math says that’s 37.7 kWh you put in at 50 pkwh isn’t that £18.85 not £27. Sorry if I’ve missed something obvious new to EVs and thinking about swapping my Golf for a Born, just looking into it all currently. Ps ignore all that you must have the bigger battery one, I missed that 🤦
Spot on with the calculations. I did the calculations myself and you're right. Also in winter you get less than 2 Miles per kw in this car so thats like 25p per mile which is way too expensive compared to even a petrol maserati
It is difficult to know whether or not to have a home charger. On the one hand, the mileage range is very poor and will be needing to charge a lot. On the other, it doesn’t charge properly overnight on low-cost electricity as it has a random battery safe mode which kicks in and about 70-80% of the time it charges at half the normal 7 kWh. I got rid of mine.
Please tell me how you managed to get rid of the car. I've had mine for two years out of the 4 year prison sentence. How can I free myself of this dungeon sentence . It's giving me a mental breakdown
@@gesp5151 Hi Gesp, how are you claiming the shortfall? If you don't mind me asking. I'm on a PCP . Paid 500 Deposit but apparently 400 of that went towards the gap insurance I found out on the day I picked up the car brand new. They're crooks, confused me on the invoice . Paying 560 a month for 48 months then bubble payment of 17k if I wana keep the trash which I don't. Thanks in advance for any advice . Basically 38.6k price for the car and 7k interest on top over 4 years.
@@gesp5151 Hi Gesp, I typed a long reply to you two nights ago but for some reason it doesn't show up here. I'm on a 4 year PCP, 2 years gone, £560 a month. Complete rip off. I've been arguing with them within the first 3 months of getting the car when I realized that the range they advertised is completely rubbish. Basically we bought it end of June 2022, we drove it for 2 weeks then went abroad on holiday. When we returned in September, during school run , I noticed switching on the demister, the range goes from 220 down to 87 miles. If I turn on the heater , it's even less. When we spoke to them they said this is expected. But this was not mentioned when they sold us the car. On a typical morning on a two hour school run and commute of 16 miles in London traffic, even if I turn on the demister a total of 15 minutes, I'm getting average 2.5 miles a kwh and even less in winter if I turn on the heater. Last two winters my kids and I have frozen in the car wearing 3 layers of clothes because turning on the heater, I don't even get 1.4 miles a kwh. multiply that by 58 kw battery will give you the range. If you go on their website, they show you drive range of this car at various outside temperatures. At zero degrees temperature it shows 231 miles. I don't get that even in summer even if I don't turn on the air con. Air con also drains it by 40%. I very very rarely use the air con. Would rather have windows open to save energy. Ive only every driven this on the motorway 6 times. Leaving home says 220 mile range but empty after 120 miles if driven at 70mph. If driven at 60mph it can do 160 miles. That's in summer with air con off and windows open only by 2 cm to let in air. I wouldn't dare go on the motorway in winter. By the way the miles per kwh the screen shows is a lie. To work out the real miles per kwh one needs to calculate like this: This drive cycle, 30% used. 58 times 0.3 will give you the number of kwh consumed 17.4. Then divide the current cycle mileage driven by the kwh consumed. For example 40 miles divide by 17.4 kw = 2.29 miles per kwh Then 2.29 *58= 133 miles on a full 100% charge. I know for people who are recharging at home for 7p per kwh are praising this car because it costs pennies but if you're dependent on street parking at 70p per kwh that's £42 approximately. If that gives you 133 mile range 5 months of the year , that's way worse than a gas guzzling petrol car considering, one can't even use the heater in winter without getting a heart attack from the recharging bill. It has been a complete mis-selling. Please advise how to return this car to the crooked dealer who has been sending us pillar to post between manufacturer, VW finance and the dealer. By the way, the build quality is really rubbish. You get a creaking noise from the dashboard when turning left or right. A permanent glare of the gleaming dashboard on the screen which is affecting my eye sight and the car randomly hits the break when there is nothing in front because a couple of seconds a go there was a car or cyclist in front. The car computer is slow that it has a lag. Given me multiple whiplashes. Over priced milk float that's dangerous to drive. Twice I've had near misses from a motorbike and a moped from behind because the car abruptly hit the brake. Also it hit the brake when half way out of a petrol station. Car coming from the right had to emergency brake as he didn't know why we would suddenly stop in the middle of the road for no reason. Many other infotainment issues I won't even bother mentioning here. Thanks in advance for any advice.
The stated performance is 5-80% in 35 minutes on a 58(62) battery. So 75% of 58 is 43.5 so in 35 minutes it needs to average 75kwh over that range. The best I’ve ever achieved was 72 on ionity once - all this has been scheduled out to Listers and VWs solicitors in detail and none of my figures have ever been challenged at all! Not anything. Not one charge, one number: nothing. It simply doesn’t perform ever at that stated level. In contrast my BMW i4 just hits the numbers ever single time
On octopus go on a home wall box, it costs £2.22 to add 29kw in the 4 hour window. Hardly a scam mate, I'd much rather pay that than £75 quid for a tank of fuel. 🤣
@@streetbeefy Not talking about home charging is he though, would love one my ? would as a home owner can I hang a cable over my fence to charge it as no off road parking but an alley way to council garages with enough room to charge without people tripping over/ cars running over??? is that legal... ? 2 RWD had enough of BMW's in the snow what's a RWD elec car on 20's like. And always had HK/Burmeister in my BMW and my Merc's do you have the Beats in yours?.
@@EXSKIN no he isn't talking about home charging. I was. Paying 50p/kwh is hardly a SCAM though is it? At current prices you would have to pay around 66p per kwh to be roughly the same as a petrol car that averages about 40mpg. If you think it's alright to pay £1.65 -£1.90 per litre on petrol or diesel, what's the issue? If people don't like EV's, they don't have to buy one do they?
Surprise motherf... RiP Doakes. Joking aside I have the same dilemma. Our company is offering employees a scheme called Salary sacrifice, which allows us to lease an electric car for very reasonable monthly payments and no deposit. My problem is that I live in a flat with nowhere to install a charger.
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I didnt want the video to end! Was a good real world review!! And funny!
Haha thanks dude!
I've had my cupra born v3 for 4 months I mainly use Tesco free charge, as I don't do many miles a day. Went to Wales from Bolton to pwllehi 140 miles no problem with 30 percent battery left, chargef at caravan park cost 13.20 to top up.100 %
Oh Lavvlly!
Thanks Tim full of pertinent info, no waffle and some humour 👌👌
Nice one Tim 👏💪
Thanks mate 🙏
Thanks for this. Getting my Cupra Born company car in December. Good to see a real review. No home charging so a little anxious tbh.
You’ll be fine mate, just keep it above 25% where possible 💪🏽
Great real-world perspective of living with the EV Tim 👊 13:42 your honesty there was funny 😂
Haha facts! He loves me though so I think I’m safe 😆
I have the Formentor v1. Basic! But the sound system!!!!!!!!!! Best I've ever had. The bass. Oh my days. So the fact this doesn't have a good sound system has me a bit worried!
Great video. I'm due to get my 58kwh born next week as a company car. Been waiting since May last year so its been a frustrating wait. 11:19 Jacks hatch, been past that road many times so you must be pretty local to me!
How are you finding it
Car still hasn't arrived. Had issues with the keys and then on delivery day the dash displayed drivetrain failure. Would have cancelled it by now if I could but would incur penalties
Ah noooo!!!
Frustrated waiting . Trust me you will be frustrated waiting to return it. It's such a pile of crap. I've had mine for two long years. Got another 2 dread full years and epic winters freezing in the car because you can't use the heaters as it drains 60% range even if you use the heater for 20 % of the discharge cycle . Just using the demister at 21 degrees Celsius when absolutely necessary drains 40% of the battery on a discharge cycle from 80% to 30%.
Over priced milk float. It's the biggest car mistake I've made.
Tried to return it to the dealer. They said it's lost £15k in 15 months so we would have to pay them 9k to return it.
Nice car wonder what the residual value with all the other brands bringing out
Great review. Car looks MEAN in red
Thanks dude! Definitely does!
There is a differential in between driveshafts. Next to reduction gearbox. By the way, there is no engine under the bonnet. Motor is at rear axle.
Nice review loved it.
Looks like a really nice car but its hugely overpriced. Its not going to save you money in anyway. Especially if you are going to keep it for three years thats going to cost you a ton.
The cost of electric also means you wont save. You would have to do 80, thousand miles to start seeing some cost back.
Also yeaj if you dont have home charging they are a terrible idea.
Also hate to be that guy but its pronounced eshh eh lons !
Great review!
65% battery charged for £27 at a service station isn’t bad at all considering petrol prices are still about £40 for the same amount
100% that was an expensive charger too!
Tim is the Beats sound system HK/Burmeister quality of my BM's and Merc's love a loud system me.
Good review, think that charger scammed you, started on 15% and finished on 80% so my math says that’s 37.7 kWh you put in at 50 pkwh isn’t that £18.85 not £27.
Sorry if I’ve missed something obvious new to EVs and thinking about swapping my Golf for a Born, just looking into it all currently.
Ps ignore all that you must have the bigger battery one, I missed that 🤦
Spot on with the calculations. I did the calculations myself and you're right. Also in winter you get less than 2 Miles per kw in this car so thats like 25p per mile which is way too expensive compared to even a petrol maserati
Long video Tim. Highly specked with vast array of options, but looked like a ton of plastic inside.
Gotta be done, loads of environmental friendly parts!
It is difficult to know whether or not to have a home charger. On the one hand, the mileage range is very poor and will be needing to charge a lot. On the other, it doesn’t charge properly overnight on low-cost electricity as it has a random battery safe mode which kicks in and about 70-80% of the time it charges at half the normal 7 kWh. I got rid of mine.
Thanks for that info yyyaaawwwwnnnnnn
Please tell me how you managed to get rid of the car. I've had mine for two years out of the 4 year prison sentence. How can I free myself of this dungeon sentence . It's giving me a mental breakdown
@@GariAat Are you on finance lease deal? I had paid cash so I sold it back to dealership and I’m claiming the shortfall.
@@gesp5151 Hi Gesp, how are you claiming the shortfall? If you don't mind me asking.
I'm on a PCP . Paid 500 Deposit but apparently 400 of that went towards the gap insurance I found out on the day I picked up the car brand new. They're crooks, confused me on the invoice . Paying 560 a month for 48 months then bubble payment of 17k if I wana keep the trash which I don't.
Thanks in advance for any advice . Basically 38.6k price for the car and 7k interest on top over 4 years.
@@gesp5151 Hi Gesp, I typed a long reply to you two nights ago but for some reason it doesn't show up here.
I'm on a 4 year PCP, 2 years gone, £560 a month. Complete rip off.
I've been arguing with them within the first 3 months of getting the car when I realized that the range they advertised is completely rubbish. Basically we bought it end of June 2022, we drove it for 2 weeks then went abroad on holiday. When we returned in September, during school run , I noticed switching on the demister, the range goes from 220 down to 87 miles. If I turn on the heater , it's even less. When we spoke to them they said this is expected. But this was not mentioned when they sold us the car. On a typical morning on a two hour school run and commute of 16 miles in London traffic, even if I turn on the demister a total of 15 minutes, I'm getting average 2.5 miles a kwh and even less in winter if I turn on the heater. Last two winters my kids and I have frozen in the car wearing 3 layers of clothes because turning on the heater, I don't even get 1.4 miles a kwh. multiply that by 58 kw battery will give you the range.
If you go on their website, they show you drive range of this car at various outside temperatures. At zero degrees temperature it shows 231 miles. I don't get that even in summer even if I don't turn on the air con. Air con also drains it by 40%. I very very rarely use the air con. Would rather have windows open to save energy.
Ive only every driven this on the motorway 6 times. Leaving home says 220 mile range but empty after 120 miles if driven at 70mph. If driven at 60mph it can do 160 miles. That's in summer with air con off and windows open only by 2 cm to let in air. I wouldn't dare go on the motorway in winter.
By the way the miles per kwh the screen shows is a lie.
To work out the real miles per kwh one needs to calculate like this:
This drive cycle, 30% used. 58 times 0.3 will give you the number of kwh consumed 17.4.
Then divide the current cycle mileage driven by the kwh consumed.
For example 40 miles divide by 17.4 kw = 2.29 miles per kwh
Then 2.29 *58= 133 miles on a full 100% charge.
I know for people who are recharging at home for 7p per kwh are praising this car because it costs pennies but if you're dependent on street parking at 70p per kwh that's £42 approximately. If that gives you 133 mile range 5 months of the year , that's way worse than a gas guzzling petrol car considering, one can't even use the heater in winter without getting a heart attack from the recharging bill.
It has been a complete mis-selling.
Please advise how to return this car to the crooked dealer who has been sending us pillar to post between manufacturer, VW finance and the dealer.
By the way, the build quality is really rubbish. You get a creaking noise from the dashboard when turning left or right. A permanent glare of the gleaming dashboard on the screen which is affecting my eye sight and the car randomly hits the break when there is nothing in front because a couple of seconds a go there was a car or cyclist in front. The car computer is slow that it has a lag. Given me multiple whiplashes.
Over priced milk float that's dangerous to drive. Twice I've had near misses from a motorbike and a moped from behind because the car abruptly hit the brake.
Also it hit the brake when half way out of a petrol station. Car coming from the right had to emergency brake as he didn't know why we would suddenly stop in the middle of the road for no reason.
Many other infotainment issues I won't even bother mentioning here.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Only Problem is you can get a Tesla model 3 cheaper and it get better range and it Bigger
New borns shop with 7 speakers and not 5
The stated performance is 5-80% in 35 minutes on a 58(62) battery. So 75% of 58 is 43.5 so in 35 minutes it needs to average 75kwh over that range. The best I’ve ever achieved was 72 on ionity once - all this has been scheduled out to Listers and VWs solicitors in detail and none of my figures have ever been challenged at all! Not anything. Not one charge, one number: nothing. It simply doesn’t perform ever at that stated level. In contrast my BMW i4 just hits the numbers ever single time
50p/kwh. That's almost as expensive as petrol. Scam!
Yeh won’t be going service station again for charging 😆
On octopus go on a home wall box, it costs £2.22 to add 29kw in the 4 hour window. Hardly a scam mate, I'd much rather pay that than £75 quid for a tank of fuel. 🤣
@@streetbeefy Not talking about home charging is he though, would love one my ? would as a home owner can I hang a cable over my fence to charge it as no off road parking but an alley way to council garages with enough room to charge without people tripping over/ cars running over??? is that legal... ? 2 RWD had enough of BMW's in the snow what's a RWD elec car on 20's like.
And always had HK/Burmeister in my BMW and my Merc's do you have the Beats in yours?.
@@EXSKIN no he isn't talking about home charging. I was. Paying 50p/kwh is hardly a SCAM though is it? At current prices you would have to pay around 66p per kwh to be roughly the same as a petrol car that averages about 40mpg. If you think it's alright to pay £1.65 -£1.90 per litre on petrol or diesel, what's the issue? If people don't like EV's, they don't have to buy one do they?
@@streetbeefy well said mate there’s room for petrol and ev.s what’s the problem?
Surprise motherf... RiP Doakes. Joking aside I have the same dilemma. Our company is offering employees a scheme called Salary sacrifice, which allows us to lease an electric car for very reasonable monthly payments and no deposit. My problem is that I live in a flat with nowhere to install a charger.